[UPDATE: 5:02 p.m.] August Complex: Flames Continue to Consume Structures

POSTED 10:55 a.m.

The #AugustComplexNorthZone has forced some of our crews to pull back, account for everyone, and then safely re-engage. We got photos from Information Officer McMillan, who was in Ruth Valley yesterday. These photos share a look at what the day looked like for the firefighters. [Photo from Shasta Trinity National Forest]

According to the Shasta Trinity National Forest Twitter account this morning, “The #AugustComplexNorthZone has forced some of our crews to pull back, account for everyone, and then safely re-engage. We got photos from Information Officer McMillan, who was in Ruth Valley yesterday. These photos share a look at what the day looked like for the firefighters. [Photo from Shasta Trinity National Forest]


NEWER UPDATES at August Complex: Fire, Fear, Frustration


 

The August Complex, now 938,044 acres and only 43% contained, continues to push past firefighters and consume structures near Ruth Lake and into the Hettenshaw Valley. Witnesses in those communities report that more structures were lost in the early morning hours today. Buildings at the Rodeo grounds were lost but Journey’s End was still standing this morning, according to Levi Cope, who lives in Humboldt County, but who is in the area helping local residents.

According to the Alaska Incident Management Team overseeing the North Zone of the August Complex, “A preliminary estimate shows structures and powerline infrastructure have been damaged or destroyed by the powerful wind-driven fire in the past few days.”

Forest Glen and Hwy 36. [Video Credit: Public Information Officer PIO Kale Casey/Alaska Incident Management Team]

They also say, “The fire continued to burn actively through the night with flanking, backing down slopes, and isolated tree torching. Firefighters patrolled and monitored structures on the west side of the fire last night and those efforts continue today…Crews conducted overnight strategic burning operations near Hettenshaw on the west side of the fire and near the junction of Forest Roads 30 and 35 on the east side.” [Read their whole press release here.]

In addition, the Zogg Fire which is moving south from the Igo area towards Hwy 36 is over 40,000 acres and 0% contained and there is already talk about the two fires possibly merging.

Mopping up around structures along Hwy 36 (SR 36) in Forest Glen after the Red Flag weather the last two days. [Video Credit: Public Information Officer PIO Kale Casey/Alaska Incident Management Team]

UPDATE: 5:02 p.m.:

Virtual meeting covering the west side of the August Complex tomorrow at 7 p.m.

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The Images:

The passenger view driving into Forest Glen yesterday. [Video Credit: Public Information Officer PIO Kale Casey/Alaska Incident Management Team]

Many of the lakeside cabins on the south end of Ruth Lake burned, according to Levi Cope who took this and the next two videos. He described hearing, “Crazy loud explosions of propane tanks blowing up, bomb style.”

The #AugustComplexNorthZone has forced some of our crews to pull back, account for everyone, and then safely re-engage. We got photos from Information Officer McMillan, who was in Ruth Valley yesterday. These photos share a look at what the day looked like for the firefighters. [Photo from Shasta Trinity National Forest]

[Photo from Shasta Trinity National Forest]

The #AugustComplexNorthZone has forced some of our crews to pull back, account for everyone, and then safely re-engage. We got photos from Information Officer McMillan, who was in Ruth Valley yesterday. These photos share a look at what the day looked like for the firefighters. [Photo from Shasta Trinity National Forest]

[Photo from Shasta Trinity National Forest]

The #AugustComplexNorthZone has forced some of our crews to pull back, account for everyone, and then safely re-engage. We got photos from Information Officer McMillan, who was in Ruth Valley yesterday. These photos share a look at what the day looked like for the firefighters. [Photo from Shasta Trinity National Forest]

[Photo from Shasta Trinity National Forest]

The Plan:

The North Zone Plan:

The North Zone Warning:

The West Side Plan:

The Weather: 

Although, the Red Flag Warning days have passed, temperatures are still high and humidity is low. In the North Zone temperatures will reach the lower eighties but down south on the tail end of the fire by Lake Pillsbury the temperatures could reach the high nineties.

The Smoke:

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The Roads:

Here is the latest information: (This includes maps of Trinity County roads now closed.)

Other Closures:

Hayfork Airport (F62) is scheduled to CLOSE today, Tuesday Sept 29, 2020, at noon due to fire fighting activities. Please plan your flight accordingly.

The Meetings:

Info here: https://www.facebook.com/events/2749090628665615/Virtual Meeting August Complex north ZoneCommunity_Meeting_Sept_30_2020.01

The Maps:

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Dot
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Dot
3 years ago

Thank you, Kym, for these comprehensive reports

2020
Guest
2020
3 years ago
Reply to  Dot

She reported at briefing people are staying in evacuation zones which is causing loss of structures because firefighters are busy having to escort people to saftey rather than protect structures . If you don’t evacuate (many won’t )please at least be prepared to be burned over .

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https://ucanr.edu/sites/postfire/files/248532.pdf
You are about to be entrapped or burned over by a wildfire: What are your survival options?
M.E. Alexander 1
Department of Renewable Resources, University of Alberta, Edmonton, Alta., Canada

Fedup
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Fedup
3 years ago

Thank you double Kim !

I like stars
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I like stars
3 years ago

Love to all. What a brutal, relentless year.

Scott
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Scott
3 years ago

When is it time to bring in the national guard in for which we have already been paying for and have vast resources

Dave Kahan
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Dave Kahan
3 years ago
Reply to  Scott

I’ve worked around national guard crews a number of times in the past. They invariably have minimal training and little to no experience, and usually don’t even have anyone who can run a chainsaw. In the right situation, it is helpful to have the extra hands around, despite their green-ness. Usually that’s in mop up situations, the slow and mind numbing work of putting out every last hot spot within 300-500′ of the fireline that happens after the flaming front passes by (see the other video). But that was far from the case yesterday around Ruth. Doing structure protection, and/or even being around the conditions described of yesterday, is not where those crews should be. National guard is often used as support personnel in fire camp, which is another great use of them. And for the first time, in 2017 I saw national guard folks guarding the entrance to every side street to deter looting in evacuated neighborhoods. That warmed my heart, for sure!

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago

Hard truths are right. It was hard to listen to but it needed to be heard. Where I live, during in windstorm without fire, a dozen or more large trees came down across the only road out. It was more than a week before the road was cleared and, during that time, slots were cut into the trees across the road so one vehicle at a time could go through. In a fire, there would have been no way to get out.

Perspective
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Perspective
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

And the people that live on the road didn’t clear it? Were you waiting on somebody to clear it for you?

Tired or liberal's
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Tired or liberal's
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Buy fucking chain saw and cut them out of the way, that’s what we do on are road. You can’t rely on the county to do it [edit]

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago

I don’t know where you live but here the trees are big. When I said large, it was not a 60 foot oak. Not too many people have a 4 ft plus chainsaws. As it was the slots that were cleared were six foot wide at the smallest ends of the trunks (and the diameter of some of those were well above the roof line of a full size truck,) back and forth across the road depending on which way the tree fell. Oh, then there was the power wires that came down too. Just because you’re all stirred up is no reason to go off on others. People did good.

Guest
Guest
3 years ago

When is it time for the National Guard to step in or is it just a money thing and nobody wants to lose their paycheck or further business opportunities when a team like the Alaska fire team or the first team calfire made bad decisions it seems as if this fire was only three hundred fifty thousand acres dish and is now three times of size

Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Or do they not want to put fires maybe thats it

Sneed
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Sneed
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Wow!!!

CitizenZ
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CitizenZ
3 years ago

So let me get this right? More people lose their homes because people “think” they can save theirs and end up calling for help? These people should also be held liable for losses of abandoned savable structures…

Threadbare
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Threadbare
3 years ago

I hope people are watching–and hearing–the “Operations Briefing” and “North Zone Warning/Hard Truths” videos. Fire fighters, at great personal risk, had to leave property that could have been defended in order to extract people, including children, who ignored evacuation orders.

THOGM
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THOGM
3 years ago
Reply to  Threadbare

This. While it is good that firefighters prioritize saving lives, it is lamentable that others’ (who did responsibly evacuate) homes are being lost as a result.

Tired or liberal's
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Tired or liberal's
3 years ago
Reply to  THOGM

Most people who live in the area are selfish sociopaths, they only care about themselves, this is why they drive on both sides of the road and don’t give a fuck who may be coming their way it belongs to them because they are dope growers and drug dealers. I figured this out 20yr ago when I moved here why haven’t you locals figured it out, oh that’s right most of you are the assholes doing it. Trump 2020 [edit]

Dave Kahan
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Dave Kahan
3 years ago
Reply to  Threadbare

Sheltering in place is a HUGELY controversial and extremely intense topic. Under the right conditions, which include knowledge of if not actual experience with, wildfire behavior and suppression tactics, EXCELLENT defensible space (https://srcity.org/DocumentCenter/View/4776/Living-With-Fire-PDF?bidId=) preferably no larger trees within reach of damaging the home and its occupants if they fell, a well hardened home that is disinclined to ignite (https://anrcatalog.ucanr.edu/pdf/8393.pdf), preferably in possession of a fire shelter (https://www.supplycache.com/collections/wildland-fire-shelters/products/fire-shelter-new-generation-revision-e) and knowledge of how to deploy it, fire resistant clothing (nomex), heavy vibram soled boots, hardhat, and demonstrated nerves of steel, it could be an option to consider. The reality is, how many of us have all these ducks solidly lined up in a row?

Based on scenarios outlined in the video, this is absolutely NOT an option with children around. And even with all of the above, it’s one thing to hang in there during an ember storm, but a wall of flame is a whole ‘nother ballgame. Every firefighter every year has to watch the fire shelter training video. After decades of watching it, the hairs on the back of my head stand up when the veteran crew boss talks about when he deployed his shelter and was so convinced he was not going to make it he considered getting out of it, taking a deep breath, and getting it over with. The vast majority of civilian deaths from wildfires come from people who stay behind to shelter in place, then freak out and try to evacuate too late, and get their lungs cooked. Expect multiple large trees blocking the road, some of them jackstrawed (one on top of the other in a tangle). Even with the skills to deal with that, it will take some time.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Kahan

Good comment, thanks.

Chubbs
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Chubbs
3 years ago

Usually if a tree is in the road from fire you waited too long to evacuate. Zogg fire blew up I understand getting trapped when you don’t have enough warning. If they have asked you to leave numerous times… maybe you should

Laurie Jensen
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3 years ago

Since its a mandatory evac order why cant the sherriffs remove these stubborn people? like Karen said this morning on the briefing, these people are causing harm and danger to the fire-crew who could be saving other structures So while the fire-crew is trying to get them to leave,when they shoulda already left their neighbors house catches on fire They arent thinking with the brain God gave them, they are sitting on their brain

Dave Kahan
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Dave Kahan
3 years ago
Reply to  Laurie Jensen

As I understand the law, they can’t make you leave your home. They can keep you from returning once you’re gone, though.

Cy Anse
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Cy Anse
3 years ago

I’m not sure who Levi Cope is who took the drone videos but it is categorically illegal to use a drone near or at a wildland fire unless you are part of the fire crew and in direct contact with Air Attack.

It would be helpful if that were made crystal clear when posting drone images so that copycats aren’t encouraged.

There have been incidents where the entire Air Attack on a fire had to be canceled because of civilian drones flying illegally trying to get video.

Please Check One
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Please Check One
3 years ago
Reply to  Cy Anse

Cy Anse, thank you for your comment, you raise important points. As it happens, drone airspace was shut down by the FAA, at least here in Covelo, about a month ago. Don’t know what the situation was in Ruth. Yes, they can scramble your signal and you’re grounded. I should think it would be mandatory during all fires, certainly where air support is a possibility. If it was shut down – did someone actually hack their way in, or was the video done by a fire crew member? I myself also found it troubling.

Firefighter/community member
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Firefighter/community member
3 years ago

The newer drones will not fly and can be shut down through sat/gps. Older drones cannot be shut down. Newer one yes.

Firefighter/Community member
Guest
Firefighter/Community member
3 years ago

I find Levi cope’s attitude and intelligence….insulting. Standing over peoples burned out homes and Jeep. Calling them “poor sons of bitch’s” “whole f**k**g house” using his own words quoted from his own video posted here on RHBB. Just morally and ethically wrong Levi!

Driving around an active fire zone, not actually doing any structure or property protection……. Egotistical, Glorification, disaster junky. What he is actually doing is becoming part of the problem.

What this is, is People driving around becoming part of the problem not part of the solution. These types of behaviors get in the way of actual fire fighting operations and responders and land owners needing to respond to live fire situations. This is why there are hard road closures and drone restrictions. Fact is Levi is a candidate to get stuck In a live fire situation because his selfish need to glorify a disaster. In turn firefighting operations will have to risk their lives to rescue him or worse. If you are not actively doing you’re own structure protection/preparation or helping your neighbors do structure protection/preparation or helping them evacuate. You should not be in the area. Leave the road and air traffic free for “actual” firefighting operations.

Firefighter/community member
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Firefighter/community member
3 years ago

Why do you keep deleting my comments Kym?

Frito Lay
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Frito Lay
3 years ago

Flew out of Arcata on Monday 9/28…view of the smoke layer from above.