Possible Light in the Tunnel of Ash for Growers: Law Enforcement, Cal Fire, and OES Working on a Plan to Allow Cultivators Access to Their Cannabis Crops

Video of ash falling on marijuana plants in the Laytonville area last week. 

Cannabis growers who have been evacuated from areas near the fire burning in Southern Trinity have been frustrated by their inability to go back into areas not yet reached by the fire and provide water and care for their crops.

An email went out from Humboldt County Planning Director John Ford at 11:35 this morning with hope for permit holders. Plans are in the works to let growers back in to water and otherwise care for their crops which in most cases are nearing full term and ready for harvest.

The message to permit holders said,

This email is to let you know the Sheriff, Cal [F]ire and OES are working on a plan that would allow cultivators to enter the evacuation area to care for permitted crops. Planning and Building is providing contact information for all permit holders and Interim Permit holders in the evacuation area to the Sheriff.

The information going out to the cultivators is expected to be delivered by email, so please look for the instructions and documents necessary to care for your crop.

This email is only an early notice and not permission, so please wait for the forthcoming instructions. I noticed some people do not have email addresses on file with us, so if your permitted neighbor has not been contacted, by this email or by the Sheriff’s office, they will need to contact the Sheriff’s office.

Dozer and dope

Dozer operators fighting the fire burning east of Southern Humboldt saw a number of marijuana grows. Whenever possible they not only left them, but dozer operator, Brian Paula said, efforts were made to protect structures such as greenhouses. [Photo from Brian Paula]

Now, farmers will have a chance to assess whether their crops–many left without care in a smoke and ash-filled environment–can be saved.

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Dirty
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5 years ago

Fu..the cops i dnt need no stinking cop permission to check shit

toad eye
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toad eye
5 years ago
Reply to  Dirty

You do now…

Notbuyinit
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Notbuyinit
5 years ago
Reply to  Dirty

Except that there’s roadblocks

bat country
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bat country
5 years ago
Reply to  Notbuyinit

where we are going we dont need roads

Black Rifles Matter
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Black Rifles Matter
5 years ago
Reply to  Notbuyinit

Roadblocks are exactly what they are….”Road” blocks.
Go gettem dirty. ????

the misadventures of bunjee
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the misadventures of bunjee
5 years ago
Reply to  Dirty

Can’t make it one post into a weed thread without some bonehead trolling it apparently.

Black Rifles Matter
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Black Rifles Matter
5 years ago

Who’s the troll? I don’t see a comment that equates to “trolling”

Seriously John Ford?
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Seriously John Ford?
5 years ago

Fuck you mom and pop, and all your eco grovy reasonable homesteads with two or few people – you aren’t feeding the corporate systemic mouth so we don’t really give a shit what effect we have on you- while your ridiculously huge neighbors who have paid their bribes of “legal” bullshit paperwork that has not been verified as ecologically sound- they can come and go.

a neighbor
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a neighbor
5 years ago

Yes. Special treatment. Not fair.

Rio
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Rio
5 years ago

Fing right we can ??

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago
Reply to  Rio

Lol we all know it’s your boss that paid Savvy

North west
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North west
5 years ago

We used to call it a bad year and settled on cutting firewood for our Christmas. Besides there shit is gonna be all messed up in all of this smoke. It’s just the way it goes sometimes

CJ
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CJ
5 years ago
Reply to  North west

What about the ash on everything! You can’t hose it off or shake it off, it’s horrible. Not sure I’d even want to smoke it. I can still see it and smell it on my whole garden & then some. Super sad ?

Sizzle
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Sizzle
5 years ago
Reply to  CJ

Peroxide and epsom salt. You definitely can rinse your plants… and please do

Niola
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5 years ago
Reply to  Sizzle

How would you go about rinsing them?

Biffer deAnglo
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5 years ago
Reply to  CJ

When you get ready to sale call the Weed something special to go along with the smokey smell and taste BONUS.

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
5 years ago
Reply to  North west

Yeah it’s a pretty weak concession.. ‘you can come and check on your Kevin Bacon weed’ gee thanks guys. In a greenhouse the smoke damage is worse. I remember ‘99 was the worst year up to that point. Everything was smoke tainted. This year might be as bad or worse , more widespread.

Not a grower
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Not a grower
5 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

Just curious, why is smoke worse in a greenhouse, wouldn’t it all be protected from the falling ash?

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago

One day is an eternity on a farm in September, I hope people are given access and pull off a miracle. Good luck and be safe.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
5 years ago

I heard if you are permitted you will have to write “sibannaC” on your forehead in ash. This helps in two ways; first, to identify us that are not permitted and secondly, allows firefighters to make eye contact without being turned into stone.

Jacob
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Jacob
5 years ago

What about ranchers and homesteaders. Aren’t their animals and gardens just as important? While were on the topic of people getting to go take care of their stuff. How about they pick up all their workers they left in Garberville and Redway! The workers are all over our town with no $, nowhere to stay, and nowhere to do the human necessities. You Farmers just dumped your illegal workers in town and left em. Thanks alot!

Muddy Black Dodge
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5 years ago
Reply to  Jacob

Good question Jacob….

Crystal
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5 years ago
Reply to  Jacob

I’m hoping that it also includes people with animals up on the mountain mine have been up there without enough food and water I tried to go up on Wednesday when the warning started but chp wouldn’t let me up bell springs Rd .. meanwhile my animals are stuck up there. It’s bullshit you should be able to go at your our risk the fire isn’t even near where I need to go but they keep saying it’s too close ..bs I’ve seen the maps the property is right outside the red zone only island mountain road is through the red zone. There’s going to be a whole lot of pissed off people their gonna have to deal with if everyones stuff starts to die and for no damn reason other than them not letting us through…

Pharmstheproblem
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Pharmstheproblem
5 years ago

So if you need to feed animals you had no way of taking on way out of well we need the tax revenue screw your pets or any thing else of value… Growers some how will be safer than joe blow I quess!

Third World County
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Third World County
5 years ago

Our county is revenue driven. Nothing else seems to matter. The first priority should be people pets and livestock nothing else. How about a video of peoples pets dying of lack of food and water with Louis Armstrong singing “What a Wonderful World” We have a very disgusting group of people running this county right now. Money is King.

Crystal
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5 years ago

I heard and saw a post saying they are gonna start giving permits to people with livestock and plants today to let people through and that you have to go to the planning and development office in redway that it’s through the sheriffs office and the chp and Estelle fennel is that true

E
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E
5 years ago
Reply to  Crystal

We just called and because we are in the permit process we won’t have access. They have a list of people that will get to go up. They don’t give a shit about house animals, or medical gardens. We are SOL

R-dog
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R-dog
5 years ago

Not sure how all this is going to turn out I’m not the guy to go hog wild on putting it a huge crop should be able to salvage something o yha thank God for the early hoop house the more stuff you have in life the more over head you have

Black Rifles Matter
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Black Rifles Matter
5 years ago
Reply to  R-dog

Mo money mo problems

Gazoo
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Gazoo
5 years ago

Campfire-kush is off the hook this year.
Lots of packs getting ready to ship out.
I hear it’s ???
Hella ⛽️⛽️⛽️
HMU Fam.
?????

My animals are going to die let me through
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My animals are going to die let me through
5 years ago
Reply to  Gazoo

So what about those with animals out there starving and thirsty??? That should be good enough reason to get past the road blocks that I have not been able to get around for 4 days I try everyday my animals need food and water ….. The fire isn’t across the river out island mountain Rd let us through…..

Pharmstheproblem
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Pharmstheproblem
5 years ago

Oh ya and what about folks that have their legal 6 plants screw them too!

Food for thought
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Food for thought
5 years ago

If ash will ruin the paint on your car, im not sure if I would want to smoke it or how it would pass testing. Maybe they can extract it somehow

Emerald
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Emerald
5 years ago

After the weed dries an is trimmed an bagged you will not notice any ash at all. People that say other wise haven’t got a clue there’s weeks left until outdoor harvest btw. It all turns to ash as it is. The market doesn’t get a choice this yr sorry folks you Buy an
Smoke what the producers have or go without. I certainly know
Middlemen will be pushing that Smokey weed just as easy cause the whole market is hammered with smoke an ashes. It’s life people will rather drink shitty tasting beer than have no beer at all . Sorry middlemen high prices this yr an Smokey weed get use to it dirtbags.

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
5 years ago
Reply to  Emerald

Wrong- it is very noticeable. You might be right as far as ‘take it or leave it’… pretty much the whole west coast is as bad or worse.

Emerald
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Emerald
5 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

No it’s not affected much at all plus the first heavy rain and wind will knock it out stfu rookie grow a pair of balls or get outta the business lmao

Local farmer
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Local farmer
5 years ago
Reply to  Emerald

????LOL

Gjakogi
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Gjakogi
5 years ago
Reply to  Emerald

Lmao you go ahead and try to sell that tainted poisoned garbage weed. See how many repeat customers you’re gonna get

SmallFry
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SmallFry
5 years ago
Reply to  Emerald

Why the heck does smoke matter anyway? Cannabis is grown TO smoke. All weed tastes like smoke when it’s smoked. It’s a crop literally made too burn anyway.. Hello! Definitely had a few crops go thru fires before.. this ones is a bit heavier smoke than than most.. but never has there been stuff turned away cause of smoke flavor..

Greeneyedfury
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5 years ago
Reply to  Emerald

That ash that’s falling on everything isn’t just from wood . Its full of particulate matter made up of metals , paint , plastics ,any human or animal loss of life etc. The ash and smoke is not just from our local fires , its from all over California and Oregon etc. These toxins will sicken anyone who ingests them via smoke, shatter , honey oil etc . I think anyone with a lick of sense should recognize that there should be no harvest – and it should all be scrapped . Someone else commented that you can clean your bud with peroxide and Epsom salts . This will also leave toxic residue .

Steez
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Steez
5 years ago
Reply to  Greeneyedfury

LOL. Peroxide and epsom salt is poison huh? Tell that to Jorge Cervantes. You are trippin. Scrap the crop lololol. So all the food grown this year should be left to rot then too? Because a couple buildings burned? Remember the Karr fire that burned thousands of buildings and people? Ya, everything passed testing that year too. You could not be more delusional about a little ash

Third World County
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Third World County
5 years ago

Kernels of ash and a smokey flavor, delicious.

Swine
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Swine
5 years ago

[edit]. What about people with animals and homes? This is disgusting. Weve talked to several people about chexking on our goat and poultrt because we were in town when they closed the road and no one wil budge. Guess the backroads it is. Thanks assholes

Swine
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Swine
5 years ago
Reply to  Swine

If my goats and sheep and turkeys are dead im takin em to john ford and estelles offices.

Mar
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Mar
5 years ago

The ash is eating through the paint on cars in Bayside.

Farce
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Farce
5 years ago

Everybody worth their salt that I know sneaks back in to water. Yes- they figure out a way even if it means hiking guerrilla-style and having a neighbor pick them up in a quad. That’s how we have always done it. These permitted mega-farms should not get a pass if other ranchers and growers do not! The permitted mega-farms have tons of financial resources- most of them have outside big-money investors and some even have outside corporate backing. This plan basically puts outside financial investors ahead of locals. The permitted mega-farms are in the best position to lose a year. They get zero sympathy from me or from anybody I’ve been speaking with. The local mom and pops get all the sympathy and respect! And if you are a local mom and pop who permitted? I wish you the best also! If you were my neighbor I’d help you sneak in to water…and we would work together in this crisis (ya permit patsy, I still love ya!)

Black Rifles Matter
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Black Rifles Matter
5 years ago
Reply to  Farce

AMEN

10 toes
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10 toes
5 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Churrrrch ????????

Mike
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Mike
5 years ago

We live up here off Dugan mill which is only under evac warning and we can’t even get water delivered up here if we leave we can’t come back.

Emerald
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Emerald
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Don’t farm where water doesn’t flow an your
Problems are solved. These
Comments get better an better between the ash ruining your weed in middle September lmao not even an then this guy with no water delivered you people r a comedy show..

mike
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mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Emerald

Its not water for crops its water for my everyday living ass hat

For sure
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For sure
5 years ago

Lol- somehow I never bothered to sell my last, super well-stored, climate controlled crop… I guess now I can get a good price! LMAO … My 2 lbs- that’s right, a 2 lb harvest-( the abatement warning scared me!)–who will start the bidding at $2k? Ya never know what’s gonna happen nowadays. Stay safe, sane & be helpful to your friends & neighbors. Visualize rain!

blocksburg
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blocksburg
5 years ago

its not about who gets through the roadblocks but why there getting let through, this county could give a rats ass about the lives of anyone, they will let the permitted growers through because the county (john ford) don’t want to get shorted on all the money they will make off those grows (dirty weed) or not, legalization is time for the feds to step in, f–k the people (crook ass thieves) running humboldt county, people of humboldt are voices don’t matter if we don’t speak up (legal or not)

Drain the swamp
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Drain the swamp
5 years ago
Reply to  blocksburg

I agree. We need a two part rule since we are Stuck with one Party in this state.

Mother Hovered
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Mother Hovered
5 years ago

Ford obviously sees his funding stream drying up and he doesn’t like that.
Are people going to have to pay their square footage tax on gardens the county says you have to leave and let die?
The way the Sheriff’s Office sees it is that there is no way to bust everyone but if they keep everyone out for long enough it will all die. They see everyone else’s funding stream drying up and they like that.

Also Red Cross is picking up the tab for all the motels and that boosts the county coffers with occupancy taxes and only inconveniences the evacuees.

So the longer the evacuation is in effect the more money they make.

Ford and Honsall are now at odds with each other.

Ford wants you to go in and risk everything to make his job easier and ensure his bread is buttered.

Honsall wants you to stay out and sacrifice everything to make his job easier and butter his bread.

I have dietary restrictions that are best addressed at home.
I ain’t getting three gluten free squares a day at no shelter even if I did want them, which I don’t.
My problem is that it is now impossible for me to share the considerable surplus food I produce with someone who might need it.

Neither one of them seem to give a damn if you don’t even have a weed garden and you just want to water your food garden and harvest your orchard or tend farm animals and keep pets safe and sound or just want to get a shower and a shave and sleep in your own bed. CoViD is a real threat while evacuated. This needs to be reevaluated.

Stay home and face the risk or evacuate and face that risk.

You can always leave again if necessary.
You can’t unget CoViD.

They don’t give a shit if your wife has a life threatening intestinal condition and is public toilet phobic and requires her own throne, and to turn her away at a checkpoint close to home delaying her defecating for a long time for any reason could be fatal.
I’m dead serious.

I’m not F-ing joking.

It caused a real problem and it’s not something to fool around with.
It’s nearly killed her twice.

So I guess it’s you can’t go home and take a shit on your permitted shitter so you die because Fucking Honsall says.

But then it’s you can go home and take care of your permitted shit so it doesn’t die because Fucking Ford says.

Both of their positions are completely backwards.

Complete nonsense.

My shitter is permitted.
And I pay the Fucking County $400 a month in taxes alone. Don’t try to tell my wife and me that we can’t use it.

The sheriff’s fucked up on the evacuation order because they don’t know the difference between the North Fork Eel and The Mainstem Eel.

That’s straight Hill-Billy.

We don’t have any weed.
We have two medicals but didn’t grow because of Ford’s threats.

Don’t even suggest I am trying to get home to water my weed.

Any one can have 6 plants and that is permitted.

If Ford thinks you should only be allowed to keep your shit alive if you have a commercial permit he should be terminated from his job instantly.

If Honsall thinks your wife shouldn’t be allowed to return home to shit to keep herself alive he should be terminated from his job instantly as well.

And if anyone thinks volunteer firefighters deserve any kind of punitive action or restrictions on travel based on some petty objection over an excessive list or misunderstanding is on a power trip and needs to lose their job instantly and have their head examined thoroughly for a good long time, I don’t care who it is.

That is beyond stupid.

Rio
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Rio
5 years ago
Reply to  Mother Hovered

If I had a shitter worth paying 400 dollars a month for, I would build a trailer and take that f-er with me

names
Guest
names
5 years ago
Reply to  Rio

If I had a wife worth a $400/mo shitter, I’d have to work for the County.

Maybe the State.

People
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People
5 years ago
Reply to  Rio

Easy for you to say

Brent Peeck
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5 years ago
Reply to  Mother Hovered

Exactly why I refused to leave for the Brooktrails evacuation. I am a big fan of battery operated timed watering systems

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago

Dear Mr Ford. This action clearly draws a line that you have been pushing for awhile. For one, I am a permitted farmer. Thank you for helping to clean up the environment. My main point now, and one I warned you about several years ago. There are many who couldn’t afford your process, many who wouldn’t, and most importantly many small mom and pops and back to the landers, smart people who helped develop solar and thriving community centers, and VFD’s. They also ranch, and log, musicians, professors, lawyers, doctors, Native Americans, people who live in this county. Independent strong people that you have attacked, discredited, and tried to drive from the land. You got here and thought, its all about Pot. Its not. We have an extremely varied colorful history. This action leaves everyone else out, like your whole process, and the soon to come SAFE HOMES program that will attempt to finish what the code enforcement wars of the 80’s, and 2007-8 failed to do. The people, all the people deserve fair treatment. You have put yourself in a position to become judge and jury for peoples lives and land. County code isn’t a Bible. Your permit fees won’t save the county, but your persecution of everyone else will help ruin it. People will not forget this. Estelle, old friend, this applies to you too. This decision should apply to all, not just permit holders.

For sure
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For sure
5 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I like how you wrote this. The nonsense of going after small gardens, especially during a pandemic , is unconscionable. Ford is such a cold-blooded person. The roads need help, schools need help, homeless need help- yet the Administrators of Humboldt waste funds on small farmers & soon on bldg code realities, most of which don’t hurt anyone.

Duh
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Duh
5 years ago

What do you guys think this county is made from?? Lol the answer is WEED. If that shit burns might as well let the rest of the county burn too, please people *rolling my eyes at you stubborn folk*

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
5 years ago

Great music in the video.

iLoveplants
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iLoveplants
5 years ago

I will be laughing my ass of when someone they let in gets trapped, injured or even killed and the county gets sued for liability. What a joke!!!

SmallFry
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SmallFry
5 years ago
Reply to  iLoveplants

Actually though, I think the county may be creating an even more dangerous situation, as people who are intent on getting through will seek alternative routes in.. Walking into the properties instead of having a sensible system to let everyone thru in an organized manor..

Fedup
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Fedup
5 years ago

I think we all know what should happen to Ford!

jason
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jason
5 years ago

Get yer trail bike out and get on with it. , why is anyone crying about their roadblocks.
Hike around the damn thing and get on with the business of carrying on.

Trail bike rentals are gonna be way up next week.

G
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G
5 years ago

Having gone through fires on our property all I can say is if you truly want to be self sustained make sure you are as ready as you can be in a fire situation. If your life isn’t in Immediate danger you should have stayed at your property to take care of your crop. What’s wrong is giving permit holders special permission to go back in when normal homeowners or people who refuse to bend over for the government can’t. If it’s truly that big of a risk everyone should be out, if it’s safe to go back and water your plants let everyone back to check on their livelihoods as well.

iLoveplants
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iLoveplants
5 years ago

I’m not your “fried”

Local farmer
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Local farmer
5 years ago
Reply to  iLoveplants

I think he meant fiend.

Perspective
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Perspective
5 years ago

Hey John Ford and Humboldt County, this is ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT!! Are you f#cking kidding me?!? So a permit holder has more rights than a homesteader? Unf#cking believable!! How does a cannabis farm have more value?? What’s the value based on? Someone that relies on their food garden and animals will be devastated while the permit holder will just have a rough year and be back planting next year. And chances are they have already sold the first round of light deps for too dollar, so they aren’t hurting at all. Are they going to check to see if the farmer has a state license?? Probably not. Not one state license in my neighborhood, but plenty of instagram posts, cocaine, shitty drivers and a road that has never been this bad. EVERY farm in my neighborhood is selling black market and not one single gram has gone to a legal distro. Bullshit!

Farmer John
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Farmer John
5 years ago

Are tomatoes, apples, zucchini, grapes, pears, raspberries, strawberries, onions, and or plums permitted crops?

I’ve been registered with the USDA for about 30 years.

Don’t try and tell me anyone’s weed crop is more important than my food crops.

w
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w
5 years ago

this isn’t very equitable.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
5 years ago

What a joke! Good thing this small farm committed a cardinal sin and pulled the much despised and hated plastic this year! With larger numbers of little plants.. no increase in square foot. All the water that would have been used late September, runs right to the fishes.. We are all done on my small plot. Everything gone.. at Indoor prices to boot! Most everything passed as indoor. But I guess the county and state knows soo much more than farmers who actually Cultivate the goods! The small amount of plants remaining are on Timers! In smart pots… haterz! I actually don’t water more than once a week this time of year anyway.. very small amounts of water is used.. All on water stored this time of year.. All the ash sucks.. good thing my small green house is covering everything from the ash anyway.. what little there is will get blown off with the weed blower.. then rinsed before harvest.. shouldn’t be too bad!

SmallFry
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SmallFry
5 years ago

I mean I kinda understand the county wanting to keep folks safe.. but what about a record of in an out.. or so many people in and out a time. Permited Pansies are the only ones permitted? What a whole new level of LOW.. Just another level of BushWack from the county! Unbelievable!

Back East
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5 years ago

First and foremost, I hope everyone is safe and able to get to their homes to take care of their animals and plants (whatever they may be). I’ve noticed many comments about crops tainted by smoke and ash. To my knowledge I’ve never had anything that was tainted by smoke or whatever. My question is, if your crop still has another few weeks or even a month or more, will it be able to rebound? I’d like to think with time that they will be able to come back and smell and taste good but I guess I don’t really know. My other issue is I see people frequently talk about high prices per unit. Prices are definitely up from a couple years ago when everything got blown up. Two years ago I was hearing 1500-1800 and that’s here in beautiful western PA. Now I hear 1800-2400 with many variables at play (I’ve seen some very good indoor that goes for more). I put it on an earlier thread and no one bit, but I’m also vaguely aware that some “permitted” farmers are moving quite a bit out the back door. A friend of a friend who lives in my city has been getting regular shipments from a “permitted” farm in Southern California. This seems to have stabilized the prices so they are neither really low or really high. I’m just surprised the law enforcement nation wide hasn’t caught on yet. Stay safe my friends.

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
5 years ago
Reply to  Back East

There’s a good chance you might see some smoke tainted weed this year. It is a thing that happens, especially inside greenhouses. When the smoke hangs heavy in the air for 10+ days near harvest, as it has been this year all over the west coast, it will have a campfire smell.
No getting around it. It’ll be a shit year for out door.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
5 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

Literally.. I have never had that happen to me WC.. Green houses or not.. Course, this is literally the thickest smoke I have seen.. so maybe it will have some sort of impact guess we will find out.. Actually, I kinda wonder if all the extra carbon this year will also have an impact.. Maybe more information will be available as legaleaze must Pass Cali’s stringent testing. I think the Ash is more of a concern. It can be fairly easily removed with leaf blowers.
Especially before it rains..

With liberty and justice for all
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With liberty and justice for all
5 years ago

Disgusting!!!! Its definitely time for new representation around here. The political scene in Humboldt has become so vile and low rent it makes a life time local want to just leave. We could start by flushing funky fenell in 40 days. Please show up to vote people this has gotten so festered and rotten we have to disinfect the infection!!!!

James
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James
5 years ago

UNREAL! It’s okay to go tend to cannabis plants, but you can’t check on your house, your pets, your livestock,etc. It’s obviously about the money. The County wants their tax dollars. Farmers should unite and not pay a freaking dime in taxes if they were evacuated! Time for change! Get out and vote!

Joe
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Joe
5 years ago

Everyone here needs to calm down you all sound like middle schoolers, there are millions of dollars at stake for hundreds of people and you guys can’t give them the little victory of going to check out their businesses/farms that they’ve invested all their earnings into. Not everything is about you. Learn that then you’ll be more accepting of change. Every place is and everybody is meant to grow, not stay and continue to do what they’ve done before. Everyone commenting is obviously butt hurt they didn’t obey the law and go through with permits. “Bend over backwards for the government”?? This is supposed to be about support for one another and wishing the best for your neighbor. The pot industry helps finance the state and county a lot more than you guys would understand since you aren’t part of it. People pay all this money in taxes just to have it burn away? The permitted farms should include all kinds of permitted food also. Even cattle or horses. If you are a business then it completely makes sense to let them go back and check out their assets. Everyone needs to grow up and show gratitude that the fires didn’t spread towards us, and be patient and kind. Stop acting like children. Thank you to everyone in humboldt county working to keep us safe and get us back home.

Perspective
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Perspective
5 years ago
Reply to  Joe

If millions are at stake this year, then it’s safe to say they made millions last year. In no way, shape or form is it ok for permitted growers to visit their farm while denying anyone else. Don’t forget, lots of people out there that don’t chase that dollar and depend on their garden and animals for sustenance. Not everyone eats out all the time. One person’s garden has no more value than the next. “Millions of dollars”, that’s where the line is drawn? How about buying you neighbors food supply for them for the next year if you go in and they don’t. How about remember, not everyone is trying to play the rec game. “A business”????? Is life only about business? “Not everything is about you.” Listen to your own words!

Spontanica was a great strain
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Spontanica was a great strain
5 years ago

What a mess.

Misanthrope
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Misanthrope
5 years ago

As the old saying goes… Ya roll the dice, ya takes yer chances.

Growing pot en masse in fire-adapted mountain ecosystems, sucking up surface and ground waters the system desperately needs in critically dry years. So you’ve profiteered off of the land most years and now Ma Nature is hitting back.

While I don’t wish any physical harm to anyone, eventually losing a crop year to fire while growing in the woods was absolutely inevitable. Having gone through wildfire at my home, I feel for ranchers, homesteaders, eco-friendly growers, and those living responsibly with the land who are trying to get back home. Been there.

The rest can, in the canna-vernacular of old, go…

“Up In Smoke”

NorCalNative
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NorCalNative
5 years ago

This smoke effing sucks. My heart goes out to outdoor growers and a smoke-tainted crop.

However, I will absolutely avoid smoke-tainted flowers and only purchase indoor flowers with my $300 monthly weed allowance this harvest season.

Not happy about that, but smoke-tainted weed will overpower terpene profiles. Sometimes farming really sucks.

I rarely see outdoor flowers at HPRC or Proper Wellness in Rio Dell anyway.

thetallone
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thetallone
5 years ago
Reply to  NorCalNative

Indoor weed is typically grown with chemicals and synthetic fertilizers. I’d rather put up with a little smoky smoke.

P*** W***lies
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P*** W***lies
5 years ago
Reply to  thetallone

Commercial food crops?

thetallone
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thetallone
5 years ago
Reply to  P*** W***lies

What about it? Pot is vigorously tested for chemicals and impurities. Food isn’t. What’s wrong with this picture?

Joe
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Joe
5 years ago

^^^^You should understand that most people are still trying to make their money back from everything they invested to get to where they are now. Millions of dollars yes, all these farms combined are worth millions of dollars in investment. No one said forget the small time neighbors either? All it takes is that small time neighbor to ASK the big time neighbor for help. You sound silly trying to play victim here. Everyone is victim and everyone is in this together. If some people can make it up to their farms but you can’t, don’t THROW A FIT like a toddler and just be patient. People who haven’t gotten their permits think these farms are just drowning in profit without realizing how much money is put in to it and how long it takes to make it back. Please grow some respect for other people. Everyone is showing so much immaturity on these posts. Makes me sick. Life’s not only about business but if you’ve put your whole life into a business for your future children and grandchildren to never have to worry about a place to sleep or food on their plates and that helps others and helps the economy, There really isn’t anything for you to be bitching about. Believe it or not some people put their lives earnings into their farms because they are passionate about weed. I don’t understand why people hate on permits so much, hate deprives from envy I guess. Not everyone eats out all the time? What does that even mean? Not many people farmers or not eat out all the time so that’s an irrelevant comment. Sorry to those people who have their 6 plants and their gardens and animals on their farms, same goes to the ones with cattle, and the ones with permitted farms. It’s unfortunate that some people can’t support one another due to their hate of the industry. Everyone is on the same boat here.

Local farmer
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5 years ago
Reply to  Joe

Well said joe. I do understand people being pissed about not being allowed back to their farms while permitees are allowed. I’m permitted and would go water my neighbors crop for him or her if I could come and go while they couldn’t. Simply because of a permit. It is bullshit! Hating on permitted farms is childish and bullshit to. Be cool and don’t hate on your neighbors as they may have to water your farm for you.

SmallFry
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5 years ago
Reply to  Joe

Yeah. Ok Joe.. believe it or not..OG marketeers also have a lot invested into their homestead as well. Just because one has or doesn’t have a permit doesn’t mean you are not invested into your farm, or even the community. Or that you backwoods farm cannabis exclusively for the money… If I could help a friendly permitted Neighbor save thier crop or animals because of a back trail. I would… absolutely. I have a neighbor that I have some contentions with, still went over there to check in and make sure they were alright, or needed some help. I don’t think all permitees are drowning in profit, on contrary… I actually think they are excessively over taxed, and regulated to a pulp.. same for the other foot. Not all Original Marketeers are rolling in dough either.. but because I went against the grain.. should be able to have some extra to help the fire departments, and other organizations this year, instead of throwing it to the Tax man.. for essentially heavy handed beaurocratic Raids against my neighbors..

But why should I have to ask my neighbors when they probably have a lot to take care of themselves, when I am perfectly capable of handling my own, if I could just get through. Being patient is a luxury when your faced with losing your livelihood.. especially based on unscrupulous actions handed out by the county. I understand keeping folks safe.. or roads clear for Emergency personnel. Ext.. but fires are no stranger to So Hum. Actually So hum has delt with Fire fairly well before regulations and permits.. so this segregatory Bull is tottaly Bull.

Maybe in the same choppy waters.. but I wouldn’t say we are all in the same boat..

P*** W***lies
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P*** W***lies
5 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

Taxashun without representashun, is right below pfedophilia, and right above the Covid scamdemic, in my list of things that make no sense to migo.

E
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E
5 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

Really well said

Perspective
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Perspective
5 years ago
Reply to  Joe

Cry me a river! I’m in the “industry” and I would bet I’ve lived this lifestyle much longer than you. No hate from me towards permitted farms. All of my friends have permitted farms. I work with these folks. I do however have a problem with the county deciding one person’s property and possessions are worth more than the next simply because they have a permit to cultivate. That’s just wrong! Every single farm I know and that’s a lot of them have done extremely well this year. If you are failing financially, then you either suck at what you do or you are new to this and/or didn’t have the proper capital. The point isn’t if a person has a permit or not, it’s chosing who gets to save their assets.

E
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E
5 years ago

Ok. Great. I just want to f’ing go home. We didn’t even get to evacuate our house or animals. We’ve been out on our asses since this started, spending a ridiculous amount on hotels. We tried getting a room voucher to no avail. I’m tired, my family needs a break from being confined in our car, or in a room. Can’t really be out hiking around with the air quality either… something needs to give. It’s been days, I don’t need my damn door busted down on top of all of the groceries I’m definitely losing out on because we’re off grid, but my cats in there. We have multiple outdoor animals that are fending for themselves also.. I need to f’ing go home. That’s it. Can someone, freaking ANYONE, tell me when the hell they are going to open up Alderpoint road, past dyerville loop?! Thanks in advance…

E
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E
5 years ago
Reply to  E

I’m sorry, let me clear something up… the Red Cross kicks ass and has totally helped us, even if they weren’t able to find us hotel accommodations (and they did), I would’ve totally camped out at the fairgrounds to avoid paying another $150 a night for a room. Great people, and if you’re in need they definitely are there to help. The “Pay it Forward” group are doing amazing things also.. thanks so much for taking some stress off our plates!

E
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E
5 years ago

And to continue my rant a little further, since I quite obviously have nothing else going on… of course we are freaking envious that these people get to go up and water their plants… legal or not, don’t you think ALL of us have TONS of money put into our homes and livelihoods? I don’t wish ill on anyone, but like someone else said, the people able to go up could help out their neighbors a little with a lift or something ? I know I would be willing if the tables were turned… it is what it is.. but certainly getting restless

P*** W***lies
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P*** W***lies
5 years ago
Reply to  E

Divide and conquer.

Any questions ?

SmallFry
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SmallFry
5 years ago
Reply to  E

Good Luck E! I hope you are able to return home soon too! Hopefully you’ll be able to find a lift. Hopefully your critters will be ok! What are folks supposed to do with a bunch of live chickens like I have? They need food and water for sure!

E
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E
5 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

I am so sad for your chickens, smallfry! We are thinking about hiking up to home at this point… we’ve had one of the cats 13 years and she’s stuck inside.. I would hate for her to starve.. I got my rant out, but I truly hope we all stay safe and are to go home soon!

SmallFry
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SmallFry
5 years ago
Reply to  E

Thanks E! Sincerely hope your cat and property will be okay! And seriously best of luck getting thru all this, I hope you and family make it home soon! If you do decide to renegade in please take care! It is a serious situation.. Chickens are okay.. had a friend check on them and they’re good!

Guest
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5 years ago

Maybe ask someone in the fire dept. to try and feed and water your animals. Or a neighbor going in. You don’t know until you try. Or rattle Estelle’s cage in the Planning Dept. in Redway. I took a whole zoo out by myself and would be making some noise if I couldn’t get to my animals that weren’t being fed or watered.