Marci Kitchen: Parole ‘Imminent’ Says Humboldt County and CDCR
Marci Kitchen’s Sept 3, 2018 booking photo.
In September of 2018, a judge sentenced Marci Kitchen to eight years in prison for the hit and run deaths of two 14-year-old girls–her daughter, Kiya, and Faith Tsarnas–while Kitchen was driving intoxicated. Today, according to Ms. Kitchen’s ex-husband, less than two years later, she may be paroled. And if she isn’t released today, she will be very soon, according to both Humboldt County and the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation.
According to Stacey Eads, Assistant District Attorney for Humboldt County, she can’t confirm the exact date Marci Kitchen will be released on parole. “Although I cannot confirm that she will be paroled tomorrow, I can share I was advised on July 20 by the Eureka Parole Unit that Ms. Kitchen was to be part of Governor Newsom’s ‘imminent release plan,’ she told us in an email yesterday. “In response to receiving that information…the DA Victim Witness Unit began working with the Eureka Parole Unit in reaching out to the families of the victims in order to alert them of her imminent release and advise of options the families could explore, such as requesting she not be paroled to specific counties, including Humboldt.”
A spokesperson for the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR), Luis Patino, told us, “CDCR does not release the exact date, location, or time of a release for safety and security purposes.” However, he did confirm that she will be released to state parole this month as part of the early release actions designed to reduce the spread of the Coronavirus in the prison system.
Joe Kitchen, the father of Kiya, told us in a message that Marci would be sent to county for quarantine for 14 days then she would be released in Humboldt County though still required to report to a parole officer.
Links to earlier stories:
- Hit and Run: Child Injured in Fortuna
- Two Teenage Girls Killed by Hit and Run Driver
- Witness May Have Seen Vehicle Fleeing Last Night’s Fatal Hit and Run
- Vehicle Involved in Hit and Run Death of Teens Found Near Home of Mother of One of the Teens
- CHP Confirms They’ve Recovered Vehicle Involved in Fatal Hit and Run at One of the Victim’s Residences
- Driver of Vehicle in Tuesday’s Hit and Run Has Contacted Law Enforcement
- A Candlelight Vigil for the Two Young Girls Tragically Killed in a Hit and Run Accident
- Grief Counseling Offered at Fortuna Middle School
- Good Progress’ Learning About Death of Fortuna Teens, Says CHP Spokesperson
- 911 Call Reporting the Hit and Run Which Left Two Girls Dead Last Week; Warning, This Is Graphic Audio
- CHP Asks For Help Finding Two Suspected in Hit and Run Deaths of Two Teenagers
- Suspect’s Attorneys Refute CHP’s Press Release
- Kiya Suzanne Kitchen: Full of Life and Love
- Friends Rally Round Joe Kitchen Whose Daughter Died in Fortuna Hit and Run Accident
- Marci Kitchen Arrested and Made Bail
- Sheriff’s Office Releases Booking Photo and Charges Against Marci Kitchen
- Woman Accused of Killing Her Daughter and Her Daughter’s Friend in DUI Collision Files Claim Against Fortuna for Damages
- Father and Brother of Victim of Fortuna Hit and Run Drop Claim Against City, etc.
- After Surrendering Passport on Monday, Marci Kitchen Approved to Leave State
- ‘Enough’s Enough,’ Joe Kitchen Calls for Community to Pack Courtroom Tomorrow
- A Prayer Walk in Remembrance at the Two Year Anniversary of the Collision Which Killed Faith Tsarnas and Kiya Kitchen
- Two Years After the Hit and Run Deaths of Faith Tsarnas and Kiya Kitchen, Community Members Gather to Pray for Healing and Justice
- Marci Kitchen Expected to Make a Plea Deal by Monday Afternoon, Says Father of Kiya Kitchen
- Marci Kitchen Pleads Guilty to Fatally Striking Her Daughter, Kiya, and Faith Tsarnas While Driving Drunk And Then Fleeing the Scene
- Marci Kitchen Unexpectedly Surrendered Herself to the Humboldt County Jail
- Protesters Picket Outside of Courthouse at Marci Kitchen’s Sentencing Hearing
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Disgusting
It’s tragic.
Worse than disgusting! WAY! WAY ! WORSE! She will be released from a shorter sentence than the number of years each of those girls had to live before she killed them ! HOW IS THAT JUSTICE IN A CASE OF TAKING THE LIFE OF TWO BEAUTIFUL PRECIOUS YOUNG KIDS? ? ? ?
OMG, how can this be happening? Both those precious beautiful girls don’t get to come back and finish their lives!
How is it any kind of justice that after only two years she gets out to drink and drive and in danger more innocent lives? ?
White privilege.
Totally true.legal pot growers run the county
It isn’t at all got anything to do with color race or creed, it’s the bullshit covid -19, when they release her they should make her feel the pain she has caused to the community someway or another.
I just guessing she might have to watch her back, because this area has some pretty messed up people that handle justice out there, their own way , that’s just my opinion.
Im white I don’t ever get privilege at all but it does exist but there is a connection or something when people like newsom do this it’s privilege to people he is involved with even if it’s like a distant family member of say a contributor of newsom someone who lines his pockets so is there white privilege yes and no because blacks, asian, Mexican people can and do get these same privileges you say is white no no my friend it’s called green privilege if your part of the 1% you get special privileges another fact slavery was never abolished it was extended to all but the 1% they changed it and made corporations that give these things called jobs the people get these jobs and work these jobs that is probably not what they wanted in life and hate it these places pay you a minimum wage to make you feel like it’s not a sweat shop slave factory this small wage you make barely gets you by after you have to pay your bills which your rent, electric, groceries for the month your paying these places which are mostly owned by your government what whatever is left has to last you hmm I’d call that slavery , I have not worked for anyone in over 16 years I feel great I’m happy I now own multiple businesses that do well that’s because they know they have to give us a choice they won’t tell you but everyone has a choice freedom isn’t free.
Obviously you don’t know anyone highly educated who happily works for a corporation, making our lives easier because of technological innovation. We’d be a 3rd world nation without corportations. You do you, but your understanding of others is lacking.
🕯🌳That’s fucking insane.
California,nice job.
That’s super messed up! I can understand letting go some non violent offenders with short sentences.. but this is just crazy town. Her actions and crime are horrendous! She should have to take her chances with Covid in prison like anyone else. How is releasing her going to do any good? Lame!
It’s not this woman killed 2 children tried to get her son to say he did it and she as drunk when she mowed them down yet she stayed free til the end and was also put in a not real prison and only got 8 years for murdering the lives of 2 children who had a future. She was treated with white gloves from the start and now not even 2 years later is being released to do it again in a county where she is supposed to be not able to live WTF is wrong with this county and the whole thing was injustice from the very beginning. Anyone else would have been given 16 yrs for killing 1 person and she did 2 including her own and that just goes to show you how messed up our county is and how they cater to some. Not right. I know many people who are in prison for much less offenses and they are not being released. Where is the Justice for the 2 stolen lives?
If the masks work like they claim they do, why don’t they just give her a mask and leave her sorry ass in there.
Masks are not magic. They reduce the chance of transmission. They don’t stop it entirely. Just like wearing a seatbelt reduces the chance of dying in a car wreck but it isn’t a magic shield that means you will never die in a car wreck.
so what you’re saying kym is that seatbelts are a democrat conspiracy to take away our freedoms and emasculate us, just like masks are, right?
edit: occurs to me i should specify that i’m being sardonic, on account of some of the incoherent things people genuinely believe…
I have found that indicating sarcasm saves confusion…
‘Max Balm…..’, I’m presuming it’s you from SoHum. You are living in a strange uneducated place in your mind. Hello, the reality is this covid thing is real with excessive amounts of deaths and sickness to the weak and the healthy. Time to cut out the Fox news, the Trumper mentality. Do it for you, your family, and everyone else you encounter… 👎. Your parents would not survive the sickness, if you think they would, I know ICU nurses and ER nurses that would beg to differ. Mask up around your folks and wash your hands you could literally kill your parents bringing the covid to them…. And for anybody else reading this message, look up on the internet people who survived the covid telling their true stories… Do it it’s eye opening…
Muddy, you missed the sarcasm in his piece.
Yes I did. Reread it couple of times, still don’t see it. Oh well.
Still wanted to get that message out… Much love out to you and your family.
I’m not sure what it is about that picture of the succulent on your(?) deck, but it just gives me hope and makes me feel at peace. Thanks for sharing.
Ours like that are blooming too. Both bees and hummingbirds like them.
Agree the succulent picture has it’s gentle touch, to ease an unsettling subject.
Yes, the covid is real. Just like the flu is real. Muddy Black Dodge, are you a sheep in a dog’s skin?
Fortuckyian, are you are a sheep dogs clothing?
Statistically, most of our parents would survive this illness. Official mortality rate for those over 65 is something like 8-10%.
It’s worth noting that 80% of Covid deaths are with seniors over 65. Also, surviving Covid isn’t always awesome, as there are long term major complications for some people. How healthy you are has a lot to do with it. The chances of surviving this as an unhealthy senior are not good. That said, their chances aren’t good anyway..
I so agree with you. Many of the younger people do not remember getting measles and mumps and chicken pox,polio,.. we had to go through all those diseases each with the possibility of being fatal. Wear a mask. It’s the least you can do. And masks only work if the nose is covered down to under the chin.
Perhaps there should exist a universal sarcasm emoji.
Or font
I prefer to let people figure it out, but “/s” is the common way to denote the use of sarcasm that may be too subtle for the common person to perceive.
This common person thought for at least a year that this was some sort of signature that people were doing…Online talking is hard…Tone is incredibly important to humans.
Totally true.legal pot growers run the county
I think you pick up on sarcasm just fine… usually.
I’ve had some time to fine tune my senses but…Lately, my brain doesn’t know whether something came from the Onion or it is real.
Exactly.. and it’s worth pointing out that you can wear a MASK ALLDAY but… It’s 100% pointless Unless your using Sanitizer and cleaning car keys and purse when you come out of the store if you touch them. Lots of attention put towards masks but HANDS spread germs.
WHOOSH…
I cannot believe this! She gets drunk, drives, runs over her own child and her child’s friend, leaves the scene, has her son disguise the damage to her vehicle and then hides from law enforcement. Now, barely two years after the incident, she is handed a “get out of jail free” card?
Well, with the shape our world is in these days, I guess anything is possible.
Excuse me while I go puke!
Accurate synopsis of events. Don’t forget [edit]her boyfriend- the son of a famous weed lawyer. While this weed lawyer made continual delays in her trial and pulled strings. She also put her son in the position of lying for her- telling him to lie in court about what happened when she ran over and abandoned his own sister to die in the street…She is a psychopath and she will make more bad things happen. She is incapable of showing regret because she is a psychopath. Yet she will be released among us….who will be her next victim? I guess we will have to wait and see!
Hmm…Kym edited out part of my comment. I’m not sure why. I referred to her international party travels as her lawyer delayed the case repeatedly. Yes- she went abroad and partied on. After killing her daughter and another young girl. (And fleeing the scene, hiding the car and making her son lie for her). I think it is an important part of understanding who she really is…Maybe I used the wrong words, Kym?
You accused Ms Kitchen of illegal behavior without proof.
I did the same thing and erased my comment. There’s a whole hell of allot that one could “accuse” her of. Speaking of that did you hear of the very recent rip off of a legal farm up salmon creek area that the cops were called in on? The “suspect” may or may not make this news section allot. The “suspect” name may or may not rhyme with Jade Jarris. He or she may or may not of been released from some serious charges recently because of covid. Definantly worth looking I’m to.
Kym- Oh, okay. Sorry about that! I know it’s one of your rules but I missed it. Some of us unfortunately know her proclivities but yes- that is not evidence for this public forum you host so graciously. Have a great day, Kym!
Please refrain from replying too much. You are adding coals to the fire. Just stop and go in peace.
I think technically she’s a sociopath
Well…the modern psychologically correct diagnosis is Anti Social Personality Disorder (ASPD). ASPD covers what used to be called psychopathy and sociopathy. They say it runs in our general population possibly up to 5%. Not everybody with ASPD kill other people. But if they did it wouldn’t really bother them. There is no treatment- please don’t think you can heal them.
Yeah, and don’t forget, she was still insisting that she hit a deer when the judge was sentencing her. Right, that’s why you try to implicate your son in the cover-up, because you hit a deer in Fortuna(!?!). Kill her daughter; frame her son. Like I always say, you wanna kill somebody, run ‘em over. Get drunk first. Skate like Hans Brinker.
I know a guy who got 10 years for non-violent over-gardening.
Coke dealers,non natives get 4 months.a vacation.native Americans get 40 years.it’s a resort for white pigs.I should name people
But they’re wealthy east cosy ivy leaguers.they openly sell coke
So basically do the crime for no time, boy things have changed!
The Worst Person In The World…winning! Empty the jails of non-violent offenders, not a POS like her.
She will be among the least dangerous released. Our only benefit for living in a remote area of California is prisoners have to be released in the area of their crime. Many of the serious criminals will be released in the LA area and the Bay area. And supposedly no parolee can leave that area unless they are given permission by the parole agent. I’m sure that will be violated.
she’s extremely dangerous. killed her own kid and didn’t miss a beat. don’t doubt that person is capable of anything.
She is not even on a level of people in Southern California. There are people who killed their entire family and the family dog. And with a semi automatic hand gun. And some stories are even worse. Kitchen on a scale from one to ten is a four. Entire family and a dog is an eight. And there are worse in levels eight to ten. Like Charlie Manson. 1740 Californians were murdered with a weapon in 2019. Fifty-six percent lived in the greater LA area. Kitchen committed a terrible thing while she was drunk. But she didn’t go out that night with the intent with running over her daughter and the other girl. The worst are intent to take a life and plan how to do it, then murder the person(s).
There is enough hate in this county to make Kitchen’s life worse than prison.
Two years.
We don’t like it when people kill kids and take a walk after two years.
Welcome to the county.
If you were in her place wouldn’t you walk too. She is not being asked to leave prison. She is being told to leave prison. I’m sure people in LA don’t want their children killed. But there it happens everyday all year. Welcome to reality.
Saying that was not a personal criticism. It was a critcism of the government that makes those sort of rules. There’s plenty beside that to lay at Kitchen’s door personally. Her behavior was a series of failures- she got drunk, she drove, she hit two children, she ran away, she lied about it and tried to get others to lie, she obfuscated her crimes and caused much public misery and expense to do so. And there is zero evidence she will do any better upon release.
Marci, is that you?
First of all, you give statistics without providing a source. Second, you give misleading statistics by not providing basic information necessary to make any inferences.
The first issue is self-explanatory. As for the second, you don’t state what you consider the “greater LA area” and provide some per capita reference. Los Angeles county contains 1/4 of the states population, but if you include Ventura, Orange, Riverside and San Bernardino counties they account for nearly 50% of the states population (census.gov). You also do not state how many specific incidents account for the “1740 Californians” murdered.
Lastly, LA and other urban areas of CA do not hold a monopoly on abhorrent crime; however, it doesn’t really matter if there are worse crimes out there, two years is a totally inadequate sentence for this particular crime and attempted cover-up!
Agree!
Don’t forget Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, and the like. Nothing they did change the horror Ms Kitchen inflicted out of, first, neglect, then malice.
Exile her.
You make a good case except the part about not going out at night looking for trouble. If Kitchen was out driving drunk, THAT is looking for trouble. Sorry to pop your bubble. No sale, regardless, on your effort, but a seriously good try to justify two lousy years. As Ullr says, why not list everybody else; Attila the Hun, Charlemagne, several Popes, the list goes on? For sure, juicers are a tight-knit lot. Any excuse will do. Wish I had thought of that. See Judge, Vlad the Impaler killed thousands on sharp stakes so just forget about my two hundred lousy starts, OK? You betcha.
For one thing the “other girl” had a name its Faith! She is greatly missed!! And to think that Bitch can take 2 innocent lives the way she did. Then try to hide the fact. Go on vacation after wards. Fight her ex over the remains of their daughter. Put so many family and friends through hell trying to get justice. She is sentenced to a mere 8 years gets early release because of covid19. Living 3 miles away from Faiths mother step father and siblings right now until she is returned here real soon. So family can accidently run into her at a store or any where and have that anxiety. Is beyond fucked up. California’s Governor has fucked up. Releasing due to covid19. Kim we spoke on the phone the other night regarding this and i do thank you for handling this story the way you have..thank you you know what and why i say this.
How could anyone be sure there was no intent?
I always figured that was a hypothetically very real possibility.
It would explain so much.
The unanswered hypothetical question would be, why?
No telling now… , would be the hypothetical answer.
I would hypothetically give her a nine or ten for it being a possible Cold Blooded hit and run with intent if that was the case.
If I’m not mistaken, she didn’t even report it or otherwise render aid.
More than just a coincidence.
Deer My Ass.
Hypothetically.
I remember when this first happenned, in one of the articles written by one of the newspapers, the man with Marci said that upon seeing Kiya and Faith walking down the road, she made some derogatory comment about them, as they were wearing bathing suits. I can’t remember what the exact quote was, but it was along the lines of , ‘Omg, look at those sluts!’ Really, I almost threw up when I read it, and I’ve always believed there was intent, she is a sick, sociopathic, demented human being! Why was that not brought up in the Courtroom, why did his statement just disappear, and why was he not put on the stand, he was with her in the vehicle when she ran those poor girls over!? This whole case ripped my heart wide open, my Daughter knew Faith and said she was the sweetest Soul ever! Rest in Eternal Peace, Kiya & Faith, I’m so sorry your lives were cut short, you are forever Loved and Missed.. 🙏♥️😢
WHY EITHER ONE ???
Just in time for the harvest.
Kym can you post information where we can write or email to protest this? Do we write Newsom’s office? Humboldt county Da?
Thank our governor. What a loser. He needs to be taken out of office before he completely destroys California.
maybe this will help. blaming elected officials for the problems a community has created and fostered gets old.
“Overview of prison inmate release responses to the coronavirus
As of July 1:
Twenty-one states had released inmates at the state level
Twelve states had released inmates on the local level
Eleven states had not released inmates due to coronavirus
Two states had prohibited the release of certain inmate populations
Four states had temporarily released certain populations of inmates”
Wow – wondering how that “temporary release” pans out….
You may want to think about moving then! They say Alabama or Florida are great for your type of folks!
So violent prisoners in the same building is not safe but kids in a classroom is. *scratching my head*
There isn’t really a correlation. Corrections and DA have no traction with public health. Call it, life and justice in the time of Covid 19. I do think she should not be released here.
so buildings with similar air circulation systems have no correlation?
Very good point.. NoBody..!!!
Absolutely digusting…the family still in pain and now they have to watch her walk around in our community. Parole her in Oakland and see how they deal with this. I do believe in 2nd chances but how bout her paying her actions to society and the families that she impacted first.
I’m sure Kym didn’t see your comment yet. You should withdraw it. What condition either mental or legal will you be in if she is murdered, and you or someone else feels you contributed to the murder?
Remember all of this stuff when newsome comes up for re-election. Releasing felons, not prosecuting drug dealers, people being released with 6 frigging pounds of heroin! You go Democrats, this is your idea of utopia!
Yeah! Looks like a golden opportunity for Scott Baio as Republican candidate for governor. Hasn’t had a decent gig since Dick Clark died and trump didn’t think he was in charge enough for a Cabinet position. Maybe Louie Gohmert, if he gets over the covid, would make a great governor, or, the other Hunter, Duncan Hunter, as soon as he gets out of prison for campaign fraud – if he isn’t out already due to Newsome’s terrible covid/ prison release program. Republican possibilities are endless
So we should vote for garbage because you don’t like some other people? Your thinking exhibits symptoms of being disordered.
They are all garbage (Republican or Democrat), but the problem is that rural California counties don’t elect statewide leaders due to population distribution. So, either get used to it, or leave, because you can’t beat the super-majority of the progressives from Marin to LA county plus Sacramento. So, you are stuck with liberal policies from the left without any balancing from the right driving a more centrist policy.
It’s the same in Oregon. Over 2/3rds of the state is in one Congressional District. There are 4 in the other third. Thing is, that is land, not people.
In the huge district is one huge county, the biggest in Oregon, 10th largest in the country, Harney, made famous by the Bundy idiots. There are around 7500 people in just over 10,000 square miles (makes Trinity County look “full” 🙂 ). The smallest county in Oregon is 466 square miles, with over 800,000 people in it. While being the smallest county in size, it is the largest in population.
The majority rules. It’s like that in every state. There can’t be a “balance”, because there is no legitimate balance to be had.
Full disclosure, I don’t live in either county. I live in a smallish county of 50K hours away from the PDX metro area.
Cal is a Lollypop state.
Lollypops can’t do the math
a dog can do:
WRONG DOING = PAIN
A dog is smarter than a liberal !!!
(BTW, i’m of no party.)
Kym Kemp is an enabler in all of this bullshit. People shooting at people and getting patted on the back for surrendering, people running over their own children and someone else’s, and the list goes infinitum. Give me a break.
Exactly how is Kym “enabling” this by reporting it?
How is she an enabler? Now Fox News, that’s the real propaganda machine, I mean enabler.
You forgot about CNN, MSNBC and a few of the other alphabet channels.
Agree Kym is not “enabling” anything here, just reporting…but if you simply dismiss Fox News as propaganda, you have to be fair and include CNN and MSNBC in that statement.
To be fair, it is the political pundits that need to be included from all channels. Even Fox and CNN have real journalists that do their best to maintain impartiality.
If reporters report exactly what trump is saying and doing, same with anyone, then it is not propaganda. Yes, Trump displays his idiocy almost hourly now. Republicans jumpin’-up-and-down can’t change Trump’s incompetence. If Biden mis-pronounces “Thailand”, you can report it. BFD.
If they only reported precisely. But what they report is taken out of contest and deliberately misconstrued to make fit their beliefs. Sort of like that whole comment. It is the glee with which they- and apparently you- make mountains out of molehills when it comes to personal enmity but are totally silent when it’s convenient if it is a failure of the supported. So he mispronounced “Thailand” as if no one else had ever misspoke in a speech before. Sheesh- if Trump’s haters were not so irrational, such low levels of debate would not happen as this.
It is like Kym contradicting a complaint of the press allowing Obama to go uncriticized while obsessing over any misstep of Trump. She linked to an article where the press criticized the color of his suit as proof. Sort of an opposite of damning by faint praise to hold that up as press criticism when things like his repeared “legislation by executive order” or outright untruths like “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor” are studiously avoided. Oh yeah- like the press viciously attacks Obama because of his suit color. GMAB
I’m going to regret this because you twist what is said to fit your own agenda as is evidenced by this post. I was using the Obama suit story to show how little it took for Obama to get criticized. If Obama had suggested grabbing a woman’s pussy was a great idea, he’d have been crucified.
Here’s the Washington Post criticizing Obama: Straight news article talking about his elitism–https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/04/12/ST2008041200232.html
The Economist https://www.economist.com/books-and-arts/2008/09/18/heres-looking-at-you-kid
But Obama was criticized less by the liberal media than Trump is. And Trump is criticized less by the conservative media than Obama was. Fairly natural as their politics align.
In addition, I do think, and I’m sure you disagree, that Obama while definitely guilty of some bad decisions is not as frequently guilty of the crime of looking ridiculous as President Trump is. It’s easier to definitively say that grabbing pussy is a terrible sentiment and a lot harder to articulate that Obama using the Executive Order in massive numbers is a frightening precedent. The latter requires some understanding of the US Government and how it works to both explain and to comprehend, while understanding the wrongness in Trump’s statement just requires human decency. And frequently, in my opinion, Trump violates the standards of human decency while Obama gave warm examples of humanity–his obvious love of his wife and daughters, his sense of humor, his ability to say the compassionate word, his intelligence, and his articulate voice are not, again in my opinion, matched by the crude, cruel man we now have as a president.
Also, I couldn’t resist this: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=621878232064349
So you think an example of Fox pundits being as petty and biased about Obama as the press in general is about Trump doesn’t prove my point about the hatefulness? And it’s contribution to the acidity of American self mutilation? Really?
This comment is not “twisting” anything but dereliction of duty in the press towards facing a mirror. Fox has a bad reputation not because it is conservative but because it slants everything to an agenda. Why hold to the idea that two bad examples make one right just because they get it wrong in opposite directions?
And this is what I mean about you twisting. I find you so determined to be outraged about what I say, that you have me saying things I never said.
I am not a fan of sneering at either man over the way they pronounce a word, ask for an umbrella when it’s raining, or taking something meant obviously as a joke and acting as if it were meant seriously.
But you said that Obama was given a pass by the press and Trump was vilified. And I presented evidence that Obama was also criticized harshly over stupid things.
That does not mean I approve of it.
Look, I find you intelligent and you often offer a perspective I hadn’t thought of. But I also find you are hyper partisan and willing to attack when there was no offense meant.
I’d like to share ideas and understand your views but I don’t like having my words twisted.
I suspect that my directness here will further anger you. I hope not because I do read every one of your comments looking for new ways of viewing what is happening in the world.
I complain about the press twisting to suit and you respond that I twist things. And then proceed to affirm my complaint with further emotion. You have a perfect right to feel what you want about Trump. Trump is unlikable. Obama was much easier in that regard. It however is not the point. The issue is whether liking or disliking results in skewed understanding and actions. In other words reporting ( or in LCO’s remarks) the irrationality of excessive reliance on emotions creates foolish, deliberate distortions yet they are still believed to be proofs. So what if Trump mispronounced Thailand. It is a common, almost everyone has done it mistake that certainly does not prove what LCO thinks it does and it becomes the stupidest of issues to talk about. So what if Trump talked trash decades before he was elected. It’s not Trump’s vulgarity that makes him the target of the press’s abuse. A grown up reporter has certainly heard worse and seen worse put into action by numerous politicians. It’s focussing constantly on trivial things that end up creating hysteria over nothing from face masks and the flu equivalence to international relations- in fact such hysteria has become a joke called Trump Derangement Syndrome marked by its very emotionalism.
What as a professional you do not have the right to do is expect to your feelings to control what you report and expect no one should be allowed to remark on it. Obama’s use of EO rather than political accommodation was worse by far than Trump’s crude comments. More insidious and damaging than any ridiculous rant of Trump and meaner by far in his contempt of others’ ability to understand him. (BTW the link you provided is no available for me to read.) Both are highly insecure, defensive people but the press still acts on its internal emotions that criticising Obama makes them look bad no matter how merited while there is no inherited low they can stoop to in insulting Trump that will do the same. “Elitism” my foot. That is just more of same praising with faint criticism.
As long as the discussion revolves around pussies and emotions, nothing of substance can be changed. That is my criticism of the press- who ought to be able to articulate government “wrongness” yet can’t rise above pussy-grabbing. Not liberal or conservative. Any consideration of conservative public opinion would find opinion about Trump is not good there either. If Trump’s unprofessional as President, the expressed contempt of the press for non far left opinion is equally unprofessional. I could stand for both to improve. You may consider any deviation from superficial Trump bashing as”twisting” but I consider the press’s being unable to rise above it as twisted from the start. Let me know when you want to discuss government or politics or even Trump without getting hung up on pussies. Until then it’s all twisted. And why enough people voted for Trump to get him elected in the first place. And why some will stick with him now and others can’t nominate a better Democrat ticket than Harris for eventual President.
Not enough troll material for you? You need to kick Kym to the curb to rile some people up? Bored with perpetrating stupid shit about Covid?
God you’re pathetic.
So you’re saying she should just be allowed to slink off in the shadows and Kym shouldn’t report it? The bliss of ignorance.
There’s a reason why Jefferson, if forced to choose between government or a free-press would have chosen the free press. Kym or anyone else in the media must report the news good or bad so we know what’s right and what is wrong and must change. She is not enabling. You can’t improve society if you don’t know what is wrong. Sweeping problems under the rug IS enabling.
Ffs you people are dumb asf….. Exactly when in the day does cognitive thinking begin and end with you idiots? Or you just need to get back on your meds? The only people enabling anything are the liberal voting majority that keeps passing these laws, and playing judge and jury like grusome!
Ok, get an f’in grip! Try living in a state with an ultra-conservative super-majority and see how fucked up that can be. It’s not one OR the other that is the issue (they’re both equally screwing society), it is the lack of balance and collaborative effort for the benefit of the populous.
Defund the humboldt county court system. Just put up a sign at the front door that says “sorry for the inconvenience”
You need to research what is meant by “defunding” and what is proposed because you say ignorant things about it every day.
Go ahead, it won’t hurt you.
humboldts the prime example of your goal. Ahead of the no bail system, wastes money on mental health services, doesn’t prosecute petty crime, short sentences for serious crime, won’t put wade Harris in jail, won’t keep Marci I’m jail, don’t get mad at me because you aren’t happy with the fruits of your labor.
I guess murdering two kids don’t count for much jail time. So If you want to get away with murdering some one get drunk and hit them with a car. Sounds like you can kill two for jail time for one . This is so %$#@ up
Yes, it is.
Marci kitchens has killed 50 percent as many people in this county as the coronavirus has. If we all have to wear a mask statically speaking no one should leave their house out of fear by being run over by Marci.
Great comment – don’t forget the “… that we know of.” Has Marci Kitchen, convicted killer of two, killed any others? I can think of a few unsolved hit and runs around the county worth a look.
Meaning what? You’re comparing DUI killing of two girls with a pandemic? You’re saying that Marci has killed half as many people (50%) in this country as Covid-19? That is multiple thousands, almost one a minute. One busy gal. Might get parole revoked. No wonder the country is going to hell. Ah dreamed ah was there, in hillbilly hell. Now there’s a song! Come on lyricists!
County vs country. Stupid letters.
Worse are the people who think that catching a typo is proof the invalidity of the comment.
It’s pretty relevant if it’s the difference between 4 and 165k deaths. You see reading comprehension is incredibly important when it comes to math and insulting people on the internet. 2020’s motto should be “I’m offended and I don’t know why!”
You’d think that the jarring difference would make a person go back and reread what was said. But it does not seem to do that.
Isn’t a state run by Liberals a wonderful sight to behold? TRUMP 2020!
What a joke.
Better than senile Biden and wicked witch Harris.
Trump, the mental midget, is worried.. very worried….😀
Yet your remarks spew intelligence. Please enlighten us some more as to YOUR stable genius.
Witch? I think your misogyny is showing.
That’s right. With Trump it’s warlock, the male version. Warlock hunt.
Death and Disease 2020!
So she got the new job the same way she got all the others?
Bingo! Lot of neat memes going around now. Willie Brown thrived with Kamala working under him. Maybe Sleepy Joe hit a home run with this pick! Bwaaaaahaaaaha!!
The interesting part for me is that she wasn’t worthy of the party’s nomination for president, but she’s worthy for VP behind Biden, and Bidens mind has Zero chance of lasting 4 years. So essentially she’ll be president by proxy. Even though she’s not worthy of being president. I get lost in the circular logic.
I understand they want Kamala to do most of the speaking for Biden, so he can stay in the basement. Biden barely treads water when READING FROM A SCRIPT! Wouldn’t it be nice to get to know their candidate? Bwaaaahahaaaa!#Stufftheballotbox
Even the bumper stickers will say Harris/Biden 2020. In that order
Shall we discuss Trumps record of being a sexual predator? Or would you care to discuss that he wishes his pedo pal Ghislaine Maxwell “well”? Shall we discuss Stormy Daniels or how about how Trump cheated on his first wife with his second wife and cheated on his second wife with his third wife that he met thru pedo pal Jeffrey Epstein and then had to pay off women that he fucked while married to Melania while running for president. Or how about we discuss his sexual obsession with his daughter?
So hilarious your taking cheap shots at Kamala when your guy in the White House has been a sexual predator his whole adult life. Friggin hypocrites
TRUMP / PUTIN 2020 – Then there’s these yahoos at a trump rally wearing t-shirts that said; I’d rather be Russian then a Democrat! Move already!
Harris/Biden in 2021?
Doesn’t seem much like justice.
it’s not. the problem is that if our institutions of justice fail then people will end up taking matters of justice into their own hands. that is why we agree to have this handled by our justices system and why such failures are inexcusable. Marci Kitchen earned a long sentence for her crimes but not the death penalty – left out on the street and subject to the independent judiciary she may not be so lucky. As satisfying as it may be to see, ultimately that is bad for all of us.
Agreed
Talk about really getting off easy.
Have you ever done two years of time? I haven’t. But I doubt it qualifies as easy.
Oh, puhleeeeze. No bleeding heart sympathy for this one.
Thank newsom for that. A lot criminals will be hitting the streets and probably commit more crimes.what next governor newsom.police catch them and you let them go. You’re no better than trump. It’s sucking
Really disgusting. I have a friend who killed two people in a drunk driving accident and he did 85% of a 8 year sentence and received two strikes in the process. This woman should be kept for every second legally allowed for whatever her plea bargain was not given preferential treatment
are the two children she killed going to get early release from their grave due to coved? Unbelieveable.
well said
Fortuna won’t welcome the killer back. She’ll need to settle down in Mattole where she hid out and partied before.
Maybe the Alderpoint 8 could help, at least those who are still around.
This is always the problem. The perp is alive and able to cry, cry, cry and moan and writhe and her keepers bought it. The victims are dead and gone; out of sight, out of mind except to those who loved them.
I would wager that they are already very free and enjoying eternity.
I suppose I didn’t follow this case closely enough. I understand Marci was driving under the influence. I understand her child and a close family member or friend were both killed as a result of her error in judgment. I’m trying to understand why the public thinks Marci was given favoritism. Is she wealthy? Is she a relative of a prominent politician. Does she own a lot of property? Did she have a long rap sheet prior to this tragedy?
Please enlighten me. Thank you
There are plenty of links below the story that you can research.
I think it was because she is woman plain and simple. A man would have likely gotten twice the time
She killed two kids going down the street while driving drunk, one was HER own, then ran and tried to cover up the situation. She was out free from jail for ages and taking international vacations. No remorse. Her own teenage son had to rat on her (good kid).
A real piece of work. We gain nothing by letting her walk. I don’t care one bit if she gets sick and dies in jail.
This just encourages people to drink and drive and kill children. Bravo system bravo.thank goodness they don’t imprison people for cannabis.
How? She did two years time and will have this over her head forever.
Encouraging would be if they incentivized her to do it again, which they’ve not done.
While I abhor what she’s done, ignoring the hard time she’s already done, as well as the likely mental anguish (one can hope) isn’t helping anybody.
But hey, if rage porn is your thing, rage on.
2 years of “hard time” in chowchilla”? Unlikely. We’re not talking about chain gangs here
@Thesteve4761: I understand the point you are trying to make, but most just don’t feel like two years in prison is enough for taking the lives of two children, especially given there has been no show of remorse. As a parent I cannot imagine living with myself after taking the life of my child, let alone going on a vacation to Mexico.
Yet, while I agree with 100% of what you say Marc, there’s still no argument to be made that letting her out is encouraging. She did in fact do two years, did she not?
This is stunning……. yes, better not to come back to Humboldt. Our values are simple and they include reverence for life and family and friends. Psychopaths are a mystery to those with empathy. How? How? How? How could anyone be so cold blooded? It infuriates the most sanguine among us.
Ms Kitchen has done very little hard time, and only spent 2-3 months in Prison before being transferred to a Sunny San Diego work-release facility, where she’s been ever since.
Her current location is “Custody to Community Transitional Reentry Program San Diego”.
A quick Google search lists several stories about inmates who walked away from this delightful facility after removing their ankle bracelets, and not showing up for their job in a local restaurant.
She probably only had time for one prison tattoo? This state is gross
HAHAHA! Good one!
Okay what if she were BLACK or NATIVE AMERICAN??
Though I am not sure what BLM has to do with this situation, what exactly is your point? I can’t tell if you are asking a serious question, or being antagonistic.
I think it’s important to forgive people who make terrible mistakes. I’m sure she feels worse than anyone about this. Forgiveness is hard but it’s what a certain radical guy named Jesus who lived many years ago would have counciled this angry mob of righteous commenters.
The Bible is about atoning or at least being somewhat remorseful for your sins. Forgiveness isnt given unless you at least ask for it. Somehow I doubt Jesus would be on Marci’s side given all her actions afterwards. By that logic once Jeffery dahmer was in jail he was an ok dude because he wasn’t eating people anymore, not that he wasnt sorry for what he had done.
You aren’t very familiar with Jesus’ words. You confuse religious words like atonement and remorse. That’s not what he taught, not at all.
You’re joking right? You don’t have to repent and ask forgiveness in Christianity? whooooo-eeeeeeeeeee doggggies! And all this time I thought: What if I’m wrong? What if the Bible miasma is really true? What if Trump and Hannity and the Trump Christians are going to heaven and I’m going to hell somewhere? WTF? Destroy America and go to heaven with Putin. Who knew? Thanks for letting me off the hook! I’ll smoke to that. Talk to you later.
Jesus’ teachings and the Bible are two different things. Jesus was just a guy who preached forgiveness and love for your neighbors no matter how low they have sunk, or if they have hurt you. I think his words bring out the best in people; which is something many commenters here could use.
I would guess the point is that each person will face God alone and if they have not repented and asked His forgiveness then they will spend eternity in a place where God’s love and forgiveness won’t be. We cannot be more concerned with what one person does with God than what WE do with God. In addition to my repenting and asking for forgiveness from God and others who I have wronged, the good book and Jesus, both tell me that I MUST forgive others their wrong doing. It doesn’t mean I forget about it, or that I let them back into my life, but it means I RELEASE them from owing me something they can not repay. I release them into their own relationship with God to repent and find peace (hopefully). I release myself from holding a grudge of hate that in reality only holds me in a prison of my own making. If anyone wants to understand what Jesus says about forgiveness in order to free themselves then read the gospel story of the servant who was forgiven of much, but wouldn’t forgive others what they owed to him. Someone also rightly said, forgive others as fast as you hope God will forgive you, and if we don’t think we have anything much to be forgiven of, just remember how many times we’ve taken Jesus’ death for our sins and unbelief for granted.
Have you ever driven home a few miles after a drink or two?
Yeah, Jesus was all like, “just run over your kid and not care, that shits like totally cool!” I’ve been to church allot, and all I have to say is that I hope you have no involvement in it at all. One could simplify his teachings by basically saying, just be a good person. And on that one alone your comment is incorrect or irrelevant
Remember that time Jesus got all pissed up and ran over two kids with an ox cart?
As he walked away from the crash scene, he allegedly said, “Judge not lest ye be judged bitches.”
I miss that guy. He really knew how to party.
Seeing ourselves and others as a good or a bad person is really prideful, and not at all what Jesus hopes for us. I’d skip church to read His words in the Bible any day.
Willow creeper, she learned nothing from her “mistake”. She was seen in several bars intoxicated and when she left she was driving
Nope not going to do it sorry willowcreeker ain’t going to happen
Once agiain this place weird and all fucked up. I feel bad for the people that have lived here when it was cool. Can’t wait to establish a business somewhere else and yeah I’ll pack tmrw before you say it but I’m hoping it gets better for my granddaughter. ..feel bad for the people that have lived here a long time as it seems like it was once great but humans definitely have fucked it all up. I’m very aware of crime and trends regarding from having lived in areas that are prevalent for that. This place weird and the negative energy coming from the land itself (which isn’t happy, the land) is almost oppressive. I have grown weed. Simplest project ever. I think there’s a waaaasy bigger problem. But go figure. I’ve met people in Arkansas that’ll tell you how great it is. Cept they don’t say hella or call you boss or Dog. This place is bereft of education and the whole Manson family vibe is clear. I feel bad for y’all that saw it before usurpers and perhaps your own family members started fucking it up by ruining what was probably cool via greed and drugs. Weep for the future in an otherwise beautiful place. Neck tattoo shops will probably thrive tho
Arkansas is widely known for its sophisticated culture.
You forgot the “/s” for sarcasm!
For one thing the “other girl” had a name its Faith! She is greatly missed!! And to think that Bitch can take 2 innocent lives the way she did. Then try to hide the fact. Go on vacation after wards. Fight her ex over the remains of their daughter. Put so many family and friends through hell trying to get justice. She is sentenced to a mere 8 years gets early release because of covid19. Living 3 miles away from Faiths mother step father and siblings right now until she is returned here real soon. So family can accidently run into her at a store or any where and have that anxiety. Is beyond fucked up. California’s Governor has fucked up. Releasing due to covid19. Kim we spoke on the phone the other night regarding this and i do thank you for handling this story the way you have..thank you you know what and why i say this.
Lots of love out to you Irene A. and to your family…
…and the prison she’ll never escape. The murder of her own daughter and another innocent. Did you hear about the black man that’s being released in Louisiana after serving 22 years of a life conviction for selling .69 gram of bud to an undercover cop??? Where is justice in AmeriKKKa?
Please provide a link to news article on that. I think it’s an old wives story among pot lovers and never really happened. Usually in such conviction allegations, pot turns out to be just part of charges against a habitual offended.
I don’t know about the story Coyote referenced but Patricia Spotted Crow was sentenced to 12 years in prison for $31 worth of marijuana. It was her first offense for anything. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/09/12/patricia-spottedcrow-marijuana-year-sentence/
Thank you for that information on Spotted Crow. And all else as well. It’s been a common falsehood (meme/trope, aargh) for decades that marijuana busts are no big deal and lives are seldom ruined or hampered unduly over non-violent pot busts so ha, ha, ho, ho Drug War City.
When you compare sentencing for weed crimes versus killing and maiming, it’s a shock.
This is appalling. Kitchen is a violent criminal as is Ryder Stapp. Are they going to turn him loose as well so he can get drunk and kill again? I suggest letting Governor Newsom know how you feel. You might ask him how he would feel if Kitchen had killed his loved one. Horrifying thought, isn’t it?
To anyone who thinks she should be released, are you going to let her babysit your children?
Where is the proof she was intoxicated when she ran them over?
An admission? A witness?
That could have worked in her favor, because if she was sober it would have looked much worse, actually.
She could have gotten shitfaced drunk after it happened for sure.
Since she ran away, some would say that conveniently there’s no proof. Likely there was testimony from people who witnessed her drinking before she drove though.
Seems to be a common trope/meme (you pick) in some defenders of Kitchen that somehow, some way, being drunk when you kill or maim people is exculpatory. Like, wow, you know, s/he wasn’t “looking for trouble”. See, if you’re sober when you drive over skateboarding children, that means you’re super-mean. If you’re drunk, you didn’t know what you were doing. No problemo. Up is down, in is out, right is wrong.
This is sickning,I bet she will still be driveing to.