Student Unrest 54 Years Apart: Cal Poly Humboldt Protests Echo Historic Campus Activism

Students protesting Saturday at Cal Poly Humboldt.

Students protesting Saturday at Cal Poly Humboldt. [Screenshot of video by Ryan Hutson]

At Cal Poly Humboldt this last week, the students’ protest against the war in Gaza has grown. Students have been actively demonstrating since last Monday, occupying Siemens Hall in a stance against university policies and international issues, particularly around the Israel-Hamas war. The university has responded by closing the campus (though mostly people have been free to walk through and speak with the protesters and even law enforcement).

Pro Palestinian protest at Cal Poly Humboldt

Protester leading chants at the Cal Poly Humboldt campus Monday evening. [Photo by Mark McKenna]

All classes were moved to online due to safety concerns​ expressed by the University and administration claims, “While it’s too early to assess the cost of illegal activities, we estimate it to be in the millions. That includes damage done by theft, vandalism and graffiti, and the supplies and personnel needed to repair that, in addition to the loss of revenue from disruption to University operations.”

Graffiti partially painted over on the Cal Poly Campus.

Graffiti partially painted over on the Cal Poly Campus. [Photo by Ryan Hutson]

The protest at Cal Poly led to confrontations with law enforcement who were called to manage the situation.

The police response has included the assembly of officers from multiple agencies including state police. One clash captured by our reporter Ryan Hutson has received national attention.

The protesters say they want transparency about how the university handles its financial ties and relationships with Israeli institutions, and they’re pushing for a divestment from Israel. But this isn’t just about those issues. This protest is part of a larger tradition of campus activism where students leverage their collective voice to instigate real change on global issues.

The ongoing protests at Cal Poly Humboldt, and similar movements elsewhere, are drawing comparisons to the iconic campus demonstrations against the Vietnam War. Although each movement is unique in its own right, they share a common thread: they highlight the powerful impact of student activism on shaping policy and sparking wider societal discussions.

Pro Palestinian protest at Cal Poly Humboldt

A student’s fist rises above a wall of law enforcement at Monday’s protest on the campus of Cal Poly Humboldt. [Photo by Mark McKenna]

The protesters locally have been voicing their concerns loudly for a week. They’ve been occupying as well as damaging campus property which echoes back to the tumultuous 1970 anti-war protests catalyzed by the tragic shootings at Kent State University which left four dead and more wounded.

Akron Beacon Journal Front page

Kent State shootings as shown on the Akron Beacon Journal Front page on May 5. [Screenshot cropped]

The tragic events at Kent State in 1970 provides a somber reminder of the human costs of these protests. Alison Krause, one of the four students killed by the Ohio National Guard during the protests, became a symbol of the dangers inherent in militarized responses to campus demonstrations. Her sister, Laurel Krause, has since been an outspoken advocate against militarized policing on campuses. On April 24 she wrote a statement aimed at the response to the occupation of Columbia University. Late Saturday, she provided us with a statement about the Cal Poly Humboldt protests. In both statements, she vehemently criticizes the approach of bringing armed forces to manage student protests:

“On May 4, 1970, my sister Allison Krause was killed by the Ohio National Guard on the campus of Kent State University as she protested against the Vietnam war and Cambodian invasion. Three other students were shot dead that day by guardsmen and many other students were injured. As the family member of a peaceful student protester killed by the state, I am aghast at the way that Columbia University President Minouche Shafik, along with administrators at other U.S. institutions of higher education, have endangered the lives and well-being of student protesters by inviting militarized police onto campuses to disperse protesters.” – Laurel Krause

Krause’s statement addressed the Cal Poly Humboldt administration,

I urge President Jackson, along with administrators at other U.S. institutions of higher education, to protect the lives, human rights and well-being of student protesters, and for administrators to refrain from inviting militarized police onto campuses to disperse protesters and close the campus. (See below for the full statement)

Pro Palestinian protest at Cal Poly Humboldt

Protesters stood toe to toe with law enforcement as dark fell on Monday’s Pro Palestinian protests/occupation of Seimens Hall at Cal Poly Humboldt. [Photo by Mark McKenna]

Krause’s words underscore the possibility of a tragic outcome similar to that at Kent State which galvanized anti-war protests across the nation. Educational institutions and students need to work toward dialogue and peaceful protest without resorting to violence on either side. Krause argues that the administration needs to use restraint:

In 1970 failures of Kent State University leadership enabled the massacre which left ‘Four Dead in Ohio.’ Our institutions must learn from these past mistakes and not use militarized responses against unarmed, peaceful student protesters by calling in the National Guard, bringing in State Troopers or deploying Police in riot gear.

We must not repeat the horrors of Kent State 54 years later.” 

In an interesting juxtaposition, the current protests at Cal Poly Humboldt began with students occupying a university building, named after Cornelius Siemens, the president of the institution during the Vietnam War era.

Protesters have removed Siemen's name from the building they are protesting in and added graffiti.

Protesters have removed Siemen’s name from the building they are protesting in and added graffiti. [Cropped from a video by Ryan Hutson]

During his tenure, Siemens wrote a letter to President Nixon*, expressing his and the college community’s disillusionment with the government’s decision to invade Vietnam and highlighting a desire for peace among most students at that time. His words from decades ago seem relevant today:

“As president of Humboldt State College, I implore you to consult with the mainstream of our responsible college youth and to attempt an understanding of their widespread, deep-seated desire for peace. The Cambodian decision is causing the most serious and disturbing concern and dismay. Personally, I am disillusioned and disappointed that the war has widened instead of coming to a close. The college community now needs fully justifiable acts and assurances to maintain or regain its faith in national leadership and to dispel its feeling of futility.” – Cornelius Siemens

Siemen’s letter mirrors the current cries for peace among students at Cal Poly Humboldt, albeit under different circumstances. But the issues for both eras involve distant wars and administrative decisions and how they could affect the students’ lives as residents of the United States.

The similarities between the protests at Cal Poly Humboldt today and those at Kent State over half a century ago underscore a continuous struggle for student rights and the university’s need to provide a safe place to study. And both times show how student activism shapes not only academic but also global discourse.

As we look at Cal Poly Humboldt today, the administration decrying the damage not just to property but to the needs of other students, Cornelius Siemens’ advocacy for peaceful resolution, and Laurel Krause’s warning against militarized responses remind us of the delicate balance between the need to govern to provide for safety of all and the right to protest.

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Laurel Krause’s full statement below:

This time of year is always difficult for me as we near the anniversary of when my beloved sister Allison Krause who was killed on May 4, 1970 at Kent State University by the Ohio National Guard as she protested the Vietnam War and Cambodian invasion. This year is especially challenging when I consider the thousands of peace-loving students who have organized demonstrations on their campuses to demand institutional divestiture from weapons manufacturers and Israel’s ongoing genocide in Gaza. 

Like Allison’s memory, the North Coast of California is very special to me. The Allison Center for Peace is located in neighboring Mendocino county where I have made my home for 20 years. 

I am deeply moved by the students of Humboldt Cal Poly who have occupied physical space on their campus to demand an immediate, permanent ceasefire in Gaza and divestiture.

These students represent the best of us. These students are not ‘criminals’ despite what some administrators may have publicly alleged. These students should not be arrested, suspended or sanctioned – instead they must be listened to.

I urge President Jackson, and those in leadership to engage with students, listen to the demands of ALL protesters, to encourage and facilitate zones of free expression, and to support the rights of your students to protest an ongoing genocide on campus without the threat of state violence and militarized force.

I urge President Jackson, along with administrators at other U.S. institutions of higher education, to protect the lives, human rights and well-being of student protesters, and for administrators to refrain from inviting militarized police onto campuses to disperse protesters and close the campus.

“In 1970 failures of Kent State University leadership enabled the massacre which left ‘Four Dead in Ohio.’ Our institutions must learn from these past mistakes and not use militarized responses against unarmed, peaceful student protesters by calling in the National Guard, bringing in State Troopers or deploying Police in riot gear.

We must not repeat the horrors of Kent State 54 years later.” 

— from Laurel Krause, co-founder of the Kent State Truth Tribunal and the Allison Center for Peace www.TruthTribunal.org, April 27, 2024

Hat tip to Bob Doran who first posted about Cornelius Siemen’s letter here.

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Richard
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Richard
2 years ago

I’m sick of this. I have no sympathy for these protesters and I will vote accordingly in November. The law and order candidates will get my vote.

Truth Be Told
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Truth Be Told
2 years ago
Reply to  Richard

But Kym has certainly given it the old college try in her rhetorical attempts to link the current situation with the Kent State massacre. Anything to get comments I suppose.

Steve Koch
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Steve Koch
2 years ago
Reply to  Truth Be Told

That is a little harsh.

Seems very likely that Kym truly believes in what she says and is not saying it to get clicks.

I frequently disagree with Kym’s opinions but I don’t doubt her sincerity.

Yabut
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Yabut
2 years ago
Reply to  Steve Koch

Well that’s okay then. Really, if true belief is the standard for tolerance, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, and drug cartels all should find tolerance. And no, these ptotestors are not the best among us. Some may be but some are idiots.
Doing nothing is not an option. For either side. In fact a protest is rarely a matter of endurance. It’s a matter of pushing until the goal has been achieved or exhaustion has ended it.
There were months of preceding and escalating violence and threats from students preceding the shooting. The shooting was indiscriminate and wrong. But it was that is why rhetoric needs less empathy and be of cooler judgement.
“Some students who had retreated beyond the practice field fence obtained rocks and possibly other objects with which they again began pelting the guardsmen. The number of rock throwers is unknown, with estimates of 10–50 throwers. According to an FBI assessment, rock-throwing peaked at this point. Tear gas was again fired at crowds at multiple locations.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

willow creeker
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2 years ago
Reply to  Truth Be Told

And yet here you are, reading and commenting.

Wake up
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Wake up
2 years ago
Reply to  Truth Be Told

The real difference is we were involved in the Vietnam war

ernestine
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ernestine
2 years ago
Reply to  Wake up

FWIW, we are involved here too. the Palestinians see the Israelis shooting them with American guns out of American jeeps. It is our money that allows the Israelis to keep Palestinians in apartheid conditions.
So these girls aren’t protesting because they might have to go to war, but because they feel the whole things is wrong. Well over 60% of the victims in Palestine are women and children. And the day this started our government gave Israel more “defense” dollars. Debt these kids are on the hook for, distracting government from the climate that they have to endure.
We are definitely involved.

c u 2morrow
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2 years ago
Reply to  Richard

many are.

Country Joe
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2 years ago
Reply to  Richard

The only possible way to make significant and positive change in California is to vote Republican across the board in November or be prepared for more of the same failures.

Patriot in Willits
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Patriot in Willits
2 years ago
Reply to  Country Joe

I really don’t think either party gets my blanket approval. If a republican candidate seems like a better choice, fine, but there’s plenty of political hacks on both sides of the aisle.

Humboldtian
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2 years ago

Renaming of Siemens Hall to “Intifada Hall” is disappointing and shocking to say the least. Any hope for sympathy for their cause is gone as they advocate for violent uprising.

Intifada

: UPRISING, REBELLION
specifically : an armed uprising of Palestinians against Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/intifada

Farce
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Farce
2 years ago
Reply to  Humboldtian

Don’t worry. As soon as they see any real threat to themselves they will fold like the little cowards they are. All bluff and hot air…a temper tantrum of spoiled brats. And they don’t have many people ready to join them as they have somehow managed to alienate the local population full of old hippies and progressives! Pepper spray and tear gas should fix them…and then they will cry over the lack of a safe space. Wimpiest protest ever!

tru matters
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tru matters
2 years ago

It still pisses me off that nobody was held accountable for the Kent State massacre.

Alf
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Alf
2 years ago

Although I understand it’s difficult to lose someone you love, the truth is that if you listen to law enforcement and do what they say, you won’t get hurt. If, while being involved in illegal terrorism such as at CPH, you end up in a life threatening situation by your own choice, then, you get exactly what you have coming.

The reason these “protests” turn into terrorism is because, in the past, groups have gotten away with it. If the communists on the far left weren’t in power and law and order were put back in place, these scumbags would be removed from society at their first criminal act, making these perpetrators think twice before engaging in criminal behavior. It wouldn’t take very many interventions by law enforcement along with real DAs prosecuting to put a stop to it. Unfortunately, we have no real DA here or in most leftist cities and states. Therefore, this is just the start of more and worse acts of domestic terrorism.

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thetallone
2 years ago
Reply to  Alf

Regarding your first sentence, the National Guard at Kent State fired randomly into a large group of students from a considerable distance.
In general, it’s definitely safer to do what law enforcement tells you to do. But there are countless examples to prove that it is not always so.

Alf
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Alf
2 years ago
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I have no problem with the idea there are exceptions. I myself was falsely accused of crime by corrupt EPD officers. I was kidnapped by two of them. They told me if I didn’t come with them they would destroy both of my properties. Was I pissed? Hell yeah! Would I have liked to inflict harm to them? Hell yeah! However, they had guns, backup officers and both properties were crawling with cops. I followed their commands, even though they were committing crimes against me. I am alive. The DA office got the items they stole from me back for me. Both properties were unharmed. Do I still resent bad cops? Yes I do. But overall, most cops have integrity. I don’t know the outcome of both criminal cops, but one of them had to resign in disgrace for his corruption. It was over 10 years later, but at least I didn’t do something stupid like these terrorists at CPH.

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Caretaker
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Caretaker
2 years ago

So folks are perfectly ok with their tax dollars funding a genocide, carceral repression of peaceful protests against genocide and denial of basic rights for anyone who disagrees with them. It’s not surprising coming from Trumpsters but we shouldn’t be surprised that it is also coming from centrists and liberals, they have been itching to punch down on those who point out liberal hypocrisy and the pathetic defense of a catastrophic and fascist status quo. You got yours, right? The sad fact is that many of the hippies who rightly protested the Vietnam war turned into intolerant reactionaries after becoming landed gentry from growing pot or after inheriting their folks prop 13 protected homes.

Patriot in Willits
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Patriot in Willits
2 years ago
Reply to  Caretaker

Disapproval of the theatrics of those privileged little tots at CPH doesn’t mean you actually disagree with some of their goals. And asking people if they’re OK with their tax dollars funding genocide is a foolish question. Of course they don’t. But not everyone uses the word genocide the same way you do. Personally, I don’t think the IDF’s actions have reached that threshold. They’ve killed a lot of Palestinian civilians, but they’re going after Hamas, who uses their own people as human shields.

Outside Looking In
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Outside Looking In
2 years ago

So it’s all just cosplay.

Brackish
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Brackish
2 years ago

Refusing to leave the campus, at this point, seems like diminishing returns. Take this act on the road, where people are not inconvenienced. Rent a stadium somewhere. If Joel Osteen can fill a stadium, do you folks still on campus think you can’t? Why be a bunch rookies, hiding, right now? You are famous. Get a concert promoter and work it!!

tru matters
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tru matters
2 years ago
Reply to  Brackish

Take it out to Hwy 61…

Now the rovin’ gambler he was very bored
He was tryin’ to create a next world war
He found a promoter who nearly fell off the floor
He said I never engaged in this kind of thing before
But yes I think it can be very easily done
We’ll just put some bleachers out in the sun
And have it on Highway 61

Bob Dylan/ Hwy 61

Brackish
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Brackish
2 years ago
Reply to  tru matters

Hadn’t heard that one. I’ll check it out. Thanks

TheyGotThis
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TheyGotThis
2 years ago

Sounds like boomers trying to make their experiences relevant. They’re not. Boomers brought the things that their fathers fought against to our universities and Americas shores. Fade away as we take our Republic back, short-timers…

LightCrust Doug
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LightCrust Doug
2 years ago
Reply to  TheyGotThis

When you are as old as the Boomers are now, you will find yourself yearning for the wisdom they could have imparted to you in your youth IF you had had the sense to engage in conversations with them.

TheyGotThis
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TheyGotThis
2 years ago

Never felt a need to learn how to sell dope, grow or manufacture dope or how to consume various types of dope and I didn’t have a hankering to learn how to get free handouts from the government. All the wisdom I felt I needed came from members of the Greatest Generation. You know, the folks the boomers were waiting to die so they could get something else for little to no effort?

c u 2morrow
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2 years ago
Reply to  TheyGotThis

reads like gen Z’ers life story

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TheyGotThis
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TheyGotThis
2 years ago

Wisdom of the boomers… the Greatest Generation aided by members of the Silent Generation came back from kicking the shit out of various forms of Collectivism and Despotism and in government, put men on the moon. By the late 70’s, when governance was handed to the boomers they’ve served to enrich themselves and their masters, can’t balance a budget, destroyed the value of the dollar and now we have government that doesn’t know what a woman is, doesn’t know which bathroom people should use and can’t fix a pothole.

Mel
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Mel
2 years ago
Reply to  TheyGotThis

Their reign of terror is almost over.

Bug on a Windshield
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Bug on a Windshield
2 years ago
Reply to  Mel

Yes, but not to worry. Generation X is next. And no, not the punk band comprised of Boomers, though they were good.

c u 2morrow
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2 years ago
Reply to  TheyGotThis

at this stage in our lives we don’t give a damn, This is what happens when you raise a generation of participation trophy recipients

TheyGotThis
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TheyGotThis
2 years ago
Reply to  c u 2morrow

Depends…

Bug on a Windshield
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Bug on a Windshield
2 years ago
Reply to  TheyGotThis

Depends! That’s a stage of life also.

guest
Guest
guest
2 years ago

Ever since 2020 the US has been fighting with each non stop, it started over the masks, they work, no they dont work, Covid is a hoax, it is not a hoax, the vaccines, are bad, they are not bad, BLM matter, no they dont matter, the woke regime is taking over ,it is not taking over, Trump is an idiot, no we worshipTrump, Biden is the fault of everything, no Trump is the fault of everything, and now we are fighting again over 2 countries that have had a conflict for over 50 years. I can not take it anymore, I need a new country, this one is to divided, and I do not see it coming back together anytime soon.

Steve Koch
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Steve Koch
2 years ago
Reply to  guest

My great grandfather was a boy during the election day riots in St. Louis in the 1850s.
He later wrote that the riots were between the Germans and the Irish because the Germans were convinced that the Irish were cheating in the elections.

Some things never change.?

Anon
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Anon
2 years ago
Reply to  guest

Take me with you. PS:pretty sure fighting over 2 countries that have had a conflict for over 1500 years!

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Radio Head
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Radio Head
2 years ago

Thank you Kym and crew for offering this article, some context of the actions being taken today.
Students don’t risk their education and liberty for just any cause. Yet with their strong emotional base, they show US what we may be ‘too busy’ to see or understand. As adult life gets busy, we tend to focus more on our own ‘world’, goals, and concerns.
WE SHOULD BE THANKING AND LISTENING TO STUDENTS, who often point the way to critical, inhumane issues.
It’s sad and hypocritical that many of the people commenting here, condemning these protests, would be cheering on student protests in Iran, China, Russia, etc. But as they seem to think the US and the west can do no wrong.
US STUDENTS HAVE BEEN PROVEN RIGHT IN THE ISSUES THEY STRUGGLE FOR!
The Vietnam WAR
The bombing of Cambodia
Apartheid in South Africa
Gun violence in schools+
McCarthyism
Free Speech
Racial Injustice
Etc etc
In this case, genocide!

STUDENT PROTESTERS ARE IMPORTANT INDICATORS OF WHEN HUMANS ARE DOING TERRIBLE THINGS!
While some damage (mostly graffiti) happens, this is nothing compared to the huge physical, cultural or rights based damages that they are calling our attention to!
Step back. Take a breath. LISTEN TO THEM.
And if you have the guts, help the cause in some way!

Here’s a link to a list of some important protests in the world.
https://www.history.com/topics/vietnam-war/history-of-student-protests

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Outside Looking In
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Outside Looking In
2 years ago
Reply to  Radio Head

American citizens are being held hostage by the very people these protesters are supporting, so they’re wrong on this one.

D'Tucker Jebs
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2 years ago

They’re not supporting Hamas.

Yabut
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Yabut
2 years ago
Reply to  D'Tucker Jebs

Of course they are. They just don’t mention the parts of the war they they find uncomfortable. . Like someone suing a doctor for malpractice doesn’t mention the practice was saving them when they OD’d.
“U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Monday urged Hamas to swiftly accept an Israeli proposal for a truce in the Gaza war and the release of Israeli hostages held by the Palestinian militant group.
“The only thing standing between the people of Gaza and a ceasefire is Hamas. They have to decide and they have to decide quickly,” he said. “I’m hopeful that they will make the right decision.””
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-secretary-state-antony-blinken-arrives-saudi-arabia-2024-04-29/

D'Tucker Jebs
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2 years ago
Reply to  Yabut

Hamas also proposed not just a ceasefire, but a lasting peace.
Israel is refusing.
https://apnews.com/article/hamas-khalil-alhayya-qatar-ceasefire-1967-borders-4912532b11a9cec29464eab234045438

Patriot in Willits
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Patriot in Willits
2 years ago
Reply to  D'Tucker Jebs

You have got to be kidding. The Hamas “peace proposal” demands that Israel give up all claims on the Golan Heights, the West Bank, and East Jerusalem. Clearly Netanyahu isn’t going anywhere near that, so Hamas is offering nothing at all.

Diablo Blanco
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Diablo Blanco
2 years ago
Reply to  D'Tucker Jebs

You are right, hamas is supporting them.

Radio Head
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Radio Head
2 years ago

First, your comment is without any basis. It’s just part of extreme pro-Israel, propaganda talking points.
When the US and western powers aligned with Russia in WW2, we did not thereby support their politics or necessarily their tactics. People and countries can work towards the same goal, from oppositional sides.

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TheyGotThis
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TheyGotThis
2 years ago
Reply to  Radio Head

Joe McCarthy was right.

Radio Head
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Radio Head
2 years ago
Reply to  TheyGotThis

Without getting into what he said and did, what I spoke to was ‘McCarthyism’.
Still, Joseph McCarthy was censured by the US Senate, by a wide margin. So your POV seems to be on the losing side of even that era!
From Wikipedia:
With the highly publicized Army–McCarthy hearings of 1954, and following the suicide of Wyoming Senator Lester C. Hunt that same year,[12] McCarthy’s support and popularity faded. He never caught a single spy. On December 2, 1954, the Senate voted to censureSenator McCarthy by a vote of 67–22, making him one of the few senators ever to be disciplined in this fashion…”

Yabut
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Yabut
2 years ago
Reply to  Radio Head

What’s sad to see is the people commenting here who think Palestinians and protesters can do no wrong. The coin of stupidity has two sides. However both sides are stupid.

Radio Head
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Radio Head
2 years ago
Reply to  Yabut

I hear that. I think some of the graffiti was not wise. Maybe even some of their tactical decisions. (Though one important one that I disagreed with, has gone in their favor). Age and awareness of institutional blowback has moderated me to a degree. Student protesters help me and others raise our gaze to what is important.
STOP THE WAR ON GAZA! STOP THE GENOCIDE!

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LightCrust Doug
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LightCrust Doug
2 years ago
Reply to  Yabut

You go live in a tent city of 1.5 million people that has the infrastructure for 280,000 without access to food, water, medical care, then endure Yabut saying how stupid you are for having left your home in the north of Gaza when ordered to do so by the IDF and having gone to Raffa, where the IDF told you your family would be safe. And as the IDF attacks you and your neighbors in the tent city, with no home to return to, and all the things you worked your lifetime to earn blown to smithereens, you can pray to the Almighty for a miracle of life or the sweet release of death. You call that person stupid. O ye of no morality whatsoever!

Outside Looking In
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Outside Looking In
2 years ago

When the conditions are bad enough, one side will surrender.
Palestinians apparently don’t think it’s gotten that bad yet.

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Yabut

What is pathetic to see are the ones that are of the opinion that Israel can do no wrong, like Biden and Blinken …

Guest 2
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Guest 2
2 years ago

Incredible article and perfect timing, let’s hope the police read it.

Also to the university, the lumping together of vandalism costs and lost operational revenue is unfair. it’s on national news atm that cphsu students caused millions in damage while not providing context. it’s these types of political tactics and misleading statements that divide people and cause violence. Please clarify the breakdown of lost revenue v costs.

“While it’s too early to assess the cost of illegal activities, we estimate it to be in the millions. That includes damage done by theft, vandalism and graffiti, and the supplies and personnel needed to repair that, in addition to the loss of revenue from disruption to University operations.”

Brian
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Brian
2 years ago

Did this comment section get copied and pasted from a FOX NEWS feed? Wow

Yabut
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Yabut
2 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Yup. Damn free speech anyway.

Radio Head
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Radio Head
2 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Seems like that! Lol!!

Bozo
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Bozo
2 years ago

Hmmm… I’m old enough to remember… cardboard boxes were ‘minefields’ in the streets. (Protest over Nixon laying mines in Haiphong harbor.) Counter protests outside of the administration office. Bomb crater dug in the lawn. Right wing students filling it in.

Meanwhile 1: Vietnam War: as many as 2,000,000 civilians on both sides and some 1,100,000 North Vietnamese and Viet Cong fighters. The U.S. military has estimated that between 200,000 and 250,000 South Vietnamese soldiers died.

Meanwhile 2: Vietnam is emerging as a rising power at the heart of the Indo-Pacific region and an increasingly important U.S. partner. Once one of the world’s poorest and most isolated countries, Vietnam is now a middle-income country with a dynamic, young population and a promising future.

Since joining ASEAN in 1997, Vietnam has played a significant role in regional diplomacy and development. Vietnam’s foreign policy aims to act as a “friend and reliable partner of all countries in the international community.” Vietnam has established strategic partnerships with Japan, China, India, Russia and other countries. The United States and Vietnam agreed on a “comprehensive partnership” in 2013 that was strategic in all but name, including cooperation on economic, security, educational, cultural and war legacy issues.

Three million people died… over a lie. (More recently, 500,000 died over the Bush II lies.)
Hint: Don’t believe anything that the government says.
Investigate the facts yourself.

Go figure.

Yabut
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Yabut
2 years ago
Reply to  Bozo

And subsequently “Pol Pot transformed Kampuchea into a one-party state which he called Democratic Kampuchea. Seeking to create an agrarian socialist society that he believed would evolve into a communist society, Pol Pot’s government forcibly relocated the urban population to the countryside and forced it to work on collective farms. Pursuing complete egalitarianism, money was abolished and all citizens were forced to wear the same black clothing. Mass killings of perceived government opponents, coupled with malnutrition and poor medical care, killed between 1.5 and 2 million people, approximately a quarter of Cambodia’s population, a process which was later termed the Cambodian genocide. Repeated purges of the CPK generated growing discontent; by 1978 Cambodian soldiers were mounting a rebellion in the east. After several years of border clashes, the newly unified Vietnam invaded Cambodia in December 1978, toppling Pol Pot and installing a rival government in 1979. The Khmer Rouge retreated to the jungles near the Thai border, from where they continued to fight.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot
Damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

Permanently on Monitoring
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Permanently on Monitoring
2 years ago

I am reminded of my dorm room at UC Davis, in Malcolm Hall, in 1970, when you needed a two-pole wire antenna on your bulletin board in order to receive FM in Stereo…

In those days, I matriculated into college before I was mature enough, experienced enough, hell, anything at all enough, to be a serious student, and I really started in 1970, because I didn’t want to get drafted and sent into the Military Machine which was attempting to rid the globe of Communism before the “Dominos started to fall over” and because I rejected killing other humans, as my parents generation accepted because of Pearl Harbor, Hitler, undiscovered but hinted at Genocide, and the Fascist conversion of Europe for the second time in 25 years…

If the people protesting and destroying property had to actually go to war, or do anything at all difficult, they would be whining with some reason, and would discover their limit of impotence, compared to the insanity of armed conflict…

These protests, nationwide, are reasoned, reasonable, but still misguided, and their result may be different from what they desire, as the students at Kent State discovered…

War is a rational response to insanity, while being an insane construct all it’s own…

Obviously, we have learned nothing in 54 years, except that now there are twice as many of us to satisfy…

You can, these days, get any degree at all, online, from the comfort of your parent’s home, at least in this country, and the only difference is you need a different kind of antenna…

Find something meaningful to do with your lives, and remember:

The trip from childhood to Adulthood will include times of tears…

Zipline
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Zipline
2 years ago

“Four dead in California” just isn’t catchy enought. No commercial potential there.

Outside Looking In
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Outside Looking In
2 years ago
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“Tin soldiers and Newsom coming …”

Yeah, you’re right.

Crap
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Crap
2 years ago

The attacks on 9-11-2011 were historically and changing as well but it dies.not mean it was a good thing.

These nacarrists think anything they.do is okay screw everyone.else. screw the students that were looking forward to graduating ceremonies etc.

If they want to protest I am behind them 100% even if I don’t agree with their cause.

This is not a protest it is vandalism and a mild form of terrorism. Why terrorism? Well the idea behind a terror act is to strike fear into a population or part of a population. In this case they are disrupting lives with the threat of doing more.of the same.unless their demands are met.

notheone
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notheone
2 years ago

We protested the war. I was protesting in Cambridge when Kent State happened. Yes, students need to be protected. All students! The protesters never had animosity towards students because of their religious beliefs. It’s OK to protest the war even better if you protest Hamas too. Check this out https://www.screamsbeforesilence.com/#

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Humboldtian
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2 years ago

Kudos to Kym for covering the language used by these protestors. Other news coverage is purposefully omitting the “Intifada Hall” coverage as well as all the “River to the Sea” graffiti which expands off campus into the City of Arcata. It’s important to note all the actions and language used by the protesters. What is deduced by their language is they do not want a two state solution and they advocate for armed uprising against Israel. Both positions are an echo of Hamas and are far from non-violent or peaceful.

Anon
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Anon
2 years ago

If only it were a protest . This is a destructive occupation.

Bad parenting if your kid thinks this sort of behavior equates to anything remotely related to free speech.