[UPDATE 7:12 p.m.: Live Video From the Scene] Cal Poly Humboldt Campus Sealed Off Amid Law Enforcement Buildup and Student Protests
California State Police vehicle parked at Blue Lake Casino last night. [Photo provided]
The closure encompasses major access points, including road blocks at Harpst and B streets, as well as Plaza and LK Wood, as confirmed by the university’s statement. The directive from Cal Poly Humboldt emphasizes that only individuals with explicit permission from University Police are allowed on campus grounds. Those found violating this mandate face potential citations or arrests.
Students residing in campus housing are allowed limited movement within their dormitories and associated dining facilities, but are restricted from accessing other parts of the university. This measure comes as part of the university’s response to the occupation of Siemens Hall and Nelson Hall, along with reported unlawful activities around the building areas and the quad.
At least two state campus police vehicles were seen at the Blue Lake Casino overnight. Social media is reporting a bulldozer and other equipment moving onto campus.
Law enforcement on LK Wood Blvd about 1 p.m. [Photo provided]
Students issued a statement this morning saying,
This is a message from the collective group occupying Cal Poly Humboldt. We are worried about increasing threats of violence from police in spite of our nonviolent occupation that is trying to bring light to the need for Palestinian liberation. We refuse to cave to the fear mongering of school admin and, allegedly, the chancellors office and board of trustees. Their actions will reflect their willingness to not only stand by, but to support the use of state violence on students exercising their rights and the genocide of Palestinians. Those who come to our camp can attend teach-ins and community gatherings, and be a part of organized food distribution, and clean up crews.
We are sending a reporter to the area. Please stay with us for updates to this quickly moving situation.
UPDATE 1:36 p.m.: Kelley Lincoln reporting for KMUD News says that law enforcement is at Library Circle and has closed the roads with K-rails.
UPDATE 1:50 p.m.: Our reporter Ryan Hutson sent us this photo of law enforcement at the Cal Poly Humboldt campus.
Law enforcement at the Cal Poly Humboldt campus. [Photo by Ryan Hutson]
Cal Poly Humboldt Student Response to Admin Escalation We are disappointed to receive an email from campus administration announcing a “hard close” of campus. Allowing only those with permission to enter campus at this time. Anyone on campus is subject to citation or arrest. Police were present at the time the email went out, setting up concrete barriers at all campus entrances. Students living on campus are restricted to their dorms and residential areas. We have and remain to be a peaceful protest. In negotiations with administration yesterday we were given the impression that negotiations would continue however, they have recently informed us that they refuse to negotiate further. We are concerned for the potential of police escalation at this time. We showed good faith in our negotiations and deescalation yesterday by reopening Siemens Hall. Administration has not kept their end of the agreement. We love and care for our community and continue to stand in solidarity with other campuses for a free Palestine. Shame on administration for silencing the free speech of our brave students. We, as ever, are not afraid.
Below are images from inside Siemens Hall by Ryan Littleton, CR student photographer:
[Photo by Ryan Littleton, CR student photographer]
[Photo by Ryan Littleton, CR student photographer]
[Photo by Ryan Littleton, CR student photographer]
[Photo by Ryan Littleton, CR student photographer]
[Photo by Ryan Littleton, CR student photographer]
[Photo by Ryan Littleton, CR student photographer]
He told us,
[T]he students have requested…what they call “the three Ds,” which is to Deescalate, meaning the removal of the police and the threat of police violence, and also for academic amnesty for the students that are here that they won’t be facing academic repercussions.
Number two, to Divest. They want a full audit of investments that the university may have in companies that are supporting the State of Israel. And they also want [the University to] stop selling… products from companies that… are supporting the State of Israel.l.
And then lastly, …they would like Cal Poly Humboldt to make an open declaration in favor of a ceasefire in Gaza and they would like them to urge the CSU to do the same.
And if those are met, there was consensus, overwhelming consensus, within the students that they would peacefully surrender Siemens Hall, and there would be no…absolutely…no need for police violence on this campus anymore.
…[T]hat has been communicated to the administration. And if the police take action at this point,…the administration needs…to respond to why they were not willing to negotiate with the students.
UPDATE 5:53 p.m.: The California Faculty Association Humboldt just posted,
CFA Humboldt Condemn the Hard Closure of Cal Poly Humboldt Campus and Risk to Campus Community Members
The Cal Poly Humboldt Chapter of the California Faculty Association (CFA), a labor union that represents teaching, counseling, library, and coaching faculty of the California State University System, strongly condemn today’s actions of Cal Poly Humboldt (CPH) Administration as yet another dangerous escalation of their response to a peaceful campus demonstration.
Just after 12:30pm, Saturday, April 27th, CPH Administration sent an email that the campus was officially under a “hard” closure. As of the writing of this email, a strong police presence has been sighted on campus, barricades have been erected to prohibit access to campus, and students who live on campus are being restricted to the resident halls and the dining hall.
This campus closure represents a dangerous escalation of the administrative response to this week’s student demonstrations against the Israeli government’s relentless assault on the people of Palestine. Student protestors and their numerous allies including faculty and staff, are still in the central campus area, now isolated and vulnerable to the kind of police violence that occurred April 22nd, the first night of the demonstration. The students and their allies are engaged in a peaceful protest, closing campus and introducing unneeded police presence puts students and others at an unnecessary risk of both physical and emotional harm.
Last evening, student protesters opened Siemens Hall, the administrative building they have been occupying, so that all could see that, while there is graffiti on the walls, there has been little other property damage. Contrary to what was insinuated by CPH administration earlier this week, no confidential files have been compromised. Nearly all administrative offices remain locked. Students are demonstrating on behalf of the people of Gaza and all Palestinians and are not interested in administrative paperwork.
CFA Humboldt demands that:
• Tom Jackson, who has been asked to step down from his role as CPH President, must immediately resign.
• Mark Johnson, who has been asked to step down from his role as Chief of Staff of President Tom Jackson, must immediately resign.
• Barriers to Campus need to be immediately removed and campus needs to be reopened. All members of the university community need access to campus.
• Police officers must leave their stations on campus and return to their home offices.
• Cal Poly Humboldt administration needs to commit to student safety and agree to continue to respectfully and in good faith negotiate with student protesters.We also ask those who are able to come to LK Wood to help observe the [perimeter] of campus as long as you are able.
In the words of CPH Professor Gabi Kirk, “I have seen this happen in Palestine to restrict freedom of mobility and attempt to quash protest. Our students who are protesting for justice, peace, and an end to killing in Palestine are now having it happen to them.”
Restricting freedom of movement, speech, and peaceful demonstration will not make our campus safer nor will it heal our campus community of recent events. CFA Humboldt asks CPH Administration to open the campus, support students, and allow faculty to do the job we were hired to do, teach students.
In union,
CFA Humboldt Executive Board
UPDATE 6 p.m.: Just a few minutes ago, an officer informed emergency dispatch over the scanner, “We have protesters marching north on G Street towards campus.”
UPDATE 6:27 p.m.: More protesters arrived on campus from G Street in Arcata.
https://www.facebook.com/HumboldtFreelanceReporting/videos/962564665275590
UPDATE 7:12 p.m.: Ryan Hutson livestreaming from the entryway to Cal Poly Humboldt, where about 60 protesters have gathered at the university entrance.
https://www.facebook.com/RedheadedBlackbelt/videos/895382132273757
UPDATE:
Earlier:
- Pro Palestinian Protesters Occupy Siemens Hall at Cal Poly
- From Campus to Courthouse: Pro-Palestinian Protesters Demand Release of Activists After Clashes at Cal Poly Humboldt
- Protestors Continue to Occupy Cal Poly Humboldt Buildings
- Anti-War Protestors Continue Occupation of Cal Poly Humboldt Building: Campus Closure Extended
- Letter From Student Urges Cal Poly Humboldt Leadership to Rethink Campus Closure and Facilitate Peaceful Protests
- Cal Poly Humboldt Extends Campus Closure Amid Ongoing Protests
- Anti-War Protestors Continue Occupation of Cal Poly Humboldt Building: Campus Closure Extended
- Cal Poly Humboldt Responds to Protesters Demands as Students Continue to Occupy Seimens Hall (Almost Five Days)
- Breaking News: Cal Poly Humboldt Announces Campus Closure and Shift to Remote Operations Until Semester’s End
- Safe Exit Offer: Cal Poly Humboldt Provides Opportunity for Occupants to Leave Buildings Without Immediate Arrest
- Sheriff Honsal Visits CPH as Protestors Opt Out of Safe Exit Offer; Siemens Hall Opens
Join the discussion! For rules visit: https://kymkemp.com/commenting-rules
Comments system how-to: https://wpdiscuz.com/community/postid/10599/
Playing the slots while collecting overtime. What a great gig. Damn, I’m jealous!
There was a live Concert at the Protest last night! The Heavy Metal band GOOSENECK rolled up in a Uhaul and started jamming. There will be more live music tonight according to an email I read! Community is welcome!
The protestors thank the community for all the community support they have been receiving!!
https://youtu.be/7ZPMEmhqzlw?feature=shared
Ok, Mr. Square, nice promo. Probably the only gig they could get. The music sucks, but there is a scene for metal here in Humboldt that brings kids out. Down at Savage Henry and Siren’s Song in old town is where you’ll find it.
Gooseneck shreds! Not a huge fan of their vocalist, but the guitarist and bass player are worth going to see. Just my humble opinion
You have two downvotes so far! Thanks for sharing. Music always helps. Might help the cops too. Maybe play a few Bob Seger and the Silver Bullet Band tunes for them
You’re not a student here, you don’t live here, you don’t belong here.
Maybe so, but he appreciates good music
Here’s a thought instead of leaving tax payers on the hook to fix damage done by protesters, just split it up and add it on to next year’s tuition..That would discourage this kind of destructive behavior.
Looks like tuition will be going up:
Statement from Cal Poly Humboldt:
Since the beginning, the University’s concern has not been the protest itself. We have a long history of activism and civic engagement on this campus, and we unequivocally support the rights of students and others to assemble peacefully, to protest, and to have their voices heard.
The concern in this case is the ongoing unlawful occupation of campus buildings by students and non-students and other criminal acts (e.g., vandalism, theft, destruction of state property and intimidation of University employees). These ongoing occupations have also created safety hazards for those who have barricaded themselves inside, blocking exits to the building.
This has nothing to do with free speech or freedom of inquiry. It is lawless behavior that has harmed the vast majority of our students whose education has been interrupted, damaged the reputation of our school, and drained resources from the accomplishment of our core educational purpose.
Individuals inside Siemens Hall were repeatedly asked to move their demonstration outside into the University Quad, which is in the heart of campus directly in front of the building. When they refused, they were warned multiple times to leave the building or face arrest for trespassing. When police attempted to enforce the order to disperse, individuals resisted arrest, which ended in a confrontation. When it was clear the situation was escalating, police withdrew for the safety of those inside the building and law enforcement officers.
The University’s goal has always been to bring a peaceful end to the occupation, and we continue to talk to anyone willing to have productive and respectful dialogue.
While it’s too early to assess the cost of illegal activities, we estimate it to be in the millions. That includes damage done by theft, vandalism and graffiti, and the supplies and personnel needed to repair that, in addition to the loss of revenue from disruption to University operations.
But the true cost has been the disruption of the education of our students who came here to learn and get a college degree.
Not much compared with the destruction of Gaza, paid for by you and me, buddy!
Arrest everyone in the buildings expel the students from the university and charge the non-students with breaking in and entering. The DA needs to throw the book at them. The professors involved need to be fired. They have all clearly broken the Universities codes and the law.
If this is done the foolishness will stop.
I agree with you! All I can say is good luck with ANY prosecutions with a do nothing Democrat DA.
More like a do-nothing democrat state.
I relish this. You Americans seem to go whichever way the wind blows. Arrest them you say! End this foolishness!
Why? This is the exact thing that the Universities, political left, and the state of California have been pushing for years. Occupy, shut things down, “mostly peaceful” protests. A lot of these demonstrations are funded by George Soros, a man who also donates heavily to our university system. I say let the university and the left eat each other.
You have forgotten the first tenet of warfare: Never interrupt your enemy while they are destroying themselves. Yet here you are, desiring to do just that. In a few weeks you will be complaining about the university and the leftist policies it and the students push. My advice to you, just sit back man, enjoy the show.
You have a point. I just don’t like the disruptions to the education of the working-class kids trying to get a degree to further their lot in life. Also the damage to the facilities is infuriating.
Damage to buildings more infuriating than genocide? Children and other innocent civilians being tortured and your infuriated by graffiti? Now those are some sad values you’re cemented in. If Natives came into town bombing current residents for their land back, land taken generations ago though really not that long ago, you’d be fighting back and be supported. I don’t agree with all the tactics and especially things such as “F Israel” are just plain useless and immature tantrum statements of the students however i do recall when Vietnam was being protested and how history has proven the protesters valiant and correct.
It’s not “which is worse” contest. Yes, what’s happening in Gaza is horrific and worse than vandalism and disrupting the education of innocent students and community members. But that doesn’t make vandalism and disruption OK -especially because it is possible to protest without committing those things. I do support the cause 100%.
In reality our POLITICAL leaders are planning WW3 AS WE SPRAK! Israela invasion of Gaza is a smoke screen for ww3 . ICB Missles, drone and AI warfare using robotics.
Scribbles on the walls are nothing compared to nuclear war which the USA is escalating.
The Politicians want to squash dissent, the dissent is seen world wide as US citizens are opposed to Israeli support.
THEY WANT MORE WAR!
Biden is an old man now but has ranted for years about supporting Israel.
Politicians are interested in short sited goals. Black Rock runs things, US politicians controlled by Soros, BlackWater and corporate interests.
WW3 GLOBAL WAR IS COMING!
US is escalating everything
First of all, waaaay too many conspiracy theories for my version of reality, and I also don’t agree with your gaslighting. Are you a troll? The stuff you’re spewing is designed to ignite people, but I won’t be participating in that – sorry.
Those “working-class” kids will be blue haired land whales that don’t know the difference between a man and a woman by the time the university system is done with them.
Working class kids don’t go to college, they go to trade school or just get right to work, and are much more successful and free of debt because of those choices.
Let the university system reap what it has sown
I am one of those parents who struggled to pay tuition so my kid could get a Cal Poly education. Nearly missed mortgage payments to pay 7 figures for that right.
We are dieing financially. His semester is full of labs, 5 weeks lost between the strike and now this. Relegated to try to finish in a local resident’s garage while his project team just went home.
A bunch of self important privileged ssholes couldn’t get their head out of that dark place long enough to realize the supermajority and president sent $20 billion to Isreal 3000 miles away while they were protesting 5 hours from the nearest major airport.
They stole money I spent a lifetime to acquire so my son could have a better life and congratulated themselves. They didn’t do jack shit. The endowment at Humboldt is a joke. They own mutual funds and have less money than a single trust fund brat in Columbia or Stanford. The damage is 10% of the endowment.
Along the way, a subset of protesters took it on themselves to plaster a memorial to a much loved professor who was a Holocaust survivor with anti semitic tropes. They DMd Jewish students threatening them. Several parents I know from a support site reported their Jewish students are quitting school out of fear.
But the protesters and remain in their feckless isolated mini CHAZ. hundreds of miles from relevance, having shattered dreams and sacrificed hope at the alter of hubris. Good on you.
Here we go with this Soros guy again!
Old George is the money man.
Larry FINK OF Black ROCK HAS WAY MORE POWER!
That’s who pulls BIDENS STRINGS
You Americans? Well thank you for the compliment. And where exactly do you hail from? Unfortunately, this no show. It’s reality and we won’t tolerate it here. My advice to you is to contact your local authorities and tell them to put an end to the violence, occupation, destruction of state property, terrorist statements, trespassing and graffiti.
I am a nuclear powered microwave fused with a Russian dishwasher, floating around in space. It’s Putin’s newest technology. That’s why he is kicking the West’s butt in Ukraine. It seems like you are tolerating it. I have a satellite’s eye view of the situation.
The Dems running this war and oppression and recession and depression.
Newsom and GENOCIDE Joe are destroying the Great USA !
We were better of with Trump! At least Trump didn’t try to get us nto WW3!
Now it’s a Witch Hunt by the radical Democrat juDA and JUDGES going after Donald.
As a Democrat living in California, I have observed that Florida and Texas have done a better job of handling these demonstrations. They permit lawful demonstrations to occur but don’t tolerate anyone breaking any laws or university rules.
The DA handles most criminal prosecutions in California. However, the Attorney General is empowered to directly handle any case instead of leaving the case to the DA. I’ve written to Governor Newsom earlier today asking that he ask the Attorney General to do so.
Certainly all the employees that signed that letter should be immediately separated for subverting California State policy under color of their authority. And if course all the protesters occupying the building, blacklist from any California public institution of higher education.
non students are paid protesters. They need hard jail time.
Just tourists.
Who are the leaders?
They’ll do their dead level best to remain anonymous.
The assertive ones directing the crowd, appear more active than the docile crowd taking the direction.
Nobody getting paid at CAL Poly HUMBOLDT to protest..
Show us the proof, I call Bullshit and lies
That old chestnut about paid outside protesters (agitators) has been resurrected in every conflict in the USA since at least the early 1900s labor organizing drives. Ford used it while he was beating his striking workers bloody in the 1930s. Reagan used it as he tried to dismantle the Vietnam War era anti-war movement on California campuses. I notice that Mr. Clark has not responded to your request for proof of his allegation.
AND…make them clean up the mess they made and get rid of the graffiti !!
Hard to do on that old redwood paneling.
Or make gravel for future road repairs.
Agreed
Looks like the occupiers are about to get what they want. The occupation has nothing to do with free speech. It’s all about forcing CPH Admin and law enforcement into forcibly removing them from the building.
The original message has been lost through the criminal actions of the occupiers who forcibly resisted and assaulted the police and throughly ransacked, trashed and vandalized the building.
paid to protest!
SJP with two other groups, Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP) and Within Our Lifetime, reportedly staked the tents at Columbia University on April 17.“An analysis by The Post shows that all three got cash from groups linked to Soros. The Rockefeller Brothers Fund also gave cash to JVP,” Vincent details.
Then there is the U.S. Campaign for Palestinian Rights (USCPR). The Soros-founded organization Open Society Foundations, which is now run by his son Alex Soros, has reportedly contributed $300,000 to the USCPR since 2017, while the Rockefeller Brothers Fund has given it $355,000 in the past five years.
“USPCR provides up to $7,800 for its community-based fellows and between $2,880 and $3,660 for its campus-based ‘fellows’ in return for spending eight hours a week organizing “campaigns led by Palestinian organizations,” Vincent notes.
The article highlights three USCPCR’s radical fellows at several campuses: Malak Afaneh, Craig Birckhead-Morton, and Nidaa Lafi.
Afaneh, who went viral after disrupting a dinner for Berkeley Law School graduates at the residence of Jewish Dean Erwin Chemerinsky and his wife earlier in April, is a fellow for the USPCR and has spoken frequently at anti-Israel demonstrations in recent days, according to the Post.
you and your Soros conspiracy theories
Show the evidence that he’s wrong. You won’t, because you can’t, he’s spot on. One lines and platitudes and never the facts equals babble.
How does one show evidence of non existence?
Did Mr Clark provide any evidence that any of these “fellows” are located at hsu?
The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. What evidence is linking George Soros and protests at Cal Poly Humboldt? Soros has become the Loch Ness monster of conspiracy theorists.
Here you go…
https://nypost.com/2024/04/26/us-news/george-soros-maoist-fund-columbias-anti-israel-tent-city/
In a 2004 survey conducted by Pace University, the Post was rated the least-credible major news outlet in New York, and the only news outlet to receive more responses calling it “not credible” than credible (44% not credible to 39% credible).
I conducted a survey and it turns out that no one has ever even heard of Pace University. I’m sure their survey was highly credible though.
Who did they survey, by the way?
The New York Times.
Bwahahahahaha!
It is impossible to tell exactly where the money comes from in the current world of giant NGOs sprinkling their largesse grants through their network of professional fund managers.
As far as I can the biggest donor to the test organization I chose, Jewish Voice for Peace, a Berkeley University created entity, came from the Rockefeller Brothers Fund. A trip through their (RBF) website lead to a whole series of recommendations to change the politics of America that sounds just like the comments here from Progressive pundits- ranked voting, term limits for Supreme Court Justices, reducing the power of the Electorial College, public funding of political candidates, etc. None of their philosophy of funding are interested in rights of citizens and since 2000 only three things seem to be funded- environmental causes and changing the US political system to increase direct democracy and, some oddly specific choice, Palestinian rights.
In an interview with the current head of RBF, Stephen Heintz, there was this quote- “It’s ironic that, in order to decentralize — which is part of what democracy is all about — strong central leadership is required.”
So now we have the military-industrial-NGO complex running our affairs. Who’d have thought that they would end up being the three branches government? Money is made by the richest using government and government controlled by richest using money.
https://philanthropynewsdigest.org/features/newsmakers/stephen-b.-heintz-a-conversation-with-the-president-of-the-rockefeller-brothers-fund
They’re the ones who first reported the Hunter laptop story and were ridiculed as colluding with Russia. Turned out to be true.
I saw this reposted in the Wall Street Journal. Unlike most MSM news organizations they use fact checkers before posting anything so this is probably true.
You could have used the National Enquirer as a source and have more credibility than New York Post. And Maoists? Seriously?
not a theory
What isn’t a conspiracy is the group that funds SJP, the leader of protests on campuses around the country, is being investigated for having ties with terrorists. The young impressionable students who don’t know the difference between genocide and gatorade are being dumped, corralled, and stampeded by SJP whose leaders should not set foot on any campus again.
Alan Dershowitz has words to say about this. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/dershowitz-warns-useful-idiots-now-protesting-are-being/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=the-gateway-pundit&utm_campaign=dailyam&utm_content=2024-04-28
The Gate Way Pundit?
That’s right, here we go again, kill the messenger. A Harvard Professor Emeritus and expert on Constitutional law can’t get his words out via the MSM, for some unfathomable reason. So obviously whoever publishes him must be bogus. Really rational thinking. Nobody’s buying it anymore, Tru.
To be fair, he is a super slimy scumbag of a defense lawyer, in his defense?
Btw Gateway p filed bankruptcy for being super slimy scumbag lyers.
My, my. Sounds like you’re not a fan. Presumably he’s passed on his methods to all of his students at Harvard -? Some of whom have ended up in high places. Some of whom he has recently condemned for villainous antisemitism. Funny how people call out brilliant and successful lawyers as “slimy”, scumbags”, etc., when they don’t share the same politics. Ad hominem – the last resort in a lost argument.
You don’t know squat about my politics! I fully stand by my comment that he is in fact a slimy scumbag defense attorney, Harvard or not. Also for sure gateway p is slimy scumbag lyers. And your comments usually DRIP with your bias!
Weinstein, Epstein, Helmsley ,o.j, tyson, etc.
Maybe you think defending rapists, pedos, and murderers makes you brilliant! You do you,
Gross, Id love to hear the opinion of the -1. Are you somehow a pedo, rapist, murderer advocate? Just because you are a defense lawyer doesn’t mean you have to take the cases of the sickest fucks in society. Does he hold any responsibility for who he choses to defend? Im truly interested in your response
For me, it’s not his politics, it’s the company he keeps. Defended OJ, Michael Milken, Leona Helmsley, Jim Bakker, Mike Tyson, Jeffrey Epstein, Julian Assange, Harvey Weinstein, and Trump. That pretty much sums it up for me.
my, my. So you are a fan? Interesting you hold in high regard the word of the defender of some of the worlds most truly disgusting people. Im truly astonished at down votes condemning the pedos, rapists , and murderer. Please do speak up in your support. sickening
Or the original: http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/20600/us-campuses-incubating-terrorism
George Soros is banned from 6 Countries including his country of birth, He needs to be banned from the USA also
In an article about Soros in the late 90s by the New Yorker, I think it was, he admits his mother, who was a Jewess, was an anti semite. Let that fact sink in.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1995/01/23/the-world-according-to-soros
Yes, he admits that, but you left out the nuance.
“He continued, “My mother was quite anti-Semitic, and ashamed of being Jewish. Given the culture in which one lived, being Jewish was a clear-cut stigma, a disadvantage, a handicap—and, therefore, there was always the desire to transcend it, to escape it.” He confirmed what someone had told me—that his family name had long ago been changed from Schwartz. “So the assimilationist Jews of Hungary had a deep sense of inferiority, and it took me a long time to work through that,” he said, adding, however, that he succeeded in doing so many years ago.”
A little earlier in the article he also tells us this:
“Self-control and detachment were the keys to survival. Soros recalled that when his mother was questioned at the police station by the local sheriffs, she convinced her interrogators that she was indeed the person her false papers stated she was by an exercise of detachment so extreme that she felt herself to be hovering near the ceiling, observing her bravura performance from above. He added, however, that after she was released she collapsed, suffering what was “kind of a nervous breakdown”.
I know more now about George Soros than I had ever known before. Thank you.
I also know something about intergenerational trauma, thanks to Dr. Gabor Maté and my own experience.
I now have what some people in the 1950’s called a “fellow feeling” for Mr. Soros that I did not have before. Again, thank you for elevating this thread with helpful information.
Jewess? Really? Are you daft, or merely living in a previous century?
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/apr/21/facebook-posts/george-soros-is-not-banned-in-six-countries/
That was a great video clip. The old Karen didn’t want the Muslim to speak about the schools support of Genocide through its investments.
Occupy all of their fancy white table cloth dinners. Bring attention to the murder and holocaustic genocide of 150,000 victims.
Are the ones on campus enrolled there, or at least local?
Regarding the 5:08pm update:
The occupiers, who increasingly seem to be sheep led by coyotes, say if their unreasonable/impossible demands are met they will peacefully surrender and there will be no need for police violence. But they can peacefully surrender any time, including as they are being arrested.
Police use of force, if any, will be dictated by the occupiers and their level of resistance. Any injuries suffered by the occupiers will be on them.
I suppose survivors of domestic violence also have the ability to leave at any time, and any violence perpatranted on them is on them also, since they had the opportunity to leave peacefully, perhaps victims of child abuse also deserve what they gwt since they didn’t run away peacefully according to your logic, Correct? I mean in your logic, the ones getting abused deserve their abuse, CORRECT?
Your sick and twisted comments don’t merit a response.
According to you. And who are you? Your comments “Truth” Be Told are generally vapid and self serving tripe. At least Mendo puts out thoughtful messages, you just put out.
Change my mind. You have good comments Truth be Told. But so does Mendo.
Mendo’s “thoughtful comments” are riddled with inaccuracies.
And vapid tripe is the perfect characterization of YOUR comments which are characteristically lacking in any depth or substance whatsoever.
Give me an example of my own inaccuracy?
I will share my source ans links to the info . You xant make this genocide up!
Just off the top:
You have repeatedly referred to the protesters as “non-violent” but they forcefully and violently resisted arrest. I believe you also denied there was any vandalism to the building which is proven false by the videos.
You’ve also claimed Gaza is being “carpet bombed” which it is not. Structures in Gaza are being systematically destroyed but it’s being done sequentially, not simultaneously. The result is the same, but it’s not carpet bombing.
I’m sure there are other examples if I wanted to take the time to review your comments, but I don’t.
Sick and twisted is your comments that college students who are still youthful and learning should be subjected to violence, in your reality victims of violence deserve the abuse, I justvshowed you your own view in metaphor, it’s your own problem you can’t see your own hateful and violent comments promoting violence. I don’t support violence in any form ever.
As I said previously your odious assertions that I support the violent abuse of women and children are not deserving of a response.
But you can add to your list of inaccuracies your false assertion that I advocated for violence against the occupiers or that I made “hateful and violent” comments. That exists only in your twisted alternate reality.
You use this argument but ignore sharia law?
Why won’t Jordan or Egypt allow Palestinians into their countries?
I think it is wrong to equate domestic violence with those who are occupying a public facility in a “negotiation” situation that can only end in one way. They can not effect the war, nor force anyone to say or do anything because they want it. They said what they want, now they can leave or deal with law enforcement that will be forced to do what they are obligated to do, not what they want to do. What about the students that just want to get their education and graduate? Protest is a right, occupation is not.
Are u advocating violence, that’s terrorism, oh but it’s not if it’s state sponsored violence correct?
That’s. Just called America!
First there has not been anyone occupying that building for almost 2 days now. That building was NOT TRASHED OR RANSACKED. I was in it while it was fully open a couple nights ago. There is graffiti inside. But nothing is broken.
What IS BROKEN is a trust between students and the Administration and university system. The student protesters we’re negotiating in good faith, progress had been made, and then it stopped.
Student protest is an historic and important part of the way we learn about challenging social issues. Schools need to build a contingency fund for such occupancies into their budgets. They don’t need to promote protests (and certainly don’t), but colleges do need to plan for students to protest and cost then some money occasionally.
You’re living in an alternate reality if you don’t think the buildings were ransacked and trashed as well as vandalized.
The building is still barricaded.
Do they know that children in Palestine are taught to hate Jews and want to grow up to kill them? They are groomed their entire lives for these times. This is a “two wrongs don’t make a right” situation in the Middle East and centuries old. You can google this if you doubt me. I read it just this morning and it just confounds the mind that this continues in this century.
You don’t think a majority of Israeli’s support the apartheid and genocidal policies of their government?
If not, why do they keep electing them?
It should be no surprise that oppressed people rebel against their oppressors or that vile atrocities become commonplace in war.
I read there’s plans for new Jewish settlements in Northern Gaza, another security zone like Golan Heights and West Bank. I support their right for self defense but it should have been through door-to-door clearing of terrorists, not flattening every building in Gaza
Only the extremists on the Israeli far right want to resettle Gaza, it’s not mainstream govt policy. At least not yet. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail.
Yes ISRAEL COMMITTES WAR CRIMES AND GENOCIDE , by carpet bombing women and children with their precision bombs and misses.
May the Lord rebuke you.
Most Israelis support not having bombs lobbed at them from Palestinian held areas. Not having terrorists blow up civilians. They believe that a huge amount of control of Palestinians is required to have any sense of security. This is a list the Israeli government has said were mortar and drone attacks from the Palestinian territories since 2000. Thousands of them- https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/palestinian-rocket-and-mortar-attacks-against-israel
Here is a list of terrorist attacks inside Israel since 1948- again thousands – most by far by Hamas-https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Israel
” In 2022, Israelis suffered from over 5,000 Palestinian terror attacks, including car-rammings, shootings, stabbings and bombings targeting innocent men, women and children on the streets of Israel. This is the reality on the ground. On 10 February, for example, a Palestinian drove his car into a crowded bus stop, killing three people, including two brothers aged six and eight. ” https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/24/israel-was-hit-by-5000-palestinian-terror-attacks-in-2022-it-has-to-defend-itself
It is simply not as one sided an issue as you keep insisting.
Here is an article on a major sticking point to ever having peace in the area- the right of return. Jews think that have it and Arab Palestinians think they have it. There is no accommodation- not the slightest- in either.
https://time.com/5273108/back-to-the-future-israeli-palestinian-conflict/q
Here is an article on what Arab Palestinians call the Nakba- the movement by violence of Arab Palestinians before the founding what became Israel in 1948.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/5/15/the-nakba-five-palestinian-towns-massacred-75-years-ago
Here is another in which the UN attempted to resolve the fighting between Jews and Arabs prior to 1948. Which, despite referring to the current involvement of the UN now, basically they set up this forever war.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba
And here is information about the conflicts between Jews and Arabs, Arabs and Arabs, Ottomans and Arabs prior to the end if WWII.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercommunal_conflict_in_Mandatory_Palestine
Because education is sadly lacking in comments in preference to overheated rhetoric.
Finally here in a history of Zionism-“Persecution of Jews played a key role in preserving Jewish identity and keeping Jewish communities transient, it would later provide a key role in inspiring Zionists to reject European forms of identity.”
So if commenters here can’t keep their hateful rhetoric under control, they should at least read about where it leads.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Zionism
You seem to regard any mention of Israel’s oppression of the Palestinians, from unequal treatment and arbitrary imprisonment to torture and genocide as “hateful rhetoric”.
It’s not anti-semitic to criticize the Israeli oppression of Palestinians and the genocidal attack on Gaza.
Not really. I regard the mention of nothing but the oppression of Palestinians without a single mention of their own violent participation in it as hateful rhetoric.
Truth.
I am so grateful to live in a country that does not have such an intractable history as Israel and the rest of the Middle East. Yet if we keep doing what we are doing, we may end up there.
If you had been repeatedly conquered and killed by the exact same group of people for over 4000 years, you might feel a little inclined towards violence toward that particular group. I can tell you one thing, if you had killed my family for generations, I definitely wouldn’t like you, and I would definitely shoot some bottle rockets at you too.
The War Comes Home-
What is happening in Gaza coming to your neighborhood soon! All you genocide lovers take note!
What is happening to Palestinian women and children will come home to US citizens; we already have israelis training our police forces (see Cop City)…the techniques in play in Gaza today are experiments for future conflicts with POWER.
The hatefulness it burns~yall should be ashamed of yourselves
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2024/04/the-wars-increasingly-come-home.html
Wikipedia can be edited by anybody. Not a good source comrade
Yes, we can all search and read the same articles. But nothing changes the fact that the Israeli government has oppressed the Palestinians as a core value of state policy since its founding in 1948.
And here I thought it was the Arab states that attacked Israel in 1948 right after being granted the land by the United Nations. My memory must also be slipping because I could have sworn it was the Arabs who refused a two state solution in 1948 that was proposed by the UN. Israel agreed to the two state proposition if I recall, but instead the Arabs tried to wipe out Israel, which didn’t quite go as planned.
That’s a gross oversimplification of a multi faceted and complex history. Neither side embraced the U.N. Palestine Plan of Partition.
In 1948, the Jews accepted the partition plan of Palestine. The Arabs launched armies against Israel after rejecting the plan. In 1967 and around 2000 multiple settlements were proposed including a Palestinian entity, yet the Arabs again rejected peace.
Truth be Told is telling falsehoods and won’t accept facts.
I stand by my original statement.
Jewish leadership publicly accepted the U.N. Plan of Partition since it provided for creation of a Jewish state, giving the Jews 55% of the land of Palestine although they had only 1/3 the population and owned 5-7% of the land.
There were many other injustices with the plan which made it unacceptable to the Arab population of Palestine.
But while the Jews were happy to accept creation of a state that hadn’t previously existed, they almost universally saw it as a stepping stone to securing a greater Israel.
It’s telling that the Israeli Declaration of Independence cited no boundaries.
Jewish leadership was also clear from the beginning that a large portion of the Arab population needed to be removed from within the borders of Israel.
Yes, the bordering Arab nations (who had their own conflicting agendas) entered Palestine the day after Israeli independence was declared.
But this ignores that fighting was already occurring within Palestine with the Jews fighting to secure the land designated for them via partition while also seeking to expand into the Arab partition zone and the proposed international zone around Jerusalem and Bethlehem.
“Acceptance” of the Plan of Participation was always seen as a starting point.
There was no acceptance that lands designated for the Arabs would remain under Arab control.
The continuing occupation, discrimination and oppression experienced by Palestinians in the West Bank is proof of this as is the genocidal destruction of Gaza.
If you are going to quote someone, you should attribute it appropriately.
I didn’t quote anyone – the comments are my own.
But you can search for David Ben Gurion quotes if you want confirmation.
Hey Rex, How come you never discuss IRGUN once? You know, the early murderous Zionist terrorist group attacking without provocation Palestinians? What’s your agenda Rex, who hired you? Truth be Told is not telling falsehoods. King David was an assassin and Bathsheba’s adulterous lover. You must be so proud to use his name for your Zionist rants. Makes sense.
You keep pretending there’s some sort of equilibrium between Israel and the Palestinians, but there isn’t.
Israel HAS a “right of return” but it applies only to Jews, including Jews who never left – who have no historical connection to Israel whatsoever. But it doesn’t apply to Palestinians who fled their homes in terror following Jewish massacres of unarmed civilians.
There isn’t any equilibrium but not because Israelis are born to be oppressors. Nor because the US supports Israel. It because the Arabs and Persian sectors of Islam absolutely insist on attacking each other with even more vigor than they ever spend on attacking Israel. And in the absence of that, fighting about fighting.
There is zero chance of achieving peace (admittedly a microscopic chance otherwise) in Palestine as long as there is a Islamic martyrdom philosophy using Palestinians as proxy wars. Israel dominates because it is not interested in fighting other Jews. That is the nature of a youthful government. It has idealism. On the other hand, Palestinians have martyrology. How can it expect to succeed against Israel in protecting its people when glorious failure is more valued than more nitty gritty of success?
What I really despise is bring that martyrologistic fanaticism into US politics.
If your last sentence refers to the idiotic occupation of buildings then we agree.
The Palestinians never left. The Jews did. They are claiming a “right to return” based on the last time Israel controlled that entire area of land, which was 951B.C., yes, you read that right, the Jews are trying to expel people who have lived in that land for thousands of years based on an ancient civilization that existed over 3000 years ago. If you don’t turn over all of your land right now to the Native Americans then you sir, are a flaming hypocrite of the highest order. I believe hypocrites should burn in eternal hellfire by the way, they are the most complete garbage of people.
Another interesting bit of historical fact: do any of you know who exactly the Palestinians are? Answer: The Palestinians are the direct descendants of the ancient Phillistines. The Phillistines were the inhabitants of the land of Canaan, which was conquered by the Israelites in ancient times and then parceled out between the 12 tribes of Israel, with the Jews(tribe of Judah), only receiving a fraction of the land then, that they claim now.
So there is no supposed “right to return.” How can one return to a land that they conquered and lost over and over again for thousands of years when the true original inhabitants have never left and have weathered every conquest of the Israelis? History is not your friend on this one.
Sounds good, but it’s not actually true. The Canaanites and the Phillistines were non-Semitic peoples. The Palestinians are Arabs, who are semites, as are the Jews. The Jews have an older claim on the land based on archaeological records, but neither group is truly indigenous to the region.The claim that the Palestinians are the “true original inhabitants “ is false. It’s propaganda meant to sway people who don’t know any better.
The canaanites and phillistines were conquered by the Israelis. They were there first. It’s a fact. The Palestinians are the phillistines. That’s a fact. I pulled that info from an old book that goes over all that history. You are misunderstood. How can the ancient inhabitants of the levant not be semites? How can the phillistines not be semites but the Palestinians be semites when they are one and the same? The Jews have a claim on the small portion of Israel just north of Egypt (Judah), not the whole place. Most of those “jews” are Ashkenazi, which are a mix of Turkic and Slavic blood. They’re families have never lived within 1000 miles of the land they are trying to claim for their own. Bibi Netanyahu is friggin Greek. You are just plain wrong!
You are obviously a propagandist for Israel. False claims about the history of a region, that any deep dive into will show.
The power asymmetry is insane.
Palestinian “attacks” have a near zero chance of damage while Israeli attacks are devastating by default.
It isn’t one sided but it also isn’t a clash of equivalent powers
Israel has killed 30 times as many Palestinians compared to the number of Israelies that were killed by Hamas…
US killed a thousand to one after 9/11 so US in no position to lecture anyone on restraint
Really…???
Very predictable, I knew that response would be coming…
Seems to me like the US feels it is in fact in a position to not only lecture about restraint, but that it’s in a position to teach Palestinians a lesson about lack of restraint, but not the Israelies…
Somehow, I guess, it was only the Palestinians that you feel needed to exercise restraint…???
It is genocide. And far from eradicating Hamas, NetanYAHOO has guaranteed there will be new generations of jihadists.
Thanks for admitting [edit] that Israel is indiscriminately slaughtering men, women and children in Gaza.
As opposed to Palestinians being so discriminating? You’re being totally disingenuous.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/1ce9041/children_of_palestine/
look at her…you fuckers are A-OK with killing her and anyone like her
LOOK AT HER
FUCK ISRAEL and anyone who supports this genocide of the Palestinian people…also known as SEMITES
NOT IN MY NAME
Knowing this , it shows how little regard Hamas has for their own people when the chose to start the conflict back on Oct. 7th.
Overkill is not reasonable self-defense. If someone gets beat up and that person then goes and murders everyone in the family of the perpetrator they will be in far bigger trouble than the original perpetrator. We killed far more of our own and innocents abroad after 9/11 than the terrorists managed to on that horrible day in NY, though it is clear now that WMD were a hoax to justify barging into other countries and killing innocents and sending in our own young ignorant kids to do so and be horribly injured themselves.
Hamas has not stopped shooting rockets, has not tried to surrender, has not agreed to release hostages.
THEY are the reason the war continues.
Yeah man, those Palestinians should just shut up and die already
/sarc
Ahh yes, and don’t forget who it was that lobbied congress and told them they would find WMD in Iraq. Our beloved Benjamin Netanyahu
Anyone that is under the foolish false impression that “the conflict” “started” “on Oct 7th”, and not before, is as delusional as their attention span is short.
What a completely ridiculous notion to even suggest…
As in,
“Yes of course everything was honky-dory and lovey-dovy between inseparable bosom-buddies Israel and Palestine, who all got along famously, at any and all times, prior to the events of Oct 7, 2023, everybody knows that, right…???”
Is that what you REALLY believe…???
…Because it’s pure drivel…
?♂️
Beside asking yourself if the ugliness of the attacks when they had a certainty of failure is a valid tactic, you need to ask yourself why and how a people who dominated a territory by so vast an amount as the Arabs did in Palestine, and had done so for centuries, could have lost so much in just 75 years. Then take counsel from the answers. It not enough to criticize Israel.
You seem to propose nothing but to criticize Palestinians and absolve Israel.
No one has dominated that territory for centuries, it has long been a border land of empires and its population has generally been blended over the millenia from levantine, Mediterranean, Arabic, berber, and Bedouin populations.
There’s plenty to criticize the various Palestinian governments about, and that criticism is aired quite regularly. But the scope and scale of Israeli violence (fully propped up by American military support even while Israel has acted like anything but an ally to us) is truly astonishing.
And ultimately, the main request of these protests is a request to US institutions. And it’s a reasonable request, even if I personally think it’s futile.
400 years of Ottoman rule gave Arab immigrants access to control of Palestine. It simultaneously excluded Jewish immigrants from buying land by law until after the end of WWI.
But still Zionists purchased land through organizations. Arab Palestinians, while many sold land to these groups, violently protested. From the earliest Zionist immigration. There was no hidden plot. Everyone knew what was going on. But no organization was ever forged between various local Islamic groups to give any local government the power to protect locals. They fought with each other instead.
Now it is simply way too late to keep up the fiction of a united Palestinian people being dispossessed and abused by a superior power. Palestinians still demand fixing everything back to what it was through violence to a time when they held all the power at one point yet still can’t stop abusing each other long enough to hold act in concert.
Free Palestinians means dead Israelis because that is what they have always chosen to do with power. That attitude can’t be surgically attached to the US by protesters for their own proxy fights without that same social liability being grafted on too. If pro Palestinian supporters can’t see the cracks that attempt has already had in the facade of US identity then it is obvious little will make a dent in that obliviousness now. They have chosen the same petty tribal politics leading to the same failures that plague Arab Palestinians. That attitude has been growing for some time but here it is delivered in astounding simplicity. For those willing to look.
You’re conveniently ignoring the many thousands of acts of violence visited by the Israeli armed forces and settlers on innocent Palestinians.
And please quit pretending the contending parties are somehow similarly situated.
They aren’t.
I am not ignoring it. Once a State has formed out of a genetic identity, there was no alternative but acting on it. It is and always accepted by Israelis even as they find their own actions distasteful.
However you seem to feel that Israelis have an obligation to restraint their behavior while Palestinians don’t.
Israelis do not value multi ethnicity. Neither do the Palestinans. Having ethnicities on both sides of that fundamental divide means the US can not be oblivious to the downsides their both attitudes. All we can do it is try to not let that behavior drive more of a wedge between Americans than already exists. We can value our own diverse ethnicity enough to not to force judgements on ourselves by their values.
So far, Hamas launched 13,000 rockets at Israel which indiscriminately can kill civilians, a war crime.
If America were attack by 13,000 rockets, anyone who did that would be attacked immediately.
The largely ineffectual Hamas rockets are a war crime? But Israel’s genocidal attacks on and wholesale destruction of Gaza is not? Got it!
That’s relatively weak…
This time around, in this conflict, it’s Hamas that wields the comparative “sling” against the much more dangerously weaponed foe, not any Israeli…
That you should be able to fully comprehend…
From January 4 , 2024, just one week short of being from FOUR MONTHS AGO …
“Israel has dropped more than 45,000 bombs on Gaza weighing more than 65,000 tonnes, the Gaza Media Office has said.
“Occupation aircraft dropped over 45,000 missiles and giant bombs, some of them weighing 2,000 pounds of explosives, during the comprehensive genocidal war on the Gaza Strip, deliberately targeting entire residential areas,” it said.
“The weight of the explosives dropped by the army on the Gaza Strip exceeded 65,000 tonnes, which is more than the weight and power of three nuclear bombs like those dropped on the Japanese city of Hiroshima.”
………………..
What would you imagine the cumulative Israeli strike totals on Gaza is by now, considering the war has been going on for more than twice as long now, than it had by the time the Israeli strike totals on Gaza listed above were tallied…?
Double…???
Your 13,000 Hamas missile count total is current, AFAIK.
Israel just needs more land, this is a land grab and a genocide by Israel and nothing else
Yes. And this is water front land too = $$$$$!!!
With some of the largest natural gas reserves on the planet just offshore, the Gaza gas fields are valued at a nice $1 trillion dollars.
Huge money in rebuilding contracts, companies are already fighting about who gets to rebuild Gaza… go figure, the region is gorgeous, now war torn, but all that aid and rebuilding money will be pilfered b u US and Israeli OLIGARCHS WITH KICKBACKS TO POLITICIANS.
ALL ABOUT THE $$$$$ AND POWER AND RELIGIOUS BS
100% land grab
Why did NetanYAHOO support the rise of Hamas?
You assume a false fact, because the last thing Israel is doing is committing genocide which is the extermination of a national or racial group. In fact military experts claim Israel has done the most extraordinary job in avoiding the death of civilians during urban war. Israel has killed 14,000 Hams terrorist and at the most the same number of civilians. That’s a 1:1 ratio. We didn’t get close to that number in Iraq. The aim of Israel’s action is to eliminate the terrorist government of Hamas which did attempt genocide on Jews on October 7th.
You have been taught by people who are deliberately plugging into the social justice cookie cutter of colonialism, oppression, and genocide. In the case of Israel, to assert any of these accusations against Israel is a blood liable.
False facts? Me? Ha!
NetanYAHOO did favor the rise of Hamas as a counter to the PA. He feared Palestinian political unity might upset his efforts to prevent Palestinian statehood.
And despite your constant shilling for Israel and your Goebbels-like efforts to minimize the genocidal destruction of Gaza, the Truth of what’s taking place is clear
If Israel was in fact genocidal, all Palestinians would already be dead.
If Gazans were not genocidal, they would not have dug up the water pipes to makes rockets to kill Israelis.
It’s like one side of this argument doesn’t even bother reading what is in the Hamas Charter. Or else they’re okay with actual genocide.
Gaza was an Open Air prison since the British Oligarchs established Israel for the Polish Jewish Survivors of WW2.
It was a strategic placement in the middle of the Muslim world , perfect for military bases, that’s why it’s called The State of Israwl, just another state of THE USA, OUR 52 STATE!
HAHAHAHAHAH
Israel is committing genocide. The problem for your argument is that the Russia/Ukraine war is occurring simultaneously. We have just entered our third year of that war and there have been less than 15,000 civilians killed. Israel has killed more civilians in a few months than both Ukraine and Russia combined have killed in 3 years. Comparing a morally bankrupt army(IDF) with the world’s worst army(US) isn’t exactly a good comparison. Israel is committing genocide, the US loses every war it fights, except Granada. Remember Granada, our Marines really gave those 3 Cubans whatfor
After Israel levels all the homes in Gaza, not surprisingly it generates generational extreme hatred, terrorists
I know! Israelis would never ever do that!!
get real
I hope that’s sarcasm. ?
If that is even true, how would you feel if your land was stolen and occupied and “settlers” continued their expansion and used violence against you? (fact)
Are you talking about Israel or North America?
Actually I think there is a great similarity to what the European settlers did to the Native Americans to what the Israeli’s did/are doing to the Palestinians so, in answer to your question, BOTH.
And there is the bottom line with the attraction of pro Palestinian demographics. It’s a proxy war inside a proxy war wrapped in a proxy war. If it wasn’t, the ugliness parts of Palestinian society would be acknowledged.
The Zionist invaders are literally stealing their land day after day. It’s an ongoing thing, not something in the past. Most of of people killed by the Israeli war machine are women and children, not Hamas soldiers.
If you steal peoples land and kill their women and children they will want to murder you.
Go back a little further in history.
Palestinians wanted to murder Jews when they controlled 90% of the land and had 90% of the population. The Ottomans barred Jews from immigrating or purchasing any land., while encouraging Arab immigration.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region)
Most of the Jews left over 1500 years ago. Its totally cool to visit your “homeland” on a vacation but once you’ve been gone for over 1000 years you lose your land rights.
The Palestinians had no problem with the Jews until they showed up in mass with weapons and big sense of entitlement.
Jews never left the land of Israel. There were always Jews in Jerusalem and Safat. The Arabs? Read Mark Twain’s trip to Israel. There were almost no Arabs from what is now far northern Israel to Jerusalem. And those who were there, many were brought in by the Ottomans. Only the Jews have an ancient claim to the land of Israel.
Besides the colonial Romans and Ottomans occupied the land using force.
While there always was a small remnant population of Jews in Palestine the vast majority of Zionists immigrated from Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East very recently. Their ancestors left over 1000 years ago.
Using your logic if you have an ancestor from anywhere in the world, you have the divine right to move there, steal the land of the current inhabitants, and murder them. Even if your ancestors Left the place thousands of years ago.
My ancestors left Europe a few hundred years ago. Do you think it would be OK for me and a bunch of other Americans to move over there and massacre the Europeans and take their land?
It was never “Palestine”, if you want to be accurate.
Actually it’s been Palestine for 2000 years. The Jews have had crappy deal throughput history, I’m sorry the Romans kicked them out and everything that’s happened since then. But engaging in genocide will not bring them happiness or security.
The Romans didn’t kick them out. But plenty of others have exiled them.
Read up on the Jewish Diaspora.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_diaspora
Do they know that Children in Israel are taught to hate Muslim people?
The trespassers should be removed as gently as possible. All trespasser crimes should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Additionally, the university should take disciplinary action against anyone who has broken their rules.
Law enforcement should go through and clean house. None of this “oh, pretty please, come out” crap.
These students are simply screwing up what so many others have worked for.
It’s like the idiotic protesters that block traffic. As soon as that happens, I lose all support and sympathy for them.
How does CHANGE HAPPEN?
By being polite and asking nicely?
Look around-most of us have ZERO REPRESENTATION in congress
Millionaires/Billionaires control our government and make policy that is INHUMANE and against LIFE
MONEY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LIFE in these here unites states
boofuckinghoo about your ‘inconvenience’ HISTORY IS BEING MADE
When one’s right to protest infringes on the rights of another, it is not longer a right. It becomes a crime.
I’ve watched lots of police videos and the ones where the cops repeat themselves over and over yet do nothing while some idiot perp blathers on and on are the most annoying wastes of time. The no-nonsense cops who tell them once or twice to comply and then smash their car window or take them to the ground if they don’t, now those are some satisfying moments. Break laws or ignore lawful commands and you deserve what you get. It’s very simple.
Laws apply on both sides. “Get what you deserve” is not within LE rights..there are specific rules that LE must follow also. And self-defense is legal so lots to unpack about what is being defended and how. Over-kill might get some pent up entitlement-driven people a way to unleash their anger over issue and it is not legal nor prudent. I bet you’d bring tar and feathers and perhaps even ropes to a mob approach and support LE being a gang of blue too.
How much does it cost to attend the school? They should be able to sleep wherever they want if it’s $200 a night.
If a bunch of old lames swathed in Vicks vapo-rub brought up bologna cream cheese burritos and started swing dancing, I bet the youth would disperse in a jiffy.
Let’s all take a deep breath and relax. This is what students do and how they learn. Are we forgetting that hands-on experience is the best teacher? These kids are learning far more than they can in a classroom. It’s all happened before. Remember the campus food riots, the Vietnam War protests, and the Civil Rights unrest of the 1960s?
And Kent State on May 4, 1970. 54 years ago.
I can’t get that out of my head, either, Kym.
Tin soldiers and Nixon coming
We’re finally on our own
This summer I hear the drumming
Four dead in Ohio
Four dead in Ohio (four)
Four dead in Ohio (I said four, I said four)
Four dead in Ohio (how many more?)
Four dead in Ohio (why?)
Four dead in Ohio (I wanna know why)
Four dead in Ohio (you better tell me why)
Four dead in Ohio (why?)
Four dead in Ohio (why did they die?)
Four dead in Ohio (you tell me why)
Four dead in Ohio (I said why)
Four dead in Ohio (I wanna know why)
Ohio/Neil Young
Watch out, Kym, this version of Ohio is (possibly too) powerful.
https://youtu.be/TRE9vMBBe10?si=7vPM8qQMmCyM05Nv
The video includes many evocative photos.
Oh, please! Must we keep invoking Kent State and the irrational specter of live fire?
But since you bring it up, why is Jackson State forgotten?
Is it because the murders of black students at Jackson State were grounded in racism and not considered newsworthy while the murders of privileged white kids at Kent State was shocking?
Or maybe because I know the sister of Allison Krause. and don’t know anyone related to the victims of Jackson State which like many second events doesn’t get the same attention as first events.
That explains why you don’t remember Jackson State but doesn’t explain how you think Kent State compares to the current situation.
Article likely coming if I can squeeze out time comparing these situations.
The students were throwing bricks at rotc students who had no ammunition and the four dead were killed by warning shots fired in the air, illegally, by their officer, who also was supposed to have an unloaded weapon.
Kent State’s 4 dead were killed because people paid by the KGB (read the Venona Papers) started a violent mob attack on innocent people.
Two completely different situations. Jackson State thing was nothing like what happened at Kent State.
The similarity is that unarmed and mostly uninvolved students were fired upon indiscriminately.
Humboldt State College’s Student Body President in 1970 was Bill Richardson, a popular football player for the Green and Gold, who made the very same point while talking with a group of young predominantly white anti-war activists on campus. Bill was African American and he told us about the Jackson State shooting. Your point is valid. Black people being shot in the South was so common, it went mostly unnoticed and mostly unreported.
They will learn a lot better in jail and by being expelled.
I know! The NERVE protesting genocide of innocent civilians!!!
wtf IS WRONG WITH YOU?
Great, go protest!
But do it at the courthouse or the sidewalk.
They do not have a right to take over a campus.
Do any of these students see the irony of protesting Israel’s “occupation” by going and occupying land and property they do not own?
They were “protesting” that day and missed the lesson.
Since you’re so opposed to the murder of innocent civilians, it just makes sense that you oppose Hamas and condemn their actions on October 7th. Right?
NOPE \
The Palestinians as an OCCUPIED PEOPLE have every right to resist.
Israel is the AGGReSSOR here mate has been for over 70 years
Winner takes all losers get lost
MIGHT MAKE RIGHT
gotcha
how far we have fallen
“These kids are learning far more than they can in a classroom.” Sorry, but as a teacher, that statement is nonsense.
But as a teacher, those students are paying your wage, so…
More likely their parents, who probably want them in class instead.
Non sequitur. Learning happens regardless of the source…
Comparing this disjointed rambling “cause” to the urgency of opposing the expanding involvement of the Vietnam War into Cambodia by United States military forces, and the draft at the time of an entire generation of young men which was the reason for the protests you mention , is idiotic and myopic. It’s laughable to think these self-absorbed radicals-without-direction believe that CalPoly is somehow the correct target for their Palestinian sympathies and anti semitic bigotry. Anyone who says they fully understand the Middle East situation is lying. Students need to be finishing their semester and year. They don’t need this ridiculous and at this point criminal ” occupation ” of the campus. For people who claim to not approve of power-tripping arsh0lz limiting your freedoms, they sure act like some.
Thank you!
I personally loved them playing 60’s music I heard in one video. Like, stop. My folks were alive for all their heros getting murdered, RFK,MLK,JFK,Civil rights workers,Malcolm, etc. and then they got Nixon and the draft. Terrible times. Congress and Ole Joe delivered 95 billion to war mongers everywhere, just last week. They don’t care what you think , or what I think. It’s just corruption, greed, in its purest form.
remember yes, approve of, no.
Let’s not forget when the Nazis expelled all Jews from campus and displaced every Jewish professor. Now that was a revolution that perhaps some of the current occupiers yearn for?
For the river to the sea mean genocide of all Jews., That is Hamas’ goal. And these “innocent” protestors are furthering the aims of Hamas whose publicity guy cheered them on yesterday.
They had plenty of opportunity to come out peacefully. Once they rejected that offer, they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
What has demented Genocide Joe Biden had to say about college protests nationwide? Nothing at all because he sent billions to Hamas and Iran before the terrorist attack on Israel, now funding the leveling of Gaza, next he’ll expect the US to borrow hundreds of billions to rebuild the damn place. Senile Uncle Joe has enough trouble trying not to shit his pants (which he’s done several times) much less come up with an original thought. Wonder why his handlers haven’t come up with a script for Joe to attempt to read, must be trying to play both sides, Hamas sympathizers and Israel supporters. Personally, Squirrel believes the US taxpayers shouldn’t be borrowing money to supply weapons to Israel or Ukraine, let the conflicted parties sort out their disputes by their own means without dragging America into it, exposing us to terrorist attacks.
Dementia Joe got us into this shit on campuses, General domestic turmoil, and societal collapse everywhere you look!
I wonder if Bechtel will be awarded a no-bid contract to rebuild Palestine?
Haliburton got the last one so it’s Bechtel’s turn
Didn’t Biden just send money to Israel?
The funding was approved by both houses of Congress.
sending more billions to other countries…for WAR
when we need some attention (understatement) at home
Yeah, he’s a demented old pant-shitting, hair-sniffing, bumbling, mumbling, stumbling idiot. Yes, he’s the biggest joke of a president in my lifetime, by far. So easy to make fun of, I doubt anyone can top it unless someone worse like Kamala or AOC ever gets into that position. Trump is also easy to make fun of with his hair and all, but imo he’s actually entertaining at times with his trolling and obnoxious NY attitude. I still get tired of either side blaming everything on whichever president is in office. It’s not like the president has some total control over all of these things. We never have any business interfering in other countries affairs.
That attitude brought us World War II.
Trying to wrap my head around why you think Biden “sent billions to Hamas and Iran”. Are you living on another planet? Or under a particularly large rock?
Biden Regime immediately after assuming office discontinued enforcement of Iran oil export sanctions and they resumed funneling billions through UN to Gaza Hamas. It’s been on all the news
Well get wrapping. Cause he did just send billions to Ukraine and Israel and Taiwan.
So Joe has dementia but he was smart enough to steal the election and outsmart trump? Lmao, what does that say about the Great orange hope?
Nice try. Sleepy Joe is not running anything. The guy can barely function most of the time. He’s the most meme worthy president ever. Someone else is “handling” him, obviously.
The man behind Biden is Obama.
I mean, if that’s true, I feel a little better?
Those controlling the teleprompter are “President”
I saw video from the inside of Siemans Hall and all of the vandalism that has occurred, is that video available on RHBB?
O NOS NOT VANDALIZM!!!
meanwhile in Isn’treal/US kills kids and mothers doctors journalists
ties up hands and buries them still alive
FUCK ISRAEL
Why don’t you keep your “F”s to terrorists and murderers rather than to an entire Country?
nope * fuck israel *
fuck them again and again just like they’re doing to innocent women and children
fuck them and anyone who thinks this is OK
Your Hugo Boss order is being delayed….
Here’s some video from inside Siemens showing the destruction
https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/1784271868909793550?t=z3ACr8uvBCtQnINCgX8FWA&s=19
Another thread with video on CPH embarrassment
https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1784277079917518969?t=bown6enn9I14hfnDj_trqA&s=19
?♂️
More videos from CPH and comment thread
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1784065953405247684?t=WK20A078HaMm4KbE35KuBg&s=19
That’s Awesome!
It’s in an article https://kymkemp.com/2024/04/26/sheriff-honsal-visits-cph-as-protestors-opt-out-of-safe-exit-offer-siemens-hall-opens/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3OrTlZxO3if-pzLUZoUI29-8n_N3t0oY99nxXImjes7PVFNZBxi1aeTUs_aem_AdkkI9CmBT5uwhSauD2M8EgfUtOjAI8Ixg_TyPDrXAKDamIAOLVx9TNk0Y-J6EvgCSuxoKFc4lkuyBcb1wcDZR0p but you can see it directly here: https://www.facebook.com/RedheadedBlackbelt/videos/408367932044811
Looks like all the tough guy keyboard warriors are about to get what they’ve been screaming for. Cops cracking skulls while they sit warm and snuggly behind their screens. Enjoy
Thanks. They better start pretty soon my popcorn is getting cold.
????
Cops are not going to crack skulls, but, who knows what will happen when they meet the inmates at Humboldt County jail.
You got a great imagination, these are students not child molesters.
I seriously doubt the tweekers in the Humboldt co Jail give one single fuck about any of this
You might be surprised. Knuckleheads that land in jail don’t exactly have the best mental skills.
Only if these “protesters” resist. That’s what may happen if you don’t comply with lawful orders from police. They could get lucky and have wussy police try to talk them down endlessly, so no one’s feelings get hurt.
Hi Kym, the last 2 updates from 1:56 and 3:10 don’t appear to be showing in the article.
Are you still not seeing them?
Refresh…
Be safe LEOs.
Yeah like when they deployed pepper gas bomb in Eureka in the narrow hallway where overloaded with 50 lbs of uniform gear made their maneuvering look like a bunch of bowling pins stuffed in to a box and their tank sitting outside didn’t protect them from not having gas masks during their own deploy in a small space. They need protection from themselves which would be Keystone Cops funny if they didn’t in their bumbling tear streamed antics video shoot a man who was surrendering .
is such danger !!
poor poor po po
Deploy the giant fishnet guns followed by the stink bombs to drive them out of their hidey holes. It’s time to do some cement fishing! Hee haw.
Definitely going to need that bulldozer…
What is their point of putting the barricade back at the east entrance of Siemens Hall. They can’t barricade buildings.
The campus responded to their 6 demands in a reasonable clear fashion. They should have moved out and contued their protest in a way that does not disrup another persons education or freedom of movement. Instead, they dismissed the response, remained in the building, valdalized the place, and allegedly stole from the very institution that allows them the right to protest. This is now no longer a protest when they choose criminal acts as part of their message.
Free speech yes, but the does not guarantee consequences. No matter the cause, you can’t trespass, occupy, and disrupt just because you want to.
These are the very real consequences of you actions pure and simple
Yeah, what impressively strong convictions they have — “I want to break laws for my cause, but please promise me I won’t get into any trouble or I’ll keep breaking laws”.
This is interesting.
The J6 protesters got years in jail. Why not these A-holes. The paid protesters need hard time in jail. The students can work at Mds for $20 and hour the rest of their lives.
Lol, as if Cal Poly Humboldt is remotely comparable to the United States Capitol at the time of certifying a presidential election.
looks like a bunch of vandals
Tourists. It’s campus tour season.
I have no problem with non violent protest but the vandalism and damage they are doing is uncalled for. And when the say cops were beating them the large water bottle swung first and the stick in the air. the students being smashed in the middle was them pushing not the cops.
Not of interest anymore. Nothing to see here. Give it a rest.
Are they allowing the press on campus? There needs to be witness to whatever is going to happen.
We have a reporter on Campus and KMUD has one also. So far, everything is peaceful.
Thank you, and the reports here are really great to keep up on what is happening up there. Having local reporters there is so essential, I know it’s a lot of commitment for local reporters to be up there and staying on scene so again thank you!!
Thank you!
What press? It’s not like we have Fox, MSNBC, etc., and besides, no one wants to drive up here to Humboldt for all this dribble.
So ironic you are having the ability to spout off on a site which is the product of hard work done by Kym Kemp and her team of journalists that you apparently rely upon if for nothing else to publish your comments. Fox MSNBC etc are less independent and yet far better funded than our own local news site here.
These protesters want national coverage which they are not going to get according to my son in law who works for a national news agency. He indicated that major news outlets, i.e., MSNBC, Fox, etc. will not be coming to Humboldt (unless of course something extreme happens) due to the drive/air to get here, as it is easier to get to the major cities and see the same shit happening at those universities. This was not an attack on Kym or any other media in our area.
When I said “dribble”, I meant the protester’s dribble.
“Dribble”?
Perhaps you meant “drivel” of which there’s no shortage all around!
I used to tell my kids, “quit dribbling around and do your homework”. Like dribbling a ball around and going nowhere.
Pro-Israel Groups pay ‘protesters’ $50,000 to smear students and activists…
https://twitter.com/HotSpotHotSpot/status/1782754289888170412?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1782754289888170412|twgr^a023c7b81f4594774168adfcdc16c4cc838ff1fa|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nakedcapitalism.com%2F2024%2F04%2Ffree-speech-on-the-ropes-legislation-to-revoke-not-for-profit-status-of-organizations-that-support-palestine-protests-passes-in-house.htm
Yep organic as hell…COINTELPRO tactics
“Those that make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable…” JFK
I read it on twitter. it must be true.
Tell the truth .The students are gone now it is professional protesters.
They are requesting no academic consequences. That doesn’t make much sense if they aren’t students.
That’s a false flag to throw of suspicion. These Soros funded paid protestors are smart.
it’s awfully suspicious that they picked some college in far Northern California to appear at. What is their real purpose?
Why did this erupt at a usually peaceful college campus? More is going on here than meets the eye.
But I am sure we will get to the bottom of things.
Seriously though I hope this all ends peacefully.
Don’t want to see CPH on the National news because violence erupted.
I need a job. Where do I apply?
Everywhere, if you’re serious.
Bulldozer? Bringing in the scoops like Soylent Green..
“ And if the police take action at this point,…the administration needs…to respond to why they were not willing to negotiate with the students.”
I’ll respond.
You don’t negotiate with terrorists!
Yes, ‘terrorists’ is a bit harsh, but the sentiment still applies.
If you came home from vacation and there were a dozen people living in tents in your front yard, would you negotiate with them and listen to their demands or would you call the cops to haul their butts out of there?
These students are all breaking the law… period.
It is not a free speech issue, it is a trespassing issue.
Hopefully they leave peacefully and no one gets hurt.
Biden worried about losing youth vote, released video supporting their protests:
https://twitter.com/robertdunlap947/status/1784244880371294532?t=fv7qndPaD8QaZWarMa3TBA&s=19
Catch 22..damned if he don’t listen to the will of the people and damned if he do, eh?
”If you came home from vacation and there were a dozen people living in tents in your front yard, would you negotiate with them and listen to their demands or would you call the cops to haul their butts out of there?” You’re describing Palestinians except not so priviledged they were just working hard and present when not soft tents but massive machinery and massacre destroyed their cities, not just a yard. Your analogy is myopic and your privilege is showing.
You nailed it.
I have a solution, let’s begin negotiating once Hamas releases the hostages
I know…how about isn’treal release the Pals they’re holding without charge FOR YEARS
huh?
The irony coming to the pro Hamas protesters cannot be lost. The building renamed Intifada Hall by the criminal protestors is about to live up to its namesake. Any violence is exactly what they asked for and provoked.
Repulsive.
Asking the University to “divest” from any entity “supporting “or goods “produced” by Israel is not a well-considered request . Do these airheads and apparently now some of their professors know how many companies they are asking them to not do any business with?
FROM REDDIT THREAD on alleged purpose of this insane protest:
“it’s not like they’re investing in “Israel Weapons Company.” ?
And it’s not like it’s (that) easy to invest in a specific index, that’s usually market-cap weighted, and then pick-and-choose the specific companies to not include, particularly since it’s often not clear which companies to not include and why. Whose hands are clean?
They can’t work with Google or Microsoft, so how are they supposed to operate?
Every single index fund has companies on the divest list, so now they have to hope individual trading will meet pension obligations?
The people demanding divestment are simply not taking this seriously! They aren’t putting in any effort to what divest actually means and are asking for an impossible solution.”
This is the biggest problem with this protest movement and its request. And it’s also the biggest failing on the administration response side.
They could have gone in the first day and said, “OK, we agree. We want to divest from Israeli companies and those that support Israel. Let’s set up a committee that represents your group and we’ll work with you to sort out what that means.”
If the protestors hadn’t accepted that then a police response would have been much more readily accepted by the community. And if the protestors had accepted it, the whole process could have been combined into a regular forum on campus that would have been quite educational about the true complexity of our modern globalized financial system as well as a good exploration of the true scope of entanglement with Israel.
This could have been an opportunity to learn about respectful conflict resolution and explore a nuanced and complex topic like adults. Instead, the supposed adults in the situation modeled violence and aggression as the appropriate response to conflict and created a battle of stubborn persistence where no one is likely to learn anything useful
“Every single index fund has companies on the divest list, so now they have to hope individual trading will meet pension obligations?” Part of the problem is that pension and other public health and basic social services are tied to the purse strings of billionaires who don’t pay their fair share of taxes; those pensions could via those taxes and other spending priority shifts could be provided via a stable and more independent means of providing the economy of scale etc that our social services so despirately need. These kids grew up with parents or around friends with parents for whom pensions are mostly a thing of the past. For the basic working stiff there are no more pensions.
And you suggest what? Going about business as usual when education has taught them about history and standing up against Genocide? I don’t condone a bunch of damage to buildings (Graffiti that doesn’t slam a whole group such as “F” Isreal or “F” Palistine or whatever is no big deal and helps with getting the word out)
I suggest they get the f*** out of Siemens Hall, take down their dopey barricades, quit screaming in the streets , clean up all the damage they did to University property, vacate the campus ASAP and allow others to finish the semester and their year unimpeded.
HSU can’t solve the centuries – long dilemma in the Middle East by moving a few stocks and bonds or severing contracts. It’s naive and moronic to think they can. Use logic, the university will never be in a position to “divest” or separate themselves from the likes of Google or Microsoft All the colleges are absolutely tied into MicrosoftOffice, to a fault. The cluelessness is exasperating.
Hamas, like these kids , have chosen to pick a fight that only works with optics and public sympathy, they started the fight and don’t like the results, so tough shit kids, welcome to the real world
Welcome to asymmetrical warfare.
When one combatant is significantly weaker than the other they have to use tactics that play on potential sympathies of outsiders to gain an advantage
I loathe police violence on unarmed people — it’s unnecessary, it’s unproductive, and it tends to make things much worse.
However, I also despise people trying to avoid consequences for their choices — the students chose to protest in this specific way and should have to deal with the consequences of that choice, so no to academic amnesty. You knew the rules and you deliberately violated them. The biggest lesson almost everyone needs to learn at some point is responsibility for what you decide to do.
Agreed
That does sum it up pretty good.
I would add that I don’t think being expelled for trespass protesting is appropriate. Being responsible for damages, and a trespass ticket seams about right. Getting arrested for your beliefs is a legit statement and counts for something in my book.
Looking for a job etc. afterwards isn’t in your book though.
Do you mean they should put it on their resume? Or a protest arrest will stop them getting a job after? Im saying anyone willing to be arrested for a cause they believe gains at least some credibility. To me that shows, hopefully a thought out opinion and willingness to accept some consequences for their personal values.
Almost everyone…???
Really…???
Who all are you giving a pass to…???
Maybe people who have responsibility as part of their moral code without having to be taught a lesson? Or people who have even bigger lessons needed!
Maybe schmaybe…
Let Tim answer…
He’s the only one that knows who he gives a pass to…
Odd that you would think that you do…
Oh, forgot you don’t respond to, like every comment by everyone! My comment was speculative, and humorous, odd you don’t see that. lighten up
The New Yort Times posted a map of colleges where protests are going on. CPH is up there with a lot of the top colleges in the nation.
right up there with a bunch of assholes who belong in jail with the J6 cowed.
Wow. A labor union that supports inept over paid propeller heads supporting a liberal cause. What a surprise. Drag them out and stop letting this little tiny bit of students disrupt those that are actually interested in getting an education. Any faculty that supports this action should be dismissed.. period. While they claim to worry about students they obviously aren’t concerned about the 95% that aren’t self righteous bored dorks.
It pains me to see the citizens of this country express so much hatred toward each other. I know and understand that terrible things are happening in my homeland and in other places, but making more terrible things happen is not the answer.
Get a life. lol
Those who come to our camp can attend teach-ins and community gatherings, and be a part of organized food distribution, and clean up crews.
Lets send them all to Gaza to help with the problem. I will put in 100 for tickets. Non students jailed.
Any of you who were students are not any longer Restitution must be paid before release of non students. CPH had nothing to do with your mental instability.
Let’s not forget how this latest conflict started and who started it. Rape, murder, torture and kidnapping, I don’t blame the Israelis for pounding gaza into rubble, if it was my family I would respond the same way
Been proven to be more bullshit from the zionazi entity…but you know if you say it often enough…
We are making progress. Free Palestine! ?????????
No matter the final outcome of this situation, the entire episode will follow Cal Poly Humboldt President Tom Jackson for the remainder of his career and life. Professionally, he is toast in Humboldt County and very likely California. A completely ignominious end for him and quite a punishment that I suspect he never even fathomed and yet there he is. If the current situation escalates and gets particularly ugly, he may even live on in American history.
Mr. Tom Jackson has been completely ineffectual since the day he arrived. He should well go out in a flame of shame.
I was wondering to myself today, once again, “Why did they bring this bozo here”?!
WTH? The dude brought his dogs?
Not a good idea.
To make cph more resemble Gaza and add a certain realism maybe an air strike and some random tanks crushing various buildings for no particular reason? Give the students some actual combat experience. It would be extra credit.
coming ro a neighborhood near you!!
your violent wishes come true on you!
WE ARE ALL PALESTINIANS NOW
YOU ALLOWED THIS
Live stream is cool. Isn’t the internet wonderful. You can watch wars, protests from the comfort of your home.
Hats off to those not wearing masks. Not afraid to be seen there.
Hopefully the police will take into account that the prefrontal cortex doesn’t fully mature until age 25. Most if not all of the brains in Siemans Hall are not fully developed. They are kids. I wonder how many of the cops are too?
As I remember, impulse control is sparse among that age group. Joining a mob is one thing. Joining a mob and barricading oneself in a closed building with the mob is another. Ordinarily, once you realize you are about to pay a steep price for mob membership, you can just slink away. These poor youngsters can’t leave without all their fellow protesters knowing it. They would be considered rats for the rest of their lives. I do not envy any of these young idealists. Reality will bite them soon and often. I wish them luck and continued bravery in the face of the sanctions that are sure to come their way.
If you want to tell the Gazan’s of the world that you see them this is your moment. Said one in the group to the rest, at 37 minutes in, in the last video.
If you want to tell the Gazan’s of the world that you see them this is your moment, said one of the group to the others, at 37 minutes in, in the last video.
I chanted along with the protestors on live stream. Does that count as being there?
Israeli antisemitism…???
Israeli antiAmericanism…???
Or Jewish antisemitism…???
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-04-27/ty-article/.premium/israel-police-arrest-seven-including-five-u-s-jews-trying-to-bring-aid-into-gaza/0000018f-1e6d-dc45-a78f-1e6de0940000
Can anyone access a list of faculty supporting these idiots? This University is going to have to be cleansed if it has any hope of maintaining an academic reputation going forward.
Advocating the faculty be “cleansed”? Use of such a term is not advised, much less the idea of it.
With the HQ of the protest named “Intifada Hall” how could one expect not to be met with force?
It won’t be like April 22nd again when the occupiers/protestors faced a haphazard and ragtag response. CSU CRU is there. Leave or face the consequences.
They about to get an education money can’t buy.
Their real education will come when they try to enter the workforce without having completed their degree. Minimum wage, as they say, is a bitch.
Some kids in that protest gathering know how to create vocal harmony. A male falsetto would be awesome also.
To California Faculty Association Humboldt members: promoting thoughts and ideas is fine. Consider promoting constructive, non destructive protest that respects all students rights . Do not speak for all of the college community and students when many have been negatively impacted by your support of the actions that have interfered by the take over of facilities. CFAH show your commitment by providing meals and temporary housing for the protesters. CFAH dedicate your whole paycheck towards the repair and other costs associated with the protest takeover you support. Talk is cheap, put your money where your mouth is. I’m alumni and will no longer support you with donations. Best wishes to those people negatively by the actions of protesters and enabling staff.
The protesters have used antisemitic language throughout the protest which is hate speech. This goes beyond what should be acceptable let alone endorsed by faculty and staff. Unbelievable.
“antisemitism” sure has broadened it’s definition
Did you know the Palestinians are ‘semetic’ too? Talk about ‘antisemitism’ eh?
“The university issued a stern warning.” A pandering and feckless response. These Hamas supporting terrorists do not want a peaceful resolution to this occupation of destruction and should have been forcibly removed days ago.
Force = violence, so are you advocating violence against student protestors?
Are you advocating violence and harm?
I suggest that you look into the definition of “Intifada” which is what the little punks renamed Siemens Hall. The protesters have been using violent antisemitic rhetoric throughout the protest.
It means a civil uprising–a resistance.
“That means it’s impossible to say, definitively, if the word intifada is a call for violence or not — different people understand and use it differently, as is the case with so many words and symbols and, well, the entire narrative of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Israelis’ celebration of independence, Yom HaAtzmaut, is a day of national grief for Palestinians mourning the Nakba. ”
https://forward.com/culture/573654/intifada-arabic-israeli-hamas-war-meaning-linguistics/#dive-in
The term is used to describe periods of intense Palestinian protest against Israel, mainly in the form of violent terrorism: The First Intifada from 1987-1990 and the Second Intifada from 2000-05.
So it is used in the sense of violence and not the literal translation.
Were you the person that posted it?
I’m advocating for their removal. Any violence will result from the supports of Hamas terrorists that resist their lawful removal.
I have a statement from the leader:
Once there was a Reddit moderator named Jackie, who wielded the moderator’s wand with precision and finesse. In the vast expanse of the internet, Jackie was a guardian of order in their corner of cyberspace. With a keen eye for spam, trolls, and rule-breakers, they patrolled their subreddit tirelessly, ensuring that discussions remained civil and on-topic.
Jackie’s journey as a moderator wasn’t without challenges. They faced waves of dissent from users who felt their voices were being silenced unjustly. But Jackie remained steadfast in their commitment to upholding the subreddit’s rules, knowing that it was the only way to maintain a healthy community.
As time passed, Jackie became more than just a moderator; they became a symbol of justice and integrity on the platform. Users began to recognize their efforts in keeping their community safe and welcoming. Some even reached out to them personally, expressing gratitude for their work behind the scenes.
But Jackie’s victories weren’t just in enforcing rules; they were in the silenced voices they empowered. Through thoughtful moderation and open communication, they gave voice to those who had previously felt marginalized or unheard. They encouraged constructive dialogue and respectful debate, fostering a culture of inclusivity and empathy.
Despite the occasional backlash and burnout that came with their role, Jackie found solace in the positive impact they were making. Each removed spam, each silenced troll, was a victory for the community they served. And as their reputation grew, so too did the sense of pride and purpose that fueled their dedication.
In the end, Jackie wasn’t just a moderator; they were a champion of online civility and decency. Their victories were not measured in bans or removed comments but in the countless lives they touched and voices they amplified. And as long as there were subreddits in need of guardianship, Jackie would be there, ever vigilant, ensuring that the internet remained a place where everyone could be heard.
Pull out the guitar, “Ode to Jackie”
Pretty funny, well done.
Doesn’t anyone write anymore?