[UPDATE 5:32 p.m.: Firearms Located, Says HCSO] Search Warrant Executed at Lincoln Family Property as Dylan Moon Murder Investigation Continues
Line of law enforcement and unmarked vehicles in front of the Lincoln residence this morning. [Photo provided by a local resident slightly clarified with AI]
Dylan Moon died Friday evening after being shot on Little Moon Lane on Tuesday, March 10. His family announced his passing in a public message to the Hoopa community Friday night.
Three suspects have been arrested in connection with the case. William Randolph “Billy” Warren, 18, also known as “Bubbz” Lincoln, was taken into custody Wednesday after being located at a hotel in Eureka. Tse-Lin “Red Cloud” Lincoln, 19, surrendered to deputies late Thursday night. A third suspect, 15-year-old Preston Lee Ruiz II, was previously booked into Juvenile Hall. All three face murder charges following Moon’s death. The Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office Major Crimes Division is continuing to investigate.
The Search
The Marshall Lane property searched Saturday belongs to Deborah Marshall and Perry Lincoln, grandparents of Warren and Tse-Lin Lincoln. Neither was home at the time of the search. While in Eureka, Perry and Deborah learned of the search through family members and neighbors.
Family members on scene told the grandparents that deputies did not produce a warrant when asked multiple times. As of this publication, Deborah, the property owner, says no warrant has been presented, yet. Sheriff William Honsal addressed that claim directly in a written statement to Redheaded Blackbelt Saturday morning.
“Our major crime investigators have been working around the clock on this now homicide investigation,” Honsal wrote. “We are serving a search warrant at this location related to the Hoopa juvenile homicide. Per the law, we will leave a copy of the search warrant for the occupants to review.” Under the law, deputies are not required to show a search warrant to occupants at the time of the search, though they must announce their authority and purpose before entry and leave a receipt for any property seized.
According to the family, several adult males on the property were placed in patrol vehicles while children ranging in age from three to fifteen were left standing outside in the light rain. A neighbor confirmed that the children were eventually allowed to leave with a relative. One family member present is pregnant and has been diagnosed with preeclampsia, a high-risk condition. The family expressed concern about the stress of the situation on her health.
The Family’s Account
Perry Lincoln and Deborah Marshall spoke with Redheaded Blackbelt by phone Saturday morning. They said they had cooperated with law enforcement in connection with the case and described themselves as having encouraged the suspects to surrender.
Lincoln said the adult males detained on scene Saturday have no connection to the shooting. “The guys that they have in the cop cars and stuff have nothing to do with the incidents that’s been happening,” he said. “There’s no warrants for them, nothing like that. We just live on property.”
Placing the adult males in patrol vehicles during the search does not mean they were under arrest. It is standard practice, sanctioned by the U.S. Supreme Court in Michigan v. Summers (1981), which established that officers executing a search warrant may detain occupants for the duration of the search in order to maintain safety, prevent flight, and protect the integrity of the investigation.
The situation involving the children and the pregnant daughter with a high-risk medical condition may be viewed differently, however depending on if they were detained, and for how long. In Muehler v. Mena (2005), the Supreme Court indicated that the treatment of children and medically vulnerable individuals after a premises has been secured is subject to a higher standard of reasonableness.
When asked whether any firearms were at the property, Lincoln said no. “We don’t have guns,” he said. “I used to have a .22 to go deer hunting, but that broke like 10 years ago.”
A Family’s Grief, A Community Fractured
The shooting has shaken the Hoopa Valley to its core, and in its wake, the community has fractured. Social media has seen not only calls for the Lincoln family to be driven out of Hoopa, but Perry says death threats have been directed at family members with no alleged connection to the shooting, a level of communal rage that Perry Lincoln says misses the ongoing issue with the valley’s youth.
“There’s a number of kids that are just out there, groups of kids that are doing things, driving up in cars and shooting people in the back,” Lincoln said, pushing back on narratives that have cast his family as the sole source of the valley’s violence. “How can you say the Lincolns are the leaders of all this violence going on?”
Lincoln and Marshall also told Redheaded Blackbelt that Warren had himself been a shooting victim months earlier, and that when the incident was reported to tribal authorities, little came of it. “Tribal took the report, but they didn’t do anything about it,” Marshall said. “They didn’t post anything.” That account could not be independently confirmed, and Hoopa Valley Tribal Police had not responded to a request for comment as of publication.
“My wife and I are 68 years old,” Lincoln said. “She doesn’t have any kind of record of going to jail. I don’t have any kind of record of going to jail.” While Perry is an enrolled member of the Round Valley Indian Tribe, his wife Deborah is Hupa and lived in the valley her entire life, as have the vast majority of their family. He said the targeting of his entire family, including members with no alleged involvement, has compounded an already devastating situation.
The Lincoln family’s account is one perspective in a tragedy that has left a young man dead, at least three people facing murder charges, and an entire community in upheaval.
Ongoing Investigation
Honsal said the investigation is far from over. “There is still evidence outstanding related to this case,” he wrote. “Our investigators will not stop trying to uncover more evidence.” He renewed a call for public assistance, asking anyone with information to contact the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office at 707-445-7251.
The Hoopa Valley Tribal Police had not responded to a request for comment as of publication.
This is a developing story. Redheaded Blackbelt will update as more information becomes available. News tips can be submitted to [email protected].
Note: The title and article were updated from an earlier version of this article that used the common phrase of ‘served’ in relation to the warrant. We updated the piece to reflect that while the search warrant was executed, the physical copy of the warrant had not been presented to the occupants, according to the homeowners and those on scene.
UPDATE 5:32 p.m.: Sheriff Honsal updated us by email that “several guns were Discovered at the location That was searched in Hoopa.” He told us that more information will be released later.
Earlier:
- [Update 9:23 p.m.] Breaking News: Shooting Near Hoopa Leaves One Critically Injured Tuesday Evening
- Hoopa Shooting Victim Flown Out for Treatment as District Schools Close
- Shooting Suspects Remain at Large, Limited Details Released by HCSO
- Hoopa Tribe Offers $10,000 Reward as Community Mobilizes Support Following Shooting
- Hoopa Valley Police Believe Suspects No Longer in the Area
- Warrants Issued for Three Teenage Suspects in Hoopa Shooting, Victim Remains in Critical Condition
- Hoopa Shooting Suspects Identified and One Arrested
- Klamath-Trinity Joint Unified School District to Reopen Tomorrow
- Second Hoopa Shooting Suspect Arrested; Third Remains at Large
- Third Suspect in Hoopa Shooting Turns Himself in to Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office
- Death of Hoopa Shooting Victim Friday Night Leads Investigators to Seek Murder Charges Against Three Suspects
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Those poor families. Imagine what they must be going through.
The culprits are just children, but their lives are irrevocably ruined.
One night of anger and violence has left their futures tainted, forever.
They are probably already grieving and wondering what and why they did what they did.
Not to mention the family of the murdered boy.
Guns should only be owned by law enforcement and the military.
As long as guns are readily accessible and worshipped in this country, this senseless violence will continue.
If guns were not available to those “angry youth”, they would use their cars, their fists, rocks, knives, anything at all to ruin their own lives and those of their victims. Blaming the inanimate object just diverts attention from the human pulling the trigger.
I don’t think our government can handle the guns they have either. 😭
Yes. The root causes driving folks into those behaviors must be identified and modified. Societal pressures from many sources.
Answer the question “What’s bothering you?”
Identify and address the sources of anger and frustration.
Utilize and spread the teachings of Two Feathers.
Listen to the Song Of The Deer.
The real issue stems from over a century ago…you know when the white man came, stole their lives/land – generously (joke) “gave” them a small square of THEIR land back to “exist” and suppressed their ways; mentally, physically, emotionally & spiritually!
And then we wonder why it’s so chaotic there…sad indeed!
Their fists etc would not been as lethal. That’s the problem with such a supercilious argument. Guns are lethal.
Supercilious? Guns aren’t always lethal, nor are “cars, their fists, rocks, knives, anything at all” always less lethal, eh? 🙂
The point being, there are many ways to kill; the driving force to kill is the problem, not the choice or availability of weapon.
Thats a uninformed comment , look at the EU where guns are generally banned you have mass stabbing events public beheadings and the like in the usa there are more stabbings per year then fun fights many of those end in death please inform yourself before making comments that call for removing peoples rights. Imagine if rumors where deemed a crime as they cause a lot of damage and harm and a group of people decided that only members of the press should be allowed to post anything on line . Sign up get your government permit to comment on internet blogs , but only after you take a class and have your background checkout oh yeah pay fees and taxes for your right to express your thoughts as well .
Guns aren’t the cause but they do make it easy and irrevocable. You could have a knife and cut someone then realize “oh s***!” But you probably haven’t killed them. One bullet can easily kill someone without much effort or thought.
Guns are not the problem, people are the problem. When bad people exhibit bad behavior, bad stuff happens. Don’t blame the tool.
When you blame social woes on inanimate objects you are doomed to fail. You need to address the root causes. Among them being unaddressed mental illness, abuse, neglect, the lack of respect for others, cheapness of life, and a low self esteem. Many of these faults are induced by the system and the media at an early age. Do you think people are going to hand over firearms to a system that is already corrupt and abusive? Keep dreaming. You are not taking the firearms.
I disagree, guns have always been in homes. This violence is only a relatively recent phenomenon. When we were kids we fought. Sure, all kids do. But we never thought about shooting one another.
Bohns brownshirts.
It is unfortunate that this stress and hardship has been suffered by these family members.
Maybe the kids who were arrested should have thought about this before doing what they (allegedly) did.
Hopefully this will serve to remind other people people who may be considering acts of violence that the consequences of such actions are nor borne solely by the victim and the perpetrator.
The only people I know that use a .22 to shoot deer are poachers.
You must be mistaken. No poachers in that region.
CA F&G code § 353 .. a 22LR is not legal method of take. Rifle has to be a center-fire. Some states go further to say 30 cal minimum, but not CA.
Besides, shooting any large game with a 22LR is unethical douchebag behavior. Even a .223/5.56 is dubious, hunt with that an you are probably also an unethical douchebag. Treat game animals with respect, clean kills are your obligation. Only take good shots with the right weapon. Hold your fire if you aren’t positive you can make it happen.
.223 is a crap gun to use for deer to begin with, but the same caliber that everyone that doesn’t hunt or whatever wants to get banned. But even as a kid when I used to hunt with relatives, I had a .243, or better yet a 20ga. as we were usually bird hunting. If you’re going after rabbit or fox or a coyote it’d be OK, but unless you have expanding bullets and 100′ away a .223 is junk and unethical as you say. And absolutely worthless against something larger like moose or bear. Not unless you’re name is Deadpool or something.
A .223/5.56mm centerfire is a heck of a lot different than a .22 rimfire.
Indeed, but still not ethical for any big game hunting. Using a .22 rimfire is just retarded and cruel. I suppose some folks like the idea of using an AR but you really owe it to the animals to use a 308 at a minimum. There are .22 – .30 cal variants out there with similar energy, and ballistic performance matters too.
Really it’s all about the terminal energy.
How big is the exit wound from an AR-15? https://thegunzone.com/how-big-is-the-exit-wound-from-an-ar-15/
The details you cite are a function of the tumbling action that is normal for most rifle bullets. There’s a lot of physics involved, but the one thing you need to know is that the kinetic energy in a bullet from an AR15 is WAAAAY less than any hunting rifle. LOTS less.
Wars involve shooting people not game, you don’t need big guns for skinny-ass humans. The AR15 is a wimpy gun because hauling around more hardware and ammo is a waste of energy. Effective for military purposes, but unethically puny for hunting big game (deer, bears, pigs, elk, etc.)
from the same article:
Actually I do understand the Physics involved. While tumbling is a factor sometimes, kinetic energy increases as the square of the speed. KE = 1/2 * mv^2 Thus a bullet traveling three times the velocity has nine times as much kinetic energy. The difference is felt in recoil.
22 LR vs 223: Rimfire vs Centerfire Compared https://gunsammoandgear.com/22-lr-vs-223/
Unless the target is thin and the bullet is just passing through, then tumbling is always a factor. When the spin is lost it becomes unstable because the center of drag is ahead of the center of gravity and they want to swap. Once turned sideways that’s where the energy transfer really happens, hence the cavitation you mention.
If you google ‘how much bullet energy to a deer’ you’ll get a lot of hits saying the minimum rule thumb is 1000 ft lbs. You noted above that a .223 is only marginally above that, and that’s really the point of this comment thread — 22LR is massively inadequate and a .223, albeit an order of magnitude more powerful, still isn’t a responsible choice either.
I’m pretty sure the cavitation begins on impact.
I also wholeheartedly agree and reiterate an AR15 is definitely NOT an ethical 4-legged Hunting weapon. For varmints, perhaps. But NOT when Hunting for food. Cavitation wastes a huge portion of the meat.
The ATF has the .223 as a pistol round last time i checked .
what I know of this family is the irrevocable good that they have done for the Native peoples in between our now rural communities spreading good medicine
the way the HCSO sounds to have treated the children and pregnant members of this family does not seem ethical.
remember that there is always more to life than what you read on the news
I am so sorry to all of you and send many blessings as he walks the red road. Corrupt Humboldt trys to harm us all. I am so very sorry. He was always kind to me. The moon family is always ❤️
Holding the Hoopa community in my heart after this terrible loss of a young life, and the arrest of other youth whose lives are now also broken. On this land, Native families have carried generations of violence, dispossession and silence that did not begin with them, yet still falls hardest on their children. As Lucy Thompson reminded non‑Native neighbors more than a century ago, Native peoples’ ways and stories deserve respect and protection; they are not the cause of this pain but the source of strength to heal it. May the families, the Tribe and all the young people of Hoopa find support, justice and a path toward healing, and may those of us who are guests on this land listen more, speak carefully and stand beside them in their grief.
Thank you for your insightful comment. It goes to the heart of this multigenerational tragedy. Genocide, casual and intentional racism, poverty and oppression.
Leave it to the Antifa “journalist” to question everything the police does instead of focusing on the murder. Hoopa is so out of control. Left-wing activist scribbling will not change that. Sheesh
Troy, the article you’re commenting on was about a search warrant executed at a Hoopa property in connection with a murder investigation — something that was clearly stated in the piece, along with the fact that the warrant was directly related to the murder charges filed against the property owners’ grandsons. It reported the facts: property owners said they hadn’t been shown a warrant, Sheriff Honsal responded with a statement, and we provided relevant case law for context. Reporting multiple perspectives and providing context isn’t bias — it’s journalism. At no point did this publication question law enforcement’s right to execute that warrant.
As for the “Antifa journalist” label — I want to make sure I’m following your logic. You believe I’m questioning law enforcement, and that makes me anti-fascist, which makes me Antifa. Troy, are you suggesting that law enforcement is fascist? That’s quite a thing to put out there. I’d also note that opposing fascism puts me in fairly good company — our founding fathers and most freedom-loving Americans would likely agree it’s not a radical position.
For what it’s worth, I have tremendous respect for law enforcement and the work they do — though my personal views have no bearing on the facts I report either way.
It’s generally a good idea to read an article before commenting on it. If the meaning isn’t clear the first time, it’s worth reading it again.
lol Lisa good luck using logic on that crowd. They are just parroting the satisfyingly angry rhetoric they heard, even if it doesn’t all add up in their heads.
Pitchforks and torches, mouths agape.
If they weren’t home at the time of the search, of course they would not have seen it. the article implied some kind of LEO misdeed. That’s why they leave a copy at the scene.
Old guy, I think you may have misunderstood what the article said.
Although the property owners themselves weren’t home, there were people present at the residence during the search, and those individuals told family members they did not see a warrant when they asked about it. That’s the claim the article reported.
But the piece also included Sheriff Honsal’s explanation and the legal context. As he noted — and as Lisa explained — law enforcement is not required to physically present the warrant during the search. The law requires officers to announce their authority and purpose and to leave a copy of the warrant and a receipt for any seized property afterward.
So the article wasn’t suggesting misconduct; it was simply reporting what people on scene said and then providing the sheriff’s response and the legal standard so readers could understand how the process works.
I respect your view, the statement that leo did not produce a warrant after ‘multiple requests’ kind of infers it. Non owners wouldn’t get the warrant, and that could have been stated. The non owner’s statements are ‘hearsay’ regardless and offer no validation to the tragedy’s investigation. Thanks for the Forum, it’s appreciated, despite my bad humor and crankiness sometimes.
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Old guy, I appreciate you saying that — and crankiness is allowed here from time to time. 🙂
Just to clarify one point: people who are present during the execution of a search warrant can ask whether officers have a warrant, and officers will often acknowledge that they do. What they’re not required to do is physically hand it over or display it during the search, especially to someone who isn’t the property owner. As the sheriff explained, the copy is typically left at the location once the search is complete.
The reason we included the family’s statement is because it was part of what people on scene were saying as the search unfolded. We paired that with the sheriff’s explanation and the relevant case law specifically so readers could see both the claim and the legal context.
The goal isn’t to validate or undermine anyone’s position — it’s to show what people are saying and what the law actually requires while investigators continue working on a very serious case.
general question: what is the purpose of “clarifying” with AI? having not seen the original, i’m curious what exactly was clarified.
Here’s the cropped version which is pixelated. The image above has been made a little more clear.
Interesting the AI agent used commonly available imaging algorithms to fill in missing pixels and sharpen the original…algorithms available long before “AI”.
I don’t claim to know the process. I just know that Pixlr offers the option of “resizing” with AI an image that is too small for what you want to do with it, and I used it. I wanted to be transparent about the use so I described it the way Pixlr does.
Well written article. I know there was some discussion about biased journalism, but all in all good reporting.
i do believe it would have been sport to point out even though the grandparent stated he had no guns other than a .22…..there were other guns found in the search.
However guns can’t kill someone on their own, they need to be fired by a human.
We did state that when we got the update from Sheriff Honsal.