At the Courthouse Friday, a Group Protested Against Stay-at-Home Orders
All video and photo by Mark McKenna.
Concerns about government overreach led protesters to gather at the Courthouse Friday at noon. Signs reflected a variety of issues.
Protesters have been at the same location at the same time for three weeks in a row.
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What do we want? Open the economy! What do we want? Open the economy! What do we want? Justice for Lawson! Shut up Carl!!!
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The justice for Lawson person on the steps was in agreement with this whole virus panic is nothing but a big act. I was there the whole time and everyone was peaceful. Never once did anyone there tell them to shut up. They had the right to be there just like everyone. It’s called freedom of speech. Look it up under the Bill of Rights in the 1st amendment sometime. We know who killed that kid. Do you? The FBI and APD who investigated the case are bumbling fools, like yourself.
“We know who killed that kid.” Please…. do tell more. This will make my morning coffee so much better
Evidently since you are an expert on your Constitutional rights you must be aware that the right for the government/CDC to implement isolation and quarantine protocols is also in the constitution. Oops I guess not.
Um, that’s not the US Constitution, that’s statute law which does not carry the same power as the Constitution. Statutes can and are changed all the time. The Constitution is a permanent document that can only be changed through a lengthy amendment process that must be ratified by 2/3 of the states.
What is known as the “Commerce Clause” of the US Constitution is in Article1,
Section 8.
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;
That is literally all it says. Nothing about the CDC, pandemics, public health, nothing even remotely close.
The people with the “Our bodies, our choices” signs had better shut up about being pro-life then, huh…?
Yes, because asking someone to stay indoors and NOT get a disease is the same as forcing a woman to carry a baby for nine months and then push it out of her body and then raise it. Really stellar logic, I bet you felt very clever writing this comment.
I think you may have misinterpreted that person’s comment. Y’all are on the same side here
Uhmmm ..no..guess I should explain it huh. When its just YOUR body then it is just YOUR choice. When an unborn child’s life is in the mix, then its not…..wait for it….YOUR choice..
Is it the choice of the FETUS or the GOVERNMENT? You sound RIDICULOUS! 🙄
I’m pro-life but I do agree it’s MY BODY, MY CHOICE! If that gives people tbe right to take an unborn life, then for us who don’t feel we need vaccinated shouldn’t be forced on us. No other vaccine is forced on us, not even the flu. Look at how many die from the flu in the (Un) United States every year.
Good for these protesters! Instead of protesting, just go open up. If someone tries to stop you, or arrest you, have your support network ready, and if they come, get the word out, and have people surround your business to stop them. We are the govt., not the freaks like John Ford, who hurts people everyday. I think your sheriff has done a good job, but now we need to treat the business openings like a heroin arrest, and just let them go. The Chinese spread this virus to cripple the US economy, so we would have to rely on them and submit to their authority. Fuck China, they have hurt the world, they must be punished. The best way to punish them is to have the young people of our area to start making stuff here. Clothing, appliances, electronics, furniture, and so much more. The less we buy from China, the less power they have. They have threatened college administrators who allow the students to question China’s motives here. Fuck them, they have no say here. Made in the USA is the only way.
why are the anarchists waving American flags?
Anarchists? The anarchists protest from our cars, when windows are down we wear masks. These people are the “patriots” not anarchists.
“Muzzle” ladies seem like a real delight. Holy cats they are racists.
How dare those soulless girls stand there smirking holding such a deeply racist, degrading sign depicting a “muzzled “ victim of white oppression and inhumane societal mistreatment! They have no shame nor intelligence. They need to research the atrocities committed against slaves before they have the audacity to compare a PPE to a tool of torture and degradation (muzzle)! Disgusting and disrespectful to an entire race of African American descendants!!!
I would like to know who employs the woman with the racist sign about slaves. Does her employer know she shares this?
They posted her name. I wouldn’t worry too much about her attitude. She’s going to learn to keep it to herself. Probably by tomorrow night.
Does “I’m free” mean they’re not selling themselves now? I’m certain they accepted confederate coins.
Yes, disgusting and soulless women! They should be made famous.
And to this newspaper…….if you are going to post such hateful photos, at least comment how awful it is!! If you aren’t against it…..You are for it!! 🤦🏻♀️
I know this is a forgotten concept but the news presents the facts and people interpret that information for themselves. Anything else is propaganda whether for good or evil.
And its a FACT that these were racist evil people.
Since your knowledge of them is limited to a photo or two on one afternoon of their life…you might want to consider that you don’t have a whole picture.
Oh for crying out loud, one white woman has to rush in to the defense of another. You failing to see how racist her sign is says A LOT about you. No one needs further whitesplaining as to how this is possibly okay.
Who says I failed to see that it was racist? Or at least that likely, being wrapped in layers of privilege, insulated the holders from understanding that they were blundering about blindly, stomping on historical pain without comprehending how the image would be perceived by those who’ve been hurt.
We need to address white privilege when images like this are used for any purpose. It was a poor analogy: cloth or paper masks ARE NOT like the metal punishment used on a slave who had no control over her life or the wearing of the contraption. Please protest if you like, but be aware of how offensive you images are.
“The message of the sign without its racial undertone is despicable, i.e. that the slight inconvenience of wearing a mask in the interest of community safety is an unacceptable infringement upon freedom. That’s what we need to focus on.“
Define “we” Thirdeye BLIND. You cannot control the free speech narrative. The WE you are opposed to are offended by the racist undertone that you so ineptly are trying to dispel. Wow…whitesplainig struck a nerve..lol! I bet You are red faced while deflecting with your pedestrian insults —typical! Lmao!!!
No, it’s not a fact that the people holding that sign were racist. Taken at a most literal level the sign does not convey racist intent, although in the context of being held by white women it is definitely tacky and insensitive. If it were held by a black person it could be seen as playing the race card, the exact opposite of what these women are accused of. So the sign is kind of like a Rorschach ink blot test with the meaning provided by whoever is viewing it, with context being key.
“Taken at a most literal level the sign does not convey racist intent, “ Thirdeye…BLIND! [edit] Inkblot tests serve to diagnose psychotic from non-psychotic thinking. “Muzzles are for slaves” is a clear “loss of touch with reality” when using this torture device as an analogy to a “protective mask!” This protest took place In a modern society where the intent is personal protection for the citizens of the county from a deadly virus! Sadly, Thirdeye BLIND your [edit] “whitesplaining” and attempt at diminishing the real depravity of the message and image proudly displayed by those racist women declares your membership in the ilk of the “they didn’t murder someone” [edit] ! Clearly, “inbred” was a hair trigger for your ranting and placating of this despicable behavior/signage. Too close to your true self? Use your real name “protestor”…Kym prefers that.
RJ: You of all people are in no position to admonish someone to use their own name.
The message of the sign without its racial undertone is despicable, i.e. that the slight inconvenience of wearing a mask in the interest of community safety is an unacceptable infringement upon freedom. That’s what we need to focus on.
That you would use a stupid term like “whitesplaining” to dismiss an argument says all we need to know about you. You are incapable of making an argument based on merit, so you resort to slurs and innuendo. Same with your reference to those who disagree with you as “racist inbreds.” Again, you show signs of being someone mainly concerned with masturbating their ego with a sense of moral superiority and thus has nothing worthwhile to contribute to the discussion.
“If it were held by a black person it could be seen as playing the race card, the exact opposite of what these women are accused of.”
Hmmm…George Dei, et al., in the book “Playing the Race Card” argue that the term itself is a rhetorical device used in an effort to devalue and minimize claims of racism.
Telling choice of words Thirdeye.
What sane African American would hold that sign?! You are absurd and clearly ignorant of the African American psyche.
Says a good ole racist…
I suspect like most people I’ve got my prejudices.
I “confirm your prejudices” based on your glib remarks, and your insensitive, ludicrous defense of these racist inbreds! Likes attract.— Further, you published your “facts” with their photos affirming your support of their indecency! The close up for emphasis! Shame on you! Your aspiration I’m sure is to work for the ministry of disinformation-FOX news. You’ll fit right in!
“Real Journalist,” your blithering makes a mockery of your handle. Your use of the term “racist inbreds” referring to people you know nothing about only shows your own prejudices and propensity for stereotyping. What makes you think they’re inbred other than your disapproval of their hypothetical racial beliefs? I suspect that your hair-trigger outrage and propensity for sweeping moral judgements is based more on a need to feel morally superior to others than on a real desire for positive change.
Well said Kym Kemp!
According to reviews on your Facebook page, this is not the first time you took this stance that sides with racist mindsets. There are literally other news sources that are speaking out against these women. They are real journalists who take the time to speak out against hate. I wonder if your advertisers are aware of these views you share. Do the right thing and write an article about how disgusting those two women were for displaying such hate in your county!
Posting photos of an event is not evidence that I approve of it. I post photos of drunk drivers, murderers and rapists, too.
And before the other end of the spectrum loses their collective minds, I believe the women made a choice that was jawdroppingly lacking in empathy and an understanding of the difference between being held captive and cruelly bound to enrich another and having orders given to wear a mask and shelter in your comfortable home in order to protect the vulnerable among us–orders so gently enforced that you can stand on the lawn of the County Courthouse flouting them. BUT the fact they exhibited an insensitivity to the past and to the pain of others is not on the same level as murdering someone.
Deny, deny, deny…at least live in your truth Kym. Nothing is more pathetic than a closet racist/ propaganda disseminator.
Why not post a close up of the Justice for Lawson protestor/sign as well?! Didn’t appeal to you like the confederate girls’ indecency?! Facebook facts have been found. Smh…
Ah, Real Journalist, who lives your values so strongly that you don’t need to stand behind them with your real name, your courage in naming the perceived shortcomings of others while shielding yourself behind anonymity from any examination of your life is duly noted.
Why can’t you just say that the sign is blatently racist? Do you realize how hurtful this image was for many? Imagine being a black child and seeing that image with no context. Imagine tourists seeing those images and feeling like Humboldt County is unsafe. Not only because of the sign but also because of the news source not calling out the racism.
As far as I know there aren’t groups of people who support murderers and rapists like there is for racist groups. Plus, posting those photos exposes these criminals which everyone would support since they committed a crime. Was your purpose to expose these women holding the racist signs?
I do understand that journalists would like to be able to report on stories in a neutral way, however, I feel that they have a responsibility to call out hateful images that could be hurtful to their community. There is tons of press about this story now, why not write an article about it showing that racist language like that will not be tolerated.
I won’t write that the sign won’t be tolerated because what I see happening is roughly what should happen. A journalist shows the facts. People make their judgement about the facts and hopefully the the original people realize that they blundered badly. In addition, the community (in this case a much wider community than I envisioned) makes their feelings known.
But, I don’t think that the women shouldn’t be allowed to post the sign. I think they should be allowed free speech and the consequences of the marketplace of free ideas will mostly shine a bright light on bad ideas and cause the bad ideas to die and simultaneously illuminate good ideas.
Nice to hear the sentiments of a classical liberal.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
RJ, the Justice for Josiah protester was a supporter of the demonstration. Would the sign have met with your approval in their hands?
“Ullr, it’s an opportunity to gives those twerps a lesson that it doesn’t work here.”
There’s the rebel yell I’ve been waiting for. i.e, Grab your shotgun and jump in the truck…let’s go git ‘em …!” Drop that facade and show your true colors Thirdeye (Kym)
Upon deletion of this post also, (which you will) it will confirm for us that you are Thirdeye…such hypocrisy..lol
Catz, you and Real Journalist and the others have tried your best…Mark 4:9 Then Jesus said, “he who has ears to hear let him hear.” These hate mongers and sympathizers are incapable of what you are asking.
On this website, pretending to be multiple people to back up your claims is frowned on. Please don’t do it again.
“I wonder if your advertisers are aware of these views you share.”
Way to go, Catz, if you can’t come up with a convincing argument try for intimidation. Never mind that your threat is to falsely claim that Kym “shares” beliefs with those she is reporting on. Threatening to harm someone’s business with false claims is slimy.
“Thirdeye”just admit you’re one of the sign holders, use your name! You showed your hateful racist mentality and got called out on it by a larger audience! Your thinly veiled, ridiculous justification of the ignorant content on the sign demonstrates your collusion. Inkblot, lol! You insulted and callously offended an entire race! We see you. At least Kym talked it out,[edit]
Welcome to “cancel culture”.
Right on cue, another poster falsely claims that someone who disagrees with them agrees with the sentiments of the protesters and the signs they hold.
Ullr, it’s an opportunity to gives those [edit] a lesson that it doesn’t work here.
I made an effort but Kym deleted my post. I give her credit for standing for her principles even when my attacking comment was in her defense.
“It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt”
This is directed at any of you folks making off base comments about Kym and her integrity. You need to crawl back under your keyboard and go away. Journalistic integrity is covering stories that may make people feel uncomfortable. If you don’t like it then don’t read it. Spamming her site with your virtue signaling nonsense demonstrates such a low level of intelligence it’s hard to take any of it seriously.
You are correct! Good for you for sticking up for journalism. The two ladies holding the Muzzle signs are either racists or idiots, Useful Idiots, perhaps.
“If you aren’t against it…..You are for it!!”
Gee, that kind of reminds me of when George W. Bush said “you are either with us or against us” before invading Afghanistan and Iraq. Same kind of slimy manipulation.
That photo of the slave is disgusting. [edit]
It is actually disgusting! I am shocked that in this day and age this is what these ignorant women bring to a protest. They should be shamed!
Definitely ignorant, but not warranting some of the wild accusations seen in this thread.
Just to be clear, there are no laws afoot that I’m aware of in the US that would require someone to have a vaccine.
Patriasses is more like it. Their ignorance of the constitution and science is truly amazing.
Patriots? Hahahaha more like COVIDIOTS!!!!
Why are fools who simply don’t care if they kill themselves and their children carrying American Flags?
Not a patriot amongst them. Plenty of aspirng murderers, They should be refused medical care when they come down with Covid-19. It’s what they deserve. And if they survive, they should all be charged with attempted murder.
Agreed!!!
The work of Stanley Milgram shouldn’t be lost on this pandemic.
https://youtu.be/fCVlI-_4GZQ
The Milgram experiments were riddled with issues… for instance only males were used. That’s just the beginning of the problems there.
Check that MAGA hat bro, I think you might be in for a shock once you see where it was made…..
Oh my good god 😱 Do you also wear a tinfoil hat so Aliens can’t read your mind?!
Ah, a proponent of child labor. Kay off the kool-aid.
It was our corporations that moved our manufacturing jobs to China. Why are you blaming China? Blame the corporations who didn’t care about American jobs and exploited Chinese sweat shop labor.
Are you willing to pay 5 times more for products that are made in China right now? Because even the pitiful wages young people are paid these days it’s still a hell of a lot more than Chinese laborers are paid. That’s why so much manufacturing was moved there
Tell the Trump family about made in the USA all of the shit they sell is made overseas most in China!! Queen Ivanka has all the crap she sells is made in China and during a dinner with the president of China she convinced him to give her more patents for more over priced crap. Nothing but corruption in the trump family!
Y’all need to smoke some of that sweet sweet Hombolt weed. JFC!
Don’t worry folks! Ms Pelosi will save us! Free money to “undocumented immigrants!”
I guess that’s the polite word for illegal aleains. 10 trillion into a doomed economy means only one thing…..inflation. Enjoy your 30 dollar burger this time next year.
Rather than worrying about the “free money” for undocumented immigrants (peanuts) how about wondering why millionaires/billionaires with Trump ties were given millions in bailouts.
You worried about bailouts when your freedom has been removed!
Umm, yaaa-aaaa.
Corruption is par for the course under this administration.
Damn crooks.
junk rated over leveraged fracking gamblers got relief money. no covid related issues, just risky debt on over production.
Lack of economic regulation is the #1 enemy of our freedoms and rights.
They are both a problem. Two bad ideas
No one should be bailed out! Not airlines. Not oil. Not illegals. Open this country and get the fuk back to work! Ms Pelosi is trying to buy the election. Literally! I see it, this is not “compassion”money as she says….. it’s for political gain.
Yep, Pelosi is why all the checks have Trump’s name printed on them… it’s all part of her secret effort to buy the election… Oh, wait, maybe someone else is trying to buy the election…
Is he ORANGE with Reverse Raccoon Eyes???
Trump supported the stimulus bill and had his name (for some reason) put on the checks.
the first stimulus bill, yes. Not the second and soon to be third. That was all on the house, led by Pelosi with out the approval of the senate or the republicans. 3. 6. 9 trillion. There’s a danger to that much unaccounted for cash entering the economy. It’s called inflation. Simple economics.
If the Senate didn’t pass it and Trump didn’t sign it then it didn’t happen.
I heard he signed each one of them himself with his Nancy Pelosi commemorative Impeachment pen.
Trump owns the depression. Buy some potatoes. That check might be the last you see for a while.
Give it a shot, but the Economy never shut down. An Economy reacts to reality. Open Businesses with no customers, no recovery. Get a big surge in cases, shit goes south big time. Staying home sucks, but dying really costs. When do we find out who pays for a family member who gets on a ventilator for three weeks before dying? How much does Alder Bay remove from one of their guests savings before they die? That’s a death tax on their guests families, it just goes to private investors. The last Great Depression didn’t start with an epidemic, this one was just waiting; a hair trigger away.
Kinda like Obama’s shovel ready stimulus when he spent a whopping 6% on the infrastructure and gave the rest to the likes of Goldman Sachs. I’ll bet you were screaming from the bleachers then.
what nonsense is this ? you watch too much fox or other crap, all lies . trump literally took an economy with 75 straight months of growth under Obama and destroyed it to the worst levels since the Great Depression.
Bush drove the economy into recession, Obama lifted it out and set it on the part of growth. Trump ungratefully inherited a fast growing economy. Covid-19 has wiped it out.
GOP, under the leadership of McConnell, refused to fund Obama’s Infrastructure Proposal.
The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, often called the “bank bailout of 2008” was signed into law by Pres. G.W. Bush.
Excellent point.
In the summer and fall of 2008, it was George W. Bush and his administration that decided to bail out Goldman Sachs, Bear Stearns by lending $29 billion to JPMorgan Chase to buy the financially troubled firm, Fannie Mae, Freddi Mac, don’t forget the “too large to fail,” AIG.
You can find a bail out list, and what these companies still owe to the Feds at https://projects.propublica.org/bailout/list.
Excellent point. BUT here’s the problem….you’d have to have 1/2 a brain to realize that Corporate Welfare is much more dangerous and costly to the American people than low income welfare. Yes the system needs fixing but let’s fix it from both ends. It is time for term limits. Neither side can get anything done until then.
Exactly.
Spot on! It may take more than a year for the $30 hamburger but rest assured, prices are going up. And rest assured, dipshit liberals will find a way to blame it on capitalism.
Which one are you the racist or the millionaire?
Racist? Yeah, its too bad what those democrats did (jim crow laws, kkk, fought against arming freed slaves, LBJ put blacks on welfare for votes). You know what is just as bad as greed? Envy. The envy of other people’s money.
Yet the kkk currently supports trump. Also who waves the confederate flags now? Oh that’s right republicans.
what does that mean the price of weed will be?
Price? You can’t grow it yourself for free?
Fan of Guest- Are you aware that the legal immigration process doesnt actually exist in the states? Let me educate you seeing as you clearly havnt a clue and I have gone through it.
My husband migrated here lawfully, we fell in love (sorry???) and he has been married to me, a citizen for years. He has a child who is also a citizen. Not only did we spend thousands on the “legal ” immigration process with expert legal teams doing everything we were supposed to do and years of effort (frankly for the purpose of leaving this awful county). We still have no green card to show for it. Today, even though we did everything but our interview with immigration for the green card, he can he get deported anytime. Again the immigration dept is not doing appointments for folks to get legal /green cards but they are deporting people and torturing families and children under the guise that they have done something wrong. How do you explain that?
Also explain to me-if you were in the same situation would you move to another county away from your baby and wife for years just to wait for the system to catch up? NO, no one would ever do that. The system itself creates “illegal immigration.” Some people actually care about their families (and others), try to sympathize with them.
Also ironic- my husbands brother is a dentist, my entire family wants to see him because there are no dentists here especially that are affordable. Instead we are stuck in merica’ with cavities, just waiting on immigration to let us finally leave. You complain about migrants having healthcare right? But we just want to leave to receive healthcare and we are stuck here-its a human right. Go to Europe , get in an accident and tell me otherwise. If you want migrants and their families to leave, take it up with your impossible immigration system!
Also my entire family of 3 got $0 for a stimulus, 2 citizens. I am constantly penalized for falling in love with someone from another county. Meanwhile my husband risks his life, mine and our child’s to serve on the front lines during the pandemic for your benefit. More irony-my husband is a highly educated teacher who knows several languages and has immense education experience, while the school in my neighborhood needs teachers. Your shooting yourself in your own foot, how do you not see this?
Its people like you who have opinions based on no facts whatsoever, fear and xenophobia that enable the perpetuation of this impossible inhumane “legal immigration system,” and all the trauma it inflicts on everyone, just so you can criminalize people who are born somewhere else and those who love them. Prove that you are human, go ahead. Im not convinced.
Very well said. I am so sorry you are going through the red tape of immigration. Unfortunately most americans don’t want to know the truth….that their own government is the problem
Amen,Sister!
And what was the extent of this country’s debt when our present POTUS took office, as compared to the monstrous debt we have today? Go ahead and complain about Democratic Party spending, at least they are spending money to help PEOPLE, not billionaire corporations!~
“Church is essential”… Just in case you needed more proof that these people are incapable of thought.
Church is essential. Its important to people of faith and spirituality. I believe my soul and spirit is much more important than this hunk of meat I walk around this earth in.
I was taught at an early age that you can pray anywhere. You don’t need to go and congregate with a large group of people and breathe on each other to pray. Think of someone besides yourself.
But isn’t the church where I go to donate money to my God? I agree LB. religion should be self spirituality…. once you find that, which I still haven’t, you are truly free.
“The mind is our greatest enemy and our only true savior.”
If you haven’t found it then how do you know it makes you free?
Everybody can pray wherever they want. Think of others besides yourself.
Well said . . . I am a soul, in a body, with a spirit . . .the body I am in is my earthsuit.
No one is the history of the Earth has ever provided even the tiniest shred of evidence for that claim. That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
We are not humans having a spiritual moment. We are spirits having a human moment.
Church is essential??? I guess so especially if you’re SHEEPLE who believes that RUBBISH foisted on us thousands of years ago by those in charge at the time & then revised by every King & Religious King (The “POOP”) who came along after!!!!
So much for diversity, tolerance, etc. All those liberal words that apparently only the speaker gets to define. It’s a wonder you don’t spontaneously combust from the friction of vigorously applying opposing values based on the hate. Well rejoice in your alignment with the KKK on anticatholism.
Guest: excellent comment.
What, you’ve never heard of talking snakes?!
YES actually, there is a BIG FAT ONE living at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in Washington DC!!! Spewing NONSENSE every waking hour of the day!!! The latest one being “Obamagate”!!!
Jim: What do you believe in?
I wonder, What’s wrong with outside social distanced church? And i do mean this as a brood question. Why isnt that an option?
Its possible that if people
Would outside social distance it would be an option.
Might be cold, may not feel like the house of god. Crises is never easy and without sacrifices.
And i understand that there is a danger in being forced to do anything. And its easier to force the willing.
There is a lot to wade through there.
But if one rallies for the right to hold services, why not just demonstrate how to be compassionate for the community and have a safe church service? NOT a disease vector, but a conscious safe service. Thats shows the compassion of christ and demonstrates the human power of mitigating damages by not breathing on people.
Devastating disease is only likely to become more frequent, and actually protecting ourselves by instilling good habits is the only way to take the weight of anyones claim
To do it for us.
Decrease the emergency, decrease the emergency response.
As someone who doesn’t care for church and knows that Man made God, not vice versa, I think your comment is well worth the text.
I agree with you, things can be improvised to safe measures.
I especially liked these words from you:
why not just demonstrate how to be compassionate for the community and have a safe church service? NOT a disease vector, but a conscious safe service.
Thanks for good thoughts.
you’ know’ is a pretty interesting assertion considering nobody knows
Belief is a lack of knowledge.
I don’t believe there isn’t a God.
I know all evidence of a God is man made.
Hence, I know Man made God.
I also know there is no evidence of a God.
That is my perspective.
You also know the Nazis weren’t socialist in any way. So you stating what you know doesn’t pack as much weight as you think.
Oh Mike, you skipped out on losing that debate with Ullr and Rollin the last 3 times.
So…you live with your belief.
I’ve been busy, that being said I’ve read your arguments and I I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt you’ve never won an arguement . You just keep on talking louder and louder til everyone else gives up. And you know what they say about the loudest person in the room? To state unequivocally that you know there is no god, and it doesn’t matter if you are correct or not, is sheer arrogance. And any adult in any adult conversation would or should know better. All it proves is that you don’t carry these conversations in real life and if you do it’s with a incredibly narrow nondiverse group of people. That being said I don’t care to carry on a conversation with someone who is incapable of seeing any side but his own. I literally have a thousand things better to do, and I’m going to go do one of them now.
Mike. What is the significance of Stanley Milgram , and his ground breaking work that showed people will listen to authority even at the level in which pain and suffering is inflicted into peaceful people.
This is an eye opening reality of what we are experiencing today.
A group of people following orders that have very little to do with a remedy that will not cause more pain and suffering.
If you look at any of these comments, could you ascertain which ones would follow orders to the detriment of their fellow humans?
The ones who ridicule the independent minded people, and all the snitches, those who have an over developed sense of command and control.
This is our world now, and we must understand the importance of the Milgram experiments, to know why we are dealing with those who
https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/it-wasnt-the-virus-that-crashed-the-economy-it-was-the-people-who-obeyed_05132020
There is no evidence of God.
Am I wrong?
Papa Wheelies,
Not sure what you were addressing Mike for when referencing the Milgram experiments but the Milgram experiments were exactly what I thought of when looking at this comment section.
All of you good liberals out there would be served well to look at the link and learn about the Milgram experiments. You are the ones, UNDOUBTEDLY, who would be pressing the buzzer because someone told you too, 100%
You mean the debate where even the liberal TIME magazine called Hitler a socialist and you had zero answer? The debate you forfeited because you had no rebuttal and couldn’t answer the question on what a socialist was because your description would perfectly match what Hitler did? That debate?
Must be a different one.
Because TIME didn’t call Hitler a socialist and I DID answer Ullr, and he did not answer me.
The landgrabs in Germany described in TIME was stealing from Jews.
Hitler stole land from and killed Jews.
You call that socialism?
You’re on your own.
Capital expanded under Hitler.
Here was my answer to Ullr for your reference.
https://kymkemp.com/2020/05/11/pickup-burned-and-fence-trashed-of-eureka-man-whose-image-wearing-a-white-power-t-shirt-went-viral-late-last-month/#comment-1070614
You should try a link to back up your assertions.
More:
“The “socialist” part of National Socialism might be scoffed at by hard-&-fast Marxists, but the Nazi movement nevertheless had a mass basis. The 1,500 miles of magnificent highways built, schemes for cheap cars and simple workers’ benefits, grandiose plans for rebuilding German cities made Germans burst with pride. Germans might eat many substitute foods or wear ersatz clothes but they did eat. What Adolf Hitler & Co. did to the German people in that time left civilized men and women aghast. Civil rights and liberties have disappeared. Opposition to the Nazi regime has become tantamount to suicide or worse. Free speech and free assembly are anachronisms. The reputations of the once-vaunted German centres of learning have vanished. Education has been reduced to a National Socialist catechism.”
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,760539-5,00.html
The word Nazi was German short form for national socialist party. Hitler was big on socialism. Look it up. Also all this Nazi, Hitler, racism,etc.. stuff that has been going around is nothing more than paranoia from a moral panic based on a false consensus reality. Its a big act based on nothing. Jussie Smollet pretty much ended it with his silly little stunt.
If a guy in a blue suit says, “my suit is red”, that is the equivalent of Hitler and the “socialist” part of NAZI.
Why do conservatives skip right over the first part of the acronym;
National?
Don’t forget, the Jews were left wing socialists and communists. Not really Hitlers friends, if you know what I mean.
Capitalism and privatization expanded under Hitler.
Don’t get fooled by his rhetoric.
It’s obvious with today’s American NAZIS, they are anti socialist nationalists.
(Conservatives).
It’s very simple really.
Let me guess real brian– ….and there’s neo Nazis rising up across the country right now with arms and ready to lynch brown people, right? Ooooh! Better be scared!
You are the oppressor of minorities. You are losing your power and your left wing agenda is being questioned and challenged. Today’s leftists (neoliberals) are keeping certain people afraid to maintain their power. You’re trying to pull off a classic Saul Alinsky technique straight out of Rules for Radicals. You are a big act and putting on a big act unconsciously. Don’t be fooled by yourself. It’s bad to be fooled by others, but even more dangerous to be fooled by yourself. It’s very simple really. I can see right through you and all your pathetic left wing rhetoric. BTW I have Jewish ancestry and tattooed relatives who escaped from the 1940s Germany camps. I still fight against racist and ignorant leftists for them and my children and for the future of my country.
Good luck with all that.
LOL
“A Veteran” is either incredibly ignorant or incredibly naive to think that the “nazis were socialists” argument will still gain any traction.
We don’t need to play word games with the NSDAP name. We have the words of the Shitbag himself who in his Shitbag Opus, describes his attitude towards Marxism and Socialism:
…The Jewish doctrine of Marxism rejects the aristocratic principle of Nature and replaces the eternal privilege of power and strength by the mass of numbers and their dead weight. Thus it denies the value of personality in man, contests the significance of nationality and race, and thereby withdraws from humanity the premise of its existence and its culture. As a foundation of the universe, this doctrine would bring about the end of any order intellectually conceivable to man. And as, in this greatest of all recognizable organisms, the result of an application of such a law could only be chaos, on earth it could only be destruction for the inhabitants of this planet.
If, with the help of his Marxist creed, the Jew is victorious over the other peoples of the world, his crown will be the funeral wreath of humanity and this planet will, as it did thousands of years ago, move through the ether devoid of men.
Eternal Nature inexorably avenges the infringement of her commands.
Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord [p. 60].
…To what an extent the whole existence of this people is based on a continuous lie is shown incomparably by the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, so infinitely hated by the Jews. They are based on a forgery, the Frankfurter Zeitung moans and screams once every week: the best proof that they are authentic… For once this book has become the common property of a people, the Jewish menace may be considered as broken [p. 279].
…His unfailing instinct in such things scents the original soul (die urspruengliche Seele) in everyone, and his hostility is assured to anyone who is not spirit of his spirit. Since the Jew is not the attacked but the attacker, not only anyone who attacks passes as his enemy, but also anyone who resists him. But the means with which he seeks to break such reckless but upright souls is not honest warfare, but lies and slander.
Here he stops at nothing, and in his vileness he becomes so gigantic that no one need be surprised if among our people the personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew.
The ignorance of the broad masses about the inner nature of the Jew, the lack of instinct and narrow-mindedness of our upper classes, make the people an easy victim for this Jewish campaign of lies.
While from innate cowardice the upper classes turn away from a man whom the Jew attacks with lies and slander, the broad masses from stupidity or simplicity believe everything. The state authorities either cloak themselves in silence or, what usually happens, in order to put an end to the Jewish press campaign, they persecute the unjustly attacked, which, in the eyes of such an official ass, passes as the preservation of state authority and the safeguarding of law and order.
Slowly fear and the Marxist weapon of Jewry descend like a nightmare on the mind and soul of decent people.
They begin to tremble before the terrible enemy and thus have become his final victim.
The Jews domination in the state seems so assured that now not only can he call himself a Jew again, but he ruthlessly admits his ultimate national and political designs. A section of his race openly owns itself to be a foreign people, yet even here they lie. For while the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a Palestinian state, the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb Goyim. It doesn’t even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organization for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks.
It is a sign of their rising confidence and sense of security that at a time when one section is still playing the German, Frenchman, or Englishman, the other with open effrontery comes out as the Jewish race.
How close they see approaching victory can be seen by the hideous aspect which their relations with the members of other peoples takes on.
With satanic joy in his face, the black-haired Jewish youth lurks in wait for the unsuspecting girl whom he defiles with his blood, thus stealing her from her people. With every means he tries to destroy the racial foundations of the people he has set out to subjugate. Just as he himself systematically ruins women and girls, he does not shrink back from pulling down the blood barriers for others, even on a large scale. It was and it is Jews who bring the Negroes into the Rhineland, always with the same secret thought and clear aim of ruining the hated white race by the necessarily resulting bastardization, throwing it down from its cultural and political height, and himself rising to be its master.
For a racially pure people which is conscious of its blood can never be enslaved by the Jew. In this world he will forever be master over bastards and bastards alone.
And so he tries systematically to lower the racial level by a continuous poisoning of individuals.
And in politics he begins to replace the idea of democracy by the dictatorship of the proletariat.
In the organized mass of Marxism he has found the weapon which lets him dispense with democracy and in its stead allows him to subjugate and govern the peoples with a dictatorial and brutal fist.
He works systematically for revolutionization in a twofold sense: economic and political.
Around peoples who offer too violent a resistance to attack from within he weaves a net of enemies, thanks to his international influence, incites them to war, and finally, if necessary, plants a flag of revolution on the very battlefields.
In economics he undermines the states until the social enterprises which have become unprofitable are taken from the state and subjected to his financial control.
In the political field he refuses the state the means for its self-preservation, destroys the foundations of all national self-maintenance and defense, destroys faith in the leadership, scoffs at its history and past, and drags everything that is truly great into the gutter.
Culturally, he contaminates art, literature, the theater, makes a mockery of natural feeling, overthrows all concepts of beauty and sublimity, of the noble and the good, and instead drags men down into the sphere of his own base nature.
Religion is ridiculed, ethics and morality represented as outmoded, until the last props of a nation in its struggle for existence in this world have fallen.
Now begins the great last revolution. In gaining political power the Jew casts off the few cloaks that he still wears. The democratic peoples Jew becomes the blood-Jew and tyrant over peoples. In a few years he tries to exterminate the national intelligentsia and by robbing the peoples of their natural intellectual leadership makes them ripe for the slaves lot of permanent subjugation.
The most frightful example of this kind is offered by Russia, where he killed or starved about thirty million people with positively fanatical savagery, in part amid inhuman tortures, in order to give a gang of Jewish journalists and stock exchange bandits domination over a great people.
The end is not only the end of the freedom of the peoples oppressed by the Jew, but also the end of this parasite upon the nations. After the death of his victim, the vampire sooner or later dies too [pp. 293-296].
A. Hitler, Mein Kampf (“My Struggle”), Houghton Mifflin, New York: Hutchinson Publ. Ltd., London, 1969.
(Copyright © 2016 Yad Vashem. The World Holocaust Remembrance Center)
I guess that’s why they called themselves “The National Socialist German Workers Party”
Negative.
That is a guy in a blue car telling you its red, and you agreeing.
I guess if we reduce history to such simplicity we could just say the NAZIs were just having a “party”.
I actually laughed this afternoon…
🥳🥳🥳🥳
If man made God, than who made man Brian?
There is no “who” in creating man..
Only “what”.
Heat, light, oxygen, photosynthesis and single celled organisms mostly.
Oh. And time, with some percent of luck.
Who created the single celled organisms Brian? Photosynthesis is a process used by plants and cyanobacteria, how did those come about? Heat, light, oxygen? None of that stuff is alive, what put the life spark in those things? I know God made us from dirt and breathed life into us, thats how. Scientists still can’t figure out how to make a rock breath, no matter how much heat, light, oxygen and photosynthesis they try to combine in a chamber lol.
Wait, rocks not breathing is proof of God to you?
Oh boy.
Your Mom
Re-open the Midway Drive-in.
I will be sure to never do business with Carbonneau Ceramic Tile.
You couldn’t afford tile. Get yourself some new linoleum.
Nothing like a hunk of meat without a brain!
Luckily my one single cell of a brain still can think for itself.
For sure! Well said.
What did Jesus say about show-boating money worshippers showing up at his temple?
Go outside and pray to mother earth as she intended you do when SHE created you.
Church is NOT essential. You may as well say getting one’s nails done is essential.
What brand of gun would jesus use to kill the heretics?
Yeah this was from the man that threatened me with his buddies in the Hells Angels.
Church is important for quality of life for some people. Worth risking life for some people. Who are you to judge them. Get a life, worry about you and yours. Stop judging and leave people to live how they want.
The best way to protect people is to keep them from being exposed to other people who are infected. Since they have to interact with other people, keeping other people from being infected is the best way to keep them from being infected. Even a selfish git should realize that protecting everyone is the best way to protect themselves and those they care about most. There is no option to only think about yourself when a pandemic is involved.
Too bad your “best way” is impossible to keep for long and, if arrogantly and rigidly enforced, will cause an explosion of rebellion. It is like holding a cat where, even if its done for the cat’s own good, must be done in a way the cat agrees with it for it to succeed for more than a short time.
Actually if we refused to bailout the corporations, we could easily shelter in place until this is over.
Snake-Wrastlin, Cocaine, ‘Backy, an Whores are an important quality of life issue for some people too.
I could say that about the strip club
Just another gathering of complete idiots. All their looking for is news media coverage, and by all the pictures they have reached their goal. Noticed several wearing face masks while protesting. Those are the ones that are really confused. Grow up people and go home, you are not needed or wanted!!
No, they aren’t confused. Rather, they understand masking protects others as well as themselves. And, I may not fully agree with them, at least those supporting unrestricted opening (and most of the protesters likely don’t either), but they are not wrong in wanting to get the economy moving again. It can be done while also being done as safely as possible, otherwise we will be shutdown for months to come. Not many will be able to house and feed their families if the shut down goes on all summer and into fall, or winter. Have some compassion and empathy!
…and we were not looking for news coverage. I avoided the press and avoided having my picture taken by dishonest press. You are projecting again and wrong again.
Then WTF were ya doin out in public goofball? I was out livin my free life, being productive while you were crying about some fake WANNABE liberty issue, because Hannity, and Ingram got you all frantic.
Try saying that to a US Veteran who isn’t in a wheel chair, and we will see how much your freedom of speech means to him.
People like you turn away at the moment when humanity needs good men and women to stand up against an overly aggressive government.
People like you are disgusting to listen to.
Thank a Veteran so you can enjoy your 1st Amendment.
Did you mess up and not use your new “US Veteran” name here?
Woops!
Slip up on aisle 3.
Multiple personalities can be so hard to keep track of. Send “suzanne” over for help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enz6o_TwBc0
I’m not a Bill Gates fan anyways so I have never paid too much attention to the scope of his programs so it was nice to see people around the world are spreading awareness about the depth and (possibke) goals of his promoting his ideals.
The ones wearing a face mask don’t want to lose their jobs or be doxxed. I talked with them. You did not. You are the one confused.
To the woman with the slave sign. Are you saying having slaves is acceptable and muzzling them is ok? Whatever your point is no thinking person would agree with your false equivalency.🤦🏼♂️
Metal torture devices are not in anyway comparable to a thin cloth mask, incase you are unsure what false equivalency means.
As long as it’s safe, sane, and consensual. 🙂
This sign uses the rhetorical device of ‘logos’.
To clarify: Muzzles were used on slaves to silence them and depersonalize them, to degrade them and dehumanize them. Muzzles are used on animals to silence them and prevent them attacking, not to torture them.
Healthy human beings, against their free will, are being forced to wear masks which silence and depersonalize the human person and suggest that we are a danger to others.
Hope this explanation helps.
Not the same.
Masks are used in the covid context, to keep your saliva, and boogers off my shit.
Masks aren’t muzzles though. Surgeons wear masks to protect there patient. I wear a mask so i can go back to work while decreasing the disease threat that is sweeping the world.
The masks are actually increasing diseases and lowering your immunity with CO2 reuptake and causing CO2 toxicity, among many things.
Bullshit quit making shit up or cite a reputable source. You represent all us Veterans when you tag yourself as such. If you arnt speaking facts then do not speak.
In times of failed or no leadership, civilians often turn to veterans for leadership. YOU are giving out false info. Stop.
It’s basic science. I’m stating well known documented facts on human respiration. Look it up and educate yourself on the subject for a change instead of blindly following so called authority and not questioning them. I appreciate you questioning me though. I do not want anybody to look up to me. Everyone should lead themselves and be their own hero, be independent and free. You are the only failed leadership because you’ve failed to lead yourself and expect others to look up to veterans instead of looking up to themselves. Don’t put people down like that. They’re better than that. They don’t have to look up to anyone but themselves because all humans possess awesome power and great strength. You’re putting on a big act that people are just “poor little people”.
” All human life and it’s frantic concerns are nothing more than a big act, and we unconsciously set this up. ”
” We wake up when we stop pretending that we’re not god. In the meantime, we’re playing the silly little game, oh, I’m just poor little me! ”
~Alan Watts
You said a lot of circle around speak. Try that bullshit on someone not keen to bullshit. Saying something is common knowledge isnt the same as tell ne your source. Im talking to YOU mr veteran. As a Marine to…im guessing chair force? Where is direct info supporting your statement? Besides hey its common knowledge?
Its bullshit I know it YOU know it. Failed leadership? Do you send a squad into a firefight based on hey everyone knows?? No! And if you are that kind of failed leadership, I as squad leader is going to question your intel. Get what im saying here US Veteran?
Those who have served know that 90% of people in the Armed Forces are worthless Pieces of Shit.
Cause they do a job you won’t?
BULLSHIT! EVERYONE I SERVED WITH DID THEIR JOBS IN THE FACE OF MORTAL DANGER, [edit]
Sorry, Kym. I typically would edit myself, but this is a very raw emotional response.
Thank you No Filter Vet.
The “US Veteran” commentor is not a veteran.
I know that for a fact.
And you could see right through his spin.
He is a bullshit veteran, nothing more.
Veterans don’t quote Alan watts.
Sid does. Kyms biggest troll trying yet another fake ass personality.
Id say you are by far her biggest troll..
Wisdom and miracles do happen.
//” All human life and it’s frantic concerns are nothing more than a big act, and we unconsciously set this up. ”//
That sums up the Wuhan Virus source.
This phony pandemic is no natural act nor surprise. We’re but a link in the chain of evolution as humans. All this suffering and pain, what a wake-up alarm.
so wearing a mask at work on and off for 49 years is bad for me? Who’d a thunk it?
I wear masks constantly at work. I do heavy labor in an n95 or respirator. Even cooking in the sun under a tyvek suit to boot. Certainly never got sick from it. Properly using any safety equipment is the responsibility of the wearer.
He’s just spouting lies. Masks, nor respirators build up CO2. An N95 mask, nor a PM2.5 (2.5 microns, or 2.5 x 10^-6 meters) mask will stop a CO2 molecule, which is approximately 400 pico meters (400 x 10^-12 meters) . Why would someone design a mask of any kind, even a gas mask, that would suffocate its user?
Ignorant people parroting other people who intentionally spread false information to support their interests! The funny thing is they think we are all sheep and only they think for themselves.
Sorry, “will not stop” a CO2 molecule.
No, they are not. Read some real studies and apply some common sense. From one veteran to another, no one is trying to take your civil liberties by telling you to wear a mask; it is to protect others.
Real doctors and scientists are being a
Censored, what does that tell you…?
It’s says that there is one narrative and you must accept it.
It sucks.
It tells me you are full of it!
There is a Utube policy to delete covid19 videos that do not parrot WHO and CDC information.
The work of Stanley Milgram shouldn’t be lost on this pandemic.
https://youtu.be/fCVlI-_4GZQ
Obviously fake doctors and obviously fake scientists are being moderated, and it’s awesome.
Alex jones psychosis is being regulated.
Disgusting and false comparison. you should be ashamed. You have not one iota of comparison to be treated as a slave. Go home to ‘your’ home, eat your food, sleep in your bed, get up and do as you want, fear not beatings, rape, work till your skin wears off, etc. Your little grin lets your ignorance shine.
We do have a right to free speech, but it’s still illegal to shout “Fire!” in a crowded theater.
Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins.
This deadly virus is spread by people who think they’re healthy but are carrying the disease and showing no symptoms. When you cough, sneeze, shout, or even simply exhale, you are spreading germs in your breath that can infect people dozens of feet away from you. Wearing a mask is the only way to prevent this. If you want to kill your own relatives, that’s between you and them, but you have no right to endanger me or my vulnerable family because you’re so selfish you can’t be bothered to keep your virus infected breath to yourself.
The government has lots of laws and rules to protect you and me from dangerous people.
An asymptomatic person, who may or may not be carrying the virus, in a public place without wearing a mask, is a dangerous person.
I have a right to be protected from your germs.
You do not have a right to spread them.
Please wear a mask in public, it’s the only way we’re going to slow down this pandemic.
Slownit down?
The average age of death from corona virus is 79. the average lifespan of a U.S. Citizen is 78. The average US citizen — easy to program.
First of all, you don’t have any credibility based on all of your previous BS posts; however, there is a reason in statistics that averages are only used in context, because they are worthless on their own.
Not true!
//The government has lots of laws and rules to protect you and me from dangerous people.//
The people who operate and control our government are dangerous people. Who’s whoopin’ on who?
It’s perfectly legal and within your right to yell “fire” in a crowded theater… especially if there is a fire. The criminal act is the mayhem caused by inciting people to act if there is not a fire. It’s not the speech that is criminal, it is the call to action.
Given as wearing a cloth mask does not depersonalize nor silence a person, nor is that why you’re being forced to wear one, there is a bit of a flaw in that explanation.
A “slave” is also a human being that has become enslaved against their will. Her sign implies enslaved human being are not actually humans. And to compare wearing a mask to keep people other than yourself safe to slavery is disgusting. She should be ashamed.
Joe E Collins
Joe Collins is an idiot.
Collins quickly put the newfound cash to use. In August, Collins posted photos with Donald Trump Jr. and Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani at a fundraiser for Trump in the Hamptons. He got there by making a $5,600 contribution from his campaign to Trump’s joint fundraising committee. Collins’ campaign also spent nearly $9,000 at Trump’s hotel in Washington, between a July event and a September stay.
That’s a tiny slice of the roughly $20 million political committees have spent at Trump-owned businesses since the 2016 election cycle. But the Trump Organization isn’t the only company benefiting from Collins’ campaign spending.
In just three months, Collins’ brand-new campaign spent nearly $59,000 on travel and food, making up nearly 14 percent of his spending. That includes more than $19,000 on Delta flights, nearly $5,000 on Uber rides and a whopping $14,609 at the Palm Restaurant, a high-end Washington steakhouse that features portraits of major political players on its walls.
Much of the remainder of Collins’ spending went toward fundraising efforts to keep the money flowing in. The Collins campaign paid an unknown company called Pure Strategy Solutions $77,378 through September to do some of its fundraising work. There is no record of the company in California public records, nor is there any record of the company’s Beverly Hills address.
Collins didn’t respond to a request for comment about his campaign spending by the time of publication.
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/11/maxine-waters-lucrative-chance-to-challenge-her/
No way. Your explanation is as stupid as the sign being displayed by these stupid pricks. But apparently you’re just as lame for attempting to rationalize and justify this horrible, racist display of ignorance and hate.
Definetely a head shaker. Invoking that horror to further a separate cause is selfish and manipulative at best and malicious at worst.
And another great comment!
It’s a terrible sign.
Haha! 😜
Agree with you 100% “Economics Stupid”; comparing cloth masks to muzzles is beyond ridiculous
Not a single trump sign, disappointed
Only trump could make the mask wearing a Red or Blue issue. Great leadership there, Sparky!
It was supposed to be an ANARCHY Rally, SHEEP-PIG
A meek turnout of uneducated mentally I’ve got no life souls. Chicken Little protesters. Most likely transplants from Mississippi.
Wow! Do you feel better about yourself now? First, it is a big assumption that the protesters are uneducated. Second, uneducated is not synonymous with unintelligent, or stupid. I know many “uneducated” people who are extremely intelligent. Third, I have met many great people in Mississippi, along with the bad people that can be found anywhere in the U.S. (even Humboldt!).
How about trying to put yourself in their shoes for a moment; they are just as scared as you and I of the impact on our way of life and home/health security and are fighting back as best they can against things that are out of their control.
Chicken littles? Uh.. Oh.. I love how the same reheotic is used by both sides when they dont like what someone likes…
There are alot of Stupid people who are not assholes. I’d probably enjoy fishing with some of those folks. Too bad They are trusting. That Soft-handed Atlantic City con man has a bunch of decent Americans acting like fools.
Mississippi has many awesome people, and I feel blessed to have met some of them.
Should we put together a counter-protest, and stand on the other side of the street? (masked and 6ft apart, of course)
I’m not going to show up if it’s just me… other states have demonstrated these crazies are prone to violence, and strength in numbers would be smart.
I think the best way to protest the reopening of our society would be to stay at home. Away from the crazies and viruses and other scary things. Please, stay home, all who want to should stay home. Others should be free to do as they chose. Everyone is Essential
Yes!
People who question authority are crazy? Hmmm kinda like any white guy who displays a firearm (scary evil thing) in public is a racist, right?
Except these people aren’t questioning anything. They’re just being the willing pawns of the wealthy elite.
Ahhhh never thought of it that way. And liberal protesters which we have see in swarms in the last Three years protesting EVERYTHING? Who are they pawns too?
Not necessarily Racist, just a RWNJ is all!!!
Try it if you are black!
No, you should support their 1st amendment rights to peaceably assemble and to speak against the government without fear of reprisal, whether you agree with their position or not.
Does that mean I don’t have a 1st amendment right to stand on the other side of the street and hold up a sign saying they’re all fucking morons?
You absolutely do!
Bushytails— So these crazies are prone to violence? WTF?!?! I was there at the protest and I’m Buddhist. I refuse to be violent. It’s the leftists that have shown that they are prone to violence ever since Trump became president and right before. Just look at antifa. Look at how many Trump supporters have been harassed and violently attacked over the past 4 years. I was assaulted by a car as a pedestrian because I was wearing a Trump hat. Yeah, I’m Buddhist and a Trump supporter! Your cognitive dissonance is torturing you now, right? There’s a list of 200 attacks on Trump supporters across the nation that is constantly being updated. WHY DON’T YOU LOOK AT THAT!?!? Where have you been? Furthermore, leftists has been making up dozens if not hundreds of hate crimes and violent attacks and blaming it on the right because THE DEMAND FOR HATE AND VIOLENCE ON THE RIGHT FAR OUTWEIGHS THE SUPPLY THE LEFT WANTS. Do I need to remind you of Jussie Smollet in Chicago and his little stunt? He hired 2 Nigerians to beat him up and blame it on Trump supporters. Remember the Bernie bro who shot the Republicans on the baseball field? Are you blind? You are projecting again, the one thing the left is good at.
It’s not exactly a one way street.
Remember Charlottesville? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/charlottesville-rally-turns-deadly-one-killed-after-car-strikes-crowd-n792116
And here’s some more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2019/aug/28/in-the-name-of-trump-supporters-attacks-database
Violence on either side is not acceptable.
Photo by Ryan M. Kelly.
And is it just me, or do Buddhists always seem to have anger issues? Many I know are just simmering under the surface.
Remember the store guard last week who got shot in the head for asking a customer to wear a mask?
Way to play the victim, veteran! The fact of the matter is that violence is not owned by one side , or the other; it is human nature. Way to only look at one side of the argument. Hey, ignorance is bliss, after all.
The slave protest sign is wildly inappropriate. Wow…. …………………… MUZZLES ARE FOR DOGS AND SLAVES?????
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Did your camera function after taking that Selfie, or did it meltdown afterwards???
Your the one who advocates that everyone wear a muzzle…. I mean mask, I mean face covering. Is this more to your liking dan? You even have the freedom to pick your color!
FOG,
When living with a highly contagious new virus, it’s best to treat people like a random sexual encounter.
Wear protection.
Pretty f’in simple.
Most viruses are highly contagious. Technically it’s not new, all corona viruses (animal viruses) have been around for thousands of years and have evolved with us, but this one has been modified to affect people from animal for the reason “just in case it did jump from animal to human.” That’s China’s/Wuhan’s excuse. Do your research and don’t be lazy. I made it pretty f’n simple for you.
“Novel” = new
Der…..
No evidence of “modified” Try evolved. Thats what happens everyday, so is more likely.
Patented…?
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/virus-researchers-race-to-file-patents-ahead-of-research-reveal
The story that the corona virus was patented a few years ago has been proven false many times over and you know it! The link you posted is referring to current research on COVID-19. I am beginning to think you can’t comprehend what you read and rely on some one else to tell you what it means. 🐑
Did you even read the article? I never said what you said, you just need to expand your historical data set, and learn about history, The work of Stanley Milgram shouldn’t be lost on this pandemic.
https://youtu.be/fCVlI-_4GZQ
Are those bare naked ladies?
Dude, what is it, where’d you get it, and how can I get one?
I could not agree more that slave sign is abhorrent!!
Allowing the state to enslave you is ‘abhorrent’
Larkin Smalls thought process – “oh look! That person in the picture has something on their face, JUST LIKE ME!! I’m suffering JUST LIKE THAT PERSON! I’m going to show everyone!” And then thought no more on the subject. 🤦🏼♂️
For the woman with the “I’m with Georgia” sign: my son is in the Republic of Georgia, on the Black Sea. That small nation locked down early, restricted travel, did lots of testing and has fewer than 700 cases and only 11 deaths.
The state of Georgia is not doing so well. Over 37,000 cases and over 1500 deaths.
Im glad to see people standing up but man I really wish folks would start to protest the actual issues (preferably from their cars)-our government needs to provide UBI to all residents (including those without documents), healthcare, PPP, free at home testing, hazard pay for essential workers, free childcare, rent and mortgage cancellations, a real stimulus that people actually receive (3 people in my family and we got $0 for a stimulus), no billionaire bailouts, unemployment dept- try answering the phone? How about protesting the disproportionate impacts on the poor and minority communities, those who are incarcerated and basically serving a death sentences now including CHILDREN, and police violence all around the country?
Im not sure why these folks are protesting, no one technically made us stay home, did they? I understood it was a suggestion. Children are dying in NYC and Europe from a mutated Covid-19. Seems super crucial to figure out how to work from home, get up to speed with technology, get yourself an essential job (what are you doing otherwise?), and cut your own hair or whatever. I really do not get it, can someone explain it to me? Maybe businesses that want to stay open should be able to if they feel its a good idea? Would that solve your issues? You all want to work jobs that dont pay living wages that much? Or are you all business owners who just want your employees to risk their lives at work? I think if someone who works at a business that open disagrees, they should get full pay to stay home.
Where does government get the money for UBI and all the other things you suggest they should provide? Please explain how your ideas are in anyway reasonable. I’d be happy to eat rainbow stew with a silver spoon if it was possible but it’s not so let people live their lives as they see fit and the government should stay out of it for the most part.
They find all kinds of money for corporate welfare and handouts to the rich. Money for them never runs out. They been eating rainbows on silver spoons since the ’80s.
The government needs to be supporting the REAL economy, instead, which means workers, the vast majority of whom live off a mere pittance. WE are the backbone of this economy. And WE deserve better.
Country Bunpkin- Where does the government get the money for ~10 trillion in bailouts mainly going to billionaires? Ex. All Americans would get more than 10k if they split these stimulus’s evenly (even children). They print the money! So- “get the money” from the billionaires and soon trillionaire (bezos) whom the government just sold our children’s future to- of course! Ever notice how the only time our government cares about “balancing the budget” its in response to the majority having basic human rights like healthcare and food? Its not a coincidence, they are robbing you!
Also-Money is not real, the government just prints it as they see fit (~10 trillion included), the banks loan 90% using fractional reserve banking too. At this time, the priorities are to serve the elites obviously so we all increase productivity for generations and risk our lives for the economy while the elite get more and more. If your not going to stand up for yourself, stand up for your children and grandchildren.
Government will print the money.
“Or are you all business owners who just want your employees to risk their lives at work?”
Phil, you raise a key point here…
Thanks 🙂 In some ways nothing has changed too. The poor, children, women and minorities have always been asked to die for the economy, every day of our lives. EX. My husband was just weighing potential jobs available-one option was clear cutting the forest, another being a cop or risking his life on a fishing boat in Alaska. HE opted for the lessor of the evils and to risk his life instead for the greater good. I sense this will all end quite ironically with many people who are protesting dying 🙁 Survival of the wisest? Now that’s new!
That’s the most confused, brainwashed, self appointed guardian of the status quo jubberish I’ve read all day. But it’s still early, I’m sure it will get worse…..UBI…USSRA hear we come comrad.
IOW “D’uhhhh……..commernisum!”
The most dangerous ISM ever. Read history, Moa…Stalin….Mussolini…wake up. Educate yourself.
The government isn’t going to save us, everyone should understand this.
…they can however, make it quite difficult to save ourselves.
Papa Wheelies-Right! As they have done this year etc. EX- I have no greenhouse full of vegetables right now thanks to Humboldt County. I used to grow food year around, year after year until that damn abatement program.
To the rest-I do not speak in isms of the past- I speak about a logical science based approach to social organization for the world moving forward. It’s called a resource based economy and if you got yourself educated on alternatives to capitalism we’d be living in a much better world. I’m waiting on you… Check out zeitgeist moving forward on youtube and “get educated” PLEASE. The film elaborates on how people like you have been manipulated to fear collectivism via propaganda about communism etc and you fail to step into your power as a result. Its truly amazing how people do the bidding of their masters so unconsciously.
I advocate for freedom, I advocate for justice and equality, not getting robbed by billionaires who do nothing but exploit the people, earth and spirit.
I’m right behind you, brother.
Wow. Surprising seeing these people there after knowing that one of the new cases of Covid this week was a protester there. He is a family member of the staff member from the local nursing home that had 7 cases related to it…and He was protesting there numerous days with no mask…mind boggling..
Thats not true.
Please site your source!
Not saying that it is true, but there cannot be a cite-able source, as it would be illegal for the government or health system to release personally identifiable information.
We have 136,000 people in Humboldt County and all of 40 give or take show up to protest. Why do we care?
40, isn’t that about the number of cases in Humboldt county? Let’s all cower inside and snipe at people who are mad because they are being forced to go bankrupt at the hands of power mad Democrats.
Covid -19 has a 99% That is NOT what I’ve been reading!!! If they want to play Russian Roulette then be my guest but leave the rest of us who want to survive alone & stop the Stupidity/Insanity displayed here!!!!
That’s the problem dan. It’s not survive alone. It’s group survival. The healthy are treated as the sick. Don’t want to catch covid? Stay inside your house and wear a mask. Pretty simple if you ask me. I’m all for wearing a mask, if you want. Wash your hands and have respect for others space. That’s even more simple. Let’s not complicate things.
They might well BE “SICK” & not know it lots of WELL PEOPLE have tested POSITIVE for this crap!!!! I for one don’t want to take ANY chances on meeting them especially since most refuse to wear a MASK for their own & especially others health!!!
Masks dont make u healthy.m good food and exercise and good thoughts do.
Correct, the sign is wrong. For the worst hit part of our country 99.8% of everyone is fine… or, if you prefer, a 0.18% mortality rate overall and 0.06% for people under 65… or 99.94% of those under 65 are fine.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109867/coronavirus-death-rates-by-age-new-york-city/
You make a good point.
The stats for the infected are worlds different than for the uninfected.
With a 99.8% rate of uninfected versus the rate of 1.2% infected, what’s the pandemic? Not the virus.
“Fine” = not dead to you?
What was the hospitalization rate and ventilator usage?
Why do we have so many unresolved cases?
What are the long term health impacts for those people?
The models that got us into this trauma based mind control mess have been proven fraudulent, and were not peer reviewed. Also Bill Gates controls it and still won’t let programers see the code in its entirety he only opened it up last week with huge sections missing and what is there is not based on real data.
Why are we still in lock down?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ep58auSuoE
Models have been produced by different scientists and agencies all over the world, and most have been in general agreement. None have been shown to be fraudulent. Even if one were shown to be fraudulent, it would have had to have been made fraudulent in a manner that made it agree with everyone else’s models. Being wrong is not the same as being fraudulent, and there’s not even evidence of them being wrong. Early models predicting much higher deaths were based on the transmission rate prior to lockdowns, social distancing, etc. They were not shown to be wrong – they were simply made obsolete by changes in the world.
The people in that video are being intentionally misleading, and often bordering on outright wrong.
Every argument they make about the coding process is 100% bullshit. They’re hoping you don’t know it. It’s normal to need to clean code up before releasing it – when trying to get something done fast, you often use hacks that only work on your system or only for very specific inputs. Most software does not have unit tests, especially not in the early days. And quoting random github comments is about like quoting random youtube comments.
Most notably, at no point do they try to claim that the released software produces any different graphs than the ones that were published.
And then they go on to try to discredit the author because he was having an affair… Because if you can’t actually attack someone’s data, attack the person. That always works. Not.
Bill Gates is no longer actively involved in Microsoft, nor does hosting on a Microsoft site even imply Microsoft developed something. I don’t even see why you try to connect him to this, or what you hope to accomplish by doing so.
Bill Gates doesn’t control ANYTHING except a Company that produces Crappy Software!!!
The number of people who have died currently is a smaller number than the number who will have died by the time this is over or has reached a static status. This should be obvious.
“You have no right not to be vaccinated, you have no right not to wear a mask… If you refuse to be vaccinated the state has the power to literally take you to a Doctor’s office & plunge a needle in your arm,” Dershowitz stated in an interview with Jason Goodman.”
https://twitter.com/libertytarian/status/1262434046933716992
Try watching something other than MSNBC, or reading something other than the New York Times Dan. And stay your ass home if your scared. Those of us with brains have moved on with our lives, or are trying to.
Something like Fox News perhaps??? On a cold day in the Heart of the Sun!!!!
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html
According to this link, there are 85,990 deaths in the US and 1,412,421 supposed confirmed cases, meaning only 1/2 % of the people that we know of, who have contracted it, have died.
That’s ignoring ULLR’s point about the higher morbidity rate of people 65 and older. It also ignores the fact that WHO KNOWS how many people are walking around who have it or have already had it, further driving down the actual morbidity rate.
All of this and the geniuses on the comment section here have the balls to call protestors morons and blather on about science. Notice they are all liberals. Tyranny comes from the left, without exception.
“Tyranny comes from the left, without exception.” {{citation needed}}
Deaths lag behind infections by a couple weeks. You should compare the current death tally to the number of infections two weeks ago. It’s about 1% then. And, it’s only 1% because social distancing has been successfully preventing overloading of hospitals. All models, predictions by competent agencies, and real-world experience (Italy) show hospitals would be horribly overloaded if we hadn’t, with much higher death rates.
Too late to edit my post, but the poster below pointed out I was very wrong. If we actually divide the current deaths by two weeks’ ago infections, it’s closer to 9%. That’ll teach me to ever assume people aren’t just outright lying when they give numbers…
It’s not 9%.
In spite of all your arrogance, you are incorrect. Using your CDC numbers for deaths and known infections, the mortality rate for those known to be infected is 6.1%, not 0.5%. I know, math is hard! FYI, this is not how mortality rates are calculated, since we do not know the actual number of infections. As well, it assumes all of the current cases are resolved (meaning the outcome is final).
Now, I am not sure how the WHO knows how many people have had it that would further drive down the mortality rate. The only way this could happen that I can think of is if the WHO knows how many people were, and are now asymptomatic, for which I have not seen a recognized number. A source would be useful.
Now, how about laying off all the rhetoric? We get it, you think you are smarter than everyone else (even though you clearly make simple mistakes like all the rest of us) and you don’t like democrats. Well, I have news for you, liberals are not to blame for all of society’s problems, just look at the federal government which is currently republican controlled and a complete fucking mess! As well, who just voted to reauthorize the Patriot Act for warrantless surveillance of U.S. citizens? Yes, the House reauthorized it last year. But the Republican controlled Senate also voted down an amendment to it that would have barred warrantless tracking of internet browsing and search history data. You are okay with giving up those rights?
Heh, you are very right and I am very wrong. I just got the 1% by doubling the number they gave, not actually checking the current numbers. Sigh….
We ALL make mistakes, we just need to admit we are not smarter than everyone else who holds a different opinion.
I also noted after reading the OP’s post again that when he said “WHO KNOWS”, I thought he meant that the “World Health Organization knows”, so I made a reading comprehension mistake that invalidates my second paragraph, as it is close to what he was saying in his second paragraph. However, I stand by the rest of my rant.
Marc,
“I know, math is hard! ”
That was pretty funny. I stand corrected on my math. However, the larger point remains. According to this, if you are under 50, your chance of dying is 0.2%. If you are between 50 and 60 your odds are a whopping 0.6%. And these numbers are certainly much lower given the fact that there are millions of people walking around who have already had the disease and have not been diagnosed/confirmed. So if we know that the majority of people who die are old, why are we shutting down the economy for everybody? It is pointless and more harmful than helpful.
https://reason.com/2020/04/03/what-percentage-of-covid-19-patients-are-likely-to-die/
“liberals are not to blame for all of society’s problems”
Yes I think I’m smart. I believe government is responsible for the bulk of our problems and liberals advocate for more government. People ignoring the aforementioned facts on who corona virus kills are almost invariably liberal democrats. So no, I don’t like democrats. They ignore the science while preaching about science. If they ACTUALLY gave shit about people and about science they would demand all of our efforts go towards protecting those most at risk, OLD PEOPLE! And they would be supporting their fellow citizens desire to feed their fucking families instead of supporting an incompetent, overreaching government.
“just look at the federal government which is currently republican controlled and a complete fucking mess! As well, who just voted to reauthorize the Patriot Act for warrantless surveillance of U.S. citizens”
I completely agree. And I would stand with Democrats in denouncing this bullshit. Unfortunately, today’s Democrats don’t seem to give a shit about civil liberties.
“You are okay with giving up those rights?”
No I’m not. I don’t support any internet spying, warrantless phone taps, the NSA, the “Patriot Act”, the bailouts, the wars, none of it. I don’t support any of the shit (ands it’s a lot of shit) that the Republicans do while they’re professing to be for smaller government. It’s disgusting. But the starting premise is that we need less government, not more. Democrats starting premise is more government.
See, we are much closer than many of our statements would portray! I just hate all the divisiveness and BS, regardless from which of the extremes it comes from.
And stupidity continues from the right.
Than stay inside your home and wear your mask Dan! When is holding a job and putting a roof over your kids heads playing Russian roulette? Or do we all relay on government stipends, eat government cheese and hand over are freedoms for fear? Easy solution. Stay inside and wear your mask. No one is forcing you to go play in the rain. But here’s what the weather looks like for the next year. Rain,and lots of it.
What anyone can read if they wish are reports from people who have had COVID-19, or still have it, or whose family members have it. It’s not like some old people are walking down the street and suddenly they get a sore throat and keel over. Oh, sorry, RIP. 1) People of all ages get it, including very healthy fit younger people; and yes, young children are showing serious but atypical symptoms, after being considered “immune”; 2) the disease brings terrible suffering, including high fevers, body aches often described as being “beaten up” or “run over by a truck”, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, severe headaches, distortions in senses and cognition — and of course, our old favorite, lung damage resulting in the inability to breathe and a painful, ugly death; 3) we still don’t know if there’s any significant natural immunity; 4) a significant number of people who got sick seemed to be getting well, and then became ill again, even worse this time, either with recognized COVID symptoms or symptoms of an immune system gone amok; 5) younger, healthy, asymptomatic people are developing blood clots leading to strokes and heart attacks, linked to an inflammatory overreaction of their immune systems to COVID. I don’t want to get this disease even if I survive, and I don’t want anyone else to have to suffer like this, either, even these self-important “rights” activists who put their “right” not to wear a mask over everyone else’s safety. Yoo hoo, folks, the reason there’s only been 40 cases in Humboldt, is because people HAVE practiced social distancing and so much has been shut down. Your right to wear a bare face and go wherever you want does not “trump” anyone’s right to life. Right-to-lifers, did you hear that?
That ignores that staying at home is not a cure for covid-19. Only in a country with secure borders can staying at home eliminate infection enough that testing, tracking and quarantine can make it relatively safe to conduct business. The US has one of the least secure borders in the world. There will be a constant stream of people from elsewhere to start new infections all over the country. Certainly humboldt, with it’s pot workers and drug addiction is one of the places least likely to be able to outlast the virus by staying inside at home.
So get it sooner or later is the reality. Unless you live in a secure compound with a 10 year supply of everything you’ll ever need.
Come on, you’re smarter than this. You know staying at home was only intended to slow the spread so that hospitals were not overwhelmed; it was never intended to cure it. Quit being disengenuous.
The ignorance in this country is dismaying. I never imagined I’d see the day, when in a pandemic, people would refuse to listen to scientists and protect themselves and their community.
Because the scientist we’re wrong. Way wrong. Again. But you still trust them and their narrative. Why?
I trust the words of the Scientists over some UNEducated imbecile whose fathers have been ruffled by a bit of inconvenience that could well save his or he life as well as & MUCH MORE Important to me at least, MY HEALTH!!!!
It all depends on which experts you listen too. The msm does not have a monopoly on expertise, they do however have a stable of career yes men “experts” who are paid to support the msm narrative.
What scientist was wrong, and when, and about what?
How funny; the msm has a stable of “yes“ men! Isn’t that what Trump has? This is why no one lasts long in the Trump admin if they don’t agree with every stupid thing he says and shower him with unrequited praise! Oops, have to go, time for my daily bleach injection and rectal light insertion to fight the COVID-19!
Feathers NOT Fathers I’m having Typonese attacks today!!!
Why should we trust the people who say the scientists are wrong?
Scientist that don’t have all the facts, can’t even tell you when it first hit America, can’t tell you how many people have already been infected little alone how many people have recovered! But they can tell you a lot of unproven stuff of which most hasn’t come true… But you sheeple hide in your home while the rest of us get back to work…. If you feel unsafe that your prerogative , stay home, but don’t infringe on my right to work and pay my bills… For all those who still have a pay check don’t speak for those who don’t else wise give up yours till I get mine…
What “unproven stuff” hasn’t come true? From what I’ve seen, scientists have been right pretty damn often on this. Specifically, they kept saying this is a bad virus and we need to take action now, the wealthy elite kept saying no it’s fine carry on as usual because we need to keep profiting off your labor, then it ended up being bad and we needed to take action.
Not having all the information, or even being wrong at times, does not somehow entirely invalidate science and say we should go with total bullshit and random opinions instead.
“The ignorance in this country is dismaying.”
You got that part right
🤣” 25 million in California will be infected” “ millions will die!” 1,000 deaths .5% of the population infected.
Uh. We have had a fraction of the deaths predicted, in the timeframe predicted. Notice all the empty hospitals, and unused emergency beds? They said we’d have had 100s of thousands of deaths by now. Nope, pretty close to the flu actually. Fauci said as much in a article he publiced in the Lancet last months. The British doc backtracked his doom and gloom predictions too….then got caught breaking curfew to have an affair with a married women. He’s really taking it seriously huh…
We’ve had a fraction of deaths predicted because lockdowns and social distancing were implemented a lot more widely and effectively than predicted.
No, Fauci did not say it was like a flu.
So you read the Lancet?
Here is their latest, basically saying Trump needs to go:
“The Administration is obsessed with magic bullets—vaccines, new medicines, or a hope that the virus will simply disappear,” the journal states. “But only a steadfast reliance on basic public health principles, like test, trace, and isolate, will see the emergency brought to an end, and this requires an effective national public health agency.”
“A strong CDC is needed to respond to public health threats, both domestic and international, and to help prevent the next inevitable pandemic. Americans must put a president in the White House come January, 2021, who will understand that public health should not be guided by partisan politics,” the journal concluded.
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/medical-journal-slams-trump-for-incoherent-covid-19-response-calls-on-americans-to-vote-him-out
Yes he did. Read the article from last month.
You’d better hope there is a “magic bullet” because almost no one can stay home to prevent infection that will be circulating for a minimum of two years. Maybe diligently prepared Mormons. Staying isolated is only a preventative as long as it is totally secure and can last long enough for herd immunity to limit the amount of future virus exposure. And you also better hope for that this virus is not likely to recur seasonally because then you’d have to hide for your whole life to have the security you crave.
An unsigned opinion piece from a British medical journal, a country less prepared than most of the world. Of course some “scientists” are frustrated. They live in a world where practicalities like finding money to pay for wants is the responsibility of the government and not theirs. Such scientists miss that the great outside world is not focussed only on their own limited studies but must go along rubbing up on inconvenient nitty gritty like drug addicts, unwanted children, national politics, running out of toilet paper and a mass of irritating unexpected consequences. Just like the commenters who target their personal boogiemen, they just the point that while pointing fingers is easy, they themselves have failed to produce what they criticize others for failing to produce. The CDC for examples has failed a number of health crisises long before Trump ever got elected. Grow up and put on your big boy pants. One leg at a time like everyone else.
They are dining of negligence in New York, where else is this happening?
We need to question the narrative now.
https://nypost.com/2020/05/05/coronavirus-nurse-says-negligence-has-patients-dying-at-nyc-hospitals/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=airDrop_app
The description that is detailed in that factually light article is quite different than what our local Humboldt nurse told us of her work in NY.
https://kymkemp.com/2020/04/25/a-humboldt-county-nurse-describes-working-in-a-nyc-field-hospital-as-the-city-staggered-beneath-the-weight-of-the-covid-19-pandemic/
And it doesn’t line up with most accounts thus far. That’s a red flag.
Maybe the stress got to your articles sources’ head?
Maybe she cracked, or maybe she is wrong.
The fact that she is not returning calls and developing her story further may be a hint.
And so, your statement, as normal, is making a world of a statement on nothing factual.
Fear mongering.
everyone stay home and listen to your betters. we must stop the boomer doomer. this virus kills b00mers and they are our most valuable asset to this country. dont let all this tyranny make you resent boomers
Sign reads “Covid-19 has a 99% survival rate . why are we locked up ?”
1% of usa population is over 3 million people. Just sayin ,these people ain’t the brightest bulbs.Protesting is good, no masks however show a level of irresponsible and selfishness, not patriotism.
“1% of usa population is over 3 million people.”
What is your point?
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html
According to this link, there are 85,990 deaths in the US and 1,412,421 confirmed cases, meaning only 1/2 % have died.
The fear mongers on this comment section are the ones who are not the brightest bulbs.
I pointed out above why this is wrong. Anyone who wants to read it scroll up.
And I also pointed out above why you are incorrect with your 0.5% calculation. So, who is the dim bulb in this case?
More like 0.6%. But studies are showing a much wider spread of the virus… somewhere between 20-50 times which puts the mortality rate at 0.3%-0.1%.
Mistyped 0.6% when I meant 6%. With 20-50 times the infections equaling 0.3-0.1%.
What studies are showing such high infections?
The ones that offered free tests when testing was unavailable?
The TARGETED testing because no one except countries with their own laboratory industries or extremely small but relatively wealthy populations can ever test everyone.
Yes, ~6% based on the numbers he provided, which is the “case” mortality rate, or the mortality rate based on diagnosed cases. You are correct that mortality is based on actual infections, for which there is no supported figure yet; however, it is also based on resolved cases, so either recovered, or dead.
According to Johns Hopkins (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html), the current number of confirmed cases is 1,465,066, deaths are 89,562, and recovered cases is 272,265. Using these figures (for sake of argument), the number of resolved cases is the number of deaths plus the number recovered patients, or 361,827. Assuming a rate of 50 times for infections, mortality rate would be 89,562 / (50 x 361,827) = 0.49%, but at a rate of 20 times, the number becomes 1.2%. Note, I have seen factors as low as ~12 reported compared to the 20 to 50 you note.
What does this mean? First, the flu has a typical mortality rate of 0.1%, so we know that COVID-19 mortality is higher than the flu. Second, we need to understand what is the actual infection rate, including asymptomatic carriers. Until we know the latter we need to take all REASONABLE precautions
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/virus-researchers-race-to-file-patents-ahead-of-research-reveal
According to Rex and Sheriff Honsal these folks are free to go mask less and congregate if they choose because they are ‘uneducated’. They don’t look ‘locked up’ to me.
Lemmings, lemmings, and more lemmings! All these years I thought it was Chicken Little screaming “The Sky is Falling”. I learn something new every day.
Protest Local/State Tyranny!!! Friday, May 22nd, 12:00 noon. Humboldt County Courthouse, 5th street. Bring signs/flags. PASS IT ON!
Some people like government control and “free money”.
Keep questioning authority. No crime in that……..yet. Still
Haven’t got my free money yet Ms Pelosi! (Maybe she caught wind i was gonna donate it back to Trump..)
Why, exactly, do you keep saying you haven’t gotten your free money from Pelosi yet? You do realize that the stimulus packages were passed by the democratic House, republican Senate, and republican Commander in Chief? Mitch McConnell was the first to propose the stimulus checks, followed by Pelosi, and Trump had his name printed on the checks! Do you even know what reality looks like anymore?
From the amount of non-reality that comes from the white house, I don’t think they do…
Hmmmm than why is she taking all the credit for it than? No. I haven’t got my free money yet.
I cannot stand Pelosi, she is a sell out.
Are you really this daft? Anyone can draft a bill, but until it is passed into law it is only a proposal. It is passed into law by either approval in the House and Senate by simple majority and then signature by the President, or the House and Senate pass it by 2/3rds majority in each after a Presidential veto. I am sure you know this, but you just can’t help but lie in the face of all reason, [edit]
How is your fear mongering over imaginary government overreach any different than saying “the sky is falling”? Nobody is being forced to stay home – none of you protesters have been arrested, have you? Have there been any arrests for not wearing a mask? No! If I choose to stay home, it is not because the government has forced me to and it is not because I am afraid of the virus – it is because I am afraid of people who ignore science, spread conspiracy theories and endanger public health. If I choose to wear a mask, again, it is not because the government is forcing me to, but because I don’t know if I have CoVid and I don’t want to unknowingly spread it by coughing or sneezing from seasonal allergies. I totally respect your constitutional right to protest, but is it possible to make your point without all the insults?
Very well stated, thanx!!!
A stay at home order is the exactly what he said it’s not. An order to stay at home. That comment is certainly not well said at all. The fact that it is mostly not being enforced only means the police recognize the impossibility of trying to enforce it.
We ar won’t quarantining the sick. We are locking down a nation. If you want to wear a mask in public. Cool. Open this country and return as all to normalcies. We are being forced to stay jobless. We are being forced to live without income. We are being forced to be at the mercy of the government.That’s the issue. Not masks.
“How is your fear mongering over imaginary government overreach any different than saying “the sky is falling”? Nobody is being forced to stay home ”
Uhhhh, people are being forced not to work despite “science” you claim to support. If less than 1% of people who contract the disease die from the disease, then this whole lockdown is insane. Do you really like rational thinking?
Do you want 1% of the population to die? Do you not realize that number is >5% if hospitals become overloaded by allowing everyone to become infected at once? Do you not realize massive death will have an even worse effect on the economy?
Massive death? Where? When? We have been at this for 6 months! Oh, you mean the third wave? Keep hiding!
60,000 died in April alone.
The 2nd deadliest month in US history by one cause alone.
Keep repeating your bullshit, and I’ll keep correcting you.
The point is always not that there are no excess deaths from covid-19 but that creating an economic depression in futile attempts to eliminate by government orders it is not a possible strategy. Eventually the continued attempts to bully everyone into locking themselves in their homes simply can not be done. The very resistance to it is not the cause of the spread but a reality that it can’t work as cure.
In other words, ragging on about the number of deaths is not a solution. That just gives a worse failure. A reasonable targeted response would be more effective but then, just as the protesters do not agree with your every want, you would not agree to theirs either. We are doomed by our own spiteful, arrogant divisions and unwillingness to have a civil compromise.
creating an economic depression in futile attempts to eliminate by government orders it is not a possible strategy.
Sweden’s economy is suffering.
Chinas economy is suffering.
South Korea is hurting.
Italy.
Everyone.
There was never a “plan” to destroy the economy.
The plans of virus mitigation failed, and the economy reacted.
It’s not how you form it, like there was a plan to destroy the economy, and the virus doesn’t matter.
Calling bullshit isn’t bullying.
Look at his fucking comments.
Bushytail,
Hospitals are empty, nurses are being furloughed as the economy is opening up. WTF are you talking about? 1% of a population of 350,000,000 is 3.5 million. Have Marc check my math. Are you suggesting 3.5 million people are going to die if I don’t hide out in my house?
I must admit that I laughed out loud at that!
Hahaa! Best believe I double checked my math on that one.
The sign that Larkin Small and Gretha Stenger are holding made me nauseous. Although I do not agree with the position of this protest, I do support the right of people to raise their voices for something they believe in, but the blatant ignorance and racism that the sign reflects is outrageous. Equating enslaved African American with dogs, and humans being chained and muzzled with a mandate to wear masks–WTF???
Agreed.
yaaaawn! Virtue signal much?
Some people have actual virtue.
But you wouldn’t know the difference.
This is interesting!
How many names are you going to post this Idiots Joe Collins crap under?
What’s interesting is you trying to justify racist memes while denouncing masks under 5 different pseudonyms…
Actually more interesting is why the fuck your allowed to keep posting this spam.
Reminder that chemtrails are essential business.
Spread fast yesterday!
That muzzle sign is racist! I can not believe anyone would hold that.
They’re all racists; they disagree with you.
Red, white, and blue trash!
Racist!?! How cliche! This infantile name calling highlights an inability to come up with a reasonable argument. (Oh no, did I just discriminate against infants?!?)
If I had attended the protest my sign would have read: “The hippies won, smoking pot is legal and haircuts are illegal!” 🙂
Haircuts are perfectly legal going to the Barber & or Beauty shop is ill advised at this current time!!!
Ha! For sure.
There has been a bunch of new cases identified this past week, it is too soon to open the stores up.
Yep it jumped from 46 to 64. Holy sh!t Batman! Lock down Gotham city! The joker is coming!
I never pictured you as a smiling guy, but I guess if makeup is your thing, I’m glad to see you happy.
Patriotic colors too, nice.
🕯🌳Its only been half a day and this thread has been more entertaining than Netflix’s. I’ll bet that 99.9% of haven’t been tested and are scared to go have the test done. I’ve been once a month for the last three months. And I’m scared I’m 63. Yesterday I was portrayed as wanting death,not true. Common sense, maybe which really seems to be lacking in some,not all,but some of you.🕯🕯🕯🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
These protesters are breaking the shelter in place ordinance by gathering in a large group, not wearing masks (some of them), and not social distancing (some of them). The protests should be broken up by law enforcement. Repeat offenders should be cited. I’ve been in protests in my life that violated a city or county ordinance and I was removed. Why is this any different?
Please stop exalting these minuscule protests, unless you’re pointing out that they’re irresponsibly putting us all at risk during a week that saw a large increase in local infections.SHAME ON YOU!! larkin small and gretha stenger( interestingly Nazi name). These Karen’s should be publicly shamed and castigated for their dog whistle racist signs. I’m nauseous knowing myself and my children live amongst such bigoted,uneducated ass hats. I’m truly sorry larkin and gretha can’t get mani pedis after co op shopping for organics for their un vaccinated home schooled offspring. Privilege is NEVER understood by the privileged. This TRUMPPENCE GENOCIDE is killing many, and I hope it doesn’t affect your family.UNFORTUNATELY, the large increase in cases this week(at a nursing home!)proves that it is not time to come out of SELF QUARANTINE. STAYING HOME protects us all. The life you save may not be your own and our elders SHOULD NOT be forced to die alone.STOP ACTING ENTITLED KAREN&BOOMER.know it’s shocking to hear, but it’s not about you.
To larkin and gretha, if you grew up like I did, you’d know to hide your racism or expect someone to react accordingly to your repugnance.
Christie’s And Carbonneau, thanks for reminding me where NOT to spend my money!
HAVE A BLESSED DAY!!!✊🏼🖤❤️💚💛🏳️🌈✊🏼
Great that these people are protesting this virus overreaction. You have a better chance of pneumonia killing you in CA than this virus. Massage the numbers all you want but this virus that was predicted to be so very deadly is not the scary thing that is powering this fear based insanity.
Someone always seems to claim something/everything is racist. I think its racist & manipulative to make such “claims”! The liberal thing never changes.
Something HAD to be found to destroy the economy & this virus was the tool chosen. The black ops people are busy taking notes on how the citizens respond to this over reach of power.
I haven’t been tested,I’m not quivering in fear in my house,I can breath in the stupid masks & I have never taken a flu shot & won’t take a shot for this virus! I’m near 70 & not afraid.
Humboldt has ZERO deaths from from this so called “scary” virus.
If you think your mask is protecting you read this article!
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/04/commentary-masks-all-covid-19-not-based-sound-data?fbclid=IwAR2HOB3sNqNXoh0Im3WMRbNrefdbioOfof1FuOewfw7J0Cgp1zRu_Q2qB4A
Nothing new in the linked article. What you should note is that masks may help prevent an infected individual from spreading COVID-19, they are not intended to protect the wearer. The article did state exactly this. My mask helps protect you, and your mask helps protect me. There are no guarantees in life, but if it could help then why not wear a mask until we learn more about this virus and have empirical data showing they either work, or don’t.
“Something HAD to be found to destroy the economy”. … would you like to give an explanation of why any of the politicians, rich elite, liberal elite, republican elite, bill gates, or any other boogeymen of your choice, would be interested in destroying the source of their wealth and power?
Control bushytails. Simple control.
“Once someone has nothing, they will do anything for something” (me)
Freedom and self reliance is the enemy of every government entity. Be it communism, federalism, or yes socialism. Freedom is the enemy. Besides, it’s not there wealth and power they are worried about tails, it’s ours! When the people have to much wealth and power it endangers the well being and false sense of power that people like Bill gates and yes Trump, possess. We the people when free and living in prosperity are a force to be reckoned with…… THAT is why we are fighting for our freedoms and against government control! We the people have literally given away not only our freedoms but our jobs,businesses and homes to the most widely used tactic in any government entity’s arsenal. Fear. If you think this is all for salvation of you me, your sadly misinformed and blinded. It’s salvation of power and wealth.
peace bushytails, I’m signing off, my daughter wants to play scrabble , again!
Some people aren’t concerned with wealth at all. There are people who only want power and control. Once those people have gotten those things, wealth comes naturally.
Calls and puts… It’s quite simple.
You can make more money on a put option knowing the circumstances are grim. It’s actually a great time to make a shit ton of money off the economy if you can grasp basic options contract.
On the contrary taking a call option at the money would be risky af.
I see how the elite and rich are probably loving this economic disaster, look at the candle stick charts lol they are a option traders dream right now.
Indeed, you’re correct.
The thing about shorting is you need cajones, brains and money.
Shorting is a big risk compared to investing.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2867352150015171&set=a.101501796600234&type=3&eid=ARCpMNRxhUQl5a7wFhhBOEtz9RzxShPW98hfBNGVd3afZ9BoVbfW2O8v6M_sUFbe8kLQqpfMrA3srfQV
https://jimmeruk.com/stayathome/index.html?fbclid=IwAR1EW2WHyGQknwJ0RBMQJZg2rfxiHuQggEuObk2-pGrJYK30UC0WhdxbwQs
The claim “…that masks may help prevent an infected individual from spreading COVID-19, they are not intended to protect the wearer,” makes absolutely no sense. So a surgical mask or bandana has a magical one-way filtering system? How does that work? If particles are smaller than the effective filter, they will pass through. Especially if the filter is not sealed against your skin. Cloth filters are ineffective. Period. Buy a n95 mask or respirator if you actually want protection. *Note that a respirator WILL only filter particles coming in, NOT particles coming out because it is SEALED against your face (providing your face is clean and shaven) and has a one-way flap for reliving exhausted air similar to a gas mask.*
The only people I know that want the county open are the slumlords. Life must be miserable for all the landlords not being paid there outrageously high rent.
They need to open the damn campgrounds and blm lands so I can get back to searching for the elusive 2′ foot beast salamander I saw.
What is is it with people having a grudge against landlords??? Ohhhh I forgot….. you are a broke ass that hates on anyone or anything that has more than yourself. Most Landlords are just Everyday normal
People trying to pay a mortgage or supplement their income.
Have you seen the dog shit they get away with renting here at San Francisco prices? Insanity.
Bunch of sub prime slum Lords. Im definitely not rich lol though im far from stupid enough to seek sub prime lending and then project my financial stupidity on my tenants during a pandemic.
Gretha Stenger And Larkin Small’s signs comparing a cotton mask used to protect others from coovid 19 to a slave’s muzzle is insensitive and appalling, not different from those who want to compare stay at home orders to nazism. Such comparisons belittle the true suffering of those who endured atrocities. I can understand if some folks feel afraid of the economic ramifications of this whole situation but resisting wearing a mask is ridiculous. We can get back on track sooner if people mask and social distance.
Well lookie here, here is someone else who makes the same comparison (and wait for it…he’s African American, GASP!)! No sheeple here.
Gasp! Black people can be idiotic too?
Say it isn’t so.
More on Joe Collins:
Earlier this year, Navy veteran Joe Collins was an obscure candidatefor president, running on the Green Party ticket to fight againstthe “party establishment.”
Now, he’s one of two Republicans running to unseat Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.). And his campaign is spending generously on Uber rides, steakhouse dinners, plane flights and nights at five-star hotels, including President Donald Trump’s Washington, D.C., hotel.
In August, Collins posted photos with Donald Trump Jr. and Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani at a fundraiser for Trump in the Hamptons. He got there by making a $5,600 contribution from his campaign to Trump’s joint fundraising committee. Collins’ campaign also spent nearly $9,000 at Trump’s hotel in Washington, between a July event and a September stay.
In just three months, Collins’ brand-new campaign spent nearly $59,000 on travel and food, making up nearly 14 percent of his spending. That includes more than $19,000 on Delta flights, nearly $5,000 on Uber rides and a whopping $14,609 at the Palm Restaurant, a high-end Washington steakhouse that features portraits of major political players on its walls.
Much of the remainder of Collins’ spending went toward fundraising efforts to keep the money flowing in. The Collins campaign paid an unknown company called Pure Strategy Solutions $77,378 through September to do some of its fundraising work. There is no record of the company in California public records, nor is there any record of the company’s Beverly Hills address.
Collins didn’t respond to a request for comment about his campaign spending by the time of publication.
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/11/maxine-waters-lucrative-chance-to-challenge-her/
https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/05/16/masks-help-stop-the-spread-of-coronavirus-the-science-is-simple/
Never doubt that a small group of science experts can invent the nuclear bomb and give Botox to your grandmother
Your article refers to models and not actual scientific research. The author of your article is a “data scientist.” What does that mean? Statistician? He’s not a medical scientist. Looking further into the article, he references other studies that “prove” mask efficacy in the arrest of disease transmission. This is not true. Those articles he references are for more modeling designed by computer scientists, not medical scientists. They rely on a process called cellular automata which is a type of rudimentary ai. The referenced articles are also in the process of peer review, not peer reviewed papers. This is not science. This is opinion.
That’s incorrect. Data scientists analyze all types of data. For instance, they can analyze data that medical scientists collect. In fact, medical scientists ARE data scientists. You collect data (temperatures, covid-test results) and ANALYZE THE DATA. Good try though.
I never said that medical professionals couldn’t be data scientists; I said that a data scientist isn’t necessarily a medical professional. By your logic, I guess I’m a data scientist because I can aggregate and interpret medical information from raw data sets. Does that make me qualified to tell you or anyone else what to do? My point was that the people influencing decision making are using computer models (which so far have been grossly inaccurate), not on the ground data; and are not epidemiologists, virologists, etc. Make your own decisions about who to believe, but check their credentials first!
1665 plague outbreak – Village of Eyam – Wikipedia
The history of the plague in the village began in 1665 when a flea-infested bundle of cloth arrived from London for Alexander Hadfield, the local tailor.[14] Within a week his assistant George Viccars who, noticing the bundle was damp, had opened it up,[15] was dead and more began dying in the household soon after.[16]
As the disease spread, the villagers turned for leadership to their rector, the Reverend William Mompesson, and the ejected Puritan minister Thomas Stanley. They introduced a number of precautions to slow the spread of the illness from May 1666. The measures included the arrangement that families were to bury their own dead and relocation of church services to the natural amphitheatre of Cucklett Delph,[17] allowing villagers to separate themselves and so reducing the risk of infection. Perhaps the best-known decision was to quarantine the entire village to prevent further spread of the disease.
The plague ran its course over 14 months and one account states that it killed at least 260 villagers, with only 83 surviving out of a population of 350.[16] That figure has been challenged on a number of occasions, with alternative figures of 430 survivors from a population of around 800 being given.[16] The church in Eyam has a record of 273 individuals who were victims of the plague.[18]
Survival among those affected appeared random, as many who remained alive had close contact with those who died but never caught the disease. For example, Elizabeth Hancock was uninfected despite burying six children and her husband in eight days. The graves are known as the Riley graves after the farm where they lived.[14] The unofficial village gravedigger, Marshall Howe, also survived, despite handling many infected bodies.[16]
The village’s actions prevented the disease from moving into surrounding areas.[19]
Passed by, the separate sign said “DAVID JOSIAH LAWSON 4-15-17 BLM.” Yesterday was the 15th right…. I think that meant the 37 month anniversary of his murder. So some look like there protesting for their right to not wear a mask, reckon she’s out there for his right to due process and equal protection under the law. I like the constitution.
What do we want? Racist signs! When do we want them? Now!
Following the nationwide pattern of racist, ignorant behaviors such as claiming that shelter in place protestors are “like Rosa Parks” and likening themselves to modern day “civil rights heroes”, now we have white women suggesting that covering one’s nose and mouth during a pandemic is akin to being enslaved and having a torture device forcibly strapped to their heads after being kidnapped from their homeland and transported across the ocean (if they lived) to face rape, theft of children, ongoing violence, forced medical experimentation and early death. And with their sign also grossly putting enslaved Black people in the same category as dogs.
Stop with this disgusting, racist, harm-causing behavior already. Also, stop saying slaves. They were enslaved African people. And the history and trauma experienced by enslaved Black people and their descendants is not for white people to attempt to use to protest anything.
Let’s let Joe Collins do the talking! No sheeple only free people!
Not for white people to protest? Ok then here is a black person protesting the exact same thing.
He is an idiot Trump supporter, what do you expect?
What you thought black people are idiot-proof?
Keep posting your racist spam, we know it’s just you with 10 names fucking with Kym.
History review: Did you know that Joseph Stalin- a Socialist Communist- made slaves out of 15-18 MILLION of his own people less than 100 years ago? Forced labor, mass executions and mass burials of ‘white’ people in the name of creating a socialist paradise. Hitler did the same- concentration camps were full of slaves. ANY human being should stand up against all forms of slavery and tyranny.
Slaves…. I said it
Slavery was going on much longer before whitey jumped into the “Slave” game. Besides…. I didn’t whip anybody, I didn’t put chains on anybody, I didn’t name anyone kunta kinte….. its a level playing field in my eyes. I don’t owe them shit, and they don’t owe me shit either. Simple. Now quit playing the race slavery card. It gets very very old. We don’t care, because it didn’t happen in my lifetime. Just like they don’t care what happened to us three hundred years ago.
Slavery ended 150 years ago.
These happened in my lifetime though
1960 little Ruby Bridges was integrated into a white school
1964 before the Civil Rights Act signed
1965 before the Voting Rights Act signed
1968 before the Fair Housing act was signed
1993? Rodney King
Those are the big ones I remember.
oh, yeah, Colin K still can’t get a job because he knelt in protest to bring attention to the well documented police brutality issues
What a slide past the reality. Rodney King? That petty criminal drug addict whose only success was failing to out run the police out of fear his new DUI would screw up his probation so got beaten up on camera getting his a settlement? Or Colin Rand Kaepernick who used his commercial employment as a multimillion dollar football player to protest inequality? You really think either of those two are good examples of racial inequality a level with the 1960s? Really?
We don’t care..
Is that a new party slogan?
Ah yes, the tired old accusation of “playing the race card” when people discuss the existence of racism and white people’s responsibilities to address it in themselves and with fellow white people. Go ahead and keep sticking your head in the sand and pretending that racism was something that happened “300 years ago”. The fact of the matter is is that you, as an obvious fragile white person, are responsible for your behaviors and that of your fellow white people. Get it together already. Or maybe you need to go cuddle with your emotional support weapon.
I suppose the comment section is a good place to carry on these rambling debates, but I don’t see where they have anything to do with the article
Statistically, two of these people will get the the virus and two more of other illnesses. They are only harming themselves.
There are 22 new virus cases this past week, more in half a month than all of last month. We are headed to a total lock down if people keep gathering in community.
A lockdown leads to at least some people sneaking around and spreading the virus below official radar. Which is at least some of part of the protestors’ complaint. Which is why Sweden has made it easier to voluntarily comply with isolation rather than attempt to force compliance. Because- tah da- forcing, however it makes the fearful feel more secure, is impossible to keep up for the long haul.
Clearly intelligence is not Humboldt’s strong suit.
There are idiots in every County, guaranteed.
And don’t let the comment section fool you.
One bad actor is using up to 7 names just in this thread.
You keep saying that and at one time you accused me of being one of them and I know that’s not true.
Where is your evidence?
It’s everyone that doesn’t agree with you I presume.
I hastily apologized to you for that, remember?
Kym was quick to point me to the likelyhood I was wrong about you and FOG.
And I agree, you’re just you. FOG is FOG.
I disagree with pretty much everybody, so no, I don’t lob the accusation around as loosely as you think.
I lob it because I’ve been correct many, many times. Why? Because I studied him, and he keeps to his patterns.
There are many things happening in the comment section your likely unaware of.
It’s a cold war of sorts.
Over the last 3 weeks he has posted under my dead grandparents maiden names, along with other family members names.
Kym is gracious to delete them.
Late last year, he made a veiled threat at me that was reported to the police as stalking. The case was taken with his real name.
Kym knows, she has banned the one commentor multiple (over 6) times.
But he keeps coming back, because there is almost no such thing as an IP address through mobile phones.
He is on this thread under many, many names.
It’s pointless for Kym to ban him, because it doesn’t work with particularly childish assholes hellbent on their mission.
He doesn’t like me especially because I spoiled his game, and may even have called him out on who it is in real life (in the epic Vaxxed article comment thread)
So. He fucks with me, to no avail.
I just keep calling him out.
What kind of perverted animal posts under dead grandparents names?
He needs psychological help.
And oh yeah. Look, he slipped up right here:
https://kymkemp.com/2020/05/16/at-the-courthouse-friday-a-group-protested-against-stay-at-home-orders/#comment-1071854
Read the thread, he posted under the wrong name further down from that link where he is ” US Veteran”. He accidentally replied as Papa Wheelies.
If you are staying home, wearing your mask and have all your vaccines up to date,
Why are you so freaked out by the people that want to work and maintain their freedom? Aren’t you safe in your safe space? How many of you have caught the virus by staying home?
You can order your groceries and most everything else you need from Amazon. You can shelter until there’s a new vaccine.
Don’t you believe what you’re doing works? Why FORCE your will on everyone else? Let other folks work, go to the beach, live their lives.
How are you going to catch anything in your own home with your mask, gloves and sanitizer, sitting at your computer complaining about a dozen people that want to protect your civil rights?
The goal post keeps moving you were asked to shelter in place until Hospitals were freed up, they are, now some folks want to shelter in place for a year or two, why?
Will you ever be safe enough?
Who is saying a “year or two of SIP”?
Why don’t you answer a few of the questions I asked instead of looking for a snip it to challenge it?
Lets say it’s sip until the end of August or whenever.
My questions remain the same.
Here is my answer to your question.
These high-risk Americans expect to shelter in place for a year or longer to avoid Covid-19
Published Wed, Apr 22 202012:28 PM EDTUpdated Wed, Apr 22 20201:39 PM EDT
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/shelter-in-place-for-a-year-to-avoid-coronavirus-some-say-yes.html
Coronavirus: Shelter in place for another 5 months? Here’s what Stanford researchers are projecting and why
https://abc7news.com/stanford-coronavirus-research-shelter-in-place-california-covid-news/6074566/
If you’re making false statements to assert your position, why should I take the time on addressing your questions?
What false statement?
Nice cop out! You took the time to challenge my statement.
Now you suddenly don’t have time …lol
Well bless your heart! Perhaps your the one making false statements.
You must have added half of your comment later, and I’m under moderation, so mine are delayed.
So at risk persons are the persons wanting to voluntarily SIP longer. Does that bother you? Why?
And the Stanford “5 month” quote, are you making a mountain out of a molehill?
Look from your article:
“We estimate that shelter-in-place would have to remain in place for about five months or more in order to actually completely suppress the epidemic,” said Stanford biology professor Erin Mordecai.
While it’s not likely for a shelter-in-place order to remain in effect for that long, Mordecai says we’re beginning to see some of the positive effects of social distancing in Santa Clara County, based on data from the global MIDAS network.
She is saying 5 months to “completely suppress” and acknowledges that this likely won’t happen.
So, back to you.
What’s the problem?
You asked who said and I quickly found you 2 articles of who said!
I’m an at risk person as well 69 with immunity issues & allergies
You might notice that when pharma promotes drugs they always say don’t take this if your allergic to it …funny thing is, as I found out, when they promoted vioxx you don’t know if your allergic to it until you take it.
Now they want to vaccinate us with no exceptions?
If I have a choice and I chose to vaccinate that’s on me …the same with going outside and all other risks.
” So at risk persons are the persons wanting to voluntarily SIP longer. Does that bother you? Why?”
No one said anything about voluntarily staying home we’ve been talking about mandated sip.
If I go out and …
If your safe at home whats your problem?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hks6Nq7g6P4
for laffs
About those racist,
Gates Honored Doctor: “We’ll just get rid of all the whites in the United States”
A top Center for Disease Control official was caught on tape in 2016 saying that society should “get rid of of all the whites in the United States” to reduce the number of people who refuse vaccines.
A complaint has been lodged against Dr. Carol Baker, who in this clip suggests that they should get rid of all whites in the United States.
This is from 2016.
1:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsEIQzkcRZk
She looks pretty white to me, perhaps she should start with herself. Yep, one of the CDC EXPERTS! Take care when listening to experts.
https://www.aier.org/article/stand-up-for-your-rights-says-bio-statistican-knut-m-wittkowski/
There are a few who are doing the right thing.
That is pushing back on the Big Tech, Big Pharm, and the big corporate overlords of the USA INC.
COINCIDENCE? Two plants that manufacture Magnesium Stearate used to make Hydroxychloroquine were set on fire
FYI …
Large fire at magnesium factory in Madison, Illinois
may 10, 2020
Magnesium Stearate is an ingredient used in Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) AND Azithromycin.
Two plants that manufacture it are on fire, in Madison, Illinois and Sierra Madre, Mexico.
-Ed.
Note: Magnesium Stearate is a common flow agent that pill and capsule manufacturers add to their products (not just HCQ) to prevent their machines from jamming.
Why is magnesium stearate used in some products?
Now Foods
https://www.nowfoods.com/now/nowledge/magnesium-stearate-faqs
Natural ingredients don’t always smoothly flow through processing equipment and manufacturers need to utilize excipients like stearates to fill capsules or form tablets. Magnesium stearate is the most desirable natural flow agent.
Hot Coffee, if someone on public media states something they claim is being suppressed, that is a red flag to question their interpretation. Pure and simple being discussed in a public place is at least some proof they are not being truthful about being suppressed. Skepticism is one thing, making a living out of creating it is another.
Sorry, Guest I’m not sure what your saying or what post your referring to
therefore I don’t know how to respond.
However people are suppressed on places like facebook all the time and then find another media to post at. It doesn’t make them truthful or a liar. They are what they are. We need to discern the difference.
Again, like I said, white women using an image of an enslaved African woman with a metal torture device forcibly strapped to her head to try to make a comparison to white people covering their faces during a pandemic is disgusting, racist and not okay. No, white people protesting shelter in place are not “like Rosa Parks” and no, white people protesting wearing facial coverings during a pandemic are not “the new civil rights heroes”. White people again are being racist, clueless, tone deaf and ignorant with these signs and with these protests. And they stay infecting others with their spit because they are too selfish and entitled to take actions to protect everyone by covering their faces during a pandemic. Also…these white people are the same ones throwing a fit over a Black athlete taking a knee by himself to protest police brutality against Black people.
Black lives are always more important than white feelings
All lives are important and stupidity comes in all colors. Wearing the pig socks is not just taking a knee and one dumb sign is not the whole group.
Both are stupid and have repercussions.
People here just had a fit over a F*cked up shirt and the idiot wearing it, the same goes for f*cked up socks by a privileged football player.
Black people have not been treated right that’s a fact but this is not the way to make it better.
Civil rights relate to more than one issue.
Seems very Kaepernick except they are not getting paid millions while doing it.
NY Governor Andrew Cuomo Shares a Sweet Photo With His Daughter Amid Pandemic (Pic) (via @JustJared)
https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/1261838899938308097
Now compare that photo to this report:
Passengers will be required to wear masks on American, Delta, and United as airlines try to convince passengers to fly again
Business Insider
https://www.businessinsider.com/airline-masks-passengers-coronavirus-delta-united-american-2020-5
[snip]
American’s policy, which takes effect May 11, will require passengers to wear a mask or another kind of face covering while on board aircraft. The airline previously required flight attendants to begin wearing masks.
Delta’s policy takes effect on May 4, and requires passengers to wear masks while checking in, boarding, and throughout the flight, except for during meals. JetBlue’s policy similarly requires face coverings in most public areas, including at the airport.