Conjecture on Social Media Grows as a Central Valley Woman’s Homicide Is Added to a Dubious North Coast Serial Killer Narrative
From left to right: Alyssa Mae Sawdey, Cynthia Crane, Emma Roark, Crystal McCarthy and Amber Dillon.
Between December 2021 and January 2022, four women wound up dead in Mendocino, Sonoma, and Napa Counties. Three of the four were publicly described as “suspicious” by their respective investigatory agencies and beyond that, little information was offered “pending an autopsy.”
In the vacuum of information, social media did what it does best and the speculation began. Basing the analysis on commonalities such as gender, the geographic proximity of these deaths, and the rural sites their bodies were located, a serial killer was given life on the internet.
Social media posts began to circulate warning women to “Please be careful” and “Don’t go places alone, especially at night.”
The three law enforcement agencies investigating these crimes were contacted and all three unequivocally said there is no connection between these four women’s tragic deaths and there is no serial killer preying on North Coast women.
But, a tale as intoxicating as a North Coast serial killer dies hard.
Emma Roark’s body was found Tuesday, February 1, 2022 near Rancho Cordova. [Image from the Rancho Cordova Police Department]
The post was titled “Suspected Serial Killer in the Sacramento area – the cops are keeping it hushed.” The author of the now-removed post claimed a friend of hers knows a bar owner in Rancho Cordova who was asked by law enforcement to examine their exterior surveillance footage “to see if they could figure out who dumped the body of an area young woman at the river near the clay cliffs.”
According to the post, this bar owner reportedly had an in-depth conversation with these officers who said: “they are tracking a pattern of these discoveries that started in Mendocino, then moved to Wilkins, Napa, and now Rancho Cordova (Sacramento).”
After reportedly divulging they were investigating a serial killer spanning Northern California, the officers were said to simply ask the bartender “to keep it hushed.”
The post included a strident condemnation of law enforcement “not issuing warnings to the public.” “I understand not wanting to panic people, but people also have the right to know to be alert,” the author argued.
The post was deleted by its original author, and the moderators r/Sacramento locked the thread as Redditors digitally dogpiled on the author calling the speculation “irresponsible” and one mocked the third-hand nature of the presented information writing “Source: Dude, trust me.”
We spoke with Bobby Perry, the actual owner of the bar called Rstop in Rancho Cordova that was referred to vaguely in the post, who told us, “The post is full of false information.” She never had “an in-depth conversation with the police and they didn’t ask me to stay hushed.” The police did not mention anything regarding Mendocino or Napa Counties, Perry confirmed. She learned about the other deceased women after a social media commenter wrote about them in a comment on a post about the recently discovered deceased Rancho Cordova woman.
As per a press release from the Rancho Cordova Police Department, 20-year-old Rancho Cordova woman Emma Roark was reported missing to police on Thursday, January 27, 2022, after leaving her residence.
Amber Dillon
On Tuesday, February 1, 2022, RCPD announced Roark had been found deceased in a “secluded rural area at the river access on El Manto.” Investigators determined Roark was the victim of a homicide and an autopsy will be performed to determine the cause of death.
Roark’s death became part of an ongoing websleuth campaign connecting her to the deaths of four North Coast women: 22-year-old Ukiah woman Alyssa Mae Sawdey, 33-year-old Willits woman Amber Dillon, 37-year-old Napa woman Crystal Lea McCarthy, and 33-year-old Guerneville woman Cynthia Crane.
Alyssa Mae Sawdey [Picture provided by a family friend]
Four days later Alyssa Mae Sawdey was found deceased north of Ukiah. Later the Mendocino County Sheriff’s Office would also deem her death as suspicious.
Mendocino County community members began to connect the two women’s deaths immediately, pointing towards their common gender, their youth, their Mendo roots, and the characterization of the deaths as “suspicious” as fodder for this serial killer narrative.
Crystal McCarthy [From her missing poster put out by the Napa Police Department]
Another victim of this manufactured serial killer was identified by the name of Cynthia Crane, a 33-year-old Guerneville woman whose death was labeled “suspicious” after she was found floating in a rural Sonoma County waterway.
![33-year-old Guerneville woman Cynthia Crane [Photo provided by her mother Leslie Booker]](https://kymkemp.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/271713178_473685214406634_8618550296196124921_n-1-182x300.png)
33-year-old Guerneville woman Cynthia Crane [Photo provided by her mother Leslie Booker]
Sonoma County Sheriff’s Office Sergeant Juan Valencia flatly told us, “There is no information or evidence there is a serial killer, and if there was, we would tell them. We would want the community to be on high alert and be aware of the danger.”
Mendocino County Sheriff Matt Kendall spoke to us after the back-to-back deaths of the Mendocino County women Amber Dillon and Alyssa Mae Sawday saying after “exhaustive efforts of investigators” there is currently, “no connection between these two cases.” He added, “[I]f I thought we had a serial killer out there, the public would be the first to know.”
Detective Brandt Keown, one of the Napa Police Department’s investigators looking into the death of Crystal McCarthy, said “I did not know there were rumors. I did know about these others. I don’t think there is a serial killer.”
We will be reaching out to all involved law enforcement agencies who are investigating the cases involved in this serial killer narrative once again to check in on the status of their investigation, including the Rancho Cordova Police Department.
Fundamentally, the tragedy of these five women’s deaths is hard to fathom, but as of now, every law enforcement agency, the men and women tasked with identifying serial killers, have emphatically denied it.
These agencies are tasked with bringing closure to these womens’ families and making sense of their untimely deaths. In those efforts, they are asking the public for information regarding these five cases.
If you know anything about the circumstances surrounding Dillon’s or Crane’s death, contact Sonoma County Sheriff’s Office at (707) 565-2650.
If you have information about Sawdey’s death, contact Mendocino County Sheriff’s Office at (707) 234-2100 or the WeTip anonymous crime reporting hotline at (800)782-7463.
If you have information about the death of Crystal Lea McCarthy, contact Napa Police Department Detective Brendt Keown at (707) 257-9592.
If you know anything about the death of Emma Roark, contact the Rancho Cordova Police Department at (916) 362-5115 or Tip information may also be left anonymously at www.sacsheriff.com or by calling (916) 874-TIPS (8477).
Earlier:
- Mendocino County Sheriff Kendall on Rumors a Serial Killer Is Behind Recent ‘Suspicious’ Deaths of Two Mendocino County Women
- Despite Law Enforcement’s Emphatic Denials, Social Media Insists Four Women Are Victims of a North Coast Serial Killer
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People love things to be extraordinary. They love the idea something big is being kept from them by some upper level conspiracy. Serial killers are extremely rare. What’s not rare? Women being killed by their significant other, either current, past, or even just a casual acquaintance that becomes obsessed. If you’re a pregnant woman you’re more likely to die from domestic violence than pregnancy complications. If you want something extraordinary, research those statistics. Sure, we all love murder docs and speculation is fun, but it could complicate the search for the actual killers by ignoring the fact there’s probably plenty of facts about each of these individual cases that are not public knowledge.
I completely agree with you on the domestic violence. And I’ll throw in the rampant drug abuse happening in our communities. But the FBI has said they believe there are around 50 active serial killers right now. In the past they’ve suspected almost 200 active serial killers. So it’s not THAT rare. Bottom line: every woman should take a self defense class, always keep open communication with love ones on your whereabouts, and get your CCW or basic firearm training.
You know what else isn’t that rare? Accidental shootings. As a gun owner you are more likely to kill or injure yourself or a family member than you are to use the gun to defend yourself. Keep yourself and the people around you safe and DON’T carry a gun.
Lol, completely untrue and proven by a study by the FBI. You’ve probably never owned or used a gun before. Knowing proper firearm safety is helpful even if you don’t own one, and if you do own one and say stupid stuff like this then you’re one of the few that would accidentally shoot someone.
Sources: Journal of Trauma, Injury, Infection, and Critical Care, and the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia.
There’s plenty of other factual information out there, this took me less than one minute to find. You have the power to educate yourself.
Anyway. A few years back I was made aware of the s.k in northern Cali because a cool ass person I met.on the streets who yes I really trusted. Well he would dumpster.dive every night and told me he found a hand. Behind a grocery store in mendicino co..
They’re cops. They don’t like to work, so everything is too hard and there’s never an answer.
Jesus. It wasn’t too many years back that Swiddenbank couldn’t find a man dead 50 ft from his own door out in the Cove. When asked why he didn’t look, he said, “Dianna Totten is out doing that for free, why should I get up from my doughnut just because it’s my job?”
Anyway, cops not connecting dots isn’t exactly a barrier to anyone thinking 5 women, in a 100 mile circle of one another, who look a lot alike, and found killed in a single month might be more than a coincidence.
I’m sure in his years on the job Kenny has probably made some mistakes but I’ve seen kindness and hard work in my dealings with him.
Most women are killed by their spouse, we know personally, but in our family’s case, it was pretty obvious. In hindsight. Besides he turned himself in after hitting a deer, pooping in the car, sobering up(not sure in which order) fleeing East. Even with him pleading guilty, it took a year or more of court dates.
The casual acquaintance guy who obsesses over you and wants to kill you? Nah. Get over yourself. Not that common. Serial murderers going undetected because of incompetence? All too common. If investigators have solid evidence that somehow disconnects the cases they should just say that. Then make a case on somebody for at least one of the murders. It doesn’t sound like that. It sounds like they just don’t have evidence, or really haven’t thought outside their jurisdiction. The thing is, not having much to go on except a growing group of similar victims, what are the odds…? One killer who hides his tracks, or Five? All in the same time and area? Dumb ass crimes of passion leave more arrestable evidence. Cautious speculation on my part: Dating apps work on anonymity, family and friends of victims wouldn’t necessarily get to know the guy you’re seeing tonight, he could be good looking and charming… Burning questions: are there other missing women currently? How many unsolved murdered or missing women are there in the geographic area who aren’t white? Were any phones recovered? Can investigators get records from Tinder if they tried? Are there similar unsolved clusters of women killed in some other part of the Country prior to this Fall that have now gone quiet?
Yup, there is a serial killer roaming around Northern CA right now. Women protect yourselves with AR 15s now!
You and many others have COMEPLETELY missed the entire point of this article.
So this story leaves us with either one or maybe as many as five killers free on the land. Calls out for better detective work…
Oh they know what’s going on they just don’t want people panicking it’s pretty clear the victims know the killer, and are probably offered drugs so they go to a remote location. In my gut I know fentanyl is most likely involved. He clearly has a profile worked up going around these law enforcement agencies.
Oh, you know what’s going on despite there being no facts in the article to support your view. Are you sharing this “inside info” with the authorities? I’m sure LE would love to have some random bozo solve their case for them.
Lay off the fentynal, it’s not good for your gut.
Opioids can definitely cause constipation
What does your gut tell you about baseless speculation?
Defund incompetent pension hoarders!
Defend yourself!!
Obtain your CCW Permit and pack at least two at all times ladies and gentlemen.. Be ready to aim and fire.
As a gun owner you are more likely to kill or injure yourself or a family member than you are to use the gun to defend yourself.
“four women ***wound up dead*** in Mendocino”
Seriously? This is the best respect given these women? SMH
We are just a few generations out from a time when women -like slaves -were dehumanized and treated as property, and it shows.
It can take years to connect these types of cases. Decades! Be vigilant. What’s the worst that will happen here. Women will try to be more aware.
Article: “Speculation without any evidence is baseless and harmful.”
Commenters: “Hold my beer.”
These women were transported to the locations where they were found. Given the obvious trouble to load a body in a car, it seems likely they were already in the car, then taken to these destinations. The Mendo/Sonoma cops are glossing over that there IS this similarity in all four deaths. The 5th one, in Rancho Cordova, was probably done on site, as the 20 year old girl was on a walk near the river, according to her parents. Her death has definitely been deemed a homicide. BTW, there has been another woman’s death, in Milpitas. This time, law enforcement tracked down the killer. This and the Rancho Cordova death were both defined as homicide by law enforcement officers.
Oh, I did a little research, and there is definitely a pattern or two, and I’m not talking paisley and plaid.
I think it’s someone that goes to these places when fishing for crab and this is his hoop… that he makes at this time of year. He lives away from people, in the mountains, maybe…and drives a old truck.
That’s what I see in my vison.
Bearded, dark, graying hair and beard, under 6 ft. In his 50’s.
One was associated with a a boyfriend, not necessarily connected, different pattern or two with the rest.
I did not see that about a boyfriend in the papers, mind telling me where you get your info? Please include your logic for “different pattern” too.
See comment, above.
It might not have been the one you referenced, I researched 6 of them at least.
It’s a little confusing.
The one that I am taking about that the suspect was the boyfriend, may not have been your Milpitas reference, but as I vaguely recall, … well was it the one that was found at the bottom of a canal?
I get my info off Google.
And no, that’s all I will say, as far as patterns that I recognized, or “my logic”.
Google them, determine the locations as best you can like I did, read what little information released in each case, look at the maps associated with the areas, apply your own logic and deductive reasoning, and see what you come up with.
I commented after the last one that there would be another one and now there’s another one. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence they were all dumped in rural areas and that three of the five were found floating. And what do you want to bet there will be another one in a few weeks or less just a little further south…? How can girls turning up dead, dumped in rivers not be deemed suspicious of a serial killer when there is an obvious pattern? Five girls in a row with very similar or exact victimology, within a very short time period is not just some random coincidence. What’s it going to take, a string of dead girls floating in rivers, in every other county, all the way to San Diego before they figure it out?
Could the authorities possibly still be waiting on lab results. If so, i’m calling bullshit. Build a lab with immediate results
Do some research on what a full forensic toxicology panel for an autopsy requires before placing blame.
With current technology, this kind of workup can not be done with immediate results
4-6weeks is standard with no backlog.
This is a real pandemic of a problem…
People who have no idea how things work, and thus, likewise have no clue how absurd, outsized, and unreasonable their expectations of immediate gratification really are or how lame it is to have to explain any of this.
This isn’t television or star trek yall.
https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/features/the-truth-about-toxicology-tests#1
Please contribute to the Foundation for the Eradication of Cranial Rectosis and help save us all from this mob mania.
Claiming these women have fallen victim to a serial killer before any direct evidence distracts from their individual lives and the unique tragic circumstances that led to their deaths.
The average person cannot name one victim of even the most famous serial killers. (Go ahead, try to name one without Google)
Why? Because the killer becomes the story, not the lives they took.
When we attribute these women’s death to a serial killer that has yet to be established by facts, their humanity is shrouded by a fog of fear and speculation.
These women deserve our individual recognition. They deserve to be seen for who they were, not what speculatively unites them in death with others.
Imagine you were one of their mothers, with the public attributing your daughter’s death to a serial killer with no specific evidence, just that other women were also killed. Suddenly, your baby becomes one of many, another victim to a speculated serial killer.
Five women are dead—this is no speculation. Each one of them deserves our awareness and advocacy. Summoning a serial killer from the ether does not honor their deaths, it distracts and channels our fear and anger, when we should be channeling our care and grief for these women, their families, and the lives they lived.
If you can’t see a pattern or two you are not looking closely enough.
I did just a little research today and it’s very obviously too coincidental to overlook a strong possibility or even a definite probability.
Overlooking it cavalierly isn’t doing them any favors, and is quite possibly just plain disrespectful, as if they don’t deserve the consideration.
They definitely do.
Patterns are not evidence.
The Texas sharpshooter fallacy is a fallacy that is committed when differences in data are ignored, but similarities are overemphasized. From this reasoning, a false conclusion is inferred
I didn’t say it was evidence did I ?
I am suggesting the possibility should not be ruled out.
And I did a little research.
And I see some glaring similarities.
How about you?
Or is your conclusion just another knee jerk reaction of, they are all unrelated, no foul play suspected, natural death, coincidences?
And I’m sure it wouldn’t be too hard to find an example of a case where obvious clues that were overlooked, leading to more deaths occuring, that could have been prevented.
I said I saw some patterns, I didn’t say what those patterns were.
If you’re making a claim, the burden of proof is on you.
I can say “pandas are the same as cows.” And you would say “that is nonsense. Prove it.”
Using your thought process, I could say, “They’re both black and white, they’re both omnivores, they’re both land mammals, they’re diets both mainly consist of plants.”
And again, I would hope you call nonsense. Or, are those “glaring similarities”?
So, I’ll return. What is your evidence that I should consider a serial killer as a possibility? No loosely-connected, overly emphasized details. No “it shouldn’t be ruled out.”
The only argument for a serial killer you’ve presented is sloppy sleuthing and exploiting the absence of evidence.
Anyone that makes a claim, the burden of proof is on you.
What proof do I offer for my strong belief at this point there is no serial killer? The very people charged with determining whether a serial killer is involved have emphatically denied it. Three separate law enforcement agencies.
For some, that has no standing because they do not trust police investigations, for a multitude of reasons. But, the proof is offered nonetheless.
Listen Matt, that’s just your opinion.
What is my evidence? None of your damn business. That’s what.
And the burden of proof is not on me.
I have made what’s called a,”bold hypothesis”, (look it up on Wikipedia, you might learn something new, like I did, but it’s how I always think.),and so the burden to disprove that would be on you, my friend, and if you can’t, and you can’t prove what you’re saying is true, then you need to back off, and put less stock in what you claim that you can’t prove, and give a little more consideration to what I claim is a possibility, if you cannot disprove it.
That might not be how you think, but that’s how I think.
You are entitled to your way of thinking, but you damn sure don’t control mine.
And I hate fucking wortless analogies. They don’t prove shit, my friend.
When you solve any of this shit, let me know, until then, my friend, I wouldn’t advise you to rule out anything, you see, because anything is possible.
And 1or 2 murderers, or body dumpers, if you prefer, as to 6 or more recent bodies found, with many similarities, is a lot more plausible than 6 or more of them.
As far as your precious trusted leo sources are concerned, you see, Matt, you might want to reconsider that, you know why?
Because they haven’t proven shit, either.
Now you have your proof of a North Coast Serial Killer, Matt LaFever.
Only 5 weeks after you trying to disprove one was on the loose, Naomi was abducted, by a dude from Mendocino, whose first murder he was caught being involved in, was in Mendocino, and then she was found dead.
More than likely, not Troy Driver’s only “rodeos”, that’s for sure.
Say I come upon a guy dead under a fallen tree, chainsaw nearby. People die from all sort of reasons. Trees fall all the time. Nobody saw it, or filmed it. So to be the most safe, we can’t say he had a tree falling accident. Sorry, burden of proof.
They must have wanted you to divulge that, too, I suppose…
Good catch.
Who needs credibility?
How’d that LE “proof” of no serial killer work out for you, Matt LaFever?
You wanted proof of a North Coast Serial Killer, now you pretty much got it, Matt.
The body of Naomi Irion, and her alleged kidnapper, Troy Edward Driver in custody, who has been involved in murder before, from right in your good old County of Mendocino.
North Coast Serial Killer, just about as sure as shit, cut his teeth right in Mendocino, burning the victims vehicle, right on Branscomb Road, 25 years ago.
Never say never, Matt La Fever.
Do you got some splainin’ to do?
LE does. Any of you going to admit they should have considered it was possible at the time?
So what if Troy Driver hasn’t been linked to any others, YET.
Never underestimate the power of an old man’s hunch.
They should definitely investigate a link to Kathleen Griffin.
They probably didn’t even gather any evidence in Kathleen’s death, and just assumed it wasn’t even suspicious.
What bullshit. LE was way too cavalier.
Now Naomi is dead.
Abducted just 7 1/2 weeks after your article that downplayed the likelihood of a serial killer being on the loose, thanks to believing overconfident LE, and then she was found dead and buried.
And she was just a kid.
There might still be another North Coast Serial Killer on the loose.
It wouldn’t surprise me one bit.
Maybe you should more carefully use your words.
“there is definitely a pattern or two,”
– Guest
You didn’t mention that you were “suggesting” anything until you were pressed heavily by Matt.
Dirty, just plain dirty, Guest.
Am super syched that you are not a murder police….but just a dude with a shit pot and a spoon
“There definitely appears to me to be a pattern or two”
There,
You like that better as if I GAF?
That you don’t GAF what baseless and irresponsible speculation is, or what it causes or who it affects, is obvious and crystal clear, at least to me.
Best to, at the least, consider giving a wide berth to any pursuit that requires an adherence to a semblance of ethical behavior and/or responsibility to your fellow humans and community.
Otherwise, you’re a gem to the mob mind and ensuing mania.
They don’t know any better, intentional or not.
Seems you refuse to and/or are incapable of removing your ego from the spotlight.
Contemptable
I see a pattern of attention whoring by someone that doesn’t G(as much of)AF about the murdered victims or those directly affected as they do about “feeling” important while contributing nothing of value and actually creating detriment.
Worry about your own ego, not mine.
I saw a pattern of a serial killer, and now one is in custody.
And, now, unfortunately another young woman is dead.
With enough evidence she was abducted by a serial killer, that Troy Edward Driver had been arrested for her kidnapping with malice intent.
You were saying?
Care to retract your overly hasty and overconfident statement?
It’s not the first time I’ve conjectured something in the comments that has been fiercely countered, that ended up being proven to be correct.
What’s fiction, and what is non-fiction, now, Non-fiction?
??Speaking of dirty, Non-fiction it sounds like maybe I’ve gotten you a little bit stirred up….?♂️?
Troy Edward Driver is now in custody for the kidnapping of Naomi Irion.
She was subsequently found dead. Abducted from very near
I-80, where her car was located.
On January 25, Kathleen Griffin was found dead along I-80 in California, last seen alive in Reno NV, (I-80), about a half hour from where Naomi Irion was abducted, on March 12th, or 13th. 2022, and then killed.
Kathleen Griffin’s body was found just 5 days after your original article from January 20th, 2022.
Naomi Irion was murdered about 7 weeks after your first article and only about 5 weeks after this one.
Are you starting to see a pattern yet?
Troy Driver seems to be quite probably a serial killer, from Mendocino, he dumped one body on Hwy 128, 25 years ago, which you are now aware of.
There definitely was a serial killer on the loose.
Can you admit that now?, that it wasn’t so far fetched after all?
Two months and 11 days after, “despite law enforcement’s emphatic denials”, it seems that A NorthCoast Serial Killer, is now in custody, and another victim, a young woman, is dead.
Maybe we should have taken the possibility a little more seriously?
Looks like the “Infallible Law Enforcement” that assured you that there wasn’t a serial killer on the loose, which you believed, were actually wrong.
It remains to be seen, if Troy Edward Driver will be linked to any other deaths besides Naomi Irion.
They might not even investigate a possible link, to any of the others.
But they should.
Especially Kathleen Griffin.
Kathy Griffin also fits the MO and profile pattern. January 28, 2022.
Associated with Reno, NV.
Law enforcement said it wasn’t suspicious.
It was.
It fits the pattern.
Totally.
Looks like a pattern to me and if you stay on the 80 freeway from Rancho Cordova you’ll pass right through here!
Thank you…
Winner, winner chicken dinner.
Where did La Fever go, all of a sudden?
I’d like to hear what he has to say to you about this…
May be should rightly add Kathy Griffin to this list…
And stop doubting me.
Gosh, Matt LaFever, this comment seems a little more relevant now doesn’t it?
Hindsight is 20/20.
Maybe you should have added Kathy to your list?
This one seems more relevant now too.
With all due respect to you, respecting the victims does not preclude wanting justice and closure on their deaths. We all have female relatives we want to protect, and our hearts ache for these women. However, turning away and just agreeing with a posture that does not make 100% sense is not the way to show we care.
You write: “respecting the victims does not preclude wanting justice and closure on their deaths.”
Do you think I don’t want justice and closure? All five of these women deserve justice, and their families deserve closure, and a speculative serial killer does not serve those ends. It actually gets in the way of considering the individuality of each woman. Rather than examining their unique circumstances, we are binding them together. That is not fair nor conducive to their families as they seek closure.
You write: “However, turning away and just agreeing with a posture that does not make 100% sense is not the way to show we care.”
I’m assuming you’re talking about the “posture” of three independent law enforcement agencies who all independently asserted these women are not the victims of a serial killer. Their determination doesn’t make 100% sense because they cannot release how they know. And they might not ever release that information. That’s for the families.
If you want to care for these women and their families, don’t fuel the flames of sensational speculation their daughters were the victims of a killer. Grief is slow and long, as slow and long as these investigations. It does these families a disservice to whip up a frenzy based on nothing but baseless speculation. This is already hard enough. A story about their daughter falling prey to a killer we have no evidence exists would make it even harder.
Hey. Absent some evidence, good reason to see big differences in the cases, the frequency of these otherwise rare types of occurrences, it invites speculation. This is from a family member of a murder victim 25 years ago. We went through the missing phase, discovery, arrest, clean up, storage, trial, loss for Daughters, Grand parents, Moms, Dads Grandkids. Parole hearings, parole hearings…It still goes on. We also have a daughter in the age bracket of these victims. All crimes occuring in a driveable distance in a close time frame. It provokes speculation. It should. Our loss was ” just another domestic violence case”. Are we saying there are five, six, twelve domestic violence cases floating around, with evidence enough to de-link from these case, and no arrests? Nothing to see here? That’s a story right there. But thanks Matt. It is good reporting to do. Even if it invites difficult to hear speculation. It’s difficult no matter what.
Matt, anytime more than one woman is found out in the woods other women are going to wonder if they might be the next target. They’re going to wonder if there is a serial killer or if there are 5 different killers. In the absence of anything pointing to the murderer being someone close to that woman they are going to wonder about serial killers and they are going to warn each other to keep their feelers out.
Damn it, my dog died this year and because of that I do NOT want to go walking along the river anymore by myself, and I’m not a likely target. I don’t know if you know what it feels like to suddenly have your spine crawl and have to turn around when you’ve just pulled up to a place you’d like to hike. If you do, then think of that happening far more often. This is something women think about, watch out for and pay attention to for their entire lives. It’s ingrained. It’s not manufacturing fear. Fear is already there. It’s voicing it.
As the parent of a 21 year old daughter, I’d rather believe there is ONE serial killer as opposed to FIVE+ murderers currently on the loose killing young women. It often takes many years, even decades to catch a serial killer when their crimes are committed across county and/or state lines. Between 1970-1983 serial killer Randy Kraft murdered and dumped 62 bodies across the greater portion of SoCal, many within just blocks or miles from his home. It took 13 years to connect the cases in different jurisdictions and two other states and still he was only tried for 16 of those murders because although the others fit the victimology, they lacked sufficient evidence to charge him. So just because LE doesn’t have evidence to tie the crimes together to a single perpetrator doesn’t mean they’re not related.
Serial killer alert!
Serial killer alert!
There’s proof now.
Sorry but I still think it deserves a better investigation. I do not know the relatives and yet I know they must be grieving and I am so sorry about that. If what you say is true and there are details the family does not want divulged, so be it. However, I am 100% sure the young lady who was victimized in Rancho Cordova has a family who would like her murder (and police there say it was murder) solved. There is also now another victim, in Milpitas, a 50 + Asian woman whose killer was arrested and confessed. Good police work made that possible. Not saying the Rancho Cordova investigation is at all under par, either. Both were right away “suspicious” and then “homicide”. I think this will be my last post, as I find this topic terrible, but my compassion for the victims, and concern for all women, has caused me to speak up.
Thank you for your insight.
Ether?
Funny you should mention that.
More like, “…the serial killer WITH the ether.”
Don’t forget about this one…
Have you forgotten about this one already?
Maybe you should include her, too.
Sort of cements the pattern a little more, doesn’t it?
Seems like it to me.
I really hope that the next time a woman finds herself In a dangerous situation, like these ladies had, that they can somehow turn the moment around and get away to safety.
Ladies, consider how you can protect yourself:
*use the buddy system
*perhaps take fighting/ self defense lessons,
* get pepper spray or something like it,
* a gun (if it’s right for you?),
* avoid situations where you make yourself vulnerable
*get a protection dog (your eyes and ears),
*be aware of your surroundings as you move, (I look around everytime I leave my house after being burglarized, I look for people parked in cars sitting there abnormallly)
*install security cameras
* put a tracking app on your phone,
*ommunicate to love one’s to your whereabouts if your going out, especially somewhere or w someone new
* let folks know if your being threatened by someone,
*do anything you think is right to do to be safe
* listen to your intuition.
*pull a knife on them if your a passenger in their car and your being forced to not get let out
* fight back or run and scream loudly and be strong
*avoid drugs from people you don’t trust,
*watch your drinks/ don’t leave them attended at a bar.
people scared, especially women but investigators assure us victims are not connected, but how they can prove it if they still waiting autopsy outcome
I’m sorry. But previous “false information” post or not. This looks like serial killer stuff. Serial killers are not rare, they didn’t just all disappear after the 90’s, they are still around, police just aren’t trying to get the public scared like they used too. But really, walk in pairs ladies. Safety first! Like you do when you go the bathroom.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
-George Carlin
Yes, it’s much more calming to citizens to think there are 5 separate murderers running around Nor Cal actively..
Also remember if you have your CCW and are legal and in your house, you just might get shot by the police! But then if that happens we’re are all the gun rights people and NRA saying about this, SILENCE!!!
Wow Matt lefever! What a great unbiased source! He seems like he just knows everything. If Matt says it’s true, it is!
A man that kidnapped and murdered a young woman in Fernley NV last month was arrested. When I heard about this story it sounded to similar to the ones in Northern Ca. After more info was released, I was amazed to hear the killer grew up in Willits and already spent a decade in prison for a Willits murder he was involved in 20 years ago!! You guys gotta check out this article. https://www.2news.com/news/troy-driver-charged-with-murder-being-held-without-bail-at-lyon-county-jail/article_20ad09e6-a49b-11ec-b06a-5f8e4c93b4a8.html?fbclid=IwAR3OT1dsad-Y2NvS_rNoo_ENMmxlB5Pn-_cHxX694sKPReDKU0ggh5WyONU
We posted several stories previously on Troy Driver: