Third Trinity County Resident Dies in COVID-19 Related Death
Press release from Trinity County Public Health Branch:
The Trinity County Public Health Branch (TCPHB) received confirmation this morning of a third COVID-19 related death of one of our residents in their 80’s.
Our thoughts and prayers are with the family. No other information will be publicly released by TCPHB.
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“Related?” lol The scam continues ….
Meanwhile, the hoax continues to unravel. From the University of Florida:
https://web.archive.org/web/20201228015353/https://alachuachronicle.com/university-of-florida-researchers-find-no-asymptomatic-spread/
“A spokesperson for the Journal of the American Medical Association network of publications denied publishing findings that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, does not spread without symptoms. University of Florida researchers who authored a recent study called the social media posts a “misrepresentation” of their findings.” https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9902244410” https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9902244410
“Four researchers from the University of Florida Department of Biostatistics co-authored a study published online by the Journal of the American Medical Association. They performed a meta-analysis of 54 studies looking at the household secondary attack rate of SARS-CoV-2. According to the CDC, the secondary attack rate is the number of new cases among contacts divided by the total number of contacts.”
December 14, 2020
Household Transmission of SARS-CoV-2
A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2774102
“Household secondary attack rates were increased from symptomatic index cases (18.0%; 95% CI, 14.2%-22.1%) than from asymptomatic index cases (0.7%; 95% CI, 0%-4.9%)…”
Asymptomatic spread occurred at a statistical rate approaching zero.
people just need to learn how to live healthier lives, which is a respect for life. PERIOD.
forcing the healthy to listen to unhealthy people is the epitome of lowering the bar.
Quote:
One of the authors explained, ““No, no we didn’t say that,” said Natalie E. Dean, a co-author of the study and a University of Florida assistant professor of biostatistics “This is a misinterpretation of our message of our scientific findings and conclusions.”
Dean said it is important for the public to understand her study was only analyzing household studies and there is limited data at this point. She said “there does seem to be evidence that people who never have symptoms do appear to be less infectious,” but she said that does not mean that people without symptoms cannot transmit the virus that causes COVID-19.
“Certainly we are seeing presymptomatic transmissions before they develop symptoms,” Dean said, a point that is also made clearly in the article text. She called presymptomatic transmission “an important feature of this virus” and said “our policies need to reflect that.”
People who are infected with COVID-19 but are not experiencing symptoms cannot know whether or not they will develop them.” https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9902244410
https://twitter.com/erichhartmann/status/1330871485343404034?s=20
On June 7, Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of the WHO’s emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, told a press conference that from the known research, asymptomatic spread was “very rare.” “From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual.” She added for emphasis: “It’s very rare.”
That was walked way back as you should know. There was a big fuss about it.
“Maria Van Kerkhove, an infectious disease epidemiologist and the WHO’s COVID-19 technical lead who was responsible for the remarks, clarified the next day that the amount of transmission from people who are asymptomatic is a “a big open question.” She said her original comment applied to only a subset of studies and data from member states, and pertained only to those who are truly asymptomatic.
“We do know that some people who are asymptomatic, or some people who don’t have symptoms, can transmit the virus on,” she said in a live online Q&A event. “What I was referring to yesterday in the press conference were a very few studies, some two or three studies, that have been published that actually try to follow asymptomatic cases.”
While we are not privy to the member state data, Van Kerkhove is mostly right that the few epidemiology studies that exist have found little onward transmission from truly asymptomatic people, although she may have exaggerated. One study that the WHO cited in its mask guidance identified no secondary transmission from asymptomatic cases, but another identified spread from nine people, or 14% of asymptomatic cases.”
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/06/unpacking-whos-asymptomatic-covid-19-transmission-comments/
“Van Kerkhove is mostly right that the few epidemiology studies that exist have found little onward transmission from truly asymptomatic people…” sure sounds like “very rare” to me. but thats just my lying eyes and ears, not an almighty altruistic fact checking website. im sure the spread from 9 people is worth more than “the few epidemiology studies”
Just to be clear on my opinion. I’m not saying that asymptomatic people are prolific spreaders of the virus.
I’m saying that the study authors mentioned above say that presymptomatic people can pass on the virus and though current limited studies appear to show that truly asymptomatic people don’t spread the virus much, the evidence isn’t conclusive yet.
I find that when I try to post a comment clarifying information offered, folks jump to conclusions about my entire thinking.
To me, I see folks trying to grab onto any possible scrap that wearing a mask isn’t helpful. This study doesn’t provide that evidence.
Hi, I’m Luiz Provazzi from Brazil.
Even with mismatched information, RNA records of the virus were found in the sewer in November-19 here. (study under review).
Many people became infected at home.
Is there any biological possibility that it is being transmitted by water?
it is a layman’s question.
I could be wrong but I don’t think these researches can publish this study (referred to in Ullr Rover’s post) and then say “we didn’t say that”.
What is Dr. Dean referring to in this statement? It seems pretty clear to me, even with all the scientific speak what the results of their study were. But maybe I am reading it wrong.
I could be wrong but I trust what JAMA and the authors of the study think the study is saying more than someone whose credentials appear to consist of the ability to type on the internet. MY apologies if you have a doctorate in science but it isn’t apparent here.
This quote is directly from the published paper in JAMA. It may not have been what they were looking for, but it is part of what they published.
“Household secondary attack rates were increased from symptomatic index cases (18.0%; 95% CI, 14.2%-22.1%) than from asymptomatic index cases (0.7%; 95% CI, 0%-4.9%)…”
Or a 0.7% asymptomatic transmission rate with a margin of error of +/-4.2%.
And the author talked about that in my quote.
“Dean said it is important for the public to understand her study was only analyzing household studies and there is limited data at this point. She said “there does seem to be evidence that people who never have symptoms do appear to be less infectious,” but she said that does not mean that people without symptoms cannot transmit the virus that causes COVID-19.”
Then she goes on to say that the concern here is that while asymptomatic people MAY transmit little, people who are not yet symptomatic still transmit–““Certainly we are seeing presymptomatic transmissions before they develop symptoms.”
It’s a data point. Adding narrative doesn’t change the numbers. Understanding the limits of the study is important, but that doesn’t invalidate the study and its primary and correlary findings.
It’s called SPIN.
People rarely look at the data, but listen to talking heads SPIN the data.
It’s a new art form.
Weaponized tool to keep people from understanding the big picture.
I’m not seeing that there should be any argument here.
Kym quoted Dr Dean: “there does seem to be evidence that people who never have symptoms do appear to be less infectious,”
Ullr Rover quoted the study: “Household secondary attack rates were increased from symptomatic index cases (18.0%; 95% CI, 14.2%-22.1%) than from asymptomatic index cases (0.7%; 95% CI, 0%-4.9%)…”
Isn’t .7% “less infectious”??
Maybe I should have gotten that doctorate in science after all.
It’s funny that every time you post some link which is supposed to support your misrepresentation of research, thinking you have some “gotcha” moment over the better informed, the response to that misrepresentation has already been posted by the academic journal or the pertinent authors.
If we wanted to keep track of the spread of Covid disinformation on social media and scientists’ subsequent efforts to expose that disinformation, all we need to do is wait for your next comment.
Here’s some great questions a reporter should ask. What were the total number of icu beds 12 months ago? Since then how many icu beds have been add? Depending on the number added, why weren’t more added since we have been told, for months, to prepare for a surge?
Thanks Kym! You rock. Keep up the good work.
Hey kym remember last week when i made that offhand joke about nanobots?
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CJL1ntLgz8y/
Just sayin the truth is out there and there are many different truths out at once.
Lets hope the technocratic elite over play their cards. Remember, no matter how clever their magic is it’s still an illusion and lacks wisdom. Anything driven by greed and a lust for power is by nature delusion. Stop participating. If we didn’t possess immense power the would-be controllers wouldn’t expend so much energy propagandizing us with lies.
While we are in-fighting over trump/biden or mask/no mask the technocrats are actively rolling this shit out.
Globalist Klaus Schwab (world economic forum , great reset cheerleader, co-sponsor of coronavirus pandemic simulation: event 201) made it clear that transhumanism is an integral part of “The Great Reset” when he said that the fourth industrial revolution would “lead to a fusion of our physical, digital and biological identity,” which in his book he clarifies is implantable microchips that can read your thoughts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1SpC3B1KyM
We see Biden’s campaign slogan “build back better” is borrowed directly from the WEF great reset agenda…
Quote:A true recovery from COVID-19 will not be about putting things back together the way they were: we need to ‘build back better’, to ‘reset’, if we are to address the deep systemic vulnerabilities the pandemic has exposed. For businesses, building back better is about much more than corporate social responsibility: it is about truly aligning markets with the natural, social and economic systems on which they depend. It is about building real resilience, driving equitable and sustainable growth, and reinventing capitalism itself.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/07/to-build-back-better-we-must-reinvent-capitalism-heres-how/
I hope your right, Eric , about the overplayed hand. But looking around at my family, friends, and commenters on this forum…….I’m not as optimistic.
There seems to be no comprehension of the bigger picture.
It’s so much easier to comply and conform to group think than it is to question and resist. We are truly living though Orwell’s 1984 where “doublethink” is the norm. 2+2=5
Paranoid delusions and pyschosis.
Get help.
Sounds like he/she has Real Brian. It’s a pretty deep rabbit hole and there are only so many shovels…..
Try eliminating Google apps if you think that. Google has made itself essential in anything that uses computer inventory, collation or data storage from government emergency alerts to small shop accounting. And has done so without any accompanying responsibility to keep it available and useable. You could not likely type on this site with Google proprietary app used by you or this site.
Class Warfare is hard to digest for many who have little Processing power for the nature of big corporations and big government.
Where on earth does Hollywood get ideas for movies like ”kill the messenger”, ‘the insider”, or enemy of the state?
It’s all one big conspiracy theory !
They lied in the warren report, they lied about Vietnam. They just hope you don’t connect the obvious dots.
This comment…the irony…
“Big corporations” have hoodwinked those of us who lack the necessary cognitive ability to see what you—someone who clearly has that intellectual ability—see so clearly!
Yet in the very next sentence you acknowledge the true source of your conspiratorial delusions: mass entertainment. Maybe your alternative reality doesn’t identify Hollywood as a business?
Just throw in the Warren Report to make clear that you are a very, very stable intellectual.
Don’t take this the wrong way (because it’s a serious question): does doubt ever creep into your mind when rehearsing these grand statements that sound absolutely crazy (and not in an original way) to most of society? Have you ever found yourself asking, “Is it everyone else who is the problem or am I the crazy one?”?
When you are around other people who aren’t committed to these conspiracy theories, what kind of a response do you get? Have you ever tried promoting these ideas to an expert of these disciplines that you believe you have complete command of? Like a political scientist or historian of economics? What kind of response have you gotten from published and respected experts in these topics?
I think you hit the nail on the head Erik. It certainly looks like overplaying is certainly happening. And that house of cards….? I think the term “wishful thinking” applies.
How long will people continue to be afraid when an 80 year old citizen(RIP) dies WITH possible(maybe) “covid-related” complications? Not very long is my guess.
“Carnage”……”Dropping like flies”. Yeah.
Maybe a little justifiable fear is what “They” might do when people on the whole quit buying the ploy? What’s next?
This was published in the scientific journal Nature(Nov. 20): “…no evidence that the identified asymptomatic positive cases were infectious,”
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w
The results of this Chinese study are basically the same as that of the U of F researchers and the WHO (back in June).
https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/doctors-around-the-world-issue-dire-warning-do-not-get-the-covid-vaccine/
This video features many doctors worldwide and their brief testimonials regarding vaccine safety and covid-19 in general.
spoiler alert: It’s counter to the narrative being spun by CBS,NBC,CNN,FOX,PHARMA,FAUCI,GATES, ETC.
Health Impact News…hmmm. Never heard of them, so I Researched This….and found this.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/health-impact-news/
“Overall, we rate Health Impact News a Quackery level pseudoscience website for the promotion of anti-vaccination propaganda as well as chemtrails, geoengineering, and false information regarding GMOs. (D. Van Zandt 8/10/2016) Updated (4/10/2019)”
I had a hunch.
OK then! Quackery!
The earth is flat too, right?
Admittedly, I didn’t do much research. Nor did you. You are just repeating falsehoods. Lies. They’re all the rage.
Do you shout fire in the theater, too? (I know, theaters are empty here, largely because of people such as you, exercising their First Amendment right without first exercising their brain, and applying some critical thinking and utilizing discernment. Theaters are open in countries that have responsible leaders AND citizens. Here? Not so much.)
I seldom write rebuttals to falsehoods. It’s sort of like pissing in the wind. But I think this disease is real, studies are rigorous, and vaccines are effective.
Great discussion, Thank you.
NPR a few days ago, maybe a week…an interview with some government medical head of heading the headway for vaccination said they were tired of constantly being surrounded by Licensed Medical Professionals talking shit about vaccines all the time. His language wasn’t much more eloquent than that. He said multiple times in multiple ways that licensed professional healthcare workers who speak out against vaccines are a problem.
Think about that for a minute. An offhand remark that reveals what most of us already know: there is no affirmative consensus about vaccine safety at all, and the heads of our own government medicine refuse to acknowledge that publicly.
Anybody can look up that interview, I was listening offhand while working, don’t remember the exact time or date.