Selling Humboldt Starts at Home, Tourism Leaders Say

Humboldt County Economic Development Director Peggy Murphy
As a “big shift” in the way the tourism industry is supported kicks off, Humboldt County’s economic development director has highlighted a grassroots element – the role of residents who talk about the county in person and online.
Peggy Murphy, the county’s director of economic development, described a new five-year plan for advancing the tourism economy in a June 10 online presentation to the Community Economic Resilience Consortium.
The way the county markets and supports tourism has been a shifting and sometimes contentious issue for years, with the county questioning whether it was getting enough bang for the buck in its funding and contracts with tourism organizations.

[Image from Ferndale Parade]
That’s brought the county to the point it’s at now, launching a five-year plan to reorganize the way tourism marketing is funded and governed.
“We have funded seven chambers of commerce and visitor bureaus through different means of providing them funding, but there wasn’t a lot of strategy behind the funding allocations,” said Murphy. “So listening to our partners, the community and the people that we’re funding, we really sought to address the concerns about lack of coordination and the impacts of what is being done in the tourism industry.”

Burls on a Redwood tree on the Avenue of the Giants in Southern Humboldt. [Stock photo by Kym Kemp]
Developed by the JayRay consulting firm, the new plan will be carried out through a contracted Destination Stewardship Organization. A tourism advisory board will be formed to make funding recommendations to the Board of Supervisors.
But as the presentation moved into a discussion mode, tourism marketing was framed in a more down to earth context.
“Word of mouth is really important,” said Gregg Foster of the Redwood Region Economic Development Commission, which hosted the meeting.
And word of mouth is increasingly done online.
“We have a pretty big kind of PR issue with how we sell ourselves before people get here,” Murphy said. “And we’re seeing that, for our area, those Humboldt Reddit subthreads are not doing us any good, guys.”
She advised being “very considerate of what we put out there about our community because with the new way that people are doing their itinerary planning, what we say about ourselves impacts how those itineraries get built.”

Elk at Usal Beach, California, June 2016.
When Foster encouraged support for the new paradigm, Murphy said it can be helped “even if it’s writing a nice thing online about Humboldt County.”
“This community has flaws like every other community,” said Foster, but he added that he’s traveled extensively throughout the Western U.S. and “we’ve got it going on compared with a lot of those other places and I think sometimes we’re our own worst enemy.”
Addressing the rhetorical online grumblers, Foster added, “So knock it off!”
While the conversation touched on online perceptions of Humboldt, most of the presentation focused on how tourism funding and oversight will be reorganized over the next five years. Murphy described a broader context.

Detail of artist Duane Flatmo’s mural “Murray Field Vintage 1930.” [Image courtesy of the Library of Congress.]
“The way we market ourselves online also impacts our ability to do business attraction, recruitment, and employee recruitment,” she said. “And so I do think that especially for this group, we should be thinking about this as one cog in a bigger marketing message for the entire county.”
The economic stakes are high for tourism alone. Murphy said it’s a “major economic driver,” generating about $508 million in annual visitor spending and providing more than 5,800 jobs.

Carson Mansion and the Pink Lady [Photo by David Wilson]
In developing the new plan through surveys and workshops, there was consensus on shifting from “disconnected efforts” to a collaborative regional approach.
Pro-tourism efforts have been done between different groups and agencies “without much strategy behind them,” said Murphy. There’s been limited accountability and it was only focused on marketing, and it caused competing regions.”
Funding for tourism support largely comes from a share of Transient Occupancy Tax (TOT), a fee charged to hotel and lodging customers.
Chamber of commerce groups are concerned about losing funding, as the second year of the new plan will see them competing for it through a competitive process.
The Destination Stewardship Organization will get 45 to 50 percent of the TOT share for “core operations, marketing and stewardship” and the county will get 10 to 15 percent of it for “oversight and administration.”
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Visitors at Trillium Falls near Orick. [Photo courtesy of John Chao via Redwood State Parks]
Money from a Tourism Region Fund, making up 20 to 25 percent of the funding, would go to local groups with the Tourism Advisory Board making recommendations to supervisors for final funding approvals.
Murphy said the goal is to advance a “unified, countywide strategy” with “transparent performance-based funding and clear oversight and reporting.”
She differentiated between the old and new approaches.
“We are using a destination stewardship model in the strategy, not a destination marketing organization model,” she said.

Buck in the ocean at Shelter Cove [Screenshot of a video by Kayla Briggs]
It will involve “aligning our tourism regions so that they are promoting one another, saying the same things and delivering the same message,” she continued. “With that, the strategy includes a newly proposed governance model, with very clear roles — there’s clear accountability built into this and it is stewardship-based, not just about marketing.”
Murphy said the strategy is “based on national best practices” and will unify the community to tell “one cohesive Humboldt story.”

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Marketing by Mandate? A “Tourism Region Fund”? “Destination Stewardship Organization?” Hello? None of that can change the online oikophobia that is Humboldt Co from the BOS to this site. “We” can not even tolerate ourselves much less market ourselves as a unified anything online. And all the centralized committees in the world won’t change that.
Speak for yourself; I like it here and I like most of the people.
Now where did you read in my comment that I don’t like it here? As usual, some people confuse the voices in their heads with what others are saying. It’s called schizophrenia.
What my comment was about is the idea someone thinks they can organize and fund their way into “being very considerate of what we put out there about our community because with the new way that people are doing their itinerary planning, what we say about ourselves impacts how those itineraries get built.” Your response is an example why that is a ludicrous idea. You immediately came down on me for things I never said. Organizing a sanitized public public face for Humboldt Co is like trying to herd cats. It would be very useful- even a nice idea- but it ignores the reality that the cats won’t be herded.
I’m not oikophobic. In fact most of my activity on this site is trying to get people to stop being so hateful to their fellow citizens. The reason that you might think that means I take sides is that frankly it’s a certain specific political demographic that has a large presence here who think being personally hateful is okay if they do it for the cause but are always thinking that it’s the other side that has the problem.
Thanks for the opportunity of pointing this out.
Sounded disparaging to me; I’m glad to be wrong. And I didn’t ‘come down on’ you, I just disagreed with being lumped in with “we”.
Well done, Yabut!
Oikophobia? You made your point just by enunciating that word. You are a well-educated man!
The last thing we need to do is sell Humboldt! Quit throwing away the occupancy tax while you’re at it to groups that get paid to sit and talk and recommend ways to waste money. The people of the world have been coming here for decades to see the coastal redwoods and that’s never going to stop, throwing money at it won’t increase it either. Be glad we’re living in one of the last peaceful remote get aways left in this country. Big marketing needs to leave Humboldt alone or it won’t be a desirable place to be for the people who live here and have been here all along because it is what it is.
So what will the people living here do for income ?
Try INDUSTRY!!!
Great idea. Let’s open a steel mill.
Yes, thank you!!!
Big Marketing really does need to go away.
We’re different up here. Always have been, always will be, always should be.
THATS the beauty (the “thing”) about Humboldt and the Redwoods.
Some choose to live Here, in a different (and sometimes incredibly inconvenient!) kind of way; while others choose to live where there are more comforts and conveniences- and only visit places like Here for a short time.
Keep it simple, creative, humble, different.
People already have visiting this area on their “bucket list” to begin with and location of anything- is everything.
(will someone please turn the Bay Shore Mall into California’s biggest indoor amusement park…… pretty please.. I mean like have you ever been to Branson Missouri?? And low key- I don’t know/don’t care what happened- but someone’s gotta bring back the Social Club in Samoa and make 5 more like em across the county!)
P.S.
I’d personally love to organize tourist-attracting events in the parking lot of the old K-Mart 🙏 🙏 🙏 I have several ideas already organized and ready to show. Let’s Go!
SMH, you’re so right about keeping the big marketing jokers outta here. They’re costing big money and we’re not big enough to afford them. Send em back to their fancy big cities and let us do us. But maybe with a few fresher local voices as well lol
Tourism is, at best, a mixed blessing. While the economic benefits are great for local entrepreneurs and for tax revenues, the increase in prices from increased demand in places with limited capacity for housing and fuel can burden residents. Ask the folks in any tourism-centric town about it.
Tourism’s great for the county as long as we don’t put all our eggs into that one basket; we should have many baskets to put our eggs into. For instance, we have more artists per square foot than anywhere else I’ve ever seen. We have great farming and dairy; we could be a brand. I always thought that Humboldt Creamery wasted a huge opportunity; our butter is so very yellow because it’s high in — something healthy, I forget what. They could have slapped a “premium” label on it and sold it in the Bay Area and L.A. for a premium price. Instead they sold our local milk wholesale out of the area to become ice cream, and not even Humboldt ice cream.
And it’s not just “ooh look at the pretty trees” tourism; outdoor recreation is big. There was an article last week, disguised as an opinion piece, about an outdoor recreation symposium in Eureka; you should check it out.
There’s more, but I have to go.
Humboldt Creamery did that because they were in survival mode after the collapse of the cooperative, the increase attacks of environmentalists during the drought and the lack of interest in the BOS in their contributions to the county economy.
Yup… dope tourism will float the county !
How about what the logging companies are doing?
They’re providing a valuable, renewable resource while employing many locals. Myself included. Would you rather we have ZERO industry and commerce up here? What’s your house made out of? You use toilet paper? The list of forest products goes on.
He orders all his shyte from Bezos and has it shipped to him at great expense to the climate.
Cannabis provided lots of jobs too.
And timber does provide lots of valuable products– which is why nothing in my comment disparaged responsible timber harvesting.
My toilet paper, though, is made from bamboo.
I’m telling you, that stuff is furiously plush.
So you think it is either pot grows or logging? Or that all logging is clear cuts? Or that pot growers merrily farm under the redwood canopy? Might it be that neither is good when done in excess?
Based on the two photos I’ll choose the logging.
It’s called growing trees.
Those look like logging clearcuts.
Hopefully not too pedantic, but that ain’t Humboldt.
It’s far far away. In Trinity County apparently.
Hey- Everybody needs to shut up because I am getting paid to sell out your county!! Well…I am routing your money to out-of-county marketing firms to tell us what we have to sell…and then we can market away all your quiet peaceful nature -so stop complaining!
She’s from Oakland.
I will still visit, no matter.
This is all so out of touch. No offense but Humboldt does not have a good reputation and probably never will. My parent’s and their friends all would never move or visit here (they have enough money to visit elsewhere – think abroad). The one time my parents did come visit it was for one night before leaving to go to Mendocino. They were appalled by the state of Eureka and thought it looked like a slum city.
If Humboldt wants to improve their reputation and attract wealthy folks, we need a brand new BOS, new elected officials, and the dismantling of all the good ol boy’s clubs. Then invest in the actual community and not focus on tourism. A healthy community that has amble job opportunities for residents is far more prosperous and enticing than a community that relies on tourism.
Right? Even a brief visit to the many online reviews and subreddit observations can tell us everything we need to know.
We got 5 Star nature wrapped in 1.5 star ambiance and infrastructure.
It’s bad. The people don’t lie.
IMO our “leadership” are all inept, money-plundering, delusional fools! And unfortunately that has been the case for decades. The waterfront in Eureka where an awesome beach front destination could have been created, instead Eureka thinks yucky lumber yards and people lost in addiction are a good look. 🙄
From reddit : The Ugly:
And don’t get me started on our roads .. 😆
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One hundred percent!!!
A friend came up here from Gualala with her kids in a high school sports tournament. Lots of kids and a half dozen chaperones. She asked me where they could camp. They wanted to camp. Not spend close to $100 per room for that crew- it would be too expensive! Well…there are no campgrounds available near Eureka. Imagine that! We advertise nature but make them stay in expensive hotels?!! They came that year but not again because…the parents down there can’t afford it! Oh yeah- our Chamber of Commerce was also no help for them. Think that’s an obvious problem? Yes- it is!!
Su-Meg State Park is about 40 minutes from Eureka. That’s a fabulous place to stay. Samoa Campground is what? 15 minutes?
Patrick’s Point was reserved out all summer. And yeah 40 minutes is 80 minutes round trip every day for games in Eureka. Samoa is where I’d never send anybody- car thefts, tent thefts, totally sketchy due to meth heads. So yeah circling back to that issue, just being real about it not even negative…Humboldt Redwoods also beautiful but distance from Eureka too far…I was surprised nobody has set up a private campground closer but I’m guessing John Ford would make it be very difficult…very expensive
Theres the KOA off the safety corridor and Clam Beach also. I’d imagine that, in general, local camping spots are pretty well booked up for the summer.
Samoa campground!? Folks, let this show you just how out of touch this whoaman is.
Did they actually visit Eureka or spend a night at a motel on 101?
Eureka is a beautiful city with lots of fun things to do.
Judging Eureka by 101– especially Broadway, is like driving coat to coast on 80 and saying the US has nothing scenic to offer.
That’s so unfounded an idea as to have made me laugh out loud. Hello? That Eureka is ugly, dangerous and poor is the opinion of almost all visitors. Heck it’s the opinion of many residents. They can not all be wrong and you right.
I loved the chaos of Humboldt. A shack next to a mansion. We are not a uniform “shining city on the hill” sort of place. Few gated communities even with the amount of petty crime we have.
But we used to have more respect for ourselves in general which offset the vagaries. Now it’s too much division, judgement and anger to be the quirky but interesting place it was.
All of Eureka is ugly? I’ll agree that the 101 corridor is a sewer (‘tho it doesn’t have to be) but Old Town is very pretty, Sequoia Park and the zoo is attractive, and there are some drop dead gorgeous Victorians, to make San Francisco envious. There are also unexceptional neighborhoods, as well as blighted ones. I’m not saying Eureka doesn’t have warts,but it’s not all of it awful.
An old high school friend who ended up in Lafayette, Louisiana with her Historic Preservation degree told ME about Eureka. Eureka has more Victorians per capita than any other city in our country. More than New Orleans…More than San Francisco. I’ve lived around here 45 years and never knew that! Never saw it advertised or even spoken about let alone treasured or valued….Eureka could be so beautiful…
https://www.visitredwoods.com/listing/victorian-walking-tour-in-eureka/246/
Well said, and thank you for sharing. All honest points. I’d sit on a recruiting team for new officials. Positively no doubt.
Humboldt is beautiful, I left because I didn’t want to waist my life around soulless people. I truly hope people got their asses handed to them with legalization, and it humbled them. Because the last things Humboldtians were is humble. I’ve enjoyed watching things crumble, in another 10 years or so, it might be a wonderful place to live with low homicide and suicide rates, and kind and honest people living there. And the tourists will follow.
Keep in mind, I LOVE weed, but the money in that county led to people being raised to be little sociopathic human garbage. By generation 3, they had raised rich, pos demons. The industry needed to crumble to make room for good people.
Want to make things better for tourism? Try THIS:
Next time someone calls the Humboldt County Sheriff Department to report a vehicle break-in at a trailhead, SEND THE DAMN POLICE!!! Instead of the dispatcher making one excuse after another about why she doesn’t think the police don’t need to respond.
I warn everybody I know to NEVER turn your back on your vehicle anywhere in Humboldt County, because calling the Sheriff to report a crime is like calling the thief’s defense attorney instead of a working police agency.
Or decades of ignoring animal abuse… I bet that will really make people want to visit.
Yes, the police should rush to the scene of any vehicle break in. They’ll be able to immediately determine that…
1. The barn door is open.
2. The horse is gone.
3. Since no one tries to close the left-open barn door on seeing the horse gone, the cows, goats and chickens soon disappear too.
4. Without horse, cows or chickens to produce income, the farmer lays off his hired hand.
5. Without the hired hand, horse, cows or chickens, the farmer can’t pay his property taxes and loses the farm.
If criminals know no will hold them responsible, that is not the end of the story. It’s not that you are wrong about the use of police resources, it is also true that people get used to accepting smaller crimes can get ever more and escalating crime. So some form of action is incumbent on government despite the losses.
No really, what can they do?? There’s a broken into car and a distraught owner. The thieves are usually long gone and usually no witnesses.
I don’t know if the PDs/sheriff have the resources to take the fingerprints of everyone who’s touched the car and then eliminate everyone but the thief; assuming they touched anything but the broken window and the missing items.
At one point it got so bad that the sheriff actually did something! They staked out and arrested a few thieves. Then the courts let them all out and weak plea bargains because they are drug addicts and victims of a hard childhood blah blah blah…so…It’s not only the cops at fault here! We have a very broken system!! And we are allowing the drug addicts to pull us all down…
I live in a small town where everyone (literally) is a former crimonal. It is the safest place I’ve ever lived. Survival is a great teacher.
It has been said: an armed society is a polite society …
Samoa and Manila are right there. But the police won’t do much about the car break-ins. It’s endemic. I won’t go there even with groceries in the car. I would never send a tourist there for a quick beach hit. Sure it’s awesome if you don’t get broken into! But if you do then everything sucks bad….Who wants that?
Humboldt is fighting a losing game. You want to increase tourism and profitability but the main issues effecting our county aren’t being addressed. Homelessness, broken down buildings, no jobs. We are losing all of the shopping we have here and the county is just buying up old buildings. Great they are finally implementing more housing, but there are no jobs to afford housing. You want to create growth by blocking growth and by not addressing main issues at hand. It makes no sense. Yet you want people to come here and make money. Also FYI to every person who is terrified that Humboldt will become a big city it never will but as times change there are real infrastructure and business needs that must be met. The narrow-minded citizens who also block growth are a problem. We need new board of supervisors and people in power who actually have degrees and an economic mindset who aren’t making decisions based on benefit for themselves. So until they fix that shame on you guys for saying people cant have an opinion online about how bad humboldt is when you are doing nothing to address core issues!
It really is about the economy, isn’t it?
Always is …
And so it goes on. I love this place. I chose it more than 20 years ago as the place I want to spend the rest of my life. Of course Gregg Foster is correct to say that Humboldt, like everywhere else (and I’ve been to a LOT of everywhere-elses around the world) has its issues, but life is a trade-off. If you haven’t learned that by now, I’m sad for you.
45+ years ago for me. And I suspect in the years before that I lived in more places than most too. Life is a trade off but there are things that in the end can not be traded off without serious consequences.
Humboldt has traded earning a livelihood for welcoming what doesn’t earn a livelihood. And it can’t keep living that way. It can’t keep itself off what people earned off other places. In the end that becomes government dependency. Which means no local character at all.
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All one has to do is Google Eureka , Ca and wowza 😳It states that Eureka has one of the highest crime rates per capita in the country . Until this county wants to clean up its mess …. No amount of tourism money spent is enough .
Wow! And to think those of False Virtues want to keep enabling the crime.
There is no bottom to the breathtakingly widespread rot in Humboldt County.
There is no limit to the toxicity of the psychological venom that relentlessly seethes inside so many members of the so-called Humboldt County community.
Except for the very privileged few, to live in Humboldt County is to doom oneself to a particularly difficult and miserable existence and a slow painful death simultaneously from without and within.
I’m with Bolinas. Take down the signs, hide the trees and rivers. Save Humboldt for Humboldters. Build our economy within our own borders. Smaller is better.
F the locals. They’re attitudes is a huge fing problem in case you haven’t been following the comment thread , that exact sentiment that you espouse is exactly the attitude that Humboldt is most well known for. The snarky local bs combined with being severely under socialized will positively ensure that yall can save Humboldt for yourselves.
Ya, that works for micro towns next to World Class destinations (Stinson), not so much for places like HumCo and Eka
My family visited for Christmas once. They rented an Airbnb in eureka. Had homeless people KNOCKING AT THE FRONT DOOR to ask for money….. needless to say my family hasn’t been back since. Thanks Humboldt BOS!!! You’re doing a fantastic job!!!!
Oh, lord, folks. Sometimes reading these comments, you’d think Humboldt was nothing but potholes and problems.
But after covering this region day in and day out for decades, I don’t think Humboldt can be summed up by our worst aspects
This is also the place where two young boys knew enough CPR to save their father’s life. It’s the place where artists like Duane Flatmo turn scrap metal into giant octopuses that delight thousands of people. It’s the place where families spend generations growing marijuana on remote hillsides because they love the land and the life they’ve built there even if they never got rich. It’s the place where people in Myers Flat tear up talking about their revitalized fire department and declare, “Myers Flat is where it’s at.”
I’ve lived long enough to know every place has problems. What keeps me fascinated by Humboldt isn’t that I pretend it’s perfect. It’s that people continue to build remarkable, unconventional lives here. People move here to be part of that. They travel here as tourists because of our natural beauty, our Victorian architecture, our apple orchards, our wild blackberries, our coastlines, and the wonderful weirdness that leads to the Kinetic Sculpture race, and the hometown sweetness that is Ferndale on Fourth of July, Fortuna Rodeo, and the colorful crews at the Benbow Summer Arts Fair.
They start small businesses, homestead remote ridges, restore streams, volunteer at schools, fight fires, create art, coach kids, raise families and help neighbors.
That’s the Humboldt I see every day. Not because I’m ignoring the problems ( I am on the local school board and am currently heading up our CERT team), but because our story is real and warm and wacky and while it is important to acknowledge where we need to improve, it is not helpful, not true, and not fun to turn your vision away from all the wild wonderfulness that is our home.
“I think sometimes we’re our own worst enemy.” Addressing the rhetorical online grumblers, Foster added, “So knock it off!”
Cat herding 101.
Seems to me a lot of this unhappiness is self made. Life is what you make of it.
I like you, am content here.
We have the ocean, the rivers, the forests, wildlife. I feel blessed to live in such a beautiful place.
Good for you. I have my own little spot of nature. But I also see that many do not. And I worry about them too.
May you never become seriously ill, require environmentally controlled medications, require rapid medical laboratory tests and results, require specialized medical rehabilitation services, and/or require medevac services.
All those are real issues. But bitterly complaining about the bad while never talking about the good is not a recipe for a good life let alone a great community
“All those are real issues.” That is soft-peddling the truth.
All those are issues much closer to life and death rather than mere “real issues.” And that, is telling the sober truth.
People as a whole tend to talk more about the bad, than they do the good. Common knowledge there. So for someone (Foster) to suggest that tourism might be increased if people quit complaining online, that’s just not something a man should be drawing a salary for saying.
In case it matters, I wasn’t born here but I’ll die here. First laid eyes on Eureka in ’71. Been here 55 years. A lot has changed, but like I said, I’m not going anywhere. This is my home.
It does seem to me that the balance between givers and takers has shifted dramatically towards the takers. That imbalance tends to drag a lot of shit down with it.
keep your rose colored glasses on if you insist, but Myers Flat is most certainly where more trouble than a barrel of monkeys is at, and that is a damn fact.
Look, I listen to the scanner pretty much all day every day. I know where there are trouble spots. But it doesn’t take rose colored glasses to see that a revitalized fire department in Myers Flat is saving lives and just making living there a better deal. Folks love that place and I love talking to folks who care enough to volunteer and donate and just appreciate the damn good stuff in life.
Kym: “Look, I listen to the scanner pretty much all day every day. I know where there are trouble spots.”
Also Kym: recommends Samoa Campground to out of towners looking for affordable camping near Eureka.
To be fair Samoa campground probably looks fantastic – on a map...or if you squint. 😝
The tourism brochures “unified narrative “ version:
Historic peninsula.
Bay views.
Beach access.
Maritime atmosphere.
The less polished lived experience version:
Wind.
More wind.
Sideways wind.
Fog.
Sand
Industrial surroundings.
Occasional social issues.
Or, per Google AI
But Kym has never experienced crime in living here her whole life, so we’re safe, cause crime doesn’t affect “normal” people.
you should google other small city news outlets across the US. same shit everywhere except it seems like most places are getting a Panda Express. we obviously need one.
What’s amusing is responding to a discussion about reputation and narrative by effectively saying, “you guys are so negative.” Ironically, that’s the very subject under debate!
The article isn’t about whether there are good people here or whether Humboldt has positive qualities or some damn good stuff in life. Obviously those things are true.
The discussion is specifically about why Humboldt has the reputation it has, whether online criticism reflects reality, and officials now openly discussing efforts to coordinate a more favorable and “unified” narrative.
It’s much easier to argue against “Humboldt is a hellscape” than it is to grapple with “Humboldt has world-class natural assets but persistent quality-of-life and infrastructure problems that affect residents and visitors alike.”
And the idea that a consultant can create a governance structure to somehow get everyone to start “saying the same things” feels detached from how human beings actually behave. Especially Humboldt human beings! 😆 Unless the plan is some sort of coordinated messaging effort, “one cohesive Humboldt story” and that sounds like branding to me not honest critique.
Humboldt’s reputation is built by lived experience. The bikes that disappear. The smashed vehicle windows at a trailheads. The stolen catalytic converters. The campgrounds or downtown areas that feel run-down or sketchy. Most of that never becomes news, generates scanner traffic, a CAD entry, or a sheriff’s press release. But it still becomes part of the story people tell.
So when tourism officials complain that Reddit is damaging Humboldt’s image, my first thought is, what if the online consensus is simply documenting experiences that never enter the official record?
No offense, but playing defense attorney for Humboldt’s reputation without acknowledging the difference between official narrative reality and lived experience reality has a bit of Pollyanna energy. A crime that goes unreported doesn’t disappear. A negative experience that never makes the news doesn’t cease to exist.
The deeper tension here I think is that a tourism agency wants a coherent story, while a real community produces competing ones that are inevitably raw and unpolished and gasp! Negative.
Nostalgia is a glow, not real warmth. And cherry picking bright spots is not recognizing problems. Humboldt Co is losing population. It is losing population despite the coastline, redwoods, etc.
There is one large animal vet in Arcata where there were three. The ophthalmologist I saw for years closed because he couldn’t find a buyer for the practice when his partner retired. How many people can’t find a family doctor? Or dentist? There are vacant properties all over Eureka. Some roads are in a state of collapse while other get bike lanes. The county is no longer in control of its own destiny. It acts asgrant money is waved under its nose. Not as it sees what is needed.
Ask why.
In the last 48 hours we have had the Duane Flatmo celebration, Friday Night Market, Arcata Farmers’ Market, Oysterfest, and the No Kings rally– yet you only seem to find what is wrong.
It’s baffling that we live ion the same place, yet in two different worlds.
Anyway, I’m going to go take my dog for a walk in the woods.
It’s a beautiful day.
Well said
“Said one ostrich with it’s head buried in the sand, too the other ostrich with it’s head also buried in the sand.”
Respect. Try it.
Are you saying that there Jebs made up those events? Or are you the ostrich refusing so hard to see the good here that you are getting sand in your eyes from looking in every hole for everything bad?
The seeing the “no kings march” as a positive kind of event reflecting a healthy community does puts Jeb’s comment into perspective.
Sorry but somehow closing the highway for a Flatmo celebration, even though his work is eminently worth celebrating, or a farmer’s market doesn’t rise up to the level of importance of losing population, low wages, homelessness, or having to drive 4 hours to get a toothache looked at.
No one says “everything” is bad. You are just using hyperbole to shut down discussion. However there certainly is a stubborn resistance to tempering congenial political activism to address very real practical problems in this county. And belittling objections makes it worse.
Here here. I rode my cake-powered bike to McKinleyville and had a grand time. Bought myself a seeded cookie at Ramone’s as a reward for getting up Fisher Rd. in my second-lowest gear without stopping.
I was also pleased to see that the county Pothole Patrol had been through and patched up the worst parts of Mad River Rd. It made for a much less bumpy ride. 🙂
Yeah, that different world you live in is called a “false sense of security”.
Also, Listing the No Kings protest as a positive event regardless of your political stance is disingenuous or obtuse at best.
The woods is a nice place to hide.. but I’m almost positive you mean the forest.
I wasn’t at any protests. I was busy at graduation BBQs for future job hunters.
I have no problems with protests, or bbq’s… just was pointing out the pettiness of publicly virtue singling ones political leanings in the comment section by happenstance.
I’m not sure I could go so far as to call a pro Trump rally a good event. But I appreciate that people care and show up to support their beliefs.
And even if I were pro Trump, I’d appreciate that we live in a country where public protests against the leader are tolerated. You can call that rose colored glasses. I call it having the sense to see the good around me.
Not sure why your responding to my reply to Jeb, but nobody said anything about a pro Trump rally being good,… and nobody asked you what you would call it. Yet here you are, drawing political lines in the sand and talking out the side of your neck.
I think the dentist thing is old news. I believed it too until I started looking for one, I thought it would be a difficult task but it took me all of 15 minutes to find one who would take me on as a patient,
Excellently well said, Kym, thank you!
“I don’t think Humboldt can be summed up by our worst aspects”
-Kym Kemp-
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Isn’t it by his “worst aspects” that you have “summed up” President Trump…???
So, why is it so wrong for “us” to judge places, in the very same manner, that “we” judge presidents…???
Seems like it would definitely be a double standard to judge them differently, one by their very worst aspects, and the other by their very best aspects…
Selective vision…???
In other words, drink the flavor aid you’re given, be a good Humboldt citizen and stfu. We need those tourism dollars to continue feeding the proverbial flame of bureaucracy.
Or don’t be a negative Nellie all the time. Express some pleasure when something good happens, not just “but the druggies!1!!” It gets old fast.
Amen
Some thing really are negative enough to dominate the conversation. If conversation this is.
For Southern Humboldt, the region could have a unique in the world visitor draw in the Marijuana Museum!
Oh yeah. The industry is mostly gone BUT the history, as well associated with (southern) Humboldt would be a draw. Especially if you add a dispensary and active legal displays of plants growing, drying, being trimmed, etc. Old timers telling stories. Films of CAMP and info on the CLMP lawsuit (that was the FIRST, as I understand it, to get a consent decree against the federal government). On and on! Lot’s to show and tell! Once it gets going you add in a place to take tours of active farms, etc. It could be a HUGE draw!
Among the story told, as a foundation, impart tales of the logging, fishing, cattle businesses that gave way to the ‘back to the land’ inhabitant! Which then quickly dovetailed to growing weed. (Why? Because it was illegal! Hahaha!!).
Much potential here!
To be prosperous humboldt would need million of tourists per year. I don’t think humboldt can open its doors and welcome ANYBODY. There was tourists running around! Trimmers. Everyone called them trimigrants and couldn’t stand them. You guys made your bed , and the county is DAY DREAMING of a tourist trade.
We shouldn’t rely only on tourism, but it could play a larger part in our economy. Meanwhile we should all put our thinking caps on and come up with ways we can help ourselves and make life better for us.
They would roll down from the hills with mad cash. They would spend like drunk sailors. And some people would complain! Funny people Funny place right here…
“For Southern Humboldt, the region could have a unique in the world visitor draw in the Marijuana Museum!”
Undoubtedly and in the current era, this is pecisely what people with disposable income deeply desire and are quite willing to spend their precious time on (including travel).
Newsflash: Old Stuff, like news,music,fashion,weed strains, and especially history is no longer valued by society as a whole.
nostalgia focused on the current demographic with money to burn is big business worldwide.
Don’t forget the mushrooms! Could have a mushroom grow in the back shed and people can pick their own fresh shrooms for their “therapy sessions” provided in the adjoining “healing center” with “guided healing” starting at $1000 a session LOLOL!!! And of course ketamine with sound bathing too for the true healing lolol $$$$$$$ Calling all Fartwood healers and soul therapists and psychics…..Heck old Garberville could become a major healing mecca!!!
Give the Dead and Co. a residency at the old movie theater and make Garberville a mecca for deadheads! even change the name of the town to “Deadheadville”
In the 80s, Rick Thorngate, on his KMUD show, used to promote the idea (tongue in cheek, I think), to change the town name to ‘Gardenville’! Ha.
Trinidad, Ferndale, the Lost Coast, Shelter Cove, Humboldt Redwoods State Parks, and Redwood National Park are all world class destinations.
Eureka has a lot of homeless and empty commercial buildings but the Redwood skywalk is an amazing destination that draws thousands of tourists and Old Town has great Architecture.
Anybody who doesn’t think Humboldt is amazing is looking in all the wrong places.
Oh, it *is* amazing … at the same time, it is mismanaged.
Feel free to migrate somewhere that’s properly managed. The ruggedness and freedom of improperly “managed” Humboldt County are two of its best features.
You must not be very well traveled if you think the skywalk is something to write home about.. and Shelter Cove is most certainly NOT at all a “world class destination”. Old Town, and nearly every where in the county is deteriorating exponentially faster than any revitalization efforts taking place, We went out to centerville today, the beach was trashed with litter, and it keeps getting worse each season, but it was a beautiful day to pick up litter.
Humboldt’s beauty is amazing, but many of the locals are the product of limited socialization due to living in a county with only 130k people, and living in the redwood bubble has limited their exposure to healthy competition, and the results speak for themselves.
Get over yourselves is the first step to Humboldt becoming more welcoming.
So why are you still here? “World class” is subjective, and a matter of opinion, much like art and music; it’s in the eye of the beholder.
“World,Class” is nothing less than a gross exaggeration when describing Shelter Cove.
We’re only here seasonally, but I bet we do and contribute more,
and take less than most locals judging by what I’ve seen.
Crime has been normalized here, lawlessness is touted, but from as far as I can tell most are blind to it cause it’s just “normal”.
Try as you most certainly will to flip that how ever ya want.
Whoaman, I spent as year living in Europe and I have a Bachelors degree from a world class University outside the USA. So I’ve probably spent more time living in foreign countries than you and the vast majority of people. Or not, maybe you’re a real world traveler?
If you don’t think Shelter Cove is an amazing place maybe you havn’t spent much time there? or maybe you’re just not really awake to reality? Every single person I’ve ever met on my travels who’s been to Shelter Cove thinks it’s a spectacular place.
so you’re only here seasonally Whoaman. Are you a retiree or just another Green Rusher here to exploit this county (all the while pretending you’re so much better than everyone else)? I’d be curious to know where you’re from and why you’re here?
For a place that has so many people who take issue when you ask them what they do for a living, or how they earn money, it sure does sound funny when locals try to probe others localness with where you from? How long you been here? and why did you come here?… get over yourselves, shelter cover, and your so called world class weed. Shelter Cove is an amazing place, agreed.
fyi: unless your parents immigrated here as well, and you were also a military service member or dependent, you most likely have not lived in more places around the globe than myself, let alone simply just traveled to more places. It is extremely rare that I encounter people that have been to, and or lived in more places across the world than myself.
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I thought yesterdays article was pretty good. The author touched on how you need to include locals in these kinds of convos. There is a major disconnect between the people in government and economic development and what is actually happening on the ground as the economy declines. The crime is frightening theft is way up, there are whispers of potential manslaughter in accident cases, missing people, trafficking, and racially charged road‑rage incidents. It’s not good.
To simply say “no, don’t talk about it” and then send tourists into the middle of nowhere, where they could be robbed or experience hate crime is irresponsible. People keep comparing us to Colorado, but Colorado didn’t have its entire economy crushed by the same people who are now pushing tourism. And no its not weed anymore, can’t blame the farmers… its Meth driving crime…we’re back to Meth…
I like tourists, and I want them to be safe. But you’re sending them into areas where people are angry and desperate. You have to deal with that reality, not pretend everything is fine. Someone’s going to end up with their outback pushed off a cliff and their going to be pissed. Ffs no one even reports on the crime because it would frighten the tourists. Seems pretty irresponsible to me.
There is definitely crime here. I report on it multiple times a day but the extent of the crime done to me (and I’ve lived here my whole life) is I had some papers taken out of my car once in Eureka. That’s it. For most of the folks I know, crime is not a regular part of their lives and it isn’t likely to be something most tourists will experience.
oh you really do float around on a tiny little cloud made of cotton candy, with your rose colored glasses. You ever think where ya live might have a little something to do with your proximity to criminals/crime? You’re sounding really out of touch with the reality of the paved road neighborhoods that ain’t up a hill, and behind a gate.
You and I clearly have different perspectives on Humboldt. I’d bet we have different perspectives on life.
You’ve said you’re only here seasonally. I was born here. My family had already been in this area for more than a century when I arrived, and I’ve spent much of my 66 years living here and reporting on this community.
So when you tell me I’m out of touch with Humboldt, you’ll forgive me if I don’t find that particularly persuasive.
I also notice you keep twisting what is said. I didn’t recommend Samoa Campground. I said it was a place to stay. I recommended Su-Meg State Park for camping.
More broadly, your comments as this comment name or others over the years seem to arrive at the same conclusion no matter the subject: Humboldt is awful, the people are awful, the leadership is awful, and anyone who points out something good about the place is naive.
I spend my days reporting on crime, crashes, fires, court cases, addiction, and government failures. I’m well aware of the problems and one of them is the desire of folks to pretend that nothing good happens here when they do nothing to make good happen.
I’m also aware of the artists, farmers, teachers, volunteers, firefighters, business owners, and ordinary neighbors who make this place worth caring about. I think those of us who are part of the CERT teams, serve on boards, or sell tickets to fundraisers have a broader, richer perspective of this area than those who come, sneer, and leave.
Respectfully, “Come, sneer, and leave” reads like you have turned critics into caricatures. Once someone becomes a “sneerer,” it’s easier to dismiss the person than address the point.
The phrase:
“those of us who…”
followed by
“those who come, sneer, and leave”
creates an in-group and an out-group.
You’re not describing the community. You’re describing a social boundary.
It becomes
“Here’s Team Community and here’s Team Sneer.”
That’s some mighty loaded framing.
I meAn SuRe…ThIcC credentials deserve respect, but generational longevity, service, and community involvement doesn’t automatically make one person’s observations more valid than another’s. IE: Credentialing ≠ Refuting.
Humboldt’s harshest critics are lifelong AND part time residents who care deeply about this place. Not all criticism comes from contempt. Sometimes it comes from disappointment…
We moved to seasonal living recently, your attempt to second class citizen us, to marginalize us based on our time here is par for the course. All while you go on the typical local Humboldt spew about you, and your family’s history here, you are the fing poster child of the local Humboldt snobbery.We love the land , but simply can not stand most long time locals we’ve encountered who are so anxious to ask us where we’re from only to spend 20 minutes talking about themselves and telling us about how deep their roots run.
When are you going to start putting in as much time, money, and effort directly back to remediating land, and bringing structures into compliance, as the out of county money already has?
cause you locals have a lot fing catching up to do.
I can own trolling you for years because you, and your ilk are high on your own shit , I’ll own what ever I put out . But locals will never humble themselves enough to see that the whole long ass diatribe about their localness, at the same time discounting others for not being local, or measuring the worth of their opinion by the amount of time you’ve been here is the elephant in the room that you will simply flat out refuse to address. You have a massive blindspot when it comes to this issue, and how much it impacts the county economically.
The things you tout as positive are lipstick on a pig.
But I’m sure you’ll just come back with more verbose rebuttals in attempt to skirt owning your myopic insecurity.
“ETIC VS. EMIC”
“Is a multigenerational “inside looking out” perspective of ones county, inherently more accurate than an occasionally “outside looking in” perspective from a seasonal resident?”
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“Neither perspective is inherently more accurate; instead, they offer different kinds of truth.
A multigenerational perspective provides deep context, historical nuance, and cultural memory, while an outside-in view offers objective detachment, comparative insight, and the ability to notice systemic patterns that locals might overlook.
Here is how the two viewpoints
compare:
Multigenerational (Inside-Out) Strengths:
Deep familiarity with local history, generational shifts, unwritten social rules, and the subtle impacts of local policies over decades.
Limitations:
Can be hindered by confirmation bias, emotional attachment, or a resistance to seeing necessary change.
Seasonal Resident (Outside-In) Strengths:
Fresh eyes to identify inefficiencies or shifts in the community, and objective comparisons to other regions.
Limitations:
Often misses the underlying historical context, nuances of local culture, and complex socioeconomic drivers.
In sociology and anthropology, this is often framed as the distinction between the emic (insider) and etic (outsider) perspectives.
➡️ Neither is universally superior; the most accurate understanding of a county usually emerges when both viewpoints are combined. ⬅️
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A greater, more circumspect understanding would be likely be achieved by all participants by diplomatically including and also properly considering perspectives other than just one’s very own…
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Humboldt may not be “nothing but potholes and problems.”…
But…
Humboldt damn sure ain’t nothing but rainbows and unicorns, either…
Lets not kid ourselves…
The real truths lay somewhere in between…
PS.
You definitely “recommended” the Samoa Campground based on it’s proximity to “Eureka”…
“Samoa Campground is what? 15 minutes?”
-Kym Kemp-
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You definitely weren’t ruling it out…
You were singing it’s praises, if for nothing else than merely it’s relatively close vicinity to Eureka…
TRG, the anthropology angle is on point.
We started with Yabut dropping oikophobia into a tourism thread and somehow arrived at emic vs. etic perspectives and the epistemology of local knowledge?!?
This comment section has become a linguistic treasure trove and I am here for it. 🤓
The insider perspective brings context and history. The outsider perspective brings comparison and fresh eyes. Neither is automatically superior!
Ironically, this entire thread may be the strongest argument against the article’s “narrative-management” premise, that Humboldt can be reduced to one “cohesive story.” The comment section itself demonstrates exactly why it can’t! 😆
PS: Also, credit where it’s due for the sneaky Samoa maneuver. Sidestepping the endless “recommendation vs. acknowledgment of existence” debate and focusing instead on the role Samoa was actually playing in the conversation was a clever move. The “you definitely weren’t ruling it out” line was a very clever escape from the Samoa Campground semantic swamp! 😂
After working with the public out here, I feel like I was privy to a lot of people’s personal experiences, and it’s clear that crime happens far more often than I realized. I’m actually grateful for the experience because it taught me a lot about my own personal risk. For some people it’s small things, like having gas siphoned from their vehicles; for others, it’s life‑altering theft or violent crime.
After speaking with a community leader, I learned they started their nonprofit because of violent crime and the need to support victims in this area. We also have vigilantism, which I know your site has applauded in the past, but it’s a dangerous precedent to set.
The people I know who have been affected by crime didn’t do anything wrong they simply live in a remote area. And the racially motivated crimes have nothing to do with anything except the local culture, which absolutely needs to be addressed before you invite the world to visit these places and expect them to be safe. It’s not welcoming.
Pooping in the streets is usually a turn off for most tourists, eh? People wandering the streets at night looking for things to steal? Knifing in Valley West? GMOB darting into traffic on Broadway? Graffit? Empty storefronts? Decaying infrastructure? 10% sales tax? Heaven help them if they need a veterinarian or dentist on their visit.
People wandering into and out of the greenbelt are not taking nature walks. Roads lined with decrepit RVs. They are problems for everyone. KMart was empty for years until the county decided to spend money they didn’t have to buy it. But raising the sales tax? Okay. Empty of stores without the city or county government geting concerned. No one has to be directly involved to feel the decay. Resting is rusting and boy is Humboldt County resting. No amount of spending money on gateway signs covers these issue for locals. No declaration of illegal immigrant right or transgender rights fills the voids left in infrastructure funding, private business hiring loss or few medical resources.
You contribute to the complaints. Endless coverage of the hard times in pot culture. Police actions. Protests. Animal cruelty. Gasp- Trump!!! On and on. The press releases for all sort of negative nellies. It’s your business and your calling.
If people have a negative attitude, that is part of your calling too. Turning around and blaming people for complaining in the space you offer them to do it just because you don’t like them is not so okay. Certainly you have not treated selected societal complainers that way. In fact treated them with respect for their complaints but only if you agree. Being selective about whose complains you respect and whose you don’t is a tricky line to dance. Or should be anyway.
It’s like back when HSU and the City of Arcata colluded to never mention the rapes that were happening. (Hopefully that’s no longer the case?) Didn’t want to worry parents or scare off business. “Sure it’s super safe here! Send your daughters and they can walk around at night by themselves. So safe- Don’t worry!” Totally irresponsible and creepy thing to downplay…
I absolutely abhor reputation based silencing. You see this pattern in families, in small communities, and now across the entire county.. it’s so strange. People are punished or discouraged from telling the truth because it might cause reputational damage, and to some, that is somehow worse than the actual harm being done or the need to help victims and prevent further harm.
People need to develop a backbone. This press statement touches on something that genuinely needs to change in society and definitely in our local governance. It doesn’t feel rooted in community well‑being or safety at all.
Need some nice new second hand salvage shop thrift store tour brochures,
play up the post abatement/ extortion economy
Maybe some of those cool murals can be drawn on plywood and placed over the vacant storefronts. Spruce the place up some! Tourists love love love the murals…
Hey, if they’re selling Humboldt starts at home, can I order a dozen sativa?
Not too late, is it?
And I guess I’ll need that address. TIA!
My friend has them for $5 each, Same clean strains you see at dispensaries for $20… Only chumps (and custies) pay full retail!
JK, I don’t need nuthin’, thank you kindly.
Just having a bit of fun wordplay with the title of the article.
We need places to shop. Went to several stores in eureka to shop for clothing for a function and thought I was shopping at a thrift store. Every store was disorganized and nothing in stock. Back to shopping on-line. Which people yell buy local but it’s getting harder and harder. I know when I go on vacation it always involves shopping.