‘No Permits, No Plants,’ Says Humboldt County Sheriff After Assisting in SoHum Raid Yesterday

marijuana greenhouses

Five greenhouses that were on a property raided by the Department of Fish and Wildlife yesterday. (Note Jewett Rock in the background.) [Photos from the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Instagram]

Almost 9000 marijuana plants were eradicated yesterday when the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Drug Enforcement Unit deputies assisted Department of Fish and Wildlife wardens with serving a search warrant on an unpermitted grow in Southern Humboldt.

“In case you forgot… #nopermitsnoplants,” the Instagram account of the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office stated in the announcement yesterday.  The photos included with this story went along with the post.

Although, the Sheriff’s Department didn’t say where the raid occurred, reports from residents in the area indicate it occurred near Harris, roughly east of Garberville.

“The Marijuana Enforcement Team is back in action,” Sheriff Billy Honsal posted on his Instagram account. “Just a reminder…. no county or state permit…we will be paying you a visit.”

inside of a marijuana greenhouses

The inside of one of the raided greenhouses.

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Yeah, sure
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Yeah, sure
4 years ago

I think the sheriff will be very busy this season, judging by the soil and supplies getting hauled.

Festus Haggins
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Festus Haggins
4 years ago

National Guard still going to help out this season? They could keep a platoon busy just in my neighborhood.

Ashamed of County leadership
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Ashamed of County leadership
4 years ago

The one industry that has caused some prosperity in Humboldt… it becomes legal, so they make it almost impossible to get a permit and then go around destroying the crops that don’t have a permit…. IF the County would get their act together and make it easy and quick to get a permit and then make it not terribly horribly expensive, the entire county’s financial situation would improve in one season. I see insanity going on here. Other places have had success. Wake up, Humboldt County leadership. YOU are the problem now that it is legal. YOU are the ones ruining crops by making almost impossible to get permits. YOU SHOULD be assisting the businesses and helping them in every way to be permitted and prosperous and causing our local economy to improve. (and I am not involved in any way and do not use the stuff, either).

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago

When the supervisors have their and their families fingers in the green pie of course they’re going to shut it off and make it difficult.

Mookie
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Mookie
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

3′

guest
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guest
4 years ago

You can’t wait until legalization put a crunch in your bottom line to get all pro-business. Humboldt Co officials have never been pro business as much as they were the clients of a few important people. And you were warned about the government and the fact that while it might treat illegal activity casually, it will never be careless of its funding.

jerry
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jerry
4 years ago

Send this message message to Estelle and the other supervisors…….

August West
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August West
4 years ago

100%

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
4 years ago

Humboldt hinterlands used to be great for pot growing when it was $5000/lb (inflation-adjusted historical price). Lower prices have exposed the shortcomings of growing pot in areas not suited for intensive agriculture. The marginal aspect of those lands was another reason land was affordable without a high volume of product back in the day. Welcome to the real world of agricultural economics.

TQM
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TQM
4 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

Interesting !!! Love econ!

unbridled philistine
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unbridled philistine
4 years ago

What a beautiful place for a grow! Or just beautiful.. Would be prettier without the green houses tho.

Anon
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Anon
4 years ago

How do you make your land payment then?

The real s*** has already started hitting the fan. People that bought big rural homesteads or their second home / get away up north when the mkt was high 2014- 17 are having a great moment of reckoning. The pre-foreclosure and foreclosure rate is through the roof there are so many places on the Foreclosure market. And in desperate attempts to sell at any price people are slashing six-figure numbers off of the asking ; they are holding overpriced Parcels so their taxes are high from the start, their mortgages are high, the market has plummeted by at least 40% , and it’s getting harder and harder if not impossible to squeeze a buck out, anywhere.

unbridled philistine
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unbridled philistine
4 years ago
Reply to  Anon

Anon I make my land payments by going to work and cashing a check. No I do not feel sorry for people who over extend themselves, Purchasing a parcel they cannot afford without legal means too pay for! Bad judgment prevails..

Sprowl Creek
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Sprowl Creek
4 years ago

I agree. This didn’t come out of the blue. Growing is not easy but too many people got used to easy money. It suck when you have to do the same thing as all of the people you paid for years. It’s part of being legal, get over it. Lack of planning to be legal is the only downfall. Welcome to the real world,

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Sprowl Creek

Actually, SP we create the world WE want. If you let the world bully you to submiton, then I guess your just another lemming.. A lot of these laws are fundamentally flawed. Every action will have a consequences, some of it good and sometimes not so good. But you know, have fun as Gville collapses into a bigger messhall of zombie meth heads, and addicts. Welcome to the real world..

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

The most lemming-like thing around here in recent years was the greenrush that couldn’t foresee the shoreline of legalization.

LostCoastEMP
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LostCoastEMP
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

You just described socialism smallfry. Let the government bully you into submission for “free” government cheese . All freedoms will be taken away and you will just be not only a lemming, but a pheasant at best. Trading your freedoms for free handouts paid for by the very people you hate and loathe is the irony behind the democrat push. Bernie Sanders is pro socialism, and always has been. Wake up people!

(When the system fails you, create your own system)

Anon
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Anon
4 years ago
Reply to  LostCoastEMP

The smug ” It’s part of being legal, get over it…Welcome to the real world,..” and “make my land payments by going to work and cashing a check…,” speaks to a mindset that doesn’t get it.

Popping a seed beats trading your freedom for a paycheck

And besides .
Everybody knows that virtually every single farmer in the permit process is dumping product (plants, trim, bud & concentrates) on the black market; tgey have been forced to, and that’s how they’re making their land payment and meeting all the permitting fees! Do people actually think that magically 1 yr into legalization the farmers in Humboldt all support themselves 100% through legal weed sales ? Please wake up. And give me a break.

The elephant in the room is the bottleneck in the distribution flow. The white Market growers aren’t able to get their stuff to the consumer, and even if they could we are growing multi-fold what can be consumed in California so it’s obviously going somewhere.

All that aside, I wasnt sympathizing or defending anyone upside down now in a huge mortgage with drastically reduced means, I was only pointing out that those declines and foreclusures are a harbinger of what is to become the norm for some time. The rural housing/acreage inventory is exploding while values are plummeting. This is going to take a while to recover. Will there will be some loosening of enforcement on the part of water board and even the county? Who knows?

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Anon

” This is going to take a while to recover.”

~don’t hold your breath on this.

Everything crash
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Everything crash
4 years ago

DEU better get busy then… because everyone is growing with expired state temp licenses!!!

Victor G. Flashman
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Victor G. Flashman
4 years ago

Thanks for the link, Ernesto. Just a reminder, it is also illegal to speed down highway 101, drive under the influence of marijuana, and, we got about 3,000,000 OTHER laws that folks don’t like either…

Before we see a lot of whining in print about this, you will need to get your permits, and most of your legal ducks in a row, before setting up your 9000 plant grow… Also note, you will need to comply with all environmental laws, water and fish/wildlife law, and follow all applicable labor law, pay minimum wage, and, pay your taxes too!

It’s a business, just like you all always wanted! You can’t get $5000/lb, or, probably, even $1500/lb, but, it may be worthwhile, yet, to grow a large amount of “stupidity weed”… It was recently posted on this site that a person should expect a “profit” of $100,000 on a $1,500,000 crop… 7% does not seem like a reasonable return, for this kind of investment, when you consider all the attendant risks. Maybe it beats working a job, I don’t know…

We love you all, pot farmers, but there’s WAY too many of you, and, this fall, when everyone is up to their waists in unsold kick-ass flower, perhaps you will reassess the need for 9000 plant grows…

And don’t worry about these folks pictured here, since they probably have 25 other sets of greenhouses elsewhere.

well . .
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well . .
4 years ago

Ahh no , we wanted it to be like the business of selling tomatoes, or camomile. We didn’t want laws that favored the former megagrowers and captured regulation to drive the vast majority out of the market under threat from a hired military force.

This off-season prices held better than they have for years! People are getting $1600 for deps and $1850 for indoor. Yes the price will be lower this fall but but it looks like it will be better than previous years going back quite awhile. I’d say there are not too many growers, just too many giant growers.

“And don’t worry about these folks pictured here, since they probably have 25 other sets of greenhouses elsewhere.”

As you often do, you remind us that you know essentially nothing on this topic.

Sparklemahn
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Sparklemahn
4 years ago
Reply to  well . .

You’ve got Victor PEGGED!

Sheesh
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4 years ago
Reply to  well . .

This is california….
You should have anticipated a socialist money grab from the whoremongers who make the laws in this state. Were out numbered by mootches and the wealthy. Tax the rich (and buisnesses) and provide services so the mootches will vote for them.

Sprowl Creek
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Sprowl Creek
4 years ago
Reply to  well . .

Are your tomatoes draining the watersheds? Are they running nutrients into the watersheds? Your argument is more illegal grows? Thanks, I think we got this. Time to say goodby to screwing up the environment for your greed. Work, pay your taxes, stop traveling and join the rest of the community. Please point out the illegal tomato grows to the authorities because they are definitely a problem.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Sprowl Creek

Wow. That is a very convoluted point of view Sproweler. A legal grower has just as much impact and opportunity to spoil the water shed as an original farmer. If you want to take up issue with spoiling water sheds, you might want to have a word with your new friendly neighbors, Green Diamond. Oh, but they have “permits” to poision the water shed with hack and squirt cancerous chemicals.. but I guess that makes it “right” in your mind? Have fun with that.
So what’s this really about? Fing over your neighbors for your bottom line? Good luck living next to people after that.. You think you got this huh. Considering Garberville looks like a mess heap of tweeker vile, I would say.. you don’t..

KC
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KC
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

I can only hope growers have to go thru all of the same processes and costs as Green Diamond. In fact, I think you have a great idea. In addition to your permitting process, I think it would be absolutely fair and right for each grow site to have to go thru a cannabis harvest plan like the timber harvest plans, along with the hearing process and mediation plan for traffic, noise, etc. awesome idea!!

Guest
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Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Maybe that’s because 3 acres of trees is not going to be commercially viable, so will not be a likely reason for greedy misuse of the environment, will not use water diverted illegally from creeks or hopefully and there’s damn few blackmarkets for logs where profits are sold to avoid paying taxes. Year after year after year…

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Apples and oranges. Small harvests that gain an exemption from FPRs fall under the purview of County Planning.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  KC

KC… Yet the “laws” have failed to make thier mark.. surprise suprise.. While I have seen some improvements to the timber industries because of laws and public pressure, still clear cuts abound… and old growth is disappearing… Why does the timber industry do this extensively anyways? , If They sustainable harvested tracks, left a varied canopy, left some of the smaller trees, they wouldn’t have to necessarily “replant” with fire prone tree farms. The remaining trees would grow to be merchandise able age sooner. The forest ecosystem would be healthier, the fire danger would be less. I am actually seeing this implemented on some level, but I also see a ton of clearcuts still.. And the herbicide use.. that is outstandingly under-regulated..
I would actually like to see some of the fees and taxes they charge the Timber industry, I seriously doubt they implement $10,000 a DAY for a undersized culvert.. Seriously, I doubt the Timber industry would stand for half the fines and fees they slap small farmers here with.. Is every tree “tracked and traced”? I think not..

Huh?
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Huh?
4 years ago
Reply to  well . .

Too much whining from the over privileged. 9000 plants is always too many and defending the industrial grower makes you their chump.

mike tieson
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mike tieson
4 years ago

Clearing 100gs tax free is not a bad score. Easier than working a real job, having to pay real employees, obtain real permits, and follow real laws and regulations.

You know what was even better, clearing 1.2mil tax free on a 1.6mil crop.

groba dude trustafarian osnt
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groba dude trustafarian osnt
4 years ago
Reply to  mike tieson

Too bad you spent it all on Meth and fancy pickups, another big expensive house… $1.2 million is nice money, but I bet you had to share some, with someone… No matter how much money you have, you will need more.

Greed is what totaled the whole thing. Money for drugs is what makes drugs bad.

Give your pot away, make it free. Then you won’t have to pay income tax.

LostCoastEMP
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LostCoastEMP
4 years ago

Cannibis is not legal. It’s taxed and regulated. You even have to pay a fee to grow 6 plants!

Doggo
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Doggo
4 years ago

I have known Tommy since he was a pup, and a better person you will not find in our county. What the “rules” created by county government has done to him is disgraceful. I am just baffled.

Third generation
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Third generation
4 years ago

This exactly!

Terry L. Clark
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4 years ago

Next they’ll be comin’ for God, because she doesn’t have a stinin’ permit, either!

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago
Reply to  Terry L. Clark

How do u know god identifies as a gender?

LostCoastEMP
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LostCoastEMP
4 years ago
Reply to  This guy

…. because men are stupid.

shak
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shak
4 years ago
Reply to  This guy

That’s a good question.
I, for one, always assumed God was a He, because he made ‘man’ in ‘our’ own image.
Then he took a piece of man and created woman.
Someone mentioned that’s how they do clones. Cloning the DNA. To which they then theorized that woman is man and man is woman and that’s why most people have both the feminine and masculine aspects to their being. It’s natural. But, in order to multiply, we need to develop the aspect that matches our physical being and have the other one take a quieter seat inside our being.
I’m still trying to understand the concept, but somehow, it kind of makes sense when the ‘go forth and multiply’ enters the picture.
All of that to say, I, too, am looking forward to hearing yet another perspective to consider. How many perspectives are there? What’s the basis for them? I find it all quite fascinating really. The scripture verses would be helpful, too.

Farce
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Farce
4 years ago

Okay! So let’s see some raids on the mega-grows that are operating under expired licenses! Expired licenses, selling w/o track-n-trace and still blowing it up while bullshitting their friends and neighbors that they are “legal”. Such a sense of entitlement!! …And all of this after paying fees into a fund created to eradicate their neighbors! Why are they still being protected?!!

J
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J
4 years ago

LOL super sneaky with 5- 100 foot greenhouses!

Shaka
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Shaka
4 years ago

Well there 562 pounds off the market.

Jaekelopterus
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Jaekelopterus
4 years ago
Reply to  Shaka

It’s not to late to replant! With supplemental lighting, it’s NEVER too late to replant!

Third generation
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Third generation
4 years ago
Reply to  Jaekelopterus

Cost is an issue! They drain you for fees and taxes then take whats left.

Jaekelopterus
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Jaekelopterus
4 years ago

Luckily, it’s mid-June.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Shaka

Time to squat properties that have been abated and abandoned.. plant them…what will they do then?? I actually don’t really want to see that.. but.. if that is the path they are taking us all down.. So Be It.. just my 2 cents..

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

????? Seriously ????

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

SmallFry,

~not a bad idea . . .

LostCoastEMP
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LostCoastEMP
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

I love it! Pirate grows! Send the owner to Mexico, and throw out 1,000 full sunners. What do mean Estelle,?I’ve been in Mexico for the last 6 months….

Smallfry
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Smallfry
4 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Yeah Sure..’SHARKS! I never saw THAT coming…’

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
4 years ago

I just can’t help myself …

Excellent public service announcement by Sheriff and published by RHBB.

Are we still called The United States of America? Is the constitution still in control of the excessive use of law enforcement? “A reminder that no permit nor license and we’ll be out to hurt you.” Billy Honsal. When our local sheriff threatens death from his department, in order to aid and abet the local “legal” marijuana cartel, we’re no longer America.

Taxation, punishment, threat of death to the OG. No this isn’t America anymore. It’s uncontrolled prohibition. This is the 64 legacy, support the 64 club members and obliterate all competition.

Sheriff Billy Honsal is in bed with Gov Newsom … at any cost, legalization must succeed. Send in the gun toting authorities to ensure compliance. Yeah that’s very American. If the OG don’t stop growing, kill ’em.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
4 years ago
Reply to  Rod Gass

“Threatens death”??? So much drama, so little time…

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
4 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Is this you Billy Honsal ?

If so, please come back to define your limits of enforcement.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Rod Gass

” . . .define your limits of enforcement.” From The County that refuses to have audited their 2017-2018 Annual Financial Records? Redundant. Maybe Honsal will define commerce, medical marijuana, cannabis, and hemp too.

~hell, i’d like to see that so-called warrant “served” by “wardens” in F&W. That anyone keeps lapping this crap up amazes me. Is it any wonder why T.H.E.Y. want us useless eaters caged or dead?

LostCoastEMP
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LostCoastEMP
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Well, if the weed game doesn’t work anymore we can all just do meth and steal sh!t from people?! That goes unpunished!

hmm
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hmm
4 years ago

I met a couple who wanted to buy land, and have a 600 square foot grow to supplement their income, and provide personal smoke. According to them, they ended up finding out that permits are for grows much larger than that, and you cannot have a new grow unless it is located on prime ag soil. Only parcels with evidence of having broken the law, and had an illegal grow prior to 2016 can get a permit outside of prime ag soil. I was going to sell land to them but there was never an illegal grow on it before, and its not “prime ag soil”.

What an absolutely fucked system!

Spikie
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Spikie
4 years ago
Reply to  hmm

They can still get their 215 script and grow up to 99 plants.

Farce
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Farce
4 years ago
Reply to  Spikie

Spikie- Better check that out again. The “legalization” proposition we passed contained language that made it superior to the medical Prop 215. Any contradictions between the 2 props would be referred to the new state agency created by the new prop and resolved. Guess what? They have resolved that there is now no medical in CA….They said we don’t need it because now we have legalization! Perhaps I am wrong? Please somebody prove me wrong. There is no 99 plant medical exclusion any more- we voted that away…to be “free” and “safe”.

JB
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JB
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

There was never any codified California 99 plant allowance. The completely unofficial 99 plant limit came about merely as insurance against the Federal 5 year mandatory sentence for 100 plants or more. As a nod to practicality, State prosecutors generally went along with that dotted line rather than attempt to individually sort out the validity of prescription volumes.

215 (and 64) merely allow(ed) for the doctor to prescribe whatever amount is medically determined to be appropriate and one must (then and now) be able to justify in court the amount you are growing against the prescription IF forced to do so. There has been no change to this between 215 and 64.

Julia Wood
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4 years ago
Reply to  JB

Correction…you DID mean to say Doctor “recommends” and not Doctor “prescribes”… Because as long as it is illegal Federally NO DOCTOR can legally write a prescription for medical marijuana without risking their professional status as a Doctor.

JB
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JB
4 years ago
Reply to  Julia Wood

Correct. Sloppy wording on my part.

Thanks for the catch

KC
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KC
4 years ago
Reply to  JB

Thank you.

Shaka
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Shaka
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Farce your right no more 99 plants medical is a thing of the past planning department says with prop 64 under 1 acre 150 sq ft. Over 1 acre 250 sq ft. Max

Anon
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Anon
4 years ago
Reply to  Shaka

County technically has no written limits on medical square footage with an amount reasonable to your condition on parcels over 5 acre .

Call them and ask , i did.

They explained is a three-prong needle; the county doesn’t care so much about square footage of your personal, or for that matter your medical . (On parcels over 5 acres) the 150 is up to 1 acre . 250 of to 5..but then u also have to go through the needle of the water board and fish and game. And in my opinion the waterboard you have to watch out for. (One water board goon told me you can’t use the water to water more than 6…per parcel!) ….but now I’m hearing that medical should be covered under domestic use and is exempt ( that was from one of the agencies that works with the water board) well hopefully we’ll get to the bottom of all this .
free the herb!!!

kmud did two reports . Here’s one :

https://soundcloud.com/kmudnews/lawyers-perspective-on-cultivating-recreational-and-medical-cannabis/s-h8wSm

JB
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JB
4 years ago
Reply to  Shaka

That may well be a particular County/Local requirement, post 64 — but it’s not a requirement of 64 itself. The Prop 64 mandated limit is the same as with 215 … based on Doctor’s recommendation with no plant number limit other than that.

My county (Mono) requires registration (trivial) for medical grows (those over 6 plants) and for two years straight now there have been multiple registered and out in the open 99 plant medical grows in the county without a single issue. Neighbors have asked about it at BOS meetings and the County has told them that all it legal with both State and County on this.

Again, the 99 plant number became the ‘defacto’ limit to stay under the Federal 5 year minimum sentence for 100 or more plants. It’s not a state thing.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  JB

“It’s not a State thing.”

~it ain’t a Federal thing either. Congress was delegated the authority to provide 19 enumerated services, and they all deal with International commerce, except one. “To regulate commerce with foreign Nations and among (Not within), the several States, and with the Indian Tribes.” “To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) <<< read that over until it sinks in. . . . and to exercise like Authority over all Places PURCHASED . . .for the erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards and other needful buildings."

Amendment Nine in the Bill of Rights – "The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or diparage others retained by the people."

Tenth Amendment, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively or to the people."

Power remains with the people. We delegate authority to exercise our power.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

If your not hearing what JB is saying, bust out some Q-tips.

JB is right.

99 plants was a threshold for growers to either stay in or out of Federal prosecution minimums when busted.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

You come off as if you’re speaking to newbies or morons or something:

“Facts for most here: make shit up. Jaekel, thanks for reminding me there at least 2 here with a brain commenting”. The Real Brian.

This guy (reply to Real B)
June 4, 2019 11:26 pm
Whoa whoa calm down don’t throw out the baby with the bath water. Yall sit on the internet judging anyone who doesn’t agree with you. Get a life.

Guest (reply to Real B)
June 5, 2019 7:15 am
I shudder to think of the things suppressed and the measures needed to create the suppression should you have your way. It would be a Stalinist world of poor but approved science needing a gulag system to contain the dissidents.

Ullr Rover, (reply to Real B)
June 5, 2019 9:49 am
I’m not interested in defending anyone’s point of view, even mine. I’ll present the facts as I have them. Take it or leave it.

Guedt (reply to Real B)
June 5, 2019 10:14 am
Why would you not have a little empathy and let some things pass? Those who claim sanity for themselves would.

Sid Vicious (reply to Real B)
June 5, 2019 5:56 pm
There are multiple layers of psychological operations going on. If you don’t want to acknowledge the truth, that’s fine. Your belief system is creating toxic feedback loops in yourself.

Guest (reply to Real B)
His frightening remark was not that he gets to call someone a liar (a term he applies so liberally to anyone who has a different opinion) but that he thinks the right thing is to silence them. And even then, the frightening thing is not that he says it, but that Kym, who actually has some power, agrees with him. Authoritarians on any stripe always say things like that. And it should frighten anyone.

The thought police (even after, “Today l asked Kym to be ban me. “ ), come hell or high water, will not change.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Ya. But Jaekel and I catching you in outright plagiarism was too good to pass up.

I thought you would be too Em-bare-assed to keep talking, but, alas, you know no bounds.

The funny part is you’ve been doing the plagiarism gig for how long now?

How many comments?

Your slanging fear and lies everyday, so dont cry about getting bothered for it.

How about you stop lying and posting idiot-tube videos.

Wish people a good day and you wont hear from me ever again.

Deal?

Paul
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Paul
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

I’ll look it up later F, but I think it’s wrong. Plus HPRC told me about a waiver on a doctor’s 215 Rec and if you had it, they could sell you 99 plants. Think there’s something there but have to go to school now…

Fndrbndr
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Fndrbndr
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Go to Ed Densons podcast, kmud may 23 at 7:00. In the archives.

Fndrbndr
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Fndrbndr
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

No medical in CA? Why is the Humboldt county health and human services department still giving out cards?

hmm
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hmm
4 years ago
Reply to  Spikie

I’ve have been told by a deputy friend that the 99 plant thing was never actually law. Idk.

JB
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JB
4 years ago
Reply to  hmm

You are correct. It was not law with 215 nor with 64 (see my comment up above for longer explanation)

County requirements (which can be different than state), I can’t currently speak to.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  JB

“County requirements (which can be different than state), I can’t currently speak to.”

That would be because, The County doesn’t make laws. Is there one crime that anyone in here can think of that The County hasn’t committed?

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
4 years ago
Reply to  hmm

It was a perversion of the old 215 100sq ft/99 plants. People then on their own told themselves, oh , I’ll grow 99 plants outdoors, dropping the sq footage part of it.
Then people got all twisted about the Sheriffs dept busting ” medical ” gardens , and then we had Sheriff Phillip announce on KMUD news that if you had 99 plants you were cool, they wouldn’t bust you. The stupid Sheriffs dept went along with the perversion, people grew 99 plants, thenext year they grew 200 plants, the next year they blew it up as much as they could and the greenrush was in full swing with the Sheriffs dept turning a mostly blind eye.

JB
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JB
4 years ago
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Perhaps your County did, but Prop 215 didn’t mandate any set amount (sq ft. or plant numbers)

// “In the early days of Prop 215, the court declared that patients may possess and cultivate an amount of cannabis that is reasonable for their medical needs. But what does this mean? Well it means something different for every patient that depends on how much they consume, how they consume, and how sick they are. “//

https://fireduplawyer.com/stop-buying-bogus-growers-licenses-from-shady-doctors/

Fndrbndr
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Fndrbndr
4 years ago
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When you get your card at the Humboldt health and human services department you have to give them your doctor’s recommendation. A 99 plant recommendation will not keep the county from giving you a 215 card.
Also why would a doctor put themselves in a situation that doesn’t follow the law of proposition 215.
Also why would an attorney put themselves in a bad position as to give advise pertaining to a 99 plant recommendation.

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Yeah,sure
4 years ago
Reply to  Fndrbndr

It was a Humboldt County Medical ordinance- 100 sq ft with a cap of 99 plants within that 100 sq ft. It was geared towards the indoor that was proliferating at the time.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~prime ag. If the Emerald Triangle isn’t the epitomy of prime soil, i don’t know what is. Oh right, the sadistic programmers, of the many hats they unlawfully switch between, also claim authority (w/out evidence), to define our words. Really? I’m sure you know that included in their word ‘agriculture’, are cattle. Truthfully, the word (a)griculture is a word to leave behind. Commercial, residential, manufacturing and agriculture, exist for the purpose of Taxation –and have become so blurred. You know this. Next question: are property taxes unconstitutional? “The best way out is always through.” -Robert Frost

“When the words lose their meaning, people lose their freedom.” –Confucius.

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

There is very little prime ag soil outside of the fiver bottom farm lands in humboldt

Jaekelopterus
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Jaekelopterus
4 years ago
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Central HumCo has never met a hyperbole he didn’t love.

[edit]

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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Great minds discuss ideas;
Average minds discuss events;
Small minds discuss people.
–Eleanor Roosevelt

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

And humble too!

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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Bunk. Or are you talking about what the lunatic fringe labels as prime?

shak
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shak
4 years ago
Reply to  hmm

Prime ag soil.
Past vs modern.

Past. Dig a hole and bury it. Thousands of natives, settlers, bovine-buffalo-deer-etc, fertilized the land. After months or years of decomposting, the heavy rains would disperse the compost naturally.
Modern: Septic systems catching it all into one giant modernized system to be dispersed of in the modern way. (out to sea?)
Along came the fine a native for fertilizing naturally.
Along came the industrial fertilizer companies. Buy a bag, fine a native for using the bag.
The environmentalist industry is a hoot.

Vote em out
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Vote em out
4 years ago

TIME FOR A NEW SHERIFF!

Sparklemahn
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Sparklemahn
4 years ago
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How bout Huckleberry Hound?

LostCoastEMP
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LostCoastEMP
4 years ago
Reply to  Sparklemahn

Well sparkle. I would vote for Droppy Dog. He DEFINITELY smokes weed!

Yeah, sure
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Yeah, sure
4 years ago
Reply to  Vote em out

The Sheriffs are going to follow County and state ordinances. What does getting rid of this Sheriff accomplish? You actually think that will solve something?

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
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Yes, Mendicino is not issuing raids like this. No other county in the triangle has been as aggressive about enforcing these policies as Humboldt… not a single one..

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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“The Sheriffs are going to follow County and state ordinances.”

God forbid they were to uphold their Oath of Office.

“What does getting rid of this Sheriff accomplish?”

Maybe a Sheriff that reads the Constitutions (Fed. State), with the balls to stand on the land in the Republic, and do what he’s paid for – PROTECT MAN’S PROPERTY.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
4 years ago
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Nice to see you this morning Billy, been awhile huh?

NoLongerHumboldt
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NoLongerHumboldt
4 years ago

Did this grow get an abatement notice aswell? Pretty massive op, this is the kind of grows they should be enforcing and not going after small people with a few plants or low square footage like myself. Under 1000 square foot they should leave you alone or give you a permit for 500-1000 bucks. Rediculous I hope they enjoy the slums that Humboldt county will be when all the small mom and pops leave to other counties and only a few mega grows remain that spend no money here. Big out of state money will buy them up aswell eventually and Humboldt will have nothing to show. Good freakin’ luck.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
4 years ago

Humboldt always was and always will be kinda slummy. This ain’t Marin.

hmm
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hmm
4 years ago

IF the law had a moral intent and not capitalist intent, there would be cheap licenses for outside grows under 1000 square feet. Prime ag soil or not.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago

Personally, I think there needs to be something reasonable in place for 100 to 2500sq ft, in place, because that is the beginning of the smallest license you can get. In some counties you can actually get an indoor license for 500 to 1500sq ft of “indoor”. I don’t think it’s an easy license though. And it’s not because of that county, even if the county is reasonable, the state licensing process is not. The state is hell bent at protecting corporate profits and an illusionary tax base they think they have, and they are lossing revenues because of it. It’s way too easy for the big players to break the rules, and very difficult for the smaller players to even get a hold on a single permit..

sageman
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sageman
4 years ago

meanwhile they are still blowing it up in SoCal…with no abatement notices

Ben Round
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Ben Round
4 years ago
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Years ago, were someone to paint the legalization scenario, and tell me to guess what county/ies would be abating the grows, the last county I would have guessed would be Humboldt. WTF! Is it the Sups or John Ford leading the way on this shit?!!?

Farce
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4 years ago
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John Ford as head of the Planning Department receives his direction from the Board of Supervisors. That’s how it is on paper. However we can’t help but wonder what goes on in these private strategy meetings and discussions behind closed doors. I imagine that the Supervisors are also interacting with representatives from the state, perhaps working out deals with them. The state wants control and knows that Humboldt County is an epicenter of resistance. Governor Gavin Newsom has assured friends and family members who have invested heavily in the new “legal” industry that he will do whatever it takes to insure returns on their investments. From multiple sources I hear he has some “5 Year Plan” to increase the regulated market while decreasing the Original Market. So there are different wheels spinning and we are not privy to how they intersect because it’s done behind closed doors, in private. Sound like corruption much? I see the individual county supervisors as equally corrupt as the state and busy protecting their biggest supporters who they have worked with in guiding permits through the county system. Estelle and Rex especially. Ryan until we threw his ass out….Just my observations and opinion

shak
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shak
4 years ago
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“who have invested heavily in the new “legal” industry that he will do whatever it takes to insure returns on their investments.”
Nutshell. Well said Farce!

Legalize = Big Industry power trippin’.
Decriminalize = Individual rights.

We kind of have both?
No, not really.
No? NO.
Why a No?
Because the Individual Rights (which are Secured by the Constitution) was turned into a “privilege”. The powers that be ‘granted’ the right to grow a specified amount.
Granted? Privilege?
What’s the difference between Granted and Secured?
The constitution does not ‘grant’ us our rights, it secures our rights. Secures our rights from tyrannical political moves against the rights of the people.
If an individual turns their ‘right’ into an industry, they give up their individual right that secured their own individual needs, in favor of a privilege granted by govt to be governed by the govt’s needs.
Govt’s needs?
Insatiable.

Jaekelopterus
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Jaekelopterus
4 years ago
Reply to  shak

[edit] You could have just said “primitivism good, government bad” and taken up a lot less space.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Jaekelopterus

… that’s funny… all day long kind of funny!

Jaekelopterus
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Jaekelopterus
4 years ago
Reply to  shak

This is what primitivism means.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitivism
It has nothing to do with race, and only a fucking racist would think that it does.

Everyone’s ancestors were primitives.

shak
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shak
4 years ago
Reply to  Jaekelopterus

The only problem is, I was discussing the difference between being Autonomous vs Dictatorship. You’re the one who called Autonomous the word ‘Primitivism’, in the insulting way.

(all definitions by Merriam-Webster dictionary)

Definition of autonomous
1a : having the right or power of self-government
an autonomous territory
b : undertaken or carried on without outside control : SELF-CONTAINED
an autonomous school system
2a : existing or capable of existing independently
an autonomous zooid
b : responding, reacting, or developing independently of the whole
an autonomous growth

Definition of primitive (Entry 1 of 2)
: belonging to or characteristic of an early stage of development : CRUDE, RUDIMENTARY
primitive technology
d : of, relating to, or constituting the assumed parent speech of related languages
primitive Germanic
3a : ELEMENTAL, NATURAL
our primitive feelings of vengeance
— John Mackwood
b now sometimes offensive : of, relating to, or produced by a people or culture that is nonindustrial and often nonliterate and tribal

Definition of dictatorship
1 : the office of dictator
2 : autocratic rule, control, or leadership
people suffering under his dictatorship
3a : a form of government in which absolute power is concentrated in a dictator or a small clique
Communism and dictatorship
b : a government organization or group in which absolute power is so concentrated
rising up against a military dictatorship
c : a despotic state
establishing a dictatorship

The video I shared showed 2 Autonomous men freely, without dictators over lording their every move and idea, building their own shelter, successfully and completely manually.
I shared the video to compare with today’s modern laws that constantly need updating and upgrading, but that are forced onto the once proud autonomous because the Dictators considered each new method, as the best practice despite it’s own disadvantages & hazards. Flint Michigan is a disaster. Sadly, the courts tossed out the case against the epa and demanded everyone start over from scratch, while the once proud autonomous citizens are still plagued with toxic water.

You say the once autonomous citizens are “b now sometimes offensive : of, relating to, or produced by a people or culture that is nonindustrial and often nonliterate and tribal” and need to have a Dictator to rule over them. I see putting govt higher than citizens, as racist.
I say the ‘officials-Dictators’ are “b now sometimes offensive : of, relating to, or produced by a people or culture that is nonindustrial and often nonliterate and tribal” and you see putting the autonomous higher than govt as racist.

The only good thing here, is that both beliefs are secured by the constitution and BOR that the people created in order to limit the govts. I don’t agree with your insults and beliefs, but I’ll fight to the end for your right to believe and say those things.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
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Me thinks Jaekel, might be related to The Real Brian. We may never know, but, kym did reference his use of multiple IP addresses. Lots of similar words and , let’s not forget his love for Wikipedia.

It’s incredibly easy to make mistakes on the research. He likes to attack the source of the message, instead of just the message. It’s in the corporate media playbook, so his tactics are questionable, in terms of addressing the issue.

He is the epitome of divide by attacking, and deflection. I think he means well in his own way, it’s just that he has the belief that his research skills are the top of the food chain.

Sounds like it’s starting to work against him.

I tried to point it out, to him, that he’s losing his grip.

Can we help him?

shak
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shak
4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

I bet you’re right! (re, the same person or related in some way, like same funding).

Can we help him?
No. He has to do that for himself.

I’ll admit, at first, I was concerned for him during his huge panic episode and even asked him directly what was terrifying him so bad? (Back when the EBS was being tested for the first time ever despite being *the* only way to communicate during emergencies). His reply? That I should know.
mmmm ok.
His reactions? To twist and turn (gaslight and bootjack) every thing posted that he didn’t ‘approve’ of.
mmmm ok.

I lost interest in concerning self with his fear that he was intent upon pushing onto others.
Before loosing concern, I did a few tiny digs (browser findings) into Prince of Orange, Tavistock, some of the psyops ops, mockingbird, etc, that everybody seems to be uncovering and exposing. Everybody and their uncle are trying to get to the bottom of why and how people are losing ‘it’. The research is easy to run across even when not directly looking for it. (unless using goo, of course, which then raised more questions that the divers untook to answer).

Long story short.
I haven’t a clue, but keep up the good work. At least your responses are fun to read, which is appreciated.

Rex is Corrupt and Must Go
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Rex is Corrupt and Must Go
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Rex is corrupt… Yeah he loves Humboldt, loves it, cause he can manipulate it for his benefit, and get new hubcaps for his truck at the people’s expense. Alex Moore owns him and has captured put local government with money he generated illegally then laundered in the Yellow Rose and Shamus-t- ones restaurants just like the mafia. This is illegal organized crime scenario, as much as anything back east in New York or Chicago, and I’m wondering why there hasn’t been a RICO or corruption charge against him. Rex literally has secret meetings with Ford and Planning all the time about cannabis permits. He sat in planning staff meetings and directed who got permits before they hired Ford. The reason why there is not an Ordinance 3.0 or easier permitting (unless you grease the right wheels) is because Rex is protecting his campaign contributors, and LOCO covers it up pandering to that cartel.

Guess what
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Guess what
4 years ago
Reply to  sageman

SoCal? Shit there blowing it up in mendo with no abatement notices

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Guess what

Exactly!

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
4 years ago
Reply to  sageman

Yeah man, LA county just issued 1000 search warrants last week is all. By the way, Kym, I heard from a reputable friend of mine out 299 that the nat’l guard is raiding around Weaverville right now, and that it wasn’t just public land. Do you know if that is actually happening?

Namaste Athome
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Namaste Athome
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I traveled 299 on Monday and saw a staggering amount of National Guard vehicles with all kinds of equipment. I’m no National Guard Reserve but it looked as if they were preparing for some sort of large scale drill or exercise…. or raid.

Free to be a slave
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Free to be a slave
4 years ago
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Saw that too. Large military cargo type truck caravan. That was a first for me to see on the 299.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Ok, awesome Kym, thank you!

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago

I saw this in LA, they have raided a bunch of grows in Riverside county as well. If they are getting warrants, there at least they are getting warrants. It seems like the Sherriff here has an idea they are not needed any more…??

Farce
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Farce
4 years ago
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If they are getting warrants it means they are stabilizing prices. Maybe even sending prices up. So now everybody is back in full this year and every year…forever. They can never win. Mary Jane will not allow herself to be controlled like that. Every bust makes it so one more guerrilla patch goes back in. I’m guessing their computer models didn’t account for everything! Those profit graphs are getting as fuzzy as Hillary’s election victory…The Original Market is extremely resilient and full of crazy people who will resist – even when there is little or no profit. Because that’s what we have always done…

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

For sure.. they cannot even enforce these laws in the urban areas. There are a huge amount of unpermited deliveries and dispensaries all over So Cal. They keep waiving thier fist saying.. They will get them alll…they never do. In fact, they just multiply.. Actually, I think to combat the “problem”, bring more folks into the Cali Market, (distribution, and dispensary side) and “truely legalize” it. I mean allow more permitted outlets. They are operating illegally anyway, Why not make it easier and affordable them to get permits, and increase distribution? The “permit” people will have a “fit” but maybe they could provide them with a tax break to make it ok? Make the taxes affordable and more widely distributed instead. Just thoughts..

NoLongerHumboldt
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NoLongerHumboldt
4 years ago
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I worked in the unpermitted dispensaries in San Deigo. Years ago, my boss had 15 store fronts and its just a whack a mole game. They hit a few, they close, then he throws a few more up. Shit sometimes they just re open the same store after enough time passed. He made millions and is still doing it to this day. Most of the people down there dont know or care which store front is the actual state regulated. Most just care about cheap prices. Humboldts over they are coming after everyone with abatements don’t matter how small they will get you. I thought I was so small I never would get a notice, small fish big pond. Time to leave this place the original market lives on and the road is bright ahead and they will never end the original market. We found a nicer place in Oregon where we can live in peace and grow our crops and raise animals and homestead. Have fun with the poisoned environment, and corporate grows. We want community where we can share resources and live off the land. The back to the land movement is over in Humboldt and all that is left is competition, greed, poisoned water sheds, and divided communities.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago

No doubt. This CAMP PAIN to fuel the 1% of growers at the cost of civil and human rights, and the economy is unreal. I have spent sometime in So Cal, and your right about the dispensaries. The stuff they have there a lot of time reflects how terrible quality it is. Price seems most important. I have a group of people there that truely appreciate my visit when I can, because even in a sea of compitition, they truely appreciate anything I can bring them.
It’s a true shame and disgrace the MEAN SPIRITED path Dumboldt has chosen to take. That is absolutely ridiculous they abated a scene so small.. I consider them ROBO ABATEMENTS, because they really are just blind letters. And seriously under 1000sq ft, really is medical. Shouldn’t even bat an eye.. Actually Oregon is pretty nice, if I could move there now, personally I would.. Lots of Organic goodness in Oregon these days! No place to go but up! Jackson Well Springs in Ashland is really cool.. Kinda personally have toe in the water in Oregon anyway.. so to speak.. And it’s pretty nice..
In some ways, they are way way ahead of Dumboldt. Lots of luck and blessings your way!

NoLongerHumboldt
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NoLongerHumboldt
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

Thanks I have really enjoyed your comments, aswell as farce’s comments. This really is a sad situation just trying everyday to stay positive. We have been thinking about moving to Oregon forever. This is just the push we needed and we just so happen to find a nice place for rent, heck we will even be able to plant in july and get a run in up there just gonna be alot of work, and then next year it will be business as usual.

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Will-Am-It Damnit
4 years ago

Also in Oregon there are no marijuana felonies, which is nice.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago

TY NLH. I am saddened you and family have had to make a transition, you might have otherwise not because of bad county politics.. TY for speaking out and telling people about your situation so they know small folks are being abated! It is really sad the county has not embraced a just policy, but a policy of Big Fish Eat Little Fish..It will be to their detriment.. I do believe.. But I am glad you found a place and hope it works out well for u! It’s definitely not to late to get something started! Best of luck with everything!

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

I agree, everyone knows the warrants are part of the equation. Its our county and sheriff’s subversion of our Rights and Gestapo like policies that are the problem. If people are expected to grow legally they need to bust people legally first. Starting to seem a lot like George Orwell’s 1984 around here

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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Fraud, deceit and illusion – nothing more, period, end of story.

You and me and us and we are the ones who must change. “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for.”

“Change the way you look at things and the things you look at change. –Wayne Dyer

What if you (and others), looked at the pirates in black robes and saw them as judgie wudgies? Question authority. Fiction can only create more fiction. Call them out!

The ONLY subject there is, is who are they and what do they have in their possession that gives them authority over you, the living breathing man? NADA. T.H.E.Y. know who you aren’t, and they know who you beLIEve you are – a Human Resource defined on paper as a U.S. Citizen 14th Amendment slave. Do you really think John Ford and the rest of the corporate governMental service employees, have a Bond on file in the public records to cover their lie-ability? With no penalties assigned for their wrong decisions and damages – conversation and all communication stops.

The local ____ suckers, pushing Public Private Partnerships KNOW exactly how it plays out – devastation. PPPs are a MAJOR conflict of interest. Not to be offered, let alone threatened and coerced into compliance. There’s nothing new under the sun. This is as old as the hills.

“Live authentically. Why would you continue to compromise something that’s beautiful, to create something that is fake?” –Steve Maraboli

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Because you continue to post fraudulent deceitful delusions, excuse me if I dont take a hint from you.

Yeah, sure
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Yeah, sure
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Exactly. Someone is riding the crazy conspiracy train into oblivion. The extreme conspiracy rabbit hole will eat your brain and turn you into a babbling idiot. Been there, done that, had to come up for air and clear my head. This is not to say I don’t believe underhanded acts don’t exist, but a person can get carried away, look what happened to Alex Jones………

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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Not for children or idiots

Genocide Documents Murder “IS” Legal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQsoAjSHVUQ 3 hrs. ago

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

That, for sure, is by idiots and only for idiots.

I’m not surprised you have watched it, likely repeatedly, and passed it on to us here.

JB
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JB
4 years ago
Reply to  sageman

Nonsense. Abatement continues unabated in SoCal

But one example:
https://idyllwildtowncrier.com/2019/06/12/county-cracks-down-on-illegal-cannabis-operators/

Ben Round
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Ben Round
4 years ago

“No plants”? Sorry HCSO! Each home is allowed 6 PLANTS! They can be massive ones, and as long as the grower abides by some basic rules (fenced, locked, etc.), as I understand it, the county can’t do shit.

Farce
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Farce
4 years ago
Reply to  Ben Round

Sure you are allowed 6 plants. You just can’t supply them with water…unless you have a permit for that water. Even if it is your own water from your own spring. Even if it is 6 personal plants. That’s the new law! Enjoy your “legalization” everybody!!

NoLongerHumboldt
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NoLongerHumboldt
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

6 plants need to be in a 10×10 area cant be spread out nicely hard to grow 6 five pounders in a 10×10 area

Anon
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Anon
4 years ago

Not if your property is over 5 acre

Ben Round
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Ben Round
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

The water issue for 6 plants is interesting. Am unclear about that. This, though, may well be where it pays off to have fought the agencies trying to take ALL the water! According to your situation, you may have water the state can’t tell you what to do with (non-jurisdictional water, like many ponds, and some ‘springs’). Still, good question. I will ask an attorney. (The money spent on legal advice helps the long term gains and property values!).

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Ben Round

~if you learn from a lawyer, you learn deceit.

Maxim of law – Once a fraud, always a fraud. <<<this also applies to their frivolous (O)rdinance. No amending, re-writes or passage of time can change this for the better. House of cards built on sand.

Argumentum ad Temperantiam (Appeal to Middle Ground):
Is an informal fallacy, which asserts that the truth can be found as a compromise between two opposite positions.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

That’s coming from a plagiarist.

Perspective
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Perspective
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

You need to register water no matter what you are growing.

Ben Round
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Ben Round
4 years ago
Reply to  Perspective

Not if it’s non-jurisdictional.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Ben Round

Deuteronomy 1: 2-3

Yeah, sure
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Yeah, sure
4 years ago

If you’d ‘ Ben Round ‘ you would know why a grow like this without permits got busted. Why are some of you in a state of shock over this? Where ya ben?

Ben Round
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Ben Round
4 years ago
Reply to  Yeah, sure

Shocked by the raid, per the article? Not shocked at all. Just making the point, you seem to have missed, that when the HCSO says ‘No permit, no plants’, that is not true. Each household can have 6 plants. (Yes. the 6 plants are for ‘personal use’ and the greenhouse scene is definitely ‘commercial’).

Farce
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Farce
4 years ago

But…But…What about the terroir?! The special terroir that we have here?

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Actually Farce, I think we have terroir.. because, I think that actually Cannabis plants preform differently at different elevations, because of the amount of UVB rays in the light.. it’s akin to coffee farms. The higher the elevation, the better the coffee is known to be. That is why I don’t like the fact they all want everyone to move to the bottoms. Cannabis preforms differntly to different elevations and moisture levels. Low bottoms are actually not the best place for Cannabis. That isn’t where a lot of Cannabis evolved. Maybe sativas, but Indicas came from the Kush mountains. People can fight Mother Nature true.. maybe hemp is better served as a row crop.. but in my mind Cannabis belongs in an environment similar to where evolved.. in the hills… Of course polititions know sooo much about how to farm cannabis..

Willie Caos-mayham
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4 years ago

🕯🌳Its time to rethink the permitting process.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

~thought about it. Phukk it.

ASS-King permission to exercise a right is no way to go thru life.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Lol.. Funny! True..

Guess what
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Guess what
4 years ago

Better get on it, some people are already starting to harvest there first deps

Gusto-G
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Gusto-G
4 years ago

Don’t blame me I didn’t voted against legalization.

Jaekelopterus
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Jaekelopterus
4 years ago
Reply to  Gusto-G

Gee, I’m not sure about this but I think the sheriff’s office might have done raids before legalization, too.

Mogtx
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4 years ago

There is 3 depo green houses across from cuddy back school one of them have a field the size of 2 football field s just for there out door crop . The copters flew over riverside park twice yesterday I wonder if they flew the hugh depo s they better have there papers I’m sure they do .

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~it’s sad, just sad, when private entities (NOT in the Republic), are looked upon, and paid well, as just doing their job. It repeats the implication that, It’s okay for helicopters and GooGoo Earth spying on private property. That’s legal and all is good. If the unconscious have their papers, even more better.

It just makes me wonder why any one of us clings to the possibility of harm, and goes along with it?

FEDERAL CONSTITUTION Amendment Five. Self-Incrimination; Double Jeopardy; Due process. No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. If any city or county wants to regulate, restrict or eliminate ANY private property, or restrict any right, it must PAY for it out of its General Fund. Regulations and restrictions are TAKINGS, and must be compensated. So POST your property No Trespassing to show that it belongs to YOU. Better yet, post a Shoot trespassers. Hang traitors. End problems. sign.

Protection; California Constitution Article 1, section 9 Due Process; Equal Privileges and Immunities: (a) A person may not be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law or denied equal protection of the laws. Due process means that anybody wishing to restrain property or file a protest against property of another, be it land, livestock, etc. must first put up a Bond to indemnify the lawful owner(s) for the takings, THEN go through the process of having the matter decided by a jury. THAT is Due Process.

commenter
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4 years ago

so okay reality cut my balls off and i’m down to 6 plants…
well, let’s just say 9 ’cause ya can’t take the outlaw out of the blab blah blah
so if they happen upon my “crop” would they take the extra 3 and
leave the 6 behind?
oh they probably don’t care about 9 piddling two-pounders anyway…

NoLongerHumboldt
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NoLongerHumboldt
4 years ago
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They are abating people with just a few plants.

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago

Prove that statement.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
4 years ago
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They aren’t. They are going to try to knock down grows like this one, and I’m sure there’s plenty of them.

NoLongerHumboldt
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NoLongerHumboldt
4 years ago
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I got a abatement notice for 700 square feet!!!! And the lawyer I saw said he dealt with cases as little as 10 plants!! I wish I was lying. If it werent true I wouldnt moving.

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Yeah, sure
4 years ago

Could be your watershed situation, closeness to neighbors, etc. I notice some areas have remained abatement free…..

NoLongerHumboldt
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NoLongerHumboldt
4 years ago
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I live in a residential neighbor hood with city water in willow creek they sent out a ton of notices in the area alot of ppl I know got them aswell. We have been growing here for 5 years neighbors have been too. Wasnt complaint driven. We just found a new spot in Oregon and will be putting up a second run there by July 1st luckily. Goodbye Humboldt!!!

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4 years ago
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According to the ordinances, technically they can fine you $10,000.00 a day for 1 plant over 6… personally that is A HUGE reason I am so alarmed! Not sure if they will, but they might.. No oversight, no jury no judge no panel.. it’s a disgrace, it really is.. guilty before innocent… just sayin..

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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SmallFry,

According to ‘Supervision of County Officials’ the BOS may supervise the official conduct of county officers, but the Board may not add to those duties. —A Sheriff cannot have Coroner duties added to Sheriff duties.

BOS can raise local revenue by imposing or increasing a tax, an assessment, or a fee. Each of these local revenue sources has its own constitutional and statutory authority and unique laws governing its use. A county can only impose those taxes, assessments, and fees, which the Legislature or the Constitution allow the county to impose -and which are approved by either a simple or two-thirds majority of local voters per Prop 13 and 62.

A tax is an involuntary charge against an individual or landowner which pays for public service regardless of the taxpayer benefit. An assessment is an involuntary charge on land which pays for public improvements or services which directly benefit the taxpayer. All revenue generated by an assessment must be used for the improvements or services specified. A fee is a voluntary charge on an individual which cannot exceed the reasonable cost of providing the service.

After the California Supreme Court ruled in Guardino (12/95), a BOS may not impose new taxes without a vote of the people. Subject to a vote, a Board may impose utility users tax, a business license tax, and a transient occupancy tax (hotel or bed tax).

I don’t read their nonsense, so i don’t know what the $10,000/day is. Oh, i see, a “fine”. Well, that’s not on their job description. I have no recollection in January of 2016, of a vote to tax crops. Must be because they called it an Ordinance. And the business license tax is called a “permit” hence, no need for the consent of the governed.

The treason is in the implementation of these edicts, without the consent of the governed.

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4 years ago

popo going to be busy as fvck this season. sooooo many stupid people, so little time. smart people, like my crew, pulled up the stales and moved on last year. better shaarpen up the chipppppah blades.

NO PLANTS NO PERMITS!!!

if you get popped blame your own stupidity.

J Crew
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J Crew
4 years ago
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When’s rowing practice , brahstafari?

R-DOG
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4 years ago

It will sell sooner or latter

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
4 years ago
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Um R-DOG no, I’ll give you a great example I knew this guy quite a few years back his trade was Heavy Equipment but he decided to dip his grow toes in the water. He grew lots of weed and a time when it sold for 3 or $4,000 a pound and lined his pockets and bought lots of equipment so he could make other money. His weed was never that fantastic. Then after awhile better product started becoming available more people were involved in it and he couldn’t really get rid of anyting. He was sitting on top of easily 200 lb contacted me and wanted to see if we could spin some bubble hash with it. Mind you this was 2 years post Harvest outdoor product by the time it ran through the bbs in spite of the finest technique it came out brown and like dry sand. There was no oily material left to it entire process wound up in the compost pile. He is passed away now but I will never forget that because at the end if the day schwag is schwag no matter how you package it, process it, or hype it up. So really depends on what it is. Truly, it doesn’t all sell eventually…

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago

Lol.. Tings sold like crazy this year.. Holy Blazes!!!

Willie Caos-mayham
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4 years ago

🕯🌳So much said but no real solutions. Come on people there’s got to be a way.

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago

All the “hippies” and “baby boomrs” and “liberals” did this tonsociety. Iver regulate everything. B.s. the new paradigm has very little weed involved

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Yeah,sure
4 years ago
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Give it a rest, this is beginning to sound like a chatty Kathy doll that you pull the string and it has a repertoire of 4 sentences. Yours all involve whining about liberals. It’s old, we’ve heard it so much that it’s just a joke.

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago
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? Republican too then

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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This guy,

I’m sorry about this comment last week:

https://kymkemp.com/2019/06/04/mendocino-had-tourist-with-confirmed-case-of-measles-please-check-time-and-dates-to-see-if-you-might-have-been-exposed/#comment-820103
I was reading the thread just now and read your response.

I owe you an apology. I have no reason to believe your lying. Unlike only 1 other commentor, I’ll take your word.

Good luck to you.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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“B.s. the new paradigm has very little weed involved”

~i can’t decide if you mean P.S. or B.S?

Cannabis Found in 2500-Year-Old Tomb in China
https://bit.ly/2Zpnp14 June 12, 2019

mr pac man
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mr pac man
4 years ago

Solution? how about that ole reality thing. get legal or get busted.

can’t afford legal? apply at wallmart. i’d love to build a nuclear reactor or an aircraft carrier in mi yard. i don’t have the money for the permits. *play pacman death tune*

anyone want to buy 30 plus acres in so hum? yeaaaaaah, i didn’t think so.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
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Mr. PAC Man, sorry but a few hoops or GH’s nobody would hardly even bat an eye at on the 5 is hardly a Nuc Plant or Aircraft carrier.. That is like comparing an apple to a moneys ass… makes absolutely no sense.. ☺️ “GA-LING” Mario scores more coins and finishes the level.. “THANK YOU MARIO!”

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
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Correction.. Monkey’s ass..TY auto spell..lol

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
4 years ago
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30 acres in SoHum? For how much? 180,000? That’s about all its worth now. Sorry for your loss

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago

Actually, Willie, I think Humboldt needs to put a small farmer cultivation ordinance on the ballot. Small sq ft. Appropriate solutions for water regulations for small farmers. Along with some protections for medical on reasonable levels I mean, the state has regulations.. this is true.. but what is stopping the county voters from drafting its own set of reasonable ordinances and give people a reasonable path forward… just saying..

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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“cultivation ordinance on the ballot. ” – because the first one in January 2016 was balloted? Not on their job description.

~we don’t need no stinkin (O)rdinance.

Paper to paper. Flesh to flesh. But never paper to flesh, or flesh to paper.

Can you drink the word water?

SmallFry
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4 years ago
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I don’t like laws, ordinances, or any of that. Who does? But, Humboldt really needs to bring this Ordinance to better place. Maybe it could even outline how to make the Ordinances more affordable for “legal” growers too. Or something. Can’t Humboldt put something on the Ballot to make this process easier, sensible and more affordable? Like a local “measure” or “File an initiative or referendum“ something? Like the GMO measure? Something like that.. Or some sort of way to end the Abatements. Or bring them to a reasonable state? I think it’s a measure.. right? Put a measure on the ballot for small cultivation, lowering fees for permit requirements.. and such. They just tried to do something simular in Sonoma.. I think, but that was for more conservation measures pertaining to wineries.. consequently, it didn’t pass.. but if they did it, Humboldt could do it.. Why Not?

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~oh Good God, SmallFry, snap out of it, you’re getting on my last nerve, and you’re smarter than that. Your ah-ha moment should kick-in any time now.

Back to basics – words that begin with a vowel followed by two consonants have no agreed-upon-value (between the peasants and the used-to-be-nerds in high school, control freaks). No value, no contract. No contract, no jurisdiction. (O)rdinance, (A)ttorney, (I)ndustry, (A)griculture, (I)nsurance – on and on.

From the get-Go, aside from the underlying demented control of nature idiocy, this was doomed before the ink dried on the paper. Did they know it then? What do you think? It’s not as if history records of past failed regimes aren’t available.

Yes, a Measure is what is put before the consent of the governed to decide on. Why do you think the word Ordinance was used? No votie. F the growers, F the people, F Humboldt. 2-D is so predictable in the Tower of Babel.

T.S. Eliot: “For last year’s words belong to last year’s language And next year’s words await another voice.”

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4 years ago
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Lame! Can’t we have just a little measure on the ballot?? Can’t people amend ordinances thru ballot measures? I get that the county stupervisers can’t just levy taxes with out a vote..
I still think the BOS is FOS!!!!!

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
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Correction.. Measure..not vote..

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~well, we saw what happened when the people’s Initiative was on the ballot for Fair Wage.
Five other cities in California and three other States voted in the affirmative. That same day, the Fair Wage vote in Eureka s u p p o s e d l y didn’t cut the mustard. Nevertheless, a 1/2% resale tax, with no evidence for the claim, sailed thru – COUNTYWIDE. How nuts is that? How believable is that?

No, the peasants can’t amend an Ordinance. And, yes they did levy taxes without a vote. No matter what the Tax is labeled – fee, or fine, or for ‘service’ to check out your property, it’s still a tax.

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4 years ago
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When the battle cry is “Tax those lazy no good for nothing middle class slaves even more! If they have $ for xbox games, they have money for MY needs!”.
What does a forced wage increase do (besides the obvious of bankrupting the bosses and sending everyone to the unemployment line).. it puts everyone into a Higher Tax Bracket so the Tax Man can Tax you More and you end up Taking Home LESS than ever before.

It becomes clear that it was an obvious Trojan Horse to cause even more homelessness and dependence upon govt handouts.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~i’m not a part of the voting herd. I did however collect signatures for the Fair Wage Initiative -because of Occupy Eureka friends. Later, as i researched, i could see that on the overall, it wasn’t a good thing to do for the people. The two things i witnessed tho, was the counting of the signatures prior to a possible June ballot –that produced a lesser number than needed to qualify; because of a lie as to valid signatures. And, again, we’re supposed to swallow that the voters of Eureka Inc., choose to be taxed by an unincorporated County, however, they chose no raise in wages? It just doesn’t add up, faulty foundations.

“It becomes clear that it was an obvious Trojan Horse to cause even more homelessness and dependence upon govt handouts.”

You said it right.

shak
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shak
4 years ago
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Thanks for explaining that, CH, or I would have continued to miss your main point which is extremely valid.

It’s corrupt across the board, in Calif, according to the professional watchers. The watchers are hoping we’ll take heed and help them to stop the corruption.
EIPC (election integrity project calif) : https://www.eip-ca.com/press_releases/EIPCa_Findings_Report_re_Nov_2018_Election_Final_4-22-2019.pdf

article in layman’s terms: https://pjmedia.com/election/get-ready-california-style-elections-are-coming-to-your-state/

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~i don’t think there’s any ‘helping an Election Integrity Project’ to stop the corruption. Sticking to the existing system is unrealistic. Clean the board, wipe it clean, and begin at the beginning, using Parliamentary Rules of Order and Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP).

Elector owns land, records.
Voter, taxpayer, REGISters.

The majority doesn’t tell you right from wrong, your conscience does.

“How can we go forward if we don’t know which way we’re facing”? Lennon.
How can we go forward if we don’t know who we are? …what it takes to be vigilant for Mother Earth? -even in the 11th hour.

Remember, you are not the name. You are not the flesh.

California state National on the land of the Republic. We are all Federalists. We are all republicans. Ten miles square, District of Criminals, 3,000 miles East – Federal juris.

~i did file a demand for recount of Meas. Z in 2014. Just sayin. At least it is of record.

Cmon 2020 elections c'mon justice for the people
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Cmon 2020 elections c'mon justice for the people
4 years ago

Good news on kmud tonight our esteemed representative Estelle announced the opening of the planning Department (code enforcement) and her office across from the shell station in red way. Yyyaaaaayyyyy were so happy and excited thanks fenell and Ford!!!!!!

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

~oh gag me w/a spoon.

I’d like to see Wanted, ____ or Alive posters w/Estelle and Ford’s pictures on them, displayed around Redway and Garberville. Reward – $10,000/each.

Feeding at the trough of the public treasury while engaged in impersonating public servants.

shak
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shak
4 years ago
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With almost 18,000 sealed indictments in California, chances are good that the tyrants have been documented and turned in to the proper authorities. (proper, as in, non corrupt).

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~i’m losing faith in this, shak. I think it’s being stated to appease the masses. “Things will be okay -in the future.” We live in the Now. And, i fail to see remedy in the Now while the skies, birds, forests, rivers, fish, animals, insects and humankind are being desecrated from all directions – seen and unseen.

Of course, i wouldn’t keep posting if i didn’t have faith in my fellow man and the living Source of energy that binds us.

shak
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shak
4 years ago
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I hear you, it can be disheartening at times. In times like that, I like to scroll through page after page of actions taken. https://www.justice.gov/news
People joke that the 18,000 indictments are probably divided up between the main 5-10 tyrants in Cali. That always makes me smile too.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~i have 27 names on the Meas. Z litigation.

Down with gavin
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Down with gavin
4 years ago

How many minutes to the next election!!!!!

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

~depends. How long will it take for enough of us to realize that we are at war here in Humboldt’s backyard? How long will it take to come together, each bringing their part of the plan, that is ‘unique to the mangled situation we now find ourselves in’? How long will it take to let go of the programmed divisive world views? How long will it take to let go of our superficial differences and recognize our Oneness? How long can the love vibration (52.8 hz) be held onto until enough come onboard, vibrating at the same frequency? Thus halting the perception deception.

In war they will kill some of us, we will kill all of them, and it won’t stop once it starts. We can either continue to document our demise, or we can mount a resistance.

Peace is the game changer.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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“..we will kill them all, and it wont stop…”

“Peace is the game changer”

I’m really confused as to what your advocating here. Either a full on slaughter …..or peace? Or both? Or none? Wtf?

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4 years ago
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Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Quote:

You can resolve to live your life with integrity. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Shawnee
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4 years ago

Law makers and enforcers are the fricking problem! Greed….that’s the problem …rediculous county money wasted on eradication of no permitted weed grows,! Sheriff’s you awt to be ashamed of yourselves! Greed corruption and misery that’s Humboldt now!

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago

‘Will be paying a visit’. hmmm.. Mr. Honsal Nottingham runs a mean bluff.. I hope all the paperwork is done for each visit properly.. I am sure some would like to see it.
And by the way.. rover clover.. what plants are being referred too? My daffodils.. does my homestead have too many daffodils to the states liking? My azaleas and rhododendrons.. can I only have 6 of those too? Maybe rutabaga or turnips.. to many to the states liking..? Do all plants need permits? Or…just certain ones…? Just sayin..

Cmon 2020 elections c'mon justice for the people
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Cmon 2020 elections c'mon justice for the people
4 years ago

Was being sarcastic these theiving extortionists are the end of everything good this country stood for at one point.they need to be banished from public pretending and treason for life.they stold our economy and means of survival and now there coming after our homes next.they are not representatives they are shady rip off scum

Yeah, sure
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Yeah, sure
4 years ago

Stold?

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

~true enough, Cmon 2020.

Fighting the @System@ ain’t gonna work, the halls of the Administration building have fraud dripping off the walls. Our rights have not been stolen, we surrendered them by a blinded faith in external authority. We shrugged our vigilant duty in the public realm, lived life in the fast lane, and partied down. Certainly this was to be expected of the largest generation, who were as mushrooms – fed sh!t, kept in the dark, and were shipped off to a foreign land to kill the yellow man -at 18 y.o. Once the inhuman acts of war became apparent, these same brave young men packed it up and came home. 58,148 were killed in Vietnam, 75,000 severely disabled, 23,214 were 100% disabled, 5,283 lost limbs and 1,081 sustained multiple amputations. https://www.uswings.com/about-us-wings/vietnam-war-facts/

Con-spiracy theorist – one who questions known liars.
Truth seeker – one who questions known liars.

It’s the masses cheering on the military industrial complex’s Order Followers, that’s scary.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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If you “sought truth” then, for just 1 example, you wouldn’t have put forward the idea that the Supertanker didn’t fight the Camp Fire.

That information was readily available on any thread, from any search engine, on every day.

You dont “seek truth” and your no “truth seeker”.

Reposting other peoples misinformation just makes you gullible. And at a point, clueless.

Smallfry
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Smallfry
4 years ago
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Good Green Earth TRB.. I know you have more input and value to the converse than constantly downing Central… I do appreciate your fact based approach on different levels.. but come on.. Campfire conversation was yesteryear.. just sayin..

Smallfry
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Smallfry
4 years ago
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Also. Much Respect to the victims of the Campfire.. Not forgotten.. just to be clear on that.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~thanks, Smallfry, even tho it falls on deaf ears of both Real, and the thought police. Kym is all too happy to delete any reprisal of mine to the Real flotsam and jetsam. Hickory, Dickory, Dock.

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4 years ago
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Campfire was last year. But HumCo is still spreading lies from liars regarding it.

Getting busted for plagiarism was 4 days ago.

Then theres everything between.

I’ll keep making HumCo a fool, because I’m not doing it, HumCo is.

Enjoy.

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4 years ago
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The Real Brian
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Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
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https://youtu.be/XZOOA9heAf0

NARCISSIST, SOCIOPATH, OR PSYCHOPATH?: HOW TO RECOGNIZE THE DISTINCTIONS

How about some original content?

shak
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shak
4 years ago
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I don’t think Wiki journeyed back far enough.
A PDF of the DSM II giving categorization of psychiatric disorders from 1968: https://www.madinamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/DSM-II.pdf

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
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https://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/mental-health-aspergers-syndrome

There’s something off about your ingrained neurological hiccups that keep your head eyes fingers unable to free yourself from things that you are unable do anything about.

Go write some news worthy story that you can regurgitate the MSM talking points, and maybe that will ease your pain.

Remember, intelligence and elitism is a tough combination.

We all have our gifts, and responsibilities, so stop wasting your time lowering your own standards by focusing on the 2 times a day someone has to take a dump, as if that’s the entire scope of that human being.

You are sitting in the door way to the philosophical bathroom, pointing out the fact that sometimes poop stinks, yet you can’t seem to stop taking in deep whiffs, and pointing it out to the world.

You must be a great person to live with.

Flush your toilet, spray some air freshener or incense or whatever, just stop sticking your nose up HumCo”s butt..

Do something with your talents.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~it is far easier to burn the heretics than to question the dogma.

shak
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shak
4 years ago
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Priceless!

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
4 years ago
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yep!

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
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[edit] you might actual do some deep research into things that matter to humanity.

I’m sure you could actually dig up some stuff like this

https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-357-language-is-a-weapon/

Or this.
Alan Phillips, JD of VaccineRights.com and PandemicResponseProject.com

Or Glyphosate in our food.

https://gundrymd.com/oat-products-glyphosate/

https://gundrymd.com/deadly-disruptors-plant-paradox/

Focus on what YOU CAN DO, to raise awareness or REAL LIFE ISSUES FOR THE LIVING

INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON
your your pain body.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XZOOA9heAf0

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago

Tottaly 2020 I find these policies disheartening, and it’s very hard to see these changing times and the effects its having on the Humboldt community. Sometimes I just like to smash the state with sarcasm.. and poke fun at the sheriffs department superiority complex and fragile ego.. “They” certainly stole our economy, and now they will try to rob us of our homes. I certainly see that… what a disgrace.

Kim
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Kim
4 years ago

Meanwhile in Santa Barbara County, the mom and pops protection that Newsom promised just got “competition.”
https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-santa-barbara-pot-grows-20190612-htmlstory.html

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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Fucking hoop house morons. They’re going to need to devote 3/4 of that County to landfill needs for that human fuckfest of bad imagination and planning.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
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Says who? WTF do you know about bad planning and imagination, in the central coast?

Have you driven through central Cal years ago when they were putting hoop houses up for strawberries? Central Cal will grow the shit out of weed and hemp. Just stay focused on the camp fire and humco. You seem to have found your niche in the norcal circus.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~yep. The RHBB flag is flying upside down. Go figure.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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Another quack from the pond.

Sid Vicious
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4 years ago
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The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
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IBS?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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I’m awesome.

And consistent.

Just a week ago you scoffed at Wikipedia because it proved you wrong.

Now, you use wikipedia.

Interesting turn of events.

What, did you NOT want to KNOW that HumCo was thieving paragraphs from other writers, dumping them as comments here….and posting them here with no attributation?

Did you NOT care about everything I’ve documented as ludicrous?

Are you biased?

You can keep inferring I have mental disabilities all day. Whatevs.

Do you enjoy disproven dellusions as a hobby?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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Woops.

You didn’t scoff at Wiki last week.

Sorry.

It was a different commentor named “this guy”, I thought I remembered it was you.

https://kymkemp.com/2019/06/04/mendocino-had-tourist-with-confirmed-case-of-measles-please-check-time-and-dates-to-see-if-you-might-have-been-exposed/

Besides that part, my original comment stands.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

It’s called original content and nothing I’ve shared with you should be thrown into the category of illusion, unless you are truly too blind to see. I think you’ve simply proven to be a higher functioning troll. Yet I havent seen anything original. Pull your head out, and get a life. I’ll try to encourage you when you’re actually making a difference.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

No Brian, no one actually cares. Sorry to break it to you bud. Most of us just scroll past your comments now.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

How about all the times you got it wrong? If you could slow your roll , you would have obviously figured it out, yet your pursuit even blinds you.

××××××××

“June 5, 2019 9:27 am

Why does anyone believe that HumCluck is a “her”?

Has anyone met HumCluck?

Since HumCluck lies in every post and has never proven a claim. Why give it the benefit of doubt?

IT likely craves sympathy because IT lies so much.

Thinking IT is a “her” has no merit.

It’s a sympathy trap”

××××××××××

June 5, 2019 10:35 am

“I have proven over and over that HumCo spreads disinformation and misinfornation.

Why are you so adamantly opposed to remembering any of it?

I’ve called 2 people liars. And I’ve proven it.

Sorry you just can’t fathom me being right.”

××××××××

June 5, 2019 10:12 am

“Those are not reliable people.”

×××××÷÷

The Real Brian June 5, 2019 9:48 am

The research is done.

https://amp.businessinsider.com/all-social-apps-russian-trolls-used-spread-disinformation-2018-12

×××××××÷

Kym Kemp June 5, 2019 6:48 pm

“Look. Central Hum Co is not a Russian bot.”

×××××××÷

You are one unstable person. I’m not the only one who has pointed to your assumptions, and errors in judgement, and your comment “research is done” about Russian Bots even got Kym to straighten you out.

If you actually made an effort to not be such an ugly troll, you might have more support. I’d like to see you focus on stuff we can use.

××××××××

The Real Brian June 5, 2019 6:57 pm

Likely not a bot, but definitely spreading the propaganda that Russia infiltrated us with.

×××××××

My perzonal favorite

Guest

“Still better that than those who just condemn, insult, roll their eyes and write as if they know what’s what. You can contradict with facts and better understanding when presented with wrong facts but trolls who just call others stupid, deluded or just plain wrong are impossible. Facts are never an antidote to people who refuse to listen to others and think they are right to do so”

××××××

So in your own words

“That’s my thing: For bad and good.

Unfortunately, everyone is so OK and numb to the extreme bullshit circus, I’m more the problem for calling it out than the problem itself.

So, I say Fuck me!

But I wish you all the best.

Kym, please! Ban my swearing, rule-breaking, rude self!!!

I need your help!”

Xxxxxxxxx

You are completely aware of what you do, but Still can’t help yourself.

Do you think that this isn’t your strong point?

Or is this your happy place.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

What you are leaving out is that as soon as someone confirmed knowing Central is a she, I said “She it is”.

I happily admit to being wrong if I’m shown that’s the case.

That’s one of my peeves about Central. I used to be kind a try to persevere through facts and patience. But Central never said thanks or oops or anything, regarding anything.

I showed HER she was posting videos from a flat earther.

I showed her she posted videos from a near neo nazi.

I showed HER she posted videos from a convicted con artist.

I showed you, thanks to Jaekel, where SHE was plagiarizing from.

I showed Shak that he posted articles from Saaevarda, who was FIRED FROM BREITBART for being too racist.

I showed Shak there was no merit in claiming “the media tints Trump orange”.

What more do you need regarding “original research”?

You want to know something?

I know what research is.

I’m published!

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Hitler, too, was published.
Plenty of Narcissists, Sociopaths, and Psychopaths, are published as well. Intelligence is a double edge sword. The scientific mind that can cure a disease, can often justify the pain and suffering inflicted by unethical human experimentation, for the greater good. Isn’t that what this is all about. Slash and burn for the greater good?

The ego is a formidable beast.

Come down off your pedestal, and get the conversation back on the good foot, and people won’t wonder wtf you got published.

I’ve been around, as many people here have, and the people who matter in history, except for the dictators, and tyrants, and despots, are those who’ve contributed to the greater cause. Even skeptics play a role in the historical discussion. All the great minds I’ve read and listened to, you sound more like someone who may not be appreciated enough for what you think you’ve done.

Asking questions, challenging authority, engaging in an exchange of ideas is a messy business, but I’ve listened to hours of debates and discussions with the best minds and I don’t hear the same level of skill in your retorts. You have every opportunity to make those changes and do yourself and the community a favor. At this point you are no better than what you rail against. Perceived ignorance is different than bringing up very valid questions.

Why has the flat earth debate gained so much attention?

Why are there so many people chasing conspiracy theories?

Why do we allow toxic chemicals to be sprayed on food, that ends up in the ground water?

Fluoride in the water?

Why is fracking so destructive and so profitable?

Why does the military need billions of dollars a day to operate, while we can’t prevent people crossing the border with out medical screening?

Why does growing the government present both problems and solutions to the crisis of poverty in our country?

Why does the destruction of independent business and the ever increasing consolidation of money and power matter to our society?

Is capitalism the solution or the problem to solving the problems for the working class?

What’s the biggest threat we face as a society, a culture, as a community within a growing surveillance state?

Does AI concern you? Why?

Do you understand Operation Mockingbird, and the nature of news and Media bias?

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-24/obama-signs-countering-disinformation-and-propaganda-act-law

Recall that as we reported in early June, “a bill to implement the U.S.’ very own de facto Ministry of Truth had been quietly introduced in Congress.

People know governments lie, and have been responsible for the most deaths in history. (Democide)

Questioning those who claim to have the truth is simply what some journalists live for.

Others, see the Julian Assange’s, the Seth Rich’s, and any other whistle blowers prosecuted for speaking out, as an example and as a powerful reminder what happens when you expose corruption at the highest levels.

Why don’t you use your skills to speak real truth to power?
We need the attention focused on real power, not trolling the Internet chat rooms with a jack boot thug like zeal for power and control.

Are you attempting to run your very own defacto “ministry of truth” right here on RHBB?

You’ve been called out on your minor league defenses, of establishment propaganda and for attacking those who seek merely to keep the pursuit of truth an honorable past time.

Raise your own bar.

What are the issues that are often overlooked or underreported that matter?

Why does it matter?

Think about it…

Thank you for your time.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

~did you see about the latest whistle blower?

Project Veritas Features – Pinterest Insider Speaks Out: “The tech companies can’t fight us all”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=448&v=yuX87JFzLFc June 13, 2019

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

Seth Rich.

Say no more.

You dont know research.

You know FOX and Alex Jones.

Google this phrase:

“Carol Timmons, 9/11”

My article is the 3rd search result. “Curios case” is in the title. And I hate to say it, but Alex psychosis Jones carried that and others I wrote.

(And that’s not my “published”, those are just articles)

Go on. Fuck the cults.

And if debating facts worked, why does Central not know if the earth is round?

Central asks for what Central gets. At a point, I call a duck a duck, even if it means I get kicked out the pond.

I hate your cults.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Why the fuck you still claiming bulls hit ?

I asked you questions, I don’t know why Seth Rich was murdered, just that a reward was offered by wiki leaks.

Will Binney, NSA, saying they can go in to the data, and make changes without leaving traces. How can the peasants compete with coming surveillance state?

I have real questiona and concerns and you just keep running back to hum co.

This is about you. [edit]

You arent winning anything here by going back to flat earth…that’s a dead end bro. Stop it. Try a little compassion and lead with some empathy. We are all fighting the good fight the best we know how.

What helps is a good nudge here or there, politeness too.

I guess you just piss me off for being an asshole to some people who don’t deserve it. Ok. Maybe they make mistakes on their quest for truth, so why don’t you post some encouragement, since you the bad ass researcher with published credentials.

You make it sound like you magically appeared to bestow you narrow focus of knowledge to the po dunk people’s in need of direction.

Have some heart, lead by example. I know some incredibly bright individuals who don’t know how to teach.
The old saying that being a Nobel Laureate doesn’t guarantee a good marriage.

There’s some serious topics I asked you about. …I’m not a huge fan of fox, or Alex, but there are plenty of people who have been on his show that I appreciate hearing from.

I sincerely hope that you find something else, like the things I asked you about to talk about. Not interested in flat earth, but dead journalists, and Julian carried out with Gore Vidal’s book, and persecuted for exposinformation .

False flags, growing military budgets, while our schools struggle, or vets commit suicide, people living on the street, and you keep dragging that dead carcass back into room.

[edit]

9/11 engineer’s for truth

Christopher Bollyn

What about the Fema videographer who went to Argentina.

Lots of people dying out there.

Looks like you’ve been a grumpy Brian for awhile.

Great work on the blog.

That’s why I know you can /should/ do better.

I don’t like being triggered by people with attitudes, you obviously have contributed to a getting good information out, so good on ya.

Just realize that you can’t possibly expect to go that deep on all these topics. 9/11 has put a few people on meds, some against their will.

Just try to be less Grumpy, Brian.

I hate egos, regardless of education or service or wealth.

Focus on “your” investigative work…not so much calling people out. This shit is getting old.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

Chis Bollyn is a jew hating idiot.

Seth Rich was not a whistleblower killed by the Clintons.

Theres your answers.

*PS that’s not my blog. I ran 3 specific websites 10 years ago. Each with a different focus.
I took them down. What you see is others that syndicated some of my articles.

I saw 10 years ago that people were willfully believing dumber things in the name of “asking questions” or “seeking truth”.

I won’t have a part of it.

So when I read HumCos bullshit during local fires, I call it out. Not because she’s asking questions.

Because she’s ignoring answers and still posting bullshit.

I say I’m right, and I’m grumpy about it.

Leave me be

*** AND ain’t it a bitch? The double standard.

I’m calling Central a idiot.

Central calls me and everyone slave or peasant or some idiom of powerless.

Central doesn’t know the earth is round.

Who’s right in their name calling?

I am.

You not calling out the other is the double standard, and it makes me more Grumpy!

….must curse….trying not to…..[self edit]….failed.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

I thought David Irving was the Jew Hater.

The lanky bearded guy who protested solo outside the Grove?
…Still In Santa Rosa?

I know how deep 911 probably took you down.

After reading all your articles, it’s depressing that it didn’t change anything. No wonder you are grumpy. Most likely bitter.

Mike Gravel punkin the kids out of lunch money.

You have my sympathy.

You probably grew plenty in weaverville, that backyard is small in SR…

Just stop being such a bitch about things you can’t verify, even if she can’t either.

It’s a mad world,eh.

I’m flushing your ego down the toilet.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/28/us/28land.html

Busted.

You followed the breadcrumbs back to the house.

Still lanky.

Cut the beard and bought a Stetson.

Trinity now.

No Sonoma ever again.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

Further, you epitomize why I wont write regarding 9/11.

The fact that Chris Bollyn is the name you drop is gross to me.

I wont be a part of the loon squad that cant research for a dime but thinks repeating debunked questions has merit when defended by words like “truth seeker”.

It’s a gross game your playing.

Yuck.

My hands are clean.

I sleep well.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Which debunked questions were you referring to?

With all due respect,
I’m not sure you have the credentials to debunk anything I’ve sent you in the form of questions.

Have you bothered to look at the links I’ve sent?

It’s as if you are guilty of the same behavior when you attack the messenger. Not the message.

Which reference of mine did you debunk?

Why so much attitude, inspector?

Bollyn was the last guy I listened to on 911, years ago Just a coincidence…
Why gross? Interesting term for someone to use.

I did mention Richard Grove, and will Binney.., alas it’s been almost 19 years.

Don’t we have any new lies to vet?

But hey,

It’s just one big lie after another, isn’t it.

You know how big and wide the net truly is.

I’m not playing a game. Just hate seeing you sling your own shit on the walls in here.

You obviously have more skills than that. I knew it from the start. Just don’t be such an elitist. I’ve read your blogs. You got heart, but it all ends up in the toilet with you looking like an ass.

Whatever. We all can be an ass, you just got hung up on a few people who triggered you.

Obviously Fires are your thing? Or is it the Fish and Animals?

You live near Weaverville? I usually hike the alps, this time of year. My old buddy use to live in junction city, near the temple. Used to stealth camp at the landing strip, next to the river.

Government job?

Good place.

I hope you have some peace out there.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

Sid,

Good luck to you and yours.

I’ll still call stupid shit “stupid shit.”

Its not a bad deal.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

I guess. There’s plenty of stupid shit to go around.

Just try to not hold on so tightly to the wheel. … hand starts to cramp up.

Maybe I’ll see ya around.

Cheers

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

https://www.courant.com/hartford-magazine/hc-hm-leonard-pozner-honr-20190224-20190219-4ylgafrxerh5djcqsbhk67ekba-story.html?outputType=amp

It’s important to point out what stupid shit is.

Alex Jones “sought truth” in Sandy Hook too.

But as we know now, he was just saying that. In court with Sandy Hook relatives, Jones offered ZERO evidence for that statement.

What he was forced into saying was he is crazy with “psychosis”.

But its worse than that. That was his legal escape route. In court you need facts. He had none.

All he had was clickbait and sales of Bullshit.

So it’s important to fall for these traps.

Especially if it’s a repeat daily offender.

Shak posted to crisis actors after Parkland Fl; that’s some stupid shit.

Central posted links to Flat Earther videos; that’s some stupid shit.

Central and Shak advocate orbs/lasers starting fires that killed communities, literally; thats some stupid shit.

Central said the Supertanker didnt fight the Campfire, and posts videos to people who say its ALL agenda 21 to “burn out California”; that’s some stupid shit.

I was patient for a while. But the gross absurdity continues, insults to trauma victims and all.

They still post STUPID SHIT, so I am happy to be the percieved ass, and call it what it is.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

Did you listen to the deposition?

Well, did you?

We both know Alex has gotten a little over the top lately….

But, I have to admit the interviewing lawyer sounded like a punk bitch…

And you know what i think of punk bitches….

Love him or hate him, he does have his moments.

Listen to the deposition.

I’m no lawyer but it was a young smart ass punk who didn’t get Alex into anything…

Fun to watch.

You are 100% incorrect.

Of course Alex has his moments.

You are just too angry and blind to understand what counter intelligence is.

Step off the toilet…

I think you are looping..

You need to focus on softer minds…I’m going to order some alex,Jones vitamins. ..
Please hold

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

Alex Jones has no “moments”.

Your way off.

Infowars is a crude business plan of a sociopath.

Not a penny more.

And dont be naive.

Alex Jones and Trump are the same. Shared airtime together.

Talked birther bullshit.

Essentially, without the psychosis led ratings of Jones and his believers; Trump would be nowhere.

So, whether it’s a fire victim, a school shooting father, or the foundation of our Country.

YOU MUST BE SMARTER.

Sid vicious
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Sid vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

I thought facts are what the prosecution has the burden to prove…Alex did just fine.

They won’t stop and he’s going to sell a ton of supplements because some people can’t stand stupid shit from the Left.

You want a war? Brian? The left keeps talking shit, poking the tiger through the cage, just make sure you locked the gate.

.. then you might just get one.

Just keep it local, don’t worry about Alex, he’s cointell. You should know that.

Sid vicious
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Sid vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

I thought facts are what the prosecution has the burden to prove…Alex did just fine.

They won’t stop and he’s going to sell a ton of supplements because some people can’t stand stupid shit from the Left.

You want a war? Brian? The left keeps talking shit, poking the tiger through the cage, just make sure you locked the gate.

.. then you might just get one.

Just keep it local, don’t worry about Alex, he’s cointell. You should know that.

#####/
“But the gross absurdity continues, insults to trauma victims and all.”
###//

It’s all an insult to our humanity, the psy.op ha’s been running for a long time.

Sid vicious
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Sid vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Can you imagine for one minute if you would…..what if trump was put in the office to create this radical division?

These people Play 5D chess….Way beyond our pay grade.

SId Vicious
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SId Vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Happy Belated Birthday Brian….

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

Sid, Humco, Shak

You’ve all spread the worst of the worst propaganda.

All three of you have spread the Seth Rich propaganda. Sid, you mentioned it above.

Fox News Was Duped by a Seth Rich Conspiracy Pushed by Russian Intelligence

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/fox-news-duped-seth-rich-192907577.html

Russia’s foreign intelligence service, known as the SVR, first circulated a phony “bulletin”—disguised to read as a real intelligence report—about the alleged murder of the former DNC staffer on July 13, 2016, according to the U.S. federal prosecutor who was in charge of the Rich case.

That was just three days after Rich, 27, was killed in what police believed was a botched robbery while walking home to his group house in the Bloomingdale neighborhood of Washington, D.C., about 30 blocks north of the Capitol.

At the same time, online trolls working in St. Petersburg, Russia, for the Internet Research Agency (IRA)—the same shadowy outfit that conducted the Russian social media operation during the 2016 election—aggressively boosted the conspiracy theories.

IRA-created fake accounts, masquerading as those of American citizens or political groups, tweeted and retweeted more than 2,000 times about Rich, helping to keep the bogus claims about his death in the social media bloodstream, according to an analysis of a database of Russia troll accounts by Yahoo News.

Good job. I’m going to have to point out that I told you guys you were spreading Russian propaganda, on many occasions and threads;

https://kymkemp.com/2019/06/04/mendocino-had-tourist-with-confirmed-case-of-measles-please-check-time-and-dates-to-see-if-you-might-have-been-exposed/#comment-820116

Shak, humco, Sid;

You should all learn what verifiable information is.

Your tools of extremists right now.

Guest, wake up.

https://kymkemp.com/2019/06/04/mendocino-had-tourist-with-confirmed-case-of-measles-please-check-time-and-dates-to-see-if-you-might-have-been-exposed/#comment-820217

Kym,

Agggghhhhhhh!

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

I see you like to attack the messenger, not the message.

A very successful tactic of the corporate government controlled media.

It’s like attacking you, instead of your message.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

~in gratitude, Sid. Always in gratitude.

I don’t understand why The Real Brian’s six months of focused madness is tolerated. Apologies to other commenters and/or readers that Brian’s obsession is turned loose on RHBB – this is not what we’re here for.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

“It’s not who you love, but do you love”

MicheAL Franti

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Kim

Wow.. that is a large amount of “weed”. Will they put into bricks? I find Santa Barbra’s approach interesting. Guess that stuff will be the “box wine of weed” lol.. or maybe it’s an “oil field”? Either way.. if the county isn’t tracking plants, how are they implementing T&T on that level? Let me guess, they are not. All that hoopde And us small times are given soooo much flack for the tiniest of grows.. Sticky Biz indeed.. So much for 1 acre caps.. 145 acres full of weed.. a crop like that that is definitely weed.. it’s probably on par with “ditch weed”
It’s funny though, California and others somehow have gotten it into thier head that “Cannabis” is going to “save the economy” while I beilive there is money in Cannabis, I think it’s conveluted to think that weed is all of a sudden going to rescue a dying “resource” economy… It was good for Humboldt because of the smaller scale it was on, and it saved The Triangle from a fate that probably was iminant for some time.. but while there is money on some levels, I think the state is delusional to think it’s going to be the money maker they think it’s going to be, not on the levels they are going in on it, especially in a limited Cali market.. When it goes Federal, it may be a different picture.. just my thoughts.. but we will see..
Honestly though Hemp.. Hemp could be the agricultural sustainable economy boost the state is wanting, because it can be processed into so many different useful, needed, necessary items, and it can be converted to sustainable fuels. And all that manufacturing equates to possibly descent paying manufacturing jobs, especially if industry can figure out how to mass produce sustainable products from it.. I wonder if those technologies exist still, or just contained in dust books in basements.. So we shall see.. I wish Jack Herer was here to see everything he wrote in his book manifesting! Hemp for Victory!

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

~wish i still had your optimism, Smallfry. I get glimpses, but less and less, and further apart.

” I think the state is delusional to think it’s going to be the money maker they think it’s going to be . .”

Henry Kissinger said, “Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.”

It ain’t about the funny money:

2018 Salaries for State of CA Inc., – 258,029 employees.
“Benefits” column – ‘Not provided’.

Highest paid, reported, is a Christopher J. Allman. His job title is Chief Investment Officer, California State Teachers’ Retirement System – $898,824.00. ($546,571 plus “Other” $352,253).
https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/2018/state-of-california/

Not one. NOT ONE City has posted salaries for 2018. Cons-piracy? Of course not.
College of the Redwoods can’t get it up to post salaries since 2015.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

With so many of the worlds resources used up and practically dead or dying, I do not see the industrial world having many options but to turn to hemp.
Why cut down huge tracks of forest for disposable reasons like paper cups, junk mail, toilet paper.. Hemp is the answer..
Why use petroleum, a limited resource to manufacture plastic.. Hemp is the Answer..
Why not convert to sustainable bio fuels, Hemp is the answer..
Sustainable sources of complete proteins.. Hemp is the answer..

It won’t solve the fundamental greed problems in America, or the parisiting off the people.. But honestly, in a few decades, the human race will have very little options but to turn to hemp..
Blow it up in Santa Barbra county, problem solved.. lol..

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

“Hemp may not save the world, but it’s the only thing that can.”
–Jack Herer, The Emperor Wears No Clothes.

~our communal reality is constructed through our shared culture. And every time we experience a commercial interjection, a fatal lie lodges in our worldview. A clean mental environment is an indispensable ingredient to a thriving civilization. Perhaps we cannot conceive a sane future because our collective imagination has been usurped by advertisers, corporate God worshippers and commercialism. Our culture is infected by a commercial virus, a disease that keeps us distracted by illusions while the world collapses. For decades corporations have consciously and strategically pursued the commercialism of culture.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

https://www.edhat.com/news/la-times-exposes-santa-barbaras-marijuana-boom

Comment section….

At least people here grow out in the hills, in sb, it’s right next to the high school….

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

~those plants in the picture look pretty sad. Nothing like being grown undercover. Fiction, fiction everywhere.

So the other county’ cretins pulled the same bait and switch that the County of Humboldt pulled. An “Ordinance” to grow a crop of tax farmers who produce a government high – sign me up.

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
4 years ago

Hoop houses. Seriously what a joke on a hot day those suckers Bloom and Blossom so many mites bugs another crap. Plants aren’t meant to be grown like that. Plants really perfer to be around a temperature of 79 degrees or so it’s really a premium temp for them. You won’t have all the other issues. Quit feeding them so much crap you wouldn’t have powder mildew as well. PH you waters and mixes EVERY TIME. 5.9-6.2 Never Brew your water or your tees in large batches . And don’t get me started on the QUALITY of the dep flowers. All I’m going to say about that is Mother Nature…SMH

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago

😀🤣😂😀

Dude
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Dude
4 years ago

Man. A few of you need to start a group text on your phones. You make the comments suck. You know who you are. Your mental. Need help. Get a life seriously Do you not realize your freaks. Thanks Kym for the info sorry you have to deal with this crap

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Dude

~i hate it too.

“It is obvious that we can no more explain a passion to a person who has never experienced it than we can explain light to the blind.”–T. S. Eliot

Dude
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Dude
4 years ago

Your 58 comment to this link. Give her a break. Yea you are one of them. You seriously have to comment on everything. You have to realize your a joke. I hope you donate money to her for her services if you do I won’t hate. If you don’t please stop. It’s every story she writes. Us locals scroll through comments to figure out what’s really going on. You make it hard. Please go to another source for your news. Thank you kym

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Dude

Dude,

Thanks. I agree. I would love to not argue nutjob ideas as if they were legitimate.

I’m sorry for gumming up the the threads.

I do donate, and I do apologize to Kym often enough ( I think). Frankly, I’d be happy if she just took me, shak and HumCo out of all your lives.

My prerogative has turned into countering their bullshit, and making sure its known that its bullshit. I understand that this is not a great way to spend time or space.

All I can say is sorry again to you. I’d love to say I could let the bullshit stick without any cleanup.

I’m sympathetic to your position, because I used to be a lot more quiet in commenting.

I just dont suffer idiots well.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Hold your tongue, we’ll hold ours.

Did Kym didn’t ask you to fact check the comment section? If that’s your role, then please do it with class and professionalism, and just post your rebuttals without making it personal.

Most of this thread is filled with opinions , and when you go off as the thought police, especially using foul language against people for sharing what they feel is important, it’s ugly and sick. You aren’t protecting anyone from trauma, my friend, I’m sorry to say.

I just think you are hell bent on a certain mindset.

When You hurl Slurs against Women, I Guess I Take It personsally, just because they Say things That You Don’t Approve of.

It’s possible sometimes they get long winded, but sometimes people just have to agree to disgree.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

Sid,

I have never opened a comment thread to attack Central.

Everytime is a “respond”.

I do not have a thought police behavior or attitude. I disagree completely at times with many comments and or commentors, and dont say a word.

I can go toe to toe on reasonable debate. I’d offer Gun Control arguements with Ullr, or Press debates with Guest.

I offer puns and poetry.

I send Kym photos of events in my area, and try to help a little bit.

I’m just saying. I’m not all bad, bud.

Kym has never asked me to be a fact checker. Let’s be clear. I’ve been wrong a few times anyway.

What do I do that makes me a fool?

And yes, I agree, I’m a fool.

And yes, I agree, I can be an ass.

But I dont come onto every post Kym offers to tell YOU that YOU are a slave because you DONT AGREE with me.

The last thing I do is find a way to slip 9/11 into every comment, finishing with “slaves dont know”.

Infact, only 1 or 2 people are that bold, while simultaneously willfully and dutifully ignorant of the facts I or others continuously offer.

Propaganda.

There is a difference between opinion and propaganda.

Reasonable interactions and debate are encouraged with opinion.

However, propaganda is a different beast with a different agenda.

I think I’m ahead of the curve with this group in seeing it, or I’m the only one who cares enough to counter it, however ridiculous the levels it takes me to.

How can I not be ridiculous when “responding” to Shak posting police “butt rape” Columbine hyperlinks?

You think I’m not doing anything for Trauma victims. I disagree.

When someone repeatedly lies and worsens others traumas, and YOU say nothing…that’s doing nothing for victims.

When did speaking up for the defenseless become unacceptable?

Shak, 2 days ago, spread butt rape rumors about dead kids.

He posted crisis actor links after Parkland.

Maybe those dead kids are going to defend themselves? What? How?

I’ve posted links about the plight of Sandy Hook parents fighting the same shit Shak is posting for their dead little kids.

Sorry, I’m with them. I disagree with you. And I totally disagree with Kym that allowing that shit is defending free speech.

That’s a copout.

Its assault on trauma victims.

And it’s the same with our Califormia wildfires. Ots infuriating. Yes, I have fire trauma. It comes in most who have a fire come thru their property.

Anyhow. You’ll see this comment in a day or two late. I’m in the padded moderation room.

Im all smiles though. And I really liked the hangliding video. Thanks.

Sorry to you also. I dont remember if I called you something. When people jump into my fight with Central&Shak I do start to bite a little wildly. I know.

Central HumCo
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Dude

~ahh, the smell of brimstone in the morning.

Central HumCo
Guest
4 years ago

Kym,

~the very least you could do is when you decide to play God and control speech, is; SAY SO. This slipping in the back door, deleting comments as you see fit, using rules that only apply to some commenters, and not to you, is, for what? What’s your point?

Dude’s rude @ 9:39 pm June 15.

Brian concurs with Dude @ 7:05 am June 16. (unread)

My reply to Dude 8:00ish – deleted.

Brian drags the RHBB flag down yet lower as he resorts to voicing his violent fantasy, as ‘hoping’ to project it onto another commenter. 9:50 am – deleted.

My reply to Brian, “~ah, the smell of brimstone in the morning”. – deleted.

And so, this thread ends with two negative comments – by a Dude, and a Real Brian, and the next three following comments just vanish.

After six months of Brian’s bullying insults (w/your blessing), peaking yesterday, what did you expect, Kym?

~journalists and reporters have shredded any sense of objectivity and fairness.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Central,

Kym isn’t the Court System, and she’s not funded by taxpayers.

You are on her property. She makes the rules on her property. What’s complex about that?

I have no blessings from Kym. I’m furious at Kym for allowing Columbine “butt rape” lies from Shak, but not my witness drawings about….well…I cant say. Im furious! And your lies get to stay too. So enjoy what you got.

If your kicked out one day, or me, your still in America. You can make your own website and slang all your lies with some cure-alls everyday.

Learn some respect.

Learn some humility.

Learn anything one of these days.

Stop lying.

It’s all documented. I cant believe you havnt learned that yet.

But please, pretty pretty please, tell me all your thoughts on Michelle Obama right this very moment.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

You are right, you just can’t help yourself.

I feel sorry for you if your kids turn out to think differently than you do.

If you can’t keep from instagating and taunting people, then maybe it’s best to go away for a while.

You might just be a part of the problem.

Good luck with that, we need more humanity in this world, and I apologize for being a part of lowering the bar in that respect.

I’m better than that too. We all can be. If we work at it.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

Am I a bully?

Or am I using the words of someone else to highlight what they said to point out the ridiculousness of it?

And are they embarrassed by their words now?

Do I call everyone a slave?

NO.

I call 2 people stupid for calling all us slaves.

The 2 calling us all slaves, are the 2 that cant prove 1 thing they post about….

Oh. But it’s like irie vibration-positive polly, kinda happy sappy stuffed lies.

And I’m a big bad wolf for using honest notty language.

Fine call me slave. It shouldn’t be offensive. I mean, it’s not like “slave” has a contemporary meaning that impacts everyone…

Does no one see Centrsl calling you slave everyday?

Why should I be forced to ignore this?

Why should I be polite anymore?

I simply dont agree.

I dont want to bottle up the truth and hope for the best.

That’s not how problems are fixed, ever, in life.

We must address the problems.

How is one of our fellow humans so confused that they dont know the earth is round?

Let’s help her.

Dang, she dont accept help.

She just calls you a slave again.

What to do…

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Have you tried…

meditation,
yoga,
fasting,
Extreme sports, or dangerous activities that require immense focus to stay alive?

There are so many real problems in this world, brother, could you possibly. …

Let it go…?

Encourage them for better footnotes..?.

Jump off a mountain?

Just because you aren’t a slave, does not mean you are free to do and say as you please.

Remember when people called you 911 truthers/ conspiracy whackos,…or worse, acted like your friend and took your money?

How does this rise to the level of trauma, and how much are you honestly contributing to it.

You rail against words that you claim cause trauma, yet you are simply creating more trauma.

Does that not register in your mind?

It’s like environmentalists who preach 90% human extinction to save the planet.

https://reason.com/2006/04/03/to-save-the-planet-kill-90-per/

Don’t Create more trauma.

I’m actually trying to help you, help yourself.

Start researching and writing again. You sound like a frustrated artist.

We can all feel your pain.

Any more lightning out there?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

Remember when people called you 911 truthers/ conspiracy whackos,…or worse, acted like your friend and took your money?

I do.

And they were right.

I was wrong about incredibly important things.

For instance, I distributed tens of thousands of videos I wish I could take back and burn.

These videos implied implausible and unproven ideas.

While I think the Scientific method shows that 3 buildings in NY were destroyed by explosives, there IS NO PROOF of whom put them there.

We always assumed and thought it was shady US forces trying to create “false flags”.

Without proof!

Worse. I promoted for years the idea that no plane hit the Pentagon.

That was wrong.

A large airliner did hit the Pentagon.

Propaganda was created by some and spread by the likes of me and others. We were made to look crazy, because we were crazy to believe and promote certain things.

The best 9/11 researchers hate that I’m even discussing controlled demolitions. The craziest parts of 9/11 are how we had the hijackers living in San Diego and elsewhere for over a year….while being wanted by the FBI for the USS Cole and Embassy bombings.

The worst of 9/11 “truthers”; the laser/ DEW crowd and “no planers”.

Guess where 9/11 “truth” is today?

Nowhere that you know of. Why?

Propaganda helped us self-destruct to absurdity.

The most real evidence and goods are still being discussed by about 40 intelligent reasonable people. And what they’re uncovering is explosive, but no cares, really.

I left it all behind because the stupids were becoming more popular than the smarts. And I won’t be a part of it.

Now, the laser/DEW crowd is onto more socially popular events, like our yearly fires. [I want to swear here, but wont]

I guess I could ignore it again, until next time.

Theres more of my life for you Vicious. I hope you gain a better perspective of my position.

Regarding sports, here’s for pointing me to the hangliders:

https://youtu.be/OIX10ifPxvo

Enjoy, I do.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

I Was listening to Gabor Mate, being interviewed, and he said something that sounded right on…..” we have to risk being wrong”…sounded like somethinga good human would say.

I was looking for Marly Mark up in those hills, all whited out……from the movie ,”The Shooter”

yeah, getting on it.

I wouldn’t go back to Sonoma Either.

I like seeing people’s happy place. …

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

The shooter is an awesome, and underrated movie.

Sid. You’re alright! I’d go fly anytime.

But, I would add, it isn’t too hard to be right.

There are great times to risk being wrong, but I dont think spreading butt rape rumors about dead kids is a “risk”.

Its inflammatory and not even legitimate enough to call wrong.

I got a number of words that behavior fits in.

Just saying, I’m not wrong, I may get angry, but I’m not wrong. I know that.

Central HumCo
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

~no apologies needed from you, Sid. It was a try to reason with the unreasonable, and you held your ground. But alas, to no avail. The glaring insults of the disconnected continue unabated. And I end up “Moderated” Pfft! America is going to hell in a hand basket, so by all means block communication. And the great “experiment” of America is come to an end.

Central HumCo
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym,

Deleting a comment means those that follow get deleted -as you’ve explained to me before. Like when Brian was telling Misty WHILE HER 2 LITTLE GIRLS WERE LOST, about another commenter? My comment, which was an exact quote of Misty’s, got deleted. Brian’s inconsiderate comment followed, but was not deleted. You can’t have it both ways.

“Brian has been put on moderation. ” Yet, here he is @ 4:50 rambling on.

” As have you for the post discussing grammar/spelling errors. ” That’s a stretch. When did this happen? If this were true, why didn’t you say something at the time? Or, edit? Or, delete? It seems that it’s just you, Brian and two others who have a problem with my comments. Otherwise, the conversations continue as they should.

” One of the things that would make my life easier would be to ban some or all of you.” Well now, that’s why people post in here, to make your life easier.

Honesty would make life easier.

“No passion in the world is equal to the passion to alter someone else’s draft.” — H.G. Wells

Central HumCo
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

~maybe if you’d just stop repeating that commenters can insult other commenters, that would be a big step.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Our feelings are different.

You do offend me.

You do offend others.

Right now, SHAK is allowed to spread butt rape rumors about dead kids.

How is this not offensive?

Why the big F is that tollerated?

That is beyond the beyond.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Carrico mom comment:

https://kymkemp.com/2019/03/02/sheriffs-department-releases-more-on-the-missing-girls-in-humboldt-county/#comment-787395

You didnt quote her exactly. You CAP LOCKED a small section of her comment.

You said, “GET OFF YOUR COMPUTER AND LOOK!!!”

That’s exactly what you said. It may be true that you didnt mean that as a clapback. I could see that.

But unfortunately your comment history shows a different attitude. An attitude that would clapback in exactly that sort of way. Sorry you dont see it, still.

Oh, and on the same subject, here’s another person telling you about your attitude on the missing girls thread.

https://kymkemp.com/2019/03/02/two-young-girls-lost-in-the-woods-overnight-in-southern-humboldt-while-their-family-worries/#comment-786593

I could find a commentor a week for a year telling you politely your wrong, or crazy.

Further, it’s not a couple people tired of you. Its likely almost everyone but Shak. And shak posts butt rape propaganda about dead kids. You spread other propaganda. No surprise.

You are discredited in every way possible. Culminating in Jaekel and I busting you for plagiarizing last week. But we know your plagiarism had been going on for a year or more. (Its all on the web, bucko)

Not even your last defenders (from me) are here anymore, you are indefensible.

You call everyone a slave and keep calling for a civil war, yet you admit you dont know if the earth is round or flat. You posted lies and propaganda about our deadliest and most destructive fires. You post the most ridiculous lies and propaganda but call us all stupid.

I’m glad we are moderated. My work is almost completed.

I’m all smiles.

And no, KymKemp.com, is not the Great American Experiment.

Its Kyms experiment on WordPress.

But Grand Delusions do exist.

And I didnt swear once!

Sid, is this slightly more appropriate? I am curious.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Central,

I’m a little off. You are defensible.

Theres a very nice human inside of you that I dont think we see enough of.

You seem to revere nature and appreciate it, maybe even being an activist in ways. Kudos. I respect that. Sincerely.

Also, and particularly, during Trumps “wall” rhetoric and shutdown, you expressed your enjoyment of your time in Mexico, and said all the people were really friendly. You didnt buy Trumps rhetoric of Mexicans in general. Kudos.

I’m sure there’s tons more examples I’ve missed.

I’ve made my points about your reseach.

I’ve made my points about the “information” you spread.

The last point I’ll make is with myself; “Central is alright. ”

I’m sorry for my ass driven comments to you.

I hope we can both improve ourselves here in the future.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

There it is….let’s go fly off a motha freaking steep hill and practice life, real time. …lol

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

Good Answer SID. Lol …Big up on the higher ground TRB!

SmallFry
Guest
SmallFry
4 years ago

Unfortunately, it’s true… Internet free speech has been taken to a grey area of private domain. Kym is the “property keeper” here…. This is her blog, and I might challenge her sometimes to keep the integrity of a journalist, and maintain objectivity, it’s her blog, and I think she does a fairly good job of reporting on issues that Clear Channel conglomerates never will. Especially local news. I think reading Central and Brian battle is entertaining, way better that Fox News, Although TRB kinda acts like a bully sometimes… even though I appreciate facts.. I also appreciate different perspectives..
But it’s a difficult position to be in maintaining free speech. Personally, I don’t like rasist trash smeared everywhere, not to say it is here, or a anybody is..I am actually thankful it’s not.

Kym has deleted some of my comments too sometimes, and it’s a tough position, and she has let a few through that were a bit much, but I actually appreciate Kym gatekeeping because there are a lot of regimion racist bull out there, I personally am thankful to never hear.. And no matter what, who’s ever comment is deleted, someone might get “pissed”… Maybe a speperate thread, Brian vs Central… unabridged, take it outside and let er roll… reader discretion advised no zenophobic bull though… Just a thought lol.. I will have to say, I think Kym’s blog is fairly open, and I have been trying to keep to the rules a bit more.. A lot of the liberesqe forums out there have completely shut out alternate voices. I got completely banned from a Democrat forum for defending Jill Stein, no warnings.. So Kyms forum isn’t too repressive.. Just my 2cents.. Don’t get banned ya’ll. Maybe take it easier on Kym…. All ya All.. me too.. She does have a lot of crazy news coming at her all the time can probably be somewhat disheartening at times. TY Sid for your perspectives. I appreciate them too.. G luck.

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago

I think yall need to get a life

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  This guy

TG, I am glad your so entertained.. Go lively up YOURSELF..