Humboldt County’s Health Assessment Reflects Its High Rate of Poverty
a portion of the health assessment’s Table of Contents
The following is a press release from the Humboldt County Department of Health and Human Services:
The Community Health Assessment (CHA), a comprehensive overview of the health of the Humboldt County community, was presented at the Board of Supervisors meeting this afternoon.
The Humboldt County Department of Health & Human Services (DHHS) Public Health report looks at traditional public health measures of illness, mortality, nutrition and physical activity in the community. The CHA also includes data about income, housing status, community safety and access to care, as underlying social determinants of health.
DHHS Public Health Director Michele Stephens characterized the CHA as “the story of our community’s health,” adding that the study, which uses a health equity framework, demonstrates how factors from the beginning of a person’s life impact health outcomes later.
The CHA summarizes data from a variety of sources, offering a snapshot of the community’s health and the factors that influence it. It looks at root causes as determinants of health. Some rates for leading causes of death in Humboldt County are two to three times that of the state. Other poor, rural communities experience health outcomes that are similar to Humboldt’s.
This is the second CHA the Public Health branch has completed since publishing the first in 2013, and Stephens said many community partners provided input and guidance in its development. “The data allows us to make informed decisions, identify common goals and come up with better ideas and strategies to achieve them together. ”
Connie Stewart, executive director of the California Center for Rural Policy said, “This Community Health Assessment gives us the data we need to drive changes to help people in Humboldt County live healthier lives. I’m grateful to all those who helped create this document.”
Stephens said some of the data is discouraging, but the drivers of community health are complex and ongoing efforts by agencies and partners from across the county will continue to move the dial. “We believe that by identifying common goals and having effective communication, together we can have more impact and better results,” she said.
To learn more about the Community Health Assessment, visit www.Humboldtgov.org/PublicHealth.
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You can either continue to move that dial you’re boasting about, or you can help the poor.
The health group, called RAM, actually helps the people, no questions asked. Paperwork is minimal. Medical, Dentist and Eyecare are free.
Less paperwork, more literal help.
What the people who’ve used them say what to expect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0TLbIuKHLQ
has RAM ever been in this area? Or do they plan to be in the future?
You can ask them at their website. https://www.ramusa.org/
https://youtu.be/IZEdPnSbRjc
When you see interviews like this, you know what’s on the horizon.
The cost to raise a family and put a child through college, will soon be another form of indentured servitude.
Roll the dice with the increase of medically damaged children, then the next question comes to mind.
Can you put a dollar amount on how much energy and resources it takes to raise one child with autism?
Well, Cot Dayum!
“A new study in the medical journal JAMA Pediatrics has pegged the total lifetime cost of supporting an individual with an ASD at an astonishing $1.4 million in the United States. If there is also intellectual disability, the total rises even more, to $2.4 million.”
http://money.com/money/2918134/cost-raising-autistic-child/
Is it any wonder that they are beginning to look at post birth abortions as a stop gap for the nearly impossible resource drain on working families.
This whole vaccine debate is more about control over the DNA over the population, than the health of it.
It’s not hard to look down field with a relatively acute awareness of the darker aspects of our history .
We get so caught up arguing the details, of obstruction and collision, or whatever crap that is pushed today for news,
we fail to comprehend the 3d Chessboard.
Cloward and Piven…. problem, reaction, solution .
Just look at how Hollywood screenwriters are able to weave these scripts into movies that go world wide. Look at the agenda pushed down our kids thoughts, and we sit here behind our keyboards trying to wake these people up.
Problem is, we need to figure out how to tap into the formative minds. How do we engage the kids?
Bildeburg2019
Weaponization of Social Media
Hold on, gonna be a bumpy ride.
Yep. I see you noticed, too, that most of the patients are those who paid thousands upon thousands of dollars for their own insurance but who then couldn’t afford to use it for their own general care.
We’ve gone from living payday to payday to living payday to payday after next.
That’s why we spend our days sharing common sense solutions of volunteerism and of the importance of cutting the costs instead of raising the dollars (pay raises).
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ydKcaIE6O1k
Poverty isn’t a lack of character., it’s a lack of cash
https://youtu.be/ynbgMKclWWc
Richard Wolff on capitalism
The more money we make, the higher they raise the prices. They call it inflation, but it’s really a tax to pay on the interest of the loans for all the ‘free stuff’.
These people can’t even look forward to payday after next to replenish their noodle pantry’s. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7095533/Pictures-downtown-LA-capture-problem-faces-trash-tries-rodents.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus
Meanwhile, the typical person is convinced they’re oh so victimized because of whatever bs they’re trained to believe.
~what a great bunch of giving people! The Youtube video is well worth watching. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
High taxes hurt the poor, and keep them poor, and unhealthy. Gas tax, sales taxes, food distributor taxes, and sending our milk hundreds of miles away to be processed, then shipped back here as finished food. All these unfair and high taxes cause poor people, and marginal poor to have to make decisions between food, medicine, and taxes. Their children go without, be it food or medicine, or new clothes. Just lowering property taxes would help, especially those who do not grow pot. Shouldn’t people who do not grow pay less in property taxes? And those who have now lost the ability to grow in smaller gardens, their land is worth less, and their taxes should be lowered. As far as local politicians being on the front lines to help us, forget that, they are in the pockets of the money people, and they do not have our interest at heart. Donald Trump has helped so many people out of poverty, lowering taxes, and bringing jobs back to the US. More jobs now than people to fill them. And no Obama, he didn’t wave a magic wand, he worked to make it happen. Millions of people are now off food stamps and other govt programs, and are self sufficient. Trump has helped more poor people in Humboldt than all the crooked
local politicians in our county. People in poverty, high gas and food taxes, sales taxes, and high property taxes, are all the results of a democrat progressive govt, local and state. Perhaps we could organize small local food producers to help organize community gardens, bakeries, meat packers, goat dairies, and get some relief from the oppressive county and state govts run by people who care nothing for those who need it most.
Continuing to elect people who don’t know how to run government, except for making favors for their good ol boy friends and family, and their selection of government management to do their bidding while continuing the same tactics that don’t work bring about the government we receive. Some may argue that the limited participation and lack of selection gives us the government we deserve. But either way, local government affects our lives and future the most, and those making decisions on our behalf need to be scrutinized if not removed from office!
~damn straight!
Nepotism is alive and well in these parts
So is denialism….
??Then you better start at the top with “not not my potus” and stop blaming it just on just local government. If local government had the Federal Funding it should have then we’ve health care.
~history proves things change at the grass roots level. ANYBODY still stuck on a Prez. of the U.S. Inc., Board of Directors, 3,000 miles away, that we’ll never meet, and clings to 20th century in-the-crypt Federal funding for health care thought – the hour is getting late.
As Dane Wigington, Geoengineering Watch dot org, repeats (#198), on his weekly Saturday morning broadcasts, outta Redding, we’ve gone thru the guardrail. Putting on the brakes on the way down will not prevent us from hitting the wall at full-speed velocity.
The local criminal parasites (Supes in title only), we can see face to face on Tuesday mornings. If you can’t or don’t want to make the public meetings, tune-in to live streaming, or watch the replay on Fridays. Humboldt ain’t lacking intelligence. Believe me you’ll learn something – the truths you don’t want to hear, but need to hear. At last Tuesday’s meeting, the psycho “Wind Farm” was brought up over and over, even tho it wasn’t on their Agenda. One gal spoke on how the main trunk of this total b.$. is going right up the Van Duzen River!
Like I said, Trump has helped more poor people get out of poverty here in Humboldt county than Estell, Bohn, and any other local politician. Trump has lowered poverty rates, employed many more minorities than any other president or politician. He has lowered taxes for the working class, not the wealthy. Go to any republican state, and you will not see the poverty or homeless people nearly as much as the democrat progressive run state of calif. Their schools are better, health care is better, much lower food prices, etc. In our state, the assemblymen eat at tables with linen table clothes, and crystal glasses, not to mention state congressmen and senators. Their pay is more than most of ours, their medical benefits are better, and their retirement is better. The majority of them are democrat progressives, who could care less about the poor and homeless. Stop voting for these assholes, and get some conservative people in here to fix this mess.
I haven’t seen any of those improvements you’re talking about. The cost of food, especially fresh produce, rises seemingly every time I go to the store. Rents are prohibitive. Forget buying a house! How is health care better?
And while I agree it’s maddening to see politicians enjoying luxury, if we cut their salaries so that they have to eat hot dogs at uncovered tables and drink generic diet cola out of paper cups the savings won’t add more than a teeeeny fraction of a cent to any ordinary person’s pockets.
~i wouldn’t put ANY weight on any one of those 74 pages.
Page 41, (I)mmunization: Before vaccines, many children died from preventable disease such as whooping cough, measles and polio. Immunizing individual children also helps to protect the health of our community a a whole and those people who cannot be immunized. WHAT A BUNCH OF HOR$E$HIT.
One in thirty-eight of America’s sons and daughters have autism – thanks to MMR (I)mmunization. By 2025, Dr. Stephanie Seneff, senior researcher from MIT, one of the world’s most respected research institutes, predicts that 50% will have autism.
“We believe that by identifying common goals and having effective communication, together we can have more impact and better results,” <<<these puppet masters of genocide don't deserve to be walking on the planet.
https://worldmercuryproject.org/news/weeding-vaccine-toxins-mmr-glyphosate-health-generation/
by Dr. Stephanie Seneff.
Do you vaccinate your dog for rabies? Did you refuse that tetnus shot when you cut your foot? Did you get a polio shot, or take the sugar cube? Are you a hypocrite or just selectively outraged?
The link between autism & vaccination has been rather thoroughly debunked.
Documentation for the debunking autism claim?
Please. Like you’d accept anything that didn’t conform to your biases.
Even so, not one of my questions was answered
Laughing, AND vaccinated,
See yesterday’s post @ 5:41 pm.
~there isn’t any.
Central humco
The quote at the bottom is from one of the studies kym linked below.
You might think im trying to prove you wrong, but that isnt my goal.
I strongly encourage questioning of information and finding answers to problems, but doing that through assumptions and poor critical thinking will not move us forward.
Assuming all vaccines are causing autism will not help kids avoid getting autism if its not really the actual problem.
Whatever we disagree about, i think we agree we dont want kids having to develop autism if we can prevent it.
We have to ask “why is autism increasing?” From there every hypothesis should be tested to find actual correlations.
Assuming we know and not using reason, doesnt move us forward.
And then there’s the throwing of the baby with the bath water. Vaccines may have bad ingredients. But vaccines remain really important tools.
Ebola right now is making a strong run toward becoming a pandemic this decade, for example.
Locals there are shooting the aid workers trying to give out vaccines against this really deadly disease. So thousands of people are dieing right now.
And! that sets up the recipe for it spreading worldwide.
Now then, Heres some quotes from thesummary of the autism to vax correlation study. In fairness i didnt read the methodology section and thats important. Someone with better statistical skills than myself has to look at that. Its not my skillset.
“In all, the researchers analyzed the health records of 95,727 children, including more than 15,000 children unvaccinated at age 2 and more than 8,000 still unvaccinated at age 5. Nearly 2,000 of these children were considered at risk for autism because they were born into families that already had a child with the disorder.
The analysis looked at autism rates and MMR vaccination at ages 2, 3, 4 and 5 years. It showed no increased risk of autism with immunization at any age. In fact, autism rates were lower in the vaccinated groups. However, this might be because parents who see early signs of autism were more likely to delay or avoid vaccination, the authors speculate.”
~where did I say all vaccines cause autism?
“Vaccines may have bad ingredients. But vaccines remain really important tools.”
And the dish ran away with the spoon.
If you don’t think that, what illnesses do you think vaccines cause? You keep bring up your friend with the autistic child.
https://youtu.be/Uklt4zVVtS0
Great interview with Dr Gundry about fecal enemas, among other things, to help the gut biome heal in response to heavy antibiotic damage to the gut.
1. debunked by the people selling them..fact: if you cant state a cause.. you cant refute one-wholly.
2. it’s not the vaccines they don’t need.. they shouldn’t have them so close together.
an argument so true.. it’s virtually impossible to get a grant to study long term effects of spacing them.
3. giving free needles, encouraging dope, prostitution homelessness and crime… THE CAUSE of the terrible ACE scores.. Apathy under the guise of tolerance + hypocrisy+Children don’t matter here (ACE).
seems obvious why people have poor health and stay poorer… I’m not hiring People doped.
and on your rapid fire questions spewed out of reaction not response..
do you get 70+ shots in 6 mo’s ?? of diseases.. don’t ya need time to recoup..
do you get… measles, mumps, rubella, flu, whooping, and all those dis-eases the SAME week ??
are you willing to…. even sounds dangerous duh….
Destroying infrastructure of Community Values for ‘the greater good’ .. Progressing to disgust.
—- in first 150 days of life…
Diphtheria, tetanus, and whooping cough (pertussis) (DTaP) (3rd dose)
Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib) (3rd dose)
Polio (IPV) (3rd dose)
Pneumococcal (PCV13) (3rd dose)
Rotavirus (RV) (3rd dose)
Influenza (Flu) (every year)
do the math… days/disease is the kid EVER actually growing properly in that timeframe ??
or mostly fighting disease… it has to have an effect .. physics biology dictate. 🙂 jus sayin’
https://kymkemp.com/2019/05/26/hsu-instructors-hang-glider-stolen-from-eureka/
You are our kind of people!
Have you ever considered a healthy addiction?
Ushpa.org
~thank you, Scott.
You are our kind of people!
There is nothing concealed that will not be revealed.
Scott,
thanks.
70 shots in 6 months?
Who could get behind that?
“I’m not hiring People doped.” Around here that means you probably will not be hiring at all.
First as a child who got mumps, measles, chicken pox, within 4 months as a 5 year old, when my older sister started school and she and her friends brought the diseases home, it is very difficult to say which disease you will happen to meet at any given time. That is not the real issue that prevents research and dissemination of best practices on vaccinations. I think that fear that parents will not follow through with shots places a constraint on what experts are will to say. Being that there are sizable numbers of irresponsible parents, doctors basically automate their information to address the lowest common denominator in order to try to see all children are vaccinated rather than require more visits from the parents who will let things slide. If most parents demanded a customized shot schedule and reliably followed through without prompting, that is what would be offered.
Having said that, I thoroughly agree that so many shots in a short period would seem to increase the chance of reactions. Maybe. It could be that reactions are worse if breaks for recovery are allowed. The trouble is that information is not available. I suspect that grants for research in such things are not offered as much because of fear that people will overreact to any negative findings and stop vaccinating at all. Comments here support that might be fairly typical- when disease is far away, why take The risk? But when it arrives, it’s too late to prevent. People are prone to putting off difficult things if they see no immediate reason.
I think there maybe some hope for improvement. Although I can hear the dismissals before I say anything, I do annual vaccinations of farm animals. One of those animals reacts so violently she must get an anti inflammatory when she gets a shot and one or two more in the following days. This year, for the first time, she got one shot that combined the 2 or 3 shots she got before and there was no reaction at all. I don’t know if the titre was as good of course but it was progress in the stress vaccinations cause. I suspect that such progress is possible for people too.
Laughing, AND vaccinated,
No. Yes. Didn’t take.
Which of the following ingredients in toxic man-made genocide would you say should be injected into the human body?
Aluminium
MF59
Mercury, also called Thimerosal
Gelatine
Human serum albumin and recombinant albumin
Sorbitol and other stabilisers
Emulsifiers
Taste improvers
Antibiotics
Egg proteins (ovalbumin)
Yeast proteins
Latex (in packaging)
Formaldehyde
Acidity regulators
Human cell strains, animal cell strains and GMOs
Recombinant DNA technology
Bovine products
Other growing media
Glyphosate. Vaccines. Autism.
“The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about 9 billion. Now-if we do a great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we lower that by perhaps 10 or 15%.”
-Bill Gates, at a Ted conference in Long Beach, California-Sept 27, 2010
(verbatim!)
Central hum co
Autism is an incredibly big deal that appears to be getting rapidly worse. Of course people are much more aware of “the spectrum” and kids are getting diagnosed and thst drives up apparent rates.
This graph relates to children under 8.
Now, why dont we guess that its monsanto or wifi or bee stings causing it?
In other words, good critical thinking means that we cannot assume we know thw cause of things without underlying evidence.
A study that looked at 100 randomly selected 10 year old kids with and without immunizations might be revealing.
The website i found thst graph on is autismspeaks.org
They say they need funding to research what is happening and find out why.
bee stings… cute..
Those darned bees.. things were better before we had them..
Must be the bees… hey… they sting… cute… Thanks, I needed That. ?
Bees laced with Round Up..?
Check this out, some how it might be microlife in the gut that is the trigger.
I just read this a few minutes ago. We just can’t make this stuff up.
But then, what’s causing the autistic micrlife to grow in one person and not the rest??
Maybe it is glycosphate in the gelatin….and how do we test to assess that?
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/may/30/autism-symptoms-replicated-mice-after-faecal-transplants?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
“But then, what’s causing the autistic micrlife to grow in one person and not the rest??”
Each and every one of us have individual, variable make-ups – like snowflakes – no two are alike (when there was real snow that is). I know the gut problem is a biggy in autistic people.
kelley,
~ya gotta wonder why the un-vaccinated don’t have autism.
“They say they need funding to research what is happening and find out why.” $ame $tory different day.
This fact may help explain why the MMR vaccine has been so often related to autism. How Glyphosate can make its way into vaccines: vaccines can become contaminated in many ways. One potential source of contamination is the animal tissue that is used as a culture to grow the viruses contained in the vaccines. The measles virus for the MMR is grown on gelatin made from the bones and ligaments of commercially raised cows and pigs. Animals that have been fed a steady diet of Round Up Ready corn and soy feed. Gelatin is used as a stabilizer in vaccines creating yet another possible route of contamination. As Round Up producer Monsanto itself has reported, the residue from Glyphosate tends to accumulate in the bones, marrow, and collagen-rich ligaments of animals. To provide additional evidence that gelatin is a source of Glyphosate contamination in vaccines, a number of gelatin-based products were examined including jello, gummy vitamins, protein powders– a significant residue was IN ALL OF THEM.
How many heard a word of this while watching our U.S. corporate media mainstream ministry of mass distraction? Not a word. Not a word. Pesticides are inarguably poisoning the whole of the natural world.
-Dane Wigington, Geoengineering Watch dot org
Central hum. Please link to studies that measures rates if autism among vaccinated and unvaccinated groups.
that website is pretty cool btw. Its put up by people whose families have spectrum affiliations. They want answers. And they appear fact based and goal oriented.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bM8IXClDd58
I recommend Dr Judy Mikovitz’s story.
As a research scientist, she had first hand knowledge.
Great to listen to
Central,
thanks.
The Amish have 0 incidence of autism and Alzheimer’s, vaccinating is against their belief system.
Since they don’t get tested, stay home and out of the system, how do you know?
Both the statements about the Amish are untrue. The rates of both are lower than the average though. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-amish-dont-get-autism/
~oh God, not snopes again.
Mandatory death shots are aiming at the elderly now. I’m guessing you’re on that bandwagon too?
There is plenty of information out there that use stats from Amish to compare with the general population because they live differently than most and do not have the diverse a society where the gene pool is large. You can find research that shows the Amish have genes due to their closed society that improve longevity but you can also find genetic links to bipolar illnesses and schizophrenia. So does not vaccinating cause schizophrenia? Or depression? If you make the case for one thing being true, you have to accept the same evidence applies equally to other diseases.
The heredity thing – in Nijhout’s words; “When a gene product is needed, a signal from its environment, not an emergent property of the gene itself, activates expression of that gene.” Simply put, environmental signals control gene activity.
My Mother had -fill in the blank – so i MUST be “pre-disposed.” The comedian Lewis Black does a bit where he tells of flying from L.A. to Chicago while reading a 34-page article on Diabetes. He
pats his chest and says, “By the time i got to Chicago, i had Diabetes.”
We’ve already covered the shrink’s make-it-up-as-you-go lingo. Bipolar – really?
Environment can’t control a gene you don’t have. Environment can activate, modify a gene at times but it doesn’t create them.
“When a gene ‘product’ is needed, . . . ”
~it doesn’t say ‘create’ a gene.
Central,
thanks.
Vaccinations go against Darwinism. I’m pro Darwinism. Fewer vaccinations equal fewer humans. Fewer humans leads to a healthier planet. Vaccinate your children and contribute to the weakening of the human race.
Survival of the fittest.
“Fewer vaccinations equal fewer humans.” We’re on the brink of the sixth extinction, and you think fewer humans is a good idea?
Spontaneous Evolution – Bruce Lipton, PH.D., and Steve Bhaerman
Four myth perceptions:
Only matter matters
Survival of the fittest
It’s in your genes
Evolution is random
Iconoclast: One Journalist’s Odyssey through the Darwin Debates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLdZzf8HoUU&t=306s 12:51 February 2017
I don’t understand what you are trying to say.
1. How does fewer vaccinations equal fewer humans?
2. “Survival of the fittest” has been debunked.
3. Darwin’s theory that we evolved from apes is dingy. Wasn’t even his theory. Did you watch the Iconoclast link video?
What part don’t you understand?
its called K, but it doesn’t apply to humans, look what trump just did.
I don’t understand what you’re trying to say.
Is this just a blatant poli ad ?
this svc doesnt even seem to be avail here at all… according to their site..
so… can I ad too ? 😉 Love Ya Kym..
Please correct me if I’m mistaken.. I shan’t post another ad for them by posting the link to ref site..
Svc?
Not getting your child vaccinated it’s not hurting your child it’s hurting all the other children they come in contact with who have no choice because they’re too young if you want to keep your child in vaccinated that’s fine then go out and live somewhere in the middle of nowhere where there’s no but they can’t hurt other children
“Not getting your child vaccinated it’s not hurting your child it’s hurting all the other children they come in contact with . . .”
E Ec Ech Echo, Echo, Echo.
https://youtu.be/ab6aMiLna70
Barbara Loe Fisher
~she’s on it! A 46-minute video the masses and specifically pregnant women, should watch.
I have a girlfriend in Windsor who has a vaccine-autism son. He’s 21 now. At 2 years he had the MMR jab and never came back from the hell prescribed by the doctor. He was four when she began researching.
Central,
thanks.
Got the whooping cough as an adult after having gotten a vaccine, was never that sick before.
Section 13 of the vaccine insert “not been tested for carcinogenic potential” etc.
Accoding to large scale research that has been repeated, there is zero connection. Your friend might have an autistic child who was vaccinated but that is coincidence. Might as will say that vaccination causes broken arms since a vaccinated child can breaks an arm too. The cause of autism is unknown and it is way too easy to make illogical connections just because these seperate things happen in the same time frame. It not that such a connection is universally impossible as it is that it extremely unlikely.
That and the diseases themselves are more likely to cause lasting damage too. Something that most people living in the US don’t have to worry about thanks to vaccinations.
“The cause of autism is unknown . ”
Guest, or Guest number two, there are 83 comments on this thread, if you don’t go to the links provided by several of us on the same frequency, i don’t know what to tell you.
It’s been admitted on the public record that the tests done in the labs at the Center for Disease Control, for the MMR jab, were falsified. I posted a Bill Gates’ verbatim quote, and a list of vaccine ingredients, and ask which one would you, or anyone with seven or more functioning brain cells, knowingly inject into the human body? A 7min. video speech by a former Georgia State Senator who was murdered shortly thereafter, is provided. A link and several paragraphs by Dr. Stephanie Seneff TOP MIT RESEARCHER is provided.
Sid posted a public speech by Barbara Loe Fisher, and another by research scientist Dr. Judy Mikovitz. Paul posted a link to a court award of $15 million for vaccine autism. Diane @11:31 this morning says the HUMAN RESOURCE dept., commonly referred to as DHHS, sucked $194,000,000 out of us this year -69% of the Budget!!
Jefferson quotes:
“If people let the government decide for them what food they eat and what medicine they take, their bodies will soon be in as a sorry state as the souls who live under tyranny.”
“Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.”
“The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government.”
“The republican is the only form of government which is not eternally at open or secret war with the rights of mankind.”
Over & out.
Central,
if vaccinations work why are the vaccinated worried about the unvaccinated?
Exactly! Common sense tells you this is a lie.
I’d say it’s because we’ve heard the term “herd immunity” repeated since day one. Just as we’ve been spoon-fed the repetitious “Driving is a privilege ($$$)”. Not mentioned is; traveling is a right.
The word ‘Drive’ comes from back when cowboys herded cattle from one range to market, called a cattle drive. Fitting, huh? Moooo.
For the often repeated fact that vaccinations only increase resistance. They do not prevent disease if enough exposure occurs. You can be vaccinated as still have your immune system overwhelmed by sheer mass. You can have an inefficient immune system and not be able to gain immunity too. Children also might need a series of shots and, until they have them, are not fully immune. Then there are people who typically can’t muster an effective immune response- infants, old people and the already sick. Every ill person is a threat to so many people.
Beside spending medical resources on children who got sick or wereexpise when they were too young to vaccinate just because of internet hooey is a waste of lives and money.
I don’t think it’s the Vaccinations, per se, it’s all the dangerous compounds added to the vaccines.
What’s the difference between a proactive parent, who has family and/or friends affected and who knows there children are not safe from vaccines, where the inserts will have death as potential side effects.
Dr Sherri TenPenny
Dr John Bergman
You might find the decades ofor research done by Jon Rappoport interesting as well, exposing the fraud of Big Pharmaceutical and Big Psych.
I think it goes without saying that unvaccininated kids may not turn out to be filling the news up with killing and stealing that appears so much on the news lately.
Just do a little search on unauthorized experimentation on the public. It’s no conspiracy theory.
https://youtu.be/wO5oJM8GjWA
Medical tyranny is here.
So get your kids vaccinated and they can rob, steal, kill and maim.
https://kymkemp.com/2019/05/29/stolen-mail-heroin-meth-found-during-traffic-stop/
Probably not a scientific correlation, yet worth looking into the efficacy of both arguments.
Vaccinated doesn’t guarantee health, financial well being, happiness, but it will be forced on everyone….
With no ACCOUNTABILITY from the manufacturers.
The vast majority of comments here speak directly to “poor, rural, unhealthy” (and I’ll add to that “profoundly uneducated”) Humboldt County. Sad.
~i’ll hold onto my faith in the people. Best example i see are the weekly county meetings. I must say, i, more often than not, leave there with high hopes.
~i gotta take that “best example i see”, back. The awoke commenters in here, plus The County meetings, and sometimes in a newspaper’s Letter to the Editor section, are fine examples of Humbolt’s people with their feet on the ground.
I have coined it “the green ghetto “.
~while we’re on the subject of “The County’s Health Assessment”- the wise and wonderful HUMAN RESOURCE experts – be aware of the child trafficking. 4 Million was handed over to Foster Care on Tuesday.
CPS Child Trafficking Causes Father Suicides
Video speech by Nancy Schaffer former Georgia State Senator…on CPS – who was murdered shortly after this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pe2fH4lDYA 7 mins. January 2019
Lipstick on a pig all this is, what’s improved since the last Data collection they did in 2013, not a god damn thing. If you have lived in Humboldt for longer than it takes to get your Degree at Humboldt State, you know are Health Care and Mental Health is FUBAR. DHHS can collect all the Data it wants, until Humboldt deals with it’s Housing or lack of Housing issues, health rates will only get worse, Every night hundred of people sleep outside homeless. But Arcata wants to build a Student Housing Project, priorities, Stop talking DHHS, Start taking actions.
~good points.
Abolish DHHS comes to mind.
Raw Unedited Video of CPS Court Hearing Lubbock, TX | Our Courts Are Infiltrated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8UEi9WSbJc&t=7s 24 mins. May 24, 2019
You are incredibly ignorant… I’m pretty sure at this point most rational people just ignore your nonsense.
Most rational people vote democrat or republican, most rational people believe in our system of government and our society, because of the heavy indoctrination from public and private schooling. Most people believe what they want to believe based on family, culture, community, and the reinforcement of societal norms.
Dr Pete Peterson made a comment that only 10 to 15% of the population is able to see through their programming. The rest are meant to be ruled, governed, worked and taxed and buried, (separate from the earth, no doubt)
like the neo feudal resources they are.
Most of the population will be unnecessary as computers and AI will remove the need for the many hands that built the roads, bridges, and infrastructure. They will, through medical, and pharmaceutical, and the petro chemical, will so alter the DNA of our children, that only a select few will be allowed to breed.
Predictive Programming has been y/our life, and we may not know a single original thought, because we may not even need one during the course of y/our day. I don’t blame you for that, it’s just the way dehumanization has been scientifically adapted to our dopamine receptors. It very well could be the children in school today who will vote for post birth abortions, and euthanasia of the feeble, sick, and elderly…”for the environment”.
It takes courage to swim against the current. Most people are sheep and it can be uncomfortable chipping off the calcium from your pineal gland, and detoxing, and unlearning all that crap they keep pushing down y/our pipes.
Central HumCo, has a place at the table: to teach, learn, and engage in the dialectic, and ask questions, and provide some perspective
to the community.
Lot’s of anger, frustration and fear out there, we really need to embrace all the voices in the discussion that can help us make sense of this confusion.
“Confusion has its cost.”
This one goes out to all who wander
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kyquqw6GeXk
Sid,
thanks.
~ditto. Your kind words, Sid, give me heart pleasure.
Bravo, well said, Sid.
I stumbled upon an investigative researcher’s 6 part series on the subject of vaccines that might be worthy to bookmark.
https://www.coreysdigs.com/vaccines-pharmaceuticals/measles-masterminds-millions/
@ the 4:20 shak,
~great link. Thank you.
You’re welcome, CH. I agree, she did an amazing job of researching the minute details of who, what, when, where and why. (all the wtf’s).
These comments are very fitting for the subject on this thread; poor, bad health care, and likewise very uneducated. I still love this county.
I still love this country too, WC. I love the people too. Its just that 80-90% of them are plain old dumb asses. They would rather play with their phone than learn about new ideas. After my kid adversely reacted to his vaccines, and I asked around, all I got was “vaccines are safe”. When I researched the vaccine ingredient WI38, I just couldn’t believe it. I argued with a friend of mine, and when he came up with this link, I knew I was right all along. Something is wrong.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/family-to-receive-15m-plus-in-first-ever-vaccine-autism-court-award/
It’s been very common throughout history for the forward thinking individuals to be ridiculed by the masses, the people I call “dumb asses”. I know that’s not nice, but nice is not making us better or safer; its allowing a select few to continue to keep the blindfolds on those masses.
It’s time to wake up people.
He loves his county, not his country. Outsiders are sub human to him. He also isn’t interested in hearing facts or stating well thought out opinions, he’s just interested in personally attacking others without a cause or goal.
“I still love this county.”
Me too. Just seems like we’re at the eye of the hurricane, in a petri dish.
Let’s start loving our country then! Stop trying to save the rest of the world! Stop illegal immigration. Stop the war on “terror”. Stop catering to drug addicts and thieves. Start helping your fellow Americans regardless of color or creed. The world is full of ugliness and poverty right now, enabling it won’t bring better change. If you can’t survive in today’s world than you shouldn’t be here. Darwinism and evolution need to take place in order for us to survive as a country and a species .
I have noticed one thing- the same people who believe in chem trails and flat earth, (insert your conspiracy theory) are always the same who are on the anti-Vax bandwagon. It’s always the same bs… to compare yourselves with Nostradamus or other free thinkers is a joke.
~opinions, everybody has one.
*clap* *clap* *clap*
I’ve noticed that some people, who are full of stated empathy for comfortably generalized populations, can fall well short of empathy when they dump their spite on a real human in their space. Why should anyone believe in the self stated human values of a person who is brutal to everyone who believes differently? If you can’t defend a person being assaulted by vicious personal rhetoric that happens right in front of you, then your defense of people in general must seem hypocritical.
Guest,
You have very subjective sympathy.
HumCo has verbally assaulted thousands of people on Kyms site.
Stop quacking with the ducks.
Facts can be easily manipulated, just like people.
Who is to say what’s right for you and your family.
Even the founders understood the potential for a medical tyranny.
Is free speech worth taking away?
I see the importance of opposing viewpoints, and the healthy debate we are free to engage in.
It’s dangerous not to be challenged to provide references for viewpoints.
I don’t Agree with everything Alex Jones has to say, but I will stand behind his right to say it.
The peaceful populations are largely irrelevant, so don’t get too worked up.
Have a great weekend!
You seem to be saying that since central hum does something, it is fine if others do it? Really?
Of course what I’m saying is that a person who insults others for lacking empathy, tolerance, etc can’t be considered a judge of those characteristics if they don’t display them in their own posts. I don’t think that Central Hum has ever claimed owning those virtues nor insulted people for not having them. That hypocrisy has been shown by plenty of others though.
What I’m saying is HumCo earns what HumCo gets.
You cant call every reader of Kyms site a slave, while being the most demonstrably ignorant commentor, without consequences.
Never mind the insults HumCo has lobbed at the victims of traumatic fires.
Its beyond gross, and your constant motherly-protection of a punk-bully is lame.
Is there a record number of times I have to say something before you get the message, The Real Brian?
“HumCo has verbally assaulted thousands of people on Kyms site.” (Kym’s site).
~if this had any resemblance of truth or fact, Kym wouldn’t put up with my comments on our dearly beloved RHBB. I sometimes shake my head and wonder what possible logical reason there is for her to allow your untruths to free-flow about other commenters?
EVEN THC’s wife, Misty, while their two little girls were missing!! had to endure a slice of your dee-ranged thought pattern. You didn’t miss a lick. Jumped up-and-down telling Misty about another commenter. UNbelievable! And you’re still treading the muck in the cesspool of “lOOk at Me”.
“Where were you people (other commenters), when i called HumCo out? Where”?? -The Real Brian.
Do you have anything to bring to the table besides your 6-month’s marathon of repetitious spewing of vile hatred? . . . backed up once-in-a-while with an insincere sentence or two.
Here’s a topic to ponder: the plunder of the people’s public treasury by foreigners to the law of the land – of the people, for the people, and by the people.
Signed,
punk-bully
You insulted the people of Paradise endlessly with your lies.
Call me an asshole all you want because of how I talk to you. I agree.
But being an asshole to people who lost their lives and homes is more your ally.
You think theres no affects of spreading fear and lies like ” there was no super tanker” or “lasers” and men in black started the fires?
No affects from continuously spreading false truths?
Then you call us slaves?
My 6 month marathon of vile hatred …… is for your continued pushing of falsehoods without acknowledging when your corrected by verifiable evidence from others.
Just stop promoting bullshit lies.
I’ve confronted you on many of your video links. I’ve provided documentation that you repost videos from flat-earthers, convicted conmen and a neo nazi.
You’ve never said shit about it.
You just tease me and think I’m some Government-loving HumCo-hating twat.
You just have to believe everything is a lie. It’s your religion.
Signed,
Fact checker
~precisely.
In all the debates I have seen about immunization, no one quotes from a study comparing the rate of autism for vaccinated versus unvaccinated children. Is there such a study?
https://www.autismspeaks.org/science-news/no-mmr-autism-link-large-study-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-kids
https://www.statnews.com/2019/03/04/vaccines-no-association-autism-major-study/
“Forced medical procedures without informed medical consent is what we are dealing with here”.
Dr John Bergman
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bM8IXClDd58
Dr Judy Mikovitz.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S8ixbGlHTTI
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3aks6jLmuAM
Dr John Bergman
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Vaccines 101 Dr Sherri Tenpenny.
https://youtu.be/ZDg7CUh53ys
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There are some intelligent, conscientious, doctors, researchers and scientists ,who risk everything, to make sure the truth is known, so we all can make better informed decisions.
Here are a few voices in the wilderness.
Just to be absolutely clear:
My oldest son suffered a severe adverse reaction to his first vaccines–screaming for over 24 hours almost non-stop and running a fever that closed in on 104 degrees. But even before that I was never a fan of forcing people to vaccinate their children BUT false facts on either side are not helpful. And science, at this point is overwhelmingly on the side of vaccines as a whole benefiting mankind as a whole. That doesn’t however mean that those who suffer adverse reactions aren’t “taking one for the team” and I am adamantly against forcing anyone to do that.
Also, again, just to be clear, to the best of my knowledge my three sons are up to date on their vaccinations. I just slowed down their intake and tried to separate the multiple vaccines into one kind at a time.
~my third born did the same. Screaming that high-pitched scream and nothing i could do made any difference. I learned much later that it’s due to the brain swelling from the vaccine. You and i must be of ‘good stock’, that our babies made it thru that 24-hr. period – otherwise, i’m pretty positive they would have mentally checked-out, not to return.
Thanks for the science Kym! Antivaxers: leading the charge back to the good ol 1800’s!
“Forced medical procedures without informed medical consent is what we are dealing with here”.
Dr John Bergman
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bM8IXClDd58
Dr Judy Mikovitz.
—
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S8ixbGlHTTI
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3aks6jLmuAM
Dr John Bergman
—”
Vaccines 101 Dr Sherri Tenpenny.
https://youtu.be/ZDg7CUh53ys
There are some intelligent, conscientious, doctors, researchers and scientists ,who risk everything, to make sure the truth is known, so we all can make better informed decisions.
I think the real debate needs to focus on the ingredients of vaccines. Have you heard of clean vaccines?
If vaccines are safe why is there a vaccine court that’s paid out millions?
No one says vaccinations are totally safe. Dogs are not totally safe, bees are not totally safe, cars are not totally safe, food is not totally safe. It just that the risks of not having them is less than the risk of having them. As anyone who routinely gets in a car believes.
Guest @10:59,
~wait. You’re comparing ‘safety’ between vaccines and cars to dogs and bees?
” It just that the risks of not having them is less than the risk of having them.”
Tripe.
The millions paid out comes from the tax payers. That’s why they cost more to get.
“The price of a dose of the vaccine for whooping cough leaped from 19 cents in 1977 to $10.04 in 1992, and a dose of polio vaccine rose from $1 to $9.91. The cost of giving a child all the recommended immunizations rose more than 1,000 percent in the same period.”
https://www.nytimes.com/1993/03/15/us/claims-and-counterclaims-on-vaccine-costs-generate-heat-but-little-light.html
The vax’s are taxed per side effect.
PRIVATIZE THE GAINS,
SOCIALIZE THE LOSSES
Vaccines cause brain damage: the mothers know
Jon Rappoport
I’ve spent many pages laying out how the medical cartel plays semantic games, in order to “prove” vaccines don’t cause “autism.”
There’s a simpler conclusion.
The mothers know.
They know what happened to their children. They don’t need sophisticated analyses. They don’t need disease or disorder labels. They don’t need the very doctors who administered the vaccines turning around and lying to them.
And the lying is vicious. It’s coming out of the mouths of physicians who are indifferent to human life.
Doctors, underneath their layers and layers of hostile fakery, know the truth, too.
So does the CDC. That agency spends billions defending the indefensible.
William Thompson, the CDC whistleblower who admitted to gross fraud and lying, in order to exonerate the toxic MMR vaccine…he knows, too.
He knows the fraud is rampant inside the CDC. He knows it isn’t just a matter of one subset of data that was omitted in one study.
The vaccine manufacturers know, too. Long ago, they consummated a deal with the US government to forbid citizens from filing lawsuits as a result of vaccine damage. That was the whole point: vaccines inflict damage; let the federal government and the taxpayer carry the burden of financial compensation.
And the labyrinthine system through which a parent must pass, when filing a petition for compensation, is an affront to human dignity.
In that “court,” the full semantic shell game is on view.
“You say your child was severely damaged by a vaccine? First, you must prove the child developed a recognized and labeled neurological disorder. Then you must prove that a vaccine can and did cause that specific disorder. We have erected all sorts of roadblocks to keep you stymied…”
This is a grotesquery. The people who run this system should be in prison for the rest of their lives.
But regardless, the mothers know. They know when and how and why their child withdrew from the world, and was, afterward, never the same.
It was a vaccine.
An empire can be built, and has been built, to avoid that stark truth.
The CDC is the Orwellian Ministry of Truth of the empire. It lies about case numbers of diseases—inflating them—in order to sell vaccines.
It holds meetings to discuss how to frighten the public into getting vaccines.
It beats the drum every hour of every day to assure us that vaccines are the wonder of modern science. Safe and effective. Safe and effective.
The CDC’s propaganda allies and their chosen experts attack the “anti-vaccine people” as close cousins to terrorists.
At the center of this storm stand the mothers.
They know.
They live with their knowledge. They care for their children, who have been driven out of the futures they would have had by poison.
Nothing can shake the mothers’ knowledge.
Not the doctors, not the fake experts, not the government-compensation overseers, not the CDC, not smooth-talking television anchors, not teachers, not school counselors, not neighbors, not friends, not family.
The mothers know.
And if by some great effort, against odds, as they continue to care for their vaccine-damaged children, they organize and rise up, you who are lying to them and passing them off as inconsequential will know they are coming.
You’ll feel the nightmare you’re perpetuating turn around and engulf you.
And somewhere inside you, you’ll recognize this is what justice is.
https://vaccinedeaths.com is one of the many, many sites sounding the alarm.
I believe what I experienced. I am old enough to have seen and personally experienced what used to be called “typical childhood diseases.” Those diseases did plenty of damage and occasionally killed- hearing loss due to measles, residual paralysis due to polio, skin infections, vision loss, etc. I have said this before but anti vaccination people are resistant to everything but disease. I saw epidemics of these diseases sweep through schools year after year, yet you flick this first hand knowledge off for YouTube videos. I got chicken pox, measles and mumps in a very short period when my older sister started school. Subsequently I got pneumonia, encephalitis and a kidney infection. A whole year it took to work through all the sequaela (probably more) to which you would have parents now subject their children just because you believe in conspiracies and hate the government. That makes me angry. Refusing to consider what the diseases themselves do in the pursuit of things that are not reasonable is cruel.
Guest @ 11:35,
“Refusing to consider what the diseases themselves do in the pursuit of things that are not reasonable is cruel.” I see no logic in this statement. Just your opinion on things that are not reasonable.
” . . . just because you believe in conspiracies and hate the government.” Again, i see no logic in your personal attack of another commenter. Just your narrow perspective in print.
Reasonable is nature to nature. Not man-made serum to nature.
The inconvenient truth is, basic science textbooks, the media, and, especially, the pharmaceutical industry continue to resist movement away from the notion of the central dogma. They, thus, perpetuate the layperson’s view that every living thing must be injected, over and over. Apparently if we continue to religiously feed it “dogma food,” even a dead dogma can be kept alive.
Diseases were merely the planet’s way of culling the weak?
Interesting thought?
Maybe the planet could be guilty of murder and maiming, and the high priest class are merely carrying out the natural order, but making profit while doing it.
Earth first just took on a new meaning.
The populations relationship with the earth has been seen as parasitic, by many of the intellectual class.
Why wouldn’t mother earth want to reduce a nasty infection?
This could very well be the Rockefeller and the Rothschilds plan…
~i’m reminded of when my sister’s poodle gave birth to three pups and one of them was sickly right off. The mother pushed it away and wouldn’t let it nurse, even tho my sister tried to get the pup to nurse, it died fairly soon after birth.
Dis-ease.
The Georgia Guildstones have the Rockefeller and Rothchilds plan carved in granite:
Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
I guess the goal is right there for us to see it.
There has to be genomic diversity.
I think it’s time to put on the Michael York version of Logans Run.
There is nothing new under the sun.
Those who have ears, can hear that train coming down the tracks.
Survival in the 21st century, is not a politically correct endeavor.
Head down, chin Up!
“Survival in the 21st century, is not a politically correct endeavor.”
~that’s for sure. “Feel like a number. I’m not a number.” –Bob Seger
Well that’s at least honest. You oppose vaccinations because they save too many people who wouldn’t survive otherwise. That it’s unnatural that more people should live wreak havoc on the planet.
You still have not addressed the damaging side effects of the diseases themselves. Among which can commonly be swelling of the brain (encephalitis) and pneumonia. You state in horror that vaccines can cause brain swelling. Well so do the diseases- only not for 24 hours but days.
Why isn’t there any F@*!ing outrage about non stop wars of corporate banana Republics.
….and the millions killed by government.
Democide
Death by Government.
Because , unlike what many commenters see, little of importance is perfectly clear with a simple solution and no downsides. When they note that it finally becomes clear that action must be taken despite the down sides, it’s grown too large, too involved to cleanly take down.
There is only one solution, which is less damaging than other solutions rather than perfect, that works. That is to limit governments’ and other entities’ involvement before they are too large to eliminate. Of course that accepting that more government should not be the answer to every problem- that the individual needs to accept responsibility for their own governance. If the general population has little self discipline and wants government to act for them, then they have already traded their rights for patronage.
There is an Aesop fable called the Horse and the stag that warns against turning over your independence in exchange for another’s assistance. Once you have turned over power, you will find it hard to get it back. But we modern people don’t do fables anymore.
Guest @11:00 last night,
~i can’t grasp what you’re saying. No doubt, because we perceive, vaca –cow pus, from the opposite end of the stick.
“You still have not addressed the damaging side effects of the diseases themselves.”
Maggie With Chicken Pox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFP1RO8-9NU 4 mins.
Idk about brains swelling for days. Herbal Healer Academy Inc., is a good catalog to have on hand.
I prefer nature. Some prefer man-made brews.
I prefer natural law. Some prefer tyranny.
You are right about different ends of the stick. My perspective comes from the year that I was so sick, the friend I had who wore metal braces due to residuals of her bout with polo, the news articles every year that showed photographs of some mother sitting by the hospital bed of her child while the article reported on the new cases in this or that epidemic, my mother’s smallpox vaccination scar on her arm that no one needs to get anymore because vaccinations freed people from the worry. That period of sickness is remembered with the episodic memories of children, in flashes of being carried places because I was too sick to keep awake until one day after months of being sick, I woke up in a strange room (we had moved and I didn’t know it,) heard the birds singing outside the window that had its shades pulled, fell back asleep then the next time I woke, I felt well. I was lucky at that.
My sister went through most of the same illnesses and came through with apparently only minor hearing loss. Which is true for most children but obviously not for everyone. The diseases, besides making a shambles of schooling and stretching mothers to the breaking point with multiple kids being sick at the same time, were considered normal because there was no option to avoid them. But that did not mean they were benign. I was not undernourished, poor, sickly or uncared for when I got sick but that did not stop these diseases in anyone I knew.
I’m old enough to remember these things (including the home remedies that mostly tasted bad and stood no change against virulent illness) but younger people don’t experience them due to the success of vaccinations so they don’t understand how pervasive this was. They don’t hear about the diseases themselves so they can’t compare them to the negatives of the occasional vaccine reaction to see that the worst that the vaccines can do is multiplied exponentially times by what the diseases themselves did.
People opposed to vaccinating would be better served in pushing for better vaccines and more individual options rather than for eliminating them. I hate to think of children returning to the days of yearly pandemics which would be the result of too many people refusing to have them.
Those criticizing the commenters as “profoundly uneducated” really mean the
“profoundly unindoctrinated.”
Criticizing anyone personally says a lot more about the criticizer than the criticized. I is very much harder to judge a person than it is a statement in a post.
Somebody was asking about a study of the the vaccinated vs the unvaccinated.
The Amish don’t vaccinated, their Autism rate is 0.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/newspunch.com/why-dont-amish-children-get-autism/amp/
They don’t have Alzheimer’s either.
~ i just telephoned my friends in Windsor, w/the 21 y.o. vaccine damaged son, and was told there isn’t a “peer review” done – can’t imagine why not (wink).
Reminds me of when THC and Misty’s two little girls were lost. When they were found and it was reported in, Honsal refused to confirm until it came from his imaginary external authority – peer.
Prove that by citing a scientific study. YouTube videos are not proof of anything but that posting videos is pretty fool proof these days.
Guedt,
who are you addressing?
https://www.verywellhealth.com/amish-vaccinate-autism-rates-lower-3971479
Yes they do. And yes they have children with mental or problems and demented old people too despite being fairly closed community with genes and a life style that improve their chances of aging better. https://www.aaas.org/news/study-amish-suggests-mutation-linked-longer-life-span
You are unlikely to have either of those advantages. Evidence if that is posting on this site.
Guest,
[edit]
If you truly believed what you’re saying you would welcome a discussion instead of telling people that disagree with you not to post on this site.
Answer one question,
why is there a vaccine court if vaccines are safe?
I have never said people shouldn’t post. In fact I address their comments in a civilized fashion. As to the vaccine safety, I’ll repeat an earlier comment-
No one says vaccinations are totally safe. Dogs are not totally safe, bees are not totally safe, cars are not totally safe, food is not totally safe. It just that the risks of not having them is less than the risk of having them. As anyone who routinely gets in a car believes.
Actually the wording in my post is backwards- the risk of not vaccinating is MORE than the risk of vaccinating.
So why are they *reqired* by your government??
Why all this non-stop provax shit in all media?
My brother is autistic; normal baby until the vaccines. I myself, am dealing with iatrogenic damage from prescribed pharma…no compensation for me! The FDA is bought and paid for. “Science” can be bought. Many stories recently about the unreliability of “scientific studies”.
No…I did not vaccinate my kids. Now that they’re adults, they can make that decision themselves.
Really…you pro-fax people don’t find all the hype ODD ?
The incredible ignorance of Central Humco’s ravings, and the total insanity with which this person reads everything and spews back garbage, is quite impressive!
I used to “kind of” read the diatribes, but now I scan over them and shake my head…
Vaccinate your kids. How could anyone think that failing to protect them from preventable diseases is a sensible thing to do? Progress is progress, science is science. You use the internet, and that is surely more harmful! You can hide in the forest, and be an ignorant hick, but it does not mean you are always correct!
The state of healthcare in Humboldt, in the meanwhile, is shockingly poor, and I suggest that everyone should leave the county to consume services. Absenting local providers, hospitals and clinics might be the only way to force them to improve…
As for Central Humco, just think of the amount of wasted energy that this person could have focused on improving their life, their community, their neighbor’s condition, his or her own condition…
Don’t be crazy, vaccinate your kids, and support Harm Reduction too! How can it hurt you? Being ignorant, for life, is painful enough.
“The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits.” — Einstein
There comes a point in your life when you realize:
Who matters.
Who never did.
Who won’t anymore . . .
And who always will.
Please, find something else to do with your time, and, please, go back on your medication… Madness is not equivalent to genius, although they may well be related…
Also, you will find that you are unable to reason or argue your way out of insanity. No matter what you read.
That’s OK, we have medication for that, just not in Humboldt…
Careful.
They called Rosa Parks crazy, as well.
That is a ridiculous comparison. Nice try, but def a miss. Keep swingin sonny.
It feels nice to compare yourself to a hero, but that’s not how history will remember conspiracy theorists like you. Birthers, 9-11, jfk, moon landing… you prob eat it all up. The cure is a good education. Ol’ Billy and me agree every now and again.
“That is a ridiculous comparison.”
Opinion. SCORE – Zero
“It feels nice to compare yourself to a hero . . .”
Sid isn’t comparing himself to Rosa Parks. SCORE – Zero
“The cure is a good education.”
—Those criticizing the commenters as “profoundly uneducated” really mean the
“profoundly unindoctrinated.” –Guest. SCORE – Zero
” . . . just interested in personally attacking others without a cause or goal.” –J
Total Score – Zero.
~no cigar for you, Willow Creeker.
I guess the goal is right there for us to see it.
There has to be genomic diversity.
I think it’s time to put on the Michael York version of Logans Run.
There is nothing new under the sun.
Those who have ears, can hear that train coming down the tracks.
Survival in the 21st century, is not a politically correct endeavor.
Head down, chin Up!
Hey WC!
The comparison was simply to point out a perspective before it became widely accepted.
At the time Rosa didn’t think a human of a different race should be treated different than anyone else.
At one point in history, It was actually legal in the eyes of the government to own a human being like property.
This was how many people believed, when Rosa Parks wouldn’t go to the back of the bus.
This was simply to point out popular opinion will not always stand the test of time.
Remember, when doctors would actually claim that cigarettes were good for you?
Some people trust blindly, because their whole world view is based on the fact that doctors don’t lie, governments have never hurt anyone, and the big pharmaceutical isn’t based on profits first.
“Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. ”
You can do better than that.
the flat earth, the domed earth, the round earth – idk, or care at this point
-HumCo
https://kymkemp.com/2019/01/01/30-acre-fire-burning-southwest-of-willow-creek-in-humboldt-county-according-to-cal-fire/#comment-730418
Dont quack with the ducks.
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/socrates.htm
“The jurors were next asked to determine Socrates’ penalty. His accusers argued for the death penalty. Socrates was given the opportunity to suggest his own punishment and could probably have avoided death by recommending exile. Instead, the philosopher initially offered the sarcastic recommendation that he be rewarded for his actions. When pressed for a realistic punishment, he proposed that he be fined a modest sum of money. Faced with the two choices, the jury selected death for Socrates.”
Alluding to Socrates while aiding the defense of a[edit] flat earther is beyond ridiculous.
I’m sorry that’s all you can muster.
Are you a flat earther too?
https://youtu.be/EdsJulQdUcg
Just for you.
For the record, the official narrative of what happened on September 11, 2001 was a conspiracy.
The unfortunate part of misinformation, the likes of which I rail upon here at Kyms site, is that it detracts from legitimate concerns from very real events; like 9/11.
It’s so sad.
So when it’s important enough, be willing to endlessly supply counter arguments. When it’s not important, don’t raise it to importance by contantly baiting. I would not know if anyone is a “flat earther”because it is unlikely to be a view point that is persuasive and, if it was, is not a big deal. It is troll bait. But incomplete or misleading information about vaccinations are important and can make parents, trying to do the right thing for their children, too fearful to make a good choice.
Framing arguments in personal insults does nothing to counter the misinformation. It does as much to stymie aligning the public for resolving issues as does the misinformation itself. Anti vaxxers have a point- vaccines are not perfectly safe. But shutting them out of the debate by calling the stupid or insane only makes them more determined to frame discussion only in their own terms. Both sides in those kind of debates refuse to listen to the points the other side has. Vaccines should be made safer and I think could be if people were not so afraid to admit that the other side of an issue has a point. Vaccination regimens can be improved and should be improved. Admitting that improvement is needed is not going to mean that all vaccinations are going away if reasons for their continued need are explained. The irrationality of anti vaxxers can not be countered by irrationality but can be with patient but relentless reasoning.
https://kymkemp.com/2019/01/01/30-acre-fire-burning-southwest-of-willow-creek-in-humboldt-county-according-to-cal-fire/#comment-730420
If you read this thread, you’ll see fruitless efforts by me of patiently reasoning with HumCo.
That’s just the earth issue.
Then theres spreading lies like “no supertankers” at the Camp fire.
Or, 20,000 were killed in Paradise.
Or lasers started the Carr fire.
Or the courts.
Or the permits.
Anything official.
Anything women’s March related.
Everything.
Oh. And you’re a slave until you agree with HumCo.
Those are chains I dont wrap around my comments.
And I dont suffer idiots well.
When skepticism erases rationale.
Good luck with your patient persistence.
I don’t suffer fools well either. Tell me when any of those theories that you find so repugnant have caused a failure of public works. Did masses if people insist the government search out lasers and destroy them? Are they effectively lobbying to have the flat earth society’s view point in schools?
Now if you want a recent conspiracy that is effecting everyone, try the Russian-Trump Election Conspiracy, the mention of which I sure will send any of it adherents into agonies of defensive rhetoric. Many people see the defects in other’s views while determinedly refusing to examine their own. Patient persistence is the only thing that works because, as PT Barnum is reputed to have said “There’s a sucker born every minute ” and so are conspiracies created every minute to sell to them. Oh- and keeping a grip on one’s own temptations to buy easy answers.
Ok.
I’m seeing you a bit more clearly.
Thanks for your explanations.
But I would say that Trump, being an Obama birther conspiracy promoter, is an issue.
His voters and believers go hand in hand.
Your issue is with the Mueller investigation; but Trump is obviously guilty of obstruction of justice.
I would add that its wonderful that Mueller found no collusion evidence.
Investigating Trump, who has bred more conspiracy theories himself than any other President, is not in itself wrong.
If your upset about extremist lefties that think Trump is a Russian, fine.
But please, the common thread with Trump and his supporters are lack of facts tied with bold and devisive statements.
You blame it on the Press that Trump was elected.
Why then does Trump label the Press as “the enemy” to Americans?
The Mueller investigation, along with the Senate found tons of evidence of Russian meddling in our elections.
Is that a disservice to know and document? No.
People are serving time. Trumps lawyer, Flynn, George P. This can’t be ignored as conspiracy by Mueller and the Dems.
The overly-skeptical and underly-rational are a problem in my opinion.
Then theres just straight liars and fools.
Thanks and good luck.
I’m impressed by your comments and patience, for sure.
I dont have the patience. For sure.
Ignorance is calling a pro-choice vaxxer an anti-vaxxer.
Ignorance is failing to attack the issues with sound facts and instead resorts to attacking a poster for posting theirs.
I just finished watching over 1000 of the Air Force graduating cadets receive their diplomas and take their oath to protect and defend the Constitution, not the latest trendy big pharma deal with politicians. The President spent over and hour doing the Salute, Shake Hands, Pivot, Repeat, of every single graduate. They value liberty. Forced vaccines is not ‘liberty’.
Salute
Shake Hands
Pivot
Salute
Shake Hands
Pivot
Salute
Shake Hands
Pivot
x1000+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyU1kfP7MJo&feature=youtu.be
Coming from someone who thinks orbs started the Carr fire, and that the media tints Trumpo Grumpo orange.
You are batting a zero for critical thinking and fact checking.
You and HumCo the flat earther are amazingly ignorant, and proud of it.
Its hard not to say it 15 times a day.
Bodily decay is gloomy in prospect, but of all human contemplations the most abhorrent is body without mind. Jefferson
LOL, CH, you’re still labeled (as apparently am I) a flat earther by the conspiracy theorist who claims that anyone who watches or reads anything that some flat earther produced, is a flat earther. That’s like saying anyone who watches tv is a square earther… oh wait, tv’s have FLAT screens! AHA!! That conspiracy king must be right. We watch FLAT SCREEN tv’s because we live on a Flat Earth! OMG!!! OHHH EMMMMMM GEEEEEEE!!! Now I get it!!! I truly do!! Holy $h%t CH, why didn’t we catch this before now? OMG, now what should we do? We’ve been so blind.
DING! Top score for the day. Too funny =^.^=
Central HumCo quotes on the flat earth idiocy:
“I think its interesting”
https://kymkemp.com/2019/01/01/30-acre-fire-burning-southwest-of-willow-creek-in-humboldt-county-according-to-cal-fire/#comment-730418
Everyone should know what HumCo is.
“Central HumCo quotes on the flat earth idiocy:”
Opinion. Score Zero.
“I think its interesting”
Actual quote: I think it’s an interesting concept. I’m more concerned about survival.
Misquote. Score Zero.
“Everyone should know what HumCo is.” (hint: who cares?)
Opinion. Score Zero.
~three strikes, you’re out.
The very first time you fact check!
Unfortunately, its not to your benefit.
Hey everyone, you can get sound legal and health advice from HumCo the Flat earther.
Flat earthers say vaccines are baaaaaaaaaad, very very baaaaaaaaaad.
Ooooooohhhh.
Make sense?
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/6996
The peaceful Majority is irrelevant.
“The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work… when you go to church… when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
Neo: What truth?
Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind.”
Morpheus The Matrix
https://lovemovementevolution.com/labofvisionaryplay/matrix-as-a-documentary
I recommend you concern yourself with verifiable evidence and facts a little more, and transcribing 20 year old movies a little less.
Listen, I’ve got a life and would like to at least pretend it is meaningful. Less carping at each other please. Try to argue issues
Kym, do you really read every comment? I’m sorry for my part adding to the cacophony.
With respect, arguing issues is pointless with a few of the commentors.
They don’t adhere to facts, verifiable evidence or anything near it.
There’s nothing left but to remind other readers of the falsifiers ridiculous statements from before.
But I’ll try to shut myself up and let the misinformation proceed unabated.
ULLR, Almost always I read every comment. Some people I might skim just checking to be sure they are staying in the bounds but as a whole on all but the busiest days, I read every comment.
Brian, I sympathize as you know. And correcting misinformation is one of the reasons I value you as a commenter. I’m just seeing too much jabbing at each other and not enough information.
Do you have an issue with the article concerning the peaceful majority I sent you?
The Matrix movie is massive in terms of telling truth through fiction.
I’ve sent you an incredible talk by Richard Thieme at def con 22, on which Mr Thieme goes into that theory.
People don’t always get it right 100% of the time, and I’ve seen plenty of examples of your blindspots, Brian.
There are always more questions than answers, and I’d to think I’m respectful with my Intentions to share good and relevant information to others.
I’m open minded to different viewpoints, and it definitely comes at a cost to the ego, yet, I’m willing to hear your side.
We all get a bit cranky now and then, but I see a little bit of that marriage therapist who went a little off the reservation a few days ago.
“The killer in me is the killer in you”
Here’s Shak wildly claiming that the media tints Trump orange.
Of course, if you follow the comment thread, Shak could never back up the false accusation he made.
https://kymkemp.com/2018/11/18/man-who-alleges-his-humboldt-county-marijuana-was-stolen-by-police-filed-a-federal-lawsuit-friday/#comment-675075
Kid shit.
It’s happened at least once:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/01/11/seattle-tv-station-aired-doctored-footage-trumps-oval-office-speech-employee-has-been-fired/?utm_term=.ab11afb6e23a
Ullr,
I really appreciate your efforts regarding backing up claims.
So it happened! (Once)
Unfortunately it doesn’t validate Shak, as he made the claim in November 2018.
The article and doctored footage you link to was from January 2019.
Glad the employee was fired.
I had heard it happened and a quick search showed a few stories to that effect. I’m not really interested in backing other people’s claims, but if I find supporting or detracting evidence I’ll post.
My efforts with this online community is to offer levity and to offer information. I don’t go out to slander anyone, insult anyone or pretend that I’m going to change anyone’s mind.
Living out in the sticks this works as my coffee shop banter while I dodge verbal razors… and throw a few back.
Cheers.
Unfortunately when I asked Shak for evidence of his claim he never produced it
https://kymkemp.com/2018/11/18/man-who-alleges-his-humboldt-county-marijuana-was-stolen-by-police-filed-a-federal-lawsuit-friday/#comment-677547
“The media” is also much different than one station in Seattle.
More to the point, the doctored footage was side by sided with none other than CNNs footage to show it had been tampered with.
So, it looks like “the media” is doing fine.
Brian- it’s a matter of loss of trust. If the media can’t be pretty much relied on, then it deserves it’s poor reputation. It’s hard to justify the liberal press’s rush to accept the most unfeasible stories such as Jussie Smollett’s or defending the Steele dossier being used by the FBI while condemning the same behavior from the opposite side.
Jounalism standards have so been effected by partisan politics that they must all be considered suspect. It’s not that general journalism- historically long on slippery principles- is worse than it has historically been but that the few bright lights of reasoned journalists have been shouted into silence by the overexcited masses longing to take sides. Maybe if the consumers were more offended by bad reporting, even when it was a self confirming read, then the reporting would get better.
It seems you’re undefended by poor reporting by Commentors, as long as they arent liberal.
Theres not one Press agency that’s not trying to see what happened with Smollet.
Its poor choices by consumers, like Shak and HumCo that drive and promote bad press.
HumCo has hand delivered hundreds of misinformational tidbits to everyone regarding everything.
Do you think that comes from CNN?
Healthy skepticism is fine and great, I have my own.
But stop ignoring the ignorance of the worst falsifiers in front of you that you have a hand in helping counter or promote.
If you really care about good information, that is.
Brian, I have similarly defended Willie Caos Mayhem, R-dog, Kym herself, and others. I just don’ like mindless insults from either right or left but most of all I hate ganging up on a poster to do nothing but post belittling useless insults. I admit to thinking lefties are worst because of their tendency to insult by assuming their own words are personally morally superior. I can deal with a rightie calling “socialist” or “communist” better than a leftie insulting by calling someone mean, stupid or racist. If you can’t see the difference, it is hard for you to see the importance but there it is.
No one in their right mind thinks that “good information” is gospel on the web. At best it starts one on a search for more information. And to do that you have to read and understand exactly what a poster is meaning to say . Not what you want to assume they are saying. And that brings me to a point that I want to offer Central Humboldt a semi apology. She was going on about FDR packing the court which I wrote off. In truth “packing the court” is a term used to describe adding more judges to dilute the influence of current sitting judges. FDR didn’t do that although he attempted it. But he was in office long enough to end up appointing 8 of the 9 judges who then pushed his agenda for decades. And serves as a perfect example why more than two terms has become an anathema in the US. It is easy to dismiss what someone says if they don’t use the magic words but, if you really respect other humans, it should bother you to do it.
“Your issue is with the Mueller investigation; but Trump is obviously guilty of obstruction of justice.”
You care to provide links are you unable to practice what you preach?
My personal opinion is that the circus needs to control both sides of the argument. Most of the political process is bought and paid for.
It is a belief that most national narratives are a massive distraction to keep the circus animals, in their tent.
Georgia Guidestones.
Let’s get this show on#
Sid,
Read the Mueller report.
Listen to Muellers recent press press conference.
There was never an exoneration regarding obstruction. This has been made over-abundantly clear.
And regarding your ” Peaceful Majority” article, it’s written by a Christian apologist Islamaphobe.
No thanks.
No thanks??
I don’t think you are any better than the people you criticise and judge.
I’m beginning to think you wouldn’t mind seeing a few amendments….AMENDED.
Just like the club of Rome stating in its documents, making humanity the enemy of the people.
I’ve been on this planet long enough to know that evil takes many forms. Many people will do anything to have Power over others. Thats why democracy is such a dangerous form of government when it comes to the rights of the individual.
You’ve disappointed me in your ability to look forward and use original ideas and messages of hope and inspiration.
Truth.
With that said, let me post the Bob Barr Transcripts that overall states to the observant the obvious. You can’t prove innocence, only guilt, and there was no evidence of guilt. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/william-barr-interview-full-transcript-cbs-this-morning-jan-crawford-exclusive-2019-05-31/
With that said, more and more info is surfacing about the foreign countries that have been trying to overthrow America. Soon, certain officials will be hearing ‘ciao baby’ more frequently.
haha, typo. William, Bill, not Bob, Bobby.
Just ran across this researcher’s article regarding the Obstruction. Apparently there was obstruction, but the wrong person is being blamed.
Mueller’s hack’s transcript on the left and the court released transcript on the right clearly shows obstruction of justice.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1134586581325627392.html
Yah Shak,
Your always on it.
Orb city obstruction.
Your record of research capability speaks for itself.
Was it the cowify people?
This article “Mueller report busted for doctoring transcript and misleading on Obstruction of Justice evidence” is easier to understand. Researchers don’t have the gift of gab to explain everything to everyone, but this author of this article did a swell job.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/06/mueller_report_busted_for_doctoring_transcript_and_misleading_on_obstruction_of_justice_evidence.html#.XPQIjorZsQ0.twitter
The idea that absolute freedom of the individual in choosing to vaccinate or not as suits them is as short sighted as it would be to make a personal choice as to stopping at a traffic light or not. In some things, the devastating result of being unable to rely on others following the law is so severe as to make limiting free choice a social obligation. Just as the occasional idiot blowing through a stop sign is small enough to allow drivers to continue to share the road, if the levels of people refusing vaccinations are small enough, then going to public schools can be considered safe enough. But when too many refuse to follow the law so that it becomes unsafe for people to either drive or go to school- both of which are overwhelming good- then so sorry, you have surrendered your right to participate.
“Follow the law.”
OH Paaleeeze!
~what would happen if our children didn’t attend the Public Fool @System@? The horrors!
Yes. Unfortunately it would mean that parents incapable or unavailable would not educate their children at all. So, OH Paaleeeze! yourself. Like vaccinations, schools have their negatives but their absence would be worse.
“The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct her/him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike, rather than those who think different.”
America has 5% of the population, yet consumes 50% of the world’s petrochemical pharma poison drugs, paying the highest price for so-called health care, ranks highest in autism and suicide. But a distant 45th for longevity, 42nd in infant mortality – far behind countries that emphasize food, herbs and supplements for good health. We rank 19th in education, just slightly ahead of Mexico.
“I am and have been for years a confirmed anti-vaccinationist . . . I have not the least doubt in my mind that vaccination is a filthy process that is harrmful in the end.” Gandhi (1869-1948).
On August 27, 2014, CDC scientist William Thompson came out of the shadows and revealed that he had participated in a major scientific fraud: Ten years earlier, he and his co-authors had published a study claiming there was no MMR-vaccine connection to autism. They had omitted vital data which contradicted that finding.
The MMR vaccine was increasing the risk of autism. Thompson knew it. So did his co-authors. They buried that chilling fact.
Robert Kennedy, Jr. “All the things that I do are bent on forcing this [vaccine] debate out into the open—because once the science is in the open, the CDC’s position is so fragile, it’s an edifice of fraud, fraud stacked upon fraud, so high and so wobbly, that even a slight breeze of public scrutiny will topple it.” January 2017
Bob Wright, the former CEO of NBC, gave it voice in his book—in his account of what happened to his grandson. Robert De Niro, who has an autistic son, pushes people to see the film, Vaxxed. De Niro isn’t just talking theory. Obviously, he knows his son suffered life-changing injury from vaccination.
No amount of Hollywood style scenarios trying to cast doubt on the 2004CDC study showing no link between autism and vaccinations changes the finding of a number of subsequent studies that independently replicate their results. Autism is not linked to the MMR statistically, empirically or any other way except coincidence.
And the harm this mistaken campaign causes? “Dr. Saad Omer of Emory University noted it’s important to think about opportunity costs when deciding to devote research time and money to further exploring such a well-mined issue, writing that “continuing to evaluate the MMR-autism hypothesis might come at the expense of not pursuing some of the more promising leads.”” https://www.statnews.com/2019/03/04/vaccines-no-association-autism-major-study/ In other words, this fixation on irrelevant nonsense such as Dr. Williams petty sniping and insisting it proves anything is keeping research from being funded in making vaccines safer.
These diseases, left to run their course naturally, cause far more frequent and serious damage to children then if all the debunked allegations of side effects were true. Autism has increased because more and more people were put into that category, not because there was any higher rate of the condition itself. No one is a difficult child anymore. Every mental problem has now been pigeonholed so that there is a diagnosis code for psychiatrists to successfully bill insurance. If there is a conspiracy, it’s of the medical profession to ensure that they get paid by shoehorning every complaint into a diagnosis.
https://www.parents.com/health/autism/the-history-of-autism/
Alleging that everyone else is “indoctrinated” is hard to credit when the same weak but sensational arguments are endlessly repeated by anti vaxxers. They are the truly indoctrinated. Me? I wish that my parent’s had had the opportunity to vaccinate me against the illness I got. I don’t have the luxury of picking and choosing what statements saying that these diseases were not dangerous because I personally experienced the series of complications they lead to.
Guest,
~you can be right – to each his own.
Anti-vax – Parrots R Us
https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/racketeering-charges-filed-against-donald-rumsfeld-monsanto
Unethical Human Experimentation has been documented for the last 100 years.
Some Band wagons are smaller than others. Watching a child experience medical injury is something I would never wish on anyone.
All I can think of is Rosa Parks, who wouldnt sit at the back of the bus.
The people who told Rosa Parks to sit at the back of the Bus, were on the wrong side of history.
I see and hear lots of people who are still interested in putting Rosa Parks at The Back Of A Bus.
@Kym, I deleted my @1:26 post after realizing the mistake made, but it still shows up in my browser. Can you delete it please. Thanks in advance.
Sounds to me that the DHHS wants more money thrown at them by the supervisors – because that’s worked so well so far – since their piece of the pie in the county budget is at 69% of the total budget. Almost $194,000,000 this year Let that sink in
A bit more info.
Vaccine scandals taint Beijing’s ambition to become a global pharmaceutical powerhouse
Published Wed, Jul 25 2018 1:53 AM EDTUpdated Wed, Jul 25 2018
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/24/tainted-vaccines-mar-beijings-made-in-china-2025-pharma-ambition.html
In China, Vaccine Scandal Infuriates Parents and Tests Government
By Javier C. Hernández
July 23, 2018
阅读简体中文版閱讀繁體中文版
BEIJING — Chinese parents were in an uproar on Monday after reports that hundreds of thousands of children might have been injected with faulty vaccines, the latest scandal to hit the nation’s troubled drug industry.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/23/world/asia/china-vaccines-scandal-investigation.html
There are warnings of National Security issues over China’s Pharma for many drugs including blood pressure meds…most of our drug ingredients are from China even if the drugs are made here.
Top vaccine makers Merck and Pfizer target China and older adults next.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/10/merck-pfizer-sanofi-pasteur-and-glaxosmithkline-make-billions-from-shingrix-and-gardasil-vaccines.html
Our FDA can’t even keep our beef or lettuce safe almost always send out a recall to late to do any good.
9 million dollars a month gets sent from the government to various households in Humboldt (mainly Eureka) every month. let that sink in. current payment is $923/month for SSI.
Love the theories in the comments section!
There’s 2 gigabytes or so we’ll never get back…
Interesting ideas: Vaccines cause autism. Harm reduction causes needles in the park. Hmmmmmm…. Here’s another one: Genetic drift, failure to evolve, Humboldt is Scotland, the rest of CA is England…
One more: Pain Management is more important than Mental Health Services. We need something to mix with, after all…
I would argue more specifically, but I was sternly warned.
Happy June!
Kym @8:25 this morning,
~my electricity has been off most of the morning. Otherwise, i may have let The Real Brian’s boring, vicious, verbal attacks slide. But really, you say your rules are about Not attacking other commenters, yet doesn’t seem to hold true for two or three in here. If i post two words (Don’t breed), it’s [edited], and i’m threatened with “monitoring”. Yet Billy Hummingbird can rant on and just gets a “Careful”. The Real Brian brings you to a “Please Stop”.
Are you guys all related? 🙂
Waaaaah. Looks like we found your “squaw.”
“politically correct”.
First score of the day for funniest. As in, WHO THE HELL CARES?
Poly – many. Ticks – blood suckers.
-HumCo
https://kymkemp.com/2019/05/29/69-year-old-woman-found-dead-in-crash-near-frog-woman-rock-video/#comment-817818
HumCo is so tough when it comes to what Humco calls other people. Squaw is to be laughed at by HumCo, and if its offensive to someone they are stupid.
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HumCo wants us all to be nicer, and respect the BS HumCo spits without any fact checking.
But HumCo dont give a FUCK about how others feel.
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Actually I find the term “Squaw” offensive and degrading.. TY for pointing that out.. TRB…
I’ve been “monitored” for years, but, it is unusual for you to complain that you are being attacked… The normal aplomb you demonstrate during the application of your, interesting, opinions, is your best feature…
Hope you feel better soon! Nothing personal…
” . . . but, it is unusual for you to complain that you are being attacked… ”
True. I like stars said just to ignore Brian’s hysterical rants. For the most part, i do.
~give ’em enough rope . . .
btw, i don’t feel bad. How could it Not be personal for you to make such a statement?
I think there is something to be said about not forcing vaccines on people. And personally I do not believe that vaccines are to be 100% trusted.. However I think they have done some good for the world.. for sure. When I was younger I knew a woman who had Polio. It is a very dehabilitating disease. I mean, it’s one thing to think that disease can naturally reduce populations, and are part of a bigger picture. But, it’s quite another to see it in effect. People don’t just die.. they suffer. Horribly.. without vaccines.. I for one am grateful the vaccines slowed or stopped the spread of polio, and other unmentionable horrible diseases…
But yeah.. Humboldt County.. poverty rates high.. health care..poor. Very true. So.. the supervisors think that… that somehow.. equates to.. them taking a raise?? (Minus Madrone of course..TY Madrone). Just throw more money to a gov. Adgency.. that will fix the problem.. Back to buisness boyz.. Abatements anyone?? Oh. I know how to fix the problem.. ok.. Create more joblessness and homelessness through environmental superiority, yep. That should do er.. Few raids on homeless people to flush em into empty businesses.. And right O.. the board of Supervisors will have this county looking like a clean bill of health in No time… But hey.. Eureka could start doing like what San Francisco did.. Tenderloin tours??
Exactly, Small Fry, which is why most of America is Pro-Choice-Vax. They choose the when, where, why, what and even the who of important decisions. Rarely do we see a totally anti-vaxxer. Most agree that certain qualified vax’s are important, and that other vax’s ‘might’ be important enough if used-taken judiciously. But forced vax’s by the numbers, is downright unamerican and dangerous. That is why all who fight the danger and who push for sensible solutions, are being harassed and labeled as anti’s. The funny thing is though, the huge eye opener is the fact that freedom of choice is being belittled. What’s next? The freedom of choice to eat or not to eat? (drink, sleep, vote, work, shop, et al?) Why, it’s almost as if a nefarious super computer has taken over the planet, not just silicon valley.
” But forced vax’s by the numbers, is downright unamerican and dangerous.” Yep.
From the book THE SANCTITY OF HUMAN BLOOD:
Mandated v mandatory – the latter means ‘a request to do something.’ Mandated means there are legalese words about something. Vaccines are mandated, not mandatory. People do not need vaccinations. There are no reasons, medical, scientific, historical, legal or otherwise to vaccinate children. Vaccinations are only for non-intelligent beings who have brains and do not use them—non-critical, non-analytical, believers.
Vaccination is not immunization. Vaccinations deplete your Natural immune system. Forced vaccination or “vaccine rape” is really a crime just as surely as if someone stabbed you with a poison needle against your will. In fact, it is just that! If you doubt that such unconstitutional orders are lurking very near, possibly days away, please visit jackmclamb.org, or deathbyvaccination.com.
Dr. Hilda Clarke said that she, “Never saw cancer in people who were not vaccinated.”
Vaccines can be a sensible solution. But what if.. just what if they were not in some sort of way. I think that there is a possibility certainly that the big pharma’s might not be 100% honest about the true side effects. Since they are “for profit”.. I just think that people should be able to maintain thier independence when it comes to thier biological wellness, and well being. Personally, I use vaccines.. but I am Leary.
Actually I am 99% sure a multi vaccine caused a major health complication in my dog… so. One day, he was fine, the next I took him to the vet, and got shots. Within a few days, he contracted a major health issue that almost killed him.. In reaserching what caused the situation, one of them was vaccines… of which he had just gotten. Since then, I have also read that multi vacs are worse, and to never Multi Vacs.., use single vacs. But that is the 2nd time a vac. Has nearly killed my dog. 1st the dog got parvovirus from a shot. But probably because it wasn’t stored right… The 1st dog was elderly, and I stopped giving him vacs from then on.. my other dog has had no issues with them what so ever. And I find rabies pretty scary, so I will keep using them.. But.. I am Leary now..
C.Hum… Forced vacs, I would say is definitely UnAmerican and dangerous. I agree.
But dang.. to each their own. I mean honestly some vaccines are needed. I don’t know, it’s one thing to live in complete fear, or to balance the odds..
I mean I try to keep an open mind.. but open it to much and your brains may drop to the floor.. just sayin..
“I just think that people should be able to maintain their independence when it comes to their biological wellness, and well being. ” <<<that really is the whole point.
F.E.A.R. – False Evidence Appearing Real.
That’s it in a nutshell isn’t it.
I envy the groups who have faithfully avoided all of the vaccinations and who have come together as a community to those who were stricken. (rarity).
I envy those who know how to read the data and the errors in the data and then go on to make their own informed choices.
I don’t envy any body who bows to the fear porn in order to submit in hopes of pushing the responsibility onto everyone but self for not doing their due diligence for informed decision making.
2 groups I envy, 1 group I pity.
I’m glad your dogs are okay, that was quite a scare for all of you. A very expensive scare at that.
It’s not uncommon either, for parvo shot pups to still get the disease, and/or spread it. But it is uncommon to see the adverts for the meds that help to avoid it. (Paxxin).
This family lost one of their vaxxed pets recently, and discovered the paxxin trick to help stop the spread. (if used early enough, it stops the disaster in it’s tracks). It’s not an advert, it’s a helpful tip. I’ll share it here for whoever might need the info for their pets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHS5-IPnfZA
Ty for the info. I will explore that option if needed in the future certainly.
Giving too much control to the government is as bad as having the wrong people in office. This is why we have term limits. The elected people in Eureka, represent the money, the power, and, supposedly, the community. This IS America, right?
We get an opportunity to clean house, every election. I recommend replacing Estelle Fennel, and Rex Bohn ASAP!
Good old boys on the board are never a good idea, either on the board of your county, or in the offices of your public agencies, like the hospital or the water department…
Humboldt lacks good, smart people who serve, but it does not lack good people. As the economy evolves from outlaw to enterprise, well, things are going to change. This is healthy and normal!
The gold rush ended, the timber thing, over. Pot farming may survive to some extent, but market forces will level the field, competition will serve to flush the waste.
Elect decent and honest representatives, serve the community. Stop being selfish. After all, if we didn’t give so much to the poor, they wouldn’t be so lazy, and such narcissists… But that’s another story!
Capturing Wild Pigs (email from Trinity County)
A thought to remember, Marx said, “Remove one freedom per generation and soon you will have no freedom and no one would have noticed.”
There was a chemistry professor in a large college that had some exchange students in the class. One day while the class was in the lab, the professor noticed one young man, an exchange student, who kept rubbing his back and stretching as if his back hurt. The professor asked the young man what was the matter. The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting Communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow his country’s government and install a new communist regime.
In the midst of his story, he looked at the professor and asked a strange question. He asked: “Do you know how to catch wild pigs?” The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punch line. The young man said that it was no joke. “You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come every day to eat the free food. When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side. The pigs, which are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat that free corn again. You then slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd.
Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon they go back to eating the free corn.
They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity.”
The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening in America & Canada. The government keeps pushing us toward Communism/Socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income, tax exemptions, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments not to plant crops (CRP), welfare entitlements, medicine, drugs, etc., while we continually lose our freedoms, just a little at a time.
One should always remember two truths:
1. There is no such thing as a free lunch, and
2. You can never hire someone to provide a service for you cheaper than you can do it yourself.
If you see that all of this wonderful government “help” is a problem confronting the future in America & Canada, you might want to share this with your friends. If you think the free ride is essential to your way of life, then you will probably not share this. BUT, God help us all when the gate slams shut!
Think about this Quote for today: “The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.”
Good story. Not too realistic or comprehensive, but entertaining.
SImple is good. Simple works. There is no freedom, it is an illusion, like healthcare and government.
Healthcare is not too good anywhere, but sort of better where folks are wealthy and have insurance. Government is an illusion, sponsored by the rich. Freedom, true freedom, is non-existent for our species. We are less oppressed than other people, but still work in a complex microcosm of conventions.
A simple story may assist in the education of the powerless, but it hardly does any good to stand in a remote location and tell the story.
The poor and the powerless being given everything, if not given anything, would have to be incarcerated and possibly exterminated at great cost and among great chaos. Hopefully evolution will find another solution. It’s better for the economy to have the poor exist, but in the end, the pressures of great population size may cause all the rules to go out the window.
There’s a story you should write.
~i wouldn’t write a word about the distraction of media hype proclaiming “the pressures of great population”.
The first major step to build a giant Dome of Utopia (the unseen cage) for the American people came in the form of the 16th Amendment (1913) wherein the government and central bankers created the private Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve was the dream of the international central bankers ever since the Constitution was ratified. This was their third attempt to create a private central bank in America and this third attempt has been wildly successful. Using the power of government, the central bankers also created the Internal Revenue Service to collateralize the loans made to the government by the Federal Reserve. Debtor slave Americans were made and debtor slaves we remain today.
Now if you don’t believe in the power of the central bankers and in particular, one central banker family, you are not facing reality. The Rothschild family has owned the central banks of many countries for almost two Centuries.
This is financial and political power beyond anyone’s comprehension and this much power can pull the strings of every country on Earth with little effort. Central bankers love war because it forces governments to borrow more money from central bankers ….. at interest.
With the passing of the 16th Amendment, the first fence of the pig (people) trap had been erected and the pig trough was installed next to the fence. A few curious Americans wandered into the trap and started nibbling at the food in the pig trough. Of course a single fence doesn’t look like a trap, does it? The trap was being laid nevertheless.
The above is from a 4-page article from 2014, on News With Views – Where Reality Shatters Illusion, site, titled; Freedom is a Fading Mirage on a Darkening Horizon, by Ron Edwards. The other 3 sides of the pig pen are in his article. It ends with:
The pig trap now contains all elements to enslave the people of an entire country and enslaved we are without any knowledge of the evil deed having been committed.
BAM
Actually no one is forced to vaccinate their children in California. There is no such law. https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/can-you-legally-be-forced-to-vaccinate-your-child-34431.
What they can’t do is routinely send their unvaccinated children to public schools. If they firmly believe that vaccines are so dangerous, they can home school unimpeded. So this is not really a debate about whether they should have the right to choose vaccination or not. It’s an argument as to whether they have the right to risk others at their discretion. https://www.responsiblehomeschooling.org/policy-issues/current-policy/homeschool-immunization-requirements/
~now we’re back to “Herd immunity”.
Carry on doing the same thing expecting a different result.
No. I firmly hope for the same continuing results- an almost instant cessation of stories about children living in iron lungs, pictures of mothers sitting next to the hospital bed of their child who has measles, swimming pools closed during summer epidemics, school closed, etc. Why even the Mother’s March of Dimes had to rebrand itself when new polio cases suddenly pretty much stopped. Good times indeed.
https://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/nyu-hosts-retrospective-polio-virus-article-1.1985152
https://www.nvic.org/nvic-vaccine-news/november-2014/vaccination–defending-your-right-to-know-and-free.aspx
I think we need you in the anti WAR MOVEMENT. Someone who cares so deeply about protecting all the American children from needless infectious diseases, so they can grow up to enforce the Globalist Agenda at the point of a gun. Not to say they will put a gun and a uniform on, but when we have states looking to pass
Post birth abortions, it really makes you wonder about this culture of ours.
There’s something so incredibly ironic about such a narrow view of children’s health and well being, and that blind acceptance of current vaccination schedules, it really makes me wonder about people’s real priorities.
I think I will call it the Trump Effect. That’s where protesters are themselves so obnoxious, violent, irrational and aggressive that most rational people decide that, even if they have a point worth discussion, it is more dangerous to concede the smallest point in their tirades than to not listen to them at all.
Basically your idea that objecting to war could ever prevent one is unsupportable. Wars are stopped only when their damage makes it unpalatable or, which is historically more likely, when at least one of the parties can’t go on. To prevent war, people need a living memory of its devastation. Once a new generation reaches semi maturity two generations after their ancestors last tasted massive war that was very destructive, they are primed to repeat it. People want to make sure they are the winners over those they dislike and, like vaccinations, they are quite willing to ignore history once they feel safe and can’t identify with the horrors any longer. People who have been made safe for too long think they can’ be harmed.
Guest said “Actually, no one is forced to vaccinate their children in California”.
WRONG.
Read Pan’s bill that passed the senate. Parents have no say, despite their unanimous outcry.
This short but very informative video provides the scoop that every Californian should be aware of. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h-w71EWhGs
For those who don’t like to Listen, here are the readables.
History: https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html
Injurious: https://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/measles/measles-vaccine-injury-death.aspx
3 link limit, will finish in next post if all goes swell.
HPV Fact Sheet: https://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/stdfact-hpv.htm
HPV injurious rate: https://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/hpv/injury-death.aspx
I don’t think much credibility attached to YouTube, which I suppose is about more limiting of exemptions. But I repeat what law? A bill out of one house is not law. The fact still stands that vaccination is only required to attend public school. No public school, no vaccination. So home school.
The other thing that smaks in the face, is why we feel we are so special, that we are “worth” saving.
The planet had a wonderful way of keeping the human life form in a state of balance.
Regardless of your perspective on war or vaccinations, the society and culture is sick and corporations directly contributing to human sickness by producing food that shouldn’t eaten.
Chemicals, heavy metals, pesticides in the name of profit.
You can’t separate sick people from a sick world.
This comes down to unauthorized medical procedures without consent.
If you are gluten intolerant and society forces you to consume gluten….
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“Basically your idea that objecting to war could ever prevent one is unsupportable. Wars are stopped only when their damage makes it unpalatable or, which is historically more likely, when at least one of the parties can’t go on. To prevent war, people need a living memory of its devastation.”
Different solutions for different types of people.
You force the sons and daughters of the elite to sacrifice their kids for corporate wars, you might see a change of heart for the war machine.
People will always die, no one can live forever. Period.
I have a feeling that once we start allowing post birth abortions, we might need to start euthanizing the drug addicted, the feeble, the crippled, and the ones who no longer serve a purpose.
Win win
What does a vaccine DO?
It exposes you to the attenuated, unable to replicate, virus, or bacteria you wish to be immune to, and if it makes you feel “sick”, that is your body’s immune system reacting to the viral antigens, while it is forming antibodies, which give immunity against further exposure.
The preservatives may not be perfect, but the immunology works well. I get sick every time I get the Flu Vaccine, but it’s better than spending time with the flu, which can kill old farts like myself.
Concerns about vaccines are mostly, IMO, unfounded, and if you want to blame autism on something, blame genetics, or a constellation of possible in-utero exposures, as these probably have as much to do with autism as vaccines or anything else… Saying the Amish experience no auitism seems simplistic, they probably just describe it differently, or conceal it, and they could possibly be rather inbred within the group anyway.
Immunology is cool, pretty simple, and the vaccines get safer as time goes by. Taking the vaccines available is a good way to protect your health, and resembles insanity not at all. In fact, of all the forms of medical care available, it is pretty safe, reliable and the risk of harm outweighs most negative perceived effects.
So instead of doing nothing and expecting a good result, we continue to do what we know will work under the circumstances, and we evolve.
Much better than what you have described…
What is a vaccine?
A preparation of weakened or killed pathogens, such as bacteria or virus. Doctors use weakened and/or killed pathogens to introduce into the human body to allegedly produce (i)mmunity to an infectious dis ease. PEOPLE! THE VACCINE IS THE INFECTIOUS DISEASE! The word ‘vaccine’ is rooted in the Latin word ‘vaccnus’ which means cow. So, you are in fact, cowifying yourself, your baby or child. Keep a dictionary close at hand. If your children are supposedly banned from attending the public fool system—-so what? Look around you, there are millions of ‘educated’ adults who are without work. It is the open sore of a cow, infected cows that is used in vaccines. The mucus and pus from the open cow’s sores and lesions, as well as blood. Foreign substances such as dead pathogens or weakened pathogens WILL NOT strengthen any so-called immune system. It will GREATLY impair it.
“We squander health in search of wealth; we work, we toil, we slave.
Then we squander wealth in search of health; and all we get is the grave.
And in between the truth is lost, so simple and so pure – that earth’s prime nutrients
gave us life and shall forever cure.”
“Cowify”
Is this like “Quome”, and do we need a medical dictionary, Kramer?
There is no definition for “cowify”, HumCo.
The way you use the word it may seem like people could turn into cows after a vaccine. Surely you jest?
A not-to-complicated web search with words like, ” History of Vaccines, Origin” reveals this:
Edward Jenner is considered the founder of vaccinology in the West in 1796, after he inoculated a 13 year-old-boy with vaccinia virus (cowpox), and demonstrated immunity to smallpox. In 1798, the first smallpox vaccine was developed
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.immune.org.nz/vaccines/vaccine-development/brief-history-vaccination&ved=2ahUKEwiGs63XmcniAhULXa0KHd_oBRYQFjACegQIERAI&usg=AOvVaw1gZk7GXa7IJNX51q59PWT-
I hope this helps clear things up.
Patience, and persistance.
Obviously, it’s all sorcery! Witches are plotting to – turn us into cows?
This is where I give up, as lapse of reason trumps good sense and science.
I pity you, CH…
I guess making up words time is over.
Bye, HumCo
Barbara Loe Fisher
https://www.nvic.org/nvic-vaccine-news/november-2014/vaccination–defending-your-right-to-know-and-free.aspx
Sid,
I don’t get yearly flu vaccines! (Gasps)
But I’m not here telling people that a vaccine “cowifys” people.
I also know the Earth is round. I know lasers didn’t start the Camp/Carr fires. And I can tell you when I’m wrong.
Know your company. Your name is all you got. Shak and HumCo haven’t learned this yet. They poopoo all over themselves constantly.
It’s nice of me to point it out too.
“”We’re supposed to have a citizen government… What we have is an entrenched bureaucracy of people who think they know better than all the citizens in the country.”
-Sydney Powell
(she could have said planet instead of country, because parents are fighting this same mandate across the globe).
http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160SB277
California: Outbreak of Whooping Cough Affects 30 Students at Private School, All of Them Vaccinated
https://needtoknow.news/2019/06/california-outbreak-of-whooping-cough-affects-30-students-at-private-school-all-of-them-vaccinated/