Creating Community: The Women’s March Is Still On, Say Current Organizers

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Youth marching and chanting in the Eureka Women’s March January 2017. [Photo by Lynae McCarthy]

“We didn’t want there to be any confusion,” said Kathy Srabian who is helping put together the January 19, 2019 Eureka Women’s March. “There is still a Woman’s March.” She said that the announcement yesterday by the previous organizers of a march that they choose to boycott the January 19th march left some people thinking there would be no march in Eureka.

“We’re worried that people will think that the march is cancelled again,” Srabian said. “It is not. It is still happening.”

Srabian says she “totally respects” the former organizers’ decision not to be involved in this “but many of the 5000 people in the street last year would like to come out in the street again. We want to provide space for them.”

With the original permit holder Linda Atkins having a heart attack and with a short time to prepare, the main focus is going to be on the community of women, men, and children experiencing the joy of being together, Srabian said.

She said last year she enjoyed seeing all the young women. “They were all kinda strutting,” she said softly. “They had their hats and their signs. They were all feeling strong.”

The plan is to have a short 15 minute period which will open with a Native American blessing and then some very short speeches, Srabian explained. Then the march, the togetherness, will begin.

“The march will go on,” she said. “There are not many voices who want this boycotted. In 2017, we had 8000 in the street.” This year, the people who want to be there will be there for the strength gained in community, she explained. The people who don’t want to be there, won’t.

“Some people think about the march that you doing your thing hurts me,” she added. “No, it doesn’t.”

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Willie Caso-Mayhem
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5 years ago

🕯I’m a man my voice in this category does and doesn’t carry any sway but I feel if you go out then you have the right to speak your right know matter what race,we are all human.🖖

'Merican Woman
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'Merican Woman
5 years ago

Please join us. If you believe women are human, you belong in this march😊

M T
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M T
5 years ago
Reply to  'Merican Woman

Not even going to waste my time, I am Woman and I feel you are all an embarrassment to Woman Kind parading your P*@@$ around on a sign? Or in Costume?

J Dubbs
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J Dubbs
5 years ago
Reply to  M T

Thank you. This is so ridiculous

just me
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just me
5 years ago

there is a god. big rain on the 19th. to bad. lol

Phyllis
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Phyllis
5 years ago

I sure hope this mess didn’t cause Linda Adkins to have a heart attack, she stood up to the plate to ensure that this march happens. Kudos, Linda and thank you. Shame on the original organizers.. This whole mess has been a black eye for the community, an embarrassment for our county . Everyone should ban together for the cause and leave race out of it.

Willie caos- mayhem
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5 years ago
Reply to  Phyllis

🕯👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

Joe Dirt
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Joe Dirt
5 years ago

One thing this is well covered on the redheaded Blackbelt pussy hats flippy floppies maybe we should have women’s marches 4 times a year on Wednesday so we could get the day off we could declare a national holiday if we could find two more groups that disagree white women’s March multi-ethnic women’s March transgender and gay women’s March and women’s march with no women March divide and conquer

onlooker
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onlooker
5 years ago
Reply to  Phyllis

A different point of view: the people who had been organizing the previous Women’s Marches decided that they, personally, could not move forward as they had in the past. They decided to change their approach. Things seem to have become very complex. Kudos to them for their sensitivity and their decision to create an event that is more inclusive and deliberately planned to include issues of great importance to our community (even if it dilutes the impact of a Women’s March and a direct rejection of the violent sexism of Trump and his henchmen). Kudos to those who stepped into the breach and enabled a March supporting women and opposing Trump.

It’s a bummer that the original organizers of the Women’s March have decided to boycott a public demonstration that supports women and opposes Trump. I doubt that they will lead the planning of future Women’s March events. But the event that they are planning, to take place on International Women’s Day, will hopefully include and honor the full spectrum of cultures in our area, and give a platform for issues of importance in our community which as mothers, sisters and daughters, we stand in solidarity with the oppressed and bereaved members of our society.

I hope that we can all remember that conflict, while uncomfortable, is an opportunity for each of us to explore our own limitations and expand our thinking. I hope we don’t have to boycott a good thing because it isn’t entirely what we want. There’s not a single one of us who is all right or victimized to an eextent that justifies harming someone else.

tax payer
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tax payer
5 years ago
Reply to  onlooker

an issue of importance to our community should be to find and prosecute those [edit] who almost beat to death Kyle Zoellner

Huh?
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Huh?
5 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

Pay attention. Stop trolling.

tax payer
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tax payer
5 years ago
Reply to  Huh?

maybe you dont follow local news… but i do, and Kyle almost was killed by his attackers. one of whom was Josiah and his friends, and Kyle was the one who went to jail while they let the killer run free. if they were going to find justice it would have to start with making Kyle whole while trying to find the [edit] who beat him up

tax payer
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tax payer
5 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

and i am not suggesting the murderer should not pay for his murder

tax payer
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tax payer
5 years ago
Reply to  Huh?

Kym did a big edit on my comment. facts are facts

tax payer
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tax payer
5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

sorry Kym i think i was thinking of a previous thread on this same subject

Mdg
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Mdg
5 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

Why does this have anything to do with the woman’s march? Why lose sleep over Kyle? If he’s guilty, which he probably is, he will eventually be caught. The arc of justice is long…. now back to topic.

Health is your first million
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Health is your first million
5 years ago
Reply to  Phyllis

Last year’s march was an embarrassment. No clear agenda and much of their “marginalized” claims are 100% bogus.

I suggest they march for Women’s Health, specifically for stemming the tide of heart disease which is the number one killer of women, and is the cause of one of every two deaths in USA today.

Women are fat. (65% obesity rate) and sick.

Unmarginalize YOURSELVES by putting down the SAD (Standard American Diet.)

Linda’s heart attack was not caused by all this goofy girl drama, it was likely brought on by high cholesterol, high fat, animal-based, calorie dense, nutrient lean food choices. The same choices women everywhere make everyday, and end up sick, disabled, compromised and often dead from.

No one will march for that tho…Because bacon.

Ellen
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Ellen
5 years ago

Victim blaming is so ugly.

It should be said that there are other things that contribute to heart attacks too, including pollution caused by wood stoves. If you want to reduce heart attack rates in Humboldt County, lobbying for clean air would be a good place to start.
https://www.mcgill.ca/newsroom/channels/news/woodstoves-are-good-soul-bad-heart-266643

Huh?
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Huh?
5 years ago
Reply to  Ellen

Men are fat too. Like the fat fascist in the W.H. eating cheeseburgers in bed.

Your 1st million $$
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Your 1st million $$
5 years ago
Reply to  Ellen

If course no one is ever to blame if they suffer a cardiovascular event! Our culture of high consumption and low activity and our collective ignorance and disregard of our own bodies is to blame . … But woodstoves!

It is said that there are two kinds of cardiologist: vegans, and those that haven’t done the research .

Seems to me if it were a MEN’S March the same could be said: Men ARE FAT (50% obesity rate) and SICK. But men aren’t the discussion here are they?

Dan F
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Dan F
5 years ago
Reply to  Phyllis

Not a shred of doubt period!!!

Joe Dirt
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Joe Dirt
5 years ago
Reply to  Dan F

High fructose corn syrup and sugar food preservatives some of these are petroleum-based products nitrates leave the bacon out of it yum pork bellies are one of the most important Commodities in the stock market but I guess if you are a Jew it could be your downfall cooking bacon is one of the best smelling Foods ever cooked and I don’t think it was fair that they made that rule in their religion

Muddy Black Dodge
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Muddy Black Dodge
5 years ago

Good on you Willie…😁

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago

Muddy, I really liked your comment on the last article re this march. Where you said you were going to support your niece, mom, grandma, etc.

Willie, I like your thoughts above.

Have a great march!!!!!

MARK NEWCOMB
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MARK NEWCOMB
5 years ago

Does this “Women’s March” allow for Trans-gendered people and those who “Identify” as a Women to attend?

March!
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March!
5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

That is accurate, Kym. Everyone!

J Dubbs
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J Dubbs
5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Of course, but if it gets to whitish…….it may be canceled. TIA

'Merican Woman
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'Merican Woman
5 years ago
Reply to  MARK NEWCOMB

Please please march with us. Your presence is valued

Gma
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Gma
5 years ago
Reply to  MARK NEWCOMB

Yes yes yes

stuber
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stuber
5 years ago

Everything that the marchers want they have. All the freedoms and opportunities are open for them. They can be or do anything they want, start a business, become a race driver, architect, engineer, anything. How about they use their energy to help the poor. Like the Red Cross. Now those people, along with other Christian organizations, actually do something to help people. They relieve suffering, hunger, and despair in their communities. How much suffering, hunger, and despair is relieved by this or any other march? 0. So while these people are out shouting and disrupting, there are people who are working with the suffering to help them.

Central HumCo
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5 years ago
Reply to  stuber

“Like the Red Cross. Now those people, along with other Christian organizations, actually do something to help people.”

Wonder where the “Red Cross” was/is for the victims in Paradise?

Maybe having a brewski at the pub across from the CalFire offices – that still remain.

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

In Chico Dumbass

I like stars
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I like stars
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Central HumCo living in your head.

Is it nice to call someone a dumbass?

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

I wanted to delete it, but I had gone passed the edit-time.

… it breaks rules and puts Kym to work.

Sorry.

https://krcrtv.com/news/camp-fire/camp-fire-shelter-or-homeless-encampment-red-cross-still-sheltering-hundreds-in-chico

Jaekelopterus
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Jaekelopterus
5 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

HumCo, you lie so often, I really do not think it is an insult or exaggeration to call you a liar.
http://www.plumasnews.com/camp-fire-evacuees-find-respite-at-fairgrounds-red-cross-shelter/

You’re a {edit]

LostCoastEMP
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LostCoastEMP
5 years ago

Sooooo what are privileged American women marching against? I’m still confused…🧐

Y Knot?
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Y Knot?
5 years ago
Reply to  LostCoastEMP

They’re trying to find identity I guess…

M T
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M T
5 years ago
Reply to  Y Knot?

Sure, Identity That’s it ?????

Mdg
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Mdg
5 years ago
Reply to  Y Knot?

If it makes you feel better have a grumpy ol man March. Most of the posters here would identify I’m sure.

KM
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KM
5 years ago
Reply to  LostCoastEMP

If you don’t know why you should march, consider this. As of Monday, employers in 37 states are no longer mandated by law to provide birth control coverage for their workers, thanks to new rules rolled out by the Trump administration.

Willie caos- mayhem
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5 years ago
Reply to  KM

Not so court over ruled it.

My2Cents
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My2Cents
5 years ago
Reply to  KM

Wait so people have to personally responsible for the actions they take in their bedrooms? Say it ain’t so!

Jody
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Jody
5 years ago
Reply to  My2Cents

The march is about humankind showing compassion, support, and understanding for others. The only way to save this world, is by supporting anyone that is willing to show a little kindness.

Steve Parr
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Steve Parr
5 years ago
Reply to  KM

Never did fully understand why an employer should be responsible for reigning in his female employees’ fecundity in the first place.

I’d say something about ‘with responsibilities come rights’, but that’d put me right in the crosshairs, wouldn’t it?

Esme
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Esme
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Parr

Yet Viagra for men is still covered… Curious.

Steve Parr
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Steve Parr
5 years ago
Reply to  Esme

I’ll not argue the sense of that with you, but just because one foolish thing is done doesn’t mean all foolish things must be done.

I wouldn’t want to pay for either.

Guest who?
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Guest who?
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Parr

Look at it this way, for a moment if you would….female fecundity is not a condition, it is a product of evolutionary biology. So is rape.
It is society that is attempting to create a construct whereby rape, or its lesser, but often similar equivalents, does not determine the outcome of coitus.
Birth CONTROL!
Males have it in force. Contrary to some conservatives fantasies, females cannot reject sperm, just ’cause it’s rape, or they don’t want a baby.
Birth control, available by any means, gives females control of their own bodies, whether it’s provided by their insurer, mandated by the state, or by the knife she cut your cock off with before plunging it in you.
That said, doesn’t it sound more civil to include it in healthcare?
Should her employer pay for it?
NO! But that’s part of another argument about a fucked up system you are only inartfully pushing to the dark side. You are more than that!
Lighten up and march with your sisters!
Your disingenuity is showing.

Dunewalker
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Dunewalker
5 years ago
Reply to  KM

My 2 beers a day probably cost more than most birth control methods. Take responsibility for your own needs.

J Dubbs
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J Dubbs
5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Indeed but let’s not force people at gun point to offer it on a policy. No one says you have to work at any particular business. Let the bad word of mouth dictate weather they succeed. We wouldn’t think of forcing a muslim bakery, for instance, to bake a gay themed wedding cake now would we? No. Just as an aside, government is not inherently a force for good in society.

Guest who?
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Guest who?
5 years ago
Reply to  J Dubbs

Health care should NOT be the purview of employers. That it is is an artifact of tax law. America fucked it up. The rest of the planet has gotten it right.
There is no shame in admitting it.
Plenty of shame to spare in our steadfast support of a healthcare “system” that is so patently fucked up.
Your rhetoric about forcing people at gunpoint is supporting that and fractious , at best.

Dunewalker
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Dunewalker
5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym, lots of things “look pretty darn cheap” when someone else is paying for them.

tax payer
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tax payer
5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym choices have consequences. if you dont want to get pregnant dont have sex or pay for your own birth control. its a totally preventable problem. if you dont want a headache dont bang your head on a wall.

Steve Parr
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Steve Parr
5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

This is in reply to your comment below, Kym, (which has no reply function) in which you state that as a society we are responsible for mitigating other’s bad choices, i.e. providing them with birth control if we think they would be bad parents.

Why not sterilization, then? Isn’t that what birth control is, a temporary sterilization? If we as a society are so sure about who deserves to be a parent, and not, don’t we have a responsibility to make sure the unfit ones never bring a child into this world?

That’s where your argument leads, but even if you accept that premise, why should an employer have to pay for it? If it’s such a societal benefit, give ’em out at the Health Dept.

Guest who?
Guest
Guest who?
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Parr

Typical male conservative pap!
You assume there is a choice made where a woman, in any situation, has parity with a man.
Nice world you live in, bubble man!
March in the rain with your sisters, and …
Ah, forget it…
Too late.

Not at my place
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Not at my place
5 years ago
Reply to  KM

And why should they? Not their place to maintain YOUR reproductive health. That’s on you.

Jaekelopterus
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Jaekelopterus
5 years ago

Why stop there? Outlaw dental insurance! Why should I pay for your candy habit? And who needs social security? Old People don’t even work unless you force them to!

tax payer
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tax payer
5 years ago
Reply to  Jaekelopterus

dental insurance is not mandatory. do you see the difference. plus candy is not the only way you get teeth problems. one of the most detrimental thing to teeth is malnutrition

Jaekelopterus
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Jaekelopterus
5 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

If employers can pick and choose what insurence they think their employees deserve, don’t think that it will stop at reproductive care.

“one of the most detrimental thing to teeth is malnutrition”

Good thing Trump is cutting WIC, too!

Dr Do-little
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Dr Do-little
5 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

And METH!!

J Dubbs
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J Dubbs
5 years ago
Reply to  KM

Women: *adjusts pussy hat shrieking* Stay out of my vagina. Also women: Pay for my birth control, my abortions, and my gender reassignment surgery, you misogynistic patriarchal pigs!

tax payer
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tax payer
5 years ago
Reply to  J Dubbs

perfect. just like Amy Schumer. dont forget people that want you to pay for their health care but dont want you to say anything about their obesity

'Merican Woman
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'Merican Woman
5 years ago
Reply to  LostCoastEMP

We are marching FOR our common humanity.

LostCoastEMP
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LostCoastEMP
5 years ago
Reply to  'Merican Woman

Right. And if a straight white male marches, he is a sexist,capitalist,Nazi pig. No. It’s not for common humanity. Someone’s pissed that trump got elected. Plain n simple. It’s a march of anger

ESFOAD
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ESFOAD
5 years ago

I’m not completely educated on what this women’s marche is about. I do have a question: why was a March canceled because the committee was” overwhelmingly White” ??? Is it not okay to be white?

tax payer
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tax payer
5 years ago
Reply to  ESFOAD

that is the haters march. it comes in March

Steve Parr
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Steve Parr
5 years ago
Reply to  ESFOAD

Third time’s a charm!

marche…

March…

tax payer
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tax payer
5 years ago

so the way i read it is that this is the non-boycott march

ESFOAD
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ESFOAD
5 years ago

I hope there is no insinuation that I am a hater, I am not.

Mike
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Mike
5 years ago

Who has a outside march in the middle of January? ” we are women, what do we want? umbrellas!”

tax payer
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tax payer
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

March for Life 2019 – January 18, 2019
Washington, D.C.

one of the biggest marches every year and never covered by the MSM

Jaekelopterus
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Jaekelopterus
5 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

Forced pregnancy is sex slavery.

Be responsible
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Be responsible
5 years ago
Reply to  Jaekelopterus

Nobody forced you to get pregnant. Quit giving it up to everyone that bats an eye at you.

LostCoastEMP
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LostCoastEMP
5 years ago
Reply to  Be responsible

Forced pregnancy?? Like the new mad max movie? Turn all children into slaves and sell mothers milk for a profit!

Jaekelopterus
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Jaekelopterus
5 years ago
Reply to  Be responsible

Rape exists.

tax payer
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tax payer
5 years ago
Reply to  Jaekelopterus

so does birth control

Eric Kirk
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Eric Kirk
5 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

Which most of the life marchers oppose too.

Guest who?
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Guest who?
5 years ago
Reply to  Be responsible

Dick move!#1!
Go again, it’s your turn [edit]!

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
5 years ago

‘In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.’

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Not always true.

Just look at the individual known as HumCo’s comments. (Flat earth, etc)

Then think of 5 people just like him together. Keep multiplying. That’s Trumps base.

I think a different group would do him good.

Many animals work well in groups. Elephants protect young from lions, whales talk to each other and work together, ants are taking over the world, etc…

Personally, I havn’t marched since Iraq invasion ( oh, later the bank bailouts brought me to federal reserve in SF). I was shouting outside the White House with Cindy Sheehan and 20 other strong souls (Gold Star families) when Rumsfeld got the boot in Nov. ’06. It was awesome.

To “assemble” and protest is more important and fundamental to change in our government than a gun ever will be.

I’ll be honest, I’m not completely supportive of every LGBTQ concept, but I wish the PEOPLE the best on their march.

CRUSH IT.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

This quote is specifically directed to us monkeys.

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

I assumed so, because so far, the other animal groups havnt given us any quotes to exploit.

Not that they don’t have wisdom to learn from, it’s just that we don’t listen.

I like stars
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I like stars
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Is HumCo living in your head? Seems you’ve become a bit obsessed.

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Surely, if someone kept insulting fire trauma victims that you know, endlessly, with demonstrably false info, you might give a shit too.

I do think false info is the biggest threat to our country, cyber security doesn’t just mean blocking your porn adverts.

We lost America to Russia in the last election if you havnt been paying attention. We lost the cyber security war brah.

We are infected with designed disinfo, HumCo is our biggest local threat. But he thinks he’s doing you a favor.

I like stars
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I like stars
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Now who sounds like he needs a tin foil hat?

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

You?

Erik
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Erik
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Russia? Please cite your sources. NATO / Atlantic council propaganda.

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  Erik
Erik
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Erik
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

With all due respect, every time I dig into this story it falls apart. Do I think Russia is pure? Of course not. But I fear Israel and Saudi Arabia far more, and China too. But these are our “partners” in one way or another, whether a cheap source of manufacturing labor or oil or being a cop for or neocon power ambitions in the middle east. Russia refuses to open their markets to the wests banking cartels, and every country that does that falls into our crosshairs. I have no doubt Trump and others have dodgy business dealings in Russia and China and other countries that should be disclosed, unfortunately that’s par for the course in our revolving door, pro business government.

https://theintercept.com/2017/09/28/yet-another-major-russia-story-falls-apart-is-skepticism-permissible-yet/

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  Erik

Actually, I agree Saudi Arabia is a very big threat.

Next would be Alex Jones extremists. We are eating ourselves from within with the idiocy that heads to the polls.

But I think Russia has been at work, it seems the social media misinfo influence was quite large in minority groups for 2016. Seems quite documented.

But, I also have limited interest, bandwith, connection and patience to be an expert on current Russian CounterIntel programs.

I think they’ve already indicted Trump and it’s sealed. He’ll be arrested his 1st day out of office.

**The Glenn Greenwald article addresses the story of elections hacking. This of course is different than what happened o YouTube and Facebook, Instagram, etc.
But thanks for that Glenn article.

xray
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xray
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Oh yeah; Putin in Trumps ear, “lower taxes, bust the pedofiles, reduce federal government”

Jaekelopterus
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Jaekelopterus
5 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Its tough to miss HumCo’s continual off-topic InfoWars text-dumps. There’s one at the bottom of the page right now,

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

If you are so perturbed with “HumCo’s” comments, refute them with cited facts and let the wisdom of Kym’s readers determine the truth for themselves. If you don’t want to bother with a rational, counter-argument I suggest ignoring the comment. Ad hominem attacks detract more from the attacker than from those they are trying to attack.

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

I’ve done this.

You’ve surely seen it.

Then he keeps going with 30 more insults and lies on 10 other threads. Reiterating lies I just provided links for to prove false on the last thread.

I’m glad you guys think Im the issue. At least I got attention on the matter.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Then ignore the comments. It’s that simple.

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

I’m sure we could pit “ignoring” obvious wrongs vs. “acting” against them.

The examples change through time, and hindsight is clear.

Surely it’s not right to ignore Physical abuse against the weak, so why is it OK to tolerate Mental abuse?

Stop ignoring obvious problems!

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

The only mental abuse online, in this case, is self-inficted.

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

You’re wearing blinders and your not empathetic to the trauma of deadly fires if that’s what you think.

Spreading demonstrably false info regarding the loss of a friend, loved one, or 86 people in your community, or 15,000 houses is absolute abuse.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
5 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Brian- it has nothing to do with empathy. The idea that you can badger someone into changing their mind online, in the comment section of a news site, is foolish. A rational, counter argument with cited facts will allow those with empathy to pursue your line of thought and learn for themselves.

Brian
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Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

I agree with you.

Debating HumCo is pointless. If someone won’t admit when they’re wrong, what can you do?

I’ve debated things with you, we ended cordially.

I took issue with Shak for his lasers and media tinting positions. He also linked to some pretty openly bigoted authors. I did my best to counter with facts links and my POV.

But what HumCo does is far beyond any of that.

It’s gross.

At this point I’m just bringing attention to the problem that is HumCo.

And yes, there is empathy behind my actions. I’m glad you don’t have the relations to trauma that I have. I understand they don’t have a voice in Paradise.

*I dont think I am, but maybe I’m totally wrong. I’ll just sit back for a bit. It’s not fun for me anyhow. It’s just needed.

Dunewalker
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Dunewalker
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

The 2nd amendment ensures the preservation of the 1st amendment.

Jaekelopterus
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Jaekelopterus
5 years ago
Reply to  Dunewalker

We haven’t secured our free state with a well regulated militia since the 1800’s. We have used a professional military for quite some time, as does every other first-world nation.

Brian
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5 years ago
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Really? What would you use as an example?

It’s easy to see: we go to court and use words to settle all things amendments related.

We don’t go to the OK corral to shoot each other in order to see who was correct.

Jaekelopterus
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Jaekelopterus
5 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

That’s why people kept in solitary confinement are such stable geniuses. /s

Johnny Reb
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5 years ago

Hate on! No room in any leftist hate gathering for patriots, conservatives, supporters of the president, anti-crime advocates, anti-drug citizens, middle of the road voters, pro-life, pro family, etc. This is a Clintonian expression of hippie era primitivism masked as politically correct politics.

Jaekelopterus
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5 years ago
Reply to  Johnny Reb

Have you ever seen a conservative march 8000 strong in Humboldt?

Eric Kirk
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5 years ago
Reply to  Jaekelopterus

I’ve never seen a conservative march 8000 strong anywhere outside of Washington DC since the Civil Rights Era when they showed up to scare kids away from schools.

tax payer
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tax payer
5 years ago
Reply to  Eric Kirk

we dont need to and we dont scare kids. maybe lefties can learn something from this lesson

tax payer
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tax payer
5 years ago
Reply to  Eric Kirk

we showed up to vote for the President of the United States of America, President Trump. way better than a pointless march

Jaekelopterus
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Jaekelopterus
5 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

Humboldt went Bernie, then it went Hillary. California went Hillary. The Nation went Hillary.

The Electoral College voted Trump in.

Central HumCo
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5 years ago

Below is a summary of the main points of Saul Alinsky’s main publication, Rules for Radicals. The Clintons, especially Hillary, and Soetoro/Obama were stanch supporters of Alinsky’s philosophy, and no doubt many other political people.

The summary, in the first paragraph below, explains how they create a symbol, in the sense of a representation of a community, and then they create an enemy, so there can be constant animosity between the two sides.

Our entire political, and hence, social system, works to create constant dissention and violence using Alinsky’s model, and this model is based on the Hegelian Dialectic, where you keep everybody in the community, province, state, county, etc. fighting against an enemy, an enemy which the government, politician, whatever, creates. This is the old ‘divide and conquer’ technique.

Just look at how effectively this is being done in America and Canada over immigration, racial issues, gender issues, etc. The main stream media is the means of maintaining this destructive atmosphere.

The issue over the ‘Wall’ seems like the best example of ‘direct action’ that we have seen since the racial violence in the sixties. Ya gotta’ hand it to them; they are consistently effective . . .

Rules for Radicals has various themes. Among them is his use of symbol construction to strengthen the unity within an organization. He would draw on loyalty to a particular church or religious affiliation to create a structured organization with which to operate. The reason being that symbols by which communities could identify themselves created structured organizations that were easier to mobilize in implementing direct action. Once the community was united behind a common symbol, Alinsky would find a common enemy for the community to be united against.

The use of common enemy against a community was another theme of Rules for Radicals, as a uniting element in communities. Alinsky would find an external antagonist to turn into a “common enemy” for the community within which he was operating. Often, this would be a local politician or agency that had some involvement with activity concerning the community. Once the enemy was established, the community would come together in opposition of it. This management of conflict heightened awareness within the community as to the similarities its members shared as well as what differentiated them from those outside of their organization. The use of conflict also allowed for the goal of the group to be clearly defined. With an established external antagonist, the community’s goal would be to defeat that enemy.

Symbol construction helped to promote structured organization, which allowed for nonviolent conflict through another element in Alinsky’s teaching, direct action. Direct action created conflict situations that further established the unity of the community and promoted the accomplishment of achieving the community’s goal of defeating their common enemy. It also brought issues the community was battling to the public eye. Alinsky encouraged over-the-top public demonstrations throughout Rules for Radicals that could not be ignored, and these tactics enabled his organization to progress their goals faster than through normal bureaucratic processes.

Lastly, the main theme throughout Rules for Radicals and Alinsky’s work was empowerment of the poor. Alinsky used symbol construction and nonviolent conflict to create a structured organization with a clearly defined goal that could take direct action against a common enemy. At this point, Alinsky would withdraw from the organization to allow their progress to be powered by the community itself. This empowered the organizations to create change.

Jaekelopterus
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5 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Please knock it off with these Gish-Gallop off-topic text dumps.

Eric Kirk
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5 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Rules for Radicals is one of those obscure books written by a leftist which is known more by people on the right because it’s seen as the left Bible. I used to have a copy. It may be in a box somwhere.

Adios women
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Adios women
5 years ago

I attended the prior Marches. I participated for all people. Not only women. I was proud to March with all these other people who I thought felt the same as I. I thought we were attempting to make a difference. What happened? The local organizers and it appears the National organizers are imploding. Becoming a parody of what they marched and stood for. Very sad. But I guess in retrospect predictable. This is what our society has become. Polarizing! I thank Linda Atkins et al for stepping in to continue with the March, but to me, it has lost its purpose. Now the original March Organizers are protesting the second group. Way to go on solidarity women. What a mess. I’m no longer going to participate in the March whether in January and certainly not in March. I’m just disgusted with the whole mess. Some of you people need to be ashamed of yourselves. Who do you represent?

March on Saturday Jan 19
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March on Saturday Jan 19
5 years ago
Reply to  Adios women

http://www.womensmarch.com is where it began and where it is now. Mistakes are made, problems occur. The very scope of the mission is massive. There are bound to be differences, complaints, lessons learned. The national organizers explain this on their website. But to tell people aggressively to boycott the march crosses a very distinct line. It is divisive and benefits no-one.

THE WOMEN’S MARCH 2019 in EUREKA IS ON!! SATURDAY JANUARY 19. GATHER AT NOON AT 1ST AND C STREET FOR A SHORT RALLY, beginning with a prayer by local indigenous people. THEN MARCH TO THE CARSON MANSION AND BACK. BRING SIGNS. BRING PEACE AND RECONCILIATION!

Eyeball Kid
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Eyeball Kid
5 years ago

Using the word “lastly” is an indicator that someone has too much to say.

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5 years ago
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Brian
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5 years ago
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I hope people read that quick description in the link. Thanks.

I think it’s a better way to follow up on a HumCo comment. Much easier.

Jaekelopterus
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5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Have you checked in on the Willow Creek Fire story comments lately? He and Shak are decoding ancient Sumerian tablets over there!

M T
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M T
5 years ago

I sure hope you don’t get too wet~!!!!! TLOL 😉

J Dubbs
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J Dubbs
5 years ago

This is still a thing? Let’s see, you people applauded when they took a MAN (Bruce Jenner) and pandered to HIS unfortunate personal delusion and a surgical team with a MALE surgeon altered HIS MANHOOD thereby turning HIM into a MAN MADE quasi woman. Then you put HIM on a pedestal at an award show and awarded HIM woman of the year…OVER OTHER ACTUAL/NATURAL FEMALE CONTESTANTS. So no, your cause is severely diminished with a loss of credibility. Hope this helps

M T
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M T
5 years ago
Reply to  J Dubbs

not woman of the year to everyone indeed!!! What a Joke!!!

Coletta
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Coletta
5 years ago

The real meaning of this march has been long lost. This is just more proof of that. I wouldn’t be seen in this Hot SJW Mess.

shak
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shak
5 years ago

I don’t know which is more confusing, this march or this article.
My head is reeling.
https://www.colormatters.com/color-and-design/are-black-and-white-colors

Jaekelopterus
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5 years ago
Reply to  shak

White and black are achromatic colors. They lack hue, but they are assuredly colors.

Erik
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Erik
5 years ago
Reply to  Jaekelopterus

Good answer. Black absorbs all color, so all color is present but not perceptible, all color is present in white, but the hues are also not perceptible to our elemental eyes. Color has no fixed self nature, it is a coming together of various interdependent phenomena and our concepts about that phenomena, all inseparable and mutually self-reinforcing.

tax payer
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tax payer
5 years ago

by the way Kym there are no Trump policies that are against women so you are responsible for fake news or do you blame the poster. you did not say anything against their lies against President Trump

Jaekelopterus
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5 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

How about 100 reasons?

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/women/reports/2017/04/25/430969/100-days-100-ways-trump-administration-harming-women-families/

Since I’m sure you don’t have time to respond to all of them, how about cuts to military child care and WIC? How about cuts to sex education and the domestic violence hotline? How about removing the requirement that insurers cover domestic violence screenings?

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5 years ago
Reply to  Jaekelopterus

ok number one. this is not against women. this is just a rule Zero made up to make employers pay a minimum salary wage. this is regulation for businesses who hire managers to have to pay them more. it is for salary workers.

A salary is a form of payment from an employer to an employee, which may be specified in an employment contract. It is contrasted with piece wages, where each job, hour or other unit is paid separately, rather than on a periodic basis.

did you know that paperboys make less than minimum wage. this is because of a contract made by the paperboy to the newspaper company. so please tip your paperboy if you dont

Brian
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5 years ago
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Support for the president among women in their demographic group dropped from 73% to 67% from 2017 to 2018, according to Pew Research Center (in data they have yet to publish). Support for the president among white evangelical men dropped too, from 84-79%
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Evangelical women support Trump “because it’s what we’ve been socialised to do”, says Quintero – this means “placing your own well-being below the idea of stopping abortion”.

Many don’t like the way the president talks about women but support his conservative policies, she says.
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Pickard’s grandfather gave her a Winchester rifle when she was in middle school, she tells me, and she grew up listening to Sean Hannity on her dad’s car radio.

Despite her conservative upbringing, she’s planning to vote for a Democrat, Tim Kaine, a Virginia senatorial candidate, instead of Stewart. “I’d like to vote for someone who won’t embarrass us,” Pickard says. Quintero says she’s also voting for Kaine.

http://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-45956033

Brian
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5 years ago
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This is what rape culture looks like – in the words of Donald Trump:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/15/donald-trump-words-what-rape-culture-looks-like

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5 years ago
Reply to  Jaekelopterus

ok number two. there is nothing in this news story that says anything about Trump being responsible for what the VA decides, but just for you i actually did a little research even though you clearly did not read the one hundred fake reasons why you hate President Trump. more of the orange man bad syndrome. here is a usa today story about how Trump has actually done a whole lot for the VA

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/11/16/va-secretary-president-trump-has-kept-his-promises-editorials-debates/2026364002/

VA secretary: President Trump has kept his promises

The facts are clear: No president has done more in two years to strengthen our military and reform the Department of Veterans Affairs to better serve our nation’s heroes than President Donald Trump.

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5 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

That’s an opinion piece from Trump’s own VA secretary, and it goes out of its way to emphasize that Trump is responsible for VA decisions. I didn’t see anything about family care in that article.

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5 years ago
Reply to  Jaekelopterus

number three. pay transparency. are you kidding? if i have a worker that works harder i should be able to pay him more and i shouldnt have to tell the other worker they dont make as much as him. its called capitalism. its like i saw this poor guy working at the supermarket and he was trying to bag groceries and he was having a really hard time. its a shame they even hired him in the first place. the guy was getting very frustrated at his job and he quit after a very short time. did you see him? the poor guy had one arm and yes they hired him to bag groceries. it was sad watching him try to put groceries into a cloth grocery bag. no everybody is not the same, deal with it. this was not done to hurt women this was a rollback of the “O”bama over regulation that slows things down and makes them cost more

“This rule… has the very real potential of subjecting perfectly innocent contractors to blackmail and extortion tactics during union contract negotiations,” said Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., chairman of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, in the run-up to the vote. “As if the blackmail potential of the rule isn’t enough, the Obama administration admitted that the final rule would cost at least $398 million to comply with every single year.”

Jaekelopterus
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5 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

You’re gonna go through all 100? Okay, you don’t like pay transparency. I do. Make organizing labor easier.

tax payer
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5 years ago
Reply to  Jaekelopterus

number five. A Department of Defense memo implementing the hiring freeze exempted certain classes of civilian workers, including “child care to the children of military personnel.” But another memo from the Army required special permission from the service secretary before filing the positions.

umm the army always requires a form or “special permission” for everything. and it was only two bases that couldnt figure out how to get things done. it sounds like someone at the two bases didnt know how to do their job or they didnt want to just to make a news story that is a nothing burger

Jaekelopterus
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5 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

Its not a “nothing burger,” its a hiring freeze that’s still effect.

tax payer
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tax payer
5 years ago
Reply to  Jaekelopterus

the WIC issue i dont think you understand. that was a proposed budget. it would not have cut any of the assistance to the people. it was suggesting food boxes of food grown and produced in the usa. it still would have left people with money on a card but it would have been subsidized with food boxes and it wasnt a ‘cut’ it was saving money by combining two agencies and if anyone was going to get a cut it was the farmers not getting subsidies for farming or not farming (it was about price fixing)

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5 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

I don’t think YOU understand, proposed budgets get approved and become REAL budgets.

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hmm
5 years ago
Reply to  tax payer

The news that the somewhat less crazy liberals are still having a march is not fake news. Kym is doing good local jurnalism.

tax payer
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tax payer
5 years ago
Reply to  hmm

sorry i wasnt clear i wasnt saying that the march was fake news i was actually responding to the wrong thread, i meant the thread about the marchers who want people to boycott this march and they said in their statement about Trump was false. ” resist President Trump’s sexist and racist practices and policies”

Orwell
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Orwell
5 years ago

Isn’t it being run by racist anti semites? I believe the march is allied with farrakan

Orwell
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Orwell
5 years ago

I believe the march is allied with Louis F.