Honsal Talks Sanctuary Law, ICE Enforcement and What Humboldt Can Expect

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As immigration enforcement becomes a flashpoint across the country, the conversation has shifted from national headlines to Humboldt County neighborhoods and council meetings.
In response to protests, community concern and a recent letter from the Eureka Police Chief about potential ICE activity, Sheriff William Honsal spoke to Redheaded Blackbelt about sanctuary law, local authority and what residents can expect if federal immigration agents operate here.
Honsal began by addressing a common misunderstanding: that sanctuary status prevents federal immigration enforcement from happening in Humboldt County.
“Sanctuary laws … do not give a protective cloak around Humboldt County for people that are …in the country without permission, … it’s still a federal law violation,” Honsal said. “The executive branch, the Immigration Customs…have orders to take people in custody…that don’t have permission to be here in America, right? So, they’re doing their job, so to speak.”
What sanctuary law affects, he said, is not federal authority, but local participation.
“SB 54 passed in…California that prevented us as law enforcement officers to…do immigration enforcement within the state of California,” he explained.
Humboldt County’s own sanctuary ordinance reinforces that framework. Under those laws, local deputies do not enforce immigration law and do not use county resources to assist federal immigration operations.
Honsal has previously said he will uphold both California law and the county’s sanctuary ordinance, even as the issue remains politically divisive. Some residents argue sanctuary protections are necessary to build trust between immigrant communities and local law enforcement. Others contend the policy limits cooperation with federal authorities and undermines public safety. Honsal said his role is not to choose between those positions, but to operate within the law as written.
“We’re not conducting immigration enforcement,” Honsal said plainly.
The sheriff was also direct about what his department does not do in the course of their work.
“We don’t keep any kind of immigration status. We’re never going to ask for immigration status. There’s no papers for people to carry around, so to speak, and there’s nothing [that concerns us] as far as immigration status, even in a jail. We don’t ask those questions,” he explained.
Though the county sheriff is committed to upholding both California law and Humboldt County’s sanctuary ordinance, he has been candid about his concerns with how the policy functions in practice.
When the county sanctuary ordinance was first proposed, “I was against it,” Honsal said, explaining that the ordinance does not prevent federal immigration enforcement from occurring in Humboldt County, but can complicate coordination between agencies.
He has also expressed frustration that due to sanctuary status, federal immigration officials do not routinely communicate operational plans with local law enforcement, which can leave deputies responding to 911 calls without advance knowledge of what is happening and can contribute to public panic.
Still, he said, his responsibility is to enforce the law as it stands.
Those who oppose sanctuary status argue that state and county codes amount to harboring individuals from federal enforcement. Honsal clarified that the law does not shield anyone from federal authorities but instead restricts local agencies from using county resources for immigration enforcement, including declining to detain someone beyond their locally adjudicated release date solely to allow ICE to take custody.
Honsal said the decision predated sanctuary law and was based on county resources rather than politics.
“When we did honor those ICE detainers, ICE didn’t show up…to pick them up… and we were holding people past their release date,” Honsal said. “Sheriff Mike Downey thought at the time…’I’m not going to continue this practice if you’re asking for this…and then we hold them…and then you…don’t pick them up.’” Holding inmates beyond their release dates required county staffing, housing and budget resources, he said, without federal reimbursement.
Under current practice, individuals are held for the time required by their local charges. Federal authorities can see booking information through fingerprint data and may act independently. Local deputies do not hold individuals beyond their adjudicated case and do not use county resources to assist ICE enforcement either in locating an undocumented immigrant or by using county resources to detain an undocumented immigrant beyond their jail sentence.
There are limited legal circumstances where communication is permitted.
“We did turn over one person that fits the legal requirements…ICE wanted to know his release date, and we communicated that,” Honsal said. “And then on his release date, they showed up and they picked him up and transferred him.”
Under SB 54, local agencies may communicate with ICE only when an individual has been convicted of a qualifying offense under Government Code 7282.5. Those offenses generally include serious or violent felonies such as robbery, assault with a deadly weapon, certain domestic violence crimes, child abuse or lewd acts involving minors, and felony DUI causing injury, among others specifically listed in the statute. In those limited circumstances, release date information may be shared, and a transfer can occur at the conclusion of the locally imposed sentence.
According to the Sheriff’s Office semiannual sanctuary ordinance report covering January 1 through June 30, 2025, HCSO received 15 ICE administrative detainers. No release dates were proactively provided to ICE, and one individual with a qualifying offense was turned over to ICE upon completion of their sentence. Sheriff’s Office policy, along with state law, prohibits detaining someone solely based on a civil immigration detainer.
That legal framework places local law enforcement in the middle of competing expectations. Federal immigration law remains enforceable in Humboldt County. State and county law restrict how local deputies participate. Meanwhile, community members on both sides of the issue are watching closely.
Beyond what federal, state, and county law demands, the public has pressed local officials to state what they will do if immigration officials come to Humboldt.
Honsal said his department is preparing for that possibility. “Because it’s only a matter of time,” he said.
Honsal said if federal agents are lawfully serving warrants, the sheriff’s office will not interfere.
“If federal officers are in that county, and they are enforcing federal law, and they are…conducting a search warrant at a house or an arrest warrant at a house…we’re not going to interfere with that,” he said. “That is…we’re going to allow them to do their job.”
If residents call 911 reporting unknown law enforcement activity, deputies will respond to verify what is happening.
“We will gladly come. We will come there. We will show up,” Honsal said, however, they won’t interfere. “If I then step in and prevent them from doing the job, then I’m committing a violation,” he explained.
Sheriff Honsal said, “If the situation is static…and there’s a time for us to speak with the people that are in charge there…I can verify that…they have valid search warrants, valid arrest warrants, signed by a judge.”
At the same time, he acknowledged that community members retain the right to observe and protest.
“If people decide to protest, they have every right to do so. They have every right to film law enforcement. They can do that from the public street, from the public sidewalk,” he said.
However, he cautioned against physically interfering with federal officers carrying out lawful duties.
“If someone decides to interfere…that becomes a state crime violation…and that’s when [local law enforcement] would have to step in…and arrest our community members,” he said, adding that he does not want to be put in that position.
Though Honsal believes federal immigration enforcement operations will eventually take place locally, he also emphasized that his office is not engaged in immigration enforcement and does not want residents to fear contacting local deputies.
He acknowledged that the topic itself has created anxiety.
“There’s still fear in the community. I think there’s still panic out there,” he said.
Honsal noted that some recent reports of ICE presence have proven unfounded, contributing to confusion and rumor. He said his office will continue responding to calls and verifying information when concerns arise.
At the same time, he stressed that sanctuary policy does not alter the sheriff’s responsibility to respond to emergencies.
“They should never hesitate on calling 911 and request the sheriff’s office assistance if they need help.”
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A quick rant. Our immigration laws are broken and haven’t been updated in decades. That’s why the system is failing.
“If federal officers are in that county, and they are enforcing federal law, and they are…conducting a search warrant at a house or an arrest warrant at a house…we’re not going to interfere with that,” he said. “That is…we’re going to allow them to do their job.”
Those warrants need to be signed by a judge.
ICE often relies on administrative (civil) warrants, which are legally different and more limited.
Commonly used by ICE
Not signed by a judge signed instead by an ICE officer or supervisor issued under civil immigration authority (not criminal law)
Often labeled Form I-200 (arrest) or Form I-205 (detainer)
An ICE administrative warrant does not:
Authorize ICE to enter a private home without consent
So will Honsal stop these ICE agent from using these civil warrants? If they do enter a home without permission can that person call 911 and report a home break in?
Immigration Laws exist for your safety…
People in the Country without Authorization are often Deported, always have been, probably always will be…
You don’t want to run afoul of US Immigrations…
If you are illegal, please deport yourself….
Honsal can’t do a damn thing if people riot…
Protestors will come out, when the weather is better…
There is so much crime in Humboldt/Mendocino/Trinity/Lake that they can barely put a small scratch in it…
I’ll never forget what Jesse Taylor said at the “Neighborhood Watch Meeting” in Lower Redway:
“When answering the door at night, first, arm yourself”…
In a broke county, Honsal makes more than a Family Practice Physician…
The last time someone knocked on my door at night, it was a pair of little Mormon boys with badges and books. I sent them away, but honestly, what if I’d waved a gun at them? How dreadful that could have been.
I’m just reporting what the Deputy told us to do…
I was never the victim of any crime, in Lower Redway…
Based on ICE’s actions in Minnesota, answering the door with a deadly weapon could get you killed.
The Immigration haven’t been properly enforced for decades. The laws are fine and specify what steps are require to APPLY for citizenship.
Every branch of law enforcement uses “reuse tactics” to gain permission to enter someone’s house or to search your vehicle. That’s why you should know the law and not say anything without an attorney. Once somebody grants them permission to enter it’s no longer illegal.
William, I’m curious what the Sheriff’s Dept will do when multiple Antifa buses come blasting into town circling ice and with kumbaiya space lasers, they all voodoo dance around to form a gigantic Antifa tornado monster that goes into the city letting all the immigrants climb into it’s giant utilikilt sanctuary pockets and then, later, they all climb out into Antifa buses and escape to Antifalandia and have free tacos at Esmereldas with the gorillas..
Billy wakes up in bed at home surrounded by his buddies. “Honzal, You were in my dream, so were you and you”.
🤣 😂 😅 😂 🤣
multiple antifa buses???
I loved Sike’s comment.
But I have to confess that I have also seen the humungous Antifa bus yard in Portland. It was the only thing left standing after Portland was burned to the ground!!!.
It stands ready to deploy multiple buses to every podunk little town, like Coquille, OR or Forks, WA. Honsal was correct to be worried!!!
That’s snark for those who may not realize that.
Change the channel Angie
Okay Timmy.
So…Fascists are good?
He could provide information about the big pot operation in the honeydew area that employs illegals and sells on the black market
THATS what you’re worried about?! A weed grower in Honeydew?! Good grief.
That’s what you refuse to worry about? Good grief!
There’s more than one grow out there. You’ll need to be more specific. And you’re not likely to get much help from a bunch of website comment warriors.
Obama and Clinton deported more people than anyone. Obama was known as the deporter and chief. The difference now is that the left hates Trump, and it encourages protesters to be violent, by blocking roads, spitting, and throwing rocks at federal agents trying to stop them from doing their job.
The key difference isn’t “who deported more,” it’s who was targeted and under what rules: Obama’s later years focused more on recent border crossers and people with serious criminal records, while Trump scrapped those priority tiers and made almost any undocumented person fair game, even if total numbers under Trump were lower.
The picture on protests is just as distorted. Mainstream Democrats and liberal groups have not called for spitting on, assaulting, or throwing rocks at agents, and there’s a long record of the left criticizing Obama’s deportation policies—so it’s not just “about hating Trump.” There have been isolated cases of protesters crossing the line, but there are also well‑documented cases of ICE and Border Patrol using excessive force, including shootings and intimidation of peaceful observers. If you’re going to condemn bad behavior, intellectual honesty demands you apply the same standard to state violence and indiscriminate enforcement as you do to a handful of unruly protesters.
Since the state holds the power more scrutiny should be applied to them in my opinion. Though that shouldn’t mean ignoring wrong behavior from others.
Just noting: putting hands on a federal agent is a felony, not protester roughhousing protected under A1.
The “more scrutiny on the state , who holds more power ” idea sounds great, but the law works the other way: civilians get the heightened scrutiny!
Touch a federal agent and it’s a felony, period. That’s why all the moral framing misses the point. The statute already makes it clear who’s expected to stay the hell back, and it isn’t the agents.
If protesters don’t like getting shoved out of the way, and don’t want a felony charge – or to get tazed or shot – they would be smart to not interfere with, touch, spit on, throw things at, or physically get in the way of federal agents.
While it sounds noble to want to flip the script, the law is crystal clear on that part.
Good authoritarian followers obey in advance. Got it.
Tell it to the judge.
Or better yet, Go run for office. Jump into the process preemptively and change laws/scope/etc surrounding law enforcement and civilian engagement! Or find us decent liberal leadership with an actual relatable platform – beyond extreme ideologies, and terminal rage against the right and everything they stand for, even if previous Democratic administrations have embraced the very same policies.
Because, the idea that protesters have the right to challenge existing criminal codes on the street lacks logic.
When shit gets weird is it usually emotions or logic that prevail? Trump’s use of ICE is authoritarian bullshit and I do not like what this government is doing.
Terminal rage against the right? I follow many Republicans on social media and have for years. But they’re anti-Trump and understand the threat to our Constitutional Republic that Putin’s DJT puppet represents.
Still going with the Russian Collusion hoax? Man- that is old and disproven and makes the rest of your comment logically suspicious like an Orange Man Bad grunt…
So who gets to pick and choose what laws we have to follow?
Load up on Subway before they get here?
Scrutiny of just who? The people who created the problem of massive illegal immigration or the people protesting against the only fix for the problem left?
You are clearly advocating for the application of a distinct double standard…
And this is the jist of the statement that you responded to…
“If you’re going to condemn bad behavior, intellectual honesty demands you apply the same standard to state violence and indiscriminate enforcement as you do to a handful of unruly protesters.”
-QQ-
Source? If they’re well documented it shouldn’t be a problem providing that. Specifically, those egregious offenses against peaceful observers. I’ll wait.
ICE Agents Menaced Minnesota Protesters at Their Homes, Filings SayProtesters in Minneapolis and St. Paul said in sworn statements that they were singled out by agents who demonstrated that they knew where they lived.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/13/us/minneapolis-ice-agents-protester-home-visits.html?smid=url-share
there’s more that I could post, but since it’s well documented, you could Google it yourself. Shooting of Americans and intimidation tactics are going to haunt the administration and the GOP.
That’s your example??? It took me some wrangling to get behind the NYT paywall but I read the article. It does not show excessive force, it doesn’t show any force!!
It shows a civilian tailing ICE across half the Twin Cities and the agents taking a photo of his plate. No assault, no shooting, no “peaceful observer” harmed.
If that’s your strongest example, it doesn’t back the claim you made.
What it did show was that they were literally tailing a federal enforcement vehicle across multiple jurisdictions and highways. That alone is enough to get the attention of any federal agent. If ICE believed he was surveilling them, interfering, or obstructing operations?
They’d absolutely follow up.
That’s not “excessive force.” That’s “you followed a fed intentionally and they turned around to document and ask why.”
You claimed there were (multiple) “well-documented shootings and intimidation of peaceful observers.”
Giving me this nothing burger with ” just Google it ” is kinda like saying you have no slew of sources that actually matches that description. But I’m open to being educated on these widespread events.
Do you mean, aside from the killings? The argument was lost when they shot that guy in the back while he was on his knees.
The link I shared showed that ice had demonstrated that they knew where the demonstrators lived. Is that intimidation or what?
The guy who brought the gun and extra clips to “peacefully protest” after he was seen vandalizing cop cars with police in them? That wonderfully peaceful guy??
is that a quote from truth social? Gotta put links. Any hoo. He didn’t have extra clips. Second amendment much?
“The defining difference between a clip and a magazine is the presence of a feed mechanism, typically a spring-loaded follower, which a clip lacks”
-wikipedia
Hey gun guys, am I right?!
Aside from the killings of Pretti and Good:
The American Civil Liberties Union, the ACLU of Minnesota, and pro bono partners filed an amended complaint and over 80 declarations with the U.S. District Court for the District of Minnesota further exposing the harm Minnesotans are experiencing daily at the hands of federal agents. https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/new-filings-detail-harrowing-accounts-of-ice-and-border-patrol-violence-and-intimidation-against-minnesotans
Oregon Attorney General Dan Rayfield today submitted arguments and evidence in support of a lawsuit brought by the ACLU of Oregon… that challenges violations of the First Amendment and the use of excessive force by federal agents outside the Portland ICE building. The evidence submitted today shows that federal agents tear gassed peaceful protesters repeatedly during the weekend of January 31. “Peaceful protesters – kids, seniors, and families – are being hit with tear gas and pepper balls in our streets.” According to testimony submitted to the court by the Oregon Department of Justice (ODOJ), federal agents deployed tear gas into a densely packed crowd. https://www.doj.state.or.us/media-home/news-media-releases/g-rayfield-submits-evidence-in-lawsuit-challenging-use-of-force-by-ice-agents/
A protester is filing a civil rights lawsuit against the Los Angeles Police Department, alleging an officer shattered his jaw after shooting him multiple times with a foam projectile during an anti-ICE protest last summer. https://abc7.com/post/protester-shot-face-foam-projectile-during-anti-ice-protest-suing-lapd/18438982/
Federal agents shot and killed a U.S. citizen in Texas last year… Ruben Ray Martinez, 23, was shot by an ICE Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) officer in South Padre Island, Texas, on March 15, 2025, after what ICE described as a failure to follow law enforcement instructions during a traffic incident as agents worked with local police on immigration enforcement. https://www.newsweek.com/ice-agent-fatally-shot-us-citizen-texas-dhs-records-11544225?utm_source=reddit&utm_campaign=reddit_main
In the first two months of 2025, officers reported 67 incidents, nearly four times the 17 incidents reported during the same period in 2024. https://www.newsweek.com/ice-excessive-force-citizens-migrants-emails-11537351
Do you need more?
More if this? No. We need the sources that actually back up you stated claims. The links you provided show a mix of things: ACLU allegations, lawsuits involving LAPD (not ICE, fyi) crowd-control, and ICE enforcement encounters where people were in vehicles, and some genuine use-of-force cases that are still under investigation.
What they don’t show is your original claim “documented excessive use of force” and “shootings of peaceful observers.” Even the serious incidents all involve arrests, vehicles, declared dispersal orders, or people physically inserting themselves into operations! And none of that changes the legal reality and likely motivation for these encounters: that if you interfere with or lay hands on a federal agent you’re putting others and yourself at grave risk.
People should protest or observe, but once it becomes physical, the law is brutally clear about how that might end.
BOTH justifiable shootings is what you start with?
You been living under a fucking rock or what?
“You been living under a fucking rock, or what?” (ABA) Def on-brand with your last insulting potty mouth jab . 🙄
Between FY 2010 and FY 2013, ICE encountered over 2.6 million persons through CAP, but removed fewer than 508,000. Of that number, 87,426 individuals had a conviction for a violent crime or a crime the FBI classifies as serious (a mere 3 percent of the total number of encounters).
– https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/report/enforcement-overdrive-comprehensive-assessment-ices-criminal-alien-program/?utm
In the complex rules of immigration, that’s not true either. Obama’s administration changed the name of what used to be called “returns”, which were people picked up fairly close to the border, returned over the border and not kept in stats at all, to calling them “deported” and keeping stats. It was an accounting change. Not a real one. And it masked the drop of people deported from the interior of the country. Then he went on with his unilateral de facto law making of the Dreamers Act which was found nowhere in the Federal Code to double down. The last action of Congress in law making was to rubber stamp his disregard of the law. And you are amazed at where the country is now.
Still the idea that the public is required to wait for a person to be caught and convicted of a serious crime before they should be deported has been used for decades to avoid deporting most any illegal immigrant. That is why there are millions and millions and millions working in the country.
Hello? This is not rocket science. There would be no issue if deportations were actually done and the system for doing them bogged down in court order regulations and cost. The proof of the left’s influence is the very fact that 25% of illiegal immigrants live in California. There are millions and millions of people in the country who either crossed the border by avoiding customs check point , working without permission, or overstayed a visa, most of which did not give permission to work. And why would work permits be such a big deal? Because the unholy union of Democrats and Republicans on immigration wants endless cheap labor that keeps goods and service less expensive by ensuring unskilled labor costs as little as possible. But in the real world there are plenty of citizens who are unskilled or prefer manual labor who are screwed by this self serving belittling of their work
The stupid government has piled on layer after layer of regulations and programs to protect lower wage earners, making unskilled labor expensive , then permitted wholesale flouting of those regulations where illegal labor is concerned. Lefties are as bad as eighties at this. Even worse because they preen themselves over their self serving empathy while posturing about being angry over people not being able to afford rent. Those liberal actors with their nannies and maids, who live on restaurant meals , get thrir lawns mowef, etc are just as bad as the employers who hire illegal workers for their factories. This is in part how the country came to have cheap food and expensive housing. But all the lefties notice is how some got extravagantly rich. They refuse to look at their own involvement in it.
Yeah- remember the nonsense about everyone getting a college degree because they all make more money? Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees. Now there are huge numbers of people gig working because their labor is not wanted , so few medical doctors that practically half of them are immigrants and the whining over housing costs is contin. Welcome to the unintended consequences. They don’t want deportation to work.
“Some residents argue sanctuary protections are necessary to build trust between immigrant communities and local law enforcement. ”
The trust is lost the moment they step foot in this country without proper permission. That trust is lost because the first thing they do is attach on to our government like a leech and suck all of our hard-earned tax dollars from the government. Who pays for that? We pay for that. We work hard and the tax rates go up and our tax dollars go towards people who don’t even work.
Seems to me the only people that are supporting this sanctuary stuff are the old boomers are about to die and hate all the young people and want to see us suffer, and the ones were here illegally or born here of illegal immigrants.
The only government officials supporting this are the ones who are supporting organ trafficking to israel.
I think the people who mainly support California’s sanctuary ordinance are primarily the people in cities like Los Angeles where immigrants without legal status are a crucial component of regular city function and the local police are already stretched thin dealing with many other issues.
I am curious how you come to the conclusion that illegal immigrants represent a major tax burden? I hear claims both ways pretty regularly but I never seen very good evidence accompanying the claims
So what idiot made illegal labor a “crucial component”? Why are the police “stretched thin”? Because are few illegal immigrants working in government so their salaries and benefits are too expensive. Because immigrant labor is cheap when the competition is so slanted toward avoiding the massive regulations of employment while the easy option to avoid it is to hire people who work hard and don’t complain out of fear of deportation.
And why are illegal immigrants a tax burden? Because the left and right have colluded to make unskilled labor a road into poverty that must then be kept housed, medicated and schooled if nothing else.
I don’t know how unskilled these people are, I couldn’t work on a construction crew, but here’s for your increase in housing costs. Read it and weep.
“In many Republican-leaning states, construction companies are scrambling to staff crews because stepped-up ICE enforcement has driven immigrant workers off job sites, deepening an already severe labor shortage and delaying projects. Contractors report that entire teams disappear after raids or rumors of them, pushing up wages and costs and making it harder to keep housing and infrastructure work on schedule.”
https://www.tpr.org/border-immigration/2026-02-04/construction-site-ice-raids-hurting-economy-and-building-industry
The article doesn’t even say that they are undocumented immigrants that are not showing up for work. I think ice overreach has scared lots and lots of people. Are you proud that you don’t have any empathy for these people? Or maybe you do. We would all benefit if we had a bit more empathy.
Hello again? Of course a lot of businessmen hire illegal workers and are likely to be Republicans too because many business people are. Most resrsurants , meat processers, trucking companies, nursing homes, independent contractors etc. These undocumented workers are still working somewhere. Somewhere that most people use. Somewhere thatball politicians benefit from.
But the Democrats should have been interested in protecting their constituent citizens from sleazy illegal competition, even news reporters where Democrats are overwhelmingly Democrats. But instead they facilitated it with government ID despite illegal status. Sanctuary declarations. Refusing to fund immigration enforcement, giving grants to NGO servicing illegals. Dream Act? In state tuition? Sob stories about threats to whoever can be a sympathetic story? But do the interviews the businesses who try to be honest in their hiring and have to compete against those who aren’t? Etc, etc, etc.
What do you think was meant by an unholy alliance? Frankly anyone who talks about “ICE overreach” means ignoring the law for most of the illegal workers using fraudulent documents because they can’t face the harm caused.
Yes. But hello, again. lol 😂 I don’t follow you. That sounds more like a conspiracy theory than a balanced analysis. Both parties have messy, conflicting incentives around immigration, but painting it as a deliberate “unholy alliance” ignores the actual policy debates and economic realities behind it.
OK, so you have a problem with the word “overreach.” Butt a rose by any other name would smell as sweet:
”65% of Americans, up from 54% in June of 2025, [71% of Independents, be careful now, righties] think the actions of ICE have gone too far in enforcing immigration laws…62% of Americans say the actions of ICE are making Americans somewhat less safe or much less safe.”
https://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/NPR_PBS-News_Marist-Poll_USA-NOS-and-Tables_202602021147.pdf
And the earth is flat. The sky is pink, and Santa will be here soon. Wow. Get a GRIP!
“attach on to our government like a leech and suck all of our hard-earned tax dollars”
Google AI:
“Undocumented immigrants in the United States pay billions of dollars in taxes annually. While they are not legally authorized to work, many pay federal income taxes, payroll taxes (Social Security and Medicare), and state and local taxes, including sales and property taxes.
Here is a breakdown of how and why undocumented immigrants pay taxes:
Tax Contributions
How They Pay Taxes
Benefits and Restrictions
Why They Pay
According to the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP), if all undocumented immigrants were granted work authorization, their tax contributions would increase significantly—by over $40 billion annually—due to higher wages and better tax compliance.”
How are they buying homes if they are undocumented? How are they paying taxes when they are “undocumented”?
Sales and fuel taxes when they buy those things and withheld income tax when they’re working on fake documents
That sounds like criminality to me. Why don’t we just deport them and let documented Americans buy those houses and get hired for those jobs instead? I hear Americans are having a hard time buying houses. How are the “undocumented” able to afford the interest rates and down payments if they are doing the jobs Americans don’t want to do for low wages?
I’m starting to feel like a sucker for being documented and legal after reading all the things the undocumented are getting.
“let documented Americans buy those houses and get hired for those jobs instead”
Americans aren’t unable to buy houses because they’re occupied by undocumented immigrants. We can’t buy houses because they aren’t affordable. Americans aren’t being deprived of jobs by undocumented immigrants.
“How are the “undocumented” able to afford the interest rates and down payments if they are doing the jobs Americans don’t want to do for low wages?”
They can’t afford it either. That’s just not happening.
You’re “starting to feel like a sucker” because you’re being taken advantage of by billionaires and the 1%. They’re pitting the working class–wherever we were born, whether we’re documented or not–against each other so we don’t do anything about the rigged system that’s enriching and empowering them.
Immigrants aren’t stealing your house or your job. Private equity might be, though.
So the undocumented are grabbing all the houses? See, we agree on something. Too many undocumented are taking the limited supply of housing forcing many into the streets or making it impossible for them to buy a starter home.
No. Reread and try again.
Everyone pay sales tax. Why do you think sales tax keeps going up and up and up? Because it does not cover the costs of government for anyone , much less the costs of low wage illegal immigrant labor. Why do you think that government workers still get pensions, healthcare and retirement when most of the rest of the country has lost them? Because they are an industry where the workers are protected from competition from illegal immigrants labor?
Medicare for all is petty politicking. Let’s have no competition from illegal immigrant labor forball!
Like it’s so hard to procure or create fake documents 😆
Oh Lordy, who will pick the proverbial strawberries if we free the slaves again?
100% of Canyon Oak comments bring up race in some weird and incoherent way. Prove me wrong.
Having an under paid class of workers with fewer rights is a form of slavery.
All races have suffered from being enslaved at one point or another in history including Europeans captured and kept in slavery in the Middle East, that is what kicked off the Crusades. Slavery is still practiced in Sudan and other Moslem states today.
God that bit of biased nonsense gets trotted out at every turn. No matter how clear it is that the costs of illegal immigration are disengenuously ignored by simply toting up cash taken and paid out to individuals. The only time the left takes notice of the costs of importing cheap labor wholesale and ignoring the massive amounts the government spends to cope is when they nag about who is poor to call out racism. Creating poverty then complaining about which segment of the population pays the highest price.
Everything you disagree with is “biased nonsense.” Or “leftist hate.” Every Trumper gets to make up their own facts, right?
On average, how many hours a day do you spend whining about “the left?”
Since I rarely initiate a post, a lot less than those I whine about. And I do spend way too much time documenting and examining issues. Whining as you put it. Way, way too much time. It would be a lot less if so many just didn’t mindlessly repeat the stuff they see on their social media sources then get their shorts in a knot if someone points out it wrong.
It’s like 👇 It takes a lot of effort to move dead weight.
Oh, and what “trumpers” do does not absolve what anti-trumpers do.
What about the taxes that they pay into the system and will never see a benefit from. Whatever happened to the I-9 form? I use to employee people and in the 90s couldn’t hire anybody that didn’t sign the form and show some type of proof who they were and that they were a legal citizen.
Well as usual it is not that simple. People who are illegal start getting benefits on the social security taxes they paid when they were illegal when they gain legal residencestatus. Then, if wages are not able to credited, which they most frequent are even if the employer did not forward them to the government, they still then qualify for need based programs if they are still in the US. Then even illegal, immigrants can a tax identity number and get things like child tax credits.
Then “For individuals who are ineligible for unemployment benefits due to their immigration status, other forms of assistance may be available. These alternatives are offered through non-governmental and community-based organizations. Resources such as local food banks, private charities, and religious organizations often provide aid without regard to immigration status.
Some states have also created their own cash assistance programs to fill gaps for immigrants who are barred from federal programs like Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF). Additionally, programs like the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC) are available to individuals regardless of their immigration status.” And government grants go to those charities.
Guess who that is in California? “If you are an undocumented worker in California, you can apply for DI and PFL benefits, even if you do not have a Social Security number (SSN).
It doesn’t matter what your citizenship or immigration status is; DI and PFL benefits will not affect your path to citizenship. Your information will be kept confidential.”
And guess again who is likely to file for it more often? The citizen who merrily pays in for decades without ever seeing a return or the low skilled worker likely to see frequent layoffs?
None of this is a simple or obvious as the illegal immigrant lobby would tell everyone. Heck if it were California would not be ever having a budget cridis.
https://edd.ca.gov/en/disability/undocumented_workers/
The sales tax they pay should cover that.
https://kymkemp.com/2026/02/19/honsal-talks-sanctuary-law-ice-enforcement-and-what-humboldt-can-expect/#comment-1906120
It was sarcasm.
I don’t want to build trust with criminals or their abettors.
OK, everybody keep worrying about ice because in the the meantime, the current administration is creating distractions to divert attention from the growing number of high-profile individuals including Trump‘s secretary of commerce lol— caught up in the Epstein investigation. Authorities have even arrested a British royal in connection with the case. What concerns me most is that, with Trump’s poll numbers slipping, he might escalate military tensions to shift public focus. It’s also worth noting that most Americans oppose the recent overreach by ICE.
Russia and Israel will lose power over Trump if Democrats take back the House. His opportunities for anti-American foreign policies are endless until then. Strap in peeps we’re gonna kill people in foreign lands for Epstein distractions.
Like the Clintons? Woody Allen? Peter Attia? Doug Band? Noam Comsky? Bill Cosby? This is not a political gambit that liberals are going to end up embracing. Sleaze is not a party partisan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_named_in_the_Epstein_files
Yeah, fuck all those assholes too.
Release all the Epstein Files (except the names of the victims, of course.)
Another back peddling Sheriff! If you are here illegally you have broken the law. Picking and choosing what laws to enforce is criminal in it self. It is called mutual aid, unless I think differently.
Mutual aid means that the entities requested get reimbursed. ICE doesn’t ask for mutual aid, they can enforce immigration federally and no place, regardless of sanctuary status, is outside their jurisdiction in the U.S. In areas whithout sanctuary status, local officers can spend their manpower in contacting ICE over an immigration issue and/or detain them for immigration violations at a cost to their own county/jurisdiction while they wait for ICE to pick up the person. If I recall correctly, some held on detainers prior to sanctuary status were held for upwards of a year without ICE showing up to pick them up. That’s a lot of local taxpayer dollars to hold a person for a federal entity that isn’t in a hurry to deport. However, Honsal and other Humboldt County leos are bound by state and county restrictions that prevent them from using county resources, ie personnel wages or equipment, to aid in federal immigration. If an undocumented person has committed a crime, they are mandated to enforce the law, ie, if a person is caught DUI, there are criminal repercussions for that, regardless of immigration status. Whether you like it or not, overstaying a visa is not crime, it is a civil infraction dealt with by ICE. Much like if a restaurant doesn’t keep their food to temp, that is a dhhs violation, not something leos would be involved in. If leos have a signed judicial warrant for a crime, they will use their resources for that purpose, but they can’t use those resources to detain someone for immigration only issues… that’s the job of federal officials.
Pettigoging pedantic posturing. That mutual aid shtick is exposed by the protesters talking about protecting their “neighbors” being deported. The reality is the sanctuary laws were written to go as far as could be done to prevent the Federal immigration laws from being enforced even when it left murderers and crooks free until they finally went too far. The votes are in and citizens did not win.
Can you imagine telling the State of California franchise tax board that you refuse to spend your hard earned money sending them a tax return and if they want to take your money they need to come get it? Hmm… maybe that’s an idea. Oh wait… that’s what the sovereign citizen believers do and liberals despise them.
The question is whether Honsal will stop ICE when they rampage into people’s lives without a judicial warrant, since a “raid” that lacks a judicial warrant is a kidnapping.
Billy “Busload” Honsal? His overall tone made his position clear. And he definitely left himself a very large out when he said he could verify warrants “if the situation is static…and there’s a time for us to speak with the people that are in charge there…”
He’ll just claim it was a “dynamic situation.”
No, but we knew that.
I ding want Ice Herr because this is mostly Native Americans and the tend to Arrest our people and deport them. Look at the mess they created arresting Native Americans and deporting them . I know the difference but they don’t acknowledge it and the damage is done. I hope they don’t come to Humboldt.
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This is pretty cool…
“Admin”…
Meet…
“Admax”…
There is “ad blocker”…
And then there is “content blocker”…
There seems to be a bit of a “sibling rivalry” going…
The RHBB pop up ads seem to be trying to outdo the actual RHBB content and engagement functions…
Did someone slip the Culture Kings popup ads a blue pill…???
Because they popped up all the way to the very top…
If that doesn’t get your attention, nothing will…
😉 😁
Since late summer full-page power is frequently being granted to the bottom banner ad …corrupted script somewhere is making it sit, and now multiply, persistently on top of the page/article /comments etc … current theme/plugins/ad setup seem to be fighting each other and the user end is a wild ride. I get it. .. Java is hard!! 😳
More likely a browser rendering bug…what browser are you two using? 🙂
Chrome on Android. If it were a generic browser rendering bug, we’d be seeing full-page stacks of identical banner ads on other sites. I’m not.
Are those other sites WordPress? Haven’t seen the problem with Firefox on Android or Linux…I visit here quite often…
Have you found a workaround…???
The only escape that I have figured out is to actually just leave the site…
How could that even possibly be an “ad”vantage…???
I guess maybe it’s not really a serious problem until after it hasn’t gone away after 4 hours…
The “bottom banner” is being given full-screen power on phones and apparently auto-refreshes without clearing the old one, so it just stacks the same ad up the entire page like wallpaper. Pinching directly on the ad (since the arrow which typically shrinks the ad out of view is not accessible) will knock it out of view for a second, but it does snap back . Then pinch again, refresh. or
bounce.
Sheriff, I have a direct question regarding your legal obligations to the public you serve. What actions will you take if excessive or unlawful force is used against protesters within your jurisdiction? Additionally, what is your position if citizens are detained without lawful cause or in violation of established constitutional protections? In many instances of late fatalities occurred without provocation, ICE personnel being the aggressors.
Your public statements suggest that anyone who “interferes” will be arrested. However, across the United States we have seen documented instances of indiscriminate force, unlawful detentions, and racial profiling. Federal agencies, including ICE, have detained First Nations individuals and multiple U.S. citizens without cause. These incidents raise serious constitutional concerns.
Given these realities, what is your position? and more importantly, what is your plan of action, if federal agents or other law‑enforcement entities violate the constitutional rights of residents in your county?
You have described yourself as a “constitutional sheriff.” Do you still affirm that role, and if so, how do you intend to uphold those constitutional duties when the violations come from other government actors?
is Humboldt County entirely be within the 100 mile border search exclusion zone
Yes, Humboldt County is situated entirely within the 100-mile federal border enforcement zone.
Legal Information Institute
Because the 100-mile zone is calculated from any external boundary of the United States—which includes the Pacific coastline—the entire county falls under this jurisdiction.
American Civil Liberties Union
Key Details Regarding the 100-Mile Zone in Humboldt County:
Definition of the Zone: The U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) claims authority to operate within 100 air miles of any land or coastal border.
Coastal Coverage: Because Humboldt County is a coastal county located well within 100 miles of the Pacific Ocean coastline, it is included in the zone.
Legal Authority: Within this zone, Border Patrol agents have broader authority to stop and search vehicles, though they are still required to comply with constitutional protections (such as having probable cause for vehicle searches).
Geographic Scope: According to legal definitions, the inland Area of Responsibility (AOR) for border enforcement includes the entirety of Humboldt, Del Norte, Mendocino, and several other Northern California counties.
Southern Border Communities Coalition
While this area is sometimes colloquially referred to as a “constitution-free zone,” civil liberties still apply, and agent authority is not absolute.
I would love to see the sheriff’s response to your post, Farmer. The real guest has what seems like an AI churn, but a real human touch in a response would be helpful.