Humboldt County Jail Reports: Daily Booking Sheet – February 16, 2026

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Humboldt County Correctional Facility [Photo by Mark McKenna]

The Humboldt County Correctional Facility’s Daily Booking Sheet. This is information from the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office. This shows individuals booked into the jail or given supervised release. Any individuals described should be presumed innocent until proven guilty: Click the arrows on the lower left-hand side to see more. It may take a few seconds to load:

DAVID ROMAN
Arresting Agency/Officer: Arcata Police Department / Officer Burke
Time of Arrest: 02/15/2026 05:23
Incarceration/Bail Status: Released per PC 849(b)(2)

Charges/Arrested for:

  • PC 647(f) — Public intoxication: Being under the influence of alcohol or drugs in a public place to the extent one cannot care for their own safety or the safety of others.


KELLIE LEEANN DEXTER
Arresting Agency/Officer: California Highway Patrol / Officer Dyulger
Time of Arrest: 02/15/2026 02:05
Incarceration/Bail Status: O.R.

Charges/Arrested for:

  • VC 23152(a) — DUI (alcohol): Driving under the influence of alcohol.

  • VC 23152(g) — DUI (combined influence): Driving under the combined influence of alcohol and drugs.


JAYDE OWEN BLAIR
Arresting Agency/Officer: California Highway Patrol / Officer Reves
Time of Arrest: 02/15/2026 02:29
Incarceration/Bail Status: O.R.

Charges/Arrested for:

  • VC 23152(a) — DUI (alcohol): Driving under the influence of alcohol.

  • VC 23152(b) — DUI (BAC 0.08% or higher): Driving with a blood alcohol concentration at or above the legal limit.


RICHARD EUGENE MORRISON
Arresting Agency/Officer: Arcata Police Department / Officer J. Lewallen
Time of Arrest: 02/15/2026 09:20
Incarceration/Bail Status: O.R. — Bench Warrant

Charges/Arrested for:

  • PC 594(b)(1) — Vandalism: Damaging or destroying property.

  • PC 417(a)(1) — Brandishing a weapon: Drawing or exhibiting a weapon in a threatening manner.

  • PC 242 — Battery: Willful and unlawful use of force or violence upon another person.


QUINCY MICHAEL PREGISH MCCOVEY
Arresting Agency/Officer: Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office / Deputy Buzzard
Time of Arrest: 02/15/2026 07:40
Incarceration/Bail Status: Fresh Arrest

Charges/Arrested for:

  • PC 29800(a)(1) — Felon in possession of a firearm: Prohibited person possessing a firearm.

  • HS 11370.1(a) — Drugs while armed: Possession of controlled substances while armed with a loaded firearm.

  • PC 69 — Resisting an executive officer: Using threats or force to deter an officer from performing duties.

  • HS 11377(a) — Controlled substance possession: Possession of certain narcotics without a prescription.

  • PC 25400(a)(2) — Concealed firearm in vehicle: Carrying a concealed firearm in a vehicle.


TREVOR JOHN GILLIHAN
Arresting Agency/Officer: Eureka Police Department / Officer Barrett
Time of Arrest: 02/15/2026 09:17
Incarceration/Bail Status: Foreign Warrant

Charges/Arrested for:

  • PC 69 — Resisting an executive officer: Using threats or force against an officer.

  • PC 21310 — Carrying a concealed dirk or dagger: Possession of a concealed stabbing weapon.

  • HS 11364(a) — Drug paraphernalia: Possession of paraphernalia used for controlled substances.

  • PC 3000.08(c) — Post-release community supervision violation: Violation of supervision terms.


KIM MARIE JOHNSTON
Arresting Agency/Officer: Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office / Deputy K. Luna
Time of Arrest: 02/15/2026 16:24
Incarceration/Bail Status: Foreign Warrant

Charges/Arrested for:

  • PC 1320(b) — Failure to appear (felony): Willful failure to appear in court after release on bail or O.R. for a felony case.

  • PC 594(b)(1) — Vandalism: Damaging or destroying property.


LAURA ANN JENSEN
Arresting Agency/Officer: Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office / Deputy Kane
Time of Arrest: 02/15/2026 19:31
Incarceration/Bail Status: Fresh Arrest

Charges/Arrested for:

  • PC 273.5(a) — Domestic violence: Inflicting corporal injury on a spouse, cohabitant, or partner.

  • PC 245(a)(1) — Assault with a deadly weapon: Assault using a weapon or force likely to cause great bodily injury.


BRANDON SCOTT COVELL
Arresting Agency/Officer: Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office / Deputy Mostovoy
Time of Arrest: 02/15/2026 21:36
Incarceration/Bail Status: Fresh Arrest

Charges/Arrested for:

  • PC 647(f) — Public intoxication: Being under the influence in public and unable to care for personal safety.


DAVID JOSEPH CARTER
Arresting Agency/Officer: Arcata Police Department / Officer Van Dunk
Time of Arrest: 02/15/2026 21:57
Incarceration/Bail Status: Fresh Arrest

Charges/Arrested for:

  • PC 647(f) — Public intoxication: Being intoxicated in public to the point of being unable to care for oneself or others.


KORY ANN BEACH
Arresting Agency/Officer: Arcata Police Department / Officer Burke
Time of Arrest: 02/16/2026 01:57
Incarceration/Bail Status: Fresh Arrest

Charges/Arrested for:

  • VC 23152(a) — DUI (alcohol): Driving under the influence of alcohol.

  • VC 23152(b) — DUI (BAC 0.08% or higher): Driving with a blood alcohol level at or above the legal limit.

  • VC 12500(a) — Unlicensed driver: Driving without a valid driver’s license.

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Mr. Clark
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4 months ago

More liberal and progressive bullshit. You dont have to hunt or fish. You can eat your beyond inclosable burger, you can eat soy fish. But leave the rest of us alone.

A petition to ban hunting and fishing is being pushed in Oregon in the hopes that it may make it to the ballot this November.
KOIN reported that the petition seeks to pass the People for the Elimination of Animal Cruelty Exemptions (PEACE) Act.
The Act “would change the current Oregon animal cruelty laws, which currently protect pets such as dogs and cats, and would expand coverage to wild animals, livestock and animals used in research.”

PETA sucks ass.

https ://ww w.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2026/02/16/petition-to-ban-hunting-and-fishing-being-pushed-in-oregon/

Maverick Rhoyd Chief Alpha 1, Liberty Enforcement
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Maverick Rhoyd Chief Alpha 1, Liberty Enforcement
4 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

I AM OUTRAGED!
I identify as an outdoorsMAN.
I don’t hunt or fish, but I intend to. Just need to get tires on the Tahoe. I asked you worthless libs if you had any decent used tires you wanted to take off and bring over. But NOOOO. you people just want to watch Bad Bunny halftime porno. IN SPANISH!
so selfish.

Tangled Massocells
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Tangled Massocells
4 months ago

It gets better… apparently Mr.President is intent on turning the beaches stretching from Santa Monica to Torrence Beach into a National Park. Save the Beaches!

Maverick Rhoyd Chief Alpha 1, Liberty Enforcement
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Maverick Rhoyd Chief Alpha 1, Liberty Enforcement
4 months ago

Have it be known that Michelin Ratings are based on Service, Style, and Tire Wear. You people have been advised.

Ahuka 2400
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Ahuka 2400
4 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

PETA needs to read up on the Backster Effect. I remember doing a paper on it for my sophomore HS Biology class in ’67 or ’68. I guess then we’d only be allowed to eat rocks.

melanopsin
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4 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

The vegetarian diet is well misunderstood by non-vegetarians. Typically we do not eat “meat substitutes” such as soy burgers and textured vegetable proteins.

Kicking Bull
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Kicking Bull
4 months ago
Reply to  melanopsin

I don’t eat any of that shit, bill gates best intention burger barf, ultra processed nonsense food

cranky old lady
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4 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

You do realize that we, the people, have a right to petition government. That’s what this is about and if you think a ballot issue banning hunting is going to pass in a state like Oregon, then you need to lay off the alcohol, Clark. Along with deleting Breitbart from your favorites list.

Mr. Clark
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4 months ago

And yet the california government wants to hide things form you. And You think it is OK?
https://ktla.com/news/politics/inside-california-politics/bill-aims-to-shield-certain-information-about-california-high-speed-rail-project/

A new state bill aims to shield certain information about California’s High-Speed Rail project from the public.
Supporters say it’s about protecting sensitive records, but critics think it puts the brakes on transparency.
The project is set to one day connect Los Angeles and San Francisco and, eventually, San Diego and Sacramento.
Backers of the project, including Governor Gavin Newsom, say it will transform the future of transportation. “Want to do well in the future, you gotta invest in the future,” he said in Jan. 2026.

ABA
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ABA
4 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

You’re confusing trains with hunting again.

D'Tucker Jebs
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4 months ago
Reply to  ABA

These are things that should definitely not be confused.
It is not OK to shoot at trains!

CsMisadventures
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CsMisadventures
4 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

This issue has been proposed several times in the last 20 years or so and each time it fails to get on the ballot or voted down. Also, there’s more than a few people in Oregon, Portland ultra liberals included that will simply ignore parts of this law, not to mention LEOs and various government agencies that will refuse to enforce it. As far as I know this is just some PeTA clan that keeps trying to see if anyone is paying attention.

The supporters can say “Wheee we did it!”, and the detractors will come back with “Did what? I’m not changing a thing, good luck”. Comments I read in places broadly suggest that.

Bill Lutjens
Member
4 months ago

Vassal 
refers to a person or state that is in a subservient or subordinate position to a more powerful authority, historically a feudal lord or a dominant nation. 
 In medieval Europe, a vassal was a noble who pledged loyalty and military service to a lord in exchange for land (a fief) and protection—this relationship was known as vassalage. 

In modern usage, the term extends to describe a vassal state, a country that is politically, economically, or militarily dependent on a stronger power. 
 Such states often pay tribute, align foreign policy with the dominant nation, and may lose significant autonomy, though they may retain formal sovereignty. This dynamic mirrors historical feudal systems but applies to international relations. 

  • Key characteristics of a vassal:
  • Subservience: Lacks full independence in decision-making.
  • Obligations: May include tribute, military support, or diplomatic alignment.
  • Protection: Receives security or stability from the dominant power.
  • Loss of autonomy: Diplomatic and military actions are often dictated by the overlord. 

The concept also appears in historical and religious contexts, such as the Suzerain-Vassal treaties in the ancient Near East (e.g., Yahweh’s covenant with Israel), where loyalty and obedience were required in exchange for protection and land. 
While the term is rooted in medieval feudalism, it remains relevant today as a metaphor for unequal power relationships in politics, economics, and international affairs. 

Maverick Rhoyd Chief Alpha 1, Liberty Enforcement
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Maverick Rhoyd Chief Alpha 1, Liberty Enforcement
4 months ago
Reply to  Bill Lutjens

At least we agree. Womens should not vote

Allen
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Allen
4 months ago

As the United States heads toward the midterm elections, there are growing concerns among some political scientists that the country has moved even further along the path to some form of autocracy.

https://www.npr.org/2026/02/16/nx-s1-5705955/us-autocracy-concerns-grow

Mr. Clark
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4 months ago
Reply to  Allen

You mean accountability and transparency? That is a good thing.

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Allen
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Allen
4 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

When was the last time a voting ballot killed someone?

Mr. Clark
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4 months ago
Reply to  Allen

Typical four upvotes for your misdirection. This is not about guns. It is about fair elections.

CsMisadventures
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CsMisadventures
4 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

Now it’s up to 6.

Mr. Clark
Member
4 months ago

and that is why California is failing. They let everyone vote.

Maverick Rhoyd Chief Alpha 1, Liberty Enforcement
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Maverick Rhoyd Chief Alpha 1, Liberty Enforcement
4 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

And now voting is killing more people than guns.
Shut it down.
If Repbulicans lose the midterms then all the billionaires we care about are gonna see a reduced ROI, and feel somewhat marginalized. They already are facing limits on vacay options, what with Island Life becoming so stugmatized.

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Kicking Bull
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Kicking Bull
4 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

We must protect the illusion of democracy!

NorCalNative
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NorCalNative
4 months ago
Reply to  Allen

In the US we have a name for authoritarian followers that are loyal to an American autocrat/pedophile. MAGA.

D'Tucker Jebs
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4 months ago

This week is Take Your Family to School Week!

Also… there is no school this week!

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
4 months ago
Reply to  D'Tucker Jebs

Today is Presidents Day…

Let the Liberal protests begin…

And…

Action…!!!

D'Tucker Jebs
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4 months ago
Reply to  The Real Guest

I, for one, am outraged that we have a constitution that calls upon the citizenry to democratically elect someone to lead the Executive Branch of our government, and that the power of that branch is designed to be held in check by the other two branches!

We should have all-powerful totalitarian leader, and his or her (let’s face it, his) reign should be decided by the result hand to hand combat to the death!

Did that meet your expectation?
I’m really not sure what you were hoping for, but I really didn’t want to disappoint.

Maverick Rhoyd Chief Alpha 1, Liberty Enforcement
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Maverick Rhoyd Chief Alpha 1, Liberty Enforcement
4 months ago
Reply to  D'Tucker Jebs

Me likey. You’re starting to get it.
But there’s some things in our past that I think you need to work on before you no longer disappoint me

Tootsie Roll Pop Owl
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Tootsie Roll Pop Owl
4 months ago
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Bozo
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Bozo
4 months ago

Meanwhile… Further coverage of the Murder/Suicide in Witchepec earlier this month
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— SFGate
California mental health advocate killed by her husband, officials say
A mental health advocate was killed by her husband in an apparent murder-suicide earlier this month in Humboldt County, officials said. Celinda Jane Gonzales was 59.

On the evening of Feb. 3, Humboldt County sheriff’s deputies were called to a home on the 900 block of Lewis Road in Weitchpec, an unincorporated village in the Yurok reservation. Inside the residence, they discovered the bodies of Celinda Gonzales and her husband, Arthur Gutierrez Gonzales, Jr., 52. Their deaths have been classified as a murder-suicide by Humboldt County law enforcement.

Celinda Gonzales was featured by CalMatters in 2020, when she was interviewed for a piece on a “surge in suicides” in Humboldt County amid the pandemic. Gonzales, a member of the Yurok Tribe, shared that after her 19-year-old son and her brother died by suicide.

She received training in suicide intervention and went on to help local fire and police departments with her knowledge. 

c u 2morrow
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4 months ago

Monday February 16. 2026
“The wise know too well their weakness to assume infallibility: and he who knows most knows best how little he knows.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
4 months ago

Now this is what I call “class”…

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2026/02/16/congress-uap-obama-aliens-real-podcast/88699039007/

‘Obama says aliens are ‘real.’ ‘

______________________________________

Obama, phone home…!!!

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Allen
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Allen
4 months ago
Reply to  The Real Guest

Like Obama said, given the vastness of the universe.
To think we the only ones in it is pretty egotistical.
I am sure your god saw that he could do better and kept trying.

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
4 months ago
Reply to  Allen

Let me get this straight…

Are you saying that God created aliens before or after God created Man…

You’re bouncing all over the galactic chart…

In my opinion, what is most egotistical, is to deny the existence of God, and/or to pompously claim that Man created God…

Anyone that would entertain the idea of the existence of extra terrestrials, but not also entertain the idea of the existence of God, is seriously contradicting, and therefore also discrediting, themselves…

Kris
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Kris
4 months ago
Reply to  The Real Guest

Man has created gods since the beginning of time.

I consulted my ai god about this. She proclaimed: “Actually, there’s no contradiction there. We have a ‘sample size of one’ for life (Earth), which proves that life is physically possible under the right conditions. We have zero samples of a deity. Expecting to find life elsewhere in a universe with trillions of planets isn’t a leap of faith; it’s a statistical probability based on chemistry and physics. Acknowledging our insignificance in that vastness isn’t ‘denying God’—it’s just being honest about the scale of the map.”

To me personally it’s a great and beautiful mystery.

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Testy
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Testy
4 months ago
Reply to  Kris

Aliens may or may not exist. But their existence has zero bearing on the metaphysical architecture that makes existence possible.

Aliens and man, are creatures inside the universe. God (as commonly defined) is a proposed explanation for the existence of the universe itself!

Physics /science can evaluate the first.
It cannot, even in principle, evaluate the second.

Kris
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Kris
4 months ago
Reply to  Testy

If God is used as an “explanation for the existence of the universe,” then God is essentially a hypothesis. If science eventually explains the origin of the universe through quantum fluctuations or M-theory, the “metaphysical architecture” shrinks. Using God as a placeholder for what we don’t yet understand is a logical fallacy known as the God of the Gaps..

As Dawkins asks “ who created god?”

Testy
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Testy
4 months ago
Reply to  Kris

Try again. A hypothesis is a testable statement about things inside the universe.

Kris
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Kris
4 months ago
Reply to  Testy

You don’t test this Christian God, if you do bad things happen.

What about multi universes? Is there an infinite number of universes created by an infinite number of gods?

What about the string cheese incident? Is the universe made up of string cheese?

It’s all quite confusing.

Testy
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Testy
4 months ago
Reply to  Kris

Shifting the conversation into surreal humor isn’t an answer, it’s a soft concession, and I’ll take it.

You have just acknowledged that there’s no real challenge to the grounded definition of a hypothesis, so the discussion slipped into jokes instead of salient arguments.

If the topic feels ‘confusing,’ I concur, that’s exactly the point where metaphysics and faith enter the chat…

Kris
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Kris
4 months ago
Reply to  Testy

Saying hypotheses only apply to things inside the universe confuses methodological limits with logical ones, what matters is testability via effects, not where the cause is located.
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Testy
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Testy
4 months ago
Reply to  Kris

I thought you gave up and went for the diversion of cracking jokes.. Are you sure you want to double down?

A hypothesis must generate testable predictions inside the universe. That’s not a methodological preference, it’s what testability literally means.

To test a hypothesis, you need: time, space, causal regularity, measurable effects, stable laws, and instruments or senses interacting with phenomena.

Those things only exist inside the universe. If the “cause” (God?) is outside spacetime or outside physical law, then: it produces no physical signals. No measurable footprints, no falsifiable predictions, no interaction events, …which means it is not testable by empirical science.

That’s not a philosophical choice.
That’s the very definition of empirical testing. Saying that “effects matter, not the location of the cause” doesn’t help your argument.

If a cause is outside the universe, it cannot produce measurable effects inside the universe unless it interacts with physical law. If it interacts with physical law, it is inside the system, not outside.

You cannot have it both ways.

You cannot say:

“The cause is outside the universe”
and “Its effects are measurable within the universe” because measurable effects are physical events governed by physical law.

You’re sneaking the (creation- what came before ) entity back into the universe in order to test it. It’s impossible and is the exact category error I’ve pointed out like a half dozen times. 🙃

in short : Testability requires measurable effects within the universe. If a cause produces physical effects, then it belongs to the domain of physics. If it does not produce physical effects, then physics cannot test it.

Either way, origin-of-existence claims don’t become scientific hypotheses.

Kris
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Kris
4 months ago
Reply to  Testy

Science frequently models the measurable “output” of a system to infer the existence of an external “input,” regardless of whether we can directly see or define the nature of the source itself.
IE: Newton and gravity.
Dark matter.

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Testy
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Testy
4 months ago
Reply to  Kris

Inferring dark matter doesn’t explain why spacetime exists; it just explains how mass curves it. You’re giving great examples of physics doing physics – not physics explaining existence.

You insist on trying to use intra-universe inference as if it solves extra-universe origin, and that’s why you keep looping.

You are unwilling to acknowledge the boundary, (because acknowledging it collapses your whole “science can explain everything including existence” stance.)

In any cosmology where ‘creation’ is the topic, if there was truly nothing, then there was nothing to fluctuate, nothing to bend, nothing to ‘quantum.’ Every model you cite with gravity, vacuum states, multiverses etc already presupposes laws, fields, math, and structure. In other words, all your examples assume the very something you’re trying to explain away! 🙃

You’re invoking mechanisms that only operate inside an existing universe. None of them touch the Origin/Creator/God question. They all smuggle in a pre-existing ‘something’ which you have failed to grasp is exactly what the discussion was about.

What created what came before the big bang? How can something (literally the entire universe) can’t come from nothing? There was energy. From where ?

In the end no one can do this for you; questions of origins cross into metaphysics whether we like it or not. No one gets to outsource that work. The deepest questions are an inside job . ✨

Kris
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Kris
4 months ago
Reply to  Testy

If a deity can be self-existent, why can’t the universe (or the quantum laws that birthed it) be self-existent?

Kicking Bull
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Kicking Bull
4 months ago
Reply to  Kris

omderangedhumanity… Thou Art That which thou so doubts- that profound self- doubt is not some cosmic coaccidence- it is derangement

D'Tucker Jebs
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4 months ago
Reply to  The Real Guest

Pastafarian theology teaches that the Flying Spaghetti Monster got drunk and accidently created life on Earth.
Considering that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is frequently drunk, it is entirely possible that he has created life in countless other places as well.

Testy
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Testy
4 months ago
Reply to  The Real Guest

Your remark forces everyone to face a simple truth; whether you believe in God, don’t believe, or don’t care, this remains true: Science can describe how the universe behaves. It cannot, even theoretically, explain why there is a universe to describe.

That domain is not accessible through empirical tools. It belongs to metaphysics.

Kris
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Kris
4 months ago
Reply to  Testy

“Why is there something rather than nothing?” is not obviously outside science

The idea that this question is in principle unanswerable by science is a philosophical assertion, not a demonstrated fact.
Modern physics already explores:

• quantum vacuum states
• spontaneous symmetry breaking
• cosmological inflation
• multiverse hypotheses
• models where “nothing” is unstable

These are scientific attempts to address the origin of the universe. Whether they succeed is open, but it’s false to say science cannot even theoretically address the question.

Metaphysics doesn’t automatically provide better answers

my god is copilot-

Testy
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Testy
4 months ago
Reply to  Kris

Again. I beg to differ . Saying this a philosophical assertion is where you (or your bot?) start to get lost in the weeds.

It’s structural facts about what the scientific method is.
You cannot:
run experiments without time,
measure quantities without laws,
model behavior without equations,
theorize without a mathematical substrate.

Science operates within an already-existing order. It cannot investigate the cause of that order.

That doesn’t mean Metaphysics win. It’s not competing with physics. It’s the framework for asking the questions that physics is not built to answer.

Physics can explore the behavior of early-universe states, but every model starts with an existing structure: a vacuum, a field, laws, or a mathematical substrate. None address why that structure exists in the first place.

“Why is there something rather than nothing?” is a boundary condition of the scientific method. That’s why the question sits at the intersection of cosmology, metaphysics, and the philosophy of science.

Calling that a “God-of-the-gaps” move misunderstands the issue. No one is plugging God into a temporary ignorance; but instead, recognizing a domain that science is not designed to operate in.

Kris
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Kris
4 months ago
Reply to  Testy

I disagree. What you’re describing is a philosophical claim, not a structural limit of science. The scientific method doesn’t require prior metaphysical commitments about “why laws exist”; it simply brackets them. Science has repeatedly turned what once looked like “given structure” into objects of explanation (e.g., spacetime, vacuum energy, symmetry breaking). 
deepseek speaks-

Testy
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Testy
4 months ago
Reply to  Kris

At the risk of redundancy, those are models within existence.

They presuppose laws, fields, time, or mathematical structure. That’s not the question we are addressing.

Physics explains how things behave once they exist; it doesn’t explain why existence is possible.

Kris
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Kris
4 months ago
Reply to  Testy

They are working on it.

Quantum Fluxuation
The Mathmatical Universe

Because there is such a law as gravity, the universe can and will create itself.
Steven Hawkings

Lets throwing multi universes. It was bound to happen.

Testy
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Testy
4 months ago
Reply to  Kris

“Because there is such a law as gravity, the universe can and will create itself?”

oh yes, break out the drunk Hawking quotes to keep the crowd happy and comfortable 👍

but actually….A law cannot explain why there is a universe in which the law exists. It’s a circular and flimsy thought process that has already been called out by Hawking’s own peers as trash!

Leonard Susskind :” you cannot use the laws of physics to explain the origin of the laws of physics.”

Roger Penrose : called Hawking’s claim “misleading, because mathematical laws do not create anything.”

Paul Davies: “Laws of physics do not exist in a void. They presuppose a framework. You cannot use the laws themselves to explain the origin of the universe.”

And even the gold standard , Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (SEP) states bluntly: “No scientific theory currently explains why there is a physical universe rather than nothing at all.” …which is academic-code for: Hawking’s quote does not do what he, or anyone else thinks it does.

It’s not an origin explanation , it’s a rhetorical illusion that hides the glaring category error.

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Kris
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Kris
4 months ago
Reply to  Testy

“Hawking’s claim works because in quantum cosmology the laws aren’t external creators but built‑in features of the universe’s wavefunction, so explaining the universe through them isn’t circular at all.”

Testy
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Testy
4 months ago
Reply to  Kris

Lol Suddenly “wavefunction” is some primordial jelly that explains everything?

In quantum cosmology, the wavefunction is not an origin mechanism.
It is a representation of the universe given certain laws and boundary conditions.

This is like saying: “The dictionary created the English language.”

No. The dictionary describes a language that already exists.

I do admire the tenacity of your stance; I guess the aversion to a Creator/God is strong….it’s actually adorable and very entertaining ….like watching someone try to solve the origin of existence using Russian nesting dolls and insisting each smaller doll is a different explanation, instead of noticing they’re all part of the same container. And perfectly exposes the pattern:Every time you get cornered on the category distinction, you have declared the next layer of math to be The Ultimate Origin Slime.

Gravity didn’t do it?
“Wavefunction!!”

Wavefunction doesn’t do it?
“Multiverse!”

Multiverse doesn’t do it?
“Quantum fluctuations!”

Quantum fluctuations don’t do it?
“String cheese!”

If an “origin explanation” requires pre-existing math, laws, operators, and structure… then congratulations, we didn’t start from nothing! We started from… something. (Which was the whole point from the start. 🙃 )

Kris
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Kris
4 months ago
Reply to  Testy

I believe science is more likely to explain why the universe exists than religion is to prove the existence of a god.

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4 months ago
Reply to  Kris

Not surprisingly, this isn’t an argument.
It’s a statement of faith – ironically the very thing you seem to cringe at the thought of others possessing!

Let’s read it again: “I believe science is more likely…”
Belief.
Likelihood.
Prediction.
No reasoning, no distinction, no engagement with the category issue.

You basically said: “I prefer the tool I already understand to solve a problem it’s not built for.”

Can’t pick the peach before it’s ready..Many scientists have hit the same epistemic wall you’re avoiding –and they didn’t implode. Cornered by the origin problem they realized: “Oh… this isn’t a physics question anymore.” Not because they subscribed to religion, but because they became honest. A few did become religious. Others became deists. Others became metaphysical agnostics. Others simply admitted: “The question of why there is something rather than nothing cannot be answered inside the system itself.”

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4 months ago
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Science will prove why the universe exists before religion proves there is a god.

Saying it cannot be answered from within the system is an assertion, not a demonstrated limit—and history shows that questions once thought “outside the system” often become explainable as the system itself expands

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4 months ago
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Wanting science to answer the origin question doesn’t make it structurally capable of doing so.

Yes, History shows science expands within the universe; nothing in history shows science explaining why a universe exists.

That’s the distinction you keep skipping.

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4 months ago
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The universe may require a new kind of intelligibility.
Somewhere in this universe or beyond there is the answer.

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4 months ago
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Nice ✨

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4 months ago
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Get to know Silence and you will know God. All beliefs- everything outside direct experience- must be dropped

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4 months ago
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The quietest place I’ve experienced is mid-Pacific Ocean in Summer in the high-pressure Doldrums. Next quietest in isolated canyons branching off Titus Canyon above Death Valley where heartbeat can be heard echoing off the walls, along with the coordinated chirping of Barrel cacti. Around here the fleeting silence of a still Autumn day.

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4 months ago
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“It cannot, even theoretically, explain why there is a universe to describe.”

WTF are you smoking?

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4 months ago
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Well that’s a mighty thoughtful contribution tell 😆 escalated right to a hostile tone because ya hit a wall.

“WTF are you smoking?” The universal sign that someone doesn’t understand the argument, has no clue how to challenge it, doesn’t want to look intellectually outmatched, so instead chooses to respond with tone instead of content. Flag on the play!

Notably: you quoted this line: “It cannot, even theoretically, explain why there is a universe to describe.” That’s the line you can’t shake off? And just had to react to emotionally instead of trying to dismantle, or digest logically?

I want to think you can do better. ✨

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4 months ago
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“instead chooses to respond with tone instead of content”

That is a very apt description of your own comment.

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4 months ago
Reply to  ABA

Really. WTF isn’t a rebuttal. If you have an argument showing how physics can operate without laws, spacetime, causality, or a mathematical framework, make it. Otherwise you’re just reacting, not responding.”

I hit the one boundary that scientism cannot cross. And despite your “you too” claim I did it without getting rude.

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4 months ago
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Angels are here for my people first.
And I’m speeking in English. Not Angél, you just need to come twice a month now WITH THE LAWN!! THE PRECIP!??

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4 months ago

More Liberal Democrat ridiculousness and absolute absurdity…

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/schumer-pushes-bill-give-pride-flag-same-status-us-military-flags?dicbo=v2-MxYYuOA&intcmp=fn_amp_ob_more_from

‘Schumer pushes bill to give Pride flag same status as US, military flags’

“Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., is making a push to have the Pride flag considered on the same level as the U.S. flag in the eyes of the federal government.”

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Chuck Schumer is a complete idiot…

And he hasn’t even chimed in yet, on the existence of little green men from outer space…

Talk about trying to fix something that isn’t a problem…

Voter ID is a far more important issue to “identify” with than the elevation of the Federal status of the Pride Flag…

Chuck Schumer should probably focus his full energy on trying to pull his head out of his ass…

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4 months ago
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You do realize that the push for voter ID is also the push to ban mail-in voting, don’t you? Which in turn is going to make it harder to vote for millions of citizens and reduce our already low voter turnout. Which leads to the people who vote being largely restricted to those with the most outrage and the most free time and money.

That’s the plan. That’s why there’s a push for it. Not to solve any real problems with voting but to limit voting to the most easily swayed.

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4 months ago
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“You do realize that the push for voter ID is also the push to ban mail-in voting, don’t you?”

-Tim-

Says whom…???

Link please, evidence please…

Without supporting evidence, that just sounds like kind of a paranoid Anti Trump conspiracy theory to me, Tim…

Got anything at all to back that speculative allegation up with, besides uncorroborated vicious rumors…???

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4 months ago
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Fact: women shunt be voters. They’re bad at it and they can’t be trusted.
Thanks for backn me up on this one.

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4 months ago
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Ironic you should think it’s anti-Trump — https://www.npr.org/2025/08/18/nx-s1-5506210/trump-mail-in-ballots-ban

The MEGA Act recently introduced in Congress has this bullet list of actions:

  • Require photo identification to vote 
  • Require states to verify citizenship of individuals when registering to vote 
  • Implement stronger routine voter list maintenance requirements in states 
  • Require mail-in ballots to be received by the close of polls on election day 
  • Require states to use auditable paper ballots 
  • Ban ballot harvesting  
  • Ban ranked choice voting 
  • Ban universal vote by mail 

https://cha.house.gov/2026/1/chairman-steil-unveils-the-make-elections-great-again-act

And the recently passed SAVE Act includes this requirement:

“The legislation would require people to provide proof of citizenship “in person” when registering to vote in federal elections, and adds an additional requirement that voters show an approved form of photo identification to cast their ballot. It also places new rules on mail-in voting, requiring Americans to send in a copy of their ID when both requesting and submitting their ballot.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/02/12/what-is-the-save-act-voter-id-rules/88642716007/

Unless you have a photocopier or scanner at home, that last one will be a bit tough and will effectively reduce or eliminate vote-by-mail.

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4 months ago
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Here it is straight from the jackass’s mouth.

Trump wants to ban universal mail in voting and voting machines

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/18/nx-s1-5506210/trump-mail-in-ballots-ban

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4 months ago
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Here’s a scenario if that comes to fruition: Highways in rural traditionally red areas are shut down due to heavy November election day snows. Nobody is getting anywhere, even the vote center staff. 200,000 people from Bozeman to Boise can’t vote due to new laws that eliminated mail-in ballots, thus causing the inner city Democrat dwellers to win their local election because they didn’t have to travel to the polls. Bit of a hike in the snow but they managed.

Actions have consequences.

D'Tucker Jebs
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4 months ago
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Good on Schumer for addressing something that is an actual problem.
Last week the Department of the Interior removed the Pride Flag from the Stonewall National Monument, saying that non-agency flags could not be officially displayed.
By designating the Pride Flag as a congressionally authorized symbol, the flag would be allowed to remain at this place where it quite rightfully belongs.

Now, if you could show that voter fraud is an actual problem, maybe that would warrant a discussion about requiring ID.
Until then, your claims about fraud remain as unsubstantiated as your claim that alien life comes in the form of “little green men”.

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4 months ago
Reply to  D'Tucker Jebs

“Little green men” is “literally” a figure of speech, not a description of aliens…

Use your imagination, Jebs…

Their is substantially more evidence of the actual existence of voter fraud, than there is evidence of aliens actually being real…

Let’s not kid ourselves…

And by flying the LGBTQ pride flag, it excludes and alienates all others that the pride flag does not, in fact, also represent…

The American flag is all inclusive…

The pride flag is as exclusive, or more, than it is inclusive, which makes it, in fact, discriminatory, by definition…

If it doesn’t include everyone, it is excluding others…

This is America…

This is not “Never Never Land”…

America already has an all inclusive American Flag, which represents all Americans…

Any other Flag is superfluous and therefore unnecessary…

And an exclusive “Pride” Flag, that doesn’t include and represent all Americans, is therefore Un-American…

Chuck Schumer is a fucking maroon…

D'Tucker Jebs
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4 months ago
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This has been gone over ad nauseum.

  • “A comprehensive 2014 study published in The Washington Post found 31 credible instances of impersonation fraud from 2000 to 2014, out of more than 1 billion ballots cast. Even this tiny number is likely inflated, as the study’s author counted not just prosecutions or convictions, but any and all credible claims.
  • Two studies done at Arizona State University, one in 2012 and another in 2016, found similarly negligible rates of impersonation fraud. The project found 10 cases of voter impersonation fraud nationwide from 2000–2012. 

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/debunking-voter-fraud-myth

And how does flying the Pride Flag exclude anyone?
You are still perfectly well allowed to visit the Stonewall National Monument.
Is it un-American for states to fly their own flag?
Does that somehow discriminate against people who are not residents of that state?

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4 months ago
Reply to  D'Tucker Jebs

And just exactly how many credible instances of aliens proven to be real, like BHObama claimed…???

More, or, less…???

I already explained to you that unless the pride flag represents everyone in America, then it is discriminatory in it’s inclusion of only a subset of subsets, and it’s exclusion of all others, Jebs…

Simple…

It’s just common sense.

It might fly as far as you are concerned, but it doesn’t fly for me, as far as I am concerned…

The American Flag suffices, suffice it to say…

It represents every American, without discriminatory inclusion, or discriminatory exclusion…

State flags represent every member of that Flag’s state, and that state, as a whole…

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4 months ago
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Can we sum that up into a good one-liner?!
I’d like to put it on a hat.
Thanks. You get 4%

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4 months ago
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Net!
4%of PROFITS.
after admin
Get it straight

Allen
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Allen
4 months ago
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Fuck Trump.

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Tawney
4 months ago

As an epistemological position, solipsism holds that knowledge of anything outside one’s own mind is unsure; the external world and other minds cannot be known and might not exist outside the mind.

Wikipedia

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4 months ago

Chuck Schumer shuts down the Government again…

Another idiotic Liberal Democrat step in the wrong direction…

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/schumer-dems-choose-partial-shutdown-negotiations-hit-impasse

‘Schumer, Dems choose partial shutdown as negotiations hit impasse’

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4 months ago
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Ah, more of that faux outrage. This is what I was writing about earlier. Tell me, who is it that sent Congress home last Thursday?

https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/12/politics/department-homeland-security-government-shutdown

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4 months ago
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Who needs FEMA, TSA, and the Coast Guard to get paid anyway. ICE is funded… the workers at the other three DHS entities mentioned will not get paid. Hooray for the Democrats – that’ll show em!

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Al Sign
4 months ago

Moslems are trying to out law keeping dogs as pets in NYC. If I had to choose I’d pick dogs. Dogs are great.

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4 months ago
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Al Sign
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Al Sign
4 months ago
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If I didn’t have to choose I’d still pick dogs.

Al Sign
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Al Sign
4 months ago
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Aloha Snackbar! Dogs are great!

Kris
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Kris
4 months ago
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dog spelled backwards is god.

Bill Hogoboom
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4 months ago
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They’re Eating The DOGS!

They’re Eating The CATS!

Allen
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4 months ago

 Here is a quiz for you. How many statements in the below post are inaccurate or misleading?

@realDonaldTrump
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Happy President’s Day! 
Prices and Inflation are Way Down.
The Stock Market, and your 401k’s, are Way Up. 
Our Military is Strong and Powerful, 
Our Law Enforcement is GREAT, and Our Border is 100% Secure. 
Murders (YEAR 1900!) and Crime are at RECORD LOWS, 
and Our Country is Bigger, Better, and Stronger than EVER BEFORE!!! Working Hard
– ENJOY YOUR DAY! President DJT

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Bill Hogoboom
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4 months ago
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Well, it is Presidents Day. He got that much right.

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4 months ago
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Former President Obama is outraged and equates the homelessness situation and encampments in LA to an atrocity especially considering the amount of money spent to have been wasted with no results. Translation: he must own property close to the problem encampments. There goes the neighborhood.

will ge
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will ge
4 months ago

Steve Bannon told Epstein Trump was ‘beyond borderline’ and unfit for office: file – Raw Story https://share.google/6vjUsBYU3bmxFVzBZ
Holy Hell! I agree!

will ge
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will ge
4 months ago

Rebel Republican shares startling post after heated clashes: ‘I am not suicidal’ – Raw Story https://share.google/XhBdRjxLf95C5G4Bi
He doesn’t want to end up like Epstein.

will ge
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will ge
4 months ago

https://www.thedailybeast.com/maga-exile-marjorie-taylor-greene-shreds-biggest-miscalculation-of-president-donald-trumps-career/
Well known leftist, and vice president of ANTIFA, Marjorie Taylor Green, lays it out.

Al Sign
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Al Sign
4 months ago

The alleged Rhode Island shooter was “trans” and a racist who was a fan of Nick Fuentes, Thomas Massie, and MTG.

D'Tucker Jebs
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4 months ago
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It’s also alleged that the shooter used a gun.

Guess where the Right is going to focus their attention.

Al Sign
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Al Sign
4 months ago
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He showed up with pink guns, allegedly.