Eureka Residents Ask What EPD ‘Plans on Doing For Us’ If Feds Come

Man at a podium in a ball cap.

COPP Boardmember Raul Torres

The intensity of federal immigration enforcement has put many U.S. cities – including Eureka — on edge, and residents want to know how the city’s police department will respond if it happens locally.  The actions of federal policing agencies and how to deal with them was the focus of a public comment period during the Jan. 27 meeting of Eureka’s Board of Community Oversight of Police Practices.

More than a dozen speakers told the board they’re frightened and disgusted by the way federal agencies like Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Patrol are conducting themselves.

Of high concern is aggressive response to protests and observation attempts.

A member of the local chapter of the nationwide Indivisible organization told of ICE’s detention and temporary incarceration of a woman who was pulled out of her car while tracking them.

“She said there was just constant noise, people crying, begging, pleading, children crying for their mothers, and it just made me sick,” the Indivisible member said. “And it amplifies the reason why we’re here – that we would like to have some police cooperation and consideration if ICE was to come to Humboldt County and that we need to have some communication in order to ensure that that kind of thing doesn’t happen.”

“I consider what ICE is doing across our country as domestic terrorism,” said another Indivisible member. “My kids have Hispanic last names. Are they going to get pulled over just because they have a Hispanic last name and then get taken away and sent off to some detention center to be terrorized and treated horrifically? If anyone’s watching the news, they’re seeing this stuff happen day in, day out, all day long.”

Like several other speakers, she wants to know “what the Eureka Police Department plans on doing for us, to communicate with us and tell us what we can expect from them.”

Although the Eureka Police Department’s history includes use of force and conduct controversies, it’s now well-regarded and several speakers said they have a lot of respect for it. But they questioned whether local police will provide protection if federal officers attack them.

“I want to ask this board – what will Eureka police do if masked ICE officers show up here, knock down peaceful protesters, pepper spray their faces and pistol whip them in front of the county courthouse for recording federal actions?” said Glen Caldwell. “Will Eureka PD stand by? Will they protect the people of Eureka? Will they arrest federal agents for assault?”

Saying “people are being executed on our streets for all to see,” another speaker implored the city to “work out police policies now to help protect us all from the crimes of ICE when they arrive.”

Federal presence in an area as remote as Humboldt County seems unlikely but those who spoke warned against assumptions.

“A beautiful thing about Humboldt is that we live in a bubble, but we can no longer pretend that this is not going to come here,” said one of the speakers. “And we need to be prepared because I think a lot of people in our community are afraid that this will escalate.”

After the public comment period, Boardmember Lawrence Givener read a statement “expressing my concern regarding the events unfolding in Minneapolis, Minnesota and other places.”

He said “so-called federal agents, in effect a militia, have deployed in Minneapolis, Minnesota under the guise of police or law enforcement,” operating “in group gangs” that greatly outnumber local police.

“They act with impunity, violently profiling, targeting and assaulting men, women, and children without reasonable suspicion, probable cause, or judicial warrant,” Givener continued.

Saying that small rural cities like Eureka “are not immune safe havens,” he said city police should report egregious federal actions as “critical incidents” to the board and county and state law enforcement agencies.

Boardmember Raul Torres agreed that the community should informed on how police would respond to federal operations.

“We have been in discussions about putting out some information, which will likely happen,” said City Manager Miles Slattery, adding that “we’ve put together informational sheets as well as a letter and we’re deciding on where we go with that, but there will be more information coming up.”

Slattery noted the oversight board’s “limited” scope but Torres vouched for a future agenda item on the interface between federal and local policing.

He suggested Eureka Police Chief Brian Stephens could “talk about what are EPD’s instructions as to what happens if there are phone calls about people saying ICE is doing something to them” and “what their practice will be because there are those expectations that people have.”

In an informal “thumbs up” vote, other boardmembers supported agendizing the discussion for a near future meeting.

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Kris
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Kris
4 months ago

I can tell you right now that even if local police did see a federal agent assaulting someone there would not be an arrest. They will do as they always do and call for an investigation.
Unless of course say a protester throws a sandwich at an agent then of course an arrest will be made.

Poking the bear,
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Poking the bear,
4 months ago
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Humboldt has a long history of racism.from the massacres of peaceful tribes to the forced removal of Asians. It also has a long history with mediocre law enforcement .

Permanently on Monitoring
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Permanently on Monitoring
4 months ago

Very true.

Mendo and Lake too!

Lake County is still full of the descendents…

Then there’s Garberville, which has no Police…

Disgusted
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Disgusted
4 months ago

Garberville isn’t a city. You get that right? Unincorporated rural community with a Sheriff’s office right next to the Library. Stop in and say hello to the nice deputies.

Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
4 months ago

And the rest of the world doesn’t?

Yabut
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Yabut
4 months ago
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The level of hysterics and stupidity that has infected too much of the public. This article is full of hyperbolic fear-mongering crap- like “My kids have Hispanic last names. Are they going to get pulled over just because they have a Hispanic last name..” yeah sure- people who Hispanic names ride around in cars doing absolutely nothing extraordinary but, since their cars painted with the words “Hispanic last name”, they are going to get stopped and arrested.

What the article labels “aggressive response to protests and observation attempts” is actually a response to aggressive interference of protesters by organized hounding of federal immigration officials with the same disregard for manners that paparazzi have in getting their celebrity photos. Imagine the brains that pretend that threatening to “disclose” where agents live with their families is not meant as their own threating. Gradually over the last few years, people have lost touch with what is peaceful protest to embrace the idea of ” no peace without justice” where the only people who get to define peace or justice are those attempting to prevent either. They complain about the thuggery of the Federal government when they intend the same thuggery themselves.

They are doing this in defense of people breaking the law, who have now been encouraged to think of themselves as having a right to ignore immigration regulations, which has become so convoluted and ineffective through hundreds of court cases with judges making hundreds of court orders anyway, that they can work at any job they want without any restrictions or regulation, using fraudulent ID anytime they want. And now they want to do it without fear of the law applying to them. Protesters hide their intention with pretending “it’s for the children. ” How cheap and abusive employers love the idea. Whole industries have business models that need endless supplies of controlable cheap illegal immigrants to make their businesses as profitable as they want.

The whole issue of immigration control has become such a farce that state and local government official see themselves as just fine opposing the Federal government. They promulgate their own regulations with abandon but even then selectively apply it. That people is what tyranny looks like too. Not just against Trump but anyone who wanted to screen, restrict or otherwise impede anyone wanting to live in the US from anywhere for any purpose for decades, where one of the biggest lobby groups in the country represents the interests of foreigners ignoring laws.

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Bill
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Bill
4 months ago
Reply to  Yabut

Well spoken, Yabut!!

That is absolute truth, and what is really going on. The huge problem we have in this country are paid organized mobs/demonstrators opposing anything federal government. Further exasperating the issue is a media that is extremely biased and promotes the slandered stories on a daily basis with constant coverage and the same “sound bites and video snippets” taken out of context.

True Journalism is dead in this country.

Disgusted
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Disgusted
4 months ago
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LMAO. The right has ALWAYS claimed “paid agitators” from the left but the truth is, the agitators have always been from the right, the opposition, and ANTI-DEMOCRATIC AUTOCRATIC racists. Paid to cause trouble so the cops can whack heads. You crack me up! This has gone on since the 60s.

Zach Rotwein
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Zach Rotwein
4 months ago
Reply to  Bill

Alot of HSU taught and degreed local journalists were indoctrinated with hard left ideologies by the teachers tenured there. I know because I used to drink quite a bit with the Dean of that department

Timb0
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4 months ago
Reply to  Bill

Paid demonstrators? Where’s MY check??

Mr. Clark
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4 months ago
Reply to  Yabut

You are spot on with this analysis of protesters/rioters. But i think it will be uncomprehended by those that need to know it most.

When ICE comes here, EPD and the Sheriff office need to turn over anyone in custody who is not a citizen, instead of releasing them. And assist with the apprehension of those warranted for deportation. Anyone who interferes with this process should be arrested. Welcome to reality.

triniboldticino
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triniboldticino
4 months ago
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The reality I see from Yabut, Bill and Mr. Clark is they’re willing to have a full blown untrained, $50K bonused, unqualified gestapo sneaking around schools, hospitals and home depot parking lots grabbing up brown people. And when a true, patriot to the constitution speaks up, pin him down and pump him full. One of my cousins was CO for CBP in a region for years. Another friend was CO CBP in the Caribbean. They’re both disgusted with what’s going on. Now they’re randomly shooting everyone with pepper balls just for fun. And told to do whatever they want because they have sovereign immunity. Making America Great Again! Pray for the grandchildren.

Mr. Clark
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4 months ago

Well thats just not true. YOU are telling lies. Just stop.

Here is what ICE faces as they do their job.
On Tuesday night, a compilation of VCU nurse Malinda Cook’s TikTok videos was shared by popular X account LibsOfTikTok.
In one video, simply captioned with “#ice #resistance #sabotage,” the nurse instructed others to use a “sabotage tactics” against opponents.
“I thought of something good,” she said.
“Sabotage tactic, or at least scare tactic. All the medical providers, grab some syringes with needles on the end,” she said. “Have them full of saline or succinylcholine, you know, whatever. Whatever. That will probably be a deterrent. Be safe.”
Succinylcholine is an anesthetic that causes rapid, short-acting muscle paralysis. The paralytic effect typically lasts for four to six minutes.
In another video where she is dressed in scrubs, she suggests using poison ivy, to infect others as a “resistance tactic.” She explained that by mixing poison ivy or poison oak with water, it could be turned into a spray to infect opponents.

https://www.fox news.com/us/medical-watchdog-unloads-vcu-after-nurse-fired-viral-anti-ice-tiktok-video-suggested-drugging-agents

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Fly On The Wall
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4 months ago

And when a true, patriot to the constitution speaks up, pin him down and pump him full.”

A true patriot to the US Constitution would be familiar with The Supremacy Clause (Article VI, Clause 2), which makes federal law (including immigration enforcement) the supreme law of the land, overriding conflicting state actions.

That doesn’t excuse abuses if they occur, but it does mean federal agents enforcing federal statutes aren’t “gestapo” for doing their job under the law.

No one is above the law — remember?

Xhumboldter
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Xhumboldter
4 months ago

Oh baloney.

Disgusted
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Disgusted
4 months ago
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Protesting is not rioting. We have the right to stand up to tyranny. Americans are not going to stand for tyranny tho it seems many here in Humboldt are all for it. First they came for them. America needs a swifter path to citizenship. THAT would end this madness. Human beings are not illegal.

Fly On The Wall
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4 months ago
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Enforcing U.S. immigration law is NOT tyranny.

Illegal immigrants should use the CBP Home app to self-deport as soon as possible so they’ll still have an opportunity to enter the U.S. legally.

https://www.dhs.gov/cbphome

Barbara Leonard
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Barbara Leonard
4 months ago
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Unfortunately, there is video of “protests” turning into violent rioting in cities like Chicago, Los Angelus, Minneapolis, Portland Oregon and previously NYC. Portland Oregon had to admit the two shot trying to flee were gang members from Venezuela who should be deported. The two shot in Minnesota are still under investigation. Let’s wait until the facts have been revealed before we leap on myths made up by ideologues.

I know Texas has been deporting with no riots or violence, Florida the same. The reason for that is their leadership is co-operating with the Feds. The law has been in place since 1787 and federal law supersedes the state laws. Deportation is necessary, especially when criminals come here and commit crimes against Americans.

Human beings who swim across rivers, climb walls meant to deter illegal’s entry, or are flown in by our government to avoid vetting are of illegal status. We had millions flow in from 2021-2024 because the laws re: immigration were ignored by the former administration.

Unfortunately, it is the taxpayer who funds illegals in several states. That’s the problem. People with no sponsors and no family here, who are not seeking to become citizens and have been dispersed around the country, are receiving tax payer dollars to remain here. They are illegal and they are humans and tax payer dollars from citizens should not be funding them.

Homeland security offers a deal to self deport for those who sincerely want/need to be here. Thousands have taken the deal. The rest are already in prison or still on the streets and subways committing heinous crimes. Those are the people ICE is trying to deport. If they are not citizens of our country, they do not deserve “due process”. Presidents have deported many more than Trump without the hassle, so get over your TDS and let ICE do its job.

willow creeker
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4 months ago
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If you are ok with federal troops coming in against the will of the states leaders and its citizens, and killing innocent people, then you are not a Republican. You are not a Libertarian. You are part of the 30% of the population that is Trumps ‘base’, who thinks he can do nothing wrong.

Yabut
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Yabut
4 months ago
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Your petty desire to tar me with the Progressive brush of Trump is dishonest. I blame what liberals have morphed into for Trump winning two elections in the first place. Their extremism, and their idiot obsession with him, led to Trump to winning. Favoring being dishonest in so much does not mean people who oppose that dishonesty are Trump’s base. They very well might just hate the corruption of the left more than they find Trump distasteful.

Yes. I’m fine with coming in against the “will” of “state leaders and it’s citizen” if those people have become addicted to destructive self interest over the good of the general population. You define “innocent” very loosely. And very much suspect with self interest. Allowing illegal immigration to thrive even when against the law is corruption that both Republicans and Democrats have turned a blind eye to for sheer greed.

Local and state government infected with bought and sold self interest, by bribery, criminal activity, corruption or intimidation, earns the loss of autonomy. It has done so in cases of gerrymandering, voter intimidation, lobbying abuse, election fraud,state sanctioned violence, interstate crime, etc. The Federal government has done so whenever Congress has legislated enough to act to override or limit unassigned state powers. It did so with the civil rights act, Ricco statues, mail and wire fraud, foreign agent laws, etc.

In Skilling versus US, The high court made clear that Congress has broad authority to criminalize “corrupt” conduct, but to do so must clearly define the conduct it wishes to regulate. This article evaluates the impact of the Skilling decision on federal prosecutions of state and local government officials, and proposes a new federal criminal prohibition on acceptance of high-value illegal gratuities by state and local employees.”

Unfortunately for the sanctuary state advocates, Congress didn’t even need to do that. Immigration is broadly defined as a federal power in the bloody Constitution itself. Not a state’s power. And all the disingenuous pettifogging about snot being forced to spend money on helping the Federal government deal with it is totally dishonest lawyer crap.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.2753/PIN1099-9922140405
https://www.cato.org/blog/public-corruption-federalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honest_services_fraud

willow creeker
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4 months ago
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Yes. I’m fine with coming in against the “will” of “state leaders and it’s citizen” if those people have become addicted to destructive self interest over the good of the general population. You define “innocent” very loosely. “
So you’re in favor of the federal govt coming in to ‘save’ the people of Minneapolis from themselves. And they are not ‘innocent’ if they protest. I see what you’re saying. Thanks for proving my point.

Yabut
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Yabut
4 months ago
Reply to  willow creeker

Again you get it wrong. You used those words. I did not. And then, having imposed your own words, you then ignore everything I did say. That’s dishonest and irrational.

triniboldticino
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triniboldticino
4 months ago
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Pot meet kettle.

willow creeker
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4 months ago
Reply to  Yabut

Well, you do say a lot. I don’t have time for multiple paragraph replies. But I do get your angle. I just strongly (strongly) disagree with you. I am glad your views are a tiny minuscule percent of the populations view, or we would be in big trouble.

laura cooskey
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laura cooskey
4 months ago
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Evidently Yabut’s views are shared by much of the population in this country… the ones who would not elect Kamala Harris, but let Trump win. Not that they were Trump fans, but they just could not bring themselves to support what the Democrats have become.
And we are seemingly indeed in deep trouble! But we don’t all share the same opinion of why that is.

Sick of Socialists
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Sick of Socialists
4 months ago
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“I don’t have time”

Translation: I do not have a rational argument, so I resort to petty tactics to deflect from the weakness of my position.

triniboldticino
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triniboldticino
4 months ago
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Ah. So you’re all for authoritarianism but from somebody “better than trump.” I get it.

Yabut
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Yabut
4 months ago

People who singularly “don’t get it” keep saying that.

Mr. Clark
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4 months ago
Reply to  willow creeker

I am. Its one of the things i voted for. Let them do their job. Its also more than 30%. Maybe a silent majority.

”and killing innocent people” LOL no they picked a fight with Law Enforcement. Far form innocent. Dont lie.

Mr. Clark
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4 months ago
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An i do agree ICE officials F-ed up with pretti. But pretti put himself in that position. Just like good did.

Jamie Currier
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Jamie Currier
4 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

Goode was trying to get home, and Pretti was there to help people. Just because you want to stay home, doesn’t mean that people who don’t stay home deserve to be murdered.

I like stars
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I like stars
4 months ago
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Goode deliberately sought out agents and parked sideways in a traffic lane to obstruct them. She was not “trying to get home”. Pretti was part of an organized group. He didn’t just stumble onto the scene. He was dispatched. He arrived, armed, intending to confront agents, not “to help people”.

Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
4 months ago
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You really dont get it. These people were there to impede law enforcement and did exactly that.

Barbara Leonard
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Barbara Leonard
4 months ago
Reply to  Jamie Currier

After the investigation shows all of the facts re: Goode we can debate whether she was “just trying to get home”. She was there all day harassing the agents. The agents stopped her car and asked her to get out of the car. She refused and started to drive away, there is a video of the agent being caught off guard because his hand was on the door handle. Her partner told her to “drive, baby drive”, when agents were surrounding her car. She hit the gas, hit one of the agents and was shot.

The moral of this story is just what I was taught growing up: if law enforcement requests something, comply do not resist and definitely do not cause injury to a federal agent. I hate what happened to Goode, but I also know resisting law enforcement is going to end badly so if you are “innocent” just do what they say.

Sick of Socialists
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Sick of Socialists
4 months ago
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LOL. “Trying to get home” aka blocking a road, blaring the horn, while filming an antagonizing agents and trying to run one over. Intentionally or negligently, doesn’t matter.

”Help people” aka obstruct and antagonize agents while carrying a gun. ANYONE with a concealed carry permit is taught to avoid potentially dangerous situations, and NEVER put yourself in a situation where you may have to use your gun or in which it could cause you harm. It’s a LAST RESORT TOOL.

Both were stupid. Both are dead.

Amazing you care more about them than the truly innocent people murdered by illegals.

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willow creeker
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4 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

I think there is nothing wrong with protesting against a federal government that has overreached. That’s actually what our country was founded on. If you think it’s ok to kill citizens who are going against masked agents, then you’d probably be on the side of the Brit back in the 1770’s.

Yabut
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Yabut
4 months ago
Reply to  willow creeker

Most people are more John Adams defending those British soldiers against the mob because it is honest. That too is what our country was founded on. And bares a lot of things in common with comments on this site.

https://www.thehistoryreader.com/us-history/john-adams-defense-boston-massacre-soldiers/

Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
4 months ago
Reply to  willow creeker

Impedence is not protesting.

Barbara Leonard
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Barbara Leonard
4 months ago
Reply to  willow creeker

What about the masked protesters (BLM and Antifa) urging the resistance and supplying projectiles, incendiary devices and signs? There is nothing wrong with protesting anything, however when it becomes mob violence and uncontrollable, the “innocent” protesters should try to bring calm instead of joining in. They definitely should not bring weapons designed to injure or kill federal agents because that will end badly for them.

As terrible as two deaths are, it’s amazing to me there are not more. How would you like being attacked by a mob incited by people paid to cause chaos? The agents on the ground are just there to deport people already in prison or jail or on the streets and still breaking the law. Over 50% of Americans approve of deporting the criminal element of illegals here in our country.

Al Sign
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4 months ago
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“Caring for people was the core of who he was. He was incapable of causing harm…..”

https://x.com/mazemoore/status/2016676363277664512?s=20

Barbara Leonard
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Barbara Leonard
4 months ago
Reply to  willow creeker

You have to go back to the Clinton years to understand why the Feds have more rights than the states when it comes to deporting undocumented (illegal). Your comment referencing “killing innocent people” as if ICE is randomly shooting at everyone is simply untrue. Two unfortunate deaths have occurred. They are being investigated. The last polling showed over 50% of the population is for deporting the criminal element of those who crossed our border illegally.

Testy
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Testy
4 months ago
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No s***.

Disgusted
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Disgusted
4 months ago
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WOW, paranoid much? Protesting an illegal government activity is about as American as you can get. Our first amendment rights are not yet suspended so we are in the streets fighting the oppression of a fascist leaning administration in DC. Human rights are a thing and we’re standing up even for the one’s who don’t get it. The only “hounding” going on is from the so called ICE agents in our cities. The pardoned J6 INCEL ARMY. THEY are the illegal brown shirts of Trump’s mind boggling Russian agenda.

Yabut
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Yabut
4 months ago
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The case John Adams defended against the British soldiers involved in the Boston Massacre addresses this- “Adams sang the praises of self-defense, as any defense lawyer would have, but he went on to set the scene in King Street on the night of March 5 in a manner worthy of a playwright: “the people shouting, huzzaing, and making the mob whistle as they call it, which when a boy makes it in the street, is no formidable thing, but when made by a multitude, is a most hideous shriek, …in this situation, would not have concluded they were going to kill him.” Then Adams asked the jurymen to imagine the scene in reverse, with the supposedly martyred townspeople facing a howling men of redcoats—this, he said, “should bring it home to our own bosoms.”

https://www.thehistoryreader.com/us-history/john-adams-defense-boston-massacre-soldiers/

Barbara Leonard
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Barbara Leonard
4 months ago
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It is not “illegal government activity” The supremacy law was established in 1787 and is part of the constitution. It clearly states the Federal government has “supremacy over the states”. Opposing them is against the law so using that excuse to become a mob, resisting and attacking federal law enforcement, proves “that dog don’t hunt”.

BTW, it has been announced Putin is willing to end all aggression against Ukraine. Don’t know what “mind boggling Russian agenda” you are referring to because the only agenda I know about is the desire to bring the Russia vs. Ukraine war to a halt. Apparently, step one has been achieved.

Sick of Socialists
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Sick of Socialists
4 months ago
Reply to  Disgusted

Apparently you do not understand the definition of “illegal”.

Cliffs notes: It does not mean whatever you want it to.

Xhumboldter
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Xhumboldter
4 months ago
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Amen. Where were the protesters when Obama deported over 5 million illegal immigrants? My ancestors immigrated to America, got jobs, learned the language and became legal citizens. That’s the right way to do it.

Timb0
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4 months ago
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Yabut sounds like a suspiciously immigrant name.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
4 months ago
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Best not protest with ICE out there, crack me up. Good time to do some surfing in New Zealand.

Hide n Go Seek!
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Hide n Go Seek!
4 months ago
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…or just HIDE!

Cynthia Thompson
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Cynthia Thompson
4 months ago
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To do something to our well needed law enforcement for enforcing laws, and then act like nothing should be done to you, is insane. Im just a regular person, but if you throw a sandwich at me, things are not going ro end smoothly.

Quantum Quipster
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4 months ago

Our community is right in being fearful of a possible invasion.

“Here’s how the process works. First, federal officers (mainly from ICE and the Border Patrol) engage in extraordinarily aggressiveand lawless conduct, including initiating physical contact with protesters or members of the public.
And they’re not limiting their aggression to criminal illegal immigrants, the “worst of the worst.” They’re detaining people who have been granted lawful status, they’ve swept up citizens in the dragnet and they’re claiming the authority to enter people’s homes without judicial warrants granting them a right to search…
Protests make MAGA mad. Journalism makes MAGA mad. Accountability makes MAGA mad. And the anger keeps building until a single sentence starts to spread across the length and breadth of Trump’s base: “Invoke the Insurrection Act.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/29/opinion/truump-ice-minnesota-noem-miller.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

Kym Kemp
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4 months ago

That’s an interesting and well-argued piece.

Mr. Clark
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4 months ago
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Yeah. It could be/is good fiction for Netflix series.

Quantum Quipster
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4 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

Did you read it? Cite sources to your objections please.

triniboldticino
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triniboldticino
4 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

But QQ made his point and you simply locked it in as fact.

Mr. Clark
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4 months ago

IT is not fact. It is embellished hyperbole.

triniboldticino
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triniboldticino
4 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

“Embellished hyperbole” has been fed to the intellectually challenged followers since 2015. But some are beginning to crack when overcome with facts.

Yabut
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Yabut
4 months ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

It got to this point because liberals pushed it to this point. The preoccupation of victimology over reason finds the slightest action on immigration enforcement offensive. That’s how it came to this. That doesn’t make it “well argued.” Just pandering.

KatyDoes
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KatyDoes
4 months ago
Reply to  Yabut

Well said.

Actually
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Actually
4 months ago
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No, it is the political right’s insistence that anyone who stands up for their rights/beliefs must be a purple haired antifa member who wants to suck on the government’s tit and be a victim/snowflake. You and your ilk are blatantly arguing in bad faith and it is extremely sad

Fly On The Wall
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4 months ago
Reply to  Actually

Yabut and her ilk appear to be the voices of reason and common sense in this comment section. Just because you disagree with them doesn’t mean their arguments are made in bad faith.

Stupid Games Stupid Prizes
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Calling this an “invasion” is rhetoric, not reality. Federal agents aren’t operating under martial law, the Constitution hasn’t been suspended, and the Insurrection Act hasn’t been invoked. ICE and Border Patrol are still bound by existing law, court oversight, and political scrutiny.

Protests, journalism, and accountability don’t “trigger” tyranny , but exaggerating enforcement actions into a doomsday narrative absolutely fuels hysteria. Fear is understandable after high-profile incidents, but turning lawful (and challengeable) federal actions into claims of a looming occupation misleads the public and escalates tensions rather than protecting civil liberties.

Jamie Currier
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Jamie Currier
4 months ago

Bound by existing laws? Why wasn’t Goods administered aid and let to bleed out? Where are the agents that murdered people? Why is the state not allowed to review the evidence? Laws are being ignored.

Stupid Games Stupid Prizes
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Reply to  Jamie Currier

Allegations aren’t proof. The existence of disputed facts or tragic outcomes doesn’t mean “laws are being ignored.” Use of force incidents are governed by federal procedure, investigated internally and externally, and reviewed under established legal standards, not by instant public tribunals.

Medical aid decisions in active scenes follow safety protocols, not social media narratives. Agents aren’t “disappearing” ; they’re afforded due process like anyone else, which is exactly what the rule of law requires.

States don’t get unilateral authority over federal evidence because that would collapse federalism. Accountability happens through courts, inspectors general, and Congress, not political pressure or public outrage.

Demanding consequences before investigations conclude isn’t justice. It’s abandoning the very laws you claim are being ignored.

Al Sign
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4 months ago

The Feds are enforcing laws that Congress passed. What you are suggesting isn’t lawful protesting protected by the Constitution. Illegal aliens do not have Constitutional rights because they aren’t citizens.

A city does not have the right to over-ride Federal laws. That isn’t in the Constitution either.

Jamie Currier
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Jamie Currier
4 months ago
Reply to  Al Sign

They are absolutely protected by the Constitution. It does not read ‘citizen’ it reads ‘person’ below is the fourth, part of th fifth and part of the 14th amendments.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

…nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

…nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Al Sign
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4 months ago
Reply to  Jamie Currier

It is not unreasonable to arrest criminals that are foreign nationals here illegally, even if they lock themselves inside, even if they own stuff, even if they have children, even if they call themselves “residents”.

Stupid Games Stupid Prizes
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Reply to  Jamie Currier

You’re right about the text , the Constitution says “person,” not “citizen.” But the conclusion being drawn from that is incomplete.

Those amendments do apply to ICE, but they do not apply identically in the immigration context, because immigration enforcement is civil, not criminal, and because the Constitution itself allows different procedural standards depending on the type of government action.

Here’s the key distinction people skip: ICE is enforcing civil immigration law, not criminal law

The Fourth, Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendments still apply but

Probable cause in immigration is often administrative, not criminal

ICE commonly operates under administrative warrants, not Article III judicial warrants

Deportation is not punishment, so criminal-procedure protections (jury trial, criminal indictment standards, Miranda-style rules) don’t fully attach

That isn’t a loophole, it’s how courts have treated immigration law for over a century

Fly On The Wall
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4 months ago

Exactly — well said, SGSP.

Enough already
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Enough already
4 months ago

But to what point do we disregard laws that were passed by our nation (immigration laws).

We establish Sanctuary cities and states saying we will obstruct the federal government from enforcing federal immigration laws, even though we know that Federal laws supercede state laws.

Then instead of using our elected state “law makers” to pass laws to fix or change those immigration laws.

I don’t like having to keep paying higher city and state sales taxes. So if I claim my household to be a sanctuary household can I refuse to pay those taxes and protest them, even though they were passed with a majority vote?

Will the city council support me to not pay those taxes? Will they prevent the city, county, or state from arresting me for not following the law. Will they prevent these governments from coming and taking my residence?

And if I protest by obstructing their meetings, vandalizing their vehicles, or creating chaos, will the city, county, or state leaders then allow me to not pay those taxes or the taxes I failed to pay?

I don’t agree with the violence committed by either the government or anti ice protestors. This crisis was caused by a failed open border policy by our government leaders. It worsen when political agendas took over instead of civilized debate and legislation to change or repair the immigration laws.

When our government fails to use the power of the house and congress to settle our disputes, and instead use politicalized agendas to call for obstruction and violence, we are going to have tragedy. We have normalized violence as “peaceful protest”, and allowed disrespect and intolerance to differing opinions to divide use as a people.

The use of people referring to themselves as observers when they participate or condone violence without unbiased observations, leads to the uses of fear mongering and misinformation. This leads to failure to finding and fostering a solution.

The division and hate that this crisis has created is the fault of our politicians pushing party agendas with personal hate, instead of moving past personal feelings and doing what is best for the American people by working together.

Sick of Socialists
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Sick of Socialists
4 months ago

Here is how you avoid an issue with ICE

1: Stay out of the way

2: Don’t be an illegal alien

Pretty basic

Al Sign
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4 months ago

I’d like to know what EPD is going to do when ICE starts arresting cartel gangsters in the area. Are they going to attack & arrest the very FEDs that are removing dangerous foreign nationals?

Permanently on Monitoring
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Permanently on Monitoring
4 months ago

What you should do in Eureeka….

Hmmmmm…

Stay off the streets.

Never, ever, interfere with an Armed Officer performing their duties.

I don’t think the ICE wants to go into Cartel Areas any more than the Sheriff does…

Humboldt is pretty insignificant, but the more fuss, the more attention might be paid…

Same thing in the Wine Country…

It’s a target-rich area… From Crescent City to San Diego…

Who are these dozen people who are so reactionary? Is someone paying them to protest…?

I was offered $14,000 per 7 day week to be a scab in Los Angeles…

These little committees are as about as effective as an HOA…

Calm down.

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Zach Rotwein
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Zach Rotwein
4 months ago

Just an observation….
it appears that so called sanctuary status of an area causes more harm than good to the cause of the virtue signalers. That is if caring for illegal immigrants is truly the purpose of this status vs. pushing a confrontation with a President and movement they are violently against.

Mr. Clark
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4 months ago
Reply to  Zach Rotwein

LOL….orange man bad…..TDS can be fixed. But i think they get a high form it and wont change.

triniboldticino
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triniboldticino
4 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

That door seems to swing both ways, Bub.

KatyDoes
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KatyDoes
4 months ago

The best thing that those in the community illegally can do is self deport. Now! Run! Andale!

Then, we as a community, won’t be subjected to the “horror” of Federal Agents looking for illegal aliens. (You know, their job?)

Problem solved. You”re welcome!

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D'Tucker Jebs
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4 months ago
Reply to  KatyDoes

The percentage of Californians who hold this xenophobic viewpoint is small and shrinking.
An April 2025 poll found that 81% of Californians support a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants who have not committed serious crimes while here.
Only 7% strongly oppose such a policy. https://escholarship.org/uc/item/1db8z4gp
A December poll showed that 71% of Californians disapprove of the job ICE is doing–
and this was taken before they started killing US citizens. https://www.ppic.org/publication/policy-brief-californias-immigration-landscape-and-current-public-opinion/

KatyDoes
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KatyDoes
4 months ago
Reply to  D'Tucker Jebs

Congress could solve the immigration problem with a clear and concise law on pathways for citizenship. Until they do, polls are pointless and merely conjecture.

Farce
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Farce
4 months ago
Reply to  KatyDoes

You mean the Democrats in Congress could begin working on a SOLUTION to massive illegal immigration?!!! Wow! That would be something!!

KatyDoes
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KatyDoes
4 months ago
Reply to  Farce

They COULD, but WILL they? Not holding my breath.

Jamie Currier
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Jamie Currier
4 months ago
Reply to  KatyDoes

ICE are detaining people at immigration hearings. Detaining people who have been granted asylum. Even detaining people at their citizenship ceremony

KatyDoes
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KatyDoes
4 months ago
Reply to  Jamie Currier

Oh my goodness! Well, that means it would be even more imperative for Congress to act, wouldn’t you agree???

Jamie Currier
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Jamie Currier
4 months ago
Reply to  KatyDoes

What are you even talking about?

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Barbara Leonard
4 months ago
Reply to  D'Tucker Jebs

That’s California, not the rest of the country. Last poll showed over 50% are in favor of deporting the illegals (oh, sorry undocumented) who have committed crimes in our country. That’s what ICE is doing.

I would like to know the purpose of those people who spoke. First, what is the “nationwide organization’ called “Indivisible”? Second, Who funds them and why did they decide to start a panic where none exists over the vague possibility that ICE will show up here?

Were the speakers, from that organization, citizens of Humboldt or were they paid to attend as many board meetings as possible so people are riled up (in advance) and will take to the streets? Recently, by following the money, some investigators in Minnesota found Antifa and BLM are funded by a billionaire couple who live in Beijing. They are not Chinese, but they are communists. Those two organizations are paid agitators and there is a heavy presence of them at the riots we are viewing on the news.

Here’s what law enforcement can do: co-operate with ICE. They are not ripping children out of schools, in fact they are trying to locate the thousands of kids who have disappeared. They have probably been trafficked for one reason or another.

Here’s what the population who listens to all the hyperbole creating hysteria can do: Hold up your signs if you must, but do not resist law enforcement in any way. You can protest, but you cannot lawfully throw projectiles at them. You cannot use your car to try to scare them, you cannot attend with a weapon and ammunition.

ICE is trying to remove the undocumented criminal element from our streets. That’s it. They have been doing it for decades with no problem. Let them do their job.

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D'Tucker Jebs
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4 months ago

We live in California. That’s why I specifically cited California polls.
I noticed that you conveniently left off a citation supporting your claim that most are in favor of deportation.
What I’ve found (with citation included) is that “nearly two thirds (64 percent) say they prefer giving most undocumented immigrants in the United States a pathway to legal status, while 31 percent say they prefer deporting most undocumented immigrants” https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3926

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Big Rick
4 months ago
Reply to  D'Tucker Jebs

Thank you for pointing out that 81% of Californians are illegal immigrants

Yabut
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Yabut
4 months ago
Reply to  KatyDoes

Really even some illegal immigration is not that damaging. Like a little petty theft or vice doesn’t corrupt the whole population, it might even be some good. But when too much of the country has confused disorder with something good, it spreads like dry rot and collapses the integrity of the entire structure. And the left have reached that critical level as the massive amounts of fraud in government shows. Their useful liberalism has morphed into disease.

willow creeker
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4 months ago

If you’ve watched the video of the Pretti shooting, one of the more alarming parts is how the ICE agent throws the woman down to the ground, as Alex Pretti comes to assist her, before he is shot. Seeing a large man throw a woman like that is very, very disturbing to me.

Kym Kemp
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4 months ago
Reply to  willow creeker

I agree that it is alarming. So is the pepper spray and so is the grabbing Pretti and eventually beating him with what appears to be a pepper spray cannister. And that’s before he was shot.

KatyDoes
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KatyDoes
4 months ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I was shocked that Pretti interfered with federal agents doing their jobs. A little common sense generally keeps people alive.

Art
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Art
4 months ago
Reply to  KatyDoes

When did you become a big gov bro?

KatyDoes
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KatyDoes
4 months ago
Reply to  Art

Nay, I like small government that works to shrink the number of people in our country and one that will also lower my taxes and limit wealth redistribution. For clarification of the small government I support, please read the Constitution as originally written.

Art
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Art
4 months ago
Reply to  KatyDoes

ICE budget is big gov [edit].

KatyDoes
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KatyDoes
4 months ago
Reply to  Art

You mad, “bro”?

Jamie Currier
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Jamie Currier
4 months ago
Reply to  KatyDoes

What the hell do you mean? A person was murdered? We should all be mad!

Disgusted
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Disgusted
4 months ago
Reply to  KatyDoes

He did not and you lie.

Jamie Currier
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Jamie Currier
4 months ago
Reply to  Disgusted

Yes, he did

Jamie Currier
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Jamie Currier
4 months ago
Reply to  KatyDoes

There job is to shove people to the ground and pepper spray them directly in the face for exercising their constitutionally protected right to observe? Especially since ICE has been instructed to stop using pepper spray on protesters. Its not even under ICE jurisdiction to handle crowd control.

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
4 months ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Do you also “agree” that, the January 13, 2026 video , (reviewed by BBC for it’s 97% facial recognition identification) of Alex Pretti, where he is escalating an ICE agent encounter and engagement, DEMANDING, AT THE TOP OF HIS LUNGS, that an ICE agent assault him, then, “AGAIN, FROM THE TOP OF HIS LUNGS”, hocks up an enormous loogie, and spits it with extraordinary, practiced velocity at him from behind, after the agent disengaged from Alex Pretti, turns around and is getting back in his vehicle, and closing his door, and then Alex Pretti, his violence still not fully satiated, begins immediately kicking the vehicle, and then kicking out the taillight, is alarming”…

Please, be the very first Liberal to admit and acknowledge, based on this newly released video evidence, that Alex Pretti, did, in fact, have a documented history of armed, very violent, escalatory, behavior interacting with ICE agents, that included intentional assault, on an ICE agent as that disengaging, de-escalating agent, turned his back on Alex Pretti to return to his vehicle, in order to leave…

Please be the very first Liberal to admit a and acknowledge that Alex Pretti was, in fact, a very violent protester, not a peaceful protester, as is clearly shown…

Because no other Liberal, so far, has, to my knowledge…

(I’ve got a friendly wager going that none ever will, in the RHBB comment section…)

Please prove me wrong…

Choose to ignore it if you must, because it completely dissolves and refutes the completely inaccurate previous deceptive Liberal narrative the Alex Pretti was some kind of model citizen, that Liberals have idolized, and in any way, had a history of being a peaceful protester, or was a “heartwarming soul”…

The only thing heartwarming thing about him was that his behavior was enough to make ones blood boil…

There is an unconfirmed report that his wife had recently divorced him and completely left the state he remained in…

Do you think it may have even possibly been because he may have also been in the habit of hocking up and spitting high velocity loogies at her, too…???

I sure ain’t ruling it out…

Alex Pretti looks very practiced with that “skill”…

(Obviously not his first “loogie rodeo” “roping”…)

What would your immediate reaction be to Alex Pretti sneaking up right behind anyone besides an ICE agent, then hocking up and spitting a huge high velocity loogie at/on THEM…???

Either way, the evidence has clearly been presented and shown…

Are you still going to hold Alex Pretti in such high esteem and regard, and continue to allege and/or believe that he set the kind of chivalrous, unblemished example that others should follow…???

Because the evidence word contradict that, unless it is just conveniently ignored…

Alex Pretti has been completely mis-characterized by the Liberal media as being a non violent protester, when, in truth, as it turns out, it’s by proven he was in fact, a very violent protester…

The question is, will the Liberal media have the credibility and accountability to properly correct the record, and properly correct their previous incorrect, inaccurate, mis-characterization of Alex Pretti, based on the newly discovered released video evidence…???

Or will they try and maintain the previous, dubiously reported untruth that he was somehow a non-violent protester, which has now been clearly and unquestionably disproven…???

An update is in order, with the updated video evidence, don’t you think..???

At least an honest acknowledgement of the truth, I would think…

I at least hope you have accepted it, even if an acknowledgement is not to be forthcoming…

I actually wasn’t the one to break the new evidence…

I picked up the scoop from another commenter…

Other comments added more Jan 13 violent Alex Pretti video from a different angle of the same violent incident…

If nothing else, don’t acknowledge me, but do acknowledge THEM

Please note the airborne tumbling Alex Pretti loogie on it’s fast approaching ICEWARD TRAJECTORY…

And then morally judge THAT

Or, just ignore it…

You’re choice…

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KatyDoes
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KatyDoes
4 months ago
Reply to  The Real Guest

Play stupid games, get stupid prizes. In this case, Pretti boy won an all expenses paid trip to the morgue.

Jamie Currier
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Jamie Currier
4 months ago
Reply to  KatyDoes

[edit] Even if he did those things a week before or even right then, it is never jusfication to murder someone. Punishment for even assault is not death

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KatyDoes
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KatyDoes
4 months ago
Reply to  Jamie Currier

You’re projecting an inordinate amount of your assumptions. I said nothing of the right or wrong of Pretti boy’s death. Merely that he did die and his only reward was a trip to the morgue.

When you remove feelings from the equation, the incident merely becomes a footnote and probably has no bearing on your life one way or the other.

willow creeker
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4 months ago
Reply to  KatyDoes

You are the commenter formerly known as Bud, it’s very clear. I don’t think there can be more than one or two people with your particular level of, classiness.

KatyDoes
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KatyDoes
4 months ago
Reply to  willow creeker

Not me. I don’t do drugs. No Bud for me! There’s a lot of things that KatyDoes, but those things don’t involve drugs.

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Jamie Currier
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Jamie Currier
4 months ago
Reply to  KatyDoes

When you remove feelings? Do you mean when you remove humanity?
I’m sure there are many horrible things that happen that don’t directly affect people but they can still feel empathy

Yabut
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Yabut
4 months ago
Reply to  Jamie Currier

Are you talking about ICE agents towards the protesters or the protesters (or posters here)towards the agents? To paraphrase – the quality of empathy is not strained- “It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest; It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.” Or, according to your statements, not.

Jamie Currier
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Jamie Currier
4 months ago
Reply to  KatyDoes

But also, see above reply

Fly On The Wall
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4 months ago
Reply to  Jamie Currier

I hope Kym sees your above reply.

Gilbert
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Gilbert
4 months ago
Reply to  KatyDoes

Comply or die?

KatyDoes
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KatyDoes
4 months ago
Reply to  Gilbert

I can only speak of my few interactions with law enforcement and I found interactions were fairly pleasant when I was polite and complying. The facts usually come out quickly and one won’t be detained for long in most situations, but one WILL be detained until those facts DO come out.

When did common sense become such an uncommon commodity in this country???

KatyDoes
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KatyDoes
4 months ago
Reply to  The Real Guest

As is usually the case, the useful idiots that the Left trots out to project as a victim, once exposed to scrutiny, crumbles under facts.

Kris
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Kris
4 months ago
Reply to  The Real Guest

Using one event to paint Pretti as this violent and evil person is disgusting and character assassination.
Everyone has lost their temper at times and done and said things they later regret.
FFS he was an ICU nurse. Where is the pictures of him working with patients at the hospital. Why didn’t you post the picture of the silent vigal held at the hospital by his fellow workers.
How about all the statements made from family and friends about the kind of person he is. Would you make this statement to his mother?

This is exactly the kind of tactic this out of control Federal agency will use to excuse the unjustified killing of Alex Pretti.

And you still have failed to show any violent acts Pretti committed during the second encounter. In that encounter the only violence that was committed was by the Border Patrol agents yet you fail to mention that.

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KatyDoes
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KatyDoes
4 months ago
Reply to  Kris

Using one event to paint Pretti as this violent and evil person is disgusting and character assassination.”

Pretti Good chance that Pretti boy has committed acts brought to light recently on more than one occasion. Maybe even just prior to federal agents using deadly force on him.

Pretti Good chance that video of him behaving violently and evilly is being withheld by the Leftist ministry of propaganda, preventing you and I from seeing what really happened in this incident.

There’s also a Pretti Good chance that another incident will happen soon that will disengage all of us from the Pretti Good shootings.

Once Pretti got shot, the outrage over Good getting shot subsided substantially.

willow creeker
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4 months ago
Reply to  The Real Guest

Hawking a loogey on a car equals a death sentence? Hmm.
How about we don’t put military police on the streets of American cities. This is profoundly umamerican. I’d be pissed if they came to this county too. A hawked loogey would be expected.

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Yabut
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Yabut
4 months ago
Reply to  willow creeker

Which is why no one shot him then. Even when he kicked out the tail lights on their vehicle. But it is ignorant to say that is not assault. Certainly it is in Minnesota. “Yes, in Minnesota, spitting on someone can be considered assault. Under Minnesota Statute 609.224, an individual commits assault when they intentionally inflict or attempt to inflict bodily harm on another person, or engage in actions intended to cause fear of immediate bodily harm or death.

While spitting may not cause serious physical injury, it is viewed as an offensive physical act capable of causing harm or distress. In many jurisdictions, intentionally spitting on someone is seen as assault because it involves an unwanted and potentially harmful physical act. In many places, deliberately spitting on another person is treated as a form of assault because it constitutes an unwelcome and potentially dangerous physical act.” And, because it is done against a law enforcement office, it would be added charges.

https://www.legaldefensemn.com/is-spitting-on-someone-assault/

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
4 months ago
Reply to  willow creeker

“Hocking a loogie INTO a car, and trying to hock that loogie through the STILL OPEN DOOR, onto the recently faced away ICE Agent…

There, fixed it for you…

Let’s not kid ourselves…

Alex Pretti was NOT a peaceful protester…

Say it…

Say it loud…

Say it clear…

Be the first Liberal in the RHBB comment section to honestly admit it….

Prove me wrong that not even one will…

NOT…

EVEN…

ONE…

Jamie Currier
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Jamie Currier
4 months ago
Reply to  The Real Guest

THIS. VIDEO. IS. AI.

willow creeker
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4 months ago
Reply to  Jamie Currier

Even if it was not, which I am not sure of, it clearly does not make a difference! A slimey loogey against an armed paramilitary force on our streets? Please…

Kym Kemp
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4 months ago
Reply to  Jamie Currier

The video is not a fake. It is depicting a real situation. https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/is-video-of-alex-pretti-kicking-federal-officers-vehicle-ai-fact-checking-viral-claims-article-153529284 There are videos from two different angles. One posted to the internet prior to Pretti being shot.

Jamie Currier
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Jamie Currier
4 months ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

You are correct, I was mistaken. Thank you.

It still doesn’t make is murder justified. If the police wantednto arrest and charge him, they should have.

Like the family lawyer said “…Nothing that happened a full week before could possibly have justified Alex’s killing.”

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
4 months ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Does the video show that Alex Pretti was a violent protester more than willing to feloniously assault an ICE Agent…???

Jamie Currier
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Jamie Currier
4 months ago
Reply to  Jamie Currier

My bad, it is not AI

Yabut
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Yabut
4 months ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

So are the crowds following ICE agents, constantly blowing whistles, hurling insults and threats, interfering with arrests, etc. Which somehow is rarely in the news.

You talked showing how ICE outnumbered Pretti but rarely do those selected videos show the crowds who vastly outnumber the ICE patrols, yelling insults, blowing whistles, threatening them and, inserting themselves in the way, following them around. Even most of the videos used to condemn ICE are focused in, exclude crowds and are muted. I has no idea what the crowds surrounding ICE were doing until one segment was not muted and I heard but still didn’t see what the crowds were doing.

Trust in the news media has been shot. It’s not always because it’s wrong. It’s because it wants to tell a story and edits out anything that raises questions about that viewpoint. No one- neither protesters nor the media nor the government- provides anywhere near full information.

Jamie Currier
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Jamie Currier
4 months ago
Reply to  Yabut

Jone of that is an excuse to shot and murder people. If they can not handle the stress, they should not be working for ICE

Yabut
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Yabut
4 months ago
Reply to  Jamie Currier

“Protesters” have already become hectoring mobs. Self righteous mobs but mobs still. You are right it doesn’t excuse undisciplined over reactions by law enforcement. Then again there is also no excuse for threatening the agents and their families, throwing things at them, spitting on them, etc. There is no excuse for all of this.

But harassing to drive ICE away from their duties while protecting illegal immigrants from the results of their disregard for the law is a sleazy definition of “protesting.” How many thieves, murders and other sources of violence have they allowed to go about their crime, safe in the knowledge the leftists will protect them? The protesters don’t care. To them, all enforcement is the same evil while all illegal immigrants are equally protected.

This is Civil confrontation
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This is Civil confrontation
4 months ago

This entire City and County needs to be prepared to assemble in mass if ICE shows up. We can’t depend on EPD or APD or FPD or the Sheriff’s Department to protect us. ICE is violating our Constitution Protection and Rights of due process.

KatyDoes
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KatyDoes
4 months ago

There’s 135,000 people in this county. A mass assembly of people may very well run the people causing this fracas and their sympathizers out of the county. What would these leftists do if their neighbors and the sheriff department protects ICE from blue-haired communists while they are doing their job?

Fly On The Wall
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4 months ago
Reply to  KatyDoes

Personal attacks aren’t helping your argument.

Mr. Clark
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4 months ago

Are you in the USofA illegally? It not you have nothing to fear. Well maybe getting rapped by an illegal migrant gang banger. So why do you want those type around? You like getting ripped off, stabbed, rapped, murdered, or do you want to buy children?

Al Sign
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4 months ago

If you are a American citizen you really don’t have to worry about ICE. Are you?

Yabut
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Yabut
4 months ago
Reply to  Al Sign

When mobs and police are excited, no one is safe. And that’s the ploy the left has decided to use, create chaos, having not persuaded the whole country to do what they want.

Al Sign
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4 months ago
Reply to  Yabut

I agree. The angry mobs are dangerous.

Farce
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Farce
4 months ago
Reply to  Al Sign

And they are being whipped up by DEM governors and mayors with hate speech. That much is true

Duh
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Duh
4 months ago

What’s hilarious but not is all the fools on here who think that they’re protected because they think somehow they won’t be affected by this or that they’re shielded from this because they voted for this. See you on the train

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Yabut
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Yabut
4 months ago
Reply to  Duh

This is what makes it so scary. ICE current actions are scary but the left’s determination to be jury, judge and executioner based on their own opinion is just as scary. They have already tried putting most of America on their own train to nowhere and think it’s appropriate. Talk about blinded by partisanship. It’s not a choice between getting “put on the train” but on which train someone wants to put you on. Now that is what is hilarious. Like graveyard humor always is.

Duh
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Duh
4 months ago
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When did a liberal push someone to the ground and shoot them in the back of the head? I must have missed that? When did any Republican politicians get murdered in their home for doing their public service? I must have missed that. When did the liberals attack Capitol Officer’s while storming our Capitol? I must have missed that too. [edit]
https://leavingmaga.org/

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4 months ago
Reply to  Duh

A radical liberal shot Charlie Kirk the neck. I didn’t miss that.

A radical liberal shot Republican politicians simply for playing a baseball game. Thank God none of them died. I didn’t miss that.

Radical liberals are attacking federal agents in Mini-apolis. I haven’t missed that. The hypocrisy from the hypocrites calling America First adherents hypocrites is amusing.

Duh
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Duh
4 months ago
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Tyler Robinson was only registered ever as an Republican. Mini-apolis exposes your bias tryin to shrink their actual impact of Minnesota. Like when an abusive spouse asks you about your “lil” business. Folks I know there, say your full of …. James T. Hodgkinson I guess was a nut job that happened to lean far left, I guess I did miss that my bad. However the reaction was much different than the way ICE is handling US citizens today. “The Capitol Police immediately engaged Hodgkinson and kept him pinned down, preventing him from continuing to fire on the unarmed baseball players. Representative Davis and Senator Rand Paul separately said that if not for the presence of the officers, the incident “would have been a massacre”.” Difference here is this guy brandished a gun at the politicians and capitol police, while Alex Pretti legally carried a firearm he never brandished. You’re comparing apples to oranges. You are justifying the judge jury and execution of US citizens, because you think this is y’all against us, and us against y’all. While all the bs is actually just distraction while “OUR” rights are being taken away, that’s y’all included my neighbors. See you on the 🚂

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4 months ago
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The issues that motivated Robinson were straight out of the left’s agenda. The only way what you say is reasonable is if you first define left as incapable of evil so the conclusion will always be that, if evil has happened, the left was not involved. Which unfortunately is a common enough logic fallacy repeated here.

Yabut
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4 months ago
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Well 1/6 wasn’t even the first time a mob tried to stop the election certification. “A mob tried to break into the Capitol to disrupt the electoral vote count following the 1860 United States presidential election. ”

When did liberals last attack the Capiol Building?

March 1971? “The group issued a statement saying they had attacked “the very seat of U.S. white arrogance” to protest against the invasion of Laos that had begun on February 8, hoping to “freak out the warmongers”. No one was ever arrested or convicted for this bombing.”

November 1983?
“The May 19th Communist Organization was a women-led successor to the Weather Underground.[37] Active from 1978 to 1985, the group engaged in domestic terrorism. The group also incorporated members of the Black Liberation Army. The organization carried out two prison escapes, several armed robberies, the killing of three armored car guards, and at least seven bombings. On November 6, 1983, two members of the group assembled a bomb in a restroom at the Capitol that failed to go off. The following day, they returned and assembled a second bomb, which detonated, causing extensive damage but no casualties.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_violent_incidents_at_the_United_States_Capitol

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4 months ago
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Democratic Socialists don’t want facts. They want the country controlled by those who can channel their FEELINGS. And those feelings of outrage are perpetuated by the instigators in their media’s ministry of propaganda.

Duh
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Duh
4 months ago
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I don’t watch mainstream media

Duh
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Duh
4 months ago
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Far left nutjobs don’t rep an entire part. Realize the Epstein files. We’re all being dooped

Testy
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Testy
4 months ago

This is a load of hyperbolic hysteria. Framing is everything and wow! What a way to frame it.

If ICE shows up ?
Hopefully EPD will DO. THEIR. JOB.

Maintain order by enforcing rules of engagement in protesters by preventing face to face conflicts, and,issue tickets for impeding traffic.Hey Karen’s! It’s not EPD’s job to police ICE.

Just like every other questionable and potentially illegal or unconstitutional interaction with law enforcement or federal agents, the place to challenge those actions is not the street. Tell it to the judge!

Ideally EPD will not model their plan after the LEO’s in MPLS who instead of protecting both protesters and ICE by establishing security perimeters, adopt a stand-down policy like cowards and get (reckless) citizens killed.

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Permanently on Monitoring
4 months ago
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See: Kent State Shootings

Testy
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Testy
4 months ago

I know why they’re unrelated perhaps you can explain to everyone how you think they are similar.

Disgusted
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Disgusted
4 months ago

Maybe rescind the “sanctuary city” stuff so Eureka is not a target. Dumbest act ever, putting a big red circle on our backs so the Feds can come marching in. Idealism and ego do not make smart decisions. Our “virtue signaling” city council has it’s head where the sun don’t shine. Bah.

Read the above on this site.....
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Read the above on this site.....
4 months ago

See: “California AG Issues Guidance Affirming State Authority to Investigate Federal Agent Shootings” on this site.

farfromputin
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4 months ago

EPD must not allow ICE to murder any of our residents.

KatyDoes
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4 months ago
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EPD must protect citizens from themselves who think that protesting involves impeding Federal agents during the course of their duties.

Farce
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Farce
4 months ago
Reply to  KatyDoes

…while armed with handguns lol

Al Sign
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4 months ago
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Yes! EPD can do that by handing over the illegals in their custody and making sure there is crowd control if an angry mob forms during an ICE operation.

Both Pretti and Good would still be alive if they had been arrested by MPD for rioting and domestic terrorism.

FB NATIVE
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FB NATIVE
4 months ago

Wow. Millions of encounters and 2 people who asked for it were killed. Give me a break!

Big Rick
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Big Rick
4 months ago

The only people worrying about this are the ones who didn’t follow the law in the first place and are illegal immigrants to this country.

Anybody abiding by those people and facilitating their sanctuary in this country are absolutely complicit in the same crime and should be held accountable and punished for treason.

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AreYouKiddingMe
4 months ago

I am laughing at the idiocy of this b.s. California is a sanctuary state, Humboldt is a sanctuary county. Somehow showflakes — liberal snowflakes who speak for every disadvantaged group without fully understanding the rhetoric they have been spoon fed because they are against anything authoritarian (which they define as any law) — believed this would stop what was going to happen, and now want the local police to protect them from their own stupid actions involving federal police.

Want to be safe from federal agent interaction? Figure out that PEACEFUL PROTEST does not involve obstructing, blocking, loud whistles, banging pots and pans, and throwing things at federal agents. Understand your actions have consequences, and if you are taking those actions, you had better be ready for the consequences.

The best offense is a good defense. Stay at least ten feet away from any agent. Don’t be armed. Don’t provoke. And instead of traumatizing your kids LEAVE THEM THE F*** AT HOME!

Cetan Bluesky
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Cetan Bluesky
4 months ago

Assume nothing. Assumptions make an ass out of you and me.

Best Yet
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Best Yet
4 months ago
Reply to  Cetan Bluesky

No, assumptions make an “ass” out of “u” and “mption.”

Testy
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Testy
4 months ago
Reply to  Best Yet

Lol I see what u did there. 😆

Eli Cash
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Eli Cash
4 months ago

OMG the hyperbole is off the charts. But none of this would be happening if not for the criminal enterprises of the Obama/Biden administrations allowing/facilitating the mass importation of all the unvetted persons. And the billions of US tax dollars being siphoned and sent overseas.

Luckytobehereatall
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Luckytobehereatall
4 months ago

It’s possible for some people to hold two thoughts in their head simultaneously;

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Farce
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Farce
4 months ago

Thank you! Well stated.

Ronda Illis
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Ronda Illis
4 months ago

Whipping up hysteria, yes, it’s histrionics, a waste of council time. I feel for the cops who get caught between enforcing the law and warped public perceptions.

old guy
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old guy
4 months ago

Don’t poke the bear.

Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
4 months ago

If you are here illegally and are a criminal, you deserve no protection. And the local police,if you are in their custody, should inform the federal government and surrender you to federal requests. It is that simple.

Al Sign
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4 months ago
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If MPD had been doing that then both Pretti and Good would be alive now.

I’m glad that Obama’s favorite Homan is in MPLS now.

Jeffersonian
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4 months ago
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They killed themselves by being idiots

BreakWind
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BreakWind
4 months ago

If you interfere with law enforcement doing its job, your ass is grass, plain and simple. Hand wringing and complaining is pointless and entertaining.

notheone
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notheone
4 months ago

And?

Luckytobehereatall
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Luckytobehereatall
4 months ago

Release the Epstein files.

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Al Sign
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4 months ago

Sure, lets see and hear more about the 2 Bills. The Cintons refused to testify before Congress. You have any problem with that?

Luckytobehereatall
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4 months ago
Reply to  Al Sign

I’m sorry Al Sign, you were saying ?

Republicans Who Defied Subpoenas (Subpoenaed May 2022)

  • Kevin McCarthy (R-CA): Then-House Minority Leader, who had conversations with Donald Trump on Jan. 6th.
  • Jim Jordan (R-OH): A close ally of Trump who communicated with him on Jan. 6th.
  • Scott Perry (R-PA): Involved in efforts to install Jeffrey Clark at the Department of Justice.
  • Andy Biggs (R-AZ): Involved in planning rallies and allegedly seeking a presidential pardon.
  • Mo Brooks (R-AL): Spoke at the Jan. 6th rally and stated Trump asked him to rescind the 2020 election results. 

Other Republicans Who Refused/Avoided Testimony 

  • Ronny Jackson (R-TX): Refused a voluntary request to testify regarding his alleged contact with the Oath Keepers militia.
  • Mark Meadows (R-NC): Former White House Chief of Staff who defied a subpoena, leading to a criminal contempt referral (though the DOJ did not prosecute).
  • Donald Trump: Former President who refused to comply with a subpoena for testimony. 
Al Sign
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4 months ago

I’m not a Republican. I am asking about the Bill who is in the files you claim you want released.

jzzeeebz13
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jzzeeebz13
4 months ago

What EPD ‘Plans on Doing For Us’ If Feds Come? Cooperate with law enforcement is what they should do. And citizens, stay out of their way and let them do their jobs. This is what we voted for. The concept of “Sanctuary” cities have no redeeming value for it’s citizens. In fact, all they do is provide a safe haven for criminals. We are the silent majority and I’m proud of the job president Trump is doing. If you came here illegally, you are an illegal alien and you have committed a crime. It has nothing to do with race. I don’t care what color a person’s skin is, it has to do with law and order. A nation without borders is not a nation and that’s why all these liberals who say just get rid of the borders are idiots. If I tried to live in Mexico or a country in South America illegally, I would expect to be arrested and deported. If I tried to live in Norway, Switzerland etc, I’d expect the same. If you came here legally and assimilate in American culture, great! We’re happy to have you. But if you came here illegally, regardless of your previous criminal history, you have committed a crime and need to be deported. That’s the law of the land. Don’t like it? Well then you can try to get the law changed but while that’s the law, that’s the rules we follow.

treeman53
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4 months ago
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Could not have said it better.

Grace
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Grace
4 months ago

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Luckytobehereatall
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Luckytobehereatall
4 months ago

Cities consider barring ICE from city properties;
From Santa Rosa City Council today;
“Santa Rosa council to discuss immigration crackdown response as Fleming calls for ICE to be barred from city properties”
Reported in SRosa Press Democrat newspaper 1/29/26

Luckytobehereatall
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Luckytobehereatall
4 months ago

More old gray haired hippies in the news;
“”On Thursday, Jan 22 at approximately 1pm, a group of about a dozen Vermont community elders with whistles entered the atrium of White Cap Office Park in Williston VT, home of ICE’s National Criminal Analysis and Targeting Center.

They refused to leave when ordered by Williston Police, the property manager, and federal agents, demanding instead that the landlord renegotiate and cancel the facility’s lease. 

For the next 3.5 hours, they sat together in silence, pausing every 90 seconds to read the name of someone killed in ICE custody, followed by a loud whistle blast. 

Williston Police arrived at around 1:30pm, and asked protesters to leave and stop making noise. A group of 5 elders refused and remained in the atrium accompanied by a medic and physical therapist. 

Around 2pm, property manager and landlord Normand Stanislas arrived and began screaming at supporters gathered outside that he would have them arrested. 

Around 3:15, the Williston Police announced that they had determined that the protestors were not breaking the law and were acting within their first amendment rights. They declined to arrest the group, which had paused blowing whistles to sit in front of the ICE office doors. 

After the Williston Police had left, several DHS agents approached the group and threatened to charge them with Class C federal misdemeanors but did not actually do so, likely because they lacked authority to do so. The agents attempted to physically remove the elders and carry them away from the doors, but the group continued to exercise their right to protest by walking over and sitting back down. Eventually, the agents left. 

The group continued their protest with banners and singing until the sun began setting, when they left the office park of their own accord.

Karen Bixler, 83, of Bethel said, “I’m taking this action to bring attention to our state’s role in this horrific institution. White collar workers, sheltered from the brutality that is taking place in our country, are providing ICE with information to aid in their raids.”

This protest follows several months of public outcry against the Industrial Ave facility, which is used to monitor civilian social media activity and identify targets for ICE detention and deportation. Over the winter, community groups conducted several noise demos at White Cap Business, and anonymous individuals hung a banner from the flagpoles reading “ICE VIOLATES RIGHTS HERE.”  

70 year-old Dorothy Mammen of Middlebury said: “This facility is staffing up to spy on people via social media, to flag “negative sentiment” toward ICE and build dossiers on anyone who opposes fascism. They are compiling personal details, family links, and using facial recognition. To what end? To stifle dissent; to trample our right to free speech.”

The office at White Cap is one of many ICE-related facilities in Chittenden County, which serves as the national nerve center for ICE operations. The notorious Law Enforcement Support Center on Harvest Lane is home to ICE’s nationwide tip line, while at least 10 other nearby locations (totalling an estimated 400,000 square feet of office space) are used by DHS for data processing, surveillance, and administrative work. 

On Tuesday, the Williston Selectboard passed a resolution condemning ICE activities in the town, and several hundred protesters marched in the frigid temperature to denounce the ICE Call Center on Harvest Lane.

The elders risking arrest in Thursday’s sit-in were not representatives of any official group or organization, but simply community members concerned about the safety of their neighbors. They expressed hope that their action would help others to find the courage necessary to get ICE out of Williston.” 

Press Release by Julie Macuga, [email protected]

Eli Cash
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Eli Cash
4 months ago

The DHS report identifies multiple criminal illegal aliens taken into custody on Tuesday in Minnesota for crimes ranging from homicide and rape to child abuse and domestic violence.

But by all means, let’s welcome them and give them a ton of our tax money for free

The Real Guest
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Kicking Bull
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Kicking Bull
4 months ago

Trust the Psyops.
Technocrat surveillance state is safe and effective.
Paramilitary on the street makes us free.

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Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
4 months ago

Sanctuary cities are illegal. Illegal immigrants are subject to deportation. Failing to honor detention requests impedes federal law enforcement.Obstructing law enforcement is illegal. What part of this do the liberals not understand. Evidently none, or alternatively they are anarchists. How do you think they would be treated if they illegally immigrated to another country.More severely than illegals are treated here, thats a certainty. This country can no longer afford to support or be all things to all people. Its time to enforce the law and cooperate with law enforcement. Then idiots like the two dead in Minneapolis would still be alive, the criminal illegals would be apprehended, and we would be safer.