Residents Pack Town Hall to Oppose Sunnybrae Cell Tower

Nearly 100 residents packed a Sunnybrae neighborhood meeting Tuesday night to voice fierce opposition to a proposed 186-foot cell tower that would pierce through a legacy redwood forest bordering the Arcata Community Forest. The “megatower” as residents have called it, has been proposed by Pacific Towers for T-Mobile service on a steep, vacant parcel off Shirley Boulevard, and requires a Conditional Use Permit – meaning it’s not principally permitted in the residential zone.

The project description offered on the Humboldt County Department of Planning website reads in part, “A Conditional Use Permit for the construction of a telecommunications and public utility facility, consisting of a 180-foot-tall monopole with new T-Mobile wireless antennas and antenna equipment, including various equipment cabinets housing various utilities within a 40’x60′ fenced lease area. No water or sewer service required. The tower will be designed to accommodate a minimum of three future wireless carriers to collocate onto.” 

Third District Supervisor Mike Wilson and Planning Director John Ford convened an informational town hall – a step outside normal procedure – to present what information the county has received so far from the applicant, and explain the evaluation process ahead. 

“This meeting is an informational meeting. It’s not a hearing, so we’re not taking testimony,” Supervisor Wilson told the standing-room crowd at the Arcata Community Center. “This is really just informational about the process.”

Ford emphasized the meeting would focus on information provided by the applicant: “What we really want to do tonight is give you some information about the project as we understand it, about the things that are going on in the process, where we’re at in the process, the next steps in the process, so that you are fully informed on how to engage.” 

idyllic driveway with redwood trees on a sharp street corner

One of more than a dozen nearby lawn signs protesting the Grotzman Creek cell tower project sits at the 15MPH corner where Shirley Blvd. meets the driveway to the property in question. [Photo by Ryan Hutson]

Mayor of Arcata Alex Stillman and City Councilmember Meredith Matthews also attended the meeting, with Stillman setting the Arcata City Council apart from the County at the outset of the meeting. Stillman clarified the city’s limited role, telling the room, “[W]e really appreciate hearing from so many of you,” as to the flood of recent public comments at Arcata City Hall, adding, “and we’re really concerned as you are, but we can do nothing about this except support your efforts in contacting the planning department and Supervisor Wilson,” concluding, “it’s a board issue.”

Kate Lancaster introduced the Friends of Grotzman Creek Watershed, a group concerned community members and neighbors, many who have lived around the 11-acre forested parcel “for 3 to 76 years” and have met every Friday since August 8th to organize opposition to the infrastructure project. “We all feel a strong connection to this place,” Lancaster said, referencing the Grotzman Creek forest area which connects to the sizable Arcata Forest. “None of us object to cellular reception for all. We just don’t believe this is the best location for a cell tower.”

Lancaster described residents’ deep emotional ties to the forest, a sentiment repeated by several speakers at the meeting. “One [resident of Shirley Blvd.] has lived here for 76 years, she played in that forest when she was six years old…” Lancaster said to those present. “There are people who listen to the spotted owls from their windows,” she remarked.

She emphasized what the group is protecting, describing the familiar wildlife she is personally aware of. “There’s a mother bear and her three cubs,” she said, continuing, “there are deer who head up to the flat backyards to engage in their rutting rituals, spotted owls who sing to us throughout the night, red legged frogs who live in our ponds, flying squirrels who delight us as they launch themselves off our trees into the forest.”

The County Planning Department’s Michael Holtermann presented information submitted by the applicant to a full house – standing room only. That information included FCC coverage maps showing current T-Mobile service in the area and projected coverage with the tower in place – but those maps did not include other carriers to show the totality of coverage in the area. The maps, generated by the carrier, claim to show areas of poor existing coverage that would be improved with the addition of the 186 foot cell tower.

county officials at a town hall meeting

From left to right, County Planner Michael Holtermann, BOS Representative Mike Wilson, Planning Director John Ford, and seated, the liaison to the applicant Pacific Towers, Matthew Moore of Complete Wireless Consulting. [Photo by Ryan Hutson]

When a resident questioned whether the county had verified the coverage information, Ford explained the county’s reliance on applicant-provided data, clarifying for the town hall group that the county assumes that that documentation is done professionally. “We take information whether it’s a house or anything. It comes from the applicant,” Ford said. “We don’t design the house for them. We don’t do the environmental review for them. They hire experts, they hire professionals to do that, and then we have to trust that it’s done at a professional level and with a professional stamp.”

Wilson acknowledged that while the county accepts reports and information compiled by experts and professionals in their field, the hearing process allows for challenge. Wilson told the crowd, “Does that mean that it is always true? No. Often there are times when we as a county can see things in need of challenge, and then sometimes citizens or other experts provide counter evidence to what’s being presented. Remember, these are hearings, right? So we actually take that evidence.”

Ford added that in some cases, the county can obtain verification, adding, “[S]ometimes we are able to get outside sources that confirm information.” He noted that individual carriers are required to report accurate coverage maps to the FCC, and the submitted maps match what’s been reported to federal regulators. 

The applicant’s materials indicate the 186-foot monopole would be constructed on a 2,400 square foot lease area with a minimum of three co-location opportunities for additional carriers. The site is currently vacant forested land, with an adjoining property for sale by the same owner, at 422 Shirley Blvd. 

County Requests Additional Information

Community members viewed the county’s response to the initial application as a positive step. After reviewing the submittal, Planning Department staff sent a Notice of Incomplete Application requesting substantial additional information before the project could proceed to a public hearing.

Holtermann detailed the county’s information request to the applicant which include an updated site plan, updated alternatives analysis, tree removal specifications and updated photo simulations,  a fire prevention plan and fire district service letter, ambient noise measurements, lighting information,  access and easement details, and a Northern Spotted Owl impact assessment by a qualified biologist.

The county’s formal request for updated and additional information paused the FCC’s 150-day “shot clock” for local review, Director Ford explained to the room of concerned residents. No hearing is scheduled until the applicant responds with complete information, he clarified, noting that the town hall meeting was not to be misconstrued as a formal hearing on the matter.

County code requires setbacks equal to the full height of the structure – 186 feet in this case, including the height of the antennas. Holtermann noted that the applicant’s initial site plan appeared to show setbacks to an adjacent vacant lot rather than to the nearest developed residential property, and didn’t include the full extent of the antennas in setback measurements. 

The applicant’s photo simulations, according to Holtermann, suggest the tower would be “screened” by existing trees along the ridgeline when viewed from Shirley Boulevard. However, since tree removal is proposed, the county has requested updated simulations showing what the tower would actually look like after removal of trees.

topographic property map

According to the applicant’s wetland delineation report presented by Holtermann, there are wetlands on site as well as streamside management areas. [Map sourced from applicant materials]

On tree removal, Holtermann said the applicant’s materials indicate trees would be removed but provide no further details. “We don’t know the number of trees,” he said, “the size of the trees, the species of the trees, [or] the location of the trees,” Holtermann noted, in response to an inquiry. Neighbors expressed shock and some outrage at the idea of “clearcutting” or removing any stand of trees, which will need to be removed to accommodate the heavy machinery and equipment needed to build out the monopole’s significant platform and placement infrastructure – along a “fishbowl” shaped, steeply sloped terrain – a “pristine forest” that immediate neighbors contend would be irreparably harmed. 

Shirley “Cow Path” Boulevard

Joan Dunning delivered impassioned testimony about traffic safety on Shirley Boulevard, where construction vehicles would access the site. “It’s Shirley cow path,” Dunning said. “It’s a 15 mile per hour posted sign curve. It’s a right angle curve where this driveway is that it is going to have cranes and logging trucks and cement trucks and bulldozers going at this right angle turn that doesn’t even have a goddamn sidewalk!”

She described the street’s heavy pedestrian use, saying there are “nine blind driveways… constantly walked by senior citizens, by college students, by people in goddamn wheelchairs that are teetering because there’s no sidewalk.”

“I will guarantee you right now that that corner is not legal right now,” Dunning continued. “And you start putting damn machinery in there, and you’re going to be liable for somebody getting killed.” Speaking about the forest’s unique acoustic character, noting she has spent 25 years trying to understand why the forest is so quiet, Dunning explained that it is being called a “legacy forest” because, “it’s a second growth forest that has been allowed to regain old growth characteristics.”

Another neighbor, who lives on Shirley Boulevard described access complications at the proposed driveway entrance. The current 15-foot driveway, he said, would need expansion to 20-40 feet, which could require permission from adjacent property owners or destruction of existing retaining walls. The neighbor said, “[T]hey are going to have to get permission from us to give them more land – not happening – or there’s a retaining wall that would have to be destroyed and moved.”

That neighbor added that multiple property lines converge at the entrance of the 422 Shirley Blvd. location, making it unclear to residents there whether any access route would stay within the applicant’s easement rights. “I think a survey of the property lines where they abut Shirley is very necessary to make sure that any routing of that access road is within their right,” he said.

Noise, Wildlife, and Environmental Concerns

According to the applicant’s noise study presented by Holtermann, the proposed equipment would not exceed 50 decibels either at property lines or at nearby residences – what the county code establishes as the maximum noise level. However, Holtermann noted the code actually requires compliance with whichever is lower: 50 decibels or ambient noise levels. “As of now,” he conceded, “we’re not sure if 50 decibels is actually the limit that the applicant will need to adhere to,” he said, which is why the county also requested accurate ambient noise measurements of current conditions in the area.

Several residents raised concerns about cumulative noise impacts as additional carriers add equipment over time. One resident noted that once a tower is built, FCC regulations make it significantly easier for additional carriers to co-locate equipment, each with their own noise-generating infrastructure. “Under CEQA, normally there’s something called ‘avoiding known cumulative impacts’” she told the room, adding “the FCC has designed their cell tower regulations in such a way that once the darn thing is up, there’s virtually a greased lightning process for anything else that goes on it.”

This neighbor argued the county should consider the full build-out scenario, telling Ford and Wilson, “The county is not just licensing a conditional use permit for this one thing, but it is for the entire shebang,” calling the project “a huge industrialization of a residential neighborhood.”

A Cal Poly Humboldt student spoke about how the project conflicts with how the university markets itself to prospective students. With several students in the crowd, one student offered a perspective choosing un-encroached green spaces over increased cellular coverage. “Humboldt is being advertised to people in my age group and other people as being an ecologically pristine area, and this definitely impacts and segregates that heritage,” the student said. “We don’t care about better cell phone service. We’re happy with our provider… we just want to be able to go into green spaces that aren’t constantly being encroached upon.” This sentiment garnered a roar of support from the group. 

a redwood forest with a narrow walking path leading to where the monopole is proposed

Redwood trees on steep terrain greet hikers and dog-walking neighbors into the gulch where Grotzman Creek Watershed sits, at the center of the proposed monopole cell tower project. [Photo by Ryan Hutson]

Multiple residents emphasized the area’s importance for wildlife, and related the concerns for noise to the security and wellbeing of nature as well as of people in the community. The county’s notice to the applicant specifically requests evaluation of impacts to Northern Spotted Owl – a species sensitive to both construction noise and long-term operational noise which have been spotted locally in the Grotzman Creek area where the terrain and composition of the forest is a fitting environment for the threatened bird of prey. Deforestation is listed as one of the main challenges to the native owl’s existence.  

A resident asked whether wildlife impacts from noise would be assessed beyond just property line measurements. “If it’s 50 decibels at the property line,” one person asked, “how much louder is it on the tower, and how much louder is that going to be affecting the wildlife? What does that mean for all the individual wildlife?” Holtermann confirmed wildlife noise impacts would be part of the Northern Spotted Owl assessment, assuring the group, “that will absolutely be something that we will be taking into consideration.”

The applicant has submitted an RF emissions report indicating emissions would be below FCC limits, according to Holtermann. He explained a significant federal constraint on local decision-making, “The Planning Commission, and any hearing body at the local level, is barred from considering RF emissions as a basis for denial,” he clarified, adding, “[T]hat’s not to say that people can’t comment on their concerns about RF emissions, but if it’s within FCC limits, then basically the local jurisdiction’s hands are tied.”

Slope Stability Concerns 

Multiple residents raised concerns about slope stability on the steep ravine where tree removal is proposed. One longtime resident described watching slow but steady erosion of an embankment, and tree gradual movement over 37 years, including “a slab out back” that she described “crack in two and fall over,” as well as trees migrating down the steep slope before being removed for safety. “I know that the county general plan safety element agrees with the California general code in requiring that the community be protected from risks associated with a variety [of hazards] including landslides,” the resident said. “The removal of trees that are required by the proposal has the potential to further destabilize the slope, increase the risk of erosion, increase the risk of landslide,” she said, receiving applause from the crowd.

Another nearby resident described the unique topography that residents say makes the Grotzman Creek site particularly problematic for both visual and acoustic impacts. She explained how different homes would have direct sight lines to different portions of the 186-foot tower, telling the room, “I might be looking at the first 15 feet of the tower, whereas somebody else is looking at the next 30 feet.” She contended that unlike typical cell tower installations where the top of the structure is far above surrounding homes, this resident noted that this location would place antennas at eye level with some residences around the rim of the “bowl,” describing the forest’s perimeter.

A compilation of remarks from Monday’s town hall meeting offer a sample of the concerns and the exchange of information at the Arcata Community Center. [Video by Ryan Hutson]

“Most of these projects, the top of the tower is way up high and not beaming directly into people’s residences,” she said. “But,” she asked, “what is the impact of having a tower, the antenna, in that close proximity to homes at that level?”

Additional concerns raised at the meeting included potential interference with search and rescue helicopter operations in the adjacent Community Forest with a resident noting that just a month earlier, helicopters had conducted search and rescue operations in the nearby forest, and questioned whether a 186-foot tower would create flight restrictions that could impede emergency response. 

One resident also asked whether the tower height would create conflicts with Arcata-Eureka Airport flight paths, noting the site is sometimes used as an approach corridor during certain weather conditions. Ford indicated the county coordinates with the airport on structures that could affect flight operations. Officials agreed that this was a fair concern, and encouraged attendees to forward their comments and concerts in writing via email to the planning department. 

A Lifetime Resident’s Plea

A 76-year-old resident who lives 300 feet from the proposed site shared her passionate connection to the forest. “My life began here, 76 years ago at the age of five when I moved into our new home with my family, designed by my mother and built by my father and his father,” she said. “It was the fifth house in the neighborhood. My bedroom is right across the driveway from and looks out into the beautiful forest.” 

She explained, “Since the property the woods is on is not suitable for development,” she posited, “I have thought the woods would always be here unchanged.” She continued, “then I received the notice… of the proposed 186 foot tall cell tower, 300 feet from my property.” 

Expressing her commitment to the forest she grew up with, she concluded, “I feel great responsibility to protect the neighboring Grotzman Creek watershed, my home and our health.” She concluded, “[T]he ramifications of this large project being interjected into the middle of this pristine, uncompromised legacy forest and the environmentally sensitive habitat of Grotzman Creek watershed, and the effects it would have on our neighborhood, are too heartbreaking to imagine.”

Circumventing Arcata’s Setback Protections

Lee Parker, who lives at 70 Fickle Hill Lane just 425 feet from the proposed site, raised concerns about how the project’s location circumvents Arcata’s residential protections. “Most of us on the Arcata side of the city-county line either built or bought our property and our homes, trusting in part that we were protected by the land use code that protects us with [a] 1,000 foot radius of any cell tower being near our property,” Parker said, addressing Director Ford and representative Wilson. “Since this proposed project is cited just yards outside the city limit,” he asserted, “it circumvents that rule.”

Parker, who identified himself as retired from a large utility company, asked county officials,  “Would you be willing, out of simple compassion and respect for our neighboring community, to voluntarily honor the same 1,000 foot residential setback that the city adopted to protect all of its residents? Otherwise we will be involuntarily stripped of that protection.”

a banner on a fence near the driveway of proposed cell tower site objects to the project

A nearby property owner puts the neighborhood on notice with several banners at the edge of a fence line near the corner of 422 Shirley Blvd.. [Photo by Ryan Hutson]

He clarified, “[W]e’re not asking you to enforce the Arcata law. We’re asking you to choose neighborliness over a loophole.” Supervisor Wilson responded that the county could not enforce Arcata’s ordinance, though he acknowledged that making the required technical findings for approval would be “very difficult” given the circumstances. 

Nuts and Bolts of County Planning

Wilson explained his constrained role as a decision maker, should the project eventually reach the Board of Supervisors on appeal. “If it comes to us on appeal, we are then a quasi-judicial body that has to make that decision,” Wilson said, describing the role of the Board of Supervisors. “What that means,” he said, “is that we cannot show bias before we get into that decision making process, or that decision can be challenged.” Wilson emphasized what he could advocate for, stating that he preferred to have the “most robust process possible, the most disclosure possible, the most analysis possible, so that everything is on the table – so that we can make a good decision at the end.” He then clarified that the county’s constituency extends beyond immediate neighbors, and includes the other districts. “The constituency isn’t just the people who live closest to a project.” 

Ford addressed questions about how decisions are made, explaining the concept of “findings” – legally required statements that a project complies, or does not comply, with applicable code – and is not detrimental to public health, safety and welfare. “The findings are basically statements that the decision maker, whether it be the Planning Commission or the Board, is making,” Ford said, such as finding a project consistent with zoning. Each finding must be supported by evidence in the record, both Ford and Wilson emphasized.

On the more subjective “public health, safety and welfare” finding, Ford noted it can encompass various community impacts, but did not include impact to property values in that category. 

Ford explained why property values are typically not considered in findings, saying they’re too speculative. “I’ve been a planner for probably more years than I’m willing to admit,” he said, “and that’s always been the issue.” Paraphrasing, Ford said, “It’s like, ‘you’re going to destroy my property values…’ and sometimes people will say that and actually find out that the project, whatever it is, ends up improving the property values.” This feedback garnered several unhappy responses, with one resident pushing back on that assessment saying to Ford, “This is a cell tower. This is not going to have a positive impact on anyone’s property values. That’s a reality. And I think you can very easily find property value studies that would very clearly show that you’re going to hurt your own tax base.” Another chimed in, adding, “This isn’t the Hammond Trail…” disputing the community value that a monopole cell tower would bring to an otherwise natural area. 

The county is awaiting the applicant’s response to the Notice of Incomplete Application. County code allows applicants six months to provide requested information before an application is deemed abandoned.

When staff deems the application complete, it will proceed to a Planning Commission hearing. Holtermann said the county will provide 1,000-foot radius notice for the hearing – more than three times the standard 300-foot requirement – to ensure everyone who received notice of the application also receives notice of the hearing. This assurance was well-received by the group.

At that hearing, the Planning Commission could approve the project, deny it, or continue it with requests for additional information, according to Ford. After that, any decision made can be appealed to the Board of Supervisors. Officials encouraged residents to submit written comments to become part of the official record to Holtermann’s email at [email protected]

Ford reminded residents about the value of written testimony, asking community members who had offered important feedback at the meeting to double down in writing. “Getting it to us at least a week before the hearing allows us to put it in the packet,” Ford told the group, noting, “it’s an attachment to the staff report [so] the Planning Commission, and perhaps even the board, has the opportunity to review your original letters.”

All application materials can be viewed online at Humboldt Accela Citizen Access under project number 19343.

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Al L Ivesmatr
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Al L Ivesmatr
6 months ago

Oh the web the Arkata Progressives weave. Outraged at a 100 foot cell tower which will be made to look like a tree in a forest while fully supporting 1,000 foot tall offshore windmills right off our coast which will beach and kill cetaceans and shred birds. Worried about a cell tower in a forest while simultaneously turning Humboldt bay into a toxic Port of Oakland dump – future superfund site. What a pathetic bunch of hippocrits. These self important Cement people don’t even think about the dichotomy they are so set in their ways. Communication takes precedent over fixing a fraud perpetuated by the Democrat Party Ring Grabbers which doesn’t need fixing called global cooling 70s, er, global warming 80$-2000$, er, climate change, the present day, bingo! That’s what we will name it my precious!

That cell tower needs to be constructed where proposed in order to teach these Cement people a lesson. And lower their property values so they move back to Cementland. Plus, the Northern Spotted Owl they claim lives there, it doesn’t, can use the tower as a perch on its nighttime hunting forays, along with numerous other avian species. Habitat created. This, unlike the windmills these fools desire which simply shred birds into floating head and wing detritus. Build that cell tower where proposed in order to create wildlife habitat. Win for the wildlife, loss for the outraged Cement people.

Quantum Quipster
Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

Wasn’t the right
Absolutely in the right
Why does anyone do anything?
Just tell me
I don’t know, I was really drunk at the time!

Us and them
And after all, we’re only ordinary men

Me and you
God only knows it’s not what we would choose to do (To do, to do, to do)

“Forward!” he cried from the rear
And the front rank died
The general sat and the lines on the map
Moved from side to side

Black (Black, black, black, black) and blue
And who knows which is which and who is who (Is who, is who, is who, is who)

Up (Up, up, up, up, up) and down (Down, down, down, down)
And in the end it’s only round and round (round, round, round), and round 

Haven’t you heard it’s a battle of words?”
The poster bearer cried
“Listen, son,” said the man with the gun
“There’s room for you inside”

I mean, they’re not gonna kill ya
So like, if you give ’em a quick short, sharp, shock
They won’t do it again
Dig it? I mean, he got off lightly
‘Cause I would’ve given him a thrashing
I only hit him once!
It was only a difference of right and wrong, innit?
But really, I mean good manners don’t cost nothing, do they, eh?

Down and out
It can’t be helped, but there’s a lot of it about

With, without
And who’ll deny it’s what the fighting’s all about?

Out of the way, it’s a busy day
I’ve got things on my mind
For want of the price of tea and a slice
The old man died

-Richard William Wright, George Roger Waters. Pink Floyd

will ge
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will ge
6 months ago

Generals gathered in their masses, just like witches at black masses, evil minds that plot destruction, sorcerer of death’s construction 🤘

Brackish
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Brackish
6 months ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

How ’bout rotisserie seagulls, to be sold at the Arcata Co Op? I don’t know if these windmills will kill as many birds as Costco, but the seagulls are, by some, considered edible. Dried seagull and plant based jerky sticks, at REI? All this negativity towards the windmills killing seabirds, jeez, the Democrats will be happy to eat them, in exchange for a little “clean” power for their iphones! What’s not to like about that? Heck, I might even try fresh seabird, properly marinated in Clorox…

Loganyj
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Loganyj
6 months ago
Reply to  Brackish

You are using disingenuous arguments. Here are some facts and figures.
https://www.3billionbirds.org/findings
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7454995/

Brackish
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Brackish
6 months ago
Reply to  Loganyj

Thanks, I’ve read both. Amazing the per-year estimate that cats killed 2.6 billion birds and 64 million were lost to industrial collisions. I might have been just a tad off, comparing turbines to Costco’s meat dept.

Timb0
Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

All I can say is Welcome to Oakland.

Korina42
Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Timb0

Minus the coal.Poor Oakland.

Loganyj
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Loganyj
6 months ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

You are using disingenuous arguments. Here are some facts and figures.

https://www.3billionbirds.org/findings

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7454995/

Big Rick
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Big Rick
6 months ago

Do you guys want 911 phone access when AT&t eventually pulls the plug on all of the land lines in the area?

This is how you keep having 911 phone access.

Your stubbornness will eventually harm you.

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Loganyj
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Loganyj
6 months ago
Reply to  Big Rick

there’s already phone access in the area by verizon. And phones are being designed now so that they can access satellites. Also who are you? Do you live near the affected site? Were you at the meeting?

I like stars
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I like stars
6 months ago

Sounds like these NIMBY Karens need to put in sidewalks so their poor senior citizen and wheelchair bound neighbors are no longer forced to walk in the street.

Loganyj
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Loganyj
6 months ago
Reply to  I like stars

Do you live in the area? Do you know anyone who is being impacted? Or do you just want to be toxic online? [edit by Kym] I have met these folks that walk around here on their peaceful daily commute through a neighborhood undisrupted by large cement trucks reeling around 15mph corners and live on Shirley. You are not using your head for that thinking thing its supposed to do and until you do or you visit the area that’s affected; 422 Shirley Boulevard in case you can’t be bothered to actually read the article you obviously just skimmed,[edit by Kym]

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I like stars
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I like stars
6 months ago
Reply to  Loganyj

Why don’t you build a sidewalk?

From the article:

right angle turn that doesn’t even have a goddamn sidewalk!”

She described the street’s heavy pedestrian use, saying there are “nine blind driveways… constantly walked by senior citizens, by college students, by people in goddamn wheelchairs that are teetering because there’s no sidewalk.”

“I will guarantee you right now that that corner is not legal right now,” Dunning continued.

Kym Kemp
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6 months ago
Reply to  Loganyj

Loganyj, We don’t allow personal insults directed at fellow commenters. If you continue, you’ll be put on moderation and eventually banned.

Smoky OG again
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Smoky OG again
6 months ago

Just wait until plans for converting the Simpson mill site on Foster to a Data Center go public!

Mr. Clark
Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Smoky OG again

A chicom company bought that site.

Smoky OG again
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Smoky OG again
6 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

Hmm…What is a “chicom”?

Sky Pilot
Member
6 months ago
Reply to  Smoky OG again

Chinese communist

moviedad
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moviedad
6 months ago
Reply to  Sky Pilot

Those poor,
struggling, commies’
in China.
Buzzing around
on their privately owned
flying-cars.

david mercurio
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david mercurio
6 months ago

i personally have asked for a new tower for 4 years

yamadog
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yamadog
6 months ago

Lack of cell service hurts low income folks the most. Not everyone can afford other forms of internet. AlsoI often have to screenshot coupons because the cell service internet is poor or non-existentant in some areas. Cell service is vital to everyday life. Our mountainous terrain means signal needs more towers. The tin foil hat crowd is irksome and esthetics have largely been dealt with.

Quantum Quipster
Member
6 months ago
Reply to  yamadog

I lived within pretty close eyeshot of the community forest above the university. No one could see the cell tower unless I pointed it out because it’s so well disguised, as a tree.

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Loganyj
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Loganyj
6 months ago

This one isn’t supposed to be disguised as a tree, they’re proposing a clear cut to even get it in.

Loganyj
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Loganyj
6 months ago
Reply to  yamadog

Check out the other locations for the towers that provide similar service!

Brackish
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Brackish
6 months ago

Shirley they can put this tower somewhere else?

2Knucks
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2Knucks
6 months ago
Reply to  Brackish

Who’s Shirley and what does she have to do with any of this?

Brackish
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Brackish
6 months ago
Reply to  2Knucks

Sure! ‘a Lee. We can put this somewhere else? Yes. Instead of Leeving Shirley Blvd with this ridiculous cell tower, it could instead be installed in a Lee, somewhere. Maybe!

Farce
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Farce
6 months ago
Reply to  Brackish

“Surely you can’t be serious?”
“Well yes I am! And stop calling me shirley”

Bozo
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Bozo
6 months ago

Hmm… not really a ‘news report’

>” … pierce through a legacy redwood forest…” Oh my !!!
>” The “megatower” as residents have called it…”
>” There are people who listen to the spotted owls from their windows,” WTF ???
>”… area where the terrain and composition of the forest is a fitting environment for the threatened bird of prey
>” questioned whether a 186-foot tower would create flight restrictions that could impede emergency response. Oh boy !
>”… site is sometimes used as an approach corridor during certain weather conditionsWell, heck Yes… commercial jets follow the old Arcata road to the Mckinleyville Airport !

WOW. LANDSLIDES. LEGACY FOREST. SPOTTED OWLS, 50 DB NOISE !!!!

HOLY COW ! GOVERNMENT SHOULD DECLARE IT A NATURE RESERVE !!!

REMOVE ALL THE HOUSING, SEPTIC TANKS, WATER SUPPLIES, DRIVEWAYS, POWER LINES, CARS, FIREPLACES, AND THE ROADS !!!!

MULTI-STORY APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT IN BAYSIDE COULD ACCOMMODATE THE RESIDENTS !

Loganyj
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Loganyj
6 months ago
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Farce
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Farce
6 months ago

It’s time for folks to grow up! Look- we must cut down all the trees and build more cell towers because we NEED them. Modern life NEEDS cell towers everywhere. We love our cell phones and we NEED information all the time, wherever we are and always. FASTER FASTER MORE MORE. That is how we must be in these modern civilized times- and this is what AI is going to require of us. We all must make sacrifices for the common good. How dare you stand in the way of progress. Pretty selfish of you! We are only putting up one little cell tower…we are doing no harm. You will be able to look at trees and owls and flying squirrels on your phones. There are already some excellent videos on YouTube and you can even look at them faster and better once you let us put up this one little cell tower. And that 3 second dead spot on the highway down by the old KOA? Well, we all just hate that don’t we? So grow up and bite the bullet- for your neighbors and your community. And let the bulldozers run free!!

Farce
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Farce
6 months ago
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Umm yeah sarcasm get it?

Ahuka of the Hashishim
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Ahuka of the Hashishim
6 months ago

All the complainers whose cellphones use towers in other folks neighborhoods should have required to surrender those phones before leaving

Loganyj
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Loganyj
6 months ago

Or maybe our community is just strong enough to fight back here and the community hasn’t been in other places. Are you even from here or are you just trying to stoke fights on the internet? Everyone I have met in person in Humboldt has at least tried to be pleasant to my face, maybe it’s something about the internet that makes people think they can just say whatever they want with no consequences.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
6 months ago
Reply to  Loganyj

This is not aggressive, but are you typing on a cell phone or any device that requires a cell tower?

I am not, btw. I have a little flip cell phone that I rarely use and use a laptop as that’s where I do work for business (and fun).

I like stars
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I like stars
6 months ago
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Everyone I have met in person in Humboldt

Are you one of those people that move somewhere new and immediately feel entitled to decide what’s best for people who have lived there for years?

Martin
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6 months ago

It seems like everyone wants excellent cell service, but if a new tower is recommended in their area, they scream their heads off. What is it going to be folks, screaming or better cell service.

Loganyj
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Loganyj
6 months ago
Reply to  Martin

I almost don’t want to make an original comment for you. Almost. I don’t think anyone cares at all who moved up here about excellent cell service. I don’t think you know the areas that are cell service deficient. I don’t think you have even been outside because if you had then maybe you wouldn’t be spreading ignorance online.

Martin
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6 months ago
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Talk about spreading ignorance online. I frankly could care less about what you think of me. Your nasty comment makes me very angry, but I refuse to listen to people like you and reply with the same garbage. I guess if you need to call the police or fire department for help just climb a tall tree and start screaming.

Yabut
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Yabut
6 months ago
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You’d be wrong about that. In a hilly environment cell service can be really spotty even near town. Cell service from most providers ends for me about 500 feet away. 500 feet right in the middle of those coverage maps. Looking at those maps provider link you, you would think it’s all uniformly available. It’s not. So it is not Martin who is spreading ignorance.

I like stars
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I like stars
6 months ago
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If you wanted pristine wilderness, you picked the wrong spot. Isn’t the property in question up for sale? You (or you and your neighbors) could buy it, tear down the structures, and protect it forever as a neighborhood nature preserve.

Loganyj
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Loganyj
6 months ago

I went to this meeting and this article is a very good characterization. I just moved in down the street and this is a beautiful area. If we work together with the city and the county I’m sure this will stop. Also please email me if you are interested in a restoration project a little bit further down the street.
lky6.edu

Loganyj
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Loganyj
6 months ago

If anyone is interested in being more than a keyboard warrior and making some real change hit me up!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y8xGV37Slzw3IyHORJI0S9VCIB_fz6zh6ZjEP4HKQqc/edit?usp=sharing

Bill Lutjens
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6 months ago

Quite the story for a nothing burger.
It must have been fun for Ryan Hutson to be in attendance, how could he control himself from laughing out loud?

Seriously, Does the whole neighborhood get into an uproar when their neighbor uses a chainsaw to cut firewood to heat their home in the winter? Same thing.

Once the installation is complete you won’t even know it is there.
I remember when the issue was

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-cellphone-5g-health-20160808-snap-story.html
Is 5G technology dangerous? Early data shows a slight increase of tumors in male rats exposed to cellphone radiation.
I say , get over yourselves

Farce
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Farce
6 months ago

I do not feel qualified to make a comment against the opponents. So I am going to the actual site being discussed to see for myself the slope, the creek, the trees and the birds. I think when making plans to log and /or otherwise significantly alter a natural area that all the planners should be required to visit that site and meditate on it. We need progress I guess but at what cost? That’s a constant dilemma that should only be resolved after visiting with the spot in question…IMO!!

I like stars
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I like stars
6 months ago
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I would go, but apparently the Arcatians who live there haven’t made it ADA compliant. Where’s the inclusion and equity? Additionally, I really only like to visit places with excellent cell service. I like to look down at my phone and ignore my surroundings no matter where I am or what I’m doing.

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Farce
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Farce
6 months ago
Reply to  I like stars

True that! Why do people think they need nature when they can just look it up on their phone and see a short video explaining it? What is wrong with people?!

farfromputin
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6 months ago

Does anybody want this tower besides Pacific Towers and T-Mobile? It seems like a boongogle money grab. Being around redwoods a long time makes us forget how magical they are.

Big Rick
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Big Rick
6 months ago

47 comments on this article and 30 of them are Loganyj lmfao.

Brackish
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Brackish
6 months ago
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Loganyj’s link stating that 2.6 billion birds are killed by cats every year makes me wonder if cats should be the Audubon Society’s biggest concern. Wind turbines aren’t, If I’m reading this issue correctly