Former Southern Humboldt Woman Victim in Apparent Murder-Suicide in Anaheim Hills
A woman with roots in Southern Humboldt was found dead alongside her husband in their Anaheim Hills home last week, in what authorities are investigating as a murder-suicide. According to the Daily Mail, Allison Berry Guerra, 40, and her husband, Marco “Tony” Guerra, 45, were discovered deceased from gunshot wounds in their upscale Los Angeles-area residence on the evening of May 8.
Berry Guerra was raised in the Southern Humboldt area and attended local schools, spending much of her youth and part of her adult life in the region. The news of her death has come as a shock to many in the community.
The Daily Mail reports that police responded to a call just after 6 p.m. and found both individuals dead inside the $3.1 million home. A firearm was recovered at the scene, and investigators say there were no signs of forced entry. Authorities believe Tony Guerra fatally shot Allison before taking his own life. Allison was a mother to four children, two of which she shared with her husband Tony.
The case has drawn widespread media attention, with national and international outlets covering the story. Friends and relatives have posted tributes on social media, remembering the pair as kind, welcoming, and devoted to family. One friend, quoted by the Daily Mail, wrote, “Allison, you were such a friendly person and made me feel like family.”
Allison Berry Guerra and Ryan Hutson in 2018 [Photo by Ryan Hutson]
As the investigation continues, many in both Humboldt and Orange counties are left mourning the loss and grappling with unanswered questions about the tragedy.
Read the full article in the Daily Mail:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14696053/husband-wife-dead-la-home-luxurious-neighborhood.html
Note: This article has been updated after publication to include decedents ages.
Update: Sergeant Sutter from the Anaheim Police Department, in a phone interview with Redheaded Blackbelt, confirmed news sources’ reports that the initial investigation indicates that Marco “Tony” Guerra shot Allison Guerra before committing suicide.
If you or anyone you know are experiencing domestic violence, below are resources that can provide help:
- Mendocino County: Contact a crisis counselor at Project Sanctuary by calling (707)463-4357.
- Humboldt County: Call Humboldt Domestic Violence Services at (707)443-6042 or at 1-866-668-6543
- Trinity County: Contact the Human Response Network at (530)623-2024
- Lake County: Contact the Lake Family Resource Center community crisis line at 1(888)485-7733.
- Sonoma County: Contact the YWCA Domestic Violence Hotline at (707)546-1234
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Here kym, I fixed the ending,:
“If you’re a man who’s losing control, scared of your own anger, or already hurting someone — stop justifying it. Get help. Now.
Call a men’s violence intervention line like:
1-800-799-7233 (National Domestic Violence Hotline — yes, even you can call it)
Or check out programs like:
A Call to Men (http://www.acalltomen.org) — for men who want to unlearn violence and entitlement
The Mankind Initiative (for male perpetrators AND victims — http://www.mankind.org.uk)
There’s no shame in admitting you need help. But there’s plenty in refusing to get it and expecting the rest of us to live with the fallout.
If you can’t be safe — stay away.
Seriously, listen up all you misogynistic f******, if you are the kind of man who thinks control, rage, and violence including MURDER are acceptable in a relationship — you need to get help, before you ruin or END someone’s life!
There is no excuse for abuse. You are not entitled to her silence, her fear, or her body. If you find yourself stalking, threatening, or manipulating someone you claim to love — you are the problem.
Everyone needs to stop pretending that if only the victim accessed the proper hotline, everything would’ve been fine. Time to flip the script and hold abusive a****** MEN accountable.
Thank you!! 100% this 👆🏽
Thank you for saying this. I wish this could be a society where most men show, by example, a genuine respect for women that their sons can sort of soak up and pass down to their boys, and so on. We live in a largely sick society, fueled by bad influences, bad diets, and exposure to negative stimuli that poisons brains and doesn’t explain both sides of anything. Many outside influences assisted this jerk in doing what he did. He was the worst type of coward. There is help though, and thanks for putting up the links
Right on
As a man who loves, respects, and protects women I don’t disagree with your message, however, I don’t think the way you are conveying your message will reach the people who need to hear it.
Because there’s a veil of secrecy and shame over intimate partner violence. And cute little PSA”s at the end of a story where a woman has literally paid with her life, directing potential victims to seek help (instead of calling out the aggressors) perpetuates that disconnect.
My single voice (with some coaching on resources from AI) is meaningless against the normalization of violence against women.
Men are allowed -even encouraged – by cultural norms to invalidate and dominate over women.
To act like accessing a f****** helpline is going to magically stop this cycle is a joke and plays into society’s complacency and complicit role in this crisis.
If you love, respect and protect women so much maybe the onus is on you to deliver the message that will reach them.
If I may suggest a correction. The kind of man that does all this does not give a damn if they ruin or end another persons life. Even if they claim to love them. And you can’t say before “you” ruin or end someone’s life. Cuz we all know they could care less if someone else’s life is ended or ruined. It only their life, their feelings, that’s all that matters to an abuser, saying before “you” ruin or end a persons life, that’s going to get you a black eye or two, it’s never their fault.
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Very nice article…If I’m involved in the situation, they are definitely held accountable.
So sad what a cowardly piece of shit
Tragic on many levels and all too common in our violence permissive society.
Anyone experiencing domestic violence/abuse should end the relationship the first time it happens — it isn’t going to stop and it isn’t going to get better.
The penalties should be much stronger — and like rape — if the victims were predominantly male you can bet the penalties would be much stronger.
It’s absurd to imply that men get a free pass with domestic abuse. If anything, when women are the abuser there’s more leniency. It’s not 1950 anymore. And men are victims of rape, in prison. The laws are not gender specific or preferential. Nice try.
Im going to say what a good male friend said to me years ago, “I realized I dont get patriarchy because its not happening to me”
You have no idea what its like as a woman to try to get help. Yes as you say, men are raped…in jail. Not in their own homes. By their spouses. People who claim to love them.Leaving after the first time is not usually an option.
Friends used to be the ones who picked up women in the middle of the night who were trying to flee abuse while dude slept. Many times said dude woke up, got his gun&buddies, got in truck and chased the women while actively shooting at their car. Cops do nothing. The fed govt has attempted many times to ban convicted DV abusers from having guns but over 45%of said MEN were active cops. That tells you why nothing happens.
Sorry bro but dudes rape and abuse women way way more than the other way around. Read up on it. Rape is about dominance, as is most DV.
HOW MANY MASS SHOOTERS ARE WOMEN????? Pretty much says it all, and majority were DV abusers whether it was their girlfriends, wives, moms or sisters. Better yourself with some education.
Its not 1950 but boy do you guys sure want it to be.
Nice try pretending there’s any gender equivalency between DV perpetrated by men vs. women.
When it comes to serious injury, murder, and spousal rape women are disproportionately on the receiving end — and it’s not even close.
Yes, men are also victims of DV but there’s no proportionality in the severity of the injuries inflicted on men.
Yes, men are raped in prison — wait for it — by other men — which tends to show that sexual violence — very similar to severe DV — is most often perpetrated by men.
Do the folx you vote for support strong criminal penalties?
How about “anyone *committing* domestic violence needs to end the relationship and enter intensive treatment the first time it happens”
Uh……there’s people I know right here in Humboldt and in other places in the past that are in near situations that myself or others are quietly saying “just a matter of time…..”. You can spray paint “GET OUT NOW” on their homes and they will simply ignore the warnings because “We’re in love and have an amazing relationship” Yet can’t answer questions on their Instagram why they always have a shiner and wearing sunglasses. Or a new face tatt with their current lover’s name. On top of the last guy’s. You can only do so much for people. Sadly, the niece of an old friend of mine lost her life to one such quiet abuser when he shot her in the back of the head.
To the crybabies saying “yeah but men get raped and killed too by women!” Sure. It happens. You’re also a fucking man and presumably smart enough to get out of the relationship and nobody goes to jail or is injured. You have that ability.
Btw
abusers rarely let you “end the relationship the first time it happens”- not before you lose your friends, children, family, dignity, self esteem, finances, career& physical/ mental ability to have one, housing, physical beauty… you get the point. They believe they own you.
but yes, yes, and yes to everything else
If you partner is hurting you that is not love or respect or anything at all. Leave….
We know what’s best for an abused partner and advise them to get the hell out. For whatever reason, this ain’t gonna happen! Sorry for your tragic loss, family and friends.
So many comments here and I bet majority have only seen DV on Netflix.
I don’t know whether there was DV in this relationship or not. I would say they are friends of friends. I can say that Tony was very loved and respected by his friends. That certainly doesn’t mean he’s not violent. May 6, two nights before this incident I recieved one of the worst calls of my life, I mean text. It said “Missy, Jenny passed away. Tom shot her and then killed himself.” And a second text “at 8:47”. I tell my daughter let’s go by Tom’s apt, as I wasn’t getting a response to my texts. She suggests we call PD and see if it happened in Covina or happened in Montebello or if Tom was playing a cruel joke on me. She calls Mtb asks if they are dealing with a murder -suicide. Watch commander says they have what looks like a double homicide, but they can not say if it is or is not Jenny. I’m thinking they have 2 dead bodies, news says 1 Person went to the hospital condition unknown. I’m afraid he shot one of the kids or shot her mother. On 1/18/24 Jen was arrested by Covina PD and charged with DV, 50,000 bail, Jenny claimed Tom was the abuser, Tom’s a short man, but very sticky. Had to be between 250-300. I can’t say if Tom had a red mark on his face or not. He has a beard and big brush. I saw and still have the pics of the bruises on both arms. It was a three day holiday so she sat in the Covina jail for 5 days. I convinced her mom and sister not to bail her out. Tuesday morning she thinks they are going to take her to court instead they release her said it was a DA reject. The cops said Tom had an emergency restraining order and temporary custody of their daughter and not to go to the apt. I was getting ready to go to court and I got her call. Picked her up and We had a long talk. I basically said enough is enough you have been arrested twice for DV and he has been arrested once, somebodies going to wind up in prison or jail. She agreed she had to end it. I helped her with the paperwork, her sister and I went to court with her every time. Tom was trying to get full custody of their daughter and a 3 yr TRO. He didn’t allow her to get anything from the apt. No clothes for her or for her older daughter. Twice the police went with her to get clothes, but he wouldn’t open the door so there was nothing they could do. Jen has a lot of support from friends and family so they were able to survive. The child they share was not so lucky. She missed her mom so much. He would not allow her to talk or see her mother. He did allow her to see her sister and grandmother. I think only because Grandma fed her every day after school and allowed him to come into her home. She drew the line at feeding him. He had her for 1 month and during that time she missed 11 days of school. He didn’t have a job , I don’t know why he couldn’t take her every day. Jen always did it. He did not have any support, I will admit that, due to his mother’ s severe drug problem the judge ordered that Tom could not leave her with his mother. Mother had to be supervised. I’m going to try and wrap it up. Both parents were given a 3 yr TRO, 52 DV classes, a parenting class, ordered to communicate on Talking parents only. And 50/50 custody. Judge said both were guilty of Dv. Jen was able to take her daughter home with her that day. She was allowed to get her personal belongings with the PD standing by. Jen completed all the classes required . Tom did not, his excuse to the judge was going to be he was a single father, paying all the rent on the apt and he couldn’t afford it. Tom never abided by the 2 2 5 custody arrangement. The first weekend she was with him he called on sat and said she wanted to go home. Basically if Jen was not with her, or he could not use the child to hurt Jen he had no interest in her. I think the final judgement was on 2/14/24. I forgot to mention, that mention that when Jen filed the TRO, Tom had to turn in his guns, and he had a lot. I don’t know if the Covina pd search the records to see if he had turned in all the ones that were registered to him. On May 6 Tom showed up at Jens to visit with the daughter, he was supposed to have came the night before. I’m sure Jen was happy that he was being a dad. If only she knew. Her mom left the apt and went for a walk. She was always careful to never disrespect or show her feelings to Tom. Jen turned her back and he shot her. I don’t know where she was hit, but there was a blood trail from her apt to an apt two doors down. Jen ran out screaming, bloodcurdling. From what I have been told. He overtook her inside her friends apt. Shot her twice in the torso and then gave her the kill shot at close range onto one side of her face. Jen is still at the coroners office. So I may not be accurate as to where exactly or left or right. He then went to his truck in the parking lot , after a couple minutes he came back up stairs and went to Jens apt. He tried to open the door, but Jens older daughter had locked the door when Jen ran out and he followed . Praise the Lord she did that as I feel he went back up there to finish the job. I don’t know if he would have hurt his child, but I know now he could have killed more than just Jen. He then ran back downstairs to his truck. Word on the street is he called his mom , as she was waiting for his call. He allegedly said I hurt Jen really bad this time mom, repeated it and the shot the gun with his mom still on the phone. Everything up to the day of I have personal knowledge of. The day of I was told the story by eye witnesses. The phone call I can’t say.
Jen did everything she was supposed to do to get out of this abusive relationship. I thought I was helping her. And where is she? Dead on Mission Road in a fucking cold drawer. I never thought he would do this especially after 15 months apart. Really I thought he was a pussy. They always say a woman is more likely to be killed by her abuser after she leaves. So everyone with all the opinions let me hear it. What needs to be done to stop all this trauma and save these kids from repeating the same pattern? Maybe weekly lie detector tests for both parents? The breathalyzer s help a little with DUIs. I don’t know but I think more money should be given to research ways that will work. This is a horrible thing that had happened to both families . Doesn’t matter if you’re rich or poor we all bleed and hurt the same way.
FARFRUMPITIN
Is telling the victim to get out the right thing to do?
I’ll answer that one: Yes. Had someone heeded those warnings, I would never had to see this particular obituary.
I gave that advice to Jenny , and she listened and she’s dead. If I hadn’t been on her ass and this happened as it did to your loved one I think I would feel just as bad. Sorry for you loss.
I’m sorry, she was murdered by her partner. That’s a violent act.
“Devoted to family “????. So you kill the mother of your children? “We tell ourselves stories in order to live”
Anaheim Hills is in Orange County. Anaheim Hills is closer to San Bernardino County than Los Angeles. Not sure why Lisa said this happened at an “upscale Los Angeles residence.” The Daily Mail didn’t say it was in Los Angeles and they’re based out of the UK.
What a strange hill you choose to fight on here. First, she quoted the article she didn’t herself write. And it said “Los Angeles area” which includes the OC. Really anything 100 miles of say, Venice Beach is often considered part of the “area”. How did you miss that key word?
Lisa wrote Los Angeles area, not the Daily Mail. Anything within 100 miles of LA is not LA… unless of course, someone is not from SoCal or has not lived there. Then, I guess anything south of Bakersfield would be LA, is that what you’re suggesting?
This up what you think is relevant from the story of violence and tragedy? Wake TF up.
I’m awake. Awake enough to know that authorities don’t have all the facts in this case and more info may be coming. Instead of speculating I did some fact checking.
“Lighten up, Francis..” Sgt. Hulka
This whole article is based on the sleazy reporting of the Daily Mail, which is a notoriously disgusting piece of paparazzi driven drivel out of London. The Daily Mail is all about celebrity gossip and chasing them all around the world to get that $1 million picture. Seriously, paparazzi killed Princess Diana. Check your sources. What else is the news saying about this terrible tragedy? Murder suicide sells a lot more copies than any other way of describing what happened. I’m not trying to diminish this terrible tragedy, but I am a bit alarmed as this whole article seems to rely on the Daily Mail, which is a piece of British smut.
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/2-found-dead-in-in-apparent-murder-suicide-in-anaheim-hills/
https://gunmemorial.org/2025/05/08/allison-berry-guerra
https://www.yahoo.com/news/2-found-dead-apparent-murder-054804660.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9ndW5tZW1vcmlhbC5vcmcv&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALioXVpP4szaSQZa0PTsi6fkZT4rH1ksnLcMrv4_xy3xse_Eyej_QSFH47vz7pVD1VsKVrZjiaMP20n2ZWXwQxbsCZoCaBpaQLgShTCM-yes1xl6kw2BTdSwYE7TDiwiQaTG3jznPsPzF4xPsCW2OGn1SiNuHHKZ5XMA-iR-Xs30
https://voxtrendnews.com/tragic-loss-in-anaheim-hills-marco-tony-guerra-and-allison-berry-guerra-found-dead-in-apparent-murder-suicide/
https://www.facebook.com/allison.berry.1656
Who ordered receipts?🧾
Kym for the win!🏆
Again, you choose weird hills to do your battles on.
Google says it’s a 39 minute drive from the center of Los Angeles to the Anaheim Hills. If I were describing Garberville to someone in LA, I think “in the area of Eureka” (about an hour away) is pretty darn accurate.
it’s ridiculous that one needs to long in when trying to give a thumbs up or down on this site
It’s a perk I give to people who choose to make my life easier by signing in. Frankly, sometimes I think no one should be able to comment without signing in–especially when I see the name you chose. You’re on moderation.
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Bros- if you’re feeling anger or rage and directing it towards your woman then please seek help! Honestly. I had anger from a fucked up childhood. I never hit my girlfriends but almost did. I was able to go walk it off because we lived in the woods. Not many angry dudes have that luxury or therapy. It’s fairly normal to be angry but you gotta grip your shit and never hit a woman. Please reach out for help. That is being strong and being a real man. Never take it out on your own family- woman or children. That crap festers and gets uglier. And we all need to protect our neighbors from that testosterone poisoning rage. Angry men are not bad. What they do with that anger is what’s important….I chopped shitloads of wood, walked many miles, calm the fuck down bro…
This is good and appropriate advice that many people need to hear. Thank you.
you come from a good place but domestic violence abusive men don’t analyze their emotions or just don’t have control . They are willing perpetrators who make choices to hurt people. They aren’t twisted souls. They are scumbags who bully and hurt and feel good hurting . It’s not that they can’t stay calm.
I’m not arguing with you. There are sadistic sociopaths. No hope there. But there are also angry men who might do stupid things to others. See red, buttons pushed and the ugly demon inside rises up- these guys need a strategy to GTFO of the house before they do something stupid they’ll regret. I do put the onus on the guy. Domestic violence is a serious problem in our country. It needs better court responses and multiple approaches. We are the enemy…
Well said. Clear thinking.
Thank trump
This is no time for political humor.
Our world of trauma and abuse is hard to deal with. So many good people get hurt, and we wonder where it comes from. Are we fallen creatures , lacking guidance, morals, and spiritual strength to fight the evil that is brings pain and suffering to so many innocent souls.
we all must look at the world we live in,
and the world we want to ignore,
we think it’s someone else’s fault for the leniency of deviant behavior early on.
we must be shamed
if we hold on tight to the unsustainable game
of capital gains that stripped innocence through pain
its a mad mad world
there is no peace to be found following false prophets of religion and government.
cultivate sustainable feedback loops
lower expectations
raise awareness of the great divide
When we invest in illusions
there’s no where to hide
this whole thing was created by lies
empty castles fallow fields boarded up homes
sometimes the hardest thing is to leave it alone
I understand the desire to warn people that if you live with an abuser then they could kill you one day. I don’t understand how it is okay to disclose information given confidentially. I’m not sure I would want to put the private information out to the public that my dead friend was being physically abused. I’m not sure if it would hinder the investigation. I’m not sure I could break the trust even if the friend and the abuser are dead. Some might say sharing the confidential information could help a victim realize they need to get away, could save one person, and so on. Some might say that what is shared in private should stay private; honor the woman’s confidentiality, even after her death.
This article neglects to provide one or more of these all important caveats…
“The information has not been proven in a court of law and any individuals described should be presumed innocent until proven guilty:”
“Any individuals described should be presumed innocent until proven guilty:”
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So, in all fairness, let’s maybe not just too hastily, jump to any conclusions, and/or judgements, prematurely, prejudicially, and/or prejudiciously, as reporters, witnesses, and/or commenters…
Not only is the jury still out on this one, there likely be will most likely never even be one convened…
Therefore, either way, “As the investigation continues”, it’s a bit too early to be, in fact, casting judgement, isn’t it, folks…???
Maybe we should all just wait for the dust to settle, and for the official investigation to conclude, before we start bashing anyone, regardless of if they are dead or alive…???
May I bring your attention to words like “Apparent” and phrases like “Authorities believe”?
Kym, with all due respect…
Do you REALLY want to “double down”…???
May I bring YOUR attention to the phrase…
“Authorities believe”…???
Which, in this case is both shamefully wrong, and untrue, and SPECIFICALLY accusatory towards “Tony Guerra”…
As in, SPECIFICALLY…
___________________________”’
“Authorities believe Tony Guerra fatally shot Allison before taking his own life.”
-Lisa Music-
-RHBB-
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Please, I implore you,
Where did that specific quote come from…???
What is it’s specific source…???
Specifically, who is it’s original “author”…???
Specifically, Kym, who, by name or organization, are these alleged “Authorities”, because, in my estimation, as far as any real actually Authorities, that actually believe that, and/or actually said that, they actually don’t exist, and never have…
Please show the original, unadulterated, unedited source…
I believe that you can’t…
Because, it’s s totally untrue and fabricated, IMO…
There are multiple reports of this:
The orange county register reported that, but they are behind a paywall. Here is a quote from Patch that references the Orange County Register’s reporting, “Investigators believe the husband shot and killed his wife before shooting himself, the report said.”
Couple Found Dead In Alleged Murder-Suicide: Report | Orange County, CA Patch
And also here: Anaheim murder-suicide Investigation where they say, “Authorities believe that the husband fatally shot his wife before turning the gun on himself.”
The OCR paywall prevents checking for their source…
Is that where you got your info…???
If not, what was YOUR source, that YOU used…???
Because if one follows the Daily Mail links in your article, back to their “source”, it ends up with “Glenn Phillips”, whom I can find absolutely no record of…
I find that questionable…
Do you…???
Check it out…
Here are some of the various versions..
From your Daily Mail “obituary for Allison” link from your “Daily Mail” link…
The “original source”, as far as your article is concerned…
“Initial investigations suggest that Tony Guerra shot and killed his wife, Allison, before turning the gun on himself.”
Then it instantly morphs into…
(From your Daily Mail link…)
“Though the circumstances remain unclear, early findings suggest Tony may have shot and killed Allison before turning the gun on himself, ➡️ according to an obituary for Allison. ⬅️ ”
(Please note that the Daily Mail version above, differs significantly from their supposed source, which is the obituary, of all things, which they “cite”…)
Then, YOUR version…
“Authorities believe Tony Guerra fatally shot Allison before taking his own life.”
(Please also note that YOUR version differs from the Daily Mail version from your link, which differs from their source’s version from their link, and also from all other versions…)
Did you alter your version from your source’s version…???
Did they, and/or everyone else, also alter their versions…???
Where did the original statement come from, and where does the original statement begin to diverge, where do the ongoing divergences end…???
Here are some additional variously altered versions…
“Investigators believe the husband shot and killed his wife before shooting himself, the report said.”
OCR
( your link)
“Authorities believe that the husband fatally shot his wife before turning the gun on himself.”
AmsI
(your link…)
Law enforcement doesn’t normally release information as far as whodunnit, until after the investigation has concluded, do they…???
I’m just trying to find the original source of the exact information that you posted…
Trust, but verify…
Is the subsequent sources can’t be traced back to the original source, where is the accountability and or where is the credibility…???
It just becomes one big, happy, “he said-she said- they said”, merry-go-round circle jerk, with one journalist blaming the last journalist, and so on and so on…
So, why aren’t Kym’s sources, KTLA Yahoo, and Vox, making the same such outlandish, uncorroborated, claims, about what, “Authorities believe”, and yet Kym is using her sources to claim that Daily Mail is “accurate”, when her sources aren’t even corroborating ‘Daily Mail’s’ claims, or yours…???
Something ain’t adding up, and so I ain’t buying it…
And neither should you, IMO…
Seriously man, do you give the sun this much hassle because it came up today? You are making a mountain out of nothing. You’re making an argument where none need exist.
Like I stated in my below response that took me entirely too long to craft, I had multiple sites I sourced the info from, not just the OC Register. There are ways around paywalls if diligent. Regardless, since I knew you wouldn’t accept other reports, I called Anaheim PD confirmed the OC Register’s reporting.
As for the obit that Daily Mail referenced, it led me to some spam link so I could never look at it anyways otherwise I would have said, according to an obituary posted by… if I wasn’t able to find other corroborating sources.
And yes, we can go direct for most information, but it isn’t always necessary and takes up public resources when news agencies can’t rely on other, reputable, new outlets that report on the topic. Making the Anaheim PD respond to every news outlets’ inquiry on the same topic instead of relying on the network of available sources, is, imo, wasteful and unnecessary. If you think it is, I’d also have to call the coroner to confirm death, etc, instead of relying on the many reports and supporting evidence stating that Allison and Tony Guerra died of gunshot wounds. We have a system. It isn’t perfect, but doing this day in and day out, we know how to confirm/verify information and sources.
The fact that you read a news site daily that you believe doesn’t have that ability is confounding to me.
If we error, we fix it and acknowledge it. Question us, sure, accusing us of the things you have accused me of in this comment thread goes beyond curiosity.
“making the same such outlandish, uncorroborated, claims,” – TRG
The claims were corroborated and how is it outlandish? According to the Violence Policy Center 91% of killers in murder-suicide are men, so though I would never report that the man was the perpetuator without verification, it is far from outlandish to think that. Most Murder-Suicide Victims are Women Shot and Killed by Their Male Intimate Partners | Violence Policy Center
Let’s have some respect for these people, because the investigation hasn’t even been completed…
Because, there’s no way that the Authorities are alleging anything, or have alleged anything, before that’s actually been completed…
Let’s not kid ourselves…
“Authorities believe Tony Guerra fatally shot Allison before taking his own life.”
-Lisa Music-
-‘RHBB’-
[This is an untruth…!!!]
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Come on, Kym and Lisa, is RHBB just another “crappy right wing rag” tabloid with questionable, dubious credibility…!!!???
That’s fucking uncorroborated hearsay, at best…
It’s actually borderline libel, or worse…
Do you realize that your source is The Daily Mail, that Kym has aptly described as being a “crap right wing rag”
Link please, evidence, please…
Hopefully you realize that Allison’s obituary is ‘The Daily Mail’s’ source…
And your source is the Daily Mail…!!!
And our source is RHBB…!!!
After calling out squirrel, and his Daily Mail information…
How could you subsequently defend the “crap right wing rag”, and then also claim that it’s “accurate”, just because Lisa Music, and by extension, RHBB, used it as “their” source…???
Because, that’s using a double standard…
Everyone looks funny wearing a tinfoil hat…
It’s a funnier look swearing by it…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14696053/husband-wife-dead-la-home-luxurious-neighborhood.html
“Though the circumstances remain unclear, early findings suggest Tony may have shot and killed Allison before turning the gun on himself, ➡️according to an obituary for Allison.⬅️”
[This is also an untruth, regardless of the citation…]
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https://obituaryfamily.site/allison-guerra-obituary/Authorities believe Tony Guerra fatally shot Allison before taking his own life. Allison was a mother to four children, two of which she shared with her husband Tony.
➡️”Initial investigations suggest that Tony Guerra shot and killed his wife, Allison, before turning the gun on himself.”⬅️
[This is a lie…!!!]
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Allisons obituary is your “source’s “source”…!!!???
WTF…???
Sorry, Kym, and Lisa…
But that’s a complete joke…
It’s thinner than goose shit…!!!
It lacks any semblance of credibility…
It’s indefensible.
Yet you have, incredibly, published it as if true, and actually defended it, as “accurate”…???
There is nothing funny about it…
Kym, your other sources, KTLA, Yahoo, Vox, that you used to back up and corroborate the ‘Daily Mail’ as “is accurate”, actually have made no such untrue claim that…
“Authorities believe Tony Guerra fatally shot Allison before taking his own life.”
-Lisa Music-
RHBB
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Did you not see the difference when you “fact checked” the ‘Daily Mail’…???
This is from the “obituary for Allison” link…
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“Initial investigations ➡️suggest⬅️ that Tony Guerra shot and killed his wife, Allison, before turning the gun on himself.”
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This is what it morphed into when the untruth was regurgitated by “Daily Mail”..
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“Though the circumstances remain unclear, early findings suggest Tony may have shot and killed Allison before turning the gun on himself, “
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Then this second untruth was then morphed and regurgitated again , this time by RHBB, and also twisted into the very most untrue, as …
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“Authorities believe Tony Guerra fatally shot Allison before taking his own life.”
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The results of the kindergarten “telephone game”, at it’s finest…
Garbage in, worse garbage out…
Your fact check is, therefore just as inaccurate as The Daily Mail, which is just as inaccurate as their source, which was Allison’s obituary…
But, RHBB, is the MOST INACCURATE version, by far…
You, and/or any reader, would have had to have first clicked on the red “Daily Mail” link, and then, would have to have clicked on the blue “obituary for Allison” link, to determine where the lie actually started…
Because it damn sure isn’t accurate, like you have claimed…
Am I really the only one that discerning…???
Am I the only one that cares…???
SMDH…
If I was Tony’s family, especially if I was one of his kids, or his parents, I would be very unhappy with your uncorroborated claim…
Some corrections are in order, are they not…???
Because this…
“Authorities believe Tony Guerra fatally shot Allison before taking his own life.”
…is scandalous, if not slanderous, and, not only is it a lie, it’s liable to be considered libel…
Hopefully that isn’t to strong a sentiment, if it isn’t totally accurate…
I totally respect both You, and, Lisa Music, as being excellent journalists, and I hope that you won’t take my hyper observations personally, but let’s just say you were most correct when you claimed that Daily Mail was a crappy rag, and if you have rejected them as a legitimate source…
Consider the source: RHBB is a female centric news outlet that investigates legitimate leads, and sometimes local rumors, gossip and unsubstantiated accusations.
Both these ladies are known busy bodies who have a lot to say about almost anything if given the chance, hence their occupational choice, and the amount of time they spend in the comment section playing mother Theresa.
Their gift for gab has worked out to our communities benefit many times over, but they are also known to get rather “creative” with their stories, and words, in between breaking national news stories.
It helps for context sake to keep this in mind when clicking around any where on this website.
Could you point to a particular story that you feel is “creative”…?
Sorry bud. You are FOS.
I got news for ya: half the world is female. If you have evidence the lady who is deceased from a gunshot wound, leaving behind children, murdered her husband first before committing suicide, let the sheriff’s know. Otherwise, in 99%of the cases, the man did it. Law Enforcement knows this obvious statistic already Sherlock. So, if you you have news to the contrary, let someone know.
Or did you just find out about this from a “female centric news outlet”, and feel violated because you recognize yourself as an abuser? Or are you just FOS?
Those aren’t the only possibilities, are they…???
Oh nevermind me, just reading all the comments about domestic abuse violence / abusive men, while looking at the sponsored t-shirt advertisement on the RHBB website that reads.. “My Wife Beats Me” .. “Trophy Husband”.
Those kind of ads are geared to the interests of the reader. Mine for instance tend to show dog toys. We don’t have much control over them. But to the right of each ad is usually an X or and arrow that if clicked, gives the option of asking for the ad not to be shown again. We would appreciate if you would indicate any offensive images that way.
Username checks out.
“Hyper”… is an understatement. Go write your own articles then since you seem to have all the answers on how they should be written. Nobody is stopping you.
TheRealGuest you seem overly invested in defending the alleged perpetrator. Why is that?
I kind of agree with CsMisadventures; it might be time to bust out your own blog.
Nah,
I’m not trying to defend anyone, nor am I trying to accuse, and/or offend anyone…
I’m just interested in verifiable facts, and I haven’t personally been able to verify all of the facts…..
Believe me, I’ve tried…
I like links…
I like to do the research…
I like to “fact check”…
I wish that there was an available official press release, from the jurisdictional authorities, currently available to the public, to use for confirmation of additional various information not available in all media outlets…
I’ve searched for pertinent Orange County Sheriff’s Office press releases, Anaheim Police Department Press Releases, and even the surrounding Counties’ press releases…
No Luck…
What I found to be most intriguing, , in many of the secondary various media versions, that wasn’t included in the initial versions, all originally stemmed from the same, dubious suspect source, “Glenn Philips”…
It all linked back to “him”, and then, abruptly stopped…
Highly unusual…
Non existent on Google, nor any link back to Daily Mail, associated with it, or even associated with the site he was occupying, or to anywhere else for that matter…
Nothing…
Not as a writer, at all…
The site he was occupying, was actually associated with another random site that was to, wait for it, “create” a website…
Go figure…
I must admit, I’ve never run into that sort of a dead end before…
Therefore, I found, “Glenn Philips” from the pertinent blue Daily Mail linked article, , to be highly suspect, along with one of his “unique” claims…
“Glenn Philips”, as far as I could determine, is not only a fictitious person, posting some tidbit of dubious information, from what is in my opinion, and from my research, also a “person” that has also come from a relatively fictitious place…
Or at least one that has been created by Daily Mail, in order to use as a source, for a degree of “source” separation, as if that increased “Daily Mail’s’ credibility
And also from what I’ve gathered, media bias fact check clearly indicates that Daily Mail is a questionable source, because it uses, wait for it, unverifiable sources…
So, that, at least, checks out…
It is clearly stated, and I quote, Daily Mail is a “QUESTIONABLE SOURCE” and as such, “should be fact checked on a per article basis”…
And that’s what I’ve done…
Glenn Philips, is definitely an, “unverifiable source”, as far as my many unsuccessful efforts have been concerned…
Maybe someone else would like to try verifying the actual existence of “Glenn Philips”, of Daily Mail fame, in order to try and determine his sources of information…???
Because, I couldn’t, and I give up…
Maybe I’m wrong…
I certainly hope this won’t be misconstrued as insulting in any way, because it’s certainly not my intention…
Lisa told you that she reached out to Anaheim Police and got the information direct from them. Are you saying she lied?
Of course not, not at all…
I appreciate that she did that…
And I’m sure that she did…
I coincidentally had alread searched for a press release, in the areas that I mentioned, trying to do my due diligence, trying to corroborate “Glenn Philips’ ” iffy statement, before she mentioned she had contacted APD, not after…
How else can I take your “hyper observations,” TRG? You said it was totally fabricated. That is an allegation I take VERY personally.
I didn’t just rely on the Daily Mail, as it is pretty well known to be a questionable source, but they had the majority of the story in one place, a story I verified with other sources. Since some of our readers don’t actually read beyond the title, I try to give the ones that do a source that has the most comprehensive coverage in one place instead of making them go through what I go through to get the information which is spend a lot of time reading multiple outlet’s coverage on an out of area topic. I’ve included a few links above that also state the coverage of the authorities stating that the initial investigation shows that Marco “Tony” Guerra was the perpetuator of the murder-suicide, shooting Allison before turning the gun on himself.
Mind you, I had to go back and find those links as I close out all of my tabs after I’ve finished my report.
However, since my reputation and the veracity of the reports I sourced the information from are under question by you, I spent more of my day in what, increasingly, seems like a fruitless endeavor, to prove my ability to garner fact-based information. I contacted the very busy Anaheim Police Department to confirm the OC Register’s report of their belief based on initial investigation that Tony shot Allison. A very helpful Sgt Sutter was able to confirm that not only does the initial investigation indicate that very thing, but the OC Register’s report on it is also correct in stating that authorities stated as such to them.
While I appreciate your tenacity in many things, you seem increasingly committed to slandering my reputation (“This is an untruth”; “RHBB, is the MOST INACCURATE version, by far”; “That’s fucking uncorroborated hearsay, at best…It’s actually borderline libel, or worse…”- TRG) and questioning my integrity (“Because, it’s s totally untrue and fabricated, IMO…”-TRG). You, sir, are not a reporter, and understandably do not understand our process and what we do to verify something. While I was not here to defend my reporting, Kym attempted to do so by expending unnecessary time on this to not let your egregious claims lie, though she did not have my sources as she wasn’t the one that spent all the time pouring over coverage. Your excessive need to find fault simply bc you don’t see the entire process is contrary to the respect you claim to have for both of us. Kym, while not privy to my sourcing, trusted me enough to attempt to vouch for me while I was on assignment covering a story, one I’m neglecting now to respond to you.
In the past, I’ve often chosen not to respond to your repeated doubts and insinuations about our integrity—not because they hold merit, but because engaging has rarely led to genuine understanding or trust. At best, it ends with a belated “aha,” but not before it’s cost me hours I could have spent reporting on the many pressing issues before me.
However, I can no longer overlook how these public claims—especially repeated accusations suggesting illegality or fabrication—can damage both my reputation and the credibility of this news site. It’s hard enough to stomach such accusations occasionally; dealing with them routinely is untenable.
It’s also deeply contradictory—and frankly gaslighting—to say respect the reporters providing coverage, while simultaneously accusing us of fabricating information. You can’t have it both ways.
Good-faith questioning is always welcome. But the pattern has become one of relentless undermining rather than sincere inquiry, and you are crossing a line. Please consider the impact before engaging this way.
I’m following this up with saying TRG you have crossed a line into haranguing my reporter. We have a rule about insulting fellow commenters and while I except myself, I do not except my reporters any more. This is unacceptable. If you follow this up with anything I deem as insulting, you’ll be put on moderation and if you continue to be insulting that may eventually lead to a banning.
This is my website and I have the right to kick off anyone. And you are really damn close. My reporters are not paid enough to deal with this kind of insulting crap.
Lisa Music is right, I went way overboard…
If I could just try and clarify one thing, it would be that it was “Glenn Philips” and Daily Mail, that I felt that totally fabricated the original statement, not her …
I felt that it just got variously rearranged editorially from there, to prevent verbatim repetition, which is understandable…
I should have made that more clear, or not even mention it at all…
I guess I haven’t ruled out the possibility of a third party perpetrator, out of an abundance of caution, and mutual respect…
If that makes any sense…
My apologies to all concerned, especially to those that I may have offended…
The simplest explanation for something is usually the best and truest explanation —
e.g. — “Authorities believe Tony Guerra fatally shot Allison before taking his own life.” — vs endless reams of narcissistic rhetorical flypaper laced with personal insults and demeaning and false accusations.
It is curious why a person would pay such close attention to such a flawed site.
Unless:
”Trollin’, trollin’, trollin’,
Though the reams are swollen,
Keep them slurs a rollin’,
Rawhide!
Though they’re disapprovin’,
Keep them moderators movin’,
My & my comments are groovin’!
Rawhide!”
“Mind you, I had to go back and find those links as I close out all of my tabs after I’ve finished my report.”
Firefox has a “Tab Groups” feature that would’ve saved you some time. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/tab-groups-community/
I have the option to use tabs on the browser I use but often don’t bother organizing as I’m opening various tabs. I also always clear them when I’m done and on to the next report. I currently have 63 tabs open on this one browser. But thank you for making sure I was aware of tab groups.
You’re welcome! Your Professionalism and Kindness are truly appreciated.
PS. I’m thinking there must be a way for you to save your research tabs with an article — like footnotes as it were — in case you need to revisit your hard work. Firefox also has a “containers” feature https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-use-firefox-containers
I would like to offer an apology to anyone in her family that still lives here for the insensitive and irrelevant comments about this case. For the judgment and unwarranted criticism. What a tragedy, how awful and heartbreaking. May they both RIP
It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HcGdhrst18
Invariably we can always assume the most likely scenario given personal relationships as written above. 99.9% of the people commenting really have zero need to prosecute or investigate this. Tragedy is something horribly hard to deal with. Maybe people can look into why women are attracted to the kind of dangerous men who could inflict abuse on them.
men who are highly successful and business savvy recognize the red ocean that most business operates in. It’s a cut throat corporate world. This is what happens when we pray on the altar of profit.
rest inn peace
I would like to assert the fact that not all attempted murder goes hand in hand with continued domestic violence/battery. On April 18 of this year someone who I have known for 34 years, as a friend, came into a motel room in Shelter Cove while we were down visiting other friends, wielding a loaded .38. He pointed the gun at me then to his own head, back and forth saying that he had the intent to kill me, himself or both of us. In 34 years he had never expressed any intent to harm me in any way. I was able to gain control of the gun but I had to pull the trigger and I shot him in the hand then threw the gun and called 911. My point is, not everyone experiences continued DV before someone makes a terrible decision to try to kill. I just want people to be aware and to be careful because sometimes there are not overt and outward signs of what a person may be capable of. I’m not saying DV is not an issue, I’m just saying that sometimes even when a person thinks that they may be safe, they may not be.
Some free advice that works for me (most of the time).
Don’t feed the trolls. Don’t engage emotional vampires — they will make you think your “give a fuck” is broken, when in fact you have been emotionally drained.
This is great advice. Thanks. Hopefully apprentice sadists will read this and suck on a lemon sour, rather than suck from the rest of us
She Utterly Hated Jim Morrison, Now We Know The Reason Why https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ5C13VVR0o
Huh. I’ve a late relative that managed to wiggle herself backstage at a show in SF where JJ, whom she was quite fond of, to groupie levels, and Jim were playing. According to her, she absolutely hated him and there was an incident, in her recollection, of seeing her smash him in the head with a booze bottle in an argument. It would seem that it wasn’t the first time either (this being different from the braid pulling incident). Both being heavy drinkers as well as other things, but yeah I’ve heard from people that have managed to get closer in that she’d have killed him herself if given the chance. Alas the “27 curse” got them both.
Can someone research her Facebook real quick before they pull it down for clues? There’s actually no evidence that it was a suicide, except annecdotally, because the gun is found at the scene. Which means nothing, technically. The journalist who said “no selfie in the world could hide what I could see clearly” is just asenine and that’s an absurd thing to say. If u care about someone who just died, the last thing you want to do is say things in such a carefully crafted way such as to make others think it’s an open and shut case, especially suicides, because people are way too quick to accept suicide death and everyone knows that there are many suicides that are actually murders and even if u r getting abused, why not leave a note? Why not tell the world and explain why u did what u did? Maybe she did. But I bet there’s way more to the story, there always is.
Jon said:
“…even if u r getting abused, why not leave a note? Why not tell the world and explain why u did what u did? Maybe she did.”
Your comment reads like you think she shot him then committed suicide but all indications are it was the other way around — she couldn’t leave a note because she was the murder victim.
She was shot multiple times. He had one gunshot wound. They had been having domestic issues and he had been abusing her for years including incidents of choking her in front of their children. A few days prior to this incident he had ripped the sideview mirrors off of her car in a fit of rage. He had a history of being violent with her, she was getting ready to leave him.
As with suicide so much about reaching out for help HOWEVER only when you are in the position to need help and reach out do you find out how little there is abd how damaging the “Help” can be given little regulation, over sight and consistent mental health and social support infrastructure in our Country and so many little non “Profits” come and go run as little dictatorships often.