FDA Fully Approves First COVID-19 Vaccine

Yolanda Stevens, Occupational Health Supervisor, received the first dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine,

On December 15, 2020, Yolanda Stevens, Occupational Health Supervisor, received the first dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine in Humboldt County. [Image from the Humboldt County Joint Information Center]

Press release from the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA):

Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved the first COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty (koe-mir’-na-tee), for the prevention of COVID-19 disease in individuals 16 years of age and older. The vaccine also continues to be available under emergency use authorization (EUA), including for individuals 12 through 15 years of age and for the administration of a third dose in certain immunocompromised individuals.

“The FDA’s approval of this vaccine is a milestone as we continue to battle the COVID-19 pandemic. While this and other vaccines have met the FDA’s rigorous, scientific standards for emergency use authorization, as the first FDA-approved COVID-19 vaccine, the public can be very confident that this vaccine meets the high standards for safety, effectiveness, and manufacturing quality the FDA requires of an approved product,” said Acting FDA Commissioner Janet Woodcock, M.D. “While millions of people have already safely received COVID-19 vaccines, we recognize that for some, the FDA approval of a vaccine may now instill additional confidence to get vaccinated. Today’s milestone puts us one step closer to altering the course of this pandemic in the U.S.” 

Since Dec. 11, 2020, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine has been available under EUA in individuals 16 years of age and older, and the authorization was expanded to include those 12 through 15 years of age on May 10, 2021. EUAs can be used by the FDA during public health emergencies to provide access to medical products that may be effective in preventing, diagnosing, or treating a disease, provided that the FDA determines that the known and potential benefits of a product, when used to prevent, diagnose, or treat the disease, outweigh the known and potential risks of the product.

FDA-approved vaccines undergo the agency’s standard process for reviewing the quality, safety and effectiveness of medical products. For all vaccines, the FDA evaluates data and information included in the manufacturer’s submission of a biologics license application (BLA). A BLA is a comprehensive document that is submitted to the agency providing very specific requirements. For Comirnaty, the BLA builds on the extensive data and information previously submitted that supported the EUA, such as preclinical and clinical data and information, as well as details of the manufacturing process, vaccine testing results to ensure vaccine quality, and inspections of the sites where the vaccine is made. The agency conducts its own analyses of the information in the BLA to make sure the vaccine is safe and effective and meets the FDA’s standards for approval.

Comirnaty contains messenger RNA (mRNA), a kind of genetic material. The mRNA is used by the body to make a mimic of one of the proteins in the virus that causes COVID-19. The result of a person receiving this vaccine is that their immune system will ultimately react defensively to the virus that causes COVID-19. The mRNA in Comirnaty is only present in the body for a short time and is not incorporated into – nor does it alter – an individual’s genetic material. Comirnaty has the same formulation as the EUA vaccine and is administered as a series of two doses, three weeks apart.

“Our scientific and medical experts conducted an incredibly thorough and thoughtful evaluation of this vaccine. We evaluated scientific data and information included in hundreds of thousands of pages, conducted our own analyses of Comirnaty’s safety and effectiveness, and performed a detailed assessment of the manufacturing processes, including inspections of the manufacturing facilities,” said Peter Marks, M.D., Ph.D., director of FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research. “We have not lost sight that the COVID-19 public health crisis continues in the U.S. and that the public is counting on safe and effective vaccines. The public and medical community can be confident that although we approved this vaccine expeditiously, it was fully in keeping with our existing high standards for vaccines in the U.S.”

FDA Evaluation of Safety and Effectiveness Data for Approval for 16 Years of Age and Older

The first EUA, issued Dec. 11, for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine for individuals 16 years of age and older was based on safety and effectiveness data from a randomized, controlled, blinded ongoing clinical trial of thousands of individuals.

To support the FDA’s approval decision today, the FDA reviewed updated data from the clinical trial which supported the EUA and included a longer duration of follow-up in a larger clinical trial population.

Specifically, in the FDA’s review for approval, the agency analyzed effectiveness data from approximately 20,000 vaccine and 20,000 placebo recipients ages 16 and older who did not have evidence of the COVID-19 virus infection within a week of receiving the second dose. The safety of Comirnaty was evaluated in approximately 22,000 people who received the vaccine and 22,000 people who received a placebo 16 years of age and older.

Based on results from the clinical trial, the vaccine was 91% effective in preventing COVID-19 disease.

More than half of the clinical trial participants were followed for safety outcomes for at least four months after the second dose. Overall, approximately 12,000 recipients have been followed for at least 6 months.

The most commonly reported side effects by those clinical trial participants who received Comirnaty were pain, redness and swelling at the injection site, fatigue, headache, muscle or joint pain, chills, and fever. The vaccine is effective in preventing COVID-19 and potentially serious outcomes including hospitalization and death.

Additionally, the FDA conducted a rigorous evaluation of the post-authorization safety surveillance data pertaining to myocarditis and pericarditis following administration of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine and has determined that the data demonstrate increased risks, particularly within the seven days following the second dose. The observed risk is higher among males under 40 years of age compared to females and older males. The observed risk is highest in males 12 through 17 years of age. Available data from short-term follow-up suggest that most individuals have had resolution of symptoms. However, some individuals required intensive care support. Information is not yet available about potential long-term health outcomes. The Comirnaty Prescribing Information includes a warning about these risks.

Ongoing Safety Monitoring

The FDA and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have monitoring systems in place to ensure that any safety concerns continue to be identified and evaluated in a timely manner. In addition, the FDA is requiring the company to conduct postmarketing studies to further assess the risks of myocarditis and pericarditis following vaccination with Comirnaty. These studies will include an evaluation of long-term outcomes among individuals who develop myocarditis following vaccination with Comirnaty. In addition, although not FDA requirements, the company has committed to additional post-marketing safety studies, including conducting a pregnancy registry study to evaluate pregnancy and infant outcomes after receipt of Comirnaty during pregnancy.

The FDA granted this application Priority Review. The approval was granted to BioNTech Manufacturing GmbH.

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Alberta
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Alberta
4 years ago

Alex Berenson question: how can a vaccine be fully approved when we don’t even know the optimal number of doses?

How many doses will you take to feel safe from the flu?

2, 10, a monthly addiction for the rest of your life???

VMG
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VMG
4 years ago
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Alberta
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Alberta
4 years ago
Reply to  VMG

CDC confirms evidence grows stronger for Covid vaccine link to heart issue, CDC says
The condition, called is called myocarditis.

Hugh Manatee (banned by LoCO)
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Hugh Manatee (banned by LoCO)
4 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

That is a very disingenuous headline by the NYT.
Ivermectin has been prescribed to humans for decades and is quite safe. India and other countries are having great success in its use against Covid. No, you should not take the animal form of the drug, but people wouldn’t be doing that if the government was not pressuring physicians not to prescribe it and threatening pharmacists who fill the prescriptions.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
4 years ago

Oh yes they would. Pre covid they did such stuff. Every year people have killed themselves with animal meds. And ivermectin has a cumulative effect repeated doses although at something a healthy body eliminates it at the same rate it’s taken in. Well, at least it is less likely to damage than willy-nilly taking hydroxychloroquin. And there is an NIH study going on right now.

One problem is that the politicalization of ivermectin has led to both poor studies and fraudulent ones. The papers promoting it have been found to be defective or out right plagiarized. So far there is not one that is reliable. They have been observation studies that did not take into account the natural increase and decrease in local infection rates.

bearjoo
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bearjoo
4 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Ivermectin is just a zinc catalyst like Chlorquine bark or quercitin. You can buy it for $1 a pill from India online no prescription. It’s the human kind not the dumb arse horse kind.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
4 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

People take all kinds of drugs, even unapproved drugs, I think most people think drugs will make their life better. But as they reach senior hood the price is paid, no kidneys,no liver ,no lungs ,drugs do the body good.

Alberta
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Alberta
4 years ago

The New Nuremberg Trials 2021

A team of over 1,000 lawyers and over 10,000 medical experts led by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich have begun legal proceedings against the CDC, WHO & the Davos Group for crimes against humanity. Fuellmich and his team present the faulty PCR test and the order for doctors to label any comorbidity death as a Covid death as fraud. The PCR test was never designed to detect pathogens and is 100% faulty at 35 cycles. All the PCR tests overseen by the CDC are set at 37 to 45 cycles. The CDC admits that any tests over 28 cycles are not admissible for a positive reliable result. This alone invalidates over 90% of the alleged covid cases / ”infections” tracked by the use of this faulty test.

In addition to the flawed tests and fraudulent death certificates, the experimental ‘vaccine’ itself is in violation of Article 32 of the Geneva Convention. Under Article 32 of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV, “mutilation and medical or scientific experiments not necessitated by the medical treatment of a protected person” are prohibited. According to Article 147, conducting biological experiments on protected persons is a grave breach of the Convention.

fishkiller
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fishkiller
4 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

let the executions begin!

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
4 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

Not this again! Fuellmich says all the usual anti vaxxer nonsence- the PCR test is a fake, the pandemic is a fake, subscribes to the Bill Gates theory has created vaccines for mass sterilization, accusations of censorship,etc. Says he is suing everyone from WHO to news papers. Has been saying so since October 2020. Declares that any changes in public health regulations are due to the threat of his lawsuits.

Well anyone can sue. Announce when any real court anywhere actually agrees with him. Until then he accepts donations.

Aboyinthemachine
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Aboyinthemachine
4 years ago

Yet this whole pandemic was started by an infected bat???‍♂️

VMG
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VMG
4 years ago

Well, Hugh:

Think about it! An off-label use, for a drug toxic enough to kill intestinal parasites in animals…

I guess the folks who manufacture and sell this stuff want you to buy some too, but you could avoid being poisoned by merely getting the free vaccine available everywhere…

Ivermectin? No thanks!

Don’t be the fool dying in the ICU! Get your vaccine, now!!

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
4 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

Myocarditis is linked to just about every virus too. And it’s a sizable greater risk than from the vaccine. The CDC is starting a study now from VAERS reports.

ttps://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/19/moderna-vaccine-myocarditis/

bearjoo
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bearjoo
4 years ago
Reply to  VMG

FOOLS…. they owe you trillions. Dead men wont collect SS or medicare.

Lynn H
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Lynn H
4 years ago
Reply to  VMG

I would NOT take ivermectin to prevent covid. However, for those who insist on doing so, if using the animal versions it would be advised to squeeze out the entire contents of the tube into something else and mix it VERY well. Then ALSO do the math according to your weight. The reason being it is packaged for an animal that weighs a whole lot more than you do and there is no need for the paste to be consistent in smaller doses. If you take too much or hit a pocket in the stuff that is more concentrated it will damage you, at best.

Welp, it may not prevent covid, but I suppose at least you won’t have any round worms..

I hope they don’t make it prescription only for animals. There will be a lot more un-wormed large animals and a lot more round worm infected children if they do.

Alberta
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Alberta
4 years ago
Reply to  VMG

The vaccinated are worried and scientists don’t have answers
Kristen V. Brown and Rebecca Torrence

Bloomberg
Aug. 21, 2021

Anecdotes tell us what the data can’t: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate. But exactly how often isn’t clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others. And now, there’s growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.

Alberta
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Alberta
4 years ago
Reply to  VMG

Dr. Robert Malone invented the mRNA technology, which has been used to create the Pfizer and Moderna COVID vaccines. He has been speaking out about the dangers of the COVID shot, such as the damages the Coronavirus spike protein causes in the body. In this interview with Del Bigtree, Dr. Robert Malone calls for a stop of COVID vaccines. He explains that the COVID vaccine can cause enhanced immune response, which creates a worse reaction when exposed to the natural coronavirus. He says that it can create autoimmunities in the the body. Dr. Robert Malone also said that the spike protein is the most dangerous part of the virus (which is in the COVID vaccine) is similar to spike proteins in our bodies, and can open up (not just pass through) the blood brain barrier. This has very dangerous implications for the human body, and why there have been so many adverse reactions to the COVID vaccine.

Cincin
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Cincin
4 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

You know that expression “You cant fix stupid?”

Alberta, you really should think about why that is being used to describe anti-vaxxers.

You need to THINK.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Cincin

Cincin,
I’m pretty sure,
“You can’t fix stupid.”,
means that you can’t get un-jabbed.

So what does,

“You can, however, still try to fix stupid.”, mean?

It means if you got the jabs, you could also take the booster.

But here’s what just makes that stupider…

If what “HSU grad” says is true about the FDA approval of Pfizer
disqualifying the other EUA’s is that even though the Moderna jab has better durability against Delta, and may have performed better overall,
it will no longer be an option for initial vaccinations or follow up boosters.
They have already greenlighted mixing or matching the mRNA jabs for boosting.
Pfizer was already approved for 3 doses 15 and up.
So even if one had chosen wisely
(figuratively speaking), and gotten the Moderna jabs, because they work better, your getting a Pfizer booster. First come, first served.

The FDA just made Pfizer,
“King of The Hill”.
Even if their vaccine is inferior.

You wont be getting a booster that had been upgraded for Delta.

Wasn’t that supposed to be the beauty of the whole mRNA platform
thingy? Custom mutation variant tailoring while you wait?

And you wait, and wait, and wait…

But no delivery.

The first two suits are no longer a good fit, and all you get offered is one more jab of the same old baggy suit. Where’s that new tailored Delta suit? That’s what we need.
Or maybe a new Lambda suit?
Stop trying to pull the wool over my eyes. I’m tired of empty promises.
I don’t even want to hear them any more.

Did Ernie say something about trusting the government?

Do I trust my government?
No I don’t.

I’ll just leave it at that.

Martin
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Martin
4 years ago
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Guest, you say I don’t trust my government, will I suggest you buy a plane ticket and join the Taliban Government. I am sure they would be more than happy to give you a shot!

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Martin

You make the The US Government and the Taliban sound the same, Martin.

Martin
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Martin
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Guest, not really. The Taliban was used as a government that does not care, hence they would be happy to give you a shot, in reference to a gun my friend.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Martin

Both against my will Martin, both against my will.

Sekhmet
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Sekhmet
4 years ago
Reply to  Martin

Ridiculous response, Martin!

Martin
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Martin
4 years ago
Reply to  Sekhmet

Sekhmet, take a flying leap at an airplane propeller! Then you will understand what the Taliban do to people. Your gun shot is waiting if you care to join them. They just kill people!!

uri
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uri
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

well said

Cincin
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Cincin
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Yet you eat at taco bell every day, don’t you? Take aspirin and other drugs?

Just curious though, did you take science classes in school and did they explain what a virus/pandemic IS?

Not being snarky with that, genuinely curious if they still teach that in schools?.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
4 years ago
Reply to  Cincin

You do realize that there are lots of people who don’t eat garbage food or regularly consume any pharmaceutical products right?

uri
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uri
4 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

Good Question. Also they don’t know how it affects pregnant women and infants.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
4 years ago

Under 50 crowd, 29000 deaths from the corona in 2 years . That crowd represents 214,000,000 people in US ,that is a point .0017% chance of dying with corona, that would be seventeen one thousands of a percent of a chance. Now if your a boomer it’s 570000 deaths out of a population of 115,000,000 ,probably need to get that flu shot and stay home if your part of the second crowd.

NoBody
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NoBody
4 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Seventeen thousandths = 0.017
You mean seventeen ten thousandths = 0.0017

Mr. Bear
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Mr. Bear
4 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

So it’s OK if older folks die. Got it.

I like stars
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I like stars
4 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Bear

Strawman. You are the only person who said that.

wtf?
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wtf?
4 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

What do influenza vaccines have to do with this?

FogDog
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FogDog
4 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Unfortunately, if you look at excess deaths that is not the case.

Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
4 years ago

You can’t fix stupid. Are you stupid for not taking the shot, or for taking it? It all depends on whether you trust your government. Kind of a catch 22 isn’t it?

Bushytails
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Bushytails
4 years ago

““No more room,” Wilson stated, “for anyone.” Then he added, 100% of those in the hospital on Thursday and those who had died that day were unvaccinated. “

VMG
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VMG
4 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Wilson, Bohn, Bushnell, Bass… Big problem…

Steve is OK by me…

cu2morrow
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cu2morrow
4 years ago
Reply to  VMG

he likes to plat parcheesi

Alberta
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Alberta
4 years ago

The essence of science is debate.

Tim
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Tim
4 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

The essence of science is honest debate and consensus. Not fake arguments where extremist positions get posited as equal in merit to the vast majority of data.

Your point of view is fairly easily classified by calling the vaccines “clot shots” and citing Alex Berenson and it isn’t aligned with the vast majority of actual data. So don’t pretend this is an honest debate.

Alberta
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Alberta
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

Tim,
Public Health Scotland data shows that the fully vaccinated account for 73% of alleged Covid-19 deaths and that the fully vaccinated are suffering a five times higher death rate than the unvaccinated. Whilst Public Health England data shows that the fully vaccinated account for 58% of alleged Covid-19 deaths; 68% when you include the partly vaccinated, and are suffering a 3 times higher death rate than the unvaccinated.

Gimmie a break
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Gimmie a break
4 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

Alberta, can you post a link to those claims? Thanks.

Tim
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Tim
4 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

That’s a deliberate misreading of the data. 78% of the eligible population in the UK is fully vaccinated so there simply aren’t as many unvaccinated folks to catch the disease or succumb to it. There are still breakthrough cases and a tiny percentage of those are going to be serious cases with some ending in fatality. But the overall death rates are much lower in the vaccinated.

Different countries also use different vaccines which have different formulations and different efficacy. Yet the anti-vax arguments place them all in the same basket. Not an honest debate.

namer
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namer
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

What you’re really saying is that you’re glad you live somewhere where you can still blame the vax refusers, because otherwise (as in mostly-vaxxed countries) it’d be harder to deny that the least-worst vax is not terribly better than bullshit, at best.

Tim
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Tim
4 years ago
Reply to  namer

If the vast majority of people in the US were vaccinated, we wouldn’t be having this discussion because the hospitals wouldn’t be over-flowing.

namer
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namer
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

Nice fantasy.

Call Israel.

Or, are you arguing for more hospital and /or morgue capacity?

Joe
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Joe
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

Ok just like where a mask and lock everything down for a while and cov will go away. That didn’t work. Kinda like if you are vaccinated you don’t have to where a mask. That didn’t work. I think it’s safe to say the people calling the shots don’t know shit about the cov and should shut the fuck up tell they do

Sekhmet
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Sekhmet
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

Oh, bilgewater, Tim!

uri
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uri
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

Let’s make sure we understand the MRNA “vaccines” are actually gene therapy. The J and J is a traditional vaccine.
Labeling people as “anti Vax” is kind of lazy. Folks have real reasons to question if they want to inject something into their body they may not need. I hope you support freedom of choice. And please don’t try the unsupported argument that vaccinated people don’t spread the virus.
Personally I would like to see people take better care of their health so if they did get the virus (vaccinated or not) they would be able to recover more easily.

Mr. Bear
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Mr. Bear
4 years ago
Reply to  uri

Just because you don’t understand the new technology does not stop it from being a vaccine

uri
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uri
4 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Bear

What are you trying to say?

Mr. Bear
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Mr. Bear
4 years ago
Reply to  uri

It’s a vaccine even If you don’t think it is.

Is it a traditional vaccine? No. But it’s still a vaccine

bearjoo
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bearjoo
4 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Bear

the US patent said otherwise when Fauci first tried to patent it, that was years before he funded the gain of function in Wuhan.

Enjoy your kill shots! FDA approved!

Joe
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Joe
4 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Bear

Real vaccines protect against a virus. Cov vaccines do not

charlie
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charlie
4 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Bear

It’s a clot shot.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
4 years ago
Reply to  uri

That rational is not a standard for anything these days. And j&Johnson is not a “traditional” vaccine any more than the mRNA vaccines. Tradition vaccines were made from killed or weakened virus. Adenovirus vaccines use an engineered previously found harmless virus from another species to be a Trojan horse to enter the body’s cells and get it to produce the now famous spike protein of SARS-COV-2. “. The main difference is in how they do this: Where the mRNA vaccine is just the mRNA protected by a chemical shell, adenovirus-vectored vaccines use a virus we know is harmless to act as a Trojan horse. ”

https://ochsnerlg.org/about-us/news/whats-vax-differences-between-mrna-and-adenovirus-vaccines#:~:text=The%20main%20difference%20is%20in,act%20as%20a%20Trojan%20horse.

Willie Bray
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Bear

??That’s the most sanest thing I’ve heard about the Covid on this blog yet Mr.Bear. ??

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

Tim, even if 78% of the UK is vaccinated, if 74% of the people with infections are vaccinated, that would suggest an efficacy of about 5%.

If the efficacy was 95% like they promised, and 78% of them were vaccinated, you would expect the un-jabbed infection to jabbed infection ratio to be over 5 1/2 to 1, but it’s actually about 1 to 3.

There is over 16 times as many jabbed having problems as there should be, and that would be just for hospitalizations, these are deaths.

If you can’t see there is something very wrong going on, then you just can’t, or won’t, see it.

Tim
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Tim
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

You are assuming everyone who is or isn’t vaccinated is the same age and at the same risk for serious disease. But it’s heavily weighted so that older Britains have a higher vaccination rate than younger Britains.

Hence when breakthrough case occurs in an older person they may have a much lower risk of serious disease or death than an older person who is unvaccinated, they still have a higher risk than someone much younger who is unvaccinated.

The approximation I read for Great Britain is that someone over 80 with the vaccine has roughly the same risk as someone who is 50 without the vaccine.

Just for argument sake, let’s say someone over 80 who is unvaccinated has risk of hospitalization of 25% if they get COVID. If the vaccine (and there’s different kinds with different efficacy), has a 90% efficacy rate, they’ll still have a 2.5% risk of hospitalization *if* they get a breakthrough infection. If someone is 50 and unvaccinated they have a 2.5% risk of hospitalization and the vaccine would drive that down to 1/4 of 1%. These are all just hypothetical numbers to try and show what is going on in highly vaccinated countries. Your actual mileage will vary.

The effective risk reduction does of course vary by not only which vaccine you have but which variant is currently trending. Most of the vaccines are showing lower efficacy against infection by the Delta variant but still have significant reduction in risk of serious disease.

But all of them greatly reduce the risk compared to being unvaccinated and in the same age/health group.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

You seem to be wearing blinders.

Anything you can come up with does not explain how 95% efficacy became
5% efficacy.

The age thing would apply to both camps.

70% of the vaccinated aren’t old.

You just keep digging yourself deeper.

Keep digging if you want.

You made more sense before the last scoop you tossed.

bearjoo
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bearjoo
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

actually the essence of science is NOT consensus. The essence of science is hypothesis, constantly testing, and lack of dogma. Science is about asking questions.

Green Shirt
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Green Shirt
4 years ago

The sad part about this is the divisiveness in our community and our willingness to dismiss our neighbours as stupid, crazy, and/or brainwashed.

I’m speaking to myself here, not just flaming Ernie and some hypothetical
“other people”.

I fear that this will lead to more divisiveness if it results in vaccine mandates.

This time last year, I feared that everybody would be forced to carry a smartphone. I am now commenting on a burner phone for electricity/housing insecurity reasons.

🙁

Please stay safe, whatever that means to you personally, beloved community.

Farce
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Farce
4 years ago
Reply to  Green Shirt

Thanks for saying this! It’s pretty sad that we attack each other…dehumanize, insult and mischaracterize each other for the sake of our own ego and “being right”. There are valid reasons for concern on both sides of the argument. And there are extremists on both sides. Much like the presidential election we have again allowed the extremists to grab center stage and claim high ground both intellectually and morally. But the extremists from both sides fail in both intelligence and morals- they just want to “win”= have everybody do what they say. It’s bullying and we should all call it out…On a side note: Most people I know who chose to stay unvaccinated are extremely wary of BigPharm (I understand that view!). And they also have qualms about the honesty of the FDA. The FDA approval of aducanumab over the protests of many of its own doctors earlier this year does lend itself to questioning of the FDA’s motives. So…we have a severe case of distrust going on. The mistrust did not come out of nowhere. It should be addressed. Not bullied or misrepresented by vax extremists. Meanwhile the anti-vax extremists are having a field day. Much like Trump they are fueled by the controversy- it gives them endless material to provide doubt….And everybody is freaking out and feeding both crazy camps!! All I want to say is: My best wishes to everybody and good health to all.

uri
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uri
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Good point. What I find both amusing and alarming is how no matter what perspective one might be subscribing to is that either side can quote the same people. The flip flopping and conflicting statements from our “leaders” is causing serious mistrust.

fair and balanced
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fair and balanced
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

There is cause for concern on both sides but not symmetrically. There is overwhelmingly more reason to be concerned about not being vaccinated. Nearly all arguments against vaccination are based either on ignorance or emotional immaturity, rather than evidence.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
4 years ago

There is still a desire by some to maintain a traditional, natural route. This involves naturally acquired immunity. Yes it may lead to medical complications, but no choice is free of impacts. If I trusted medical professionals to make all my medical decisions that would lead me down the road of ruin. Medical errors made by well intentioned pros is a leading cause of death when under their care.

bearjoo
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bearjoo
4 years ago
Reply to  Hayforker

and Democide is also a leading cause of death….

Hayforker
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Hayforker
4 years ago
Reply to  bearjoo

True it was a big one in the 20th century.

Willie Bray
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4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

??Damn Farce that gave me goosebumps. ??

well . . .
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well . . .
4 years ago
Reply to  Green Shirt

Many of our neighbors are stupid, crazy or brainwashed. around 70% believe in the existence of “angelic beings” for f@cks sake.

However that does not mean that they should be dehumanized or treated without compassion. The stupid and deluded need the most compassion.

namer
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namer
4 years ago
Reply to  well . . .

What kind of asshole doesn’t believe in angels?

AA
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AA
4 years ago
Reply to  Green Shirt

Nice comments Green Shirt, and Farce.

Alberta
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Alberta
4 years ago

Ernie,

Your terminology appears defensive.

Can you rebut a comment sans aggression?

Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
4 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

nope.

Alberta
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Alberta
4 years ago

An honest answer, thx.

I am assuming you trust the present Government surveillance, militarized federal police, SWAT team raids, asset forfeiture, overcriminalization, armed surveillance drones, whole body scanners, stop and frisk searches, and the like—all of which have been sanctioned by Congress, the White House and the courts where our Constitutional freedoms are being steadily chipped away at, undermined, eroded and whittled down?

God Bless America and God Help this Great Nation and her Patriots.

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
4 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

Alberta there are other countries to live in.

Mr. Bear
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Mr. Bear
4 years ago

Always a weak argument.

Alberta
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Alberta
4 years ago

This is the best nation for this Patriot. I love the USA

But be my guest, Move to any country of your choise.

Jeff
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Jeff
4 years ago

I really like this country. It’s just that some folks try to make something that’s great the way it is, “better”. Their “better” didn’t work in other countries, they think they are smarter or they will be in the “better” class and can get it correct this time. I guess if you’re in the “better” class it’s great but if you’re in the “better do as I say” class it’s not so much better.

Sekhmet
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Sekhmet
4 years ago

Cannot deny those things, though, eh, MM?

Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
4 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

Alberta,
As usual on blogsites, misinterpretation is rampant. My comment was a stand alone comment, in reply to absolutely nobody.

Do I trust my government, absolutely not. That’s why we vote.

No matter what is said at least 50% of folks will disagree and 50% will agree. You must be among those 50% folks.

Alberta
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Alberta
4 years ago

Fair enough.

AZ Forensic audit due out today, many more to come.

The Military is the only way.

funnny thing
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funnny thing
4 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

“Government surveillance, militarized federal police, SWAT team raids, asset forfeiture, overcriminalization, armed surveillance drones, whole body scanners, stop and frisk searches”

All things opposed on both sides of the isle (although not as strongly by republicans). Nearly everyone who is pro vaccination is against the things you listed.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
4 years ago
Reply to  funnny thing

Wait, what? The increasing militarization and creeping police state weve witnessed over the last 2 decades isn’t supported by either side of the aisle?

Sekhmet
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Sekhmet
4 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

What it is!

Cincin
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Cincin
4 years ago

Do you trust tens of thousands of doctors, scientists, and researchers? Watch dog citizens groups? The heads of the worlds health organizations? There are study papers online-right now! that anyone! [edit] can read for themselves to learn all about the virus and the vaccine. [edit]

Yet thanks to Fox and Facebook, millions think you should deny ALL all those things, and listen to meth-addled racists on their websites, who trust failed lying con-men more than thousands of experts. (Who ALSO have families at risk).

Ya cant fix stupid is right, Ernie.

namer
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namer
4 years ago
Reply to  Cincin

It’s about trusting absurdly designed, “observational studies.”

It’s about thinking a couple months, or even a year, is adequate for a longitudinal study.

It’s about pretending and hoping bullshit is science.

It’s about Pharma money.

I like stars
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I like stars
4 years ago
Reply to  Cincin

“(Warning to LR: Big words!).”

Kym – Is this somehow not a personal insult?

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
4 years ago

Funny thing is, I don’t believe any of the people pushing the vaccine would have taken it if the Grand Cheetolini were still President.

Noooo
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Noooo
4 years ago

No, it is not a matter of trusting government, it is a matter of trusting medical specialists.

Of course ultimately trust is not required if you have time to become educated, but I understand not many people have years to devote to studying biology.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
4 years ago
Reply to  Noooo

I studied biology as an undergraduate and one of the main ideas they taught early on was to trust the experts. Later I learned to dissect the research papers and not just trust but verify. Unfortunately this was in a very narrow range of subject matter.

Much later I did learn to apply reason and experience to more of what I studied. With this I have come to the conclusion that the fight against the virus is being waged more with politics than science.

I can appreciate that most people are willing to believe what they are told, but I’ll pass thanks.

Sekhmet
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Sekhmet
4 years ago

Indeed!

Alberta
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Alberta
4 years ago

The FDA and CDC say there is no clear argument yet for giving boosters to people with normal immune systems.

You choice, clot shots for the rest of your shortened life, or natural immunity against the flu?

Hmmmm.

Bushytails
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Bushytails
4 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

Vaccines and acquired immunity are not mutually exclusive. Receiving a vaccine does not impair your future immune response to that or any other disease.

Alberta
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Alberta
4 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Nor does acquiring numerous innoculations.

Israel’s high rate of infections among early vaccine recipients may indicate a waning of the vaccine’s protections over time.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
4 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

Natural immunity wanes too.

Guest
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4 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Link please, Bushytails,
The evidence that exists of your assertion must be scant at best, if there is even one iota of it.

Have there been gold standard tests proving this lack of impairment? I don’t think so.

Is this just your opinion?

That’s different. You could be wrong.

Do you also assert that the booster will also result in no impairment to your future immune response to anything?

That hasn’t been studied either, has it?

lol
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lol
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

There is no biological mechanism yet proposed as to why/how immunization would result in immune system impairment. When one is proposed, it will be studied.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  lol

Call it displacement. The receptors now have their hands full, and can’t deal with other callers.
All lines are busy.
Now study it.
Then when you can disprove it, get back to me.
Until then, just get back.

Bozo
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Bozo
4 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

Hmm… now that the vaccines are with FDA approval… moving goalposts I reckon ?

>”The FDA and CDC say there is no clear argument yet for giving boosters to people with normal immune systems.”

Hmm… the CDC says yes.

————————- CDC web.

If FDA authorizes and ACIP recommends a booster dose, the goal is for the first people eligible for a booster dose to be those who were the first to receive a COVID-19 vaccination (those who are most at risk). This includes healthcare providers, residents of long-term care facilities, and other older adults.

The COVID-19 vaccines authorized in the United States continue to be highly effective in reducing risk of severe disease, hospitalization, and death, even against the widely circulating Delta variant. However, COVID-19 constantly evolves. Experts are looking at all available data to understand how well the vaccines are working, including how new variants, like Delta, affect vaccine effectiveness. If FDA authorizes and ACIP recommends it, the goal is for people to start receiving a COVID-19 booster shot this fall.

>”You(r) choice, clot shots….”

——— CDC on myocardits
On June 23, 2021, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices concluded that the benefits of COVID-19 vaccination to individual persons and at the population level clearly outweighed the risks of myocarditis after vaccination.

What are the implications for public health practice?

Continued use of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines in all recommended age groups will prevent morbidity and mortality from COVID-19 that far exceed the number of cases of myocarditis expected. Information regarding the risk for myocarditis with mRNA COVID-19 vaccines should be disseminated to providers to share with vaccine recipients.

… 11,000 COVID-19 cases, 560 hospitalizations, 138 ICU admissions, and six deaths due to COVID-19 could be prevented, compared with 39–47 expected myocarditis cases after COVID-19 vaccination
———

>”… rest of your shortened life…”

Hmmm… suppose you have any evidence of that other than the ? Must be a facebook user ?

Web link:

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-mrna-vaccines/fact-check-there-is-no-evidence-mrna-vaccines-reduce-life-expectancy-or-cause-severe-health-issues-including-infertility-and-neuro-cognitive-problems-idUSL1N2MC0VF

———- excerpt
Thousands of Facebook users have shared a video making bogus claims about the side effects of mRNA vaccines against COVID-19 like the Pfizer/BioNtech and Moderna jabs. These allegations are baseless and contradict evidence showing that the injections are safe.  

The clip features a woman called Professor Dolores Cahill (people.ucd.ie/dolores.cahill), who has repeatedly spread misinformation about COVID-19 (here , here , here and here). She says: “Anyone who’s over 70 who gets one of these mRNA vaccines will probably sadly die within about two to three years.   

Fact Check-There is no evidence mRNA vaccines reduce life expectancy or cause severe health issues including infertility and neuro-cognitive problems 

———–
However related… the Pandemic Led to Largest Drop in US Life Expectancy Since WWII

According to a study published Thursday in BMJ, the average US life expectancy decreased by nearly 2 years from 2018 to 2020, with the worst decline found in minority groups such as Black and Hispanic people. Largely due to the pandemic, NPR reports that the drop in average US life expectancy, from 78.7 years in 2018 to 76.9 years in 2020, marks the largest decrease observed since World War II (WWII). In addition to COVID-19, factors associated with decreased longevity included disruptions in health care, disruptions in chronic disease management, and the behavioral health crisis.

>”… natural immunity against the flu?”

Hmm… You are recommending ‘get the COVID-19 virus’. Had it yet ?
I suppose if you live and don’t have any long term health effects (lung, heart, mental) from COVID-19*
you’re good to go for the ‘current virus’… except for:

Unfortunately… there is no natural immunity against the long term ‘flu’ or future Covid-19 variants.
Both er… ‘natural’ and now Covid-19 mutate periodically.

Bummer.

Auntie Ovine
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4 years ago
Reply to  Bozo

Unfortunate indeed. Spending any time or effort into reseahing out the best information is not necessary if you are willing to have someone on a YouTube video tell you what to do. Anti vaxxer websites echo this crap without any examination and to people who view them constantly it seems as if there is the tidal wave of The Truth being expounded. In reality, it’s a small group of fanatics being repeated geometrically. That’s why there is no variation in the many places it can be found.

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I like stars
4 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Ah! Now it makes perfect sense. We know one group is lying, because their message is consistent. And, of course, by the same logic, folks like Fauci must be telling the truth, because their story is constantly changing.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
4 years ago

So if I’m 50 and under ,I have the same odds of dying from the flu every year. Just more ridiculousness, boomers get your jabs, under 50 crowd, do whatever you want, no threat here.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
4 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Boomer. Boomer. Boomer. Boomer. Oh, and Boomer Boomer Boomer. Then Boomer Boomer the Boomer but Boomer Boomer after the Boomer Boomer. Furthermore, Boomer Boomer Boomer.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
4 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Excellent rebuttal, glad we agree on the under 50 group , finally, Kym was right, repetition does work .

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
4 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Wow rude much? If you are lucky enough to reach retirement age may you be equally respected. I close my eyes and think of a person saying that to my kindest souled grandmother. Sad, tragic, repugnant at best.

NRG
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NRG
4 years ago

Relax. This is an obvious parody reference to the famous (among English teachers) grammatically-correct sentence:

“Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo

I like stars
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I like stars
4 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

You forgot the second part of the cheer.

Sooner!

FogDog
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FogDog
4 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Remember when respecting your elders was an admirable quality? So much for those old fashioned family values from the right. The best solution is cleary pushing anyone over 50 off a cliff…Oh wait, that’ll be me someday…I guess we’ll need to think that through again.

cu2morrow
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cu2morrow
4 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

what kinda flu last for two straight years ?

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
4 years ago
Reply to  cu2morrow

I thought the flu had been around for centuries?

cu2morrow
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cu2morrow
4 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

it has a season

izzy
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izzy
4 years ago

it’s been a long time since the FDA “inspired confidence”.
Maybe a little glyphosate to go with those shots?

HSU grad
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HSU grad
4 years ago
Reply to  izzy

I was leaning more towards a Vioxx breakfast combo

cu2morrow
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cu2morrow
4 years ago

Ill be damned if I’m gonna stock up on toilet paper again … lol

uri
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uri
4 years ago
Reply to  cu2morrow

I’ve got some left over from 2020 if you run out. Been rationing to do my part

Chris
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Chris
4 years ago

Dear DR. Schlock,
NOW will at least the “but it’s not fda approved” naysayers get vaxxed?
– Tanya from Canntucky

Dear Tanya,
Probably not, Tanya from Canntucky (there a country song in there), for then they’ll move on to how corrupt, etc, the fda is. And there’s medical studies coming out of N Korea, Afghanistan, Eritrea to back up the naysayers.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
4 years ago
Reply to  Chris

Misinformation addiction is not any worse in Kentucky than here. In fact considering the difference in population there are more Californians swallowing this stuff than Kentuckians by far.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
4 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

You don’t get out much do you, there is a whole world of younger generation realizing this is no deadlier than the flu. And every day that goes by proves them to be right.

Chris
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Chris
4 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Um, we r the tucky in Cann-

HSU grad
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HSU grad
4 years ago

Legally this means that any other shots approved under a EUA, such as Moderna and J&J, are now illegal to administer.

Guest
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4 years ago
Reply to  HSU grad

HSU grad,

That is very interesting. Good eye.
I could see that that is true, it’s unfortunate, in that the Moderna vaccine works far better than Pfizer against Delta. (76% to 42%). J&J isn’t even worth mentioning, anyway.

There you have the FDA,
in there ultimate wisdom,
a prime example.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

No it doesn’t work better. The only sure thing is vaccination works much better than no vaccination.

HSU grad
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HSU grad
4 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

absolute poppy cock. face it, people: you’re going to have to let this virus work its way through the population.

BBB
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BBB
4 years ago
Reply to  HSU grad

There’s no gargantuan profits to do as you suggest. Heresy, I dare say. Furthermore, this ruse must be maintained if we are to “enjoy” the fruits of the Great Reset.

AA
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AA
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Pfizer’s shares soared today.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  AA

You should see Moderna Stockton price. Up 7.55% or so today. FDA approval for them must be being seen on the horizon.

Up over 2125% since December 2018, when it IPO’d @ $18 and change, per share, it sits at $411 and change, 32 months later.

An average of 2.2% every damn day.

Some folks got real, real rich off this virus.

Most folks just got allot poorer.

namer
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namer
4 years ago
Reply to  AA

MRNA did much better.

But, BNTX killed it. So to speak.

uri
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uri
4 years ago
Reply to  HSU grad

HSU grad,
Has this been verified legally? I did see this mentioned on the HILL

HSU grad
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HSU grad
4 years ago
Reply to  uri

it’s a fundamental aspect of EUA. We don’t need to wait for some lousy judge to run cover for them.

Me
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Me
4 years ago

Eat healthy, exercise at least 30 minutes a day and drink lots of water.

Health doesn’t come from a needle.
Lose that fat

sure
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sure
4 years ago
Reply to  Me

that’s how we beat measles and polio, right?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  sure

And HIV.

And Cancer…and….

Me
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Me
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Measles, polio, hiv and cancer ?
Lol, what a stupid comparison .

I like stars
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I like stars
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Good to see you back TRB. Hope you are safe from fire danger.

Btw, last I heard neither HIV nor cancer had been beaten.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
4 years ago
Reply to  sure

Those are different diseases. Why equate them with this situation?

HSU grad
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HSU grad
4 years ago
Reply to  sure

sanitation was what beat those, but please keep repeating urban myths.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
4 years ago
Reply to  Me

That is good advice but, like the old saw about not worrying about draining the swamp when you’re up to your ass in alligators, it of no immediate (or likely long term either) use. Get vaccinated and save your fat ass.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Rule #2… No fat ass shaming.

It Causes ‘Mass’ Hysteria.

cu2morrow
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cu2morrow
4 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Auntie ,,, roflmao good one

Doug
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Doug
4 years ago

all you brainwashed egotistical “sCiEnCe” trolls are going to be in for a rude awakening this winter when you realize you’ve decimated your immune system from taking experimental injections. My SoUrCes come from REAL DOCTORS not paid propaganda mouthpieces. Even the maker of the Mrna shot Dr Robert Malone is trying to tell you. But no he’s a “conspiracy theorist”. My god its gonna hurt when they realize how WRONG they’ve been the whole time.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug

No- at bBqs. Boy is that a load of nonsense- first everyone’s going to die a couple of days after the shot. Then two weeks. Then six months. Even got the Malone part of it wrong. Probably Mullins is next in the batters line up.

Do you think there’s a bunch of hired posters that the anti vaxxers use to troll online? Like the Russians?

Alberta
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Alberta
4 years ago

Tim,
Prove your findings.

Show me short and long term Human trial tested and vetted findings using actual covid material.

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
4 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

If looking long enough and hard enough you will find articles to support whatever a person seeks. Google and search engines are amazing like that. Litigaton, liability, loss, love. Even our lovely smartphones get trained to the things that we look for and communicate about and as we use them they become more specific.❤
The life you save MAY NOT BE YOUR OWN!

namer
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namer
4 years ago

“articles”

Tim
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Tim
4 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

Nope.

You have an anti-government, anti-vaccine agenda to push and clearly aren’t interested in a rational discussion of any topic related to COVID vaccines. Not wasting the effort in a meaningless internet debate to refute that.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

It takes awhile but eventually the “prove it” party line is too much of a deliberate time waster. W C Fields line “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.” comes to mind.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago

The FDA approved oxycontin and thalidomide, too. I don’t plan on taking those either.

A giant bureacratic agency driven by the pharmaceutical circle jerk of public/private intercourse is not a meaningful stamp of approval.

Fuck the FDA!
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Fuck the FDA!
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Best comment ever ✓

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

The CDC never approved thalidomide. In fact went on a campaign to prevent its use. And oxycontin is still in use. The problem with oxycontin was not that it was approved but that its limited approval was not enforced and it turned a blind eye to company malfeasance in off label marketing. That was a failure of the FDA .

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/health/thalidomide-fda-documents.html

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

I assume you meant FDA.

“Despite its harmful side effects, thalidomide is FDA-approved for two uses today—the treatment of inflammation associated with Hansen’s disease (leprosy) and as a chemotherapeutic agent for patients with multiple myeloma, purposes for which it was originally prescribed off-label. ”

https://helix.northwestern.edu/article/thalidomide-tragedy-lessons-drug-safety-and-regulation

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

How about that? A drug that works when used properly. It was not prescribed in the US during pregnancy even though there was quite a lot of wide spread use in Europe. It was the FDA inspector Frances Kelsey who prevented it according to your link.

But if you come down with leprosy or multiple myeloma, you might be prescribed it. I didn’t know. I thought you meant as it was being used for morning sickness which was highly dangerous which was the only use I ever heard of.

Unjabbed Guest
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Unjabbed Guest
4 years ago

U.S.—100 million Americans who were previously hesitant to get vaccinated are rejoicing today after the FDA approved it, proving that everything is totally safe.

According to sources, the Food and Drug Administration is completely trustworthy and has never approved harmful drugs for the public before. Those sources further confirmed that the FDA is a part of the government, which has never lied or been incompetent or corrupt in any way.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
4 years ago
Reply to  Unjabbed Guest

Really the FDA is not in competition with anti vaxxers for harmful behavior. Anti vaxxers have killed a lot of people with their fanatical agendas.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
4 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Wow. How many people have “anti vaxxers” killed? How did they kill them?

I’m again reminded that we’ve never gotten a clear answer from you who “the anti-vaxxers ” are. What qualifies someone? Is it a formal group, a discreet ideology?

bearjoo
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bearjoo
4 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

I hope you eat your own cooking so to speak. We will see who is around in 5 years. If its you folks, I will salute you.

But this is a first of its kind shot which doesn’t prevent spread or transmission. Fauci admits all of this.

For those like me, we are already stocked up on food and social distanced for good…. until this ends.

If you have to show up to work at McDonalds, the choice is tougher.

God Bless the poor and unvaccinated. God’s people. The meek shall inherit the Earth

Unjabbed Guest
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Unjabbed Guest
4 years ago

“Yeah, I’ve always trusted the government and drug companies, so I guess I’m ok to get the vaccine now,” said Bubba Snugglebrugg, who was previously a militant anti-vaxxer. “I can’t wait to get my ‘Fauci Ouchie’ and wear my Pfizer sticker! Thanks, FDA!”

Sources within the FDA say the vaccine went through a rigorous approval process of various government bureaucrats saying “Oh well, what the heck—we may as well approve this now”, and signing a very important-looking document with a government seal and some big words on it.

“That’s good enough for me!” said Snugglebrugg.

https://babylonbee.com/news/100-million-vaccine-hesitant-americans-will-get-the-shot-now-that-a-government-agency-said-its-ok

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
4 years ago
Reply to  Unjabbed Guest

A whole lot of credulous conspiracy buffs can’t tell that the Babylon Bee is offering satire at all. They believe it is true. But then it’s become hard to see that the Bee itself can tell the difference anymore. It’s become like the Colbert Report- a satire of a satire of a satire. It doesn’t understand issues but it knows what it likes.

namer
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namer
4 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Who told you that

Unjabbed Guest
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Unjabbed Guest
4 years ago

And if you don’t like it they have a place for you on the Orange bus.

Former head of the NSA and the CIA during the George W. Bush presidency, General Michael Hayden, declared that he thinks it would be a “good idea” to send unvaccinated supporters of President Trump to die in Afghanistan.
https://twitter.com/GenMhayden/status/1429436196149661696

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
4 years ago
Reply to  Unjabbed Guest

Oh well. No sense in leaping off the same cliff just because you did.

bearjoo
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bearjoo
4 years ago
Reply to  Unjabbed Guest

HE called us Taliban…Just remember, the Taliban won in the end… just like the unvaccinated (aka unterminated) will win also.

Unjabbed Guest
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Unjabbed Guest
4 years ago

It’s your choice: School or Afghanistan the Biden ‘Merica’

one way or another your gonna die by metal poisoning… do if for “Merica!”

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
4 years ago
Reply to  Unjabbed Guest

We all get more metals out of what we eat willingly, breathe in on a thickly smoke filled day or slather items on our skin than could ever be vaccinated in a lifetime of injections. Toxins can be virtually anything then add viral, bacterial pathogens. Many ways to become compromised/ill. ❤

HSU grad
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HSU grad
4 years ago

The point is that the shots are unnecessary for most of the population. As it does not prevent you from getting and spreading Covid, there is no benefit to brow-beating everyone into taking the shots. This may shock your mush brain but the majority of the population is not at risk of death or severe health impacts.

bearjoo
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bearjoo
4 years ago
Reply to  HSU grad

yes its total BS. Its a fairy tale. Only in this story, the Wizard of Oz is luciferase.

God Bless the Organic

Sekhmet
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Sekhmet
4 years ago

That’s the deal, kid. They care not what they put in EVERYTHING!

AA
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AA
4 years ago

People protested the Covid vaxx mandates yesterday in front of the local St. Joseph’s Hospital.

namer
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namer
4 years ago
Reply to  AA

??

Ben Round
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Ben Round
4 years ago

The word, early in the article that is disturbing is ‘marketed’, as in “….Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty (koe-mir’-na-tee)….”.
With people in less advantaged countries dying and without access to vaccines, the ‘recipe’ should be shared, open source, with any in need. Especially since, to my understanding, our government has invested million$ into the research! But, of course, very sadly, that not the American way! 🙁

AA
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AA
4 years ago

Fully vaxxed Jesse Jackson and his wife are being treated in the hospital for Covid.

namer
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namer
4 years ago
Reply to  AA

Would this be a weird time to check and see how Al Sharpton is doing?

bearjoo
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bearjoo
4 years ago

God Bless those who have died from Covid and from the Vaccine.

Nice Marmot
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Nice Marmot
4 years ago

Covid Scientist might Face Death Penalty. – India may execute a World Health Organization Scientist for misleading the public about Ivermectin if found guilty…”Punishment under section 302 of the Indian Penal Code is death penalty or life imprisonment.”

https://indianbarassociation.in/legal/

That would be a shot heard around the world….

Chris
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Chris
4 years ago

Dear Dr Schlock,
Know of any good magacites?
– Glen, from Knoll.

Dear Glen,
First there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is.
Dr S Chlock

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4 years ago

Just tried to post a link about natural immunity and it disappeared….again.

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4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

There was no https. Thanks though. I knew it you didn’t have anything to do with it.