Armed Robbery With Shots Fired at Permitted Cannabis Farm

Armed Robbery feature iconThough details are sketchy at this point, a BOLO announced over the scanner reports that a cannabis farm was the victim of an armed robbery where shots were fired and two vehicles were taken. According to the BOLO, the farm was located in the French Camp Road area of the Bald Hills which is west of Hoopa. The BOLO stated that the suspects “fired a single shot at the feet of one of the workers.” Then, as they left, the suspects fired multiple shots.

According to Sgt. Greg Allen with the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Department, the incident occurred around 9 a.m. today. He confirmed, “[T]here was a robbery of a legal permitted marijuana this morning in the Hoopa Valley. Several suspects were armed with firearms- no injuries were reported- Deputies are currently investigating and following leads…No arrest have been made at this time.”

According to the BOLO, 500 pounds of marijuana was taken as well as passports and “other various items.” The marijuana was loaded into a white Ford F150 pulling an unknown type of trailer. Two vehicles were stolen by the suspects from the legal farm. It is unclear if the vehicles are still being sought.

Allen was unable to give any additional details though he said there would be a press release when there is more information.

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Doggo
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Doggo
4 years ago

When is the County going to step up and offer protection to legal farmers? Are they waiting for a racket to step in and do the job. These farmers have paid big money to get their farms permitted & approved and the county takes the money and hangs them out to dry.
Do they pay tax on what was lost by the square foot? No crop insurance for cannabis? The county has a huge responsibility here. IMHO
(I am opposed to everything the county has done regarding cannibis so far☺ but really!!!!))

John E. Robbins Jr
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John E. Robbins Jr
4 years ago
Reply to  Doggo

Get your damn facts straight, so sick of you reporters always tieing all this Marijuana shit to my Reservation, My Home all of my life and if you pay so damn much attention what happens here or as you say 9 miles from Hoopa in the Bald Hills area. You would know numerous times groups have banned together to put Marijuana initiatives on our Election Ballot and each time each initiative has been voted down as to ZERO tolerance for any Marijuana on the Hoopa Valley Indian Reservation!!!

Kelley Lincoln
4 years ago

What Kym wrote was, “the farm was located in the French Camp Road area of the Bald Hills which is west of Hoopa.” She didn’t intend to say that the grow had any relation to the Hoopa people, but to tell Southern Humboldt readers where Bald Hills is.
We are aware that the Hoopa Tribe has been clear in its rejection of cultivation with the Tribal boundary.

Farce
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Farce
4 years ago
Reply to  Kelley Lincoln

It looks like this grow was in the Pine Creek watershed. I thought that was all off-limits to growing as demonstrated by Operation Yurok? How did this place ever even get a permit without the Hoopa or Yurok shutting it down? Pretty ballsy/stupid to develop a huge permitted grow right next to both reservations, on a side road far away from any help out amongst all the lawlessness and poverty that is out there…and then have basically zero security for your crop at harvest! I’m glad nobody got shot but I’m not surprised at all that this happened…This will be another example of why permits will be rescinded in outlying areas. That is coming…a couple more years…

It doesn't matter
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It doesn't matter
4 years ago
Reply to  Kelley Lincoln

What good is reading without comprehension?

Rez life
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Rez life
4 years ago

And you also know very well being from Hoopa that it is very possible that the armed assailants are from weitchpec or Hoopa. Granted it may not be located in the Hoopa Valley, but it is just off the Yurok Rez And Rez life is full of Gun packing, Ass whooping, and Drug Thieving shenanigans…

Billy the Kidder
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Billy the Kidder
4 years ago
Reply to  Rez life

How do you tell the difference between “Rez life” and US foreign policy then?

Lynth
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Lynth
4 years ago

Lol!

Cowardly thieves
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Cowardly thieves
4 years ago

Mr Robbins, unfortunately these thieves are emanating from and residing on your beloved reservation. Yes I have first hand knowledge of this.

Billy the Kidder
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Billy the Kidder
4 years ago

This post is like a delicious 7 layer irony cake.

lol no more protection
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lol no more protection
4 years ago
Reply to  Doggo

They already offer protection to legal farms, in the form of busting those who didn’t pay for protection. They were able to pay big money because almost all of them were illegal mega growers, the rest are carpetbaggers. Of course they wont pay tax on lost crops.

Billy the Kidder
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Billy the Kidder
4 years ago

lost crops are a tax deduction my friend. that means you and i are paying for this one.

Government Cheese
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Government Cheese
4 years ago
Reply to  Doggo

The permitted growers supposed to provide there own security. But the county laws are so lacks that the farmers are to busy making millions on the black market to obey by any “rules”. Why get security when you don’t have too? Why sell on the white market and pay taxes when you don’t have too? Why pay your workers a decent wage when you don’t have too? All the county cares about is the money they can leech of the growers. Plain n simple. Pay a veteran to guard your sh!t. They need the work and they know what there doing.

Billy the Kidder
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Billy the Kidder
4 years ago

LOL Yeah, if you need someone to loaf around, burn a few KooRans and terrorize civilians call a “vet” but if you need to proptect your grow, you’d better call Al. Al Qaeda that is.

You're in the Army now and protecting weed growers an how................
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You're in the Army now and protecting weed growers an how................
4 years ago

And then there would be one dear guard. And if you hire two then two dead guards. These robbers are carrying AK-47’s. The last five had five AK-47’s. It’s called a weapons race. What next 4.2 mortars. Can you spell Howitzers of the 155 calibers? The Sheriff is not going to get into a fight with AK-47’s. Much less 106 recoilless.

Dammit Janet
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Dammit Janet
4 years ago
Reply to  Doggo

Agreed. The county takes in a huge amount of cannabis revenue. I’m sure they want that graveytrain to keep running.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Doggo

I heard you could hire state certified armed guards. Right or wrong somebody? Rex?
If so, I’m not in favor of the county having anything to do with my security. They need only act in a backup or mop up situation, so as not to further complicate the general oversight situation we live with now.

M
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M
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Yes there is armed guard security available, but many legal grows are opting out of it until it’s too late

Gun Control is Hittting Your Target
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Gun Control is Hittting Your Target
4 years ago
Reply to  Doggo

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. When you’re waiting the 2 hours for the police to arrive, your only defense is to call upon the office of Smith and Wesson.

Brodie
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Brodie
4 years ago
Reply to  Doggo

I have a business and if I want security I have to hire them myself. Why would they be entitled to free security?.

Fndrbndr
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Fndrbndr
4 years ago

HFS!!
I feel the county BOS needs to ammend the current firearm restrictions associated with cannabis. I know it’s a federal law but so is the the schedule 1 crop they are receiving funds from. A liability suit may be the catalyst to allow protection from these crimes.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Fndrbndr

A person should be able to protect lives and property with his own hands and any legal weapon on his own land. Period.

Government Cheese
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Government Cheese
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I agree 100% guest but when growing permitted cannabis your NOT allowed to have firearms on the premises. Taking on 5 individuals with full auto AKs is a formable task to say the least. Knowing the lay out of your land, guard dogs, Fox holes, and proper escape routes would make the task plausible. That, and a select-fire weapon yourself! O wait…. this is California, only criminals are allowed those, never mind. Good luck out there! Sheriffs are only 2 hours away!

Jen
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Jen
4 years ago

😂all facts

Jmtntop
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Jmtntop
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Agree

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Absolutely Guest!

Knock-knock............. you're dead!!
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Knock-knock............. you're dead!!
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

What the hell is wrong with you people? Murder Mountain will only reflect new areas. You don’t think these thieves wouldn’t shoot your ass in the blink of an eye. They want the weed and anyone(s) with a weapon is dead meat. Shoot to kill then take the booty. Notice how many of these ripoffs have been caught? ZERO!

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Fndrbndr

//”I feel the county BOS needs to ammend the current firearm restrictions associated with cannabis.”//

I KNOW the BOS have no delegated authority whatsoever regarding the use of firearms, OR what to plant, how much, when, and where.

You know it’s a federal law. Will you please post your source?

If you can’t find it in the Constitution, don’t bother.

~meow.

North west
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North west
4 years ago
Reply to  Fndrbndr

Hell yes. I love to read about great big gun battles Give all these growers full or semi automatic weapons. Makes for great reading on your phone

Local grower
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Local grower
4 years ago
Reply to  North west

🖕🏻U need to get a life instead of getting your rocks off laughing about how we have to protect our children on our properties from pirates with no regard for anyone or anything! I wish I could reach thru the phone and slap you for that comment you just made! Shame on you for being that lame of a human!

B
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B
4 years ago

People that are looking fir a quick come up would Rob banks if the money wasn’t locked up, with security and armored trucks. With today’s technology they can see exactly how and where they’re going to rob it, and which route to take to get away.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
4 years ago
Reply to  B

Quick, slow, bash’m. Go……I would of stayed open used as a gimmick “block party”…..

https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/news/assailants-flee-after-truck-hits-cannabis-dispensary-in-baltimore/vi-AAIqPXz

Point is people want the weed…Free the herb!

Doggo
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Doggo
4 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

These robbers are all about the money. Do you really think they go home and get high after they shoot and/or pistol whip folks?
These are criminals, not “free the weed” guys.
Good grief

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
4 years ago
Reply to  Doggo

Free the herb means allowing me to possess firearms. Free the herb means allowing me to bank. Free the herb means allowing me to go about my business as any other business in the United States (i.e., tax deductions). Free the herb means not posting my location so every thief in the US knows where I live. Free the herb means fixing roads or at a minimum following the same road requirements (have you seen AP road) as I for a cannabis permit.

Criminals will always exist and we make it easy pickings. Crime happens in marijuana related businesses all across the US. Allow us to defend ourselves…..Free the Herb!!!

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Yeah! Free the Herb means stop unnecessary and arbitrary Abatements! Free the Herb means that people are not “criminals” for cultivating on thier “private” property! Free the Herb means pass the Blunt! And allow us to defend ourselves! Bless!

Jeff Ott
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Jeff Ott
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

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We went to the chatuea, we cut up so many vegetables
We proceeded to get high, and to my surprise
I had achieved an appetite, all my paranoia dissolved into the sunlight
I was looking for a change
I was looking for a plan
I was looking for some kind of healing,
I was looking for peace of mind
I found peace of mind,
I found healing of body
I found a way to kill the money demon,
I found rest in my soul
Believe me when I found out, what sleep is all about
Believe me I found out what SOUP is all about
Food not Bombs, bikes not bombs, community not bombs, heal the world
Free the Land, free the weed, free our bodies free our minds.

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Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

I agree. Good points.

Government Cheese
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Government Cheese
4 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Freeing the herb would mean free herb! Make it worthless and ALL criminal elements will disappear. Marijuana is a drug. Drugs = war. Defend yourself or become a casualty. Simple math

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

Legallettuce and SmallFry defined “Free the herb” for us up above ^^ here.

“Make it all worthless” is off planet. A man’s labor is his worth… that he decides. Not some arbitrary, self-aggrandizement, self-inflicted for-profit, crony capital commercial corporation’s commissioners.

//”Marijuana is a drug. Drugs=war.”//

We’re gonna have to put a lid on dingo dung, for the day. Please bring value or merit to your comments, Gov’t Cheese :-))

~maybe have another cup of coffee.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
4 years ago

All in a Humboldt day. Enforcement on one side of the county. An armed robbery on the other side. In the middle was politicians politicalizing each other. One day they will cross each other and we will laugh.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

For sure!

John Sheridan
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John Sheridan
4 years ago

They’re supposed to have cameras and their own security it’s all bullshit so they can sell their weed on the black market

Thehillsneedeyes
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Thehillsneedeyes
4 years ago

If all that keeps happening is a bolo then it’s going to become more and more common, maybe some of the tax revenue from the new legal market should go to a stepped up effort on the Sheriff’s behalf during harvest season. There’s obviously enough deputies to be focused on eradication efforts still, should come up with a game plan or it’s going to get ugly-er. Any other large rural agricultural businesses are surely allowed firearms for pest/protection purposes.

Farce
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Farce
4 years ago

It would be great to see the permitted growers protest that their taxes and fees get used for something instead of eradicating their neighbors unpermitted grows. But…I have not seen one single permitted grower do that. Not one! Weird. So…I have to assume that they are fine with their money being used in eradication. Super weird. So…I don’t care what happens to these permitted grows. Why should I? They pay for their neighbors’ eradication and then they sell their permitted weed on the black market. I’d say that that behavior is sleazy and selfish and why should I like them at all? They suck.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Thats a completely bigoted and disgusting thing to say F. [edit]. Oh ya you dont have anything to rip off and you cheer on the thieves. Get a farcing life.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

Farce is not a troll.

~which adds zero creditability to the rest of your comment – uncalled for all the way around.

Farce
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Farce
4 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

Everything I said is true. And it is exactly how I feel about the situation. So how is that “being a troll”? Oh- you think that when somebody says something you don’t like that means they are a troll?! Ha Ha! Despite your personal attack I will say this- I don’t wish violence on anybody, even sell-out permitted growers who pay for their neighbors’ eradication. I don’t want anybody physically attacked and never did. I just don’t care what happens to their crop. It’s not my problem. They- sounds like you- signed up for a program that publishes their location, restricts them from having guns to protect themselves and allows their fees to be used for eradication. Sounds like they- and you- need a private security company! There is one being used locally that hires ex-marines who are armed. Pretty effective! Why do I know more about your business than you do?! I’ll say this again- people got permits out of fear or greed or both. They didn’t care that they were paying fees to eradicate their neighbors. They set themselves up as sitting ducks and then want to complain when they inevitably get ripped off! NOT MY PROBLEM. However…if they pushed to have their eradication fees transferred into security fees I would support that move. Are you going to push for that? Or…are you satisfied with the current state of your fees being used for eradication? Because that’s just disgusting. As is wishing for anybody to be pistol-whipped over expressing their opinion.

Dude
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Dude
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

You don’t know anything. Your on the comment section all day. Feel sorry for you believe it or not. And I mean all day. You comment so much you might need medical attention but your not the only one if that makes you feel better. It sucks because this info is really important to most of us We have to scroll by all you and your weirdo buddies comments

Really?
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Really?
4 years ago
Reply to  Dude

Usually Farce’s comments are interesting and sometimes very informative. On the other hand petty insults reveal a lot about the person who uses them and it’s not pretty.

Government Cheese
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Government Cheese
4 years ago
Reply to  Really?

Wonder if I am a “weirdo troll buddy commenter”. Hmmmm? Humco. Farce and guest I usually agree with. Pretty spot on, and O, Ms Kemp of course, I don’t argue with her.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago

If you have to wonder…

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

~i see your 7:02 claim that Farce is a troll got deleted in your crude attack, assumptions, and order – to “get a farcing life” comment.

A troll is a gad fly. Drops in and out sporadically to stir the soup de jure. As you can see by Dude’s comment, Farce is in here “All day”, “Continually”, so much so, he needs medical attention, in Dude’s opinion.

~still frothing at the mouth @12:55, then 3 mins. later tell self: “enough hate”, but can’t resist a 1:41 finale, certainly does make one wonder.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Makes you wonder what? I’m tired of bigots making trollish remarks about me and large portion of me and my friends and family. If you can’t see how bigoted it is to lump people into a punching bag and take pop shots whenever a permitted farm gets ripped off then we don’t agree on the definition. What gives you want to harp me for it? I honestly want to know. As for insinuating that I’m a troll, if thats what you’re doing, once again we definitely don’t agree on the definition. You can look it up and it has nothing to do with your frequency of commenting.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

I guess you think it’s cool to cheer on the “permitted farm” haters. I guess you either dont understand bigotry and the division it causes or are bigoted yourself against your “permitted” neighbors. If there is another reason for your attacks on me and your support for an obviously bigoted person I’d appreciate hearing it.

joe hubcap stealer
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joe hubcap stealer
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Cause the boyz in the hood
are always hard.
come talkn’ that trash
and we’ll pull your card
knowin’ nuthing in life
but to be legit
don’t quote me boy
I ain’t said shit

Sinbad of Sohum
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Sinbad of Sohum
4 years ago
Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

You are the one cheering on the pistol whipping thieves that are robbing permitted farms. I think it’s being a troll to comment about how lame permitted farmers are and how you don’t care what happens on their grows when the article you are commenting on is about permitted farmers being violently robbed. It is bigoted to attack a group of people with foolish stereotypes. It’s obvious you hate permitted growers yet in your life I’m sure you pretend to be friends with them. Stop being a hater and growup.

Since you know so much more about my business than I do can you share a link to backup your claim that our permit fees are financing raids on my umpermitted friends ,family and neighbors please? If its true I will do whatever I can to get them to realocate the funds. There are many reasons people got permitted. Obviously the government sucks and nobody is happy about how they did things.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

I’m very upset at how the government spends our tax money but I’m not going to start personally attacking tax payers for what their representatives foolishly spend the money on. Enough with the hate.

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
4 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

It’s obvious you are very sensitive. That usually means someone is saying something true about you.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

What you’re another”permitted” farm hater. Lot of you on here I see. Yes I am a sensitive person and take offense to people hating on my community. How do you like bigotry towards your community? Does it make you sensitive?

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
4 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

You and your friends have ruined this county. Please take your permit and leave.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago

Me and my friends have been here our whole lives. I haven’t ruined anything. You haters should leave. How have i ruined the county? As i said before you bigoted haters have nothing real or intelligent to say. Childish insults is all you can muster.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
4 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

Some of us are three generations. Please leave our county. You will not survive the next phase of legalization anyway.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago

There’s 4 generations of my family here dude. As if it matters. I’m not going anywhere. Keep dreaming. I’ll keep surviving. My mother in law is 80% native and my father in law is 40%. And you wanna act like you have more claim to be here? Lol dream on we’re not leaving.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago

“3generations…
our county…”
Good one man I’m still laughing!

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

It is VERY true that the Abatements, and irradication efforts are in DIRECT relation to the permit fees that has been stated several times in several articles posted on RHBB…. MAYBE.. if YOU LF …and Dude paid attention to what was ACTUALLY going down ya’ll would know that.. Farce is NOT a troll. Most of his comments are fairly civil and spot on!
I agree with Farce, on most aspects, and he lays it out fairly well and mostly civil. I don’t want to see ANYONE get Home Invaded or pistil wipped.. but I do have to say, that A lot of these LARGER permited farms, in the middle of nowhere, are pretty dumb. They are very large, involving A LARGE amount of people to work them, with not enough security… Not like Anyone deserves to get robbed, but, seriously some of these big permited farms, are kinda asking for it! Just by the large amount of traffic in and out of these places sometimes… But Hey, it’s LEGAL right.. Nothing to worry about Now!

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

Ya and a lot af them are small mom and pops farms with kids and a homestead. I’m not stoked on the big farms either. Its bigotry plain and simple to lump all “permitted” farmers into a punching bag and say they’re stupid and deserve to get ripped off. I’m barely middle class and I work over 3000 hrs a year and you wanna hate on us because we’re all “rich greedy” growers. Go ahead and cheer on bigotry but at least look up the definition so you can understand it’s divisive nature. Demonizing”permitted”growers is bigotry and immature.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

Post a link to back up your claim as I said before. The abatement program more than pays for itself. The farm raids have been happening my whole life, they’re always going to find a way to pay for them. Whether it’s your tax dollars or mine. Do you support everything your taxes go to?

Seems like I’m getting attacked from multiple people for taking a big offence to bigotry aimed at me and a big portion of my friends, family and community. Hopefully you have something intelligent to respond with?

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

Exuse me Mr/Mrs. LF You throwing around that stupid Bigoted Word likes it’s water.. makes you sound like a “bigot”..so there’s that.. Your just as Guilty here, lumping every OG comentor here together. Obviously your oblivious to what I said, I don’t think anyone deserves to get “Robed”… Permited or Clandestine, All work diligently for thier livelihoods.. Just remember HOT SAUCE, U PAY TO SEND VOILENT EXTORTIONISTS THIEVES WITH BADGES TO OUR HUMBLE HOMES.. Seems like Every Day now! And your OK wit dat? You can’t reflect why people on the other side might be Angry ‘bout this?? PLLLEASE! Cool your Cucumbers, ‘cause u sound simply JADED!

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

You’re the bigoted hater dude. I got no hate for anybody lest they try to hate on me. There isn’t the other side to me. I have friends and family with and without permits. You and all the other divisive haters can engage in bigotry all you want and I’ll call you on it every time. By the way it’s cowardly to be a bigot on a comment section. Try saying your insulting drivvle to peoples faces and see how far you get. I stand behind everything I say and would say it to anyones face.

W
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W
4 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

Then why dont you use your real name now?

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

I was really hoping for an intelligent response. You know like as in you actually comprehended what you were responding to.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

So, Here’s Kym’s bias for permitiees and insults showing again? How is throwing Bigot at everyone NOT a personal Attack?
Yeah, your commentary reaks of Hatred, bigotry and STRAIGHT LOWNESS!… but Hate Harder..If u must… Your just looking for excuses to prop yourself from your Morally Bankrupt permit scheme and make excuses for your self why your not responsible… and that is just more disgraceful and conceited. And morally Bankrupt..So yeah, continue to look like a jerk, REALLY NICE.. My response was way way more intelligent then your kindergarten semantics, but have fun being pissed off some more..

And honestly the only thing I hear from your comments, is like straight Drool.. like literally, you might want to grab a bib or something because it’s is straight SLOBBER!

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

Just to set the record clear one more time before LF decided to throw a hot mess around…I don’t like it that “permited” or any Farms get robbed, I am not trying to hate or blame on you or any victim here.. I don’t HATE people or Farmers that are permited.. so stop with that bull… I hate the fuckin Permits.. There are bad players on both sides of the spectrum.. Your the one castin straight Hate LF.. I ain’t tryin to hate on you for your permit, I am hating your Asshat comments…

And btw, honestly if you ever were to call me a “Bigot to my face” I would straight tell you to STFU like I am now..

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

You could at least try to engage in intelligent debate. You know instead of hurling childish insults you could answer my questions and make questions of your own. A back and forth of ideas. Telling somebody they are being a bigot is my attempt to educate not insult.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

Yeah, I don’t need your “education” on Bigotry… And it’s Not my fault if the simple information I and others have presented to you is not noted.. that would be a lack of intellectual debate on your end not others.. your continuation of the ridiculous Ad Hommin slanter you’re slinging is straight Drool..
If you drop Bullshit don’t be suprised when others tell you It Stinks!

The simple truth stands.. there is absolutely no way the county could afford all these HUGE multi adgency, unfiscually responible, overtime heavy raids without the permit fees! All who signed into these permits got straight robbed and extorted, By the County Cartel! If people didn’t rush to sign into these permits, we ALL would have had a greater bargaining chip to make things better for EVERYONE!
As it is now, they issue HUGE Agregeous mountain top removal scenes while handcuffing long time small Elders in thier Yards! The permitees went skipping along on thier marry way and left the OG’s to burn.. And you CANT SEEM to fashion Why some people might be irate? You wanna link, yeah, the County doesn’t exactly have a link to “This is how we Screwed you”.. From the beginning it was very clear where the money for these raids were to come from.. And yeah, I do tell TAX Payers that where thier money goes is unethical.. And people SHOULD protest what the Gov uses thier TAX dollars for.. Haven’t you ever Heard of the NOT IN MY NAME movements?

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Farce,

~i know you don’t need any support in this instant matter, i just want to say; you tell it like it is, don’t hold any punches, and end w/a thought towards betterment.

Thanks.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

“Frothing at the mouth” really…? How’d you know?

Anyways let’s put insults aside and try to understand each other.

My family and I are multigenerational homesteaders and ganja farmers. Many in our community now have permits and many don’t. I take it very personally when our community is attacked by ripoffs with guns and I think that it is sick that people then do a double tap attack by going on threads about the robberies and spread hateful and bigoted misinformation about them.

What don’t you get about that and why do you say that an obviously bigoted person tells it like it is? I’m trying to understand your opinion because by your remarks i have read in the past I had a completely different impression than I now have.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~i don’t know what i can add that hasn’t been said, and is obvious. Breaking it down .. you’re either part of the solution, or you support the evil.

Permits and licenses are assKing permission to exercise a right & is NOT part of the solution. I don’t stray from that –past, present or future.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

So you believe permit holders bad/ nonpermit holders good.

So your take is that bigots who come on here and insult permit holders with divisive and misinformed attacks are part of the solution and permit holders are supporting evil?

Lifes not that black and white. I wish it was.

What’s your solution to someone like me with a large family to feed and a farm to run? I’m part of the evil for growing organic ganja and paying the man for his approval? I guess you dont have a drivers license or pay any taxes.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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/”So you believe permit holders bad/ nonpermit holders good. “/

~~~it’s not good v bad. It’s right v. wrong. Non lateral (pun intended)

/”I guess you dont have a drivers license or pay any taxes.”/

Correct. Well, Meas. Z resale, i do pay at the checkout stands.

~if you’re not living on the edge, you’re taking up too much space. Back in Kansas, on the land, in the Republic, you may have noticed the screen return to black and white from the Wonderful Colorful Wor(l)d of Oz.

If it doesn’t stem from the written on hemp paper, black on white, Constitution, it has no foundation.

I didn’t write the rules.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
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Them evil

Us good

Sigh… This divisiveness leads to nothing good.

Grow up

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

Grow Up.. LF..and Grow a Pair..

W
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W
4 years ago
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You do realize it’s the government’s rules/regulations fault for permitted grows being ripped off. The gov has basically put a target on your farms. The ripoffs know you cant protect yourself and you must rely on the gov to protect you.
How has that worked out in the past and most recently?

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
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I don’t use my name on here to protect my family and I from extremist bigots. However I’ll meet up with anyone on this thread for a face to face anytime. You wanna meet up?

How come you don’t post your name on here W?

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
4 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

I’m your huckleberry.

Tough talk is talk.

Put up your real name so we can exchange with candor.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
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I’ll give you my name face to face where we can speak with candor. You wanna meet? When and where?

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
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I can protect myself as well as anybody willing. And no I’m not a gov lover at all. I don’t rely on anybody else to protect my farm. These raids have been happening my whole life. Oh because the powers that be want our community divided they now say permitees make these raids possible. Whereve you been the last 40 years when they were raiding farms? You think this started with the permit fees? What a joke dude you draank the kool aid!

Farce
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Farce
4 years ago
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Hey Now- It’s me…the BIGOT lol! So anybody can correct me if I’m wrong but I heard which place this is that got ripped off…Well, that property got ripped off a few years ago too. Lots of gunshot from the road, so the “farmers” split and left their dogs behind. When they got back their dogs had been shot and all their weed taken. So…they put that place on the market. Classic. New people- from out of the area- bought it and thought they’d do a big “legalized” blown-up grow. How they got the county permit- being on Pine Creek right in the middle of Operation Yurok country but also right against the Hoopa Res- makes ya think that maybe the county is just selling whatever they can. A water study and a bunch of fees and they were granted their permission slip. Now we -who have been around the block- know that area as “dangerous” and “very iffy”. The REAL wild west, not what some hippies imagine is the “wild west at Simon Legrees”. Has been for a long time. I was warned of this area in ’85 when we though about it. Not really any law enforcement out there ha ha! Many Hoopa and Yurok consider their ancestral tribal lands to spread farther than their res boundaries and some of them will enter what white people consider “private property” to take what they like. That’s just how it is out there. I don’t blame them too much! Some of those deep locals are smoking and shooting meth and can get very dangerously wild in their entries and takings. They are well-armed. But these new landowners did not know, obviously. Naive, permit-purchasing and compliant …suckers blowing up a million dollar crop in an impoverished area full of resentful, heavily-armed natives who might consider that land as actually being stolen from them- and doing it without security or backup!! I’m glad they weren’t killed. But it’s not up to the rest of us to care about carpet-bagging outsiders who arrive here to make huge profits and foolishly plant themselves directly in the path of a ripoff-waiting-to-happen. And yes- part of their permit fees were added to a fund used to eradicate others. That’s the god-honest truth. So why defend these guys?! They worked hard and they lost. Toughen up, buttercup! Nearly everybody I know has had a year like that- but mostly from the law. Maybe not greenrusher mega-growers who then bought permission slips. I know a few of those…came from money, jumped into the game at a very advanced level, never felt a loss. And they are fine with the present scene where the rich get richer and small people get shafted. Why should I like such people? Why?…signed, the big fat mean old bigot

Farce
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Farce
4 years ago
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Local Farmer- I just reread some of this thread. Maybe I missed some stuff? I apologize to everybody if I said something in favor of anybody getting pistol-whipped. Yes- I have a bias against compliancy and permit people. But nobody deserves to get pistol-whipped or beaten or shot. Let me make that clear. My frustration with the situation of haves and have-nots (permission slips) and the funding of eradication raids can make me …angry, let’s say. So if I got fired up and slipped into saying something like “they deserve to get beaten” or “they deserve to get ripped” please let me apologize. I think sometimes people foolishly set themselves up to get ripped and I find it hard to have sympathy for that. But nobody “deserves” it. I’m sorry if you’re struggling on the other side. I hope you can find some of this gusto to make a formal complaint about permit fees being used for eradication and instead ask they be used for more security for the fee payers. We could be back on the same side of that. It’s all I’ve ever asked of permit people- to stand up for us little guys. Peace for you and yours in this harvest season.

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
4 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

People stealing from other people didn’t start with “Legal”.
“Legal” made stealing “legal”.

“Legal” local farmers are paying to be protected by the enforcers of law. You “legalites” upset the uneasy peace by attacking our way of life.

You sound so high and mighty, you’re only “legal”.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
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“Our way of life”. No dude you are the high and mighty who drank the dividers kool aid. I’m from here. It’s my way of life here as well. Difference is you’re hating on me for having a permit. I don’t have any problem with growers who treat their workers and land respectfully. Doesn’t matter to me if you’re permitted or not. Plenty of friends and family who make their own decisions. I’m not bigoted against any groups of people. You are. I’ll meet you anytime “huckleberry”.

NoLongerHumboldt
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NoLongerHumboldt
4 years ago
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You broke the law for years, and now hide behind legality and have paid for and funded the abatement program. The reason the county is going so hard with abatements is because they have an incentive to enforce their cannabis codes to make the permitted folks feel better about signing up to be extorted. Do you live under a rock? The economy in humboldt is in serious turmoil and there is a mass exodus of small farmers out of the area. My 996 square foot grow was abated this summer and I had to move to Oregon. If you are a multi generational farmer then why didnt you stay true to your outlaw roots? You turned on your community members to become permitted and paid into the abatement program. Other counties that dont have commercial cannabis ordinances and permitting programs like Nevada county and Eldorado dont have any abatements. Why cant you just admit that the county and california as a whole threw the MAJORITY of small growers under the bus and is only interested is backing big business. Maybe alot of cannabis farmers are anti government and value sovereignty instead of corruption. If I had millions of dollars I would of still never gone permitted as I dont like working with corrupt low life government officials that do nothing but tax the people and make life difficult. If people weren’t so greedy in Humboldt and wanted to seentheir neighbors do good then nobody would of paid for a permit people would of also co-opted together to keep the price high instead of just planting more and over producing. Theirs power in numbers and they couldnt get everyone but now they can and will. Small and big

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago

I’m sorry you got abated. I hate the abatement program and am sickened by cops busting people for environmentally sound grows. I’m not happy with our county or state.

I’m not your enemy because I have my permit. Four of my kids were born at my farm. We are homesteaders. Most of my neighbors wete getting permitted and advised me to do the same or I’d get abated. I managed/barely to scrape through the process because I’m not a “big rich grower”. All the neighbors who didn’t get their permits got abated. It sucks. You wanna judge me for doing what I do to raise my family and keep from losing my farm? Go ahead haters gonna hate.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~i bet if you leave out divisive words, like “bigot” and “hate”, you would be more palatable in here.

I can understand a husband and father providing for his family -extended, and community- to the best of his ability. (i’m down for, w/farmers – gotta add, i’m sickened that the largest Grange in Humboldt, the Van Duzen River Grange, no longer is).

The whole public theater abatement scene, or what is oh-so-casually referred to as ‘abatement’ in modern times, is such a hoax. Allow me to re-mind you/me/us/We, of the Bill of Attainder clause from ye ol Glory Days: the Supreme Law of the Land. How come i get a feeling (?) that, whenever i type that (land juris), it doesn’t transfer as steadfast, as foundation, as base, as . . . . EVERYTHING ELSE IS fraud, deceit and illusion.

Anyway, and beginning at this now time beginning:

A sovereign is: .. Repeat after me; (TY Gene/Fortuna Constitution class), someone who does no harm to, or trespass on another man’s property, and honors his contracts.

Bill of Attainder (Bills of pain and penalties)- would be Traffic citations, for one. Abatement citations, for two. . . by mail (mail fraud), in a public venue, office, Press Release, Goo-Ghoul Earth, and/or combination of all five, shocks the conscience.

Black’s Law Dictionary 10th Edition defines a Bill of Attainder as: “A special legislative act prescribing punishment, without a trial, for a specific person or group.”

Any interference with the exercise of a right without a trial by jury is a Bill of Attainder.

Bill of Attainder is a law that sentences one or more of We, the People, without due process.

Bills of Attainder are a violation of Law under Article I Section 9 in the California Constitution and Article I Section 9 and 10 of the Federal Constitution.

The united States for America is a Republic w/rule by Constitutional Law.

Our State flag reads: CALIFORNIA REPUBLIC.

The unfortunate all-encompassing-health-freedoms-denial and full-force-of-Legal-power-grab is pulling the Emerald Triangle apart at the seams.

Not sure how society got to a point they can’t see right from wrong. The real criminals are wearing suits, costumes, and robes.

YOU, Local farmer, could step up to the plate and Publicly RRR – remove, rescind, revoke your signature b/c you were under threat, duress, & coercion by Legally blind, mentally incompetent fact witnesses that are masquerading as Public Servants. When in fact they are DDDT – Dangerous, Disingenuous, Domestic Terrorists. RRR your contract w/Satanic forces… glide on the Peace Train… and leave a family heirloom legacy. I’ll hold your hand the whole way thru. Not to brag, but, “What you need, baby i got it” (documents recorded into the public records). If not you, who? If not now, when?

~Doc Holiday

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Not my mo to be palatable on here. I’m fine with being attacked by multiple people at a time who know almost nothing about me. I’m pretty sure my message gets through in my crude way. I’m not perfect but I’m also not searching for tips from people who are judging me for having a permit, on how to conduct myself. Thanks anyways though.

Geuur
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Geuur
4 years ago

How about growing something besides weed? And I know that a lot of people are doing it.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
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How about growing weed? It is a wonderful plant!🌼🤙

M. Gonzalez
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M. Gonzalez
4 years ago

Same methods used by [edit] in October of 2017. My understanding is that the 2017 robbery is still a very active investigation with charges pending. Maybe today’s robbery will act as an incentive for the HCSO and the district attorney’s office to take action.
Farmers need to understand that, at best, the HCSO sees farm security as the responsibility of the farmer. At worst, they see a situation like this as one problem solving another.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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//”Maybe today’s robbery will act as an incentive for the HCSO and the district attorney’s office to take action.”//

~laugh of the day (yesterday)

Ice
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Ice
4 years ago

Isn’t that vehicle with trailer the same as one of the ones from the ripoff near Blocksburg the other day? The one with rental trucks as well?

Glow In The Dark Humdum
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Glow In The Dark Humdum
4 years ago
Reply to  Ice

That’s what I thought also…

Maybe vigilante types are doing God’s work by getting those drugs off the streets?

Make a great Hollywood plot, angry Clint Eastwood clones sick of weed and hippy stuff, break into these places and do what needed to happen since day one.

All the weed and grower property is thrown in a river, followed by bar fights and hair cuts.

At the end of the movie Clint spares Golden Pitbull who lives out his life next to a cooler of beer on Clint’s front porch as the FBI shows up with the clue that ties it all together, but gives it to Clint and walks away out of respect.

That’s America right there!

Cannabis Is Legal
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Cannabis Is Legal
4 years ago

Cannabis is legal.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

All things legal are fraud.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

test #9

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
4 years ago

Being legal now your grow site is listed. Google Earth…badda bing. I keep wondering when some huge vertical privacy issues are going to evolve out of the ability to see everything. People have walls, private property so they can eh hem… be PRIVATE! Google is a peeping tom on a grandious scale. Theives or the county all be casing your place from above. How many plants, homes, roads, cars (=persons on site) . A HUGE safety issue you can not correct nor priorly protect yourself from. Is it ultimately a liability that you cannot protect yourself from this vertical type of trespassing? Chew on that tasty nugget a minute!

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

//” Is it ultimately a liability that you cannot protect yourself from this vertical type of trespassing?”//

It falls under the “takings clause” of the Fifth Article in Amendment of the Bill of Rights — Congress assembled.

Monterey v. Del Monte Dunes, 526 U.S.__, 143 L Ed 2d 882, 119 S.Ct.___ (1999): [T]he District Court’s jury instructions directed the jury that (1) it should find for the landowner if the jury found that (a) the landowner had been denied all economically viable use of its property, or (b) the city’s decision did not substantially advance a legitimate public purpose (the jury awarded the landowner $8 million for the takings’ and $1.45 million for the city’s unlawful acts -no just compensation or providing an adequate post deprivation remedy for the loss). The County is liable for any city employee violating the takings clause of the Fifth Amendment. The property owner owns all bundle of rights that come with his Deed, as he bought it ‘as is’ and nobody can convert, alter, change or amend his deed except him. The law forbids the City or County to amend any deed, steal any deed, restrict its use, or to use deceit, extortion, fear, and threats to get the owner to amend it by restricting his ownership and use of livestock, property, or his land. Post-deprivation loss also attaches to the sale of any agriculture or other commodity in interstate OR intrastate commerce, which sales were diminished by the takings/restriction. This includes anything the landowner would buy for his use and enjoyment of his property; building materials, landscaping/gardening supplies, animal feed, livestock, pets, vehicles, etc. Damages for the takings without just compensation and for the extortion will be decided by a jury pursuant to the Seventh Amendment.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~i have 18 pages of this stuff.

Lucas v. South Carolina Coastal Council, 505 U.S. 1003, 120 L.Ed.2d 798: There are a number of non-economic interests in land, such as interest in excluding strangers from one’s land, the impairment of which will invite exceedingly close scrutiny under takings clause (5th Amend.), if the protection against physical appropriations of private property was to be meaningfully enforced, the government’s power to redefine the range of interests included in the ownership of property was necessarily constrained by constitutional limits If, instead, the uses of private property were subject to unbridled, uncompensated qualification under the police power, the natural tendency of human nature [would be] to extend the qualification more and more until at last private property disappeared. These considerations gave birth to the oft cited maxim that, “While property may be regulated to a certain extent, if regulation goes too far it will be recognized as a taking”. Where permanent physical occupation of land is concerned, we have refused to allow the government to decree it anew without compensation no matter how weighty the asserted public interests involved —Unless just compensation is offered, the city or county is committing fraud, theft, racketeering and terrorism if it wants to exert ‘acts of ownership or control’ private property and livestock ownership rights. It is illegal to impose public policy upon private land; to do so constitute a “taking” for which the City and County are liable for compensating the owner for his loss, no matter how small the intrusion.

"Tegridy Farms"
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"Tegridy Farms"
4 years ago

Privacy on your own property, nope, that ship sailed years ago.

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
4 years ago

Im not a litigious person but I would love to challenge google or other satellite service in court on the grounds of privacy. Has it been done? Maybe my ranch got robbed when I wasn’t home because of images on google earth. It seems like a good case and not much public interest argument on the other side.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

Dick’s Sporting Goods destroys $7.4 million worth of guns
https://www.nexusnewsfeed.com/article/geopolitics/dick-s-sporting-goods-destroys-7-4-million-worth-of-guns/
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The Dick Act of 1902 cannot be repealed; to do so would violate bills of attainder and ex post facto laws which would be yet another gross violation of the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The President of the United States has zero authority without violating the Constitution to call the National Guard to serve outside of their State borders.

The National Guard Militia can only be required by the National Government for limited purposes specified in the Constitution (to uphold the laws of the Union; to suppress insurrection and repel invasion). These are the only purposes for which the General Government can call upon the National Guard.

Robbery is going to happen
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Robbery is going to happen
4 years ago

No one said Anything about the “Rez” in Hoopa dumb*as!!! They only gave some direction for the folks who live in other parts of the county!!!
I laughed so hard when people say ” it’s time for the HCSO should step up, or the DA’S office should do something ” ARE YOU FN’ING KIDDING ME? Do you Not Realize, there isn’t enough officers in the county!!! At least Not for the rural areas!!! The DA is a joke 🤔 Good luck getting anything done !!!
As far as armed security, ya right!!! Getting paid around $15.00 a hour ? Why ? Nobody cares about “Your ” legal farm… NOBODY!!! I for one would laugh at the “employment agencies ” for even asking someone who has a Concealed Carry… Those agencies are a RIP off , collecting extra money from the farmers ( maybe a extra $10) on top of the wages !!
Dark Staffing, Emerald Employment hire young kids, no one who has any experience. So with that being said 🖕

Please allow us to defend ourselves
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Please allow us to defend ourselves
4 years ago

I strongly believe the cops know the names of the perps and that it’s the same crew that did an almost exactly executed heist in the same neighborhood two years ago.

What will it take for action from the police? Someone getting killed? No I don’t think so.

So to summarize: no you can’t have a gun at your grow, yes you can hire armed security, and no the cops dont really want to deal with this shit show.

And this is going to get worse.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago

This is becoming a little too common.

A) This is a ploy to move weed off the books to sell on the open market and, if insured, get a double payout.

Or

B) The farm operators are imbeciles and have no inkling of the concept of security.

fearless leader
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fearless leader
4 years ago
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C) easy pickins. why the heck wouldn’tya

gold $23,000/lb, level of difficulty is very high

tomatoes $4/lb, level of difficulty easy but not worth the effort

methamphetamine $1500/lb, level of difficulty is high, not easy to fence

weed $500/lb, level of difficulty is nil, easy to fence

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago

In that case B=C

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Which is still B. If it is a gang, they are hitting soft targets. They aren’t looking for a fight; they are looking for low hanging fruit,

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Sorry, you’re right, ‘imbecile’ was an unnecessarily strong term. Banks have security in place because they know they have something of value. The security, besides cameras, is mitigated risk. The money taken in a bank robbery is typically from the till and is a drop in the bucket. Very rarely is a bank robbery from the vault.

For anyone who has lived in the sticks, we know that law enforcement is not something to rely on. To have a secure home or business requires personal responsibility for that security.

So, B) The farm operators failed to take into account security and steps to mitigating loss in case of armed intrusion.

Government Cheese
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Government Cheese
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Your sitting on millions of dollars in cash and drugs that can easily be converted to more cash on an open black market. Yes, you are ignorant if you don’t take security as one of your foremost #1 priorities. Google earth to google maps, “you have arrived at your destination!”

fearless leader
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fearless leader
4 years ago

“you have arrived at your destination. Put on your masks!!!”

Pissed off Marine
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Pissed off Marine
4 years ago

If you are in a war zone, expect to get shot at. I think that the legal growers are aware what they are into. If you are going to do your legal grow, do what you need to to secure your area. If you don’t, its no surprise that every low life SOB is going to find where you are and try to take you shit. Why ?? It is because they are too lazy to get out and work hard to make a living. Don’t think that anyone is going to protect you but yourself. It is a fact. So get ready to protect what is yours if you want to keep it. Watch and see if ( and this is very sad but real and so very scary ) some POS is going to use children as a bargaining chip, which will make the death penalty a necessity. Please be safe and protect your family everyone. God Bless

bear
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bear
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

maybe we should start blaming the changes and the greed behind them wrecking our commiunities… 215 was chill…

disallusioned
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4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

How long before the robbers end up facing heavily armed growers? The wild west keeps getting wilder.

NoQuarterGiven
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NoQuarterGiven
4 years ago
Reply to  disallusioned

Who says they haven’t already, and nobody reported anything? The whole not enough sheriffs deal works both ways.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

~flummoxed.

~however, i don’t buy into “our [so-called] law enforcement force is severely depleted.”

Convoys of up to 30, some unmarked, on a daily basis, for months on end, from one end of the Triangle to the other, is Not what i would remotely describe as “severely depleted.”

Is there something, other than Sheriff slash Coroner Billy, that makes you believe this, Kym?

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Well, that’s what i don’t get. On transparentcalifornia (i’m not going to put the link), for 2018, there were nearly 200 officers, so i don’t see how only four could be on duty – i mean, in the full-meaning of their Oath as a public servant.

Extra-bad management? It’s always bad management that brings it crashing down -don’t cha know?

Oh and, are the Deputies the only ones armed? Are the F&W’s, the CalFires? the State Water Agency? idk – the “Unmarked”? the National Guard? Who knows? Maybe ol John Ford is packin’. Or, Estelle. Or, Rex, the Truck Parade do-gooder.

Gueet
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Gueet
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Looks like there are 121 patrol officers. https://humboldtgov.org/187/Sheriffs-Office

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Gueet

~thanks, Guest.

I got to tired to re-check.

Nevertheless, 4 out of 121. Really?

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Maybe the abatement program your permits are funding is having unintended consequences. Sort of an eye for an eye?

2s4u
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2s4u
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Agreed. The ganja industry is laden with paranoia of theft. Cameras every where and even on the trimmers at most scenes ive been to. Night gaurds on meth. Monster attack dogs. The community watch members who could tell you how many trimmers and which countries they come from on your farm. All by constantly watching you with the fear you may be financially one upping them. The bigger the grow the more the paranoia.
Now the legal farms may be a bit out of touch with that paranoia. Also there are trends of legal farms being robbed based on the thinking that they have nothing to fear as the police are backing them.
The main point here is that its way too easy to claim or caus a theft and then sell it on the black market. Wheres the accountabilty? The police are already over burdened by investigations so why not install that camera system and hire that security gaurd. It’s ultimately a liability to the communities saftey.

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
4 years ago
Reply to  2s4u

Yes the scene is so stupid now. Who wants to live in fear of having you family pistol whipped and robbed? Is money worth it? It’s something we need to start asking. At least as we start getting older, and I know I have been in this mess for too long. Too much stress if you ask me, it’s time to explore other parts of life here in Humbco.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

Go explore whatever you want. “The scene” you say is so lame is a lot of peoples multigenerational culture. I love it and will protect my families way of life. It’s not just a “scene” unless you were just there for money in which case go explore. Why haters even wanna think so much about our culture confuses me.

2s4u
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2s4u
4 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

You self righteous types are something else. You’d sell out to any industry which would pay you more. Please feel free to spare the thread of your bs.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

“Assault style rifles and the like, built only for mass killing and stupid little dick guys to feel tough- those should be outlawed for sure.” Don’t you think one of those evil black rifles would effective, in the right hands, to help protect a farm?

https://kymkemp.com/2019/10/11/new-laws-critical-to-closing-loopholes-in-gun-laws-says-california-attorney-generals-office/#comment-870417

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Absolutely! And I agree wholeheartedly that of course we should be able to protect ourselves with any firearm we choose.

Local farmer
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Local farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

I hope you don’t think you’re quoting me because I never said anything remotely close to that. I support the second amendment to the constitution.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

It’s willow creeker’s quote. The reply is to him as well. It’s just how comments are ‘nested’ on Kym’s site.

Local farmer
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4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Thank you for the clarification! No surprise that he would throw a childish insult at a large group of people he doesn’t know or understand. Basically the definition of bigotry.

Kalashnikov SV-18 sniper 50 cal.
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Kalashnikov SV-18 sniper 50 cal.
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Not when the weapons are increasing in deadliness. Assault rifles will not work when the bad guys use weapons that are much more deadly that your assault rifles. These are people who have the money to buy the methods to get what they want. Read about what happened in South America and Mexico. The cartel could not be stopped. It took an entire Country to find the top guy and now his brother is continuing his brother’s cartel. Why do you think your idea of arming growers would work against better armed thieves. AR-15’s will only get you and your families and workers a trip to the morgue.

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Ullr Rover
4 years ago

You’re not offering any information. Two or three people who know how to work as a team and know their weapons, be it AR15 or 30-30 lever action or longbow, can take on twice as many people armed who don’t know their weapons and can’t work as a team… it doesn’t matter if they’re lugging around a Barret .50, an M60 or a tank… well the tank would offer a challenge in the short term.

Money equals GREED.................................
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Money equals GREED.................................
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

There is strength in NUMBERS!! Two or three guys with assault rifles will not and cannot protect a grow and processing site. Even if the site is built like a Fort Knox it takes an army to protect the weed and the trucks that haul their product to market. Drugs equals Money. Big money!! Retail markets are next when the stores become large enough to make breaking in or daylight robberies worth the risk. Weed stores will be like banks. Trucks full of weed on highways will be robbed. Money’s the motivation. This will only get bigger and badder. And when the big growers provide more security the little guys will become the target. And there is no protecting them. What next Brinks Armored trucks? The wanna be’s Pablo Escobar’s and El Chapo Guzman’s are coming to WEED Country. Trying to stop or control them is out of reach for local law enforcement. There isn’t enough tax money in the State of California to secure the growers. Putting weapons in grower’s hands will only make Humboldt County a war zone. By the time the Sheriff deputies arrive they better have the coroner with them.

Ullr Rover
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4 years ago

I doubt it. These are punks wannabe thugs. A couple corpses and they’ll realize it’s not worth dying for some weed…. especially as its value continues to wane.

With regards to armed protection, it doesn’t take an army. It takes a few well trained people. The wannabe thugs don’t have any training except dealing with other wannabe thugs.

guest thug
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guest thug
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

You obviously don’t know shit about thuglife.

THUG LIFE

I gotta get that bag
It’s a thug life, it’s a thug life
I gotta get that bag (sha-na-na-na-na-sha-ah)
It’s a thug life (la-da-da-da)
It’s a thug life (it’s a, oh-uh-oh)
Ooh-ah
Sha-na-na-na-na-sha-ah
La-da-da-da
It’s a— oh-uh-oh
Ooh-ah
Tried to treat a man like baby
Feel the teeth sink in like rabies
Boy, you know you don’t look fly
Dem gold chains turn your neck green, bye
It’s different, reconciling with skeletons, I ain’t know I possessed
I sought perfection out in ways I no longer accept
I understand what I neglected, times when I obsessed
I’m ready to confess, this fate is hard ’til I address
The biggest threat I’m up against is who I face in my reflection
Depression still uninvited, guess I’m always accepted
Can help but meet the feeling with the familiar embrace
But I know that it will kill me if I give in to my brain
I see the shadows inside, they touch me, tall with no eyes
They put my head in the water and I saw beautiful London
The sun reflecting off the corals, colors I can’t describe
To make the darkness divine
Sha-na-na-na-na-sha-ah
La-da-da-da
It’s a, oh-uh-oh
Ooh-ah
Sha-na-na-na-na-sha-ah
La-da-da-da
It’s a
Ooh-ah
Sha-na-na-na-na-sha-ah

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Yab-a-tab-a-do
4 years ago
Reply to  guest thug

deet-da-dee…………………….

Ambush is better than a stand off.
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4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

You are writing about grower’s corpses, right? At 3 am in the morning I think the growers would be sleeping. Five guys with AK 47’s would take out ten growers with AR-15’s. I have personally witnessed what an AK-47’s can do to a squad carrying M-16’s. You, I doubt, can say that.

Ullr Rover
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4 years ago

There is nothing magical about the ballistics from an AK. It’s a turd lobber much like a 308.

As for ambush: to be ambushed in your own castle means you don’t know shit about security.

http://www.military-today.com/firearms/m16_vs_ak47.htm

nads r us
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nads r us
4 years ago
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C) damn near free money if ya got the nads for it.

JustWantToHeartheEndoftheStory
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JustWantToHeartheEndoftheStory
4 years ago

“Took passports” Hmm, are the robbery victims identities going to be sold to new arrivals?

guest
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guest
4 years ago

Stealing passports makes no sense. Not much use these days with all of the security in place. Just a worthless loose end.

Government Cheese
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Government Cheese
4 years ago
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Bullcrap. Passports and Identification numbers go for top dollar on the dark web.

Billy the Kidder
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Billy the Kidder
4 years ago

there is no such thing as a “dark’ web. That shit is owned by the NSA. The same NSA that developed “The Onion Router”. That shit wasn’t set up by “free speech” advocates for hippies to sell drugs on. It was set up by the US intelligence agencies to wage information warfare.

JustWantToHeartheEndoftheStory
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JustWantToHeartheEndoftheStory
4 years ago
Reply to  guest

Not much use? Look at an I-9 form. Passport is numero uno when it comes to identification. “all of the security in place”? Don’t get out much, do you.

guest
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4 years ago

Don’t believe everything you read on 8chan. Assuming these are foreign passports they are worthless in the US. An I9 form? Illegal workers don’t need a fake passport to bullshit an I9. Any good HR department can doctor up I9 creds with a cheap photocopier.

Try and modify the picture in a recently issued passport, like the last 12 years. Anyone who tries to fuck with or use a modified passport is a complete idiot. 20 years ago it was easy to separate the pages and change the picture. Try it now and you’ll destroy hologram…..worthless. If the passport gets scanned there is a chip embedded in the passport with a copy of the picture. If the pics don’t match you’re screwed.

You could always sell stolen passports on the dark web – to an fbi agent. They like to buy fake IDs from morons living in their mom’s basement.

They got a truckload of FREE untraceable weed which is very easy to unload at a nice profit. Fucking with worthless stolen passports is idiotic. A loose end that puts them at the scene of the crime.

cheers
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cheers
4 years ago
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Maybe they were mad the farm didn’t hire locals?

Billy the Kidder
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Billy the Kidder
4 years ago
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A US passport can sell for up to 500$ in Thailand.

The Gold Standard is a Netherlands Passport.

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guest
4 years ago

These were not US Passports.

anon
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4 years ago
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cuts cooperation from witnesses to authorities.. “the criminals know who I am”

anon traveler

justanotherperson
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justanotherperson
4 years ago

naw, the first thing I thought was that these “legal” farms are still hiring foreign trimmers under the table and holding their passports in one place until they’re done working. It’s been a common practice on farms where workers are traveling kids from other countries.

Kimmerz
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Kimmerz
4 years ago

According to Sgt. Greg Allen with the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Department, the incident occurred around 9 a.m. today. He confirmed, “[T]here was a robbery of a legal permitted marijuana this morning in the Hoopa Valley. Several suspects were armed with firearms- no injuries were reported- Deputies are currently investigating and following leads…No arrest have been made at this time.”

This comment by the Sgt. Is wrong. He stated that the grow was in the Hoopa Valley when we don’t have grows on our land. Just to clarify for those saying the article doesn’t say it was in Hoopa. It may have been in the forested areas near our land but it was not “in the Hoopa Valley”.

Other than that IDC that someone who chose to grow in the forest away from normal agricultural land bases got robbed and shot at. Upsetting to see that they are bringing in this kind of Violence and crime in areas where it should be forest and wildlife. Instead of big huge agricultural grows at the top of watersheds away from any police protection. If you want to grow why don’t you try growing in places closer to emergency services and assistance and that are actually considered agricultural lands.

The stealing of the passports by the way is a huge clue to show it was most likely not anyone local that is robbing these grows. I would guess it’s probably the foreign trimmers who are tired of getting scammed by these growers. They promise these people easy money and then basically rip them off. Now it seems they possibly decided to start working for these people to case the places out then they robb them and steal back their passports. Just my guess anyway lol!

Billy the Kidder
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4 years ago
Reply to  Kimmerz

Wait. YOu’re saying that a legal, permitted grow is run by “shady out of towners” who need passports?

LOL

Whut?

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4 years ago

Wait I’m not necessarily pro-gun or anti-gun but how can you have a security Force on the permitted place if guns are not allowed? How does that work?

2s4u
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2s4u
4 years ago

The gaurds carry the guns on their person with special permits.

suck it up
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suck it up
4 years ago
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BOO HOO. somebody took my pot. sick of the crying!!!! [edit] if you swim with sharks you are going to get bit. so take your lumps or get out of the game. all this crying is not allowed on the field . if you want someone to feel sorry for you find a liberal and go to a safe place or maybe pet a rock. never heard so much crying [edit] and if you want sympathy look in the dictionary its between shit and syphillis. well i dont have a dictionary but you get the point lol ol

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4 years ago
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I once knew a guy who was the proprietor of a dispensary “back in the day”. Some goon with a gun tried to rob him. It was a mistake. Turns out it was the last mistake the gun-toting goon ever made. Started calling him “ol’ Dead-eye” after that.

Still, the “authorities” ended up closing that shit down. They don’t cotton to people making money if they can’t get a taste somehow.

Wake up and you're dead!!
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Wake up and you're dead!!
4 years ago

I’m guessing he was convicted of manslaughter and got seven to life and is now sitting in Pelican Bay without a “pot” to piss in.

anon
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4 years ago
Reply to  2s4u

special permits?? issued by WHAT sworn authority?(that cn overrule federal law on same) and given various ATF regs vs Cannabis will that permit protect you against the fed?

anon

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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/”…will that permit protect you…”/

No. It says so right under the “surrender my right to provide for me and my family”, voluntary application line.

The reeking stench of fraud can be smelled from counties-to-states away.

suck it up
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suck it up
4 years ago

suck it up whiney babies, you know what you are in for… keep it or lose it !!! Stop the crying you lost your shit or get out of the game. edit this out you dont like the truth moderators

La Canna Nostra
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La Canna Nostra
4 years ago

Where are the protection rackets when we need them? Don’t fuggedabouda cannoli.

Take the gun, leave the weed
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Take the gun, leave the weed
4 years ago

Growing weed is not profitable enough to afford professional protection. Take the gun, leave the weed.

CannaBelieveThesePricesEither!
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CannaBelieveThesePricesEither!
4 years ago

LOL It’s funny how the Spokespuppet for the Pharming Conglomerate goes out of his way to repeat the magic phrase “Legal” and “permitted” throughout this short press release. It’s almost as if they’re trying to say something about how this sort of crime is different if perpetrated against an “illegal” grow.

Maybe the whole concept of “legal” and “illegal” grows is meaningless when you have set up conditions in which excise taxes encourage a thriving black market.

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
4 years ago

For certain, canna.

The tax scheme from the top crook, Newsom, does assist the still lively and thriving Original market. Just allow the governor to tax a start-up industry into failure. It is a LOL.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

/”Maybe the whole concept of “legal” and “illegal” grows is meaningless”/

Ain’t no maybe about it. One big Shinola shyster show.

~you guys are great.

Happy Day.

Kym @8:10,
~smiles.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago

And here’s to speaking against things that our tax dollars support that I Don’t support!

There’s an old Kurdish saying that goes:

“NO FRIENDS BUT THE MOUNTAINS”

Please show our Kurdish brothers and sisters that isn’t true. Do everything you can. I beg you.

#RiseUp4Rojava

For anyone with no understanding of what’s happening to Kurds right now, here’s a little (simplified) history lesson for you….

Kurds have been living on the land they call home now for thousands of years. After WW1 and the fall off the Ottoman Empire, the British and French promised Kurds they could continue to reside in those areas peacefully because they intended to create a country called Kurdistan. They went back on that promise and carved up the Kurdish homeland with the creation of some new countries, meaning that the Kurdistan was split between Iraq, Iran, Turkey, and Syria.

All four of those countries have persecuted their Kurdish populations ever since. Turkey has committed the worst atrocities during that time, and up until recently, the Kurdish language, Kurdish names, and more were all banned. Turkey even refuses to call the people Kurds, and refers to them as “Mountain Turks” – a slur designed to brand Kurdish people as barbaric and uneducated.

Thousands of Kurds lost their lives during the 80s and 90s fighting against their Turkish oppressions, and yet the situation barely improved.

During the first Gulf War, the US encouraged Kurds to rise up against Saddam Hussein, but then failed to protect them when they did, resulting in thousands being murdered with chemical weapons.

Cue the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

When the US, UK and other Western countries invaded Iraq, Kurds fought alongside the allies, and against Saddam’s army. They managed to create an autonomous region in Iraq because of it. When ISIS began grabbing mass amounts of land in Iraq, the Kurds fought back with allied assistance and stamped them out.

When ISIS started taking land and murdering thousands in Syria, the Syrian President Assad ordered his army to leave the region and he left millions of Kurds there to die. They would have done too if it weren’t for the assistance of coalition air strikes and weapons that allowed them to push ISIS back and carve out another autonomous region in their homeland.

That region is Rojava. The people there live under a system called Democratic Confederalism which is based on workers’ rights, equality, feminism, and ecology. In principal, this version of democracy is far more democratic than any system used in a Western country today.

The Kurds didn’t want to team up with the US in Syria, they just didn’t want to die, and they were left with no option after being abandoned by Assad.

Now the US has abandoned the Kurds and left them to die too. They’re no longer “useful” and heaven forbid America is seen to be assisting a people who don’t bow to the international banking cartel, and are determined to live in a real democracy.

The US said it wanted to bring “democracy” to the Middle East, but not THAT sort of democracy.

Assad and Russia refuse to back Kurds now because they worked with the US instead of being murdered. And Turkey (the biggest oppressor of the Kurdish people, and the country that literally funded ISIS) has invaded their land with one of the largest armies in NATO with the intention of ethnic cleansing, genocide and freeing ISIS prisoners.

The Kurdish people just can’t win. Every major global power uses them when it suits their agenda, and then they feed them to the wolves.

The US won’t stand up for the Kurds. The Syrian Government won’t stand up for them, and neither will Iran or Russia. That is why every single person with a heart reading this must raise their voice now!

There’s an old Kurdish saying that goes:

“NO FRIENDS BUT THE MOUNTAINS”

Please show our Kurdish brothers and sisters that isn’t true. Do everything you can. I beg you.

#RiseUp4Rojava

Written by Lee Brickley

Rod Gass
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4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

You failed to describe how the Kurds survived before U.S. support. They are an ancient culture choosing to live within an ancient land. If their neighbors exterminate them, as the area has practiced with other cultures, does the world change somehow? No, life goes on.

Bring American service people home.

SmallFry
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4 years ago
Reply to  Rod Gass

The Kurds are strong, but sometimes even the strongest people need Allies, including US…

Sometimes lately I feel the irony of the genie of the lamp.. careful for what is asked for because it just may happen!
So, I Definitely respectfully understand and feel the sentiment of the ‘bringing our troops home mantra’… however, the Troops are still there in ‘Syria’.. just ordered to “fall back”.. at the same time, the US abandons our long standing Democratic Allies to slaughter.. More troops are sent to Saudi Arabia.. So, this “bring the troops home” is a false mantra in this scenario…

Life may ‘go on’ but it seams like the delicate balance of life in the region will certainly change!

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/11/pentagon-troops-saudi-arabia-044502

This interview describes the situation better than I ever could…
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/10/10/turkey_assault_northern_syria_kurds_rojava

Local farmer
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4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

So what is your solution to the kurds problem? Keep sending our military to be “peacemaker”? An honest question with no insult meant. Can you answer? Because i definitely don’t agree with spending tax money on overseas military ventures. Don’t worry I don’t hate you for wanting to spend billions on military “peacemakers”.

SmallFry
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4 years ago
Reply to  Local farmer

The situation is definitely complex.. having our troops there is obviously a temporary solution, However it did give the largely ignored region, and our long standing Allies who took great losses in supporting the US , a chance and a stronger voice, and stability, towards negotiating a settlement, and maintaining a safe zone for many refugees… The above links describe the situation far better than I can..

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

“Freedom and democracy” – has such a nice ring of treason to it. Let’s “bring” it to other countries. Go in, waste the country, murder the brown people, destroy the land, set-up shop . .. 307 – U.S. embassies, consulates and diplomatic missions around the world.

The U.S. Inc.

SmallFry
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4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

I full understand your sentiments CH, however this is more than just a Democracy brought about by the “bring” it Paridym of U.S. inc… As far as I understand, it’s a ‘Bottom Up stateless system’ built more thru ‘Citizens Assemblies’ and Democratic ‘self governance’ states… thru cooperative economics.. It’s very progressive.. This is a very interesting vid put out by A libertarian perspective..

Rojava: An Experiment in Radical Direct Democracy Within a War-Torn Country

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_KTvx8AnFU

A good video on the background of the conflict
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaKwjvxukvg

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

~what i like about these clips is seeing the younger generations putting it together much sooner than we even had a thought to think about, umm, the veil (for lack of a better word). I see honor in these up-and-coming, too-soon-to-be-adults.

What the hell is this Country doing???
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What the hell is this Country doing???
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

And throw in there the Jews (3.6 billion taxpayer dollars to Israel every year) and the Palestinians (150 million taxpayer dollars annually), any number of African countries, Iraq (we spent nearly a trillion taxpayer dollars for NOTHING), Afghanistan$$, Iran$$ and the list ($$$) goes on and on……………. And think of all the young American lives lost and the fattening of weapon’s corporation wallets at the cost of our infrastructure. We could have paid for everyone’s medical bills, college education and found jobs every unemployed person and built housing for every homeless person with what we have wasted killing people we don’t even know and destroying their countries. And yet we elect the likes of Reagan, LBJ/Nixon, Bush’s, Clinton and now Trump taking us down the same road. Bernie Sanders and Warren ideas are becoming better choices every year. But I will predict less than 40% of registered voters will not vote in 2020. How stupid are WE????

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BettingOnIt
4 years ago

Got to wonder how many armed criminals have gone out on what they thought was going to be an easy lick in the hills and were never heard from or seen by anyone else ever again? Sometimes.. exploiting the lack of a healthy law enforcement presence in the hills and not being legally documented, and or just being a moron by definition (which there is no shortage of in Humboldt) backs fires big time.

It’s game over for the Green Rusher’s and Criminals both alike in Humboldt anyways come 2023, when Type 5 licenses are issued. I’ve got front row seats and my popcorn ready to go, can’t wait to see this place get it’s long over due reality check.

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4 years ago
Reply to  BettingOnIt

Scuttlebutt says they were buried with heavy equipment in their vehicle. Never to be heard from again….
https://kymkemp.com/2017/07/31/four-missing-southern-california-men-trinity-county-sheriffs-office-releases-more-information/

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Captain Crunch
4 years ago

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