Humboldt Supervisors Move to Explore Legal Shield for Residents Facing Deportation
Centro Del Pueblo Executive Director Brenda Perez [Screenshot from video]
In response to a group of concerned residents, Humboldt County’s Board of Supervisors is considering a “universal representation fund” to provide legal services for those facing immigration enforcement and deportation.
Providing legal assistance aligns with Humboldt’s status as a sanctuary county and although there are questions on where funding will come from, supervisors supported the idea when they discussed it at their April 14 meeting.
Several residents of McKinleyville have asked the county to consider it and Lisa Dugan, a member of McKinleyville’s Municipal Advisory Committee, said the proposal stems from controversial federal enforcement.
“This was really kind of a heart-centered action from our neighborhood who have felt really helpless in light of what has happened with the community of Minneapolis with ICE and out of concern for our neighbors and what they could be facing,” she continued.
Dugan said several other counties in California have legal assistance funds, with some being “solely county-based” others is partnership with with non-profit groups.
As the proposal was discussed, collaborations with local non-profit groups – most notably Centro Del Pueblo – and organizations like the Humboldt Area Foundation were suggested.
During a public comment period, Centro Del Pueblo volunteers and staffers said recently-intensified federal immigration enforcement has people in fear and is putting entire families at risk.
Brenda Perez, Centro Del Pueblo’s executive director, said the group is launching a “legal resource center” that will “focus on providing access and legal pathways for workers.”
Attorneys from the UC Davis Labor and Community Center will be in Eureka this summer to offer “consultations,” Perez continued.
She described legal assistance as “a huge need regardless of the context” and asked supervisors to pursue it.
Supervisor Steve Madrone sponsored the discussion and questioned the likelihood of two assumptions – that sanctuary laws draw federal enforcement and are costly to implement.
“Some would say that because we have a sanctuary ordinance as a county, and there are two cities with that ordinance, we then become a target,” he said. “I think we’re small enough to where that may or may not be true but the bottom line is that even when that ordinance was being developed, there was a lot of opposition from some government officials around what the cost might be to implement it, which has been proven to not be the case.”
He described planning for response to aggressive federal enforcement as time-sensitive.
“I don’t want to wait until all of a sudden we have families being torn apart and ICE (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement) finally shows up in our community doing all kinds of things like we’ve seen across the country,” said Madrone “So I do think now is the time to act.”
To better understand what it will take to set up a fund for legal help on immigration issues, supervisors directed formation of a working group including Madrone and Supervisor Natalie Arroyo and relevant staffers, including the county’s public defender. Also included are representatives from Centro Del Pueblo and the Humboldt Area Foundation will also be invited to participate.*
The proposal will be agendized again at a future meeting.
*The wording in the last sentence was updated to more accurately reflect that HAF will be invited but was not present to assent.
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Why does our county always work against legal tax paying citizens?
I dont understand it either .they are supposed to represent legal tax paying citizens.Everything they do is paid for by legal citizens.
Bribes? Worry that the illegals won’t be able to vote Dem? Misplaced allegiance?
Pay attention now!
Joe legal works in construction, has a Social Security number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.
Jose illegal also works in construction has no Social Security number and makes $15.00 per hour cash, under the table.
Ready?… now pay attention….
Joe legal: $25.00 per hour × 40 hours = $1,000.00 per week or $52,000.00 per year. Now, take 31% away for State and Federal taxes. Joe legal now has $31,231.00.
Jose illegal: $15.00 an hour × 40 hours = $600.00 per week or $31,200.00 per year. Jose illegal pays no taxes. Jose illegal now has $31,200.00.
Joe legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe legal now has $24,031.00.
Jose illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the State and local clinics and emergency hospitals at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose illegal still has $31,200.00.
Joe legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe legal spends $500.00 per month for food or $6,000.00 per year. Joe legal now has $18,031.00.
Jose illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps, WIC and welfare. Jose illegal still has $31,200.00.
Joe legal pays rent of 1,200.00 per month or $14,400.00 per year. Joe legal now has $9,631.00.
Jose illegal receives $500.00 per month Federal rent subsidy. Jose illegal pays out that $500.00 per month or $6,000.00 per year. Jose illegal still has $31,200.00.
Joe legal pays $200.00 per month or $2,400.00 per year for car insurance. Some of that is uninsured motorist insurance. Joe legal now has $7,231.00.
Jose illegal says, “We don’t need no stinkin’ insurance.”… and still has $31,000.00.
Joe legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline.. etc.
Jose illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline and what he sends out of the country every month….
Joe legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.
Jose illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.
Joe legal’s and Jose illegal’s children both attend the same elementary school.
Joe legal pays for his children’s lunches while…
Jose illegal’s children get a government-sponsored lunch.
Jose illegal’s children have an after school ESL program.
Joe legal’s children go home.
Now, when they reach college age…
Joe legal’s kids may not get into a State school and may not qualify for scholarships, grants or other tuition help, even though Joe has been paying for State schools through his taxes, while…
Jose illegal’s kids go to the, ‘head of the class’ because they are a minority.
Joe legal and Jose illegal both benefit from the same police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not.
Do you get it, now?
If we vote for or support any politician that supports illegal aliens,… we are part of the problem.
Its way PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans!
https://x.com/sues86453/status/2045524696246923465
This comparison only “works” because it stacks the deck with assumptions that aren’t accurate. Undocumented workers generally aren’t eligible for food stamps, welfare, or housing subsidies, and many still pay taxes through payroll withholding, sales taxes, and rent. On the other side, a $52k legal worker isn’t likely paying a flat 31% tax rate and likely qualifies for credits that aren’t included here (think child care deductions, etc). Once you fix those inputs, the math doesn’t come out the way this post suggests.
No one seems to want to talk about the messes left by people who have made money by employing cheap, illegal labor whether it was the 19 year old from Mexico who tore the ligaments in his leg on his job, was taken to the hospital, given $800 dollars and a bus ticket back to Mexico to the European 23 year old tourist raped at a grow and wanted to go home. Those are just a couple of the people who set themselves up be used and then just disappeared with anyone much noting their absence.
On the other side of the equation was the 60 year old man who lost his health insurance paying for his cancer treatments when his long term employer simply laid everyone off and replaced them with Southeast Asians recruited to work at half the amount of wages and the COBRA coverage ran out. Or the guy who had had to started new career as a long haul truck driver at the age of 58 for the same reason. They hardly ever get the press coverage and would have been embarrassed by having their situation known.
Not to mention the towns that fell into a death spiral when the big employer in the town closed up shop and sent his manufacturing to cheaper countries. It has nothing to do with the quality of the immigrant but it has a lot to do with the Americans who have no respect for their fellow countrymen. As long as they are okay. Until they suddenly notice that things are not so good for their neighbors anymore. Then they want to “tax rich” and have more government fix it. As if it does. Something just change but the callousness of excluding these people from the debate never does.
This is not something seen from the top of a mountain looking down on the poor mortals in the muck below. These are the complacent out-of-sight-out-of-mind non-existent that are just some of the fodder for those who think inconvenient laws can be ignored.
Kim so you say. But do you really expect government-sponsored research to show otherwise? If They’re illegal and don’t pay taxes what are the chances that researchers will uncover true statistics? Don’t let left political bias blind you
This doesn’t help legal tax paying citizens and increases human trafficking in an area that already has a missing and murdered problem.
Not necessarily true. My ex-wife, a permanent legal alien, has lived here for over 30 yrs, worked, paid taxes, raised two (now adult) taxpaying children (who are ‘Murican citizens🇺🇸) volunteered for things like Thanksgiving dinners at the shelter in Eureka, never had a speeding ticket let alone any criminal record and just never got around to obtaining citizenship though she easily could.
My neighbor is a letter carrier, legal permanent resident, married to a local, has raised now adult kids and also never got around to becoming a citizen, though could.
They both will tell you the current crazy behavior from the feds is very unsettling, to say the least. In my opinion any support, fiscal or otherwise from our local leadership is welcome.
Never got around to it? 30 years? Yes ICE is totally out of control but….
How about a system with an easily obtainable and transferable work permit but those using it must be paid 50% above prevailing wages+ taxes with the requirement they are able to vote in home country elections and the extra goes to retirement programs in their home countries and our social programs. And bust the heck out of those employing non-permitted foreigners with massive fines. Of course the Epstein class want disposable labor to drive down native wages or they would have been going after employers all along.
30 years is an awful long time to not fully complete something. Long enough to see your kids have kids of their own. People have their reasons, but that’s a pretty damn important issue to follow up on. Or was citizenship never really the end goal? You can’t claim victimhood for stretching things out forever that don’t take forever to complete. Especially now.
I think the process takes about that long due to back logs and long lines. Would you like to jump through bureaucratic hoops for decades? It seems like ppl with your view think it’s just like renewing your drivers license or something.
In my opinion your ex wife and the mail carrier should have obtained their citizenship then they wouldn’t need to worry.
I agree completely. See my comment below for her defense. Thin though it may be.
30 years? There is NO defense. Hopefully ICE has your address.
Ahuka,
Wtf is your problem?
As clearly mentioned by Quipster, both people are LEGAL PERMANENT RESIDENTS OF THE USA, just not Naturalized Citizens.
That is a legal position to hold as intended by Legislation passed by the Senate & Congress.
ICE has no reason nor right to harass them.
Festus,
Did you notice the “Legal” portion of the Legal Permanent Resident title???
They shouldn’t have to worry about illegal & unconstitutional thuggery by ICE, regardless of your opinion.
Legal permanent residents shouldn’t need to worry about facing deportation actions. It’s unfortunate that the federal government has chosen such a ridiculously aggressive approach to immigration that legal residents do need to consider the risk of legal costs associated with over zealous enforcement.
I know a handful of legal permanent residents who have chosen not to become citizens for various reasons. Why do you feel that they should have to take that step? Why is their taking the steps to obtain legal permanent residency not sufficient for them to be able to live here, secure in their sense that they won’t be harassed or threatened with deportation?
That “federal government has chosen such a ridiculously aggressive approach to immigration” ceased being ridiculous when protests started showing more Mexican, Venezuelan, Palestinian, Iranian, etc flags than American ones. When California and a handful of other states declared themselves sanctuary states. When Newsom proposed to make all illegal immigrants eligible for government subsidized health care. When Americans are pressured by non citizens to support causes that create even more division in America.
“I don’t like the way people are expressing themselves at protests so I now support masked federal police aggressively detaining immigrants” is certainly a political perspective. Not really aligned with the ideals of this American experiment but hey, american conservatives have been overtly pushing authoritarianism for my whole life.
I think the honest answer is, “the policy stopped being ridiculous once states started moving away from privatized prisons and the donor class needed to refill those empty facilities to maintain the gains on their investments.”
It took me a minute to interpret your spinning what I said about how people protest by displaying foreign flags into my objecting to how “express themselves”. True that in a way. I do object to people asserting, then acting on it, that non- citizens have the right to ignore America laws at their own discretion and asserting that trying to enforce laws by arresting the law breakers is not aligned with “this American experiment.” Hello that’s your authoritarian political perspective that says individuals get to act as if laws don’t matter because they don’t like them.
The trite phrase “American experiment” repeated like some academic apologist’s hackneyed polemic from a TV script clearly means the speaker is clueless about what America means to most Americans. It is not some experiment. It is my home. You don’t get to parse me out of my home with mean little political rhetoric without hearing me tell your you have no right to such ideas. You can not subdivide me into an convenient academic category for easy containment and dismissal. This is my home and if you don’t like my being in my home, don’t like me respecting what that home has provided for me, you can take yourself elsewhere. You don’t deserve America if you think that you can choose for everyone what it means to be American. Now that is a bit of honesty.
You want local help for them.
Why?
They are lazy and didn’t get around to it?
So other hard working Humboltians should flip the bill because after 30 years they didn’t feel the need to finish the immigration status.
That’s lame.
If they are eligible for US citizenship then they need to pay the fee and get processed like all other immigrants.
You can be legal and tax paying and not be a citizen. In fact Humboldt has quite a few outlaw, non tax-paying citizens. Explain the connection to “human trafficking”. Look up per capita missing persons, and murder rates and you’ll find us somewhere below San Bernardino. In fact we had one of the highest found persons rate from erroneous missing reports.
So I think you’re gonna be ok. Especially since the supes didn’t do anything. Except enjoy their travel stipend during these things expensive times.
Well THAT’S weird. I must have teleported.
I remember taking a couple Ambien to help sleep off all that Mogen David at that kids birthday party, then the next thing you know, I’m waking up behind the Mad River Burger bar with a box of Mongolian Wok all over my bare chest. And what looked like Taco Bell on my phone. I think Catholic Mexican immigrants got a hold of it during my teleportation.
I remember a yeti, which is weird because this is Bigfoot country. Obviously an illegal
Human trafficking is real.
Here’s a suggestion for the Humboldt county supervisors, they should set up a working group and start a fund to pave the damn roads that are falling apart. It’s not just extreme rural roads that need attention, McKinleyville in particular has many roads that are awful to drive on.
As soon as McKinleyville started talking about incorporating they sealed their fate. The county won’t give anything to a town that is talking about going out on their own.
Just ask Garberville. When a group formed to create Southern Humboldt into Sequoia County, all funding for everything dried up. No road repair,.they let they courthouse rot, along with the Sheriff substation, and any other county responsibilities.
The Transient Occupancy Tax that was collected to promote tourism is southern Humboldt was spent in Northern Humboldt. They allowed the Town to rot while they were busy trying to figure out how to extort funding from the Marijuana industry.
Good luck McKinleyville, you may as well incorporate, you can’t be any worse off…
Thanks for that perspective Ernie, I hadn’t considered that the county wouldn’t want to put money into an area they might loose. I wonder if a town incorporates if it has to purchase county infrastructure in some way.
Yep,yep and yep.And if they do incorporate, they will be in a financial quagmire.
Yeah they did that 82 years ago. The funding is called TAXes. But the progressives in government have stolen our TAX money and used it for social justice projects only a few care about.
Yes, conservatives are very generous with tax dollars, the love giving it to their rich friends.
I’m ok with it as long as they pay for it out of their pockets and not ours.
Legal immigrants don’t need this help only criminals . Why is it wrong to ask them to come in the front door.
What the actual legitimate **** is going on up in their heads??
While we’re at it could I get a little free legal representation paid for by the good citizens of Humboldt ? I get tired of $500 per hour bills.
Well, gosh…
What about the idea of the County of Humboldt creating a working group agreeable to assisting otherwise law abiding, willing, non citizens in their diligent efforts towards actually becoming citizens…???
And then, just as long as those otherwise law abiding non citizens that are not yet citizens are in at least some kind of a regular process or a part of a process like this, of actually working towards becoming citizens, some kind of legal assistance could possibly be provided keeping their previous efforts towards becoming citizens in mind…
However, as benevolent as this idea proposed by the county appears to be…
Humboldt County providing a taxpayer funded ,”insurance policy”, so to speak, for legal representation on behalf of non citizens that have no intention of making an effort to become US citizens, especially those that do not even necessarily reside in Humboldt County, or even reside in California, let alone be necessarily employed here, and/or are just passing through on some sort of criminal mission, keeping in mind that would be much more serious than the merely civil violation of being present here only undocumented…
Hopefully, cases of undocumented presence only, being provided an assisted defense, is being considered…
That is unclear, at this point, and in my opinion, needs to be clarified…
Will this legal service legal representation be provided to non citizen, non resident drug smugglers, also, who just happen to be passing through Humboldt County during their deliveries of illicit, potentially fatal products, and get arrested for it, who end up facing deportation as a result…???
Because, in such egregious cases, I don’t think that preventing deportation, or even a defense against it, would be a very good idea for our Humboldt County Supervisors to embrace or engage in, or to even lift a little finger to provide…
Where will the legal line be drawn as far as violations of the penal code/civil code, in this proposed effort to provide taxpayer funded oversight of, and/or, Supervisor guided legal assistance towards prevention of deportation…???
It seems like the taxpayer funded folks that we call our Humboldt County Supervisors that we are depending on to keep their attention focused on things like proper road maintenance, are getting distracted by charitable missions and other things that are not in their wheelhouse, and/or clearly within their official bailiwick ..
By all appearances, (where the rubber actually hits the road, so to speak), the Humboldt County Supervisors that we have duly elected to serve their electorate, have subsequently themselves dubiously elected, at the behest of representatives serving foreign interests, to pave the road with good intentions, instead of asphalt, and we all know, full well, where that road, that the Humboldt County Supervisors are choosing to pave only with good intentions will lead to…
Maybe our Supervisors could be so kind as to looking into providing some sort of legal assistance to the many Humboldt County land owners they have charged with abatement processes, instead, or at least in addition to non citizens, that are also otherwise not entitled to publically funded legal defense of the abatement proceedings that Humboldt County has subjected them all to, that are unresolvable…
Hmmm…
The Humboldt County Supervisors are considering providing noncitizens with civil services that they refuse to provide for citizens…
What could go wrong…???
Sounds to me like the Humboldt County Supervisors have their priorities all mixed up…!!!
For example many, many, Humboldt County citizens have long been facing many, many very contentious, ongoing, unresolvable civil abatement processes initiated by the County of Humboldt, (with the Supervisors myriad blessings), that are possibly unconstitutional and are currently approaching being heard in a US Supreme Court appeal, and those many, many citizens are completely without legal representation here in Humboldt, and the County supervisors have elected to completely ignore and callously and carelessly just overlook those needs and that reality, while they simultaneously actually consider preemptively providing legal defense for noncitizens, for hypothetical future cases of noncitizens facing deportation that are fucking actually currently non existent…???
WTAF…!!!???
WHO DO YOU WORK FOR…!!!???
I agree, wholeheartedly with your comment.
in defensive of my ex-wife I would say that her parents are aging, they’re quite old, and the citizenship process is onerous in the sense that you can’t leave the country until it’s finished. That can take a couple years and now probably even more, preventing her from visiting her parents. Life happens. That’s no excuse and I’ve encouraged her for years to just get her passport. But she hasn’t and there’s no law that she has to.
How dare requiring behavior that a person will truly wants to contribute to America inconvenience them by requiring they not shuttle between countries at will! How dare it! How xenophobic to not assume every person who avoids the inconvenient laws of a country is not equal to those who follow the laws. Somehow the Second Amendment has devolved into the right of immigrants, lawful and unlawful, to demand the US act against its own citizens to support their interests from the country they left.
Hello? This country is fully to overflowing with people who despise their fellow citizens (like you said above ” ‘Murican”), criticizing every aspect of any one them, their behavior, asssuming every personal flaw is a condemnation of Americain the whole, while simultaneously announcing even mentioning the criminal behavior of any immigrant is just a reflection of the ugliness of America. Every aspect of foreign culture demands respect, protection except American ones, demanding that everyone pretend that there are no problems with that. Everyone wants the advantages but not the responsibilities of American citizenship and attacks anyone who suggests otherwise. And this BOS are prime examples.
“Everyone wants the advantages but not the responsibilities of American citizenship”
You should have said:
Everyone wants the advantages but not the responsibilities of American citizenship!
Voter I.D. is becoming an obvious necessity.
It’s not a necessity until it has been proven to be a necessity.
Just because some people claim something might be, or might one day become a problem, it doesn’t mean that it actually is– or that it actually ever will be a problem.
Jumping off a clif is not a problem either…until you land at the bottom. Happy landings Tuck.
Might as well make a law against living which inevitably results in death.
Maybe just install guard rails in places of obvious truncation of life?
Harry Belafonte – Man Smart (Woman Smarter) (Official Audio)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAHfo49iN1w
“It’s not a necessity until it has been proven to be a necessity.
Just because some people claim something might be, or might one day become a problem, it doesn’t mean that it actually is– or that it actually ever will be a problem.”
-Jebs-
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So, then, what you are saying is, is that you are against this, “LEGAL SHIELD FOR RESIDENTS FACING DEPORTATION” nonsense, right…???
Again, unlike the unfounded claims of rampant voter fraud, arrest and deportation are real risks faced my many of our friends and neighbors.
Saying that there is no reason to consider protective measures against raids and arrests would be like saying there is no need to consider a wildfire strategy because the fire has yet to crest the ridge.
Being shielded against an unrealized risk is the same thing as passing Voter ID laws…
Show me evidence where otherwise law abiding non citizens in Humboldt County have been deported, and/or are actually facing deportation…
As far as I know, it ain’t happening…
You keep equating the non existent, merely imagined risk of deportation to real deportation, while also continuing to say the risk of voter fraud is not real…
And actual citizens aren’t even guaranteed legal representation in civil matters, so why should non citizens feel entitled to legal representation in civil matters…???
Deportation proceedings are civil matters…
Suggesting that non citizens are somehow entitled to a type of “shield” that actual US citizens are not even entitled to is a tall order, and a very big ask…
For that reason, I really don’t think that the Supervisors should even be considering it…
Or, are these non citizen demands also being made for a shield against deportation proceedings arising from criminal matters…???
It’s not really that clear….
Either way, I think that disincentivizing obtaining citizenship is a bad idea…
Your comparison is a logical fallacy…
It’s a false equivalence…
It’s one thing to compare apples and oranges…
You have taken it to the extreme…
You are actually comparing “wildfire” to “ICE”…
Had me before the profanity kicked in.
Waste time, waste money, talk…
Your Supervisors are not too good at their jobs…
Who thought this one up?
“We’re gonna spend your money on, hmmmm, legal defense?”
Why just the non-citizens?
Let’s hire some Lawyers, lots of them, right now…
Serve your constituents, not the crazy advocates…
IMHO:
County is $14 million in the hole.
They have no real escape plan from their Newsomite budget crisis.
(Double-Ought “00” ballot measure) yeah… RAISE TAXES !)
And they want to spend money defending illegal aliens ?
Board of Stupes ? You know what I say ‘(*%^@&&*^*(^^’.
(Remark was edited for RHBB).
The end result does not justify the means (somebody said)
They could self deport. They get a check, a free plane ticket home, and apply to come in legally. Some have taken the check, the ticket, and were approved to come back legally after self deporting.
The people who are being arrested and deported aren’t going to do anything right and blame everyone but themselves.
Some countries are emptying their prisons and sending their criminals to America. The Supervisors just don’t care about women and children who are Americans much.
Since we’re all sitting on EXTRAHUGE refund checks from tax day, I offer a friendly reminder: If you value this local news outlet, consider donating on a monthly basis.
Well I’m not sitting on any refund cash. it must be nice, you could thank President Trump for that. I did have to pay about $30,000 less than I expected to pay probably because of President Trump’s tax changes, thanks Trump. Win Win.
So….
Noncitizens get …
“THE SHIELD”…
…courtesy of the Humboldt County Supervisors…
while actual US Citizens…
…also, courtesy of the Humboldt County Supervisors, get…
“THE SHAFT”…???
That shaft part for citizens sounds pretty damn unconstitutional to me…
I really don’t think that’s what our founding forefathers had in mind, as our Country nears it’s 250th Anniversary, or that which they and those that followed them, fought for and died for, in order to uphold and defend…!!!
How far our government has fallen…
This is a perfect example…
The worst kind of erosion comes from within it…
Your comment makes no sense– especially considering that there was no such thing as US citizenship 250 years ago.
The Plantation Act of 1740 allowed Protestants living in the Colonies to become British subjects if they had lived here for at least seven years.
The first US citizenship by naturalization law was established in 1790 and granted citizenship to White males who had lived in the country for at least two years.
Of the signers of the Declaration of Independence, 14% were foreign-born, which is roughly the same percentage of the US population that is foreign-born today.
That’s a ridiculous rewriting of what RG said. And an incredible spin of editing out the very meaning of “Founding Fathers” and what damned hard and risky work it was to found a country at all. They didn’t have the protections of Bill of Rights that commenters such as yourself apparently don’t bother to question as protecting them- the Founding Fathers created it.
Even if your comment made any sense at all, which as a selection of random facts it doesn’t, America was a British colony. Did you really think there was any chance of there not being some foreign born there? Or that they might have actually fought against what they perceived to the foreign rulers screwing up their lives? Or that things changed when theybsucceeded?
Hey Supervisors…
I have an idea…
How about we focus our limited County resources on solving real problems that actually exist, that we actually are facing, rather than haphazardly pissing them away on hypothetical problems that someone has dreamed up that just may happen, but that hasn’t even happened yet…???
Let’s make the effort to cross that bridge when we come to it, not unnecessarily before we even get there…
Or at least recognize that citizens are your constituency. Not not citizens. The idiocy of elected officials protecting those who violate laws that creates their very existence as officials, that they love to enforce on their citizenry against its objections, is written large in this county.
Immigration raids, incarceration, and deportation are very real threats that actually exist.
Having a plan to help people who are facing such issues feels apt.
Besides, I seem to recall some people advocating for voter ID laws in order to prevent hypothetical problems that someone has dreamed up that just may happen.
Talk about going out of one’s way to cross a bridge that hasn’t even been proven to exist.
You seem to always have a problem with voter ID is there something you know about and are hiding? What could possibly be wrong with a voter presenting ID when they vote in person? Anyone opposed to this idea should be questioned.
I don’t believe in passing unnecessary laws.
And, until something has actually been shown to be a problem, any law to address it is an unnecessary law.
“Providing legal assistance aligns with Humboldt’s status as a sanctuary county and although there are questions on where funding will come from, supervisors supported the idea when they discussed it at their April 14 meeting.” Is one big reason why. Why do you feel that is “apt?” Especially in a county that already has more poverty, more unemployed and more crime than most of the rest of the state?
And your advocating for spending local government funds to support a sanctuary for illegal immigrants is one clear example of why voter ID is the one of the few things standing between its citizens and citizenship becoming nothing of importance. California is already home to the largest number of illegal immigrants of any other state.
https://www.latintimes.com/texas-judge-dismisses-rioting-charges-against-hundreds-migrants-who-rushed-border-gate-554047
https://www.foxnews.com/us/dozens-illegal-immigrants-accused-border-stampede-el-paso-texas-released-us-ice
Interesting that you choose to bring up voter ID laws that you are against for a potential problem that you say is non existent to compare to this ” shield the non citizens from even potentially being deported” issue…
Yet you are all for this preemptive action in Humboldt for a problem that is non existent in Humboldt…
Freudian slip…???
I was going to make the very same comparison, earlier, (but in reverse), by asking “Where are all the hypocritical liberals now who have been relentlessly claiming “this is totally unnecessary”, (just like they keep saying about voter ID), “because a problem with voter fraud doesn’t yet exist…”…???
But, you beat me to it…
Obviously you must have also been thinking about the hypocritical hypocrisy that I was also thinking about…
How can you possibly think that voter ID is not necessary, if you think that creating a shield for undocumented noncitizens in Humboldt, for a deportation problem that doesn’t exist in Humboldt, is somehow necessary…???
Because that’s wildly inconsistent and highly self contradictory…
Immigration raids and deportations have been happening, though.
You can’t expect me to believe you haven’t seen any of the news on it.
Just because it hasn’t happened here yet dosen’t mean we’re somehow immune.
If meaningful amounts of voter fraud had been happening in other places, I would also agree that we need to bolster our defenses against it.
But since it hasn’t, we don’t
“Immigration raids, incarceration, and deportation are very real threats that actually exist.”
-Jebs-
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Not in Humboldt they don’t…
Link please, Evidence please, pertinent to Humboldt County…
Our Supervisors have deemed and declared Humboldt County to be a Sanctuary Status County…
That Sanctuary Status is a hedge of protection…
But, as if that isn’t good enough, they also want to be also provided some kind of an undefined civil pre-emptive legal force shield mechanism to go along with their already provided preemptive Humboldt County Sanctuary Status hedge of protection…
Centro del Pueblo just needs to put a good immigration attorney on retainer, and be prepared to fund the defense of undocumented immigrants in Humboldt County that face deportation proceedings, if and when the time comes…
This sure doesn’t seem to me like it’s within the job description of what our County Supervisors are actually supposed to be doing…
But, what do I know…???
Isn’t this a person in the com.ission of a crime? You are helping CRIMINALS escape justice. F your feelings!
“in collaboration with non profit groups” who most likely receive grants of taxpayer dollars, in order to defy federal law. Don’t address real problems, like homelessness, instead, get on the progressive bandwagon to retain the replacement population. Total waste of time and TAXPAYER dollars (as in people who have real SSN and pay their taxes)
I applaud the BOS for raising funds to help immigrants become citizens. Anybody who has spent their working life in Humboldt understands that immigrants represent an important and sizeable number of workers in our most dangerous jobs in the construction, logging, fishing, and dairy/agriculture industries.
It’s trying to conjure up the danger in the dairy industry … that employs a large group of illegals at substandard wages. What, getting run over by a cow? Help us out here.
Get your guts kicked out by a bull. Where you bin hiding?
True, cows are big and dangerous. Not even bulls- just cows. Along with farm equipment, trapsing over bogs and fences, muck, etc. 24/7 care needed. It’s hard work. But if people are not willing to pay for the actual cost of a product that involves expensive labor but expects will be subsidized without work, this is what happens.
Trend is smaller cows.
Like mini Holsteins? There have always been smaller more cooperative breeds of cows but the volume is with the big ladies. Since I have been flattened by an anxious 120 lb mama goat, it would be amazing to see see safe sized cows.
It is becoming more clear everyday how more and more awful, simply awful, politicians get elected each year. The public is forced to choose between two extremist candidates, neither of whom represent them. Voting against whatever is seen as the worse has become the only option.
Damn, the HAF has become a tool of the Progressive ideocracy. All those people who left money in their will to support environmental causes, scholarships, human services, various charities, public parks, etc would be horrified to see what it has become. Truly, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Absurd interference with federal laws continues. Taxpayer money for free defense of non citizens, while the county runs a huge deficit.
NEW 📀 For What It’s Worth – Buffalo Springfield -4K- {Stereo} 1966
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVhn1edWaDA
A broke county to set up $ome $ort of a fund for people in the county/country illegally?
Hey BOS,
Before spending money on illegal immigrants, can you please help Alderpoint with their PG&E and water infrastructure issues?
I would be interested for each Supervisor to weigh in with their thoughts on this for the record.
A prominent feature of any Exploration is not knowing what will be found. Of course guesses can be made, but those are only guesses or completely beforehand unfounded unprovable expectations. The significant whataboutism here refers to those swept up by ICE illegally, without due process, who are actually legal immigrants or already USA citizens.
A problem to be overcome but does that mean that taking decades of process should be allowed to stall the removal of the many who are not incorrectly swept up? Which is exactly how this situation came to be. There is no fool proof system but, when other government entities offer sanctuary and every enforcement is underfunded, it comes down to do or give it up.
Carried to extreme no due process means a lot of innocent folks get murdered by the government.
Not enforcing the laws effectively means a lot of innocent people get killed by those the government failed to intercept or remove. It you want to tick up the toll on innocence, government ineffectiveness has killed a lot more than aggressive tactics. The best solution is not in either extreme but that has not been acceptable to far too many. This BOS among them.
Humboldt County should cooperate with Federal officers in regards to National Security and Immigration laws.
National Security and Immigration Laws are two separate things, both of which fall under the purview of the Federal government– not County or City.
No, they are inseparable.
Eh ?. All citizens are required to obey federal law.
Alabama ignored federal laws… regarding the integration of colored students into white schools. Due to the direction of the state government… the local/state law enforcement took no action to enforce federal laws.
Local newspapers extolled the virtues of state law.
Finally the US Government sent in Federalized National Guard troops to enforce the federal law. (You kin’ read about that.)
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On June 11, 1963, President John F. Kennedy federalized the Alabama National Guard to force the integration of the University of Alabama, overriding Governor George Wallace’s “Stand in the Schoolhouse Door”. Troops accompanied Black students Vivian Malone and James Hood to register, successfully desegregating the institution without violence.
Violence & Intimidation: The Ku Klux Klan and white citizens’ councils used bombings, physical assaults, and economic reprisals against activists and Black families, notes Encyclopedia of Alabama.
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Now. Californika has chosen to ignore federal law. Like making sure that the borders are secure and ensuring that all ‘legal’ immigrants are properly and fully permitted and that Illegals are deported. Newsomites directed that the local/state law enforcement took no action to enforce federal laws.
Local newspapers extolled the virtues of state law.
Finally the US Government sent in ICE agents to enforce the federal law.
(You kin’ read about that.)
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On July 10, 2025, federal law enforcement officers executed criminal warrant operations at marijuana grow sites in Carpinteria and Camarillo. As of July 13, at least 14 migrant children have been rescued from potential exploitation, forced labor, and human trafficking.
Federal officers also arrested at least 361 illegal aliens from both sites in Carpinteria and Camarillo. ICE and CBP arrested violent and dangerous criminal illegal aliens during the operation who were working at the marijuana site.
During the operation, more than 500 rioters attempted to disrupt operations. Four U.S. citizens are being criminally processed for assaulting or resisting officers. The rioters damaged vehicles and one violent agitator fired a gun at law enforcement officers.
LA streets erupt in riots for a 2nd night over immigration enforcement. Protesters clash with police, hurling objects at cars and officers.
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Hmm… Sound familiar ?
But this whole article is about the county taking on itself something out of its purview.
The article is simply about the county discussing possibly providing legal assistance to people who live here– which it has decided not to do at this time.
How do you read that as the County taking on something out of its purview?
“To better understand what it will take to set up a fund for legal help on immigration issues, supervisors directed formation of a working group including Madrone and Supervisor Natalie Arroyo and relevant staffers, including the county’s public defender. Also included are representatives from Centro Del Pueblo and the Humboldt Area Foundation will also be invited to participate.*” does not mean they have “decided not to do” something. They have – gasp- done something.
I thinnk some posters willfully refuse to admit to understanding simple things. It makes it hard to have a conversation when simple things have to be pointed out over and over.
People who are not legally citizens who are subject to removal. People who are suppressing wages. People who are competing housing. People with medical needs who then expect medical care. People who bring their kids and need ESL classes.
Oh, the expenses just go on and on. Now they get free legal services and Americans get to pay for it all again.
As a taxpayer I oppose one cent of my money or one minute of my tax funded representative devoted to helping illegals dodge the law and the consequences of what they have done. They are no different than anyone else who breaks the law. Get caught, pay the price. They do not deserve any special treatment.
Yes! If they are such”honest” hard working people they should do it legally ,or pay the price. How can we have homeless vets, and families, and support these a..holes.
You know, many immigrants I’ve met are fine people who would be a plus for the county if they wouldn’t undercut the wages for locals. What is a bottomless hole of misery are the people who abuse hard working citizens, heap criticism on their own country, who idealize what they are clueless about, call their fellow citizens greedy racists, fascists whatever while ignoring the same faults in immigrants all the while ignoring any of the harm caused by out of control immigration even to the point of protecting criminals. The absolute bottom are those who do that while hiring cheap labor with a sense of smug self satisfaction about how noble they are in doing that.
And of course the politicians who pander to them.
How about setting up a pathway to citizenship for anyone who has not committed a serious crime since arriving here?
Then they could demand fair wages and seek legal remedies if they are cheated.
They already broke the law when they ignored our immigration laws. No.
Trump did that. The first step is contacting ICE and self deporting. If they self deport, they get a check, a free plane ticket home to their families, and they get to move to the front of the line to apply to come legally. Many have done it successfully.
Citizenship isn’t something we should award anyone who avoids law enforcement after breaking in the US.
Your comment contain some pretty blatant dishonesty there.
The people who self-deport do not move to the front of the line .
Even the DHS web page is clear on that.
“CBP Home does not include benefits or preferences for future applications at this time.” https://www.dhs.gov/cbphome
So no, Trump did not set up a pathway to citizenship.
Just like Trump did not bring about an end to eight wars.
He did not inherit the worst inflation the country has ever seen.
He was not exonerated by the Epstein files that have been released.
And he did not win the 2020 election.
You’ve really got to stop believing everything a compulsive liar says.
You say you believe males are women.
We tried a one-time amnesty in the time of Reagan. We shook a naughty finger at future illegals and said never again. But they still came again. Do you expect us to sit back and say we weren’t really serious, it’s okay we’ll let it go again? Pretty soon you might as well have no border and that seems to be your position. A faulty position by reasonable people but a position no doubt.
There are too many downsides to having illegal immigrants to list here.
Let me also add that those who believe the requirements for citizenship are too onerous are underestimating the value of American citizenship grossly. And possibly rightly so given how few rights and how many responsibilities are currently exclusively included in citizenship. Hopefully that will be changing.
Not one. Seven.
http://www.nassaucivic.com/U.S_Amnesties_for_Illegal_Aliens.htm
Why reinvent the wheel…???
They all had a pathway to citizenship to begin with…
They chose a different path…
Maybe they should retrace their steps and get back on the right path, where they went in the wrong direction in the first place…???
That’s the pathway to citizenship that already exists…
Sounds like you are talking about some sort of amnesty program or some sort of pardoning system…
Clemency…???
A magic wand…???
“Poof!”, “You are now an American…”
Not very realistic, Jebs…
Thar’s a false premise. How about allowing citizenship only to people who offer skills that benefit the country? Like most all of the rest of the world does? Many actually demand a person has a job ready for them before they are allowed to immigrate. Making people citizens for their convenience, for access to rights of citizens, only incentives migration by removing even the risk of deportation. It makes the problems of large influence of unskilled labor worse. It cheapens the value of citizenship even more that the attitude of not enforcing the laws does.
There obviously is no magic wage increase because a person is designated as “citizen.” An employer choses the person who will the required work for the least. Whether they are called citizen or not. “They” can demand all they want but, if a hundred, citizens or not, are standing in line for the job, the employer has the choice. Only when labor is not unlimited does labor have value.
maybe a little off topic…when I “immigrated” from Berkeley to Humboldt I had no job ready for me, but quickly found “employment” in exchange for room & board — no not growing…
Try moving to Mexico and demanding citizen rights.
You moved from one part of America to another and didn’t leave the state. It isn’t the same thing as crossing a border as an unvetted invader.
sorry…I sometimes get cranky when I’m tired…
How many immigrants illegally crossing the border into USA are demanding citizen rights?
I suspect not many. Most of the demands come from Americans with a political agenda served by such demands.
If people are here illegally, I think they should be deported. Go home and find what is required so you can come here legally and become a US citizen if that is what you want.
I just saw an article about decreased birth rate in the US.
The projected needed rate to replace the older generation is not being met.
Personally, I think this is a good thing. We have been looking at over population on the planet since I was young…
But there is an economic and labor need that a younger generation provides. (As part of the twentieth century baby boom, which is now aged, the need is obvious. Humboldt County is having a very difficult time finding In Home Support workers for the disproportionately large current elder population.)
Immigration provides relief from this scarcity of labor.
We should be encouraging immigrants to our shores to relieve the strain on labor.
It is only generationally imprinted RACISM that prevents our embracing those from other countries to join the cultural melting pot known as the United States.
European Americans traditionally embrace Christianity.
Many, however, have amnesia to Christian values – love thy neighbor; welcome the foreigner; feed the hungry – when their inbred racism overrides their conscience. Thus, we have these ICE thugs and those who support them.
Challenge your taught xenophobia.
Teach your children to abhor xenophobia and to be loving and open minded, open hearted.
Learn to embrace and relish diversity.
It’s not xenophobia or racism — it’s a rational concern about unvetted criminal noncitizens and those who ignore our immigration laws.
We welcome legal immigrants who follow the rules and assimilate into American society. Supporting ICE in removing illegal immigrants (including murderers, rapists, traffickers, etc.) isn’t “thuggery” — it’s about protecting our communities and upholding the rule of law.
Prioritizing vetted, legal immigration isn’t hatred. It’s common sense.
Ludicrous. No one needs to be “taught” xenophobia. Or racism. It is part of the DNA of tribes, ethnicity or any society. Without it, they cease to be a group of anything. Even your own words “European American”, while an deliberate insult to many Americans who don’t want to be subdivided by their ancestors places of origin, and insisting it comes hand in hand with Christianity, shows itself up as classifying people based on race. You insist on oikophobia because it serves your assertions.
Of course people should not “abhor” xenophobia if they want to remain a people. They should tolerate some diversity to avoid becoming stagnant. However you have successfully identified the mechanism to chaos- everyone but the majority gets to treasure their ethnicity while requiring condemning that of the majority. Hello? All diversity and no commonality has never created any stable culture. In fact can never even be a culture.
It’s such a relief that the majority of commenters are really old
What does that have to do with anything?
Think about it
Think about what it says about people who say such things.
Soon enough you will be old too. You could listen a bit and save yourself a few OMG-WHAT-WAS-I-THINKINGs by thinking about what we are saying.
https://xcancel.com/SenEricSchmitt/status/2045206968596410500#m
California is covering for criminals. Not punishing them. Not stopping them. Covering for them. The paper trail is bloodier and far worse than you could even imagine.
In Nov 2025, a number of illegal aliens were convicted in LA federal court for 6 savage murders – (details redacted so the editors aren’t upset).
Read through the Senator’s thread on X. In a nutshell the cartels are using remote areas in National parks to commit barbaric crimes.
Such selective memory loss for all these people demanding everyone else fund illegality. If the previous administration would have not allowed millions of ILLEGAL ALIENS to enter our sovereign country, none of this would be necessary. Sounds like the Centro Del Pueblo folks are trying to conjure up justification for their existence (and a big payday)
I resent one dime of taxpayer money including staffers and the public defender wages being paid for this. I resent even the idea of public funds being spent on things that are not for the public’s benefit. Paying for representation for folks who are here unlawfully is not for the public benefit. It is solely for the unlawfuls benefit. I have a better idea….the group should start a go fund me and let individuals contribute. And the county can fix potholes in our roads
Is this not an example of representation of the Will of the People by Government?
Not really. It’s an example of representation of the Will of the People in Governnent. Not at all the samevthing.
That’s what I meant. Thanks!
Can anyone remember the Humboldt County Board of Supervisors allocating taxpayer funds to provide free legal representation for growers targeted in federal marijuana raids?
Yeah… me either.