Deny!…Thomas v. County of Humboldt: The United States Supreme Court Says No to Hearing Seventh Amendment Claim

Notice to abate cannabis gavel feature 1It’s been three years since the Institute for Justice filed the class action lawsuit Thomas v. County of Humboldt, on behalf of local property owners facing cannabis abatements, and today the United States Supreme Court denied hearing one of five claims (pages 18-22) citing it is not the “proper vehicle” for incorporating the Seventh Amendment for reasons laid out in Humboldt County’s Brief in Opposition (pages 34-58). 

Reasons for Denying the Petition

Overview of reasons the case should be denied from Humboldt County’s legal team.

This federal class action suit challenges the constitutionality of Humboldt County’s satellite cannabis abatement program that began in the wake of cannabis legalization and saw rural “high cannabis concentration” communities issued  over 1200 abatement notices, hitting property owners with hundreds of thousands, even millions in fines for alleged cannabis violations. To date, Humboldt County has collected millions in fines and compliance agreement fees, but some property owners refused to sign county compliance agreements or pay fines. This group of hundreds of abated property owners is “the class” in the suit. 

Abatement totals and status as of September 2022, pre lawsuit, derived from a county public’s records request

Abatement totals and status as of September 2022, pre lawsuit, derived from a county public’s records request

The Institute for Justice wrote in their press release this “Denial does not affect IJ’s core case, which continues after a Ninth Circuit win striking down Humboldt County’s abusive fines process,” adding,

 While the Court declined to take up that specific constitutional question, despite a statement of support from Justice Gorsuch, the rest of the underlying case continues in the district court after a major victory in the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for property owners. The question of a civil jury trial was just one of the multiple ways that Humboldt’s code enforcement system violates the constitution—namely, that Humboldt’s program of levying tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars in daily-accruing fines against landowners remains deeply unconstitutional.

…In a statement on the denial of certiorari, Justice Neil Gorsuch emphasized that the right to a civil jury trial is a fundamental constitutional protection that deserves the Court’s attention. He wrote that “surely, those who founded our Nation considered the right to trial by jury a fundamental part of their birthright,” “so much so that they cited its deprivation at the hands of colonial authorities as one of the reasons for breaking ties with England.” He further emphasized that the “Court should confront its Seventh Amendment holding soon. A right ‘of such importance,’ one that ‘occupies so firm a place in our history,’ deserves no less.”

“Justice Gorsuch is right,” said IJ Senior Attorney Robert Johnson. “The right to a civil jury is a cornerstone of our liberty, and IJ will continue working to ensure that Americans don’t lose it simply because the government calls a proceeding ‘civil’ instead of ‘criminal.’ We will keep pressing this issue until the Court takes it up.

All hope is not lost for the plaintiffs. This US Supreme Court petition pertains to only one of the five claims in the overall lawsuit. The jury trial claim was rejected by the court of appeals because the Seventh Amendment is currently not incorporated to the states, essentially meaning this right only applies to federal cases. 

On the SCOTUS Blog, an independent website covering the U.S. Supreme Court, they summarized the case as follows,

Thomas v. Humboldt County, California … [argues] that the county’s administrative hearings deprive them of a jury. Specifically, they contend that the Supreme Court’s 1916 decision Minneapolis & St. Louis Railroad Co. v. Bombolis, which held that the Seventh Amendment – concerning jury trials – doesn’t bind the states, is an outdated relic from the era before the court began incorporating, or applying, the Bill of Rights against the states. “Friends of the court” who have filed briefs supporting the property owners include not only the Cato Institute and the Buckeye Institute, but also two founders of the Federalist Society, professors Steven Calabresi and Gary Lawson.

The county counters that the issue isn’t ripe for the Supreme Court’s review because Thomas won a partial victory on appeal and the case has been remanded for further proceedings, and that its administrative tribunals are appropriately resolving cases. The county argues that Bombolis remains good law and that respect for longstanding precedent and federalism counsel in favor of a denial. It further argues that even if the Seventh Amendment were incorporated against the states, the property owners’ actions would not warrant jury trials.”

Plaintiffs are devastated by the news today, mainly because they feel the US Supreme Court relied on Humboldt County’s law firm’s misrepresentations of them and misstatements of facts.

For example, the county alleges no permits were denied and the property owners were culpable for the abatements.

But the plaintiffs were in fact denied permits to remedy the abatements while the abatements are pending.

The plaintiffs also expressed disappointment in being painted as guilty or culpable when they say they are not guilty of anything but buying property once used for cannabis activities by previous owners.

Rhonda Olsen

Rhonda Olsen [Image from Nikki Norris]

One of the plaintiffs, Rhonda Olson, bought three neighboring Orleans properties in order to develop what she views as much needed affordable housing for the economically deprived region. But within a few weeks of her purchase, Olson received an abatement notice with fines of over eight million (later reduced to over seven million) for something she did not do—grow cannabis illegally. 

When asked how she felt when she received the notice, Olson said,

It is so ridiculous, the first day of fines is more than the property was worth. Here I am just trying to do something good for the community, and I mean what does the county expect from me? Seven million, really?! I can’t imagine why we wouldn’t get a jury trial with this kind of money at stake.

When Olson saw the abatement notices she says she promptly removed the prior owners empty pvc hoop house frames, she hired engineers, lawyers, and she felt she exhausted all legal remedies to comply with the county’s demands— but she was denied permits needed to correct the alleged violations, including issues based on legacy logging. 

An Email thread between Code Enforcement’s Warren Black and Rhonda Olson show the county’s practice of denying permits to remedy abatements while the abatement is pending

Email thread between Warren Black and Rhonda Olsen

An Email thread between Code Enforcement’s Warren Black and Rhonda Olson show the county’s practice of denying permits to remedy abatements while the abatement is pending.

In an email from Humboldt County Code Enforcement’s Warren Black to Olson he wrote,

I received your email…where you stated that the grading was done for a timber harvest plan. Unfortunately, the fact that the flats were used for cannabis cultivation is why the violation exists. For normal timber operations flats are permitted but the moment they are used for unpermitted cannabis cultivation they will need to be addressed by a licensed engineer…Just an FYI, no permits will be issued for properties with open Code Enforcement cases.

Olson faced the complete loss of all her properties and limited income, and felt without a legal remedy.

Olson continued saying,

When I first moved here people were building, they weren’t just surviving, it’s really sad what’s happened…now the county can just take your property and everything you have, and it makes no sense that I never got a chance to defend myself. The county went after me because I didn’t sign a compliance agreement with them. But the contract required me to admit I grew cannabis— when I didn’t. It required me to admit that I committed environmental crimes— which I didn’t,  and they required me to forfeit my right to sue— but I knew this was so wrong and so I said no. Now I’m stuck. I did everything I could to comply, but I wasn’t going to sign a contract saying I did things I didn’t do.

Back in 2023, McKinleyville-based federal Judge Robert Illman dismissed all five of the Institute for Justice’s claims without hearing any arguments (full dismissal here), essentially ruling (1) the plaintiffs don’t have a right to be in court because they either haven’t been harmed by receiving the abatement, or they waited too long to sue; and (2) even if the county is doing what the plaintiffs accuse them of doing, it doesn’t actually violate their Constitutional rights. 

The Institute for Justice then filed an appeal in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. After oral arguments were heard in April 2024, four of five claims won in the ninth circuit, and the case was then remanded, or sent back, to the district federal court’s Judge Illman, who was recently reappointed

Olson reflects on today’s news, saying,

We still have the court process in [McKinleyville] to go through. We should get to put on our case then. It is a disappointment, but I hope …the truth will come out in court. This loss is just a setback…we still have four other claims to argue.”

Screenshot of Humboldt County’s “BRIEF IN OPPOSITION TO PETITION FOR A WRIT OF CERTIORAR” which outlines the five claims raised in the case.

Screenshot of Humboldt County’s “BRIEF IN OPPOSITION TO PETITION FOR A WRIT OF CERTIORAR” which outlines the five claims raised in the case.

This case was poised to have national significance because the Seventh Amendment right to a jury trial has not been applied to state and local governments. 

Throughout this year, as the US Supreme Court considered hearing this case, debates ensued around the Thomas v. Humboldt County Supreme Court petition. Numerous legal scholars and lawyers debated the issue of incorporation of the Seventh Amendment.

Legal scholars were divided on the implications.

Sam Bray, a professor at Notre Dame, wrote that applying the Seventh Amendment to the states would be “folly,” adding,

[I]t would be a grave mistake to incorporate against the states the same civil jury trial right that applies against the federal government….There are strong originalist grounds for incorporating some of the Bill of Rights (albeit not through the Due Process Clause). But the originalist argument for incorporation is unusually weak for the civil jury trial right. Essentially all states have civil jury trial rights…[the] incorporation of the civil jury trial right would be a neutron bomb … It would likely require jury trials in many cases that now are resolved by [other] court[s], with destabilizing effects on its jurisprudence and on the corporate law economy of the United States.

Steve Calabresi, a professor at Northwestern and former Dean at Yale disagreed. He wrote about the history and importance of this Seventh Amendment case in Reason, a publication of the Libertarian think tank of the same name , stating,

The Bill of Rights was originally enacted in 1791 to constrain Congress; protections against state overreach were left to state constitutions. But the Fourteenth Amendment was created to provide federal protection against state power; and since the Civil War, the Court has held (through a process called “incorporation”) that nearly all the Bill of Rights applies to the states via the Fourteenth Amendment…The right to civil jury trial was among the three civil rights most deeply rooted in American history and tradition at the time of the framing of the federal Bill of Rights along with the right to criminal jury trial and the right to the free exercise of religion.

Today, only two of the provisions of the Bill of Rights have not yet been incorporated. 

Calabresi explains,

The right to civil jury trial …is by far and away the most important right in the Bill of Rights that has not yet been incorporated; the other two unincorporated rights are the Third Amendment’s protection against the quartering of soldiers in peoples’ homes (a practice that no longer happens) and the right to indictment by a grand jury (which is meaningless since prosecutors can persuade grand juries to indict even “a ham sandwich“).”

Calabresi continued to detail in Reason,

Cases like Thomas v. County of Humboldt, which involve a dispute between the government and a private citizen, where petitioners are challenging millions of dollars of fines assessed against impoverished litigants in administrative proceedings by the government with no right to a civil jury trial, show that incorporation of the Seventh Amendment is as urgent as was incorporation of the Excessive Fines Clause in Timbs v. Indiana, 586 U.S. 146 (2019)… A continuing failure by the Supreme Court to incorporate the civil jury trial right against the States would thus be an embarrassing omission from the Court’s caselaw given that this right is even more deeply rooted in American history and tradition than are almost any other right including especially the right to own a gun for one’s own self-defense…The case for the incorporation of the Seventh Amendment is much stronger than was the case for the incorporation of the Second Amendment.” 

Jared McClain is one of the lead attorneys on the case for the Institute for Justice. 

McClain argued to the US Supreme Court,

[Humboldt County] urges [The Supreme Court] to simply wait and incorporate the civil- jury right later. And it’s no wonder. For places like Humboldt, juryless enforcement actions are big business. The longer the court waits to decide the incorporation question, the longer these governments can profit from their deprivation of fundamental rights.

Initially, Humboldt County did not respond to the Institute for Justice’s petition, but in June the US Supreme Court requested a response. 

In that response filed in July, Humboldt County’s legal team wrote, 

Petitioners’ attempts to portray themselves as innocent victims of Humboldt’s code-enforcement regime blink reality… rather all were directly responsible for the significant code violations on their properties, or brought their properties with knowledge of these violations, perhaps seeking bargain real estate rather than rush to impose and collect penalties, the record reflects the county attempted to achieve voluntary compliance for years.

Plaintiff Corrine Thomas, a Southern CA fire refuge who purchased her Miranda property with hopes to retire peacefully in the redwood forest with her family, explained,

Many homeowners like my husband and I were abated and given excessive fines for properties we purchased not knowing the previous homeowner had been illegally growing cannabis, nor that we would be held liable. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that “actual notice” was not given to purchasers like us. Though we went through escrow and Title, and there was no record of illegal cannabis use or an abatement. Our realtor never indicated an issue either. We feel like Humboldt County [“laid in wait”]for two years until we purchased the property only to abate us at $12000.00 a day for ninety days.  Jury trial or not, the Institute for Justice is preparing for litigation that will open up these abuses by the County of Humboldt, and will trigger reform and fairness to the residents of not only Humboldt County, but all the states in the Nine Circuit Court of Appeals. In response to the Supreme Court petition, the County changed some of their Codes, hoping to avoid the lawsuit. Their changes were vague and didn’t address all the issues in our lawsuit. Therefore, the Institute for Justice has started the litigation process and Warren Black will be deposed on October 14.

After an article “Punished for another Crimes” was published here detailing the Thomas’s case, the article was featured in the Humboldt County Supervisor’s meeting on March 23, 2022. In that meeting the county changed their policy which required current owners to demolish structures once used for alleged cannabis activities. 

Humboldt County’s legal team wrote about this policy change to the Supreme Court stating, “In March 2022, the county advised the Thomas’s of a new policy, offering property owners, a path to permit, illicit cannabis structures, avoiding demolition, by providing a restoration plan describing a lawful, non-cannabis use for a structure.”

This was not the only law change pertaining to the cannabis abatement program. In July 9, 2025, the day before Humboldt County’s lawyers filed their response to the US Supreme Court, the abatement program policies were also changed “to better reflect existing processes and to set appropriate boundaries on the assessment of administrative civil penalties to reflect the intent of existing ordinances, and to prevent misunderstandings of that intent,” according to a staff report.

Screenshot of the Humboldt County staff report that details the changes to their abatement program 

Screenshot of the Humboldt County staff report that details the changes to their abatement program

The Supreme Court agrees to hear only a small fraction of the petitions it receives each year — typically fewer than one percent — underscoring the rarity of a case being accepted for review. 

The remaining four claims are awaiting trial before Judge Illman, after a win in the Ninth Circuit.

Although the majority of the cannabis industry has dried up in Humboldt County, and the cannabis abatement program as we once knew it has ceased, this lawsuit continues to be significant to property owners who challenge past enforcement actions.

Institute for Justice Attorney Jared McClain wrote in the press release,

No one should face life-altering fines without the protection of a jury of their peers…The Supreme Court’s decision not to take this case doesn’t change the fact that Humboldt’s scheme of crushing ordinary people under massive penalties for minor code issues is still unconstitutional—whether the fines are brought before a jury or not. We’ll continue fighting to stop it….IJ will continue litigating Thomas v. Humboldt County in federal court to vindicate its clients’ property rights and ensure that local governments cannot use ruinous fines to punish or control ordinary Americans.”

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Mariahgirl
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8 months ago

I want to see ford gets what is coming to him. I want to see him lose his job for screwing so many people over!

Truth Be Told
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Truth Be Told
8 months ago
Reply to  Mariahgirl

Your ire is misplaced — Ford was only doing what he was directed to do by the Supervisors.

And here we are three years into a complex, convoluted court case where the only sure winners are the lawyers on both sides and the biggest loser is likely to be the County.

Has anyone done a PRA to find out how much the County has paid for outside legal help?

Also, the County will likely be on the hook for the IJ’s legal fees.

The abatements brought in millions but the attorney fees are likely to equal a big chunk of that — and it’s possible a court could order a refund of abatement fees and penalties.

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that's funny
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that's funny
8 months ago
Reply to  Truth Be Told

“Just doing my job” is never an excuse.

Truth Be Told
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Truth Be Told
8 months ago
Reply to  that's funny

Nice try at deflection but that’s not what I said.

And at the risk of provoking the proverbial wailing and gnashing of teeth I’ll point out the Humboldt County abatement program has not been ruled illegal by any court either in whole or in part — but with any luck at all in a year and a half or so we might have a verdict — which will then be appealed…

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
8 months ago
Reply to  Truth Be Told

The ninth circuit ruled it was unconstitutional. A decision about the eight amendment claim was also published.

Truth Be Told
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Truth Be Told
8 months ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

You’re better informed than I but didn’t the 9th Circuit void the District Court decision, grant the IJ appeal on 4 of the 5 claims and remand the case to the District Court for trial?

Has there been a final ruling on the abatement program?

CsMisadventures
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CsMisadventures
8 months ago
Reply to  Truth Be Told

The “devil made me do it” is a bit of a cop out and a cover for carelessness or irresponsibility. He still could have raised objections to his minders.

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Truth Be Told
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Truth Be Told
8 months ago

More deflection — that’s not what I said — and as I stated in my reply to that’s funny no court has ruled any part of the program illegal.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
8 months ago
Reply to  Truth Be Told

Again the ninth circuit court of appeals ruled on behalf of abated property owners n all four claims except the jury trial.

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Truth Be Told
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Truth Be Told
8 months ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

The 9th Circuit reinstated the case and ruled in favor of the plaintiffs going to trial on 4 of the 5 claims but I’m not aware of the 9th Circuit making a final ruling on the merits of the case.

Did I miss it?

Farce
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Farce
8 months ago

Why would he do that? He left for another county and our Supervisors begged him to come back and gave him a raise and bonuses. They really really wanted him to do what he did. And he did what they wanted. For fat salary. They all destroyed the value of rural properties. Hmm…now who benefits from that? Well …logging companies or other coalitions of real estate investors wishing to pick up properties at rock bottom prices would be my first guess….Now do you think our esteemed supervisors and John Ford would ever do their dirty work and screw the little rural land people? Hmm….YES!!

Actually
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Actually
8 months ago
Reply to  Truth Be Told

“We abate properties every week! Heck I just bought one!” Rex Bohn at the soups meeting involving tee haw. No rules seem to apply to them especially conflict of interest.

Truth Be Told
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Truth Be Told
8 months ago
Reply to  Actually

Bohn is the personification of conflict of interest.

Mariahgirl
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8 months ago
Reply to  Truth Be Told

Where is the millions that the county has collected?

Truth Be Told
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Truth Be Told
8 months ago
Reply to  Mariahgirl

I believe the millions in abatement fines went into the General Fund and were spent for GF purposes — the amount of the fines received was tabulated but the money was not kept in a separate account.

Kicking Bull
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Kicking Bull
8 months ago
Reply to  Truth Be Told

I wrote about this back then 2019ish
That year 8 mil came in abatements
2mil went to “planning”
2mil to “future planning”
2mil to “cannabis planning”
the last 2 lost to increasingly loquacious language, likewise any further insight into what this “planning” was was lost in the pages upon pages to read thru (planning dept site) with no further detail to be found. I think they spent 2mil on a writing team told to bury anything of substance.

Farce
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Farce
8 months ago
Reply to  Truth Be Told

Correction- it is not The County who pays. It is WE the taxpayers who pay and pay and pay.

Calling All Idiots!
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Calling All Idiots!
8 months ago
Reply to  Mariahgirl

Oh the county is involved…Idiot ALERT!

Justin Johnson
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Justin Johnson
8 months ago

TheThomases were never advised of ‘new path “ to to permit the structure” The Thomases do not grow or smoke cannabis. Even more important, the County raided the property in 2018 and did not abate the property. Instead the County waited until new, innocent Buyers went through Title and Escrow, and one week later abated the property. The lawsuit with Humboldt County still exists, albeit without a jury trial, and the County is going to be cautious this time in the ruling. Officers in Code Enforcement will be deposed as witnesses, and the truth will come out: That the County of Humboldt has overstepped their power and hurt innocent Americans in this County.

Laytonvillain
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Laytonvillain
8 months ago

Burn down the cane fields.

Doug Thomas
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Doug Thomas
8 months ago

The right to a jury trial, the seventh amendment of the constitution, Inalienable right. That cannot be surrender, transferred, or revoked. Cannot be taken away. How can anyone expect to see justice, when your public servants (the government) have stopped you from enjoying one of your rights. Where is the justice.

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
8 months ago

Nichole Norris,

“Therefore, the Institute for Justice has started the litigation process and Warren Black will be deposed on October 14.”

-Plaintiff Corrine Thomas-

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Is that happening today…???

It kind of sounds like it…

I’d be very interested in what Warren Black “had to say”…

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Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
8 months ago
Reply to  The Real Guest

Yes as we speak Black is being deposed by IJ. The case is FAR from over and this is evidence of that fact.

I am still going through this with a fine tooth comb, but I finally had a moment to go through the filings and reasoning a bit more since we published.

Here are some lingering Thoughts on the misrepresentations in the Thomases case specifically (there are misrepresentations in all cases, some featured in the article) that were taken as fact by the USSC.

1. The “Neighbor complaints” were on the Bulgarian llc crew that ran a huge operation there until 2019. The Thomases bought the property in 2021 and they are adored by their neighbors. (Forgive the double 1.)

  1. The Power to the barn was cut before they bought the property, Thomases have photos.The photos of the Thomases barn were from the raid in 2018 and 2019, years before they bought the property. So the county was complicit for years in enabling this million dollars worth violation and public nuisance.” Why didn’t the county abate in 2018 or 2019 if it was such a health and safety hazard?
  2. There’s a 2022 law change misrepresentation, our story on the Thomases directly caused the law change. The Thomases say they were never offered that path from the county either.
  3. Appeal hearings- I worked on these case for the law office of Eugene Denson and can say without a doubt we applied for a hearing in every case, but were denied for years. Blu for example was denied a hearing from 2018-2022 and was only offered a reasonable deal because someone leaked the lawsuit filing to the county. After almost five years of Blu waiting for a resolution, myself and ED personally negotiating with Warren Black and Bib Russell, we found the county wouldn’t give up their compliance agreements and 10-30k in fines. the county finally gave Blu an offer to settle a week or so before the suit was filed.
  4. Ripeness – ONE WEEK after the Thomases purchase they were abated, and they began a legal effort within in week. The Thomases didn’t even own the property in time to sue before the statute of limitations expired. If I recall off the top of my head it’s two years since the ordinance passed (2017). This makes zero sense to me.

Overall this decision in my opinion has a ton to do with the ongoing “devil weed” narratives and Demonization of cannabis. I had false hope this Supreme Court would be more pro property rights than anti weed propaganda that was featured in the opposition brief, and they disappointingly fell victim of. Just like commenters on my articles the past five years, some folks just cannot see past the word “cannabis” without assigning guilt to all involved irrespective of their innocence.

There is certainly more to come, I’m relieved in many ways to be back in the Ninth Circuit.

Will the real yabut please stand up
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Will the real yabut please stand up
8 months ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

I have been looking at the other end of the administrative process by the overseeing entities guidance, policies/laws, and the lawful structure that oversees board of supervisors as a whole. I found not only the county codes fail to comply with administrative law requirements regarding code enforcement officers,and education requirements to be specified therein, the timely granting of administrative hearings , just for a few of the findings. Not to mention the assessment of property owners ability to pay fines before they are applied in abatements.
I know the county still requires property owners to abate a nuisance while simultaneously barring said owners from accessing the property physically. As well as declaring violations to exist with out any evidentiary documentation (pictures or other means like testing results) . They bring in companies to complete an abatement that is not completed as required in abatement orders. Demolish structures not in abatement orders.Destroy cement pads fruit trees,and other items on properties.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
8 months ago

Are you speaking about cannabis abatements or traditional? It’s a whole different set of rules from my experience.

Truth Be Told
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Truth Be Told
8 months ago

Since you know all these things please provide the parcel numbers, dates of occurrence and documentary evidence.

Otherwise your post is pure bs.

Doug Thomas
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Doug Thomas
8 months ago

The county says, because there was a plant grown in a building, the building has to be destroyed. So why does a bank that has been robbed not have to be destroyed? It’s not about the pot, it’s only that you did not pay their extortion fee. It was never about good, bad, or safe or not safe, it was only about them getting more of our money.

Zhevi’s Folly
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Zhevi’s Folly
8 months ago
Reply to  Doug Thomas

who are ‘them’, are ‘them’ in the room with us now? It’s not about getting the money, it’s about making sure u dont have anything of value. It’s gatekeeping quality of life, thus ensuring the Northern California water table don’t ever gain political independence from ‘them’

I am a robot
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I am a robot
8 months ago

This:

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Johnydeps
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Johnydeps
8 months ago

These properties aren’t worth anywhere close to the abatement amounts anyway what does the county think they’ll gain here? Nobody has money to pay these fines and nobody will buy these properties if they’re seized and auctioned off

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
8 months ago
Reply to  Johnydeps

Yeah many consider the properties a liability. Bohn did say he bought abated properties though so there is value to someone, perhaps loggers? I’m not sure how we lost this photo but these are the abatement policy changes made at the supervisors meeting July 8 2025 that pertain to the fine amounts etc.

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Ullr Rover
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8 months ago

The fact that this kind of bureaucratic overreach can be pushed on US citizens is a travesty of liberty. Trial by jury of your peers as the last stop gap to insure politicians don’t impose spurious laws on the People is a fundamental Natural Right and is not granted by the Constitution, it is only enumerated.