Penalties, Costs, Fines, and Fees: A Deep Look at the Humboldt County Cannabis Abatement Process

This is Part 3 in a series on Humboldt County Planning and Building Department’s Abatement Program by Nichole Norris–Part 1 is an example of a “Unresolved Notices – Pending Resolution” case, and Part 2 an example of a notice with “Case Closed – Abated, No Admin Civil Penalty.” 

Marijuana in a unpermitted greenhouse with other plants. [Photo by Kym Kemp]

Marijuana in a small, unpermitted greenhouse with other plants. [Crop of a 2012 photo by Kym Kemp]

[UPDATE at 12:45 p.m.: We discovered Saturday morning that when we imported information from the county into an Excel document, it deleted a number of permits. The information about abatements remains correct. However, the number of permits initially reported was incorrect. The error did  not change the rest of the numbers–only the permit numbers. We have corrected the error and apologize for our mistake. Please note also that a larger number of permits are found on the CalCannabis. But the numbers of the permits we use are derived from Humboldt County’s Planning and Building Department. We are attempting to understand why those numbers differ. Meanwhile, areas in blue indicate changes to the information.]

Three years into legalization, the globally renowned mecca for cannabis cultivation and culture, Humboldt County, California has about two times as many notices to abate illegal cannabis cultivation as the County has cannabis cultivation permits–about three times that if you include the 470 abatement warning letters.

Timeline of abatematesThe first “Notice to Abate a Nuisance” and “Notice of Violation” for cultivating cannabis without a permit was posted May 24, 2017; the most recent that we know of was posted March 17, 2020. In less than three years, the abatement program is set to collect at least $4,707,086.45 from Humboldt County property owners in penalties, costs, fines, and fees.  (This does not include 12 $900,000 Property Liens which have not been finalized, totaling $10.8 million. We will cover this topic in an upcoming story). Some of those residents snared may have caused egregious damage to the environment and some may have been growing small vegetable plots. (Note: these numbers are derived from the 969 cases that we gathered through a Freedom of Information request to the County of Humboldt in March, one additional case was discovered in a separate Freedom of Information Request from November. There may be more that we did not discover.)

Survivors of Legalization:

Before legalization, an estimated 10,000-30,000 marijuana farms were scattered over the hills and in the backyards and garages of homes countywide.

Salmon Creek and Redwood Creek [There are two Redwood Creeks in the study. One in northern and one in southern Humboldt] cultivation sites

Estimated grows and greenhouses in the Salmon Creek and Redwood Creek areas of Southern Humboldt as seen in this 2015 map created by the Department of Fish and Wildlife. [Please note these were not confirmed grows but we show it to give an idea of the number of grows estimated in one small area of Humboldt County. Study from here.]

Since late 2015, about 2,500 applicants in Humboldt County sought cannabis related permits but few of the original growers have made it through the process. A number of those who applied for permits received abatement notices after falling out of the permit process–mainly due to what the County describes as “inactivity.”

According to Executive Secretary Suzanne Lippre of the Humboldt County Planning and Building Department, as of February 2020, there are only 448 approved cannabis cultivation related permits on file for Humboldt County.  A number of permits belong to the same owner. For instance, one person and their related business holds at least eleven of the cannabis cultivation and other related permits.

Humboldt-County-Cannabis-Equity-Assessment

Note: To the west of Myers Flat, there are an estimated 16-29 applicants in what would likely include the Salmon Creek/Redwood Creek area. The 2015 study map above shows hundreds of grows in just a small portion of that area. [Graphic from the Humboldt County Cannabis Equity Assessment]

Most of the 2500 permit applicants have abandoned their applications, some have since been abated, and others have fled the area leaving behind empty homesteads and forcing some small non-cannabis businesses to close or cut back as the money from those farms no longer feeds the economic engine of Humboldt County.

The Struggle:

The stated plan of the County for the cannabis abatement program was to remove growers who caused environmental damage and get people to come into the permit process. District Two Supervisor Estelle Fennel spoke about the aim of the abatement program at a Civil Liberties Monitoring Project “Community in Crisis” meeting on August 23, 2018, she responded to a question about “excessive fines” saying,

The [fines] are to get people to do the abatement rather than tag it along because that’s what they would do …(MM 2.44) …I want the maximum number of people, especially the people who care about this land, the water, the trees, I want those people to feel like they can stay here and continue, I don’t care a whip about someone who came here to make money on a big farm. (M.M. -Minute Marker–19)

However, the cost and complexity of the permit process inherently favors larger farmers over smaller cultivators, and, as many former growers have claimed, the process favors those who are not afraid of damaging the environment to make a profit over those who grew small, environmentally sound gardens. Only 86 farms with 5000 square feet and under have gotten permits. The majority of permits have gone to those cultivating 10,000 square feet and greater (252 total).

marijuana garden

Small terraced marijuana garden interspersed with vegetables. [Photo from late fall 2009 by Kym Kemp]

Even Humboldt County’s Planning and Building Department’s Director John Ford appeared to acknowledge this when he stated at a Civil Liberties Monitoring Project “Community in Crisis” meeting at the Mateel Community Center on August 23, 2018, “A lot of the [properties] that would appear to be egregious violations also have permits on them.” (M.M 50)

A recent survey conducted by researchers with UC Berkeley’s Cannabis Research Center also found that unclear regulatory frameworks and inconsistencies between State and County policies posed a major barrier to compliance for small-scale farmers in particular. 

It is sometimes assumed that farmers who are not in compliance could get a permit, and they just choose to go without one. However, the prohibitive cost and complexity of the cannabis cultivation permit process are rarely considered. Cannabis is likely more regulated, enforced and taxed than any other agricultural industry in the State of California.  The physical environmental site requirements for permitting and licensing by various state, regional, and local agencies are unparalleled, often costing hundreds of thousands of dollars. Furthermore, the costs are often unknown until you pay for permit applications and hire various experts.

old culvert featured in restoration plan

Old culvert featured in restoration plan. [Photo provided by an abated landowner who said it cost her over $280,000 to resolve her abatement.]

These site requirements can include restoration of prior logging and other non-cannabis industry legacies, new sensitive habitat research, as well as water related issues that the property owners sometimes did not personally cause and are unable to afford to fix (such as replacing culverts). Some cultivation sites even require airspace variance approval, military training route GIS verification, and more.

Cecilia Landman spoke about the complexities she discovered with the water aspect of cannabis cultivation permits at the August 23, 2018 “Community in Crisis” CLMP meeting,

I’m here to tell you as a person who has organized battles over logging,…[organized] two statewide ballot initiatives, I’m here to tell you that I, as a lay person, cannot deal with the application process…

Right now we have to report and deal with five separate agencies over the same source of water. You have to file enrollment with the water quality board. You have to do your statement of diversion of use. You have to do small domestic use. You have to do small irrigation use and you have to be reviewed by the Department of Fish and Wildlife. And, you think a person can do that on their own?

That’s five different reports per year for each one of those registrations, for the same source of water, for the same water being stored. It’s insane.

What many non-growers didn’t realize is that the cultivator going through the permitting process has become a means of upgrading rural infrastructure, including roads for neighboring parcels. According to the Humboldt County Cannabis Equity Assessment,

[Cultivators] are the victims of a regulatory cannabis framework with extraordinarily high economic and regulatory barriers to entry. Those barriers are directly financial, in terms of taxes and licensing, but also reflect the high cost of becoming compliant with county codes. Those codes are not just environmental, but for upgrading rural infrastructure that has not seen public investment since the logging boom.

The complexities and immense costs involved are reportedly the primary inhibitors to undertaking the permitting process for small growers especially, not a lack of desire to comply on behalf of property owners. This is indicated in the size of permitted farms and the number of property owners who paid for a permit and fell out of compliance.

Past Conflicts Add to the Tension:

In addition, a history of conflict between the cannabis community and the Planning and Building Department isn’t helping the situation. It wasn’t long ago those working with the Planning and Building Department brought guns to code enforcement actions.

A North Coast Journal article from April 24, 2008 described the mood of the times. “People were furious, and scared,” the article stated. “And it was happening in all the rural areas of the county — everybody had heard, by now, the report from the hippie-communal property near Trinidad, called Yee Haw, where a sheriff’s deputy on a code enforcement inspection was said to have pointed a gun at a woman and her babies.”

The conflict between the Planning Department and cultivators has historically led to growers (and rural residents) opting out of the system entirely. In 1988, during a Humboldt County Supervisor’s Code Enforcement Hearing, Lary* Carpenter spoke about his experience with Humboldt County Code Enforcement, 

Below is a portion of the same statement transcribed:

There was a red tag on [my] lean-to… We decided…we’d go into the Building Department and find out what was happening…we ran into just hassle after hassle. So we said that’s it….We’re not cooperating anymore, take us to jail. We’re not coming back. We’re gonna go ahead and build whatever we want to build.

That’s been my advice to all my neighbors– is to not cooperate, because it might be easier for you to bring us to jail, than it would be for us to cooperate with the Building Department.

That sentiment still resonates with many rural Humboldt County residents, who, as a result, often live in unpermitted homes. The willingness to buck the system contributes to a thriving black market or, as many growers call it, the underground or traditional market. 

Abatements:

The County wields abatement letters like a stick to bring black market growers into the legal market. But the stick often smacks the small cultivator who has minimal impact on the land as hard as it strikes the large grower who may have many environmental impacts. The stick may even strike someone who wasn’t growing marijuana at all.

Cannabis abatement letter Humboldt County

Notice to abate. [Photo posted in Redheaded Blackbelt’s comment section on June 24, 2018.]

Falsely Accused:

A number of people caught up in the abatement process have claimed that they were not cultivating cannabis.

However, Director Ford stated at the Board of Supervisors meeting March 3, 2020, “There have been very few cases of false positives, there are only two or three that I am aware of.”

During an April 8, 2020 KMUD Civil Liberties Hour, Director Ford appeared with host Bonnie Blackberry who brought up Ford’s claim saying, “You said you just remembered two or three [false positives]. Is Code Enforcement keeping track of false positives?”…

Ford responded, “We haven’t been [keeping track] but that’s actually not necessarily a bad idea.”

Blackberry added, “I think it would be a really good idea, because I think there are a lot more people than you realize who have had this happen to them.” 

She pointed out that during a pandemic “having a garden and growing your own food should be encouraged. Instead we have your department targeting small greenhouses, associated with homes… .” She continued, “I know people that don’t want to put up little hoop houses for their starts for their vegetable gardens because they are too afraid they are going to have to go through the whole abatement process.”

Abatement case status2

According to the information we received from the Department, of the 969 abatement cases, about 6% (or 58 cases) are labeled “Case Closed – Notices Rescinded.” The FOI request response does not make it clear as to why the notices were rescinded. (We are awaiting another FOI request.) But, it seems likely a decent portion of those would be false positives in addition to some with cases unresolved and resolved.

Small Size Doesn’t Protect the Grower From Abatement Notices:

Cultivation Area Distribution2During the same April 8, 2020 KMUD Civil Liberties Hour, Blackberry asked Ford, “At one point, probably a year ago or so, you said you weren’t going to go after ma [and pa] 20′ x 30′  greenhouses and I’m wondering what changed?”

Ford responded, “So if we’ve gone after those,…I am interested…in knowing about that because frankly last year’s [2019] direction was nothing under 6,000 square feet.”

Blackberry replied, “Well, then, you’ve got a problem, because…uh… that’s what’s going on.” [Below is the audio clip of this exchange. See kmud.org/archives for the full CLMP show.]

Data from a Freedom of Information request this reporter made to the Humboldt County Planning and Building Department supports Blackberry’s claim. Of the 969 abatement notices we received information about, only 292 properties have alleged cannabis cultivation square footage details listed. Alleged garden areas ranged from 160 sq. ft. to 95,828 sq. ft. and averaged 11,260 sq. ft. 12%  36% of the 292 abated properties that listed square foot cultivation areas were 6,000 square feet and less. 12 % of the properties that were sent notices were 2,000 sq. ft. or less.

Cultivation Area Distribution3

Penalties and Fines for Small Cultivators:

The County’s stated position is that a small cultivator could face little or no financial punishment if abated. Director Ford explained at the March 3rd, 2020 Board of Supervisors Meeting,

The fines aren’t a necessary outcome. If a property owner on a small site can stop cultivating, remove the cannabis infrastructure, and restore the site, there are no fines and penalties associated. In some circumstances the amount of grading, the amount of infrastructure that’s on the site that cannot be done in 10 days–that’s a situation where a compliance agreement is offered which comes with a one day fine.”

When reviewing the violations for the 227 compliance agreement signers, this reporter discovered that 175 had alleged “grading without a permit” violations while 52 people had no grading violations at all. Eight of those 227 property owners were said to have had cannabis only as a violation. Twelve cases listed using an RV as a residence as an additional violation. Three had junk vehicles cited. Eleven had outhouse/sewage violations. There were 23 compliance agreement signers who were cited for streamside management area development. Nine were cited for improper disposal of solid waste and two had violations for lighting up the night skies (aka not covering a lit greenhouse).

Ford said that of the 972 abatement notices sent, “463 of those were resolved without any fines or penalties. That’s 47% of all notices sent out resolved without fines or penalties.” (While Ford used the number 972, this reporter only initially discovered 969 notices of abatement and used that to create the data used in this article. However, since then we have discovered one more.)

The Freedom of Information request we filed backs Director Ford’s claim.

However, this isn’t the whole story. When cases “have been resolved without fines and penalties” that does not mean that there is no cost associated with the abatement. There are two classifications of expenses at stake for abatement recipients,

  1. The fine or penalty (aka $10,000 daily fines) and,
  2. The costs of experts, legal representation, restoration, permits, Planning Dept. administrative fees, and Hearing Officer expenses where applicable.

A case that is classified as “Case Closed No Admin Civil Penalties” still can have  immense costs to property owners. A landowner in a case we covered closely in an earlier story claimed it cost her and her family over $280,000 to meet the County’s requirements.

And, in addition to being required to fix what may be legacy issues handed down from previous owners, the landowner has to pay for the cost of the Planning Department’s work on their case. According to our request, the “Total Admin Recovery Cost Bill” for all abatement recipients listed is $722,287.53. The average administrative cost for the 969 cases we received information on is $745.39. It is not made clear in the FOI request response from the County if this total administrative bill has been paid in full by the recipients yet and how much of that was paid by small cultivators, ie were their costs disproportionately high for their size? (Note: John Ford was not responsive to this reporter’s attempts for an interview at his convenience.)

All Abatements:

Beyond just the small cultivators (and those for whom there is no evidence of cultivation), those who have been served abatement notices still must deal with the ponderous movement of a department not known for being speedy.

While we discovered about 48% of cases are categorized as “closed” of the 969 reviewed, at least 236 or 24% of notice recipients are still facing potential daily penalties of $16,771.19 on average while their cases are left unresolved or have notices pending. This has left some to wonder why the 470 abatement warning letters went out in November 2019, if the Department still has so many cases left unresolved. (See Part 1 for an example)

Only about 58 properties or 6% have finished their compliance agreements and 168 property owners or 17% are paying down compliance agreements. Of the 227 compliance agreement signers, the average penalty is $16,506.38. About 4% of notice recipients are in various stages in the lien assessment and appeal hearing processes. Twelve of these properties have $900,000 liens approved by the Board of Supervisors each, which still may be appealed.
Violations, Penalties, and Fines

Environmental Concerns:

One of the biggest hopes for legalization was that growers prone to egregious environmental damage would be stopped and our land and water protected from degradation. However, the County’s record on this is mixed. And, different people may come to widely differing conclusions about whether, for instance, living in an RV on a remote piece of property is a valid reason for society to step in and regulate the situation.

Like Larry Carpenter describing his altercation over his lean-to with the Planning Department in the video above, many rural residents may feel the government is overstepping their need to protect the community as a whole. Some locals have reported an incongruity with the intention of the abatement program and its real life effects, questioning whether increased enforcement is serving the environment.

Other residents–frustrated by trash, light and sound pollution, grading, logging, water impacts, and other issues–may wish for a higher level of enforcement.

Here is selection of screengrabs of photos taken by law enforcement at one property abated in August of 2017 out Hwy 36. (Note: all images have had the apn and address removed.)

  • Construction without permits2[Photo from an abated property 32787 Hwy 36 Bridgeville on August 2, 2017]

Abatement Hearings Continue During the COVID-19 Crisis:

There are six abatement hearings in various stages of the appeals process. Each property owner was initially asked for $435,000-$900,000 in penalties at their hearings. Attorney Eugene Denson** reports that decisions for his abatement appeal hearings are being processed through the COVID-19 pandemic.

Even considering the lack of accessibility of the permit process in Humboldt County during the crisis, the cannabis cultivation abatement program continues to move ahead with many farmers not only unable to participate in legal cultivation, but at least 24% of abatement recipients are left with cases unresolved, fearing that they owe more than their properties are worth in penalties, costs, fines, and fees.

*Note: Although the video, spells Mr. Carpenter’s first name as “Larry,” the spelling he used was “Lary.”

**Note: This reporter worked for Attorney Eugene Denson.

The numbers in our story have been reviewed by Chauncy Quam from The UC Berkeley Cannabis Research Center, research assistant for Michael Polson, postdoctoral fellow in the Department of Environmental Science, Policy and Management at UC Berkeley. We want to thank them for their kind assistance and recommend that everyone look at the results they compiled of a survey filled out in part by cannabis cultivators in our area. https://www.icfa.farm/crcreport 

Another very big thank you to KMUD Community Radio for allowing access to the KMUD archive for the Civil Liberties Monitoring Project “Community in Crisis” Meeting at the Mateel Community Center on August 23, 2018. If you would like a full copy of the over 3 hour meeting, email [email protected].

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Guest
3 years ago

I still am appalled at what our supervisors have done to the small farming families. While the millionaires walked through the permitting process with ease.

P*** W*******
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P*** W*******
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Get angry , and protest…

As long as you pay your taxes, you are supporting the abatement of a way of life.

I’m not condoning destructive practices, but there are MILLIONS OF PEOPLE OUT OF WORK.

FREE THE WEED, AND

FREE THE PEOPLE…

OR JUST KEEP WATCHING YOUR ABILITY TO EXERCISE INHERENT AUTHORITY OVER YOUR LAND AND LIFE…SLOWLY FADE AWAY.

Hum local.
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Hum local.
3 years ago
Reply to  P*** W*******

Get estelle out.
She is killing the small backbone of our community.
Look at the charts railroading small growers while permitting the people that were causing the problems.

JAY
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JAY
3 years ago
Reply to  P*** W*******

Outstanding response. Its simple LOGIC…

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  JAY

Just like everything, it’s all about money

Alf
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Alf
3 years ago

I used to work with a company that did cleanups of grows that were shut down. One thing that was always true was the comple lack of personal responsibility in keeping the place clean. The residence areas looked like a homeless camp on steroids. The trailers, tents, etc were filthy. There was usually food trash like cans, ruined pots, pans,dishes etc. Spread all over. There was grow garbage, everything from old broken down greenhouses to generators to hundreds of fertilizer bags, soil bags and grow bags. There was no end to the piles of discarded used grow soil. There was almost always abandoned vehicles and trailers. One time we cleaned up a residential grow site. The back yard was their dump. They were renters and the property owner wanted the mess cleaned up. Even while we were there cleaning up, the tenant/grower kept opening the kitchen window and throwing trash out into the yard. One time he didn’t look at where he was throwing and threw a pizza box out and hit me. Thankfully it was a pizza box he threw that time.

I never saw a single grow site that showed even a little bit of effort to keep things neat and clean. It was all about raking in big money. If it wasn’t taking care of the crop, it wasn’t their job. I don’t believe for a minute there are very many growers who care any more than these guys did. I believe it is possible there are some responsible growers, but the ones who aren’t I say abate and good riddance. Maybe they should spend their jail/prison term in a dump instead of a cushy cell. They would likely feel more at home there.

Diesel
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Diesel
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf

And that is a true example of egregious, but they aren’t all like that

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf

For once I agree with Alf. Growers are a messy lot. I think it’s because it is a very plastic intensive job (doesn’t have to be, but that’s the easy way), and sites are usually far from dump sites. Also, most are understaffed and overworked. I have a bigger problem with all the trash, more than someone using an outhouse or building their own cabin or having stairs without railings.

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Almost
3 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

Trash ..white rich people….trees getting cut..trash
.white people…pot growing for profit for whites..trash…trees getting cut down..cal trans..hazardous clean. Up pay ..for whites…jobs for clean up

Fire
…..human racket teering on natives ..mess8ng with tribals
…growing for gain for more cheap land for whites only..pass it over look it for whites…grow for whites…lol…..fuxxx trash pile

Roptumbulous
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Roptumbulous
3 years ago
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Trash ..brown rich people….trees getting cut..trash
.brown people…pot growing for profit for browns..trash…trees getting cut down..cal trans..hazardous clean. Up pay ..for browns…jobs for clean up

Fire
…..human racket teering on natives ..mess8ng with tribals
…growing for gain for more cheap land for browns only..pass it over look it for browns…grow for browns…lol…..fuxxx trash pile

Grumpy
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Grumpy
3 years ago
Reply to  Almost

I’ve seen all races pollute here in humboldt but the nastiest place I’ve ever been to is hoopa just sayn

Matthew Meyer
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Matthew Meyer
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf

Since you worked for a company that did cleanups of old grows, it stands to reason that you would not encounter well-tended scenes. That fact, however, does not provide a good basis for generalizing about all grows, given the obvious bias of your ‘sample.’

fred krissman
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3 years ago
Reply to  Matthew Meyer

Thanks for stating the obvious, which some folks such as Alf, clearly require stating!

Readbetweenthelines
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Readbetweenthelines
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf

What company did this clean up Alf?

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf

I’m sure most of those were greenrushers not the smaller homesteaders who live and work in their property.

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf

I have seen and worked on many beautiful farms that could be in a magazine. Ponds, master gardening and landscaping. I’ve often thought a book about the Farms of Humboldt County would be a great seller

P*** W***lies
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P*** W***lies
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Go fund me!

Kickstarter !

So many good probjects funded by crowd funding.

These kids built a tree house and then used kickstarter to publish a how to book on the process.

https://vimeo.com/129335481

It would be a great idea to get a good face on the farms that people can aspire to.

Learning how to farm is a profession as old as time. It was a mandatory occupation that paralleled work In industrial America.

My grandparents grew food during the recession and fed family and neighbors.

That is a noble and admirable skill.

Grow your own!

Diesel
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Diesel
3 years ago

Great reporting Nichole. Way to expose the County’s underhanded threat of Civil Asset Forfeiture to harass rural property owners. The bureaucrats need to stop trying to force people to comply with their unrealistic demands, and look for more respectful and reasonable approaches at collaboration!

Kay Y
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Kay Y
3 years ago
Reply to  Diesel

If I’m reading this right they stand to make 4.7 million in prop
plus about 10 million in prop
plus the 700k?

That’s business, man.

🎶Someday the mountain might get em but the law never will🎵

Goincrazy
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Goincrazy
3 years ago

😤👎🏼 Estelle sold SoHum out ..

Coletta Hughes
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Coletta Hughes
3 years ago
Reply to  Goincrazy

Agreed ^5

Dave Kirby
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Dave Kirby
3 years ago
Reply to  Goincrazy

No the voters of California “sold humboldt out” If you were here in the old days and if there were a thread back then it was all about ganga is a sacred herb and the laws around it are unjust.

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Kirby

No Dave, that’s not true.

Readbetweenthelines
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Readbetweenthelines
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

There is a lot of truth to that.

Coletta Hughes
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Coletta Hughes
3 years ago

As a life long pro 420 person I voted agienst legalizing of 420 for this very reason. This is a money grab and nothing more. They’re not even putting a dent in the massive illegal grows that pollute and destroy the environment. I’m 100% against mega grows, (Legal or Not), but not the mom and pops with 20 – 200 plants (Legal or Not). Across the board, no one should be allowed to grow more than 200 plants period. Companies and corporations equal payoffs and unchecked corruption, weed is no different. We have a bunch of wealthy crooks running Humboldt and making laws that benefit their greedy monopolies.

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
3 years ago
Reply to  Coletta Hughes

Using money to change people’s behaviors is as old as time, and so is people complaining about it.
Great article by the way. I’d like to see where the money is going, who is really profiting. I see very large bundles of cash going over the counter at the planning dept.

Coletta Hughes
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Coletta Hughes
3 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

Willow Creeker, Your comment was pretty damed redundant, at least for those of us who think.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

Thank you Willow Creeker, Diesle and Coletta Hughes!

RE: Where the money goes-

In theory Planning and Building is a not-for-profit County Department so all of the Administrative Costs (~722k) go back to fund the programs from satellites to salaries. However the fines and penalties (~4 million and counting) go into the Humboldt County General Fund where the Board of Supervisors determines how it will be spent.

Alf- I would love to take you on a tour of small permaculture farms in our community that would change your mind (many that have been abated or at least impacted by the program). Let me know if you are interested.

fred krissman
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3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Well said Nichole!

P*** W*******
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P*** W*******
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Nicole, it would do a massive amount of good to expose the over reach of our local , state, and federal EMPLOYEES.

This is a wonderful article that is very cut and dry about the position the working class rural farmer and homesteader.

Ironic, that our ability to carry on with our MANDATORY CONSUMER BASED LIFESTYLES is showing the disdain for the MAJORITY OF THE “people”, who need to stay productive to keep the children /parents fed, and their homes out of bankruptcy.

Since when did the horror of War prevent the sales of armaments, and since when does the death of the few, mandate lock down of the 99% who aren’t sick.

I will share your wonderful piece with everyone I know.

Keep pushing back against the destruction of the totalitarian tip toe over and into our lives.

Peace

Ruth Alfred
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3 years ago
Reply to  Coletta Hughes

They must be part of Pelogis For Me Act!

Sean
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Sean
3 years ago

Nice work, Shakti!

It’s a shame that neither Fennell, nor Ford, will acknowledge that there is, or has been, any problems with how they implemented legalized cannabis. Fennell blames the State for the problems and Ford pretends he doesn’t know what’s actually going on…

Get rid of them both. Cowards and liars have no place in our leadership.

John Santos Russell Johnson
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John Santos Russell Johnson
3 years ago
Reply to  Sean

Agree 100%. Ford, Santos, Russell, Johnson and especially Fennell need to go. We need people in these positions who want to work with the people of the county and encourage business. Not a bunch of clowns who do nothing but pander to the DFW and The Water Board.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago

And happen to collect a huge paycheck

Willie Bray
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3 years ago

🕯🌳Very well put together article Nichole. 🌍🖖🐸🇺🇸🇺🇸

P*** W*******
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P*** W*******
3 years ago

Ok

Adam
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Adam
3 years ago

Thanks for getting the data to show that Ford and the commissioners have been lying about their policies and intentions the entire time.

BS
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BS
3 years ago

Lots of people that have gone through the abatement process have paid so much because the county won’t tell you there’s even such a thing as a non penalty compliance agreement. Those that have gotten them, haven’t done it for free, they’ve had to hire an agent or a lawyer to help them so even if they end up not paying the county for their veggie greenhouse, they’ve still paid an agent or a lawyer. The entire abatement process was designed just the same as those crazy cops hanging out of their helicopter at me with a m-16. It was designed to create fear and to scare you and financially break you into compliance or giving up. I’m 41 years old and I still feel an intense fear every time I hear a helicopter. No 12 yr old should ever have a gun in their face over a plant, especially a plant that isn’t even a foot tall yet. All of us 70s and 80s kids have ptsd. Way to go!!

Move along!
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Move along!
3 years ago

Estelle, you should be ashamed! You have aided in the destruction of an entire county. I find it ironic that the horse you rode in on ( code enforcement and planning department over reach) will be the same one that takes you out. You are a complete sell out. I voted for you. Even campaigned for you. I believed in your message that the county needs to stay out of our homes and off our land. You lied! I will vote for anyone but you. Nepotism is alive and well in the Board of Supervisors. Estelle has aided her friends and relatives. Forgetting the people who gave her their votes. The small property owners. Estelle, you will carry this legacy of destruction for the rest of your days. I hope when you are voted out in November you remember it is the little people that put you there and the Mom and Pops will take you out.I hope you move far away. Humboldt county doesn’t want you.

Ivan B Nobody
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Ivan B Nobody
3 years ago
Reply to  Move along!

~!*W*o*r*d*!~

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
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Nicely put.

For sure
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For sure
3 years ago

Wait till the 2022 SafeHomesAct…Get educated on this Act. It will make these cannabis Abatements seem like child’s play.

Scared Safe
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Scared Safe
3 years ago
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I’m having trouble finding anything on 2022 Safe Homes Act. Can someone please post a link?

Laura hall
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Laura hall
3 years ago

Humbolt co stupidvisors really need to be “checked” and the properties they own should be gone over with a fine tooth comb. Are ALL structures permitted and grading in the last 50 yrs. been permitted and a tax audit to make sure they haven’t used illegal gains for any purchases. Hopefully we can help destroy their lives as done unto us. I’m in a real bad mood.

Those were the days my friend
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Those were the days my friend
3 years ago

Aw Lary , preach! He was a true homesteader . RIP

Nan
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Nan
3 years ago

Great artical good eyeopener as well. Makes me sick to see those in charge to take advantage of and manipulating the system in such an unfair unbalanced way. They all should be fired for doing what they know is wrong. They all should be ashamed.

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
3 years ago

This is what freedom was- we had a truly unique lifestyle, free from bother of most government and rules. We ruled ourselves pretty well. But it started to go sideways in the early aughts and by the time Eastern Europeans moved in, and the jacked up diesel truck thing started, it was over. We should have policed our neighborhoods better, not been so nice to outsiders, not so easy go lucky just because we were making money. We didn’t see the future. I won’t complain about the abatement program. It was destined to happen, I’m surprised it took so long. It did a good job as far as I’m concerned to clean up the shit show that our mountains have become. It’s still a mess, now the permit patsies are growing carte blanche with no inspections, at least in my hood they are the same dirtbags that were there before, just paying off the county to operate. But the hills are much quieter, and I like that, because I live here.

Recall Estelle
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Recall Estelle
3 years ago

Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

fred krissman
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3 years ago

This article is an invaluable contribution to the canna-community IMO; congratulations Nichole, on a job very well done!

I hope that you folks can get the notorious LoCO to reprint this for a broader distribution…

Max
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Max
3 years ago

I grew in Santa Cruz County for years. Got fucked and lost my land due to the over stringent regulations in 2018. Had to sell the land. County wanted $100,000 in renovations to consider looking at the permit, then my house burned down. Had to leave.

One of my buddies co-wrote prop 19 back in 2010 and voted against it because of how the people in Sac started fucking with it. Prop 64 was just what we voted against back in 2010 but on steroids.

Cali started something great in 1996 (SC in ’92) and fucked it all up. Fuck prop 64. We were fine with 215

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
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I’d really like to hear your story Max. This topic comes up a lot- is there another County that has such extreme barriers to compliance that comes close to those in Humboldt? Sounds like you had a pretty similar experience in Santa Rosa.

To Guest re: “I have a friend who is licensed in both Humboldt and Trinity counties. He said it was a nightmare going through the process in Humboldt but easy in Trinity. ”

I too have heard this from friends. They could not get through the process in Humboldt but had no problem in Trinity. Its really interesting how Mendocino is handling legalization as well. No County is perfect, but Mendo doesnt have an abatement program (other than a couple warnings, that Ive heard about at least). They appear to be going after the mega grows using police (rather than code enforcement) and leaving our elders and small farmers alone.

Watch the difference in policy manifested in the property values and crime in Mendo, Trinity and Humboldt. I only hope we realize solutions soon!

Thanks everyone for the lovely comments! Much more to come, so stay tuned to Kym Kemp 🙂

Pelosisucks
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Pelosisucks
3 years ago

Vote republican. You can’t do anything without a permit whether you make donuts or cut hair or grow cannabis. The government sucks. They want to take your money and divide it up to illegals and lazy folk. Don’t call the police ever. For any reason. Take care of the problem yourself. If you lose you are weak and the week will be weeded out. It’s a fact of nature in al species. If you have a serious prom call the fire department They are good people and will help. Ohhh and go back in your house and if you come out you must wear a mask What a joke.

RecallRexBohn
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RecallRexBohn
3 years ago
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I believe Rex Bohn is a Republican and he had a major hand in creating and implementing all the local regulations regarding weed – the problem here is not related to political parties – it is all about corrupt individuals like Rex and his son and his son’s business partner writing the rules to benefit themselves.

Guest
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3 years ago
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Truer words were never spoken.

Chad
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Chad
3 years ago

Great article. Thanks for shedding light on these issues.

We the corparation,by the corporation, in corruption we stand
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We the corparation,by the corporation, in corruption we stand
3 years ago

Let’s kick these theiving slimeballs who are supposedly supposed to work for us / elected by us to work for us THE PEOPLE!!! to the fu#%ing curb. Our country was designed to elect politicians to WORK FOR US!!!!!
WE THE PEOPLE REMEMBER!!!!!!

P*** W*******
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P*** W*******
3 years ago

It shouldn’t be lost on free men and women what government unchained can do when the community is divided

“Flatten the curve” to help hospitals and staff

Somehow transitioned to

“stop the spread.”

This is what moving the goal posts look like to people who know this isn’t what we signed on to when the government first said shelter in place.

You really need to understand how this became a problem for people who are the small business owners of America, trying to hold their own against the behemoth corporate machine.

We are getting hit by so many conflicting messages, so much political one upmanship, and the working class is eating itself because no one can seem to agree on anything.

This is textbook authoritarian creep, and we are so confused by the endless stream of conflicting information.

The NEW NORMAL Must be pushed back against. As a community, we can protest against the local enforcement of this global corporate agenda.

How? This might be a good time to start looking for solutions to getting our community back on its feet, not looking to covet thy neighbors house /land because you have a guaranteed paycheck and they are struggling to find the means to survive.

As humans, we need to think about the sacrifices of our ancestors and and the people who made this Republic what it is, the most unique place on earth.

That blood on our viens is pumping because of brave people who were looking forward to the future of their children and grandchildren.

We will most certainly hang apart, unless we show some ability to look past the politics of hate, and focus on the small business owners that made working class America, such a powerful magnet for people all over the world , seeking a better life.

Immigrants are a part of that dream, as well, they need to recognize what’s at stake.

We are all going to die, but will our children and grandchildren be able to look back at this time in history to know the meaning of a free people who spoke truth to power, and made the government/ corporation respect it’s role in the lives of free people?

Stop acting like a conquered people.

Our ancestors need to know their sacrifices were not in vain.

Great Vlog on MOVING THE GOALPOSTS
From a free state to a police state.
by Canadian lawyer

https://youtu.be/5oaWEIqIjYk

SmallFry
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SmallFry
3 years ago

This whole masquerade of “legalization” is an absolute falsehood. At least it is here in the triangle! This to me, is not the face of “legalization” but more like “privatization”..
As the numbers point out most people who have been abated are under 10,000 square ft. 10,000 square foot is only like a quarter of an acre. Most parcels are over 20 acres. To demand that people give up the right to use their private property to cultivate cannabis entirely and give up their entire lively hood over a few minor violations, is ludicrous, if they are not bothering anyone.. and don’t have egregious Violations or pollution. To me an out house or grey water on large enough acres is not egregious, nor are few hoops or green houses, or even use of low wattage lights if they don’t bother anyone’s view shed, have enough buffer, and on a large enough parcel.. If they are soo concerned about the violations, why don’t don’t they offer to let folks to clean their properties if they want to continue, put in reasonable water storage, Make some improvements, reduce canopy size, instead of shutting smaller scenes down entirely, and killing peoples livelihoods? This is NOT what legalization looks like..

P*** W*******
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P*** W*******
3 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

https://youtu.be/5oaWEIqIjYk

From free state to the police state.

I had a Lil inspired moment, but I think it got lost in the Frey…Oi Vey

Viva FREI

Me
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Me
3 years ago

Excellent article . Thank you

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago

I have a friend who is licensed in both Humboldt and Trinity counties. He said it was a nightmare going through the process in Humboldt but easy in Trinity. Estelle’s argument is it’s the state making it rough. I don’t think so. I can’t help but wonder if it has anything to do with our supervisors being in the business themselves that has made it harder in Humboldt.

RecallRexBohn
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RecallRexBohn
3 years ago
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Rex Bohn makes money from cannabis – he sells supplies to his son and his son’s business partner. Rex helped write the rules that benefit his son and his son’s business partner. Our problems in here in Humboldt are born out of the corruption that plagues the county government.

Guesst
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Guesst
3 years ago

I would like to point out the recent bust on Wilder Ridge in the last few weeks. Twelve- 20′ by 100′ greenhouses right next to the main road. In another month they would have pulled off multi millions of dollars. Coming from the Sheriff’s Department they said the reason it was busted was because of neighbor complaints. So why taking so much time to abate all the small farms?

John Ford is a liar
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John Ford is a liar
3 years ago

John Ford completely and so obviously lied when he made that statement about last years direction of not going after anything under 6000 square feet. Most of the people I know had greenhouses way smaller than that. The smallest I know of was 400 square feet and it was empty because the person just bought the place a month before.
Don’t forget they sold this up to$10,000 a day fine to the public under the guise of going after the most egregious violators and everyone no matter how small had fines start at $10,000 including Mom and Pops.
Steve Madrone said this was designed by Rex Bohn and Ryan Sundberg to eliminate competition in the market. We know Rex’s son Trevor Bohn is making a killing. I was told he is expanding. Funny thing is his weed doesn’t sell very well in the dispensaries. So, my big question is, who is buying his weed?

Four supervisors voted for this policy. The two leaders: Rex Bohn and Ryan Sundberg, and the two followers: Estelle Fennel and Virginia Bass.
Eliminating competition through abatement has ruined our economy. We had a large number of small growers who spent every dime they made in the local economy. That wealth has been transferred to a few large growers some of which do not even live in the county and spend only a small portion of what they make in the local economy. How else could you explain the drop in Humboldt County’s economy while the rest of the state was surging.

TruthTeller
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TruthTeller
3 years ago

That’s right! Rex and Ryan came up with the idea and got Estelle and Virginia to go along with it. They flattered them with comments. [edit] Seriously they are both weak minded individuals that were manipulated and are still being lead around. And as result many people have suffered and continue to suffer.

RecallRexBohn
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RecallRexBohn
3 years ago

When Trevor’s business partner applied to expand their farm, Xotic Flavorz, multiple neighbors formally protested to the Planning Department. The expansion was approved anyways. I talked to a regular worker in the Planning Department and she was shocked that the project was approved when so many people objected to it. The next month, different growers in the same neighborhood applied for an expansion and again, neighbors protested. This time, the Planning Department downscaled the expansion and put in a bunch of conditions. The whole situation stinks of corruption and nepotism!

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago

Thank you very much bboy! Noted brother. Do you mean the ~4 million? I’m definitely following the general fund expenditures yes.

To all 969-972 of you, I understand your struggle, I see you (not in a creepy satellite sort of way of course ha ha) and you are not alone. Enduring the abatement process reportedly makes folks feel alienated and terrified, so I just want to put that out there.

On the flip-side, I have a hard time believing that any policy maker or county employee would intentionally cause so much harm to their own community (and to the environment in some ways, for a bizarre twist). There must be some disconnect somewhere and I am determined to realize what that is.

I firmly believe in the power of sharing your story, for those who are brave enough. I believe if the County government and County as a whole understood the culture, the people, and the impacts of these policies, that things would change. But until folks speak up, it is easy to cast notice recipients aside as nothing but “greenrushers who deserved what was coming.”

Please reach out if you’ve got a story to share about the abatement program or cannabis generally- [email protected]

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago

Truer words were never spoken. I think it’s the same old story of the fox guarding the hen house lol

Christine Feinholz
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Christine Feinholz
3 years ago

I have a friend who just got an abatement letter for SIX EXTRA PLANTS!!! In bags so they’re not even that big. Her landlord has been stalking and bullying her and even called the cops on her SIX EXTRA PLANTS. The cops went to her house and took a look and said they weren’t going to do anything for something so small and that he was an asshole to call the cops on her. Now an abatement letter. IS this for real? A landlord can use law enforcement to bully a tenant??? What can she do??? ANYONE??

Pafaso
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Pafaso
3 years ago

Estelle is out. Thank God. I have been trying to get permitted for nearly 4 years…Planning Department is a horrible mess. One of the worst is Meghan Ryan…does not return phone calls, mail, faxes or emails. If she is assigned to your application, request another person. The problem is in the management of the Planning Department. It seems to me that there is a total lack of project management. Why isn’t an application assigned to a single management person with delegation to individual staff members for the parts of the puzzle. Assigning or delegating to multiple staff members is NOT project management and provides no singular person for applicants to communicate with. Often, the right and left hands not only don’t communicate, but have zero idea that the other exists. Yes the costs and bureaucracy are out of hand, but worse yet is the disarray of communication inside of Planning Department. During the last few years, the bureaucracy, lack of communication of correct information and apathy of staff has only become worse. Small farmers seeking to become legal don’t have a prayer of affordability to achieve it.