Humboldt County Provides Key Cannabis Data on Cultivation Permits, Regulation, and Watershed Capacities

A drop of water glows on the magenta hairs of a marijuana plant.

A drop of water glows on the magenta hairs of a marijuana plant. [Photo by Kym Kemp]

In a pivotal meeting Thursday night before the Planning Commission, Humboldt County’s Planning and Building Department unveiled long anticipated data gauging the pulse of the cannabis industry and detailing the changes in cultivation regulation and enforcement.

As the March 2025 deadline for Measure S cannabis cultivation tax debts looms, the presentation shed light on current watershed management trends and touched on challenges with data collection and oversight, while it looked at the future of the Humboldt County cannabis industry.

Screenshot of staff report highlighting cultivation acreage, caps and watershed capacity, full report here

Screenshot of staff report highlighting cultivation acreage, caps and watershed capacity, full report here.

Water

Water diversion [Image from the California Department of Fish and Wildlife]

Water diversion [Image from the California Department of Fish and Wildlife]

The cannabis data report is required annually according to a provision in the county’s 2.0 cannabis ordinance that was implemented in 2018, however a report had not been given over five years later until this Thursday night. 

Planning and Building Department Director John Ford explained this was in part due to a lack of pertinent water data that was expected from other agencies. 

Ford explained at the meeting,

“When that resolution was prepared, it was anticipated that the Regional Water Quality control board, Department of Fish and Wildlife, would be collecting stream flow information, water quality information, and that that would begin to establish data set that could be monitored to demonstrate the effectiveness of the regulatory environment that’s been established in Humboldt County and also elsewhere in the state. That never did really materialize, so we did not submit a report.”

The staff report indicates a request for water flow data has been submitted to these agencies. We inquired to Director Ford about whether that water data was in fact even being collected by these agencies, and he wrote,

They have not been collecting water data.  Which I think is too bad, because I think it would show that Humboldt has improved the watersheds.”

This is startling news considering the government narrative around cannabis legalization is that is a tool to improve ecosystem and watershed health.  To discover the agencies tasked to oversee those watersheds have not considered collecting the pertinent water data, may inspire some to pause.

The county’s Cannabis ordinance established caps for the number of cultivation permits and acreage within the twelve watersheds, in an attempt to ensure the legalization of cannabis enhances water resources. The county’s ordinance allows for a maximum of 3500 permits and 1205 acres to be cultivated, and only ten permits for farms over one acre are allowed.

Currently, Director Ford said,

“There have been a total of 2125 cultivation permits and 309 total cannabis [related] permits submitted to date… 1068 cultivation permits have been approved, 657 cultivation permits have been denied or withdrawn … and there are still 400 permits that are pending.”

Screenshot of staff report highlighting the cultivation cap allowed per watershed, full report here

Screenshot of staff report highlighting the cultivation cap allowed per watershed, full report here.

Ford commented that the issue of watershed caps was a hot topic during the last election’s Measure A discussions, which aimed to contract and restrict the already struggling industry. The proponents of the measure alleged watershed caps were not being effectively monitored by the county, and were nearly maxed out. 

However, Director Ford clarified that none of the twelve watersheds in Humboldt have exceeded the established cap. In fact the county has only permitted 51% of the allowed acreage countywide, and he explained new permit applications are rare, so he does not anticipate the county ever reaching that cap.

Ford elaborated, “The highest watershed was lower Trinity River, which was at 44% of the number permits and 58% of the number of acres.”

Another Measure A myth was dispelled by the department’s report— a large majority of permitted cultivation is pre-existing and the current trend is an overall decrease countywide of cultivation, both permitted and not. 

Screenshot of staff report highlighting the current status of cultivation permits, full report here

Screenshot of staff report highlighting the current status of cultivation permits, full report here

Ford explained,

“The report uses a very conservative figure of 35% of …new cultivation. The actual percentage of …applications for new cultivation, meaning that parcel didn’t have cultivation on it before, is about 20%. So about 80% of all applications [are] for pre-existing cultivation.”

Enforcement

One person using his abatement letter juxtaposed with his empty greenhouse, as evidence he was not guilty of cannabis cultivation as alleged

Screenshot of responsive brief, showing Plaintiff Blu Graham using his abatement letter juxtaposed with his empty greenhouse, as evidence he was not guilty of cannabis cultivation as alleged.

Additionally, the decline in cannabis cultivation countywide is due to the enforcement of unpermitted cannabis cultivation via the abatement program, which seems to have stalled since we last analyzed the data in 2022 with a little over 1200 notices posted in total, the same year the federal class action lawsuit was later filed that challenges the constitutionality of the county’s cannabis abatement program. The number of abatements for unpermitted cultivation sites continues to exceed the number of approved permits, and has since we first analyzed the data in 2020.

Ford explained, “The number of total enforcement actions are 1213. Of those, 99 are still in compliance agreements and 887 have been fully abated.”

Screenshot of staff report highlighting the current status of cultivation permits, full report here

Screenshot of staff report highlighting the current status of cultivation permits, full report here.

Measure S Taxes

According to Ford, unpaid Measure S cultivation taxes are also contributing to a decline in actively compliant sites, as non-payment of this tax can lead to a suspension of permits. 

Measure S cultivation taxes are unique to the Humboldt County cannabis industry, charging $1-$3 per square foot of cultivation area depending on the type of cultivation; outdoor, mixed light, or indoor. The tax is owed irrespective of whether the entire crop is lost to fire, mold, insects or other predators.

Amidst an industry collapse and under pressure from struggling farmers and their supporters, the Measure S tax was reduced by 85% in February 2022 by the Board of Supervisors. Then in November 2022 the Supervisors approved a resolution to suspend 100% of the tax for 2023 and 2024, and in October 2023 the Board voted to suspend 90% of the tax again. All other taxes owed, including both payments for 15% in 2021, must be resolved in 2025 either with full payment, or by making a payment plan with the county (more information regarding the county’s cannabis tax here).

Director Ford said his office is currently reviewing a total of 538 permits and applications to suspend those with unresolved taxes and administrative fees associated. According to the staff report, 228 permit holders owe both taxes and permit processing fees (149 of those are approved permits in danger of permit suspension). There are 234 additional permit holders who owe either taxes or permit processing costs. There are an additional 76 permit holders who owe either permit costs or Measure S taxes that are set to be heard by the zoning administrator with a staff recommendation for denial of their permits.

Ford explained at the meeting,

“We are in a process right now …[of] notifying people that have either not entered into an agreement to pay their fair share of …taxes, or they have not paid the money that’s owed to the Planning and Building department for processing their applications. [We] sent letters already this week suspending the permits. So those permits are being suspended. We’re sending out another batch of letters [today].”

Planning Commissioner Noah Levy pointed out that the amended 2.0 ordinance, which now gives the county ability to suspend permits, is helping the county encourage people to pay their tax bills. 

Ford agreed it was an effective tool, but detailed it has also been painful for staff.

Ford said,

“It is the response to those [letters], frankly, [that has] been overwhelming to staff. There’s a lot of people coming in and wanting to have their permit put back into an active status and wanting to pay the costs of processing their permit, and enter into an agreement to pay their taxes. So it’s been a painful process, but it is eliciting a response.”

Abandoned and Discontinued Cultivation Sites

Another matter of concern for the Planning Department is how they will resolve abandoned and discontinued cultivation sites.

Ford explained,

“[O]ne of the things that has been a concern for some time, particularly with what’s going on now with permit holders and applicants who have not been able to pay their permit costs or pay their taxes, whether or not we’re going to end up with a lot of abated sites. We have been looking at various options other than the county doing abatements, and one of the things that we’re working with right now are receivers that will take and manage the property, get the property cleaned up, but then that results in the property being sold. The beauty of that is the county doesn’t become a property owner and it allows the properties to be cleaned up, sold to somebody who wants to maintain them, and the county does, as part of that, recoup the costs of that work.”

The staff report lists three possible options for remediation of abandoned sites as; receiverships, NGO/grant collaboration and abatement, which seems to contrast the previous cannabis abatement technique, where instead the county appears to incur the liability and costs for clean up and remediation. Whereas before the costs and liability landed on the property owner, whether they were guilty of cultivating cannabis or not.

Screenshot of staff report

Screenshot of staff report

We reached out to Director Ford for clarification on receiverships, and he said it was critically important for people to understand their unpaid tax and administrative permit-related bills will not result in a receivership. 

Ford elaborated to us, writing,

“The discussion on receiverships has nothing to do with people who may owe taxes or owe permit costs to the Planning and Building Department.  Owing money to the County will not result in a Code Enforcement Action…  I know people are working to address their obligations and that [is] stressful enough.  Taxes and having a balance due to Planning and Building are a separate issue.”

Ford detailed how receiverships could potentially work for properties that have been abated and still need to be cleaned up.

Ford wrote,

“The issue [of receiverships is] related to sites that are in the Code Enforcement process and need to be cleaned up and the property owner is now either absent, unwilling or unable to do the work.  The receivership process works when there is a balance between the cost of cleaning up the site and the equity in the property.  If the cost of clean up exceeds equity the receivership process does not work.  In a receivership process the receiver agrees to take on a property and clean it up.  This involves the receiver going to the court and obtaining an order to clean up the property and then be able to sell the property once the work is completed.  The cost of the clean up then comes out of the sales price.”

(More on receiverships here)

We inquired about how many properties were in a position to be taken over by a receivership?

There are currently a handful,” Ford responded.

Ordinance 3.0?

Director Ford ended his presentation by telling the Planning Commission that a third alteration to the cannabis ordinance 3.0, was unnecessary at this time, and he suggested the county get a better sense of industry conditions before they make any unnecessary changes. 

Ford said the county should,

“[Wait] to see what’s going to happen with the applicants and the permit holders that owe money or have entered into agreements or not entered into agreements, and to come back next April with a more thorough report and see what the state of the industry is before making a decision on what should be done.”

Lastly, Ford encouraged permit holders to, “Go to the Treasurer Tax Collector, make a payment and enter into an agreement to have the taxes owed paid by March 30, 2025,” and added, “Payment plan for taxes resolves suspension.  If the permit is not suspended, farmers are free to cultivate.  If permit is suspended, farmer cannot operate.”

Tax payments  can be made at the Treasurer-Tax Collector’s Office, 125 in the County Courthouse, located at 825 5th Street in Eureka. The office is open Monday through Friday from 8:30 a.m. to noon and 1 to 4:30 p.m.  For more information, please call 707-476-2450.

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Truth Be Told
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Truth Be Told
2 years ago

Cannabis Data Report: How Legalization Killed Cannabis As An Economic Driver In Humboldt County.

fred krissman
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fred krissman
2 years ago
Reply to  Truth Be Told

Succinct & absolutely accurate! I would add, “…due to a shift from legacy mom&pops to large corporate interests.”

Kicking Bull
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Kicking Bull
2 years ago

Let Go, Let Government

Unvaxxed and overtaxed
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Unvaxxed and overtaxed
2 years ago

With the rescheduling of cannabis, patients will need a doctors prescription to buy from a dispensary. This also means that each dispensary will be required to have a pharmacist on payroll. Full government control.

Local !
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Local !
2 years ago

So a question on this, it will no longer be available recreationally in the states that approved it for such ?

nobody
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nobody
2 years ago
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Recreational will continue to be controlled, regulated, and taxed like alcohol at the State level for the time being. MMJ will be defined, and regulated at the Federal level by % of THC content, the exact same way they defined and regulated Hemp by % of THC content, similar to how many States currently define and regulate MMJ, and/or Recreational programs. The States are still free to revise, amend or modify their individual State level Controlled Substances Act/ (Controlled Drug Act of New Hampshire), as they see fit, which may, or may not be inline with the Federal Controlled Substances Act.

Farce
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Farce
2 years ago

Go go go with “legalization”!!! Pretty soon the feds will be running massive eradication programs with an IRS agent attending. Congratulations everybody! You are putting weed under the purvey of the Food and Drug Administration just like Biden always meant to do. And you are being told that now you are “more free”. It’s a sick joke but many embrace it and will remain in denial indefinitely…”Go Corporate or Go Home” you mentally sick peasants…

nobody
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nobody
2 years ago

§ 1306.26 Dispensing without prescription.A controlled substance listed in Schedules II, III, IV, or V which is not a prescription drug as determined under the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, may be dispensed by a pharmacist without a prescription to a purchaser at retail https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-21/chapter-II/part-1306/subject-group-ECFRe4ae2bfb4eae102/

Third Generation
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Third Generation
2 years ago

So, we received one of those suspension letters, and it was pretty obvious from the envelope what it was about. Now, everyone at the local post office knows who’s been suspended. The thing is, the suspension wasn’t even valid. They mistakenly sent letters to farms that owe money to the cannabis department, which Project Trellis is supposed to cover. Wouldn’t you think the planners or accounting department would have checked that first? Waste of paper, time and money to send many INVALID letters, shocking farmers for no reason.

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Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
2 years ago

Thank you for the heads up! What was being paid by the trellis program that you were charged for here? No taxes owed? I’d love to get a look at one of those letters, if you can email me a screenshot I sure would appreciate it.

Third Generation
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Third Generation
2 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

We owe 3500$ for staff time at planning and building. No taxes owed. I called last month to confirm project trellus is to cover that bill. I was told yes, they are covering it, just have sent the $ over. Then, I get this letter!

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
2 years ago

This is very unfortunate and i would like to mention it in a possible upcoming article, if you can shoot me an email that would be amazing. I am gathering a few folks who had something similar happen with these letters. Thanks

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
2 years ago

Oops that’s [email protected]

Behind the scenes:
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Behind the scenes:
2 years ago

I’ve had friends go in to pay outstanding fees, pay everything due, then received the suspension letter anyway with newly discovered fees. BEST PART: they got charged staff time for finding the fees they couldn’t find at $116 an hour.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
2 years ago

I have heard of this occurring with other matters like abatements. This is important to document. If anyone has a story like this they should reach out. You can contact me at the email above or 7073626655.

Farmer
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Farmer
2 years ago

Yeah they wouldn’t bill economic development for us. I got a letter saying I owed $ because they refused to bill for the work done. Which had set my permit back 30days and I ended up paying for out of pocket to get processed and have them retroactively bill. This took like four emails and numerous phone calls to get done. I continued to ask what I might need to provide to them to get processed I had zero communication then my permit was moved to another planner. At the end of the processing period limit from when my payment was processed I received a notification that I had missed a study. I said okay got study done and I also asked for a hearing for my permit, which I am legally allowed to do. No hearing has been set up and we are against past the 30-day deadline requirement for my request. I’m trying for the small cultivators license which the board of Supervisor’s has a stipulations that these permits get processed within 30 days. I don’t understand why the run around 7 years into legalization

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
2 years ago
Reply to  Farmer

Wow, I am so sorry to hear this. Let me get this straight, you applied for a micro permit of 3k and under? Please please reach out, this an important story to tell. Thank you. [email protected]

Ed Voice
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Ed Voice
2 years ago

The staff report indicates a request for water flow data has been submitted to these agencies. We inquired to Director Ford about whether that water data was in fact even being collected by these agencies, and he wrote,

“They have not been collecting water data. Which I think is too bad, because I think it would show that Humboldt has improved the watersheds.”

Here’s what the staff report stated, page 8 of 11:

2. Watershed Monitoring: When Resolution 18-43 was adopted, the county understood that the California State Water Resources Control Board, the North Coast Regional Water Quality Control Board, and the California Department of Fish and Wildlife were engaging in water quality and flow monitoring on many of the watersheds and other subwatersheds in Humboldt County. Planning and Building Department staff has reached out to these agencies to see if any useable data has been collected that could be used to compare stream flows and stream health from pre- and postcannabis permitting and enforcement. However, these agencies have not provided any water quality and water quantity data that can be utilized for these purposes.

https://humboldt.legistar.com/gateway.aspx?M=F&ID=bac12774-63a5-4397-99a3-ee4aaf793da3.pdf

Since John Ford wants to point fingers and blame other agencies for this lack of information, who are they, what is the name of the department of each of these agencies the public can email and ask what they are doing about it. In fact, what is John Ford doing about it?

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
2 years ago
Reply to  Ed Voice

While I am very concerned by this fact as well, It’s not John’s fault these agencies don’t monitor water resources better. Since 2018 ED Denson raised this very issue with the water board and fish and wildlife, specifically that if they want to claim legalization positively impacts the water, they should assess the water and see for certain. He was shocked they hadn’t done that. It’s alarming for sure.

While the decisions in this department have certainly impacted the community in various ways, it’s not the planning and build departments job to assess water flows I don’t think. They are doing their part to cap water use in the planning phase. they clearly have impacted the water, even if by eliminating the majority of farms. I’m not saying I agree with this, but it happened.

Ed Voice
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Ed Voice
2 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

“It’s not John’s fault”?

Ford has known for 5 years these “agencies” have not provided this information and you are defending Ford, with no documented facts Ford did try and contact these same “agencies” for 5 years?

Nothing against Mr. Denson, but I have been raising questions in the same vein since the 1990’s concerning Wild & Scenic Rivers in Humboldt County. And this so called report confirms, no matter if cannabis is legally permitted, overseen and mitigated by Humboldt County, they cannot document the degrading and harmful effects of cannabis cultivation on the environment, wildlife, watersheds and threatened and endangered species!

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
2 years ago
Reply to  Ed Voice

I appreciate your work.

While I agree that John could, and hopefully he will continue to request this information and maybe raise the issue to the state in an effective way, i still don’t believe it’s his department’s responsibility to monitor this. Should they have noticed sooner that no one was, sure, but I don’t think he had malicious intent here. He seemed upset about it as well, he wants to prove his work has had a positive impact after all and he was expecting the data to show this.

I think the important question to ask is why they havnt been documenting this information, particularly considering the harsh narrative’s around cannabis cultivators and legalization. Perhaps this article can help with that? We can only hope.

Ed Voice
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Ed Voice
2 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

“i still don’t believe it’s his department’s responsibility to monitor this.” 

Then who’s “responsibility” is it?

And no, the important question should be; why did Ford take 5 years to disclose there is NO monitoring of watersheds for the last 5 years?

Your article raises more questions than it answers…

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Ed Voice

Please explain what, to you, is meant by “watershed monitoring”, and what exactly it’s supposed to even mean, according to the people supposedly entrusted with it…

What are your concerns exactly…

Please explain how and if this poorly defined “watershed monitoring” would alleviate your concerns …

You seem to be equating watershed monitoring with water level monitoring, but water level monitoring might not even be what “watershed monitoring” is all about.

Is “watershed monitoring” used in the official regulatory context , poorly defined or undefined…???

I could see how watershed monitoring could be loosely defined only as how many permits and/or water withdrawals are allowed in a particular watershed, and might have NOTHING to do with river levels, at all, as you have postulated…

Withdrawals must be stored during the wet months, and must forbear during the dry months, so river levels during allowed periods of withdrawal would really not be a proper metric, nor relevant at all for assessing permitted cannabis cultivation’s influence and impacts to the rivers flow, would it, Ed…???

The fluctuations during the non forbearance period would wildly fluctuate due to weather, much more than it would fluctuate by any permitted cannabis cultivation’s withdrawals for storage, and therefore, monitoring of river level at USGS guaging stations as you have suggested, would be generally baseless and irrelevant, wouldn’t you agree..???

That’s what I think.

How can there be “monitoring of watersheds” if there is no clear official definition of what “monitoring of watersheds” even means…???

If you are aware of the official definition, that would be helpful to share…

If you are uncertain about or lack the official definition of “watershed monitoring”, as it pertains to this discussion, well, then, let’s say, do you even know what are you even arguing about…???

It would seem to me that, lacking any such clear definition, that any ensuing argument, would ONLY be for the sake of arguing itself, and would therefore serve no useful intended purpose…

Thanks in advance…

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Ed Voice

“Stream flow”, is not even mentioned, until Page 5, of 19, and even then, it’s ONLY, mentioned, VERY briefly, and in passing… I went no further…

You are making unreasonable demands, as there has never even been a baseline watershed analysis, “pre cannabis permitting” to compare to any post cannabis permitting impact watershed analysis…

It’s a ridiculous concept, anyway, Ed, because what if WAY more cannabis was cultivated pre cannabis permitting, than will EVER be cultivated post cannabis permitting, but the various amounts are irrelevant anyway…

It’s nothing new, so the impacts will be nothing new, so what will they even be compared to, even if they are the same , or they are even less..???

Take Humboldt’s supervisors boilerplate watershed analysis statement with a grain of salt, Ed, they likely plagiarized it, cut and pasted from another agency’s work…

Remember Ed, There is no baseline watershed analysis to compare it to, and even if there was, it would unlikely change measurably, as cannabis cultivation is a historic use, there are also multiple co occuring potential impacts like cattle ranching, and stream flow is a relatively irrelevant, tiny, highly fluctuating bit of an overall watershed analysis, regardless of cannabis cultivation water withdrawals….

Remember, a baseline watershed analysis hasn’t been provided by the regulatory agencies…

Your argument is with them, not John Ford, and CERTAINLY not with Nichole Norris…

You are barking up the wrong tree by rattling John Ford’s cage about it, Ed, and I don’t even like the guy…

And I like Nichole Norris, she is very polite and helpful, and generously offers her assistance, voluntarily.

I don’t remember her EVER making ANY unreasonable demands from ANYONE…

That’s not her style.

https://cfpub.epa.gov/watertrain/moduleFrame.cfm?parent_object_id=929

Truth Be Told
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Truth Be Told
2 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Agree 100% – it’s the responsibility of the State Water Boards and F&W to monitor water quality and flow issues, especially related to cannabis. But they made no consistent or comprehensive effort to do so before legalization so why start now? Especially since the data is likely to show that cannabis can be cultivated without negative environmental impacts.

Ed Voice
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Ed Voice
2 years ago
Reply to  Truth Be Told

This is what you should be quoting from:

https://humboldtgov.org/DocumentCenter/View/63738/Resolution-18-43-Countywide-Permit-Cap-PDF

If Humboldt County has included the following:

WHEREAS, by approving this Resolution, the Board of Supervisors establishes a limit on the number of permits and acres permits which may be approved for Open Air Cultivation Activities (including Outdoor and Mixed-Light Cultivation, and Nurseries) and Indoor Cultivation to ensure that further permitting beyond that limit will not proceed until the County has performed further analysis of the condition of these planning watersheds, including review of water flow data and applicable studies or information prepared by the following state and local agencies: California Department of Fish & Wildlife, North Coast Regional Water Quality Control Board, State Water Resources Control Board, and the Department of Forestry and Fire Protection. 

Did these agencies know they were to provide this information to Humboldt County Planning?

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
2 years ago
Reply to  Truth Be Told

I agree with you truth. seems to me the state agencies never kept track because the harsh enforcement of cannabis has never really been about the environmental effects of cultivating it. It’s a drop in a bucket, and compared to say a damn or some other industry, it’s basically irrelevant. Sure there were some bad actors throughout the years but every ma and pop garden got swept up in this propaganda. It was sad to watch, oftentimes they were the environmental advocates, teachers, volunteer fire fighters etc., only to be accused of causing harm, and just for growing a specific plant.

Ed, it’s not like it’s the last article I will write. Helping to inspire people to think and ask questions is a good thing.

Farce
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Farce
2 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Thank you, Nicole for saying this! But look out- it’s funny how many people who ran HUGE grows now want to pretend they were poor little mom n pops. Okay maybe not funny, more like disgusting to me. They want it every way. Meanwhile there were many real mom n pops playing it cool and right and they got slammed….and they never had any barrels of cash buried or properties in other countries….

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
2 years ago
Reply to  Farce

I don’t disagree with you, I worked with too many at EDs office. The definition of a small and large farm has been murky the past decade or so which hasn’t made it any easier either. When speaking about cannabis it’s always massive even at 2k sq ft it seems. There’s definitely a massive corporate consolidation underway too and it’s very sad. How much legally grown mega mono-crop cannabis is sold in the traditional market?

Ed Voice
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Ed Voice
2 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

“Helping to inspire people to think and ask questions is a good thing.”

Yes, that could be true if you were not defending Ford for his inaction for the last 5 years.

I’ll be contacting all those agencies to find out if what Ford said was true and let you know what they say…

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
2 years ago
Reply to  Ed Voice

I’m simply stating what I know from speaking with Ford, and listening to the meeting, and it was clear he was not happy to discover this either. Again I agree that perhaps something should have been done sooner, I know ED tried to call them out, but I do not think it was malicious or intentional, the entire state’s regulatory industry is a mess, it’s not one persons fault. You have my email, let me know what they say, I am eager to hear.

Ed Voice
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Ed Voice
2 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

“it was clear he was not happy to discover this either.”

Abd when did Ford “discover” it?

What you think and what you know are two completely different things. You ask us to believe, after 5 years, Ford knew nothing about it? Come on, give me a break…

Farce
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Farce
2 years ago
Reply to  Ed Voice

No reason to get snippety w Nicole. She’s trying to help and is honestly earnest about her approach. I appreciate your saltiness, Ed. John Ford is good at lying- the deceptions that he has spoken have been veiled in ambiguities. That’s how he has suckered an entire county. I look forward to hearing back what you find out.

Ed Voice
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Ed Voice
2 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Here is one, I sent to all 4 agencies Ford named. I do not believe Ford what so ever. We will see if these agencies have his back or throw him under the bus. That’s why I am “snippety” with Nicole. I hate to see her take sides with Ford thru his skullduggery…

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RrjK8fZupdFM7-rRQutAsZx1KF4417hj/view?usp=sharing

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
2 years ago
Reply to  Ed Voice

Oh honey I don’t “ take fords side.” I do find him to be a nice human though and probably the best director we’ve had in Humboldt in a long while and that’s also according to many elders who know better than I do. It’s not an easy position to be in, but He cares about what folks have to say, he is very approachable, willing to listen and accommodate. Do I agree with his department’s approach the past six years? No. But I have hope for the future. What do you want to see happen? I think John is all ears.

Ed Voice
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Ed Voice
2 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

I take it, Ford is the only Planning Director you have had to deal with. I have been dealing with Humboldt County Planning Directors since Tom Conlon. And including Ford, like all good Planning Directors, you have taken the blue pill hook line and sinker. Good luck and god speed “honey”…

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
2 years ago
Reply to  Farce

I appreciate his saltiness too, he sent a great email out farce and thanks for the respect too.

Thebigdeal
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Thebigdeal
2 years ago
Reply to  Ed Voice

What makes you think any of these agencies will give a honest or complete answer. The water board and fish and wildlife are the most unethical and dishonest and dishonest agencies. It’s all about propaganda and government control

Ed Voice
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Ed Voice
2 years ago
Reply to  Thebigdeal

So you don’t put John Ford and the Planning Department in that same category?

Behind the scenes:
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Behind the scenes:
2 years ago
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Once they collect fees they don’t really do anything. The farmer self reports, and monitors. By the way, the fees have crept up over six years without explanation. Initially, very minor problems with their reporting system resulted in outlandish fines.

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Uhh, Ford talks as if property will sell at all! Anyone sold their rural parcel lately? I’d love to hear a success story, cause I think rural property owners are fucked. No value (maaaybe for timber) high tax bills, and the agencies up their butts for even more money. Dark days. The end.

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2 years ago

Yeah I found that part pretty far fetched as well. The cost to “remediate” an old permitted cannabis farm is astounding. I know a sweet food farmer trying to do that now. I can only hope the county works with him to “clean up” what they permitted without it costing him more than he paid for the property. I feel so bad for out of the area buyers, all they see is an off grid cabin, flowing water, and garden beds for their food business. Then they get hit with tens if not hundreds of thousands to “remediate.” Point is the receivership is unlikely to work in sohum because of the property values plummeting.

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2 years ago

Yikes , this up a creek ! No proof of water quality yet 90% of these parcels are fully abated or denied. This is a total slide of hands and we gotta watch what they are really doing to the oceans and rivers!
Like mining tons of rock and gravel out of our rivers each year and plans to build over sized energy plants off shore. Always distractions to keep us unfocused and unaware of the true underlayment in the works..

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Agreed, the destruction of the air, land and water in Trinidad (and beyond) related to the unpermitted rock quarry that is still operating today, is incredibly concerning. I wish the planning department would do something about it, I know several complaints have been made.

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2 years ago
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You are correct, when it comes to the instream gravel extraction numbers in Humboldt County, the Planning Department, County of Humboldt Extraction Review Team (CHERT) and gravel operators crunch the numbers to show (make it seem) they are below the approved volume of instream gravel extracted per site, combining numbers and percentage to make the bottom line lower. And its the gravel extraction operators that provide the numbers, funny how that works, like the fox guarding the hen house, with oversite by CHERT who is paid by all the instream gravel extraction operators to mitigate their operations with Humboldt County Planning. Funny how that words, no conflict of interest, right?

https://humboldtgov.org/ArchiveCenter/ViewFile/Item/1558

All these numbers about cannabis permits remind me of how the Planning Department has its own way to count, add and do math, to fit what they want the public to believe with no documented facts to back it up. For example, the section called “Withdrawn/Denied Cultivation Permits”. They show one number for two completely different scenarios. What are the number for each?

Then you have a category called “Cannabis Operations Removed from Watersheds”, how did they come up with those numbers and is there a list or report of theses “Cannabis Operations” the public can read?

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2 years ago
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Removing the gravel is what makes the rivers healthy (deeper)! They should be mining the mouth of the eel every year to flush it out.

Ed Voice
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2 years ago
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Nope, please provide the source for your claim?

The Real Guest
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2 years ago
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Sure Ed…

The river channels choked to the brim, with gravel and sediment leaves few cold deep pools that are necessary for fish to evade multiple species of predators, makes the rivers run shallow, wide, and warm, and forces some of the water current under the surface of the overly elevated riverbed, if not causing it to run completely subsurface.

It leads to excess evaporation and high water temperatures that are lethal to our native anadromous species.

70° f is the upper limit for their survival, which is easily exceeded under the “current” riverbed conditions…

Your long held grudge and conflict with Randall Sand and Gravel, has again reared it’s disagreeable head.

There is so much excess sediment under, upstream and downstream of Fernbridge, that the river is trying to flow to the east of the entire bridge, severely eroding the eastern edge of Ferndale’s alluvial dairyland, and there is an effort underway to armor the upriver side of the eastbound approach ramp with riprap, to prevent the bridge approach from washing out…

It’s my opinion that clearing the channel under the bridge, where it belongs, would be a much more prudent and necessary effort, even if it happened in addition to the ongoing armoring…

It seems as though you have become out of touch with the pulse of the river you so “vociferously, advocate for…

I know this river at least as well as you do, having lived alongside it for 50 years now…

Excess sediment needs to be removed, and that’s the bottom line…

I don’t care what you and the experts say…

Following their advice has led to the virtually complete collapse of the entire salmon and steelhead fishery…

Maybe it’s time for you to stop trusting them so wholeheartedly, and begin to pay attention to others, as opposed to expecting , always, that people pay attention to you instead…???

Where is your incontrovertible evidence that excess sediment is beneficial to the survival of our anadromous species…

Please show it if you are going represent such nonsense…

Thank you in advance, and good luck.

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2 years ago
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Thanks for putting words in my mouth. Nothing I can provide will change your mind. But, to little or no avail, you can educate yourself here:

https://media.fisheries.noaa.gov/2021-11/PD-03-401-11_final.pdf

https://www.spn.usace.army.mil/Portals/68/docs/regulatory/LOP_2015-1.pdf

The Real Guest
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2 years ago
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Just go across Fernbridge Ed, come on…

Look with your own eyes, like I do with mine…

The problem is crystal clear…

Look to the East across the riverbed, along 101 northbound, just south of The old Holmgren Homestead, toward the Old Piling Hole, (if you can recall where any of those places are,) same thing, the riverbed is so clogged with sediment that the river has been washing out the Avenue of the Giants there…

But don’t suggest that I need to educate MY self, as there is no doubt in my mind I am much better acquainted with the ins and outs of the South Fork Eel River than you will EVER be.

50 years of hands on experience…

The river is choked, Ed… It’s chock full…

That’s a bad thing, not a good thing…

Everything that was behind benbow dam has been just inching it’s way slowly downstream bit by bit…

I can act see when and where it moves…

Mouth of Somerville Creek is one place it’s lodged too thick…

Keep your damn links…

That’s all you got.

It figures that you would want to leave it that way…

Go to Ferndale, Ed, and open your eyes…

It isn’t going to hurt.

Then get back to me, and tell me what you saw with your own eyes…

How’s the flies in your area…???

I hear they’re thick…

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Since you have 50 years experience as a armchair hydrologist and Fluvial geomorphology, then you should know; Benbow Dam was a seasonal dam, that created a seasonal lake only during the summer months May to September each year, it never created a backup of sedimentation.

What you should do; make a proposal to the Planning Department outlining what you have stated in your last two posts:

https://humboldtgov.org/DocumentCenter/View/58839/Section-310-Hydrology-and-Water-Quality-Revised-DEIR-PDF

And or propose the same questions to Humboldt State Cal Poly and see what they say?

https://riverinstitute.humboldt.edu/people/andrew-stubblefield

https://engineering.humboldt.edu/programs/ere/undergraduate-emphases/water-resources

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2 years ago
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You seem to be out to lunch, ED.

Seasonal dam…???

What a crock of shit…

It’s safe to say you’re full of it.

A literal half truth at best, as A MATTER OF FACT..

The 20 foot long flash boards were the only part of the dam that was seasonal.

Your lack of knowledge on the history of Benbow Dam is astonishing.

Like I have already mentioned, and you have so graciously proved beyond a shadow of doubt,

“I am much better acquainted with the ins and outs, [and the damming], of the South Fork Eel River than you will EVER be.”

Your dam comments have damned you.

You are a local in name only, clearly unfamiliar to the area you claim to be “familiar” with.

What a sham…!!!

Your claim that Benbow dam did not hold back tremendous gravel and sediment is “stone deaf”…

Benbow dam, for half or more of it’s seasonal height, was a solid concrete dam since it’s inception to the time it was updated with two narrow fish passages circa Late 70’s, early 80’s, roughly.

50 years, give or take.

Through both the 55 AND 64 floods and any earlier floods after the dam was built nearly 100 years ago…

Eventually there were a pair of very narrow locks cut through the original full river channel width concrete dam, so that fish could pass in the winter…

Approximate 15% of it’s width is all that was opened up…

Only relatively recently was the massive concrete, half height, portion of the dam, full span across the river except the two narrow locks, jack hammered out and fully removed with heavy equipment..

The haul road for concrete debris removal bisected the lawn at the park for a year or more…

Only then was the massive amount of gravel that had built up behind the dam for 80 years or more, freed up , to finally eresumeit’s natural course down rthe iverbed from Benbow…

You must not be a fisherman.

You must not remember the marked Boundary Hole, precisely 1/4 mile downstream of Benbow Dam, the closest that one could legally fish below the dam, due to it’s blockage of fish passage, until the locks were put in place…

Your opinions have no basis in reality…

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2 years ago
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You are too insulting. Rein it back.

The Real Guest
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2 years ago
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OK, sorry, to you, and also to Ed.

I never claimed to be an armchair hydrologist, as alleged, and I’m not sure if I should be offended or not by also falsely being labeled as a 50 year old “Fluvial geomorphology”…

Help me here, what “on earth” does that even mean…???

Is that a “fluid gender” thing, or what…???

I’ve been described as a “metamorphosis” before, (supposedly as a compliment), by a school counselor, but I’ve never been called a “Fluvial geomorphology” before…

That’s definitely a first.

Does that mean I’ve been stoned and all washed up for a half century…???

It seems like the big wording wording is cobbled together, unstable, with plenty of associated added “fluid”.

Please forgive me for becoming too defensive when I perceive “experts” are trying to intentionally torpedo the fragile inner workings of our precariously balanced and highly vulnerable businesses and infrastructure, with unnecessary objections, disruptions, and disturbances, by any malicious, meddlesome, mischievous, outside agitators…

It seems to me that it may be more than just a coincidence, that suddenly, after such troublemaking nonsense, additional, burdensome, unnecessary regulations and punishments for what I can only assume and surmise to be instream gravel extraction operations, are being proposed…

There is an accompanying “instream” article very recently on RHBB…

https://kymkemp.com/2024/05/06/cdfw-introduces-new-regulation-proposal-to-safeguard-fish-and-wildlife-through-enhanced-lake-and-streambed-agreement-compliance/

Is there a connection…???

That would be very unfortunate.

Just the thought of it irks me.

Things are difficult enough as it is…

I detest the vindictive throwing of cogs into the wheels of progress, just for the intentionally malevolent sake of “shutting things down”…

I love my community and it’s businesses.

I find misguided efforts to make our lives more difficult, and to disrupt and /or derail our already shaky commerce, by those with nothing productive to do,
to be extremely offensive and abhorrent.

WE are all trying to survive here and are struggling desperately to stay afloat, as you well know.

Many are sinking, and many have already sunk…

The VERY LAST thing we need people doing, is to be carelessly rocking the boat…!!!

I posted a link earlier to an article detailing how our County General Fund and it’s workings are projected to be kaput in just a couple of years…

That’s no joke, nor is it a small inconsequential matter.

We don’t need any trouble maker’s, from the outside or the inside…

We have troubles enough.

I’m trying to figure out how to bolster our economy…

I don’t appreciate poorly disguised, malignant efforts intended to defeat any of us, instead.

Nuff said.

Thanks for what you’re doing, and more power to you.

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Nice link…

Thanks.

From your link, this clearly shows a great deal of built up gravel still behind the permanent portion of the dam still left at the time…

And this is LONG AFTER the locks were installed…

From the rest of the photos, it is also plain to see the tremendous amount of gravel that had been pent up behind the dam…

It’s has now been slowly progressing downstream in a big plug, ever since, and or has become fairly firmly lodged in an area that it initially traveled to in a flood event, and has since become “rooted” in place by willow trees, etc…

One of those resultant clogged places, in my opinion and observation, is adjacent to the mouth of Somerville Creek, just downstream from Salmon Creek, which has also been adversely affected by the sudden release of massive gravel amounts from the removal of Benbow dam.

It’s very unnatural, and should be addressed…

Check it out the next time your around.

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2 years ago
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It was my understand, all the gravel you are pointing out was taken away off and out of the river bar and channel:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PpVuGhDq_aM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP_f-DY3vvY

The Real Guest
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2 years ago
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Really…???

No Ed, that’s not what happened…

That gravel backed up nearly to Fish Creek, but definitely above the 101 overpass, and up East Branch.

http://www.questaec.com/projects/benbow-dam-removal/

But you do realize, that suddenly you have pulled a 180° turn, and are suggesting that the approved plan WAS to clear the river channel of the accumulated gravel…

So ,which is it, were they trying to harm the fish, by removing the gravel, or were they trying to improve the habitat?

First maybe picture this…

I could find no pictures of the dam before the locks were installed…

Use your imagination to assess the impounded gravel as it would have been BEFORE the locks were cut in at some point after the mid to late 70’s, and the same structure and elevation of the left hand portion, continued all the way, unbroken, clear across the channel, and the gravel was built up to the top of it all the way across…

When they installed the locks around 1980 +-, a huge amount of gravel escaped downstream…

That was the first huge escape of nearly 50 years of accumulated gravel, (1931+-
to 1980+- )or as much as the basin would hold before it filled and then ran over the dam…

When they removed the dam completely, in what looks like 2016 35+- years after the first release, the rest of it was unleashed… and is now after being impounded for 85+- years, the rest of it is, finally, moving downstream, more or less, naturally, as we speak…

But it hasn’t yet been deposited into the ocean yet, and is continuing to move and stop, periodically, leapfrogging it’s way to the ocean…

There is no way the gravel was all trucked off when the dam was demolished, only the demolished concrete was, and that was a gargantuan feat in, and of itself, that took years.

It’s a good thing that Randall did truck that gravel off…

Wallan also trucked off massive amounts of it from off the river bar behind the PGE and caltrans yard…

It’s still stacked high up in multiple giant piles up in the Meadows Evergreen Park…

The locks were not there in 1974.

Countless fish beat themselves to death against that dam every winter trying unsuccessful to get over it, for 45 + years, before the locks were installed…

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2 years ago
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Here is the finished product 2017:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PbgfCphYvE

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Nice. I still see a great deal of accumulated gravel, just in the portion downstream of east Branch, Don you, they may have trucked some of the gravel away, bit the didn’t remove all of it to be sure…

And if your ok with that, and somebody thought it was a good idea, why would you be averse to it happening elsewhere on the river that it was also obviously necessary, as plenty of others have suggested, including myself, that you have previously staunchly disagreed with…???

Have you changed your mind…

Could that be considered “fluvial geomorphology”…???

Thanks for all the great links and videos…

They were awesome and I enjoyed viewing them…

It seems as though they confirmed my story, Ed, wouldn’t you say …???

Or do you still doubt me…???

Your statement, in rebuttal to mine…

“Benbow Dam was a seasonal dam, that created a seasonal lake only during the summer months May to September each year, it never created a backup of sedimentation.”

…seems to have also been somewhat disproven…

Good talk… And thanks again for the links especially to the videos.

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2 years ago
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It happens…

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2 years ago
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I disagree. The rock quarry in Trinidad blew up a sacred indigenous mountainside , thrusting boulders into the air around children and through cars. Poisons were found In the water, onsite and in the air as a result. The trucks moving the rocks caused incredible nuisances to the whole community.

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2 years ago
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That’s good advice…

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2 years ago

Paraphrasing from John Ford…”Everything is just fine and any data we don’t have is somebody else’s fault. The well-paid people running the show in Humboldt County have done a wonderful job destroying the main economic driver. Now we will work on a press release describing how the unintended consequence of destroying rural property values and taxes was also wonderfully and skillfully managed by your highest-paid public servants. I repeat-Everything is fine!!!”

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2 years ago
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I’m not sure if everybody in County and State government are all on the same page, but there is pressure to reduce the number of licenses around the State. Some regulators (with secure seniority) would rather regulate four farms than 4,000. Then, have you seen the CEO of Scott’s Hawthorn stern freakout in a shareholders video? He obviously wants the States to start cracking down on his competition. Competition that existed prior to his company entering existing, functioning unregulated markets, and competitors who bought enough supplies to encourage Scott’s to acquire weed oriented companies and eventually pursue mega growing.

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2 years ago

Yeah well it’s the idiot kid of the guy who founded Scott’s. Classic story where father builds it out of sweat and kid pisses it away. Screw them anyway and their Hawthorne products and their fertilizer lines. How can you run such a huge business and not have enough sense to predict the price collapse?!
Yes- there has been pressure to reduce the number of farms from when the proposition was crafted. That’s what this corporate “legalization” was always about. The final tell was when the closed door meeting resulted in the tossing out of the 1 acre limitation at state level. Anybody who cannot see the trend since that day must be willingly in denial. Even stuffed-suit Hezekiah finally got the clue about then….It’s weird that anybody can even pretend to themselves that the state Cannabis Control or John Ford or the county or CDFW gives a damn about them. It’s all about money extraction through fees, fines, taxes, anything they can write up as your permit pansy dream gets driven off a cliff. The last hope is to sell out to some corporate entity that wants to claim “Humboldt” in their new federal FDA application…

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…and there’s the notion that may exist in the minds of my hypothetical regulator, and the CEOs of Scott’sHawthorn, and Glass House: that nobody who produced weed in the huge unregulated illegal market had a RIGHT to the business, and that these few large corporations now deserve to be handed exclusive “rights” to do business in the sector.

Farce
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Farce
2 years ago

Well…yeah…of course! That money is rightfully theirs- and they want it ALL

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2 years ago

Where are our state agencies with their monitoring. I’m pro-cannabis, pro-watershed and all for a tax that will give us information. Nothing. Please step up water quality control board: quick to regulate but absent when it comes to the monitoring and reporting and feedback. Come on state agencies, you can do better.

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2 years ago

John Ford and the Planning Department has made this conclusion, on page 9 of 11 in the staff report:

B. Water Use. Between the denial and withdrawal of pre-existing cultivation sites and code enforcement actions to abate illegal cultivation sites, there are fewer cultivation sites in the county than when the county’s permitting process began. Unfortunately, this has not been monitored, but it is likely the impact of these efforts on the health of the county’s watersheds has been positive.

Wow, without any watershed data or monitoring information what so even and have no clue how many illegal cannabis cultivation site are located in the county, everything is fine, nothing to see here. In other words, its “likely” Ford is relieved they did not have the watershed data, so he could spin it in the most “likely” way forward.

It was my understanding, that anyone with a surface water diversion permit, license or riparian water right with the state waterboard was required to disclose how much water was used for the cultivation of cannabis? These reports are published publicly each year.

Here is one example from the Garberville Sanitary District:

https://rms.waterboards.ca.gov/Print_LIC2022.aspx?FORM_ID=623087

And Humboldt County Planning Department cannot monitor or obtain real time information for river and stream flow (CFS) from the various USGS monitoring sites in Humboldt County?

It would seem, everything stated by John Ford and the Planning Department about wastersheds was an excuse to avoid disclosing information for 5 years. How many more years until the public knows the truth and facts?

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The water boards only paid lip service to any quantitative analysis of State water use. From what I remember, around 2013 I heard several segments on the KMUD news about voluntary registration of domestic withdrawals. I never heard anything else. As far as I know it is not mandatory to listen to KMUD regularly. However that is the only time I ever heard anything more about it(until I had the misfortune of talking to Gabriel”mister customer service” at the Water Board phone center. He tried to use a domestic withdrawal as a gotcha when deflecting about an enormous fine based on their error with something totally unrelated.)
Now, my property has maintained a business for 100 years, including registered irrigated farmland, and was even on a County Water Supplier list at one point, has a street address and mail service, yet the Water board was never able to reach the low hanging fruit to get the information they act like they want. Their outreach on the Domestic Withdrawal issue was lame.
I’m sure they have a substantial budget to pay professionals, but if they actually wanted to quantify all domestic use in the State, here’s a suggestion: take all the addresses for private properties that are not in an existing Special District that provides water (like HBMWD, SCRID, GSD, EBMUD, etc. The Water Board can survey their data separately.) Then send a survey, or request for information to each address, use a reasonable interface, and avoid penalizing engagement.

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2 years ago
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Yep, our farm has to meter all water use & take weekly staff gage readings from our lakes and report those to the starte water board annually.

B Honest
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B Honest
2 years ago

How come no one remembers the grand jury report regarding the planning department a few years ago?

They recommend an overhaul of their accounting department.

Why?

They frequently double bill and it takes a year sometime longer to get it corrected.

They take cash payments in a back room. Sorry but that is a tad bit sketchy for any Government agency especially one that makes so many accounting mistakes.

They over bill for their services.
I could go on and on unless you are a new cultivation permit. Then you get discounts on your final bill.

I could give you one example where $13,560 was deducted from a $27,748.77 bill. Adesa Organics.

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2 years ago
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The cash payments in the back room were brought in brown paper bags. 10s of thousands of dollars. There was a counting machine present. The payees were given hand-written receipts. I know several people who did this. Did all the cash make it to the county coffers and accurately recorded? Hmmm….We will never know. Quite a racket for John Ford. Never investigated. Never spoken of- except I sure did put this in the RHBB comment section at that time. So at least we have the historical record as stored by this blog. Maybe someday a historian can point to the Humboldt County Weed Scandal as an historic rip-off to the people of the area….

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2 years ago
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There were multiple counting machines spinning simultaneously.

Change your BOS Humboldt
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Change your BOS Humboldt
2 years ago

Ha, ha, ha! Only in Humboldt County do they spend millions in tax payer money on marijuana programs, compliance, and prosecution and let the growers keep all the profits, paying zero in taxes, later 15%, no late penalties. No wonder there’s no tax payer money left to do things that actually benefit the taxpayers. I can’t believe Humboldt County hasn’t filed bankruptcy by now. You need a new Board of Supervisors. This kind of garbage county legislations has to stop.

Kym Kemp
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2 years ago

Only Humboldt County has this cannabis cultivation tax. Measure S doesn’t exist elsewhere.

Madrone is the best Supervisor in Humboldt
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Madrone is the best Supervisor in Humboldt
2 years ago

I will summarize:

The cannabis economy in Humboldt is dead.

R.I.P.

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Nichole Norris
2 years ago

Wow, important to connect the dots here…https://kymkemp.com/2024/05/06/cdfw-introduces-new-regulation-proposal-to-safeguard-fish-and-wildlife-through-enhanced-lake-and-streambed-agreement-compliance/

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Thanks 🙂 I’ve been dealing with a lot of glitches lately. Hm ha ha

The Real Guest
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2 years ago
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Your welcome.

Happy to do it…