Measure S Cannabis Tax Modification Is Topic of Special Board of Supervisors Meeting – Monday Morning
Last week, Southern Humboldt’s Supervisor Michelle Bushnell recused herself prior to the discussion regarding Measure S. With the controversial conversation about Measure S resting in the hands of the other four supervisors, Southern Humboldt growers must turn their appeals to the other four Supes. It is expected that the Board will decide on Monday during this specially set meeting which cannabis taxes will be forgiven and to what degree.
The staff report states that the board should “develop a Cannabis Excise Tax Suspension/Reduction Program” as well as “direct the [County’s Chief Administrative Officer] to draft a resolution for final review and approval establishing and documenting the program as directed by your Board.” The proposals on the table for the Supes to consider are clearly laid out in two differing options in the staff report.
- Option 1 is a 50% reduction. “An equal percentage of waived excise tax for all cultivators.”
Option number 1 is described as “[I]ncorporating the 31% delinquency allowance, a 50% reduction in all tiers results in an estimated revenue reduction for Tax Year 2021 of 66%, or $13 million. A 75% reduction in all tiers results in an estimated revenue reduction of 83% or $16.5 million, inclusive of the 31% delinquency allowance. Please note that to create a consistent basis for comparison, estimated current billings are based on the current permits for a gross revenue amount of $19.9 million. A 100% reduction in all tiers for Tax Year 2021 simply reduces revenue to $0 and no allowance is necessary for delinquent taxpayers.”
- Option 2 is a tiered reduction of 50%, 25% and 0%. “A stepped reduction to each cultivation tier (Outdoor, Mixed and Indoor).”
The second option is described as “[I]ncorporating the 31% delinquency allowance, a 50-25-0% reduction in the tier steps results in an estimated revenue reduction for Tax Year 2021 of 58% or $11.5 million. A 75-50-25% reduction in the tier steps, results in an estimated revenue reduction for Tax Year 2021 of 75% or $14.9 million.”
At last week’s meeting it was revealed that the four largest permitted farms in the county had not yet paid the 2021 tax, while roughly 80% of the smaller permitted farms had already paid the tax. While there was some speculation as to why this may be, it was understood by the Supes that across the board for outdoor, mixed light or sungrown cannabis, fair market prices were not competitive enough to keep locals afloat, while an abundance of product has consistently made matters worse in a buyer’s market.
The Board could, according to the staff recommendations, “direct staff to re-evaluate the evolving changes in the cannabis market and the impacts to both cultivators and the county’s financial status prior to Tax Year 2022.” The report also states, “Staff recommends delaying action on Tax Year 2022. The current market situation developed quickly, in just a few months and is likely to continue to evolve over the next 6 to 10 months. The CAO’s recommendation is to provide no retroactive waiver of the 2nd installment of Tax Year 2020, to reduce the Tax Year 2021 excise tax by either 50% for all tiers or apply the 50-25-0% tier steps, and to return to your Board in later this year with an evaluation of the implemented tax reduction program in order to consider whether additional adjustments are warranted.”
The Supes will also need to consider feedback as to the county budget, which now relies on the cannabix tax infusions to fund many programs county-wide. For instance, in considering retroactively suspending or reducing taxes of the tax year 2020, the report advises, “Suspending or reducing the tax assessments for Tax Year 2020 is also problematic because 41% of cultivators have paid in full, 31% paid the first installment (due Mar. 15, 2021) but not the second, and 28% paid nothing towards the assessments for 2020. To uniformly administer such a waiver, refunds or credits would be necessary for cultivators who have already paid. With cannabis excise taxes collected through Dec. 31, 2021, at only $2.3 million, a refund of just one of the Tax Year 2020 installments would result in payments or tax credits of $3.65 million and create a negative revenue total for FY 2021-22 of an estimated $1.3 million and potentially make budget adjustments necessary immediately.”
Measure S funds are combined into the general fund, and so “the source of revenue is tracked but the activities are not tied to the revenue source.” These funds are not earmarked for specific projects, although are expected to be routed to particular community projects such as Project Trellis, and other Cannabis-related business and entrepreneurial activities. Although detailed tracking of Measure S funds is not done, county staff has, “for information and budgetary purposes, identified certain funds that have been budgeted and available because of the additional revenue including Measure S.”
From small farms to relatively larger cannabis scenes, many growers in the heart of the Emerald Tringe are looking ahead to March, April and May, wondering if they will continue to plant the next garden. After having lobbied the Supervisors with vocal opposition to the tax, the growers and their affiliated businesses, dependent community programs, individual families and peripheral community members who rely on the stability of Humboldt’s cannabis market have perhaps one more opportunity to let the Supes hear their concerns.Having been advised by county council as well as her own legal counsel, Bushnell decided to take the recommended course of action and remove herself from the meeting due to her personal conflict of interest in having a permitted cannabis farm in Southern Humboldt.
Supervisor Bushnell received pushback from Sohum farmers dismayed at the idea that the supervisor they considered most qualified to represent them would not be weighing in on the matter.
While Supervisor Bushnell acknowledged last week that her representation of the cannabis community was a priority for her, she also indicated that she needed to eliminate the possibility that a vote on the Measure S tax modification could be overturned due to her involvement – which would prolong the process and inevitably cause additional strife for cannabis farmers. Executive Director of the Humboldt County Grower’s Alliance, Natalynne DeLapp criticized the decision by Bushnell, saying in part, “…it is because you are a farmer, because you’ve been doing great work for the 2nd District, and because the farmers throughout the county go to you for representation, that not having you as part of the discussion–as their representative was such a loss (and frankly came as a surprise to all of us).” At the time of publishing, under short notice, Supervisor Bushnell was not available for further comment. Additionally, an attempt to reach DeLapp of HCGA for comment was also unsuccessful on short notice.
For clarification, the tax year 2022 is billed in February, of 2023, with the first installment due in March of 2023, and the second installment then due October. The previous year’s taxes work the same way. Taxes for last year, 2021, would be billed this month, in February of this year with the first installment due next month, in March, and then the second payment due October later this year.
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Keep the Tax’s cuz all these local wanna be legal guys wanted this keep giving it to them especially how there messing with the environment and the water ways they need to pay for the damage they cause if it can be fixed!!!
Environmental damage 😂😂😂😂 You been to some black market grows ???? Give me a break! There are bad apples on both sides of the market! Generally the difference is they know your name if you’re legal .
Everyone that signed up for permits agreed to follow the county requirements and pay taxes. This bought them some protection. They used this protection to move product out the back door and flood the black market like never before. Now they want to cry about taxes. Imagine the outcry if they were suddenly no longer able to sell product on the black market! They would be expected to pay taxes AND follow the law! The horror!
No ticky, no shirty.
Pay up.
Don’t want to pay the taxes?
Bow out.
Can’t bow out?
Change that.
Change it so people can bow out.
But they gotta pay like they promised to pay, first.
None of this bullshit- you- don’t-have to-pay-next-year-if-you-pay-this-year-nonsense.
You pay, or your done playing.
If you don’t have to pay to play, then everyone must be allowed to play and no one has to pay, not just certain people.
Its impossible to feel sorry for the arrogant entitled. Dope growers who havent paid taxes in decades. I am not sorry you may have to plan. Budget and take risk like the legitimate people have been doing all along. Oh and we have to bid against people who cut corners and pinch pennies to bring a price to the table. Sometimes we work very cheap. All the while paying taxes…. Oh we dont get yearly vacations in exotic lands. Welcome to reality. Put down the pipe. And roll up your sleeves
You cant quailify for auto or home loans if you dont pay income tax. The bigger black market guys claim around 80K and take the standard deduction.
Stereotype much ? 😂😂😂
100%^^ this.
You paid for protection to blow out the market. And shrugged when
“bad actors” who didn’t pay got rolled.
Well now. there is only 1 way in this legal Market To distinguish:
“Good guys”
from
“Bad actors”.
MONEY$. you bought the ticket now you gotta pay for it .
Place a Fed in there as a “legal distro” and they could indict the entire county in 6 months. Shoot, you can cold call one of these people and they’ll tell you all of the federally illegal shit they’ve done over the last 20 years within the first 3 minutes. And you’re a complete stranger! It’s wild.
They had no real option. The majority of voters are not growers. An uninvolves group of voters made this absurd regulation law.
How was it not an option to keep going like we had for decades?
Agreed! I didn’t vote for legalization ! But yet here we are!
All the more reason why the 14th Amendment was a travesty…
so does this mean if i get enough people together were i work an cry about the taxes we pay that the county will forgive them too, this is total bullshit. this was the whole reason for legalizing this shit in the first place. our supervisors are cowards especially rex and michell
Yes, if you get enough people on your side you could also eliminate a tax you didn’t like
Anyone who thoguht the reason for legalization was or should be outrageous taxation is a immoral person. The reason for legalziation should have been because it was the right thing to do (not the way we did it of course).
All admitted pot farmers, on the Board of Supervisors, should recuse themselves from this discussion. Rex Bohn should just resign.
In Lake County, action was taken last week:
https://www.lakeconews.com/news/71607-supervisors-to-accept-resolution-to-postpone-cannabis-tax-payments-get-report-from-rcrc-leadership
But with the other hand, in Lake County, they approve nearly every permit, and huge farms are being approved…
It’s America! If you don’t make enough money, make more money!
Simple economics and competition, will level backyard pot farms everywhere… Taxation will finish the job.
Black market will rule, as long as there are places where pot is illegal, and as long as there are no consistent laws and taxes, countrywide…
Marijuana will eventually be legal everywhere, and only legalization of all drugs will calm the waters beginning to churn all around us…
The government started out by requiring a prescription, now they want to tax you out of existence!
No drug should have to be prescribed by a doctor who charges $300 for an appointment, but can everyone with a piece of land make their living growing a useless plant?
Marijuana should be freely available, at the Farmer’s Market, for $25/pound.
Remember, you can grow your own supply, and quite easily…
Beautiful photos of Cannabis Trees!
Smoking is very unhealthy, please just eat it…
What a joke! We had 215 laws that were easy to manipulate and make work to our advantage. Then we we get to pay some fees and deal with paperwork to grow with impunity. Lots of money is made, assets bought and paid for and plenty of vacation days. Things start to get a little tight, but MTRC is such a joke it can too can be manipulated to look like we haven’t produced any viable product as we backdoor every last gram, tax free. Now things get a little tight, as should have been expected from any half intelligent operator in the business and all of a sudden “we can’t survive!”, “This is unfair!”. Nobody gives a shit. We’ve had it way to easy for far to long. For real, what does this tax break actually do? Put some 10’s of thousands back in your pocket? Allow another year of living like a rock star? Prices aren’t going up. Humboldt weed isn’t getting any more popular. At some point, the state might even give half a shit and try to keep farms from diverting to the black market. That’s a whole other topic……. If you are permitted and sell black market, you are NOT allowed to utter a damn thing about “can’t compete with the black market”. Hell, you are the black market. Take what money you have made and invest it wisely and live the life you worked all these years for. Don’t die in this legal bullshit game.
Permit gardens make sick. I stood next to these guys getting legal . Now they complain. Lmao and yes most illegal. And now there’s a bill trying to make over 6 plants felony. Thank all your legal? Farms. What a joke. Kym take down your donation sign. Your greed is horrible. Yuck
I know you probably imagine that because I work over 70 hours a week, I make a lot of money. But, I use donations to be able to pay writers to provide content (which I’m guessing from your unpleasant comment, you don’t pay a cent for.) And I make less in donations than I pay people to write stories. And my permitted farm lost money.
So what I see is someone that doesn’t mind asking people to work long hours for free while you insult them. I don’t ask for a subscription because I know not everyone can afford to pay and everyone needs to know the news. But, even though I try and meet misunderstanding with kindness, it’s hard to see someone sneer at me and our talented writers who are trying to provide good content for very little money.
Please, vote with your fingers…if you don’t like what we do here, don’t read for free.
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Thank you! I am sorry about the rant but I haven’t had a full night’s sleep in about a week and I don’t have the patience that I should have
You are the last person around here who needs to apologize. This site has always been run professionally and more than fair to the angry people/trolls who sometimes comment.
Thank you for keeping us all informed and please ignore the haters.
Thanks for the kind words. They help.
Your work is very much appreciated
Thank you.
You’ve done nothing but keep the community informed (and how is that wrong again?).
I’m grateful for that a** — it reminded me to donate again.
And if your son ever decides he wants to grow legal outside the Triangle, but still in the beautiful mountains, we have the profitable spot/model and an amazing growing team. Feel free to use my email.
JB
Thanks. Kym. If you value RHBB as the community resource that it is, please donate if you can.
Kym, may I encourage all your readers to subscribe, not just donate? Ms Kemp receives a subscription payment from me on the 30th ( or 20th?) of each month in a set amount through PayPal so she can schedule her payments to freelance journalists or budget if need be. I consider her work to be invaluable to the community, even though she has to lay the smack down on my smart ass comments from time to time, and from time to time I don’t always agree with her perspective. That’s okay. I don’t have to agree with her to value her time and effort. Invest in our community and our enlightenment.
Subscribing is really helpful. Then I have a better idea of what I can spend on freelancers every month.
Be funny if feds came in and just siezed all their property. They would crush. They most illegal
nice work Kym!
Nice plants Kym!
My son is a talented grower.
Is that a 2nd big buck to the right of the 1st between the rows?
Yes it is. And there was a third buck there also.
I’ve heard of passing the buck. But apparently those bucks don’t pass by your son’s garden without stopping in. 😉
Kym, I recall someone mentioning your family farm should use your name for branding. I could not agree more. I’d definitely look to support the farm as your website makes a greater contribution to the triangle than any other person/group/business I can think of. RHBB is my go to website and could easy be my goto and most recommended brand if it could be found on a shelf for sale. Thanks
We’re currently working with HPRC in Eureka and Arcata and seeing if we can make something work to put our buds on their shelves.
Only 10k and under cultivation deserve a tax break which is not even an option. So, when is the abatement scheduled for the 4 large farms that did not pay their taxes last year?
Anything else helps corporate continue to fuck over small mom n pops. Fix it!!!! We are watching.
Yes, the 4 largest grows need to pay their taxes! There should be a limit on amount grown, maybe it would even things out? The 4 largest growers should not have their taxes reduced or forgiven!
Ryan can you please Expound on this topic you mentioned it and I would like to know any facts you have about this “extensive history “.
“Supervisor Rex Bohn – who, like Bushnell, has extensive local history in the cannabis community – spoke at last week’s meeting while discussing Measure S, stating he was in favor of forgiving taxes “next year” if current taxes due were paid up in full.”
“F legal growers! We pay taxes too! We never cry about the taxes us working folk pay!”
– you do not pay a flat rate fee yearly for your business that is set based solely on the sq footage of your business. We pay state taxes/ federal taxes, income, sales taxes,” permit fees”, income taxes, workers comp, insurance, waterboard fees, AND this ridiculous sq footage tax.
STFU and go back to work. You do not pay shit compared to the legal growers.
Oh I forgot property taxes. which go up every year for making my own property ‘up to compliance’ for the county
Sure but you agreed to that going in and the taxes you paid helped to bust people who were excluded from going legal due to parcel size, prime ag soil, and other location limitations. And you went along with legalization even after the capon farm size was removed from the law.
You chose to try to profit at other peoples expense under unjust laws.
So should I have gotten out after spending 200k to achieve legalization? Because when most of us started the process there was a cap on the acreage until 2023 ! And no OGs I know have gotten “ busted” for years … Be glad you didn’t get legal , you still have funds left in your retirement.
And you paid all of that 200K before the cap was removed?
I have funds in my retirement because I am a contractor. I could not have afforded to go legal unless I had been an illegal mega grower.
Yes, we began the legalization process in 2017 . Our funds were from a property we sold, we both work full time as well as operate our farm with our daughter. Well, until recently…at 275$ a lb we are loosing $$$. Although I don’t believe reducing or deferring taxes are going to turn this around. Toooooo much product THAT is the problem!
I know several people who were busted by the eye in the sky.
Are you asking the supervisors to go back to having different enforcement priorities than what state law dictates? Or just asking for tax relief? Are you asking that cap on farm size be instituted in Humboldt county?
Maybe if legal and illegal growers came together things could get done more easily? I admit Im no longer actively involved in these issues.
Truthfully, I don’t know what the answer is 🤷♀️ I want to believe there’s a successful resolution, but as a business person, all I have to do is run the numbers and know that Big Corp has effectively run us small farmers out of this business. I only have to look on my road in particular. We were all small farmers , now our own friends and neighbors have became “mega grows “ most 100k square foot +++. So I guess shame on our BOS and shame on us for letting it happen.
Plus, we are required to employ/pay….. engineers, consultants, lawyers, biologists, carpenters (for the buildings we are required to have), lumber and hardware suppliers, cartographers, heavy equipment operators, electricians, delivery services, accountants, laborers, etc.
This is NOT like other businesses, and you can NOT compare the regulations and burdens put upon the cannabis the way you can other businesses.
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Credit to Humboldt County Growers Alliance for the email addresses and the info below that.
Consider it a luxury tax. You pay more in taxes for alfalfa if you’re going to feed it to a horse. The government also taxes alcohol and tobacco to recoup losses. Some taxes are meant as a deterrent
“This is not like other business”
Yeah we know it’s a cash based business built on black market sales/distro for a flower product.
now you can’t compete with OR, OK , Now in 2022 VT.
and your not subsidized because it’s not an essential ( food ) agricultural product
You waiving taxes you signed up and agreed to pay is not an option. Why? because you reaped the benefits of selling your “legal” weed while others got busted for doing the same thing you did.
If you don’t pay your taxes whats the difference between “legal” and “illegal” farms.
NOTHING.
Knowingly getting into a market that was over saturated and built on exporting your product to black markets where you could get more per pound ( because it was illegal and criminal groups made money off it ) was a risk.
White market is oversupplied
Black market is oversupplied
Growing more weed and not paying taxes you signed up for is the answer ?
You are sadly misinformed and/or have a grudge.
There are too many aspects of your comments to try and correct tonight. Maybe tomorrow.
Briefly. A couple differences between permitted and non-permitted farms is that the environmental and business practices at the legal farm are much better, which benefits the land and employees alike. Plus there are LOTS of other agencies who get our money, not just the county (who just take the LARGEST amount). So, get real!
More later, if I can stomach it.
Big deal.
If you dump it out the back door like every “legal” farm does, then it’s nothing more than smoke and mirrors. You bought a free pass to blow it up.
…. you signed up and agreed to pay (taxes on square footage) because it allowed you to reap the benefits of selling your “legal” weed while others got busted for doing the very same thing you did! Your neighbors got jacked, while you had 5 more years of green rush.
Now life’s hard? Join the club.
Ben round
You write:
“A couple differences between permitted and non-permitted farms is that the environmental and business practices at the legal farm are much better.”
Uh how ? I know tons of local
Growers ( small food and farmers market ) that are truly following regenerative principles. Some of them even pull some deps to subsidize their ag endeavors and food farms with a cash infusion. They dropped their permits when it became obvious that the state was going to bow to corporations and permit 5 + acre grows.
Most of the massive legal growers I know are so focused on producing tons that they literally don’t even recycle. All garbage from a 40 person work crew is taken to the landfill. No composting no recycling.
Hyper focused on
price dumping boxes out the back
And get some pallets of the cheapest salt based fertilizer to pump into smart pots.
Some legal farms are amazing ( it’s obvious who they are and if your one of them Ben Round good on you !)
Good luck this season , we need more love and compassion in this world so I will say .. I wish you well and hope your farm produces not only sellable pounds, but also happiness .. kiss blowing emoji
When we began the legal process (2017) the market was not saturated and there was a cap on the acreage. So perhaps if Humboldt had not taken three long years to permit my farm when the prices were still very good we could have survived. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t believe not paying my Measure S tax is going to save my farm, in fact I do pay it . But don’t believe that we’d knowingly get into a business that has no successful outcome for a small farm!
Sorry to hear that, and thanks for the polite and well written reply.
Seriously. Courtesy and manners go a long way, bravo loc
I’ll take some notes an try to be more civil.
Hoping you continue with your hard work and it pays off for you and your family
You were remiss in your research. You were unprofessional. The cap was only suggested in the proposition. It was never guaranteed. It was always going to be the decision of a board appointed by the governor ie. corporate-friendly. There was debate here about that. I was nearly the only voice pointing out this reality. I was called “negative” and “pessimistic” and such while Kym and other true believers pushed the hopeful, cheery optimism. Sorry if you got caught in that false good-feeling dream but that is no way to make serious business decisions! The saturation was also bound to happen soon enough. To ignore that equates to another foolish business decision. So…yeah you and many others were quite foolish and naive.
Exactly! If a legal grower chooses to not grow a year…. they still have to pay numerous permit fees, or loose them ! Having owned a restaurant, I will tell you that there is NO other business taxed to this degree!
Thank you for that knowledgable input Locals Only!
👍👍👍
Whe. Will someone take the county to task for failing to properly uses the funds from measure S? They completely screwed up the process to get a marketing campaign going to promote local cannabis with these funds, and none of the money is going where it is supposed to, which is to help the industry..that is the big question that needs to be raised: hold them accountable for how they are misusing funds and be as loud as you can about it, bring that issue to the attention of anyone who needs to know about it and you’ll get better results…accountability is a heck of a motivator to do the right thing..
Seriously they gave themselves raises and employed a lot of people with the funds to do the marketing but no actual marketing..like zero
The supes “we’ll weigh the options” stance tells me they are not likely to do anything. Could be wrong.
nothing more permanent than temporary government over-reach. “Doing nothing” is a long held tenant in all of this. Just like the DMV. Libs and hippies were all about questioning government over-reach. But when money is involved, values get lost in the shuffle.
There was a little bit of a green-rush. Some folks made it work for em, others not so much (myself included)… But the people that steal or pushed hard drugs, or didnt pay workers, or made women feel uncomfortable at a scene… That kind of entitlement was kinda lame. So a shakeout is coming? Could be a positive, imho. Lowering the taxes will just lower prices more at this point.
That’s a nice buck!
There were three but I couldn’t capture them all.
Again. How does Natalynne or anyone else not see the obvious conflict of interest in Michelle Bushnells position? Someone actually does something ethical in Humboldt and nobody can understand why. Looking forward on seeing all of you losers go out of business.
DeLapp should be fired for not addressing this crazy tax scheme years ago. It’s finally getting attention once it is too late. If this tax is unjust (which I agree with) then why has it not been an issue previously? In some sense, it is the license holder’s fault as you have agreed to the situation (taking a permit and agreeing to pay this absurd tax). DeLapp is a failed leader and the industry tanked on her watch. If she isn’t fired then this is the fault of all HCGA members. Do the right thing and bring in new leadership to shake the status quo up.
As for Bushnell, she should be recalled. Why did she run if she wasn’t going to vote on the issues she was voted into office for??? She had plenty of time to secure a solid, broad FPPC letter, which is what has happened in Trinity. One of our Supervisors has a farm and he got a great FPPC letter and he votes on cannabis matters so long as the agenda item isn’t singularly benefiting his farm. So sorry to see this shitshow in Humboldt.
Again dude. There’s something called a legal conflict of interest that requires Michelle to recuse herself. Is the weed industry so grossly corrupt that they can’t comprehend ethical requirements? Lol.
The conflict of interest does not apply when the issue is a broad economic activity and the vote does not singularly benefit the business of the person casting the vote. It’s like a rancher or farmer voting on broad issues about ranching or farming. Happens all the time.
I gave you a real example: Trinity County supervisor Brown has a cannabis farm and votes on cannabis matters all the time. We have viscous haters here and don’t think he would be doing it if it wasn’t legal. I’ve read his FPPC letter and it is clear.
So sorry you are misinformed. It seems to be the zeitgeist in Humboldt at the moment. I still can’t believe the permit holders didn’t object to the crazy tax years ago. It was unjust then as it is now. If prices go back up then will the permit holders be okay paying the punitive tax again? I hope not.
When “We” go out of business, Humboldt goes out of business! Be careful what you wish for …. ya know, karma and all that .
I keep on hearing Cal Poly Humboldt is going to keep the economy here afloat but the enrollment is down from 2015. It was like over 8k students back then and we are down to 5k. I wonder how many students came here because of the cannabis culture?
No. You aren’t really anybody we need. [edit] You ran over your neighbors and made bad business decisions based on greed and stupidity. Quit pretending you are somebody important. All we want is your tax money but now you don’t want to pay that?! You can go belly up and go away…we will be fine. Goodbye!
Pushing it, Farce. Avoid personal insults.
Haha …. you don’t even know me .Or maybe you do being that my family has been here for decades! I know exactly how it goes around here . And our farm is being over shadowed by persons we don’t even know…. the neighborhood our daughter grew up in is no longer even safe for kids ! Could we have stopped this? Not alone, not alone .Don’t judge someone until you’ve walked in their shoes .
As a small ( under 10k) grower, I would like to know why the four largest farms have not been forced to pay their taxes? Who are they? And are any of them associated with any of the BOS ?
Quite simply, there should be NO TAX except a sales tax. If they (BOS) want to create a special sales tax the can put that to the voters. The current tax on sqft is ludicrous, unfair and frankly stupid.
Sure, but in keeping with that there should be no minimum aceerage or prime ag soil requirement. Nor should there be such a small limit on personal grows, and there must be a cap on farm size.
All must go together. Releleveing the tax burden from those who already had enogh money to go legal without adressing the other problems with the law is not right.
Sales taxes are regressive.
Increase the tax for dope growers! Start tax lean sale of the property who don’t pay. Bulldoze the no permitted outlaws. Clean up Humboldt!
No one is growing poppies. Not much dope produced here at all, if any.
Wow the supes are actually discussing this Measure S extortion scheme. Really a kick in the nuts to start with against anyone trying to go legal. And it was and is. There will always be a reasonable price for black or legal market for absolutely gorgeous high THC beautiful buds. So if I was in the legal grower’s boat I’d paddle that way. The market is flooded with limp dick and lame, rained on moldy, turd buds. If that’s all ya can grow well maybe farming is not really your purview.
But you see, not many grew up with the outstanding cannabis grown here in Humboldt! I’ve had friends from out of the area willing to pay for crap that we would throw in the trim pile . There is a huge market for crappy cannabis sadly. If your budget only allows for McDonalds then that’s what you buy . People have become relatively unappreciative of quality product, unless they can get it for a penny !
Props for using the word “purview”😁! Vocabulary may be your purview.
If the goal is to persuade illegal mj farmers to become legal mj farmers, then lower taxes and streamlined permit process is the way to go.
Ha ha! That ship sailed the day this particular form of corporate- friendly “legalization” was voted in. The state Cannabis Control Board set up by the proposition is run by the governor’s appointees. It will always favor the wealthy lobbyists. That’s who immediately rescinded the acreage cap! All of this complaining at county level is useless and moot. Should have stood together back then! Now it is over. Kind of weird how now people want to do what they didn’t do then and fix something now but it’s way too late…are they all weed smokers and laggers or what?
Sups decided to postpone 2021 tax payment with no penalty and to cut 2022 taxes by 85%.
Don’t change the tax’s on these Commercial grows especially the environmental impact it’s having locally, but let alone with climate change!!! how is it ok to think it’s not effecting the eel river having grow’s on the river banks and think it’s not leaching into our river and creeks but ocean, and anyone can get on public records and visually see farms on google or hunt on X and see where the run off go’s after the rain leaches the man made chemical’s into our water ways so tax em to the fullest for the effects there causing, and then save the redwooods should sue the county just like how they tried with the Moto track next to the redwoods In phillipsville for polluting the water and tree’s that provides the redwoods water and air, but just look at the Cannabis farms not even a mile up stream from farms that are in miranda but then in garberville and Benbow and up off the creek’s in Blocksberg and alderpoint it’s shocking, but how do you think it’s ok to let the board change the tax’s to not help our county try to fix the environmental impact it holds after there harvest’s just cause there cannabis owners and they don’t think it’s not a big part of our environmental impact, How????
Too late, Sups already approved an 85% tax cut for 2022 taxes.
Cool- they fell for the bullshit crybaby hysterics. Now the permit pansy growers can blow more money on piles of cocaine and expensive luxuries until next year when the problem is even worse. It will help nobody…the game is over for these permit pansies and their consultant parasites
It sounds like the game is simply about doing more with less.
No matter where you go there are small businesses competing with the conglomerate corporate model.
When The Energy costs go up the ability compete comes down to labor and materials.
We are challenged to stay competitive.
Government hand in the till, just for the ability to put it on the line
Oh boy you sure sound bitter.