Flash Unmasking Mob Disrupts Grocery Store
Last Sunday, October 10, at the ENF grocery store in McKinleyville, tension over mask wearing during the COVID-19 pandemic escalated as it has many times before in other places into what some described as a peaceful protest and others described as a mob.
“I was just in line at the cashiers,” one customer of the store, Gillian Levy, explained. “One of the fellows that is just a character that I’ve seen around town pulled off his mask.” She said that the man started yelling. “A bunch of people took their masks off and chanted, too,” she said. “It seemed really staged. It seemed like a flash mob.”
The video she took showed a man claiming that wearing a mask “violated our constitutional rights.”
Levy told us, “He was saying a whole bunch of crazy stuff.”
The video she took captures her telling him “this was a private establishment.” Many people besides Levy have argued that telling people to wear a mask in a private business is no different than rules frequently cited such as “No shirt, no shoes, no service.”

Protesters stages a flash unmasking Sunday at ENF in McKinleyville. [Screenshots from video by Gillian Levy]
Levy told us, “I was so mad. I started videoing. I started arguing.” She said she was angry that the man “was yelling in my face with no mask on.”
When Levy, who said she had a degree in biology, tells the protest leader, “I believe in fucking science,” he responds, “Let me tell you about science…They’re liars. Fauci is a liar…Gates is a liar…It’s about eugenics…world domination… .”
According to Malia Sievers, a clerk at the store, a lone protestor had preceded the 10 to 15 people involved in the Flash Unmasking not long before. “There was a person in the store squatting down and he had a mask below his [chin],” she told us. “My boss asked him to pull it up. ‘What? You don’t want me to breathe?’ the guy said.”
According to Sievers, the man moved towards her boss in an aggressive manner. “That’s when I stepped in,” she said. When her boss went to go get a manager to deal with the upset man, “he was getting in my face like he wanted to fight me,” Sievers told us. “I called 911.”
Unfortunately, the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Department was occupied dealing with a homicide.
A store manager came, however, and succeeded in escorting the lone protestor off the premises. The manager, then went on a break, and the flash unmasking group filmed above arrived while he was gone.
“About 10-15 people showed up,” Sievers said. “They ripped off their masks…The guy who seemed like a ringleader was already banned [from the store previously].”
Sievers said she felt threatened and betrayed by the shouting crowd. “I’ve helped these people for over 10 years,” she explained. “[And,] I didn’t feel safe…All I felt they wanted was fear and blood.”
She said that she screamed at the protesters trying to be heard over their chants that if they didn’t wear masks, they couldn’t purchase items.
After about five to ten minutes, she said, the protestors left the store. “There were like 5 to 10 shopping carts around the store they left,” she told us. “Some of the people walked out [with items] without paying. We gave video to the police.” (As of Thursday, the Sheriff’s Department said, “We are actively conducting follow up on this case right now actually. I don’t see any information about items stolen or security footage in our system, but it may just have not been uploaded yet.”)
Later in the week, she wrote on McKinleyville Community Watch, a Facebook page,
To those who chose to have a mask protest at ENF in McKinleyville on Sunday October 10. I just want you all to know that the only thing you accomplished was cause trauma and unnecessary mental stress for your fellow community members who are actually working to help you day after day. The fact that your aggression, foul language, and complete disrespect was directed at ME and my co-workers shows your lack of knowledge, maturity and just how self-centered you all are. You have no idea how scary it was having an angry mob of people’s energy directed right at you.
(The post and the extensive comment response have since been removed.)
Sievers said she decided to come forward and speak publicly about the protest because she’s exhausted with having to deal with smaller scale hostility from a few shoppers frequently. “In ENF in the past month…month and a half…everyone who wears their masks below [their nose] wants to fight. The front folks [the cashiers and stockers] get yelled at and cussed at every day.”
The protest felt like a personal attack to her. “That was terrorizing,” she told us. “I did feel not respected…like me and our coworkers weren’t worth much…I feel pounded on.”
This group protest, she said, was even worse than the random arguments from individual customers. “It was premeditated,” she told us. “People in our community gathered to act like that and be really cruel to us.”
She said she didn’t understand why the demonstrators would direct their protest at the cashiers. “If they have to do it at ENF, do it outside in front,” she urged. “Or go to city and county where the rules are made.”
Levy also wondered why the protesters were at the store. “Why are they harassing the nice people at the natural food store who don’t have any control over the rules?” she asked.
Front line workers, such as grocery store clerks, who are often paid near minimum wage, and are some of the most at risk of contracting COVID-19 are tasked with also handling customers angry about the mask mandates.
Tension between the two camps has added to the already heavy burden local law enforcement must carry. Stretched thin, sometimes they must choose as they did Sunday between responding to a homicide or to an angry protest inside a store.
Tensions have also led to physical assaults in multiple cases.
According to Samantha Karges, spokesperson for the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Department speaking to us back in July, she “found approximately 73 calls for service relating to masks. This includes assaults, verbal altercations, unwanted subjects not leaving businesses, and people calling to report others not wearing masks.”
She described one such event:
On July 1, 2021, at about 2:15 p.m. Humboldt County Sheriff’s deputies were dispatched to a business on the 900 block of Redwood Drive in Garberville for the report of an assault that had just occurred. According to an employee of the business, a female suspect entered the business and was asked to wear a mask due to State COVID-19 requirements. The female reportedly became upset, left the store, and then returned with a mask. According to the employee, the female continued to be discourteous to the employee and was asked to leave the store. As the employee assisted the female out of the store, the female reportedly struck the employee multiple times causing injury to her face. A friend of the employee who was in a vehicle outside the store witnessed the incident and attempted to intervene. The friend was also struck by the female and also sustained injury to her face.
At the time, Karges told us, “The suspect has been identified and the case has been forwarded to the District Attorney’s Office for review and warrant determination.”
We reached out to one person who involved in the protest. She did not agree to our requests to interview her. She did say that she had been a member of the protest and had commented below Sievers’ post but, she said, “I left after being silenced and ridiculed by my own community simply for having a different opinion.”
Another person contacted us saying in an email, “If you’re going to do a story on the mask mutiny event at Eureka Natural Foods, you should probably mention the fact that they [meaning ENF] do not respect medical exemptions, which is in violation of the mandate, and have filmed and harassed several customers that are medically exempt from wearing a mask when they attempted to shop there. That fact may have something to do with their being targeted for that protest.”
The California Department of Public Health states that the exceptions to wearing a mask indoors include “Persons with a medical condition, mental health condition, or disability that prevents wearing a mask. This includes persons with a medical condition for whom wearing a mask could obstruct breathing or who are unconscious, incapacitated, or otherwise unable to remove a mask without assistance.” (See the entire list here.)
We reached out to ENF late Friday but hadn’t heard back at the time of this posting.
For Gillian Levy, the customer who videoed the flash unmasking Sunday seen above, she says that though she feels she was justifiably frustrated, she isn’t proud of yelling back at the protestors. “We’ve all had enough of the blatant lies,” she said. “We are all at the end of our rope from hearing this stuff.. But I don’t think I solved any problems there.”
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“I have a degree in biology and I believe in fucking science” Huh, I wasn’t aware you needed a degree to have sex. Ya learn something everyday.
Right before she accuses them of “drinking the koolaid”…
I didn’t wear a mask yesterday. I didn’t run around a store with my mouth open either. Grow up. If you can’t wear a mask you are either weak, or unbearably pretty.
Kind of hard to drink koolaid with a mask on.
So…you’re saying it’s acceptable to run around a store with your mouth closed?
Not quite sure what you’re saying. Are you denigrating mouth-breathers in general (which seems kind of discriminatory — are you a bigot?), or maybe I’m missing some kind of inside joke about running in a store?
Your comment is all over the place. Are you saying you didn’t go anywhere yesterday, or are you saying you’re unbearably pretty?
As far as the can’t vs. won’t argument, I’m a sixty-one year old man who’s had cancer twice, survived numerous car wrecks and industrial accidents, but I’m willing to bet I can beat you in any number of tests of strength, mental and physical.
Especially since, during the trials, you’ll apparently be wearing a mask and I won’t. Good luck!
I have a hard time believing people can’t wear masks. It’s more likely they won’t. I have severe asthma and I wear a mask every day. It is a minor inconvenience. The difference between inconvenience and oppression is really much larger than “cover your mouth and nose on our property”.
I only wish there were more long-term events for anti-maskers to get together away from the rest of us intent on actually staying alive without long-term complications. A two-week Festival of the Dumb or Anti-Masquerade seems like it would only improve public discourse by eliminating those who insist on putting themselves in harm’s way. Is it eugenics? No, it’s survival of the fittest.
Especially the tests having to do with drunk driving. I hear Steve’s got lots of experience in those…
Ok it’s ON! I WILL WEAR A MASK, and you won’t. But let’s do it Greco Roman style! In the nude. We can rub down with Ben Gay, and canola oil first. In the parking lot in front of the ENF. We don’t have to as actually wrestle in the store, because it’s hard for you to breath IN THERE. I’ll be there waiting today at 4:30. I’ll be the one in a Pelosi mask. I will look for the muscled OG with a runny nose. Eat your oatmeal tough guy!
Well drinking the koolaid was just decriminalized in Arcata.
Golly folks, ya gotta go make me ashamed of McKinleyville? Ca’mon this is California. This 2021. Get with the program and help us end the pandemic by WEARING A MASK IN PUBLIC AND GETTING VACCINATED. The life you save may be your own.
Jerks!!! If they won’t get vaccinated the LEAST they can do is leave the damned Mask ON!!!!! The life you save may be your own or someone you care about!!!
Lots of people that are really mad about the mask thing are people who are vaccinated and expected to be done with masks.
Oh, waaah! I expected to be done with masks! Deal with it. I expected to be done with covid a looong time ago, we all did.
And you’re free to express that however you see fit. Just like these people. What they did doesn’t seem like an effective tactic to make their point to me but they are free to do it. We’ll see if the local law enforcement apparatus decides that they violated any laws
Right this is nothing worse than a black lives matter protest
Yer comment made no sense, son.
If you aren’t someone’s father, calling them “son” is patronizing, boy.
True I am unvaccinated but take masks seriously. I’m not putting one on my 2 year old though sorry.
Even if they ARE vaccinated, they need to wear their masks properly.
Since masks work so well, I’m assuming you’ll ace this test. Oh, wait a minute. No you won’t.
COVID Charts Quiz
Dropping more religious tracts are we. Nobody wants to take the stupid test
“Nobody wants to take the stupid test”
For obvious reasons. Case closed
Ewwwwww Covid CHARTS Quiz is at 3 negatives
In the future it will have 1 on the positive from me <*>+× if you want you can email me at [email protected]
You guys are silly. And I am too.. What are you waiting your (taste of) time on. Wish we will worn, won win, when we warn which wish we want wisely where we we’re whole. Wishes win, while winners whine white woes… Weird. Was…… What went with windy winds wishoning with wishing *WELLs* worth: WORLDS ?
Now, to all of you, I say the answer: if it’s always going to be, end up, or already right now experience, dreams and wishes that are spread like communicable communications perfectedly in perfect ways,… we are becoming What could be known as: everyone.
To:everyone
The universe L0ves yOu.
Don’t take this, or yourselves, too seriously.
Life is short, with, long-lasting lessons-learned.
GOD & me: think all of you guys are cool. And the holy-spirit in me is saying to ALL of YOU: I love you…now….then….on your birth, eons of past memories, and into the future for 1 second, 1 minute, 1hour, 1day, 1 week, 1 month, 1 year…….want you, especially you, to know: I LOVE you! And Am still in love; loving you, yes especially you, please forgive me everyone, I’m being silly, and who knows this is just God’s humorous way of saying.
♡ ☆●◇○☆•☆¿♧ ♤
What was the original topic? Oh yes, the answer that is right will always be a yes. So yes. I wore a mask, will I wear a mask forever icant say for certain. Being human in a way is like a dream where we all are already wearing masks that hopefully we will all learn to appreciate and respect naturally. Love can be a mask. Our sight can be shown to appear as a type of mask.
If we were all blind, would we still care if one wears a mask or not. If you see a mask on someone do you often wonder what it is that they might be hiding from. IF COVID WAS just an excuse for allowing them to hide and be even more anonymous.
I wear a mask, and not the metaphor of what I call my body to ultimately be, but I wear a mask right now because I’m going along with the status-quo. I want to fit in. The peer pressure was too much, so, I wear a mask still. But in the future, I won’t need masks anymore. Almost as if every word I write is a mask, in and-of itself.
Even though most won’t even spend a second reading what I have posted and more even then will discredit me as being some crazy, non-important, person just trying to get a rise out of you guys.
This post, even though remarkably off tangent, goes pretty deep. And then again I can be very shallow, as in case: the beach.
I will end with this: Is The meaning of life:to Try to find meaning in life while your still living it, then reminisce, when your done, when you awaken in eternity, as a dream come true in our souls peaceful slumber, sharing the knowledge that Heaven is free, and love be a famous key, for you and you, and even me.
I would say that even though we never know what someone is going through, and we may not completely know everything we should, everyone is going through something. So it’s powerful to always be kind, because sometimes that’s the one thing that helps another have the desire to continue living, just for one more day. So remember; everyone is going through something and even if we might not know what exactly someone, or everyone might be going through, if we remember to be nice and kind, we can all get through it.
I truly believe now and forevermore, the meaning of life IS to find meaning in life, (without being mean) which helps us all find a helpful human kindness.
OK. Take this random post as is, and you will be no worse for the wear. You survived, your mind is strong, your dream will never die, feel your power. I had some free time on my hands. Thank you for sharing some moments with me. Remember: Covid no-covid you are all irreplaceable, no one can out-do the miracle of you but yourself, enjoy life while you have it, and understand that it’s sad when people pass from this world to go to the next, but in a hope inspiring way wish and pray that they will have another chance to affirm life if they want and possibly experience an even greater development and relationship with life than they ever dreamed of having or living through before.
It will be interesting to read the responses from everyone who by fate decide to share their views on my somewhat outspoken over the top ramblings that I thought just in a special way might make someone rethink everything, and then might make someone else kinda giggle ???? and smile.
Your Crazy but kindly intentioned friend, Nick Elliott
Peace all the way Up.
Peace in and peace out.
GOD WILL always be proud of you and love you. All of you are his best friends.
How do you know they’re not vaxed
Because they don’t do as they’re told.
Maybe they were told if they were good citizens and got the Trump shot they wouldn’t ‘have to’ wear face sweaters.
Considering the fact that Humboldt County just passed the threshold of having over 50% of their Covid deaths being among the vaccinated, I’m thinking you’re talking out yer a**.
No. 50% of the COVID deceased have not been among the vaccinated.
What’s the actual number Kym? I’d be interested to know. For awhile, they were saying when it was a vaxed/unvaxed person. Now the news doesn’t mention it and/or I can’t figure out where to get the info.
You have the best local news site by the way. Thank you.
They are employing a well known fascist tactic. Bullying and insults. The store employees wear a mask all day while at work, yet these people can’t wear one for 10 or 15 minutes. Using these tactics is scary, what’s next, breaking windows of stores that require masks. Kristallnacht “the night of broken glass” “Remember your history or you are doomed to repeat it.”
You mean like BLM and Antifa?
At least BLM or Antifa is protesting, no matter how violently, for some ideal other than the right to spread disease as they choose like these idiots confuse with freedom.
Oh you mean when they were burning shit down and screaming in peoples faces all summer long during a pandemic? What a crock of shit
Drinking that right-wing kool-aid again? The anti antifa folks and the police did more damage than the antifa’s.
That’s their go-to excuse. Old, tired and dusty. By the way, Umbrella man has been identified. Def not Antifa.
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How is that right-wing kool-aid? There is literally millions of hours of video to prove it.
LITERALLY millions of hrs of video? Please prove that, or admit that you used the word literally in a non-literal manner. Thanx in advance.
The word literally now means figuratively. Look it up-it’s true. Another harbinger of the end times, I suppose…
Those are just millions of hours of “unreliable sources”. Haven’t you heard, it was mostly peaceful protests. Kinda like the enviromental scum rioting yesterday in DC were peaceful protests and Jan 6 were armed innsurrectionists.
I’ve actually seen more damage after a Super Bowl win!
So it’s OK to go into somebody else’s house, act all crazy, take what I want then leave? To all the people OK with this please post your address
I think you mean fascists there bud, someone who is anti antifa is just a plain old fascist.
Oh and what happened on January 6th again?
Peaceful Tourists were attacked by out of control Police ?
Federal law enforcement killed an unarmed female protestor. Oh, and someone sat in Nancy’s chair.
And a couple of pipe bombs and 138 injured police officers, including 1 dead.
What was the cause of death of that officer?
He doesn’t know, he watches CNN
So, the Kavanaugh hearings again?
Not sure what pipe bombs have to do with Kavanaugh.
They should dig Ashli Babbit up and shoot her a few more times , just to make sure..
Did the chair get cooties ?
That unarmed protestor, Babbitt, was part of a mob, attacking the Capitol through a broken window. She got shot due to her behavior. the creep in Nancy’s chair was part of a mob that that stormed our Capitol over a Big Lie, attacked police violently, and built a scaffold while looking for Pence and Pelosi. On and on. You didn’t watch the videos? Try it. You’ll love it.
She was asking for it. They all were. Did you see how they were dressed?
People trespassed the People’s House.
So I can break into your house uninvited, make threats, break windows, steal things and you would be OK with it? Please post your address.
So you’re an immigrant?
People trespassing in the People’s House? How can you trespass in your own home?
whoops, here come the invisible buses billy!
How can they be spreading a disease if they don’t have one keep doing what your master tells you that’s what they want
If it’s a day or two before they feel sick, or if they are in denial about their symptoms, and they have a pre scheduled yell at a store to go to, and then go to the store to yell at people, or on their food, and saliva, or snot falls out of their open mouth.
I do not advocate the use of these tactics by any group. But by not speaking out against this event you are condoning it. Which is part of the problem, not speaking out or excusing such actions.
ROME (AP) — Tens of thousands of union members and other Italians gathered in Rome to stand up against rising fascism Saturday, a week after right-wing extremists forced their way into the headquarters of Italy’s most powerful labor confederation while protesting a COVID-19 certification requirement for workplaces.
Speak out by all means. But SJWs need to de-escalate the situation instead of causing more problems.
Meh
Yep, all summer long. I’m old enough to remember all that shit
Antifa to me seems to be mostly bored skateboarders. BLM is an entirely different matter. Seeking justice over police oppression.
Turn of Rachel Maddow. Come towards the light.
Trumpism is a mental disorder.
1 in 5 Americans Suffers From Mental Illness
Starting to seem higher than that.
So say the people who want to treat them for a livelihood and sell them drugs?
Seeking justice over police oppression of black people. The rest of us can go f*** ourselves, despite what figures actually indicate about police violence being a problem for all races.
Black males kill one-another at a rate over a thousand fold that of police.
And BLM as a political organization (not a social movement) is a fundraising tool for the DNC. The DNC is hardly even liberal, they are certainly not going to fix the problem of police abuse, or any sort of race issues.
We are talking about a socia-economic problem that has persisted over the years, that goes well beyond police brutality. And please site the figures that show police brutality by race. And please take into account the unreported ones. I believe you will see a disproportionate amount of African-Americans on the list
Use Google. It’s all available. Search terms are everything. 3000 black vs black murders annually, against a handful of law enforcement engagements gone bad? And that’s a few hundred deaths for all races. In fact way more white perps are gunned down by Leo’s! But it’s the slightly disproportionate rate between the races that is portrayed as only POC suffering at the hands of the police. Meanwhile black people slaughter one another left and right, and the culture of violence within their communities prevents citizens from assisting in investigations. It appears that POC don’t actually care about “black lives,” as they refuse, year after year, to even begin to acknowledge or address the violence perpetrated 24/7 against themselves.
Nothing is that simple except for the thinking of people with think it is that simple
No — like those Trump supporting insurrectionist domestic terrorist dipsh*ts who stormed the Capitol on 1//6.
BLM protests very real police brutality against people of color. \
Antifa is ANTIFASCISM — or are you pro-fascism like Trump trolls?
Face masks stand for respecting your health and the health of others around you. Nest time you have suyrgery I think you should insist non of the health care workers wear surgical masks — that’ll show those libtards how tough you are.
A fantastic comment that should be copied&pasted everywhere. Thanx!
Treating people as if they were evil for not wanting what Democrats were selling lead to Trump having a viable candidacy the first place. Doubling down on that disrespect has pushed many who might have not even voted for him given an acceptable alternative into distrust of the media that was fixated on doing him in at all costs. Thus a large segment of the population now thinks that, since they were treated so badly, the dark, insane world of conspiracy internet information is more reliable.
Congratulations on the same sort of rhetoric and thinking that created this problem for keeping it going. Turning what was a fringe group think into a cause celebre and increasing it’s sway.
“Antifa is ANTIFASCISM”
Yes, because smashing people in the head for voicing the wrong opinion is anti fascism.
Trumpism is a mental disorder.
Antifa is lame. Lame because whoever uses the term is too tired to say the whole word: Antifascism. You use the term assigned to you by Tucker Carlson. “Antifa” is the evolution of those rich white kids from Santa Cruz who’d come up to Oakland to stomp windshields wearing fresh black fits.
They claim to be anti-fascist, their actions indicates that they are anti-liberal. Specifically they are against freedom of speech.
The equal opposite of the stupidity we saw from the capital rioters.
Surgery ? Ever heard of PPE protocols? One slip and your surgeon starts over when donning garb for your operation.
Equating masking as part of maintaining a STERILE FIELD with grabbing the same mask worn to 6 different stops in my day off my dashboard is like most lib remarks, utterly lacking common sense or logic.
Object of masking to prevent and slow down covid spread is NOT STERILITY! Got it? It’s to prevent your Snot and Spit from flying around. So you can stop with the false and distracting “equivalencies” now. It’s dishonest and divisive.
In The USA It’s Freedom and Justice For All. Maybe you’re not OK with that?
Criminal Justice = no profiling and evidence based conviction Not Snitch or undercover cop ” confessions”
Economic justice = living wages for all Farmers and Workers! Fair housing and free Public Education NOT private and religious cult “charters”.
Health Justice = public health Initiatives and Mandates for the Benifit of the least able among us.. including free vaccines and masking, sanitizer etc.
No reason to go off on me.
I understand the weak premise behind the inclusion of wearing cloth barriers but haven’t a whit of patience to argue the idiocy. At this point the crybaby maskaholics are hopelessly devoted.
I was replying to eureka resident who (compared masking in surgery to masking mid pandemic) said “Nest time you have suyrgery I think you should insist non of the health care workers wear surgical masks — that’ll show those libtards… ”
Ok?
If they intended to start an insurrection on the 6th then why didn’t they have guns? The recently released Capitol video shows people just milling around taking video with their phones. Yes, like tourists not terrorists.
Lol
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DXnHIJkZZAs
They didn’t have guns this time. Thank you for small favors. If you call the violent attack by Trump dead-Enders a regular tourist day, then I wanna sell you a bridge. Capitol video shows a violent attack by Trump maniacs. What are you talking about?
Mask mandates for surgeons! Immunizations for kids! Sounds like a slippery slope to a healthy society.
Those don’t exist.
He means like e fox.
To be fair the guy that started the Minneapolis riots was a Hells Angels agent provocateur … https://apnews.com/708163420bbcdbdb8942348461006bbf . Just sayin’.
Your comparison is absurd. People refusing to wear a face diaper and voicing their opinion is compared to 91 people losing their lives, the looting of 7500 businesses, and 30,000 Jewish males sent to concentration camps to a certain death is on equal ground??? Really!!
As absurd as anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers wearing a star of David in protest to compare their “plight” to that of the Jews in Nazi Germany and occupied territories. If they want to protest then that is fine, but not inside a store where an elderly immunocompromised member of someone’s family may be shopping. That is absolutely selfish. Who gives a fuck if you don’t want a vaccine, or to wear a mask, just don’t infringe on anyone else’s rights and safety. And they aren’t defending my freedoms, I can take care of that myself, thank you.
Spot on Marc.
I am saying this is how fascism takes root. A small group becomes a big group. If it’s denounced early it can be stamped out. . To not denounce them and to excuse them worries me, because to me it means your OK with this and if there would have participated. “ Sievers said she felt threatened and betrayed by the shouting crowd. “I’ve helped these people for over 10 years,” she explained. “[And,] I didn’t feel safe…All I felt they wanted was fear and blood.” And what if children were present I can’t imagine how much it would have scared them. Sooooo….. your OK with this?
Definitely not ok with it. However, comparing it to some kind of a growing fascist threat ignores the grievances the protesters were voicing. They are over the overreaching control of government, which reminds me of fascism more than a “flashmob ” of belligerent, yet harmless protesters. Are you aware that fascism has a real definition?
Are you aware that fascism by definition is right wing?
You say it’s the government overreach, I bet you a literal majority of American citizens disagree with you and feel that it is appropriate government reaction to a public health concern.
Fascism is not left or right wing. Pick up a dictionary, there is a real definition. The United States Constitution defines government overreach, doesn’t matter if an overwhelming majority of Americans are brainwashed fat morons, they don’t get to change the definitions.
While it’s true that the left/right designations do, at times, seem rather arbitrary, they in fact have historical grounding in where one locates one’s loyalty in relation to the aristochracy and religious athority (especially in Europe). Traditional far right wing values intersect with fascism in this regard, for example catholic Bishops in Spain backed, and even funded fascist pistoleros in labor struggles before the Sanish civil war. Opostion to the old traditional power is more in line with the left, as in comunism, which can potentially become totalitarian, not fascist.
Make America Germany again?
What’s your point? Are you hung up on Germany?
Sounds like cancel culture and this has been horrible for California everyone from Peter Thiel to Tesla is getting out of this state. Maybe you don’t have to work but businesses are being driven out of state or out of business and its very political.
If only everyone would just comply…
There was a child present. He was wearing his mask under his chin, looking confused and uncertain and trying to fit in with the bullies. Talk about endangering child mental health.
Totally. “teach the children” but good things not this BS. What great role models they were.
About 1.65 million people were registered in Nazi concentration camps at one point.
You might want to check the definition of Fascist there Brandon. I’m pretty sure it’s about authority government control and beating down dissenting views. I could be wrong but you seem to be about 180 degrees off there.
The original meaning of fascism can be traced back to the ancient heraldry fasces symbol (a bundle of rods bound together) signifying the people bound into cohersive social relationships. It’s rather peculiar that the anti-mandate folks choose only these minor inconveniences out a sea of of otherwize fascistic institutionalised dominanc of modern society.
He’s got the definition right. It’s the fascists followers of Trump peeing in the community sand box who are the problems. Individualists with no regard for society as a whole. Fascism is about corporate control of a government. Not protection of the weakest among us.
Nationalism is a key characteristic of fascism. That’s part of why Nazis and Italian Fascistas hated communism so much, because it was left-wing and internationalist. Yes, fascism is considered right-wing. You can have autocratic dictatorial left-wing governments also, but fascism wouldn’t be the right word for them.
So immature.. these wimps should be ashamed of themselves! Wear your mask!!! Is it really that difficult? .. pathetic to protest against something like this. Do what the store manager ask you to do!
I don’t wear a mask anywhere. If they ask…..several times…..I comply….if I really need something.
You are quite the “patriot”.?
I agree
In their minds they are big bad rebels defying the awful oppression that doesn’t exist.
I hope all ENF locations post their images(like some stores do with shoplifters) and ban them from the premises.
The trouble is that a group with no care for the surrounding community will not be put off by the community objecting to their actions.
Nor do I suspect they even shop at ENF – they just showed up there to be jackasses
Lots of people who seek out quality food also seek to avoid extensive mask time. Sadly this has lead to many people using online buying clubs over grocery stores. The positive side is that it has also increased demand for csas for regular produce
Looked like a peaceful protest to me. Even though there was no fires or looting. The aggressive one was the college grad checker
““Some of the people walked out [with items] without paying. We gave video to the police.”
That only matters if they took over $1000 worth of merch. Per Gavin Newsom’s platform. So its a waste of your time to even bother the police, which i bet your for defunding of the police.
So now maybe you’ll understand how that works.
Entering an open business with the intent to steal less than $950 worth of property is shoplifting under California state law (Penal Code 495.5). Shoplifting is usually treated as a misdemeanor — unless you have some major prior convictions — punishable by a half-year in county jail and fines of up to $1,000.
” I don’t see any information about items stolen or security footage in our system, but it may just have not been uploaded yet.”)”
“Let me tell you about science…They’re liars. Fauci is a liar…Gates is a liar…It’s about eugenics…world domination… .” Have heard this nonsense so many times. Its an instant I.Q. test. The world domination claim is just plain stupid. You folks are already being controlled by a bunch of internet quacks and misanthropes.
That’s interesting, Dave. Do you actually understand how tax exempt foundations work?
Our own government is openly engaged in attempting to starve out dissent. Literally. It’s real. It’s happening right here, right now. They think we’re sheep with no fangs. https://www.rt.com/usa/537637-supply-chain-covid-unvaccinated-biden/
US Treasury deputy sec warns unvaxxed Americans that shortages will continue until EVERYONE is jabbed
The deputy secretary at the US Treasury has put Americans on notice that the only way to end the plague of empty shelves around the country is for every resident…
Sound’s like they are dominating the supply chain.
Hehe, you quote an article from Russia Times?!?!
Comrade Surfer…..at least you link to a known propaganda site and not pretending your info is credible. Don’t need to jab everyone . Just stop giving the wealthy tax breaks and start paying more folks a living wage. Covid has allowed workers to get a taste of what its like to get off their Hamster wheel jobs and they aren’t eager to come back and work for peanuts.
Let’s unite around the middle class working Families .
Does it matter whether RT posted this comment by the deputy secretary or some other news source?, if it’s untrue then we can discuss propaganda and the reliability of any news source.
If they are actively engaged in a policy of coercion and intimidation, and you support that, that’s the result of a campaign to pit one segment of the population against the other, and you have sided with those who want to punish people for legitimate hesitancy.
I’m Ashamed at the people who don’t know history of tyranny and genocide, and democide.
Yeah, link to the quote from a reliable source, not a Kremlin backed propaganda rag, or an Alt-right one either.
And Kremlin propaganda bias does not mean mainstream media is biased.
And, lastly, you should be ashamed, of your willful ignorance and gullibility.
When someone claims the mainstream media is not biased that is a indication that they probably have nothing else to contribute to the conversation of any importance. Obviously they don’t have the best judgment or trying to deceive
I’m Ashamed That I’m Even Splashing Around In The Shallow End Of the Intellectual Pool.
Two Words “Controlled Demolition”, and “Regulatory Capture”
Do a little investigation, and you might be surprised that you’ve been championing a “conspiracy reality”.
It’s OK, never too late to be a force for critical thinking,
Ive been sick, recovered, and the entire covidiots can kiss my ass.
There are many real problems in this country, and the lazy and liberal mentally challenged think this vaccine is a naturally occurring virus.
This culture is sick, it’s disgusting to recognize the woke values shoved into our childrens heads, are being used to divide the country
This is simply an exercise Of raw command and power, what’s insane is how many wage earners are going along with it.
Your Kids Will Thank Those Who Stood up, Spoke Out, And pushed Back.
If You Think Being Vaccinated solves anything but a tyrants wishlist , checklist, you should see where your acquiescence to more government in your life is going to take you.
Ignorance is bliss, until your lack of asymmetrical warfare knowledge leaves you unprepared forwhat is coming to your door.
The people steering your snow globe of a life see as a resource for their own agendas.
The world is in revolt because this is a matter of life and death. Pull your head out and join the humans fighting for tomorrow’s children.
We need everyone awake.
Anti vaxxer crap is created, funded and promulgated by the same 12 people. That is why the same wording appears in a hundred thousand small websites at the same time. Do you really think that the echo chambers are any less orchestrated than the other places?
You should be ashamed, all right but not for the reasons you state. “Asymmetrical warfare” is what you’re Worried About (note the unnecessary capitalization. You’re welcome)? You are so far up in the tinfoil mine YOU’RE ALREADY SCREWED. No one has To do a Thing to You. You’re Doing it to YourSelf, all the while patting yourself on the back and thinking you’re better than Everyone Else. I hope you live WAAAAYYY back up in the sticks because the rest of us will be better off. YOU are the pathogen, dude.
So, you want to end all vaccinations that have reduced or wiped out horrible diseases over the course of my lifetime and beyond? I remember polio and saw children in braces in school. Childhood vaccines for smallpox, polio, diphtheria, etc. have allowed people to live and decide that vanes are bad. Totally irrational. Why not spend some computer time researching the diseases that we have been saved from. Look at what happens to the human body if people listen to you. The suffering, the death.
Hahahahaha BUT POLIO!!!!!
And SMALLPOX!!!
The vax aholics always deliver.
“Today, Americans think they have an unlimited variety of entertainment and media options right at their fingertips. But it is all a lie. This illusion of choice was fabricated by the media elites. In the early 90s before the mainstream adoption of the Internet, the media landscape used to be simple and straightforward. Today, 6 media giants control a whopping 90% of what we read, watch, or listen to.”
Let’s be honest. The information dissemination business is controlled by people who see the general public as cattle to be trained to support their agenda…not ours.
If you work for a (wage) living, you are cattle that can be easily replaced.
https://techstartups.com/2020/09/18/6-corporations-control-90-media-america-illusion-choice-objectivity-2020/
CHECK.
Being lead by the nose in the opposite direction does not mean you are not being lead by the nose.
Hey Marc, do you really think that mainstream media is not biased????
Only an ignorant and gullible person would fail to see the obvious bias that is mainstream media.
Jeesh. “Does it matter…” ? For a person who dwells on the evil nature of government controlling the media, that is remarkably oblivious attitude.
He had to, his other news site shut down.
Pravda, the ponderous organ of Communist thought founded by Lenin and his Bolshevik comrades in 1912, one of the enduring icons of the Soviet era and probably history’s most inaccurately named publication (Pravda means truth in Russian), has ceased publication.v
Sheep without fangs or brains. Hahahaha
The VIRUS is dominating the supply chain. The collective effect of covid and fear of covid is slowing down production and delivery of goods and services. No chips from Asia, no cars off the assembly line. There’s a reason why hospitals and morgues around the world have clogged up with patients and bodies.
Why is that so hard to understand?
And they are too stupid to live!
Don’t you know, the New World Order wants to kill off all the doctors, lawyers, judges, governors, Senators, CEOs and Presidents? They knew that poor and working class rural folks would refuse the vaccine, and that is the specific group they wanted to spare.
“The aggressive one was the college grad checker”
It’s weird how the aggressive ones always seem to have a college degree in biology, immunology etc. yet they work at a grocery storey because science.
You misunderstood this sentence I think. “”I was just in line at the cashiers,” one customer of the store, Gillian Levy, explained.”
Though why is the woman (who is merely shouting back at the man shouting) the one who is considered aggressive. She doesn’t approach him. He approaches her.
Don’t confuse a ReTrumplican with facts.
Stop keeping Trump in people’s minds. If you keep calling him the Anti Liberal choice, he will find more followers.
Thanks for posting this article Shining a light on these people and who they really are, does a service to us all.
“Though why is the woman (who is merely shouting back at the man shouting) the one who is considered aggressive”
She’s not really. Was just quoting Rio. The larger point is that the most triggered always claim to have immunology degrees.
It sure is nice that our country still has heroes & patriots left among us. Just as brave as those men who fought & died helping defeat the nazis!
Lol Jesus Christ. These people need to get a life
Great to see that these people know the government is trying for a new world order, they wanna control us and everything we do! I’ll never take the Jim Jones juice jab!
And you’re bravely fighting the NWO from your keyboard? Here’s a newsflash: NO ONE CARES.
Lmao! Sorry 2 hear fauci the fraud and Biden are ur role models!
Sounds good but don’t take up limited ICU bed space when your misinformed decisions lead to you needing to be intubated.
What for? A glorified cold?
ask ANY Covld Survivor if it’s “A Glorified Cold”!!! I’m absolutely sure they will say it’s a Helluva lot more!!!
You really need to step away from the kool aid! Sounds like you and a few other peeps on this thread are drinking too much HATORADE!
ANY covid survivor ? You sure about that ? Most covid infections are mild.
You are right ??but they will ignore that post. They also know masks don’t work. We all know they don’t work. Especially those paper pieces of garbage that end up on shore. But you must wear them for respect ???lol. What a joke this all is. Please someone prove that those paper masks work. Crickets. You can’t. You all been fooled. Feel sorry for ya.
More flat earth bs
Ya like a sore throat another had a fever and one had a cough. But by far the best thing I have heard from survivors of the cov is they hardly even noticed. Two of these people are over 65
They should have burnt churches and police stations then it would have been peaceful
As opposed to spraying virus around a grocery store? Such heros.
Now you’re just being ridiculous.
You seriously think they’re “spraying virus everywhere” ?!?!?
You’re fucking killing me.
If that’s what being infected with covid looks like I’d say this whole thing was blown out of proportion.lol
NO!!! Actually what will be “Killing You will be this damned disease that Idiots like these are helping to spread!!!
Wow you’re quite the drama queen
Yep. That’s how I caught it the second time. Ran right into some nitwit not wearing a mask to prove a point in Winco. Purposefully coughing all over friggin everything and grinning about it. Was she ever proud of herself. Asshole. Glaring asshole.
I didn’t want ANY of her or any other stranger’s goddamn germs covid or not. Probably spraying and smearing M.R. staph and god knows what kind of her personal bacterial rot all over the place as well. Filthier than Divine herself..
Now staph is serious. I can’t argue with that. But I won’t be wearing a mask for that. Even if I had it I wouldn’t. But you feel free to wear one to protect yourself ???omg just stay home. ??
“Free dumb” seems appropriate.
How do you know you caught your 2nd case of covid from this Winco lady and not someone else that day?
She’s highly sensitive (note she referred to the late Divine as ‘herself’) and so she could feel the virus entering her system from the same person she never would have noticed in the parking lot when they were both sans mask.
Thank you, Dr.
The intent was there. Why shouldn’t that intent be believed?
And there it is… whether you agree with them or not, they are “doing it for you.” Not only do they swallow conspiracy theorist propaganda wholesale against all reason, they then demand that you be grateful when they drag you into their fantasy land along with them
An observation that applies to both sides at this point.
Misinformation abounds.
Don’t confuse misinformation with feeling offended by just plain information that is uncomfortable says the side of best known information at the time to the side of fearful of microchip injecting, vaccination shedding, everyone’s-going-to-die-in-5-years conspiracists.
People are free to believe or not believe whatever they want. There is no “threat of social media disinformation,” and the claim of a “threat” is set up as an excuse to censor true content – or to actually prevent people from disagreeing with the government/media.
For example: no one on earth doesn’t know that Anthony Fauci thinks that coronavirus vaccines are “safe and effective.” Everyone knows that he thinks that and everyone knows that the media and the government say that he is the Vicar of Science.
“I was hesitant,” Legault, 61, said. She and her husband decided they wanted to wait to see what happened as more people got the shot — but they were also alarmed by what they saw online.
“You’re hearing a lot of things on media and, you know, Facebook and stuff and you know, you’re seeing videos on YouTube and it’s kind of scary. So we were really unsure,” she said. ”
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/can-covid-unvaccinated-regret-move-vaccine-hesitant-1.6208044
She almost died and has permanent lung damage so that she carries around supplement oxygen now. She wants others to hear her story because she feels it might save some lives. That sort of story is the media saying that anti vaxxerism has consequences and it needs to be made public because covid has been trivialized by those who want to cast doubt on vaccination. Just because some anti vaxxer thinks the government is lying doesn’t exempt them from responsibility for their own lies.
What the government/media is doing is saying that they are able to dictate what is true, and then saying that you’re not allowed to disagree with them. This is really a hardcore extremist position for anyone to take.
That is at the core of any of these discussions about “misinformation.” They flood the discussion with gibberish, like “oh someone on TikTok is spreading a rumor about people getting kidnapped in parking lots” or whatever. But what they are actually saying, at the core of the matter, is that it is against the rules for you to think differently than they tell you to think.
Duh! It’s not “the truth” that is controlled. It is acting on thinking that creates danger for others that’s the problemand what is controlled. Typhoid Mary thought it was nonsense that she could not feel sick yet spread disease. People tried to dissuade her from her beliefs because it would have meant she saw a reason for cooperation. But in the end it was not her beliefs that got her into trouble. She defied the community insistence that she refrain from acting as a cook despite what she believed and it was that, not her belief, that ended up getting her confined for life.
lol
Banjo your an idiot the biz has a right to refuse service,you don’t like it shop somewhere else I hope you get band from there
And apparently they won’t get prosecuted if they keep it under 900$.
Tell me who will win?
These woke women are not going to stop a shoplifter, I imagine there are very few at that store who will risk injury by chasing down a protester who punishes the store.
Life’s a biatch when your liberal policies come around to the reality we are in.
That’s like the thief blaming those he steals from for the fact he steals. These were a group of supposed adults who think that scaring a bunch of grocery store shoppers is significant political speech. They are no better than looters.
Explain the federal exemptions again? Why does FEMA GET a pass?, the executive, the legislative, the judiciary?
The post office?
Fuck Ignorance and Segregation
The executive (including FEMA) are not exempt. The legislative and judiciary branches are co-equal and self-managed, so executive orders can’t apply to them by definition.
Postal workers are also not exempt: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/09/16/fact-check-postal-workers-follow-osha-vaccine-guidance/8295566002/
Because 1) the Constitution has a religious freedom clause, so the government created by it can not just up and ignore it because it wants to, 2) the States have some Constitutional authority to take action when the power is not given by the Constitution to the Feds, 3) in reflection of that, most States that do not have the power granted to them in their own Constitutions allow other governments freedom of action. Layer after layer of power without the need to bow to the Feds unless the Constitution specifically says so. Otherwise it might just as well be the PRC.
Hello! Constitution? Yes indeedy. “Fuck ignorance” of all kinds.
Glass houses?
How much longer do we have to put up with this kind of stupidity? They are all idiots whom only care about themselves.
It’s just for two weeks, to slow the spread.
Lol, nice ?
If everyone had buckled down in the beginning it would’ve been less than a month or so.
The idea is to deny the virus through “life” cycle interruption.
Wouldn’t have widespread variants now.
Basic microbiology folks.
Stop spreading flat earth bullshit.
Sorry to hear you aren’t an essential hero, not even the kind that’s getting fired now for noncompliance.
You know what made people “essential heroes” in the first place? Doing what was needed in the service of others in a time when that entailed some risk that the others were avoiding. Guess what? Doing what is needed now includes getting vaccinated even if it entails a lot less risk. There is no room in the definition of heroic for resting on laurels.
Patting your own back for ignoring basis facts is beyond foolhardy.
Little do you know I have to actually enter people’s homes quite often to work.
As do my employees, who are vaccinated of their own free will…because they grasp basic facts.
Being a tool for fox commentators who mask up and are vaccinated may feel good but it’s just a feeling.
this happened a week ago? you want us to be mad about something that happened a week ago.
Didn’t even hear about it until now.
That’s because it was a humanitarian catastrophe.
Just when it seems impossible for the angry reactionaries to make any less intelligent remarks, they dig to a new low.
Yes how dare they mock the great president Biden.
Another shovelfull in the quest to the bottom.
Selfish disease spreading ignorant and dangerous Trump troll cretins – hopefully they get a healthy dose of the delta variant and there’s no hospital bed available for them.
Should be arrested for trespassing and felony assault
Oh, but don’t you just feel their OPPRESSION?
Sarc/
So you think that all the meanies are Trumpets? Hello? Immaturity comes in all political persuasions.
I’d say @ least 80% are Trumpies — the other 20% are misguided crystal worshipping yoga panted anti-vax idiots.
Ignorant, bigoted clowns wishing death on others is now a woke stance?
It always has been.
For everyone who calls it ridiculous when its pointed out that it pro vacxies that wish death on others. Here is today’s example
tu quoque
Yes. Some pro vaxxers are as bad as anti vaxxers. You know the ones who scare people about getting vaccinated and who subsequently do go into the hospital with a disease that they could have avoided? Get over it.
The only people I see actively hoping for the deaths of others on these pages are the very ardent vaccine supporters. I don’t see anyone that you call an anti vaxxer actively hoping for the deaths of others.
Filters full intensity then. How many statements about everyone who gets vaccinated dying did you miss?
It’s Trump’s vaccine – we wouldn’t have gotten it nearly as quickly if not for his Operation Warpspeed – and he’s been vaccinated himself so I’d expect Trump’s supporters to have followed suit.
And shot.
As if ENF can totally do something about the mask mandate. Fucking dorks! Unfortunately, I know three of the morons there.
Tell the police
This “tell the police” BS is so ridiculous. It comes across as “mommy, somebody did something I didn’t like and they need to get in trouble.” Like second-grade level thinking. This woman with her camera CHOSE to stay there and take video. If she truly was concerned about her safety, she could have walked outside. Our society has been so infantilized by the need for safety at all costs it’s a wonder we aren’t all wearing diapers. There should be community concern for safety, yes, but where is the line? Where is the line people? Will you be happy when there are 0 new cases and 0 new deaths in this country? Because that is never going to happen. We need to start thinking about the bigger picture and focusing less on this petty BS and we certainly don’t need to be calling the police over masks (unless of course, we didn’t learn much in 2nd grade).
Sounds to me like she is a brave woman who stood her ground and wouldn’t be bullied by their tactics I applaud her. Good for her
You could say the same thing for the protesting group, minus the leaving with products without paying (if that did indeed happen). They obviously hold a strong opinion too. I didn’t see any violence in this video. I didn’t see anyone spewing spit in anyone’s face. The reporting of this story is obviously biased as 3/4 of the writing favors one side of a story and then the last quarter (if that) points out that perhaps there is more to the story. Maybe before we go crying to mommy and daddy (in other words, call the police) maybe we should think critically about what is going on. Ask questions. Try to understand. Dialogue. It’s the only way forward. That, or violence. And this was not violence. If anyone calls this violence my guess is those people have lived incredibly sheltered, easy lives, and also probably don’t read much. Opinions, of course!
. “ Sievers said she felt threatened and betrayed by the shouting crowd. “I’ve helped these people for over 10 years,” she explained. “[And,] I didn’t feel safe…All I felt they wanted was fear and blood.” . Sooooo….. your OK with this
I don’t think anyone deserves to “feel safe” in this climate. Our government is the perpetrator of this mass firing of too many essential people. It’s time to put on your 3rd world britches bitxhes!
Am I OK with what? That Sievers did not FEEL safe? We cannot protect everyone’s feelings. We can’t even protect people from violence most of the time, so tell me, how are we supposed to also protect people’s feelings too? In watching the video everyone looked safe to me. And if someone did not feel safe, they could have left the situation. I am sorry Sievers got her feelings hurt by what appears to be people she is acquainted with however, I stand by my statement that this is definitely not worthy of law enforcement involvement. And comes across as an infantilized response to another’s strong opinion. I will not stand for the sheriff’s policing masks. They are understaffed and we’ve got actual threats of violence we need them dealing with.
Why should she have to be the one to leave? Jesus she works there. Giving in to these punks is just what they want. Going in trying to intimidate people, leaving with items they haven’t paid for, yes they should be held accountable. I’m not for violence but would have loved to have seen someone go up to this so called leader clock him and knock his punk ass out.
old Russian proverb: “Don’t bring your own rule book into the monastery”
Why should she be the one to leave? Because she is the one saying that she felt they were out for blood. If I was in a situation where I truly felt a few people were out for blood I would not stay by my cash register in full view, pull out my phone and start recording. Her actions are not matching her words. I don’t think she was really afraid as these people did not seem “out for fear and blood.” They seem like they have strong opinions about what is going on with our society and they are not alone in the opinions they hold. Both sides need to get off their moral high ground and we need to start discussing and listening to our fellow communities members who hold strong differing opinions. Roundtable discussions, discussions IN PERSON with your neighbor who believes differently from you. We are not going to solve the escalating division and county’s problems on Kym’s comment forum, and we are not going to solve our problems by taking videos of what appears to be a non-violent protest and calling a strong opinion violence.
The fact she stood her ground though fearful makes me even prouder of her. old Russian proverb: “Don’t bring your own rule book into the monastery. And if you are OK with someone coming into your house acting all crazy, getting into your face, taking what I want, then leave, please post your address.
You are making a lot of assumptions based on this article. Perhaps there is more to this story, and this article alludes to that being the case. I am definitely not okay with someone coming into my house, acting all crazy, getting into my face, and taking what they want. However, drawing a parallel between my private house and a private business designed to provide services to a community are two completely different things.
You said it private business, they set the rules. Didn’t your mother ever tell you “ my house my rules” Don’t like the rules don’t shop there. Do I need to repeat the Russian proverb to you again? Spin it how ever you want. What they did and how they did it was wrong. You making excuses for what they did makes you complacent and a part of the problem
Yes, that’s your opinion, that my asking questions and having a conversation about nuance and the complexities of our social reality means I am “complacent and a part of the problem.” You see, I feel the same about you. Not that you are complacent, because you are not. You obviously care to discuss, which in my mind means you are not complacent. But obviously, we don’t think alike here. Second, my opinion is that you are part of the problem, as you fail to ask questions or seek further understanding, and just want to repeat the same proverb over and over again even though it’s not advancing the conversation. Seems like we are at the point where we will just have to agree to disagree, but I do appreciate the convo. Enjoy the rainy day. 🙂
Sounds like more Russian misinformation
Knock him out? She would have been on a ventilator in mere days from covid you can’t be serious
PS: I was not advocating violence against anyone person. Violence should be avoided whenever possible
Law enforcement typically intervenes when trespassers refuse to abide by rules in a privately owned business.
Again, a lot of assumptions are being made on this comment thread based on what I assume to be incomplete information. There is ALWAYS more to a story than any one article can represent. For one, what makes them trespassers in this case? Second, law enforcement only typically intervenes when there is violence or refusal to leave the premises. Seems as though neither was the case here.
They were asked to leave and did not. That is trespassing when you are in a private business.
“Helped these people for over ten years”. She didn’t “help” anybody but herself by working at a grocery store.
The people who have been helping people, nurses, doctors etc. are being fired left and right by the Vax nannies, for not complying with the CDC.
The CDC is totally corrupt!
So the doctors and nurses (who BTW are not being fired right and left) were donating their services? Since that seems to be your definition of helping.
Violence isn’t the only red line. Their behavior was childish and stupid. People are quitting the service industry in droves partly because of bullies like these. The cashiers and customers have zero to do with this policy. Why direct your ire at a private business and a bunch of low-wage workers just trying to get through the damned day?
Totally agree with you on all counts. What I’m not agreeing with is the call for police enforcement, the dramatization as if these people are cold-blooded killers, the dramatization of this cashier’s “bravery” in what I see to be a pretty non-threatening incident. As I said, people don’t know what real violence is if we are making this big of a deal out of this “childish stupid behavior” which is all that it is. Why do we feel the need to call the cops on “childish stupid behavior” that’s intended to make a statement, not cause bodily harm, is all I’m saying. Why do we feel the need to turn “childish stupid behavior” that is the result of a strongly held opinion into a viewpoint designed to decimate that individual’s overall character? All I’m pointing out is that we are WAY TOO NARROW-MINDED. Way too quick to judge based on incomplete facts and stories. More in-person dialogue is needed, we need to be asking more questions, we need to be seeking understanding rather than jumping to judgment, we need more empathy on both sides.
The cashier didn’t make the video.
It was a customer.
Or they have absolutely no concept of how microbiology works
No, she was wearing her mask.
[email protected]
That was a stupid meme the first time it was trotted out. It has not gained any wisdom in repetition. Does kym allow email addresses to be published?
Oops. My bad. And I can’t fix it, sorry.
Old people got nothing better to do then stick they’re nose in everyone’s shit and then complain about how bad it smells
Idiots
Emet aka Berry aka Strawberry! His really name is BENJAMIN since he wants to go around unmasked.
dude’s always been a step away from being a plazoid
He is from a very rich family who gives him his money. They pay him to stay away ha ha! He has never worked a day in his life or volunteered or helped anybody with his resources. He pretends to be a DJ, musician, a grower, etc whatever is cool at the time- an absolute poser who came to our town to be a parasite on our scene. So…as much as he aspires to be a plazoid he never can be so genuine or legitimate…
Benjamin aka Strawberry aka Emeht is a rep for California Leaf Magazine. Check out his “work” @emehtleaf and @emehtahava
Think the science lady is wearing an N95? Science says wearing an N95 is better than 2 people wearing cloth masks. Disingenuous virtue signalling if she isn’t. She isn’t. Nobody does.
She is literally afraid of unmasked people who aren’t sick, with a disease she is vaccinated against, with her mask on. What a clown show.
I know this isn’t the forum for facts like this. This is a place for fascist rhetoric and victimhood posturing. Let’s do some more of that, it’s really saving the world!
Dr science is you saying you’re a grammatical vivisectionist — masks work, whether vaccinated or not as just because a majority of us are vaccinated, doesn’t mean we can’t still become infected by these disease vector morons — unmasked idiots are disease spreading vermin.
Unless the mask is a N95 or better it ain’t doing shit. That’s the science.
So despite the obvious fact it reduces truculent, disease carrying spew, the fact that the wearer can’t claim perfect protection is what you think is important? Pettifogging petulance.
Covid particulates come spewing out your face everytime you breathe and you stupid cloth mask isn’t doing shit unless you’re talking to Daffy Duck
“cloth mask isn’t doing shit unless you’re talking to Daffy Duck”
LOL
That is the exact correlation.
Actually that is completely mendacious crap you pulled off the Infowars or some other piece of shit website.
Here are the FACTS:
“Look for a mask made with at least two layers of fabric. It should cover your nose and mouth without large gaps. The mask should have ear loops or ties so you can adjust it. For people who wear glasses, look for a mask with a bendable border at the top so you can mold the mask to fit the bridge of your nose and prevent your glasses from fogging. Professional masks should be reserved for health care workers caring for patients on the front lines.”
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-face-masks-what-you-need-to-know
Check again.
Factually incorrect.
It’s not all or nothing for most mask types.
N95 is near best consumer option.
Gaiter is same or worse as no mask.
All other masks fall in between.
Science is numbers. Cloth masks study says 37% effective. Wear 3 and feel safe with your vaccine. If the unvaccinated vector morons can give it to you, the vaccinated vector morons can give it to you. More likely an unvaccinated vector moron does? How much more likely? Like 250% (95% compared to 37%)?
I know you’re passionate. It’s because you’ve been spoon fed fear driven bs.
Those yahoos in the video are wrong, I’ll agree. I’ll also tell you this much- if you aren’t doing everything you can to ‘stay safe,’ don’t ask me to do something that is less effective than what you can do alone.
The entire thing is a farcical bunch of crap. Not the virus. Not the deaths. The hypocrisy of the ‘leaders’ and the manipulated holding self-righteousness tightly to smash freedom demanding Americans over the head with. The push pull could end in a shattered society.
The state of our nation is grim. The direction we are headed is worse.
I don’t want you to stop wearing your mask. I do want anybody who’s willing to get a shot. I will not be mandated in to doing what you insist. It’s just not going to happen. Those are the rules. What will you do with yourself to make the best of it.
37% is pretty conservative, but also still pretty significant. Risk is cumulative.
“masks work, whether vaccinated or not”
Is that why it says they don’t work for SARS right on the side of the box?
Is that why you can’t pass a simple test showing ANY correlation between masks and the stop of Covid? None? Zero? Nada? Zilch?
COVID Charts Quiz
rollin, we keep showing you evidence and you don’t want to see it.
“The preponderance of evidence indicates that mask wearing reduces transmissibility per contact by reducing transmission of infected respiratory particles in both laboratory and clinical contexts.” This paper, An evidence review of face masks against COVID-19, came out back in January. https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118
Here’s one last updated in July. “A recent study published in Health Affairs, for example, compared the COVID-19 growth rate before and after mask mandates in 15 states and the District of Columbia. It found that mask mandates led to a slowdown in daily COVID-19 growth rate, which became more apparent over time. The first five days after a mandate, the daily growth rate slowed by 0.9 percentage-points compared to the five days prior to the mandate; at three weeks, the daily growth rate had slowed by 2 percentage-points.” https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent
Here’s an article from less than a month ago with multiple studies linked. “A number of laboratory studies have also documented that a mask protects the person who is wearing it, though the level of that protection can vary depending on the type of mask, the material it’s made from, the experimental setup and how particle exposure was measured.” https://www.nytimes.com/article/covid-masks-protection-stats.html
Please explain and rationalize the exemptions, to us like we don’t know the difference between us and them.
?
Exemptions for me, not for thee
https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2021/why-is-congress-exempt-from-the-biden-covid-vaccine-mandate/
Are you advocating for mandating that members of Congress get vaccinated? If so, there certainly will be a few folks on here who would agree with you for the first time ever.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/10/14/the-california-version-of-the-green-new-deal-and-an-october-16-2020-epa-settlement-with-transportation-is-whats-creating-the-container-shipping-backlog-working-ca-ports-24-7-will-not-help-here/
I was sent this from a colleague on the east coast. I think the points are with merit.
I think he’s asking why they get special treatment and if you had any idea why.
Shouldn’t the people who run our government get vaccinated? If they all got covid and died there would be pandemonium, no?
Mega, I think they should all get vaccinated.
However, I don’t think mandates (I’m using this the way that society is currently using the word mandate to mean you lose your job if you don’t or that you have to get tested if you don’t) should be used against people who don’t have to work with others in the course of their job.
I think mandates (the way our society uses the word currently) should be reserved for those who must interact with others.
And I don’t believe that mandates should ever include forcing people physically to get vaccinated.
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Because congress is a co-equal branch of government and the executive (Biden) has no authority over them.
The fact that this source used such a misleading headline would make me question all their other content as well.
“rollin, we keep showing you evidence and you don’t want to see it.”
Not credible sources; see how that works?
If the masks work their should be SOME correlation on a chart, between mask mandates and cases declining. There is none! Unless you cherry pick, which is probably what your links to “studies” have done. If masks work you should breeze through this test. You cannot! Refute that first if your interested in a serious debate.
COVID Charts Quiz
Why did Faucci say, before the pandemic, at the beginning of the pandemic, that masks don’t work?
Why did the surgeon general say that masks don’t work?
Why was the accepted science in March 2020 that masks don’t work, but then by April, with NO new evidence, they do?
Yes, if you don’t think scientific studies posted on science websites provide credible information, then we probably can never agree on facts.
A lack of critical thinking skills is undermining your statments.
Flat earth is only in the mind.
None of those people or institutions they speak for ever made a claim masks did not work.
You are confused.
check the facts people
Don’t trust BigPharma
They do NOT have our best interests at heart
I have no doubt that you did what you always do, ran to Google, posted the first few links that confirm your bias, post it without reading.
This is from your first link:
“Overall, direct evidence of the efficacy of mask use is supportive, but inconclusive. Since there are no RCTs, only one observational trial, and unclear evidence from other respiratory illnesses, we will need to look at a wider body of evidence.”
No time ATM for the others. Same shit I’m sure.
rollin, you cherry picked that one line from a section entitled, “Reviews and RCTs of Mask Use for Other Respiratory Illnesses.” In the ABSTRACT, which is the section of a scientific paper in which they summarize the findings of the study, they clearly state,
From YOUR link:
“Overall, our understanding of the relative merits of different cloth mask designs and materials is still limited.”
The “science” is far from settled. And the National Acadamy of Sciences, who recieves it’s funding most likely from the gov, is not going to recommend anything contrary to the narrative, nor is the CDC, FDA or Kym Kemp.
There’s plenty of studies to the contrary that I won’t waste my time posting because you won’t read them. You are uninterested in serious debate.
The bottom line is that there’s an entire planet out there with masks, no masks and totally disparate results. There is ZERO correlation overall and you can’t get around that. That is why you and eveyone else in the mask cult refuse to take a simple test, that, if you passed (you failed), would vindicate your position.
COVID Charts Quiz
like a horse lead to water, that does not drink
you can lead someone to facts, but can’t make them think
➡️➡️➡️ FACTS !!!
The mask packaging says it’s not protective against SARS, and just about everyone else ( who bear absolutely no legal /financial responsibility whatsoever)tell you that they work.
Everything is turned upside down, inside out, and people carry on with their cancer causing, heart disease causing lifestyles thinking that they can keep kicking that health stimulus plan down the road.
https://moreequalanimals.com/posts/why-more-equal-animals
Then you are choosing the wrong masks.
There is a painfully adolescent nature to an argument that a lack of perfection in some gives a free pass to someone else to be as wrong as they want.
Dr science for the win!
Says the ReTrumplican. So sure Dr.Science is brilliant. Too damn funny ?
720,000 people have died from this virus ! Many from right here in our community. These people protesting against mask and vaccines are making it possible for wmore of us to get sick ,and die! WTF is wrong with you!
Get vaccinated if you don’t want to die
What’s Wrong With YOU?
720k people died because of JUST COVID?
This is the reason why it’s so hard to take the general chicken Littles so seriously.
It’s like saying that people are starving you, and making you homeless because you won’t get off the couch and actually put your time in building your work experience.
https://www.rt.com/usa/537637-supply-chain-covid-unvaccinated-biden/
How oblivious can you be? RT News? It is a registered foreign agent controlled and paid for by the Russian government.
Should we have that discussion about how many people in Washington DC are registered and INFLUENTIAL?
Does it matter when our MAINSTREAM MEDIA is clearly weaponized against us.
Russian and China are laughing at how completely ignorant our culture has become.
When Milley can pick up the phone and call China and say hey , we’ll give you a heads up if something happens, there’s no reason to believe in government propaganda
Covid is a pandemic of the people who think health comes from a lab.
Idiots and Slaves enjoy your crumbling country.
Freedom
I agree. Lots of stupid people.
His other news source Pravda was shut down in 1996
And much of the US media is controlled by Dem leaders so who’s getting fed more propaganda and by whom?
fuck’in communist shit your propagating comrade!
The common thread almost all commenters on this site who fear the COVID vaccines have in common is they aren’t over picky about the websites they trust. (There are a few exceptions though)
The FEMA healthcare workers that are replacing the non-vaccinated nurses and doctors are NOT required to get vaccinated.
So they fire the non-vaccinated for not being vaccinated and then replacing them with non-vaccinated people paid by the Feds. Makes total sense…
Allowing the Government to dictate how we educate our children was the biggest mistake we’ve ever made.
Until we fix this, America will never truly prosper
This is the sort of casual assertion that might be 1% true but 99% untrue that are promulgated by conspiracy websites. It’s always hyperbole at best and an outright lie at worst. But it always avoids looking at its own behavior. It always lacks perspective. To such people, a vaccine that causes a dangerous reaction in one person is a great evil while a disease that kills a thousand more is dismissed. To keep holding onto that idea, believers are forced to announce conspiracies to lie by the government, the media and 99% of medical doctors. They have no sense of perspective and angrily epitomize that saying about tossing the baby out with the bath water. baby
Just because you don’t want a vaccine or pharmaceutical medicine doesn’t mean you have fear.
Of course it does. It means exactly that.
“who fear the covid vaccine”…
Is that how you’ve twisted your view of people hesitant to take the covid vaccine? It’s insulting and ironic, coming from a mandate supporter ready to give up civil liberties because of their fear.
Ya and we “all” aren’t over picky …blah blah.
Pretty lame, bigoted, us and them rhetoric. Sad
Oh yeah. Clearly it’s the principle of the thing that motivates the mass of “you’re-all-going-to-die, everyone’s lying” rhetoric spewed in conspiracy websites. After all it’s only affection for humanity that dismisses 700,000 deaths that causes this…
You didn’t finish high school?
You probably are better off.
The Marxists have infiltrated the education system, rendering a large portion of the well schooled functional zombies when it comes to critical thinking.
How many college graduates could do your job?
A job that requires an eye on the weather, the terrain, the seed, the water, and how to manage /babysit those college educated pencil pushers.
Thus we now see the real, albeit, hidden, anti-working class agenda of these anti-mask Karen mobs. “How dare these unworthy wage slave rest on the couch! How dare they defy the demands of the ruling class that they should work themselves to death!”
Russian flat earth troll
Actually they didn’t all die from covid most very old and unhealthy. It’s been almost 2 years might I add. We had a really bad virus that took them out. It’s good to stay home and avoid people if you fall into that catagory. Trust the science bro.
A twenty percent excess death rate because in one year twenty percent more of the population suddenly got old and unhealthy? As Scrooge said “‘If they would rather die, they’d better do it, and decrease the surplus population‘ .
Biden could quickly fix all of this by saying, “Look, it is really important that you wear a mask and get vaccinated, if you are a Democrat. If you are a Republican, please do not wear a mask or get vaccinated, so you can help me get reelected.”
Amusing they chose Eureka Natural Foods instead of Grocery Outlet or Safeway. Really, think on the decision making process, it made me smile.
It’s caused the most butthurt of any non-story so far this month.
The Sheriffs Office is “actively investigating what?” A difference of opinion?
Trespassing; and intentionally exposing people is assault. If you intentionally give someone AIDS you are criminally libel. The same could be said for these morons as if they could be disease carriers.
Oh covid is the same as aids now?
I can’t take you people seriously
An act of domestic terrorism is in part defined if the act appears to be intended to: (i) intimidate or coerce a civilian population. Guess what they did? Attempted to intimidate or coerce civilians sithnan illegal act. That is why protests never happen in the stupid way this was done. “According to the ACLU, the general rule is that protests cannot take place on private property unless permission has been obtained from the property owner.” https://www.civicsnation.org/2018/04/02/legal-and-illegal-protests-first-amendment/
Oh now it’s domestic terrorism ….
Hahahahahahaha
Tthey are all white supremacists too!
and armed insurrectionist cop killers. looked to me like they were trying to overthrow the grocery store.
Acutally no. The democrates just changed the law in the last year. Intentionally giving someone AIDS is no longer a felony.
Not true.
What you say is a MAJOR manipulation of the how the law was modified
Actually I think California ruled that you couldn’t be prosecuted for knowingly giving HIV…
” If you intentionally give someone AIDS you are criminally libel. “
Actually in Ca they did away with that law. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Let’s go Brandon!
I like tRumps idea that no Republicans should vote in 2022 and 2024. Are you in Rollin ? What a great leader the GOP is following. Can’t make this crap up. So funny ?
You mean Brandon Fellows the Jan 6 rioter who decided to represent himself in court then proceeded to admit to 2 more felony’s. That Brandon? He must of got his law degree from Trump University.
Oh wait, maybe you mean this Brandon (CNN)The man arrested in the assault on a 65-year-old Asian woman in New York City was out on parole for killing his mother, police told CNN.
Brandon Elliot was arrested early Wednesday. Yes, Lets Go Brandon. You need to find a new hero.
This really seems to hurt your feelings on a deep, personal level. It’s as if your name was Brandon.
That depends on whether it’s true or not.
488PC Shoplifting/Petty Theft, 602PC Trespassing, 415PC Disturbance of Peace, 647HPC Loitering w/intent, applicable CA H&S code section(s), applicable local/municipal code sections, for ‘starters.’
So I can just go into your house act all crazy, take what ever I want then leave? Please post your address,
I hope everyone realizes that this totalitarian mask policy means that ENF is not an equal opportunity employer. Failing to allow medical exemptions is a step to far.
It is funny that so many think that they actually have a point when they have none. How do you know they do not have religious exemptions? Do you even know what a religious exemption means? Or how it is implemented? It’s not just saying “God gave me an immune system” and thinking it should be enough.
Medical exemptions are provided by doctors….not by psychologically imagining you’re exempt.
Good for them!
Children, of the (insert) Corn
Tantrum at the wrong place, wrong time wrong people affected. Don’t kick the dog.
“Criteria announced for Bay Area counties to lift indoor mask mandates.
SAN FRANCISCO (KRON) — San Francisco officials on Thursday shared a path towards lifting the indoor mask mandate as soon as next week.”
https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/indoor-mask-mandate-can-be-lifted-by-oct-15-if-covid-stays-down-san-francisco/
I’m sure the BOS would be happy to follow suit, if as the article indicates, conpvid cases stay down. One day without a public announcement of no infections doesn’t cut it.
The entitled mass of ignorance.
Since he no longer wants to hide behind a mask everyone should know that Emets’ (aka Berry, aka Strawyberry) real name is Benjamin.
Awesome!! Thanks for telling everyone!! You are really helping everything.
Way to go Benjamin. When’s the next protest? can we leave out the eugenics, NWO shit though?
Do we know eachother? I’d be happy to lyk about up coming events
I didn’t start the chant or expect a chant to start
This is some nwo order ish
and Gates whole family comes from Eugenics
available information
People who hate their lives, are just haters, there are also plenty of Lititle sociopaths masking as virtue signaling boot lickers, who want to see more children aborted and thrive on being dominated by their big daddy technocrats
Great! Where’s he live?
I live in Arcata
How bout you ?
wanna say hi ?
or are you just threatening my whereabouts and that sort of info ???
Of course you do.
I was being sarcastic.
We’ve already said hi.
Worry more about the douche who doxxed you.
Hey Kym
remember when I texted you for a valid story comment ? But then you said you would only print part of my interview… hmmm ?? convenient censorship ???
See here for response. https://kymkemp.com/2021/10/16/flash-unmasking-mob-disrupts-grocery-store/#comment-1437776
Ridiculous demand in the first place.
and your name ? Freeman Lawless ? New thread …who dis ?
Benjamin aka Strawberry aka Emeht is a rep for California Leaf Magazine. Check out his “work” @emehtleaf and @emehtahava
You seem to know me
Who are you ?
or are you also gonna hide behind a keyboard ??
I’m not hiding I’m not cool enough for you to engage with in public as I first stated. I should have left Brian out of it and just said take that hat off. No doubt Jerry would have not gotten the jab he preferred to smoke his heroin and Garcias Hand Picked? Mountain Girl and daughters needed to do something after Dark Deb stole their family money. Who do I work for? You’ve been a nuisance there too so keep pretending and keep targeting low hanging fruit. How about driving your Prius to Sacramento and address the issue with people who make the mandates then go further east and take it up in Washington? You wanna talk about the kool aid not being electric anymore? You know you’ve never swam in the deep end end. No one is hiding behind the keyboard on this forum. We are all just stating our thoughts on your “protest” and yeah your lurky presence came up. The owners of enf aren’t even there on Sun. Go when they are if you had the need to out their private business policy. It’s really been amusing to see how you are reacting to all of this. You’ve made more of a fool of yourself around here now with your current grocery store games.
Wow
Okay
and you are ? and whom do you work for ?
Morons.
Face Masks are the new imperial flag.
I’ll go anti-flag thank you.
No gods, no masters??
“No man is free who cannot control himself.” ― Pythagoras
“Educate your children to self-control, to the habit of holding passion and prejudice and evil tendencies subject to an upright and reasoning will, and you have done much to abolish misery from their future and crimes from society.” -Benjamin Franklin
“Don’t be stupid.” – Nooo
How about people who are too stupid to live? At least there are good pictures for the lawsuits.
So wait, right away you bring in BLM, scary antifa to justify what these people did, but BLM didn’t try to overthrow our government and beat LEO’ s with flags they so love, maybe law enforcement should do what they do to BLM and laugh about. Maybe then you’ll understand why BLM protests being killed because of the color of your skin!!!!
Think about that when you think of bringing in other groups to justify you stupid protest!
“but BLM didn’t try to overthrow our government and beat LEO’ s with flags they so love”
Wait somebody tried to overthrow the gov and beat LEO’s w flags? When did that happen? Turn off Joge Ramos!
January 6th Rollin, but of course the current GOP would like everyone to forget that.
Trumpism is a mental disorder.
You must be really triggered responding to every one of my comments. I love it! Makes my day, TY. Best part is I’m not even a Trump voter, LOL. Derrrrp!
Let’s go Brandon!
Happy to make your day.
Derrrp!!
Anti Trumpism is a mental disorder too. It is not all about Trump in any case no matter what.
But…being anti-authoritarian, anti-fascist, anti-bigot, anti-con man, anti-scam artist, anti-bully, anti-useful-idiot-in-charge, etc in support of a “civil” society rather than a bully pulpit vying for the love of anti-science emotional reactionaries directly supports mental, emotional, & intellectual fitness.
Ahhh… The bitterly ignorant pitter-patter and phleghm splatter of impromptu Braunhemden, self-actuating, useful-idiots of the AT&T corporatist-nazi fascist mindphuq streams…
Rollerball? anyone?
I like these guys! Lunch at the AA bar and grill is on me! NO SILLY MASKS!
No doubt. I’ll buy a round.
AA sounds like a good place to avoid. Thanks for the tip.
Good! Stay home and wear you’re mask! You weren’t invited baby biden!
I don’t wear a mask at home.
Just when I go into a business that requires them. If the employees have to wear them for 8-10 hours a day, I can handle having one on for 15-30 minutes.
I agree,as I do too! We are regressing as a whole! Country is going on a downward spiral with the hate,politics,COVID etc…. Just a shame with social media and tainted journalism
Cool I’ll give you another tip you can’t eat with a mask on either. So probably just stay home and trust the science.
Thanks for the great tip. Yeah I’ve been to plenty of restaurants in the past year to know I can’t eat with a mask on.
do they serve a good tequila drink lol ?? ??
Some of our friends here at RHBB may have been in the flash mob.
Is RHBB anti-mask? Do they suport the harasment of working people?
They may be on here but they’re not my friends
I wore no mask yesterday! But I did not run around a store with my mouth open! Grow up. If you can’t wear a mask in a store you are weak. Or unbearably pretty.
Agreed. I had a great time at a party yesterday where almost everybody was unmasked. Outdoors and lots of distance. You know what? When I was near older, masked people I put my friggin mask on! So did anybody. It’s called respect. Like when you go in a store. R-E-S-P-E-C-T
I just had to repost this with some editing and commentary of my own. Please tell me in advance if an event like this will be happening in the future so I can record it while holding my phone the right way! https://youtu.be/5QRqKlG7YOw
Congratulations, you have given these people the attention they crave. They are now internet famous locally and will probably be encouraged to continue their activities at other locations.
Strawberry, your an old man. Drop the mic dude
Humanity is being pushed into a direction that is worse than simply being dead. This is the hill to die on, because it is guaranteed to become 100x worse if they succeed with this push.
Do you want to live in a world where you need to present your papers for every day life?
Do you want to live in a world where you need to get permission from your government to travel?
Do you want to live in a world where you’re forced to take experimental medical products every year in the name of “safety” and “science”?
Do you want to live in a world where science has been redefined to “just trust the science” and questioning “the science” is severely punished?
We’re at a turning point and you need to get ready for rough times ahead.
Way, way, way over the top melodrama. The mask mandates in the Spanish Flu epidemic did not lead to any, not a single one, of the dire consequences you say this does. Stop reading stupid websites that keep overheating your imagination.
Have you researched Frederick Gates and his association with what led to that SPANISH FLU?
History is written by the winners, thanks
History is written by the winners much of the time. But there’s hardly any sense to letting the losers write it, is there?
No, I haven’t researched. Without a reason, I won’t. Anti vaxxers already drain too much of everyone’s life to be sent off on researching their red herrings. If you think there is some point to be made, make it. Otherwise, who cares.
Word! Preach Surfer!
Yes, I’m sure the cashiers at the local grocery store are the perfect audience for redressing the grievances of the populace.
I get it, but 500 comments deep, it’s all about that traffic, no such thing as bad press.
Just wasted imagination
Exactly…you are leaking blinker fluid everywhere dude.
The constitution is to defend liberty and the common good!
End the anti-science cranial rectosis pandemic
Pull your mask off and scream in me face? An aging tuberculosis and severe PTSD survivor? You do not have the right to threaten me with your spittle possibly carrying a virus that has murdered over 700,000 Americans. Shame on you who would do such a thing. But not everyone has grace. [edit]
They should have all had their asses thrown out. They did not deserve to be able to shop there. I am so sick of these people being so selfish and blaming people in the community for their dislikes with the masks. Stay the hell home and don’t leave your damn house if you are going to go out and be a rebel and disrespect other people. Idiots.
Yaaaawn. If the gov told you that the mask mandate was over tomorrow, suddenly you’d believe it was magically safe to not wear a mask. Faucci is the leader of the vaccine cult.
Spot on! All these fauci followers are just brain dead!
It’s what they beleived when Fauci told them they didn’t need to wear masks because he thought people were too irresponsible to know the truth. He was trying to save the masks for the health care heroes he just got fired yesterday.
And the Titanic sank because it was called unsinkable. It was a lie and therefore caused it to sink- that is the rationale for anti maskers. Hello! Reality is complicated. It changes. Government, media and science adapt and change too. That is not lying. It is not an evil. And calling it a lie does not men what you’re saying is not a lie too.
This is your iceberg. Keep right on tooting your horn.
Every single one of those MF’s is a selfish, self absorbed idiot. They obviously are unable and unwilling to EVEN consider the lives and health of anyone ELSE in their community. Complete disregard for the employees who absolutely did not create any laws or mandates, who absolutely won’t be the ones who change it, and who ABSOLUTELY do not deserve NOR are paid enough to be subjected to this baby man tantrum. Boo hoo these people don’t LIKE something so therefor they believe they’re somehow the exception or exemption and this tantrum makes them???
Consider the lives? Lmao do you ever go outside? People should be inside sheltering in place its a pandemic didn’t you know?
Mouth breathers unite!!! I petition that the next flash mob be held inside the county courthouse or inside the dmv! up the ante mouth breathers!!!!
Anti maskers and anti vaxxers are the scum of the earth.
I know some fine folks who fit those categories. People can be wrong about one aspect of life and right about many others.
So calling people scum of the earth is fine but my mildly sarcastic comment to Willowcreeker is not? Got it…..I think.
Once again for those who haven’t been listening for at least the six years I know that you’ve been commenting…You can insult groups of people. Think of “liberalism is a mental disorder” and “Anti maskers and anti vaxxers are the scum of the earth.” BUT you cannot single out a commenter to insult. However, I do not show that you had a comment to Willowcreeker deleted.
Pretty sure a ” your an idiot ” flew under the radar up above /\ …but lots of insults fly around here, while conversation is throttled and slanted by moderating some voices for months.
“You can insult groups of people. “
Maskholes are groups of people, no?
So are pigs/cops and I don’t allow that insult either…We went through this before, rollin. I’m not doing it again.
“I’m not doing it again.”
No need to. Just pointing out the hypocrisy.
Calling maskers maskholes=not ok
Calling anti maskers scum of the eath=perfectly fine
Call liberalism a mental disorder=ok saying anti maskers are harming people=not okay. What was that about hypocrisy?
Look, you suck me into these stupid arguments when I should be writing articles. If you can’t understand a specific slur that is directed at one class of people is not allowed whereas a general slur that can be directed scattershot at everyone is not prohibited, then I’m not responsible for your lack of understanding. I’m done responding to this.
Oh, whatever gods may be, please help me remember that engaging in repeated arguments with rollin is probably related to something flawed in my brain and in no way is a good use of my time.
Really? You know people who would go into a grocery store and deliberately take off their masks so as to frighten people into paying attention to them? And you consider them good people? Or do you know some people who think masks are useless but try to get along anyway?
Nooo, are you misreading the situation? The statement I replied to was “Anti maskers and anti vaxxers are the scum of the earth.” I said I know some folks who anti maskers and anti vaxxers and I think they are fine folks.
However, do I think it possible that some of those folks who went into ENF protesting could rescue a puppy or pull a child from a fire? Yes, absolutely I do. People are not the sum total of one of their beliefs or actions.
Do I think it was foolish (what in the heck are they yelling at store clerks who have no control over the laws that are handed down) and rude (if someone thinks that spiders are terrifying, even if you know the spider you are holding is harmless, you don’t stick it in their face)? Yes.
Have I done foolish and rude things in my life? Yep. Am I therefore always foolish and rude. No, I am not.
I think Nooo is try to pull a “very fine people” hoax on you Kym!
The vaccine cult with their obedience diapers are the scum of the earth
People in actual fascist countries must be aghast with disbelief. Go back to your video games, kids. We’ll let you know when there is an actual issue to protest.
Every one should be charged with attempted grandmacide.
I will not comply.
It’s okay bud!
Your circus has an insurance policy; The vaccinated.
So the vaccinations work? Great. There should no issue then with people not masking.
If masking helps also, especially with areas of larger larger Covid denialism, than what is the big deal with wearing one while you get your Hershey’s bars?
Do you like the idea of a society, or are you pretty much over that too?
Oh i see, you’re trying to save the non believers from covid . Gotcha
Hershey’s? Yuck.
Yes, society is fucked. E.g.:
“Riders watched as a woman was raped Wednesday night on a train near Philadelphia, but they did not intervene or call police — some, authorities said, may have even taken pictures and videos while it happened.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/10/16/woman-assaulted-on-septa-train/
Open carry to end the violence, or at least even the odds
Yup.
Heinlein was a competent writer of fiction with a lot of foolish hangups. One being the glorification of violence. He artifically grafted a sense of ethics on some of the violent characters and called them good. In the real world, violence leads to more violence until society collapses in exhaustion. It does not make people good. His solution for ugliness of acts of violence was to have characters who gave as good as they got in ever increasing doses. The heros survived, the weak died. If you want the “politeness” of Heinlein, look at criminal gangs. The “manners” so admired are nothing but being submissive of the more powerful and making the less power bow to you in turn. And what gang has ever made a decent society? They make brutal societies.
Meanwhile you tweet gun/anarchy symbolism and actively work to undermine public health.
Gee, you and the guy in the linked story are soooooo different.
?♂️
Did you just compare me to a rapist?
Are you fucking insane?
Mentally, yes.
You’re a fundamentalist with little regard for others well being as long as you get what you want.
Fundamentalist?
What?
Are you fucking insane?
“Mentally, yes.”
Thanks for the honesty.
Gee, do you need a lesson on chronology too?
Did you just compare me to a rapist?
-(Ullr, question #1)
Mentally, yes.
You’re a fundamentalist with little regard for others well being as long as you get what you want.
(Brian, answer #1)
You know I don’t care what you call me anyway.
You two…stop talking to each other. You don’t bring out the best in each other.
Two guys with a charred forest in between them.
#bunkerlife
The deer loved the charred woods.
It’s not 0 or 100, on/off, black/white.
That is the way of vaccination…works on a gradient of risk reduction….not absolutes.
Compare the covid mRNA shot with the efficacy of any other vaccine.
How many people do you know who got tetnus after having a tetnus shot? Measles? Polio? Smallpox?
The covid vaccine seems to have the same efficacy of the flu shot with a much higher chance of complications.
Got anything but supposition regarding complication rates from mRNA vaccines? Outside of course assuming any mention on VAERS means a vaccine related complication? Or believing anti vaxxer doomsday scenarios that haven’t happened?
The covid vaccines are spectacularly effective at first but the protection wanes. That is sad. But still infinitely better at saving lives and health over doing nothing. Which seems to be what anti vaxxers’ alternative- if you don’t die, you may have better immunity than vaccines give. Well duh. It that big hurdle of not dying or getting so sick you’re scarred for life that they flick off as unimportant.
You do know VAERS is there exactly for that and any assertion of widespread fraud and misreporting is without merit.
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking-health/dont-fall-vaers-scare-tactic
Very clear explanation.
Was that Strawberry leading the protest? Ha. So stupid and disrespectful to others. Thank u Gillian for recording this, and standing up for sane people. I might not have been so nice if I had those nonmasker bros getting in my face.
Who the heck is this strawberry person and why do a lot of you know him?
Because he is a huge douche who makes himself known in Arcata area. Maybe now that we out him as the poser idiot child of wealthy parents who literally send him $$$ to feed, clothe and shelter him he will move to a ‘cooler and conscious” place like Ashland or Grants Pass ha ha!
But you wouldn’t want to catch covid no would you bro. Better be very afraid.
Are you really saying that weaponizing disease is appropriate?
that guy speaking the loudest about fascism and eugenics is a loser who lives in his Prius most of the time. just sayin…
Strawberry got more balls the most you sell outs. Sorry emf employees I know you personally but guess what I’ve delt with way worse. You should stand in solidarity. Vaxers your iq suck when and where I’ll bury your weak arguments any day. Oh the vaccine decreases your symptoms by ten times lmao how you calculate that? Is that fat old healthy type o blood already infected nose breather mouth breather i could go on and on. None of this be fact in court of law.
You choose your level of stress in life kids house career? You all are freaking comfort safety secerutiy worshipers. Grow a pair!!!
Ripe for a takedown of their feelings
is that you emmett?
Nope
I’m Strawberry Fields Forever
?
Calling names makes a great debate! You could at least say trust the science.
In your own words- grow a pair.
Hey to evvvvvveryone on this thread
I love you all
this is said so called “strawberry”
you hide behind masks, and screen names, and know oh so much about me and the group of people I stand with, not lead, but stand with
continue to misconstrue the facts, and one sided arguments, proving that in fact you don’t stand for equality and freedom of speech and freedom of choice, and censor any opposition to the current mainstream media’s agenda
or look further into why an emergency untested shot is being pushed upon millions, while silencing your opinions through mass masking of the population
Fauci fabricated the aids scandal. Gates family is based in eugenics.
these are evil liars who have duped humanity once again
I fight for all of you
the group I stand with fights for you all
naïve as you may be
i still love you all
if you know me in real life
dont hide behind a screen name
come say whatever you’d like to my face and have a conversation like a real human
America should be a place of tolerance
oh, wait only if you take this fkn shot… mmmm ?
I have no tolerance for idiots. Known you for a long time, but what a stupid ideal to lay your claim on. It’s simple- you get the shot to be a part of society and not kill old people. If you don’t, your a selfish asshole. Period.
That’s a ridiculous and insane standard. How do you deal with the people who’s dr may recommend they don’t get the shots for health reasons? Are they all imaginary or liars? Do they all have to justify their primary care physicians choice to you?
Red herring, guy in Arcata. Not going to take that bait. The vaccine is safe, science is real. These people are equal intelligence to the jan 6th crowd.
It’s safe until it isn’t, then what?
Talk about it then.
Yeah the vaccine works great. You.must feel very safe and smart lmao.
Just safer. Only a fool rejects safer because it’s not perfectly safe.
Fair enough and it’s a legitimate argument. I thankyou for bringing this up. Im sorry I just don’t trust the data and your claim. To the extent of how much is also what I’m curious about on transmission and expression of symptoms. I’ve heard 10 times less symptoms. I still need to read more about it. Also I actually am thankful others have been brave to get the vaccine. I will continue to question my decisions. I haven’t completely signed off because that would not be fair if my argument is to make the best logical decision. Simple logic also isn’t necessarily the best decision. It’s a best guess on the information you have. I’m still trying to learn. What I’ve learned is every person varies vastly. What might help some might not apply to others. Lots 9f factors but all in all the science to me isn’t very convincing. I also feel any science that does speak for natural immunity is hush hushed.
Nonsense. There are plenty of studies on naturally acquired immunity. All of them mention though mention the risk of death and injury needed to acquire it.
I hate the term “natural immunity” as its used by anti vaxxers. Both vaccines and viruses create immunity using the same biology. There is no magically different way of triggering immunity. It’s all one. Just as older people have more difficulty mounting a defense against covid, they are more prone to reinfection even if they survived the illness in the first place. It’s the nature of their immune systems.
The difference in immunity is that, while an mRNA vaccine does not necessarily create as broad an immunity that surviving the illness does,it also is leagues ahead safer than getting sick. For the exact same reason- the virus has a dozen diffent ways to kill you. mRNA vaccines only target the most likely one. So yes, if repeated injections are needed by the elderly, then go for it. The alternative is not what the anti vaxxers say.
#unsafe
I agree w you that Strawberry is a tool. But…this selfish and disgraceful action at ENF was not over vaccination. I myself have concerns about mandatory vaccination! This was about simply masking. Which is the least thing we can all do for each other- even if we don’t believe it helps!! See- you don’t have to agree to just behave with consideration for others. And that is the simple lesson these morons failed with their idiot parade. They are the most selfish and arrogant group of idiots…I’d like to see pictures of them all so I know who sucks and can avoid them in all circles. They should all be banned from both ENFs, WildBerries and both Co-ops if those businesses really care about their patrons’ health…
That’s happening, to my knowledge.
According to the article, the lead person was already banned. It is part and parcel of not caring about other people in general to not care about that either.
Amazing how little cohesion our society seems to have, even in a relative mono-culture like imperial Von Humboldt.
Dissent is part of the democratic charade for sure, but the dissent I’m observing mostly speaks to our weak culture and our lack of social integrity.
We really do need to break up the union so each faction can have nations again, the division over masking is fucking pathetic.
America is the biggest has-been on the world stage, and we all are the proof!
Hard to disagree canyon oak but this is still my favorite place to live. There are dummies everywhere, but I do think we cultivate a certain kind here in this country. It has something to do with our independence, our selfishness, desire to be heard and all mixed together with really bad information sources. It was definitely better when we all agreed on the basic facts. Used to be old Cronkite on the 7 o’clock news now get our news from whatever idiot wants to put news on Facebook. That’s not helping.
[edit] says he “loves everyone” which is obviously a twisted lie he has bought from himself.
I’m honest, I don’t love him, don’t respect him, and don’t give a shit about him.
But I’m still protecting him and his by being vaccinated for myself.
For the moment, he’s just a lucky [edit].
Clown and fool aren’t insults under Kym’s rules?
Public figure.
But look, you got Kym to buffer the baby.
He’s a commenter now. You can tell him how wrong he is. You can’t insult him.
Well, Chief Watson is a commentor too.
You ready to hold that new line?
Let’s go back and make sure this isn’t arbitrary.
Brian, really? You are going to make me take time from writing to engage me in a rules conversation in hopes of getting me to allow you to call someone a clown. Is this worth either of our time?
No, not worth any time! I actually tried to edit/delete this comment, hence the other similar comment.
Sorry
Well, Chief Watson is a commentor too.
I’ve been a public figure and you let plenty of insults about me go because of (re hands).
Watson is a public figure who will repeatedly appear in stories and in comments probably for years possibly for decades. Strawberry guy is known to only a few and likely his momentary position in the spotlight will fade from memory in a week or so.
What does “because of (re hands)” mean?
You allowed insults against my hands and hygiene simply because I posted a photo of them..
Nevermind, I don’t want to corner you.
I like your whimsical editing.
“Whimsical editing”… A delightful phrase with a boat load of levels of understanding to it.
You published his actions under your crime section. Can we at least point that out?
Trespassing is a crime. The rules allow anyone to point out that someone has performed wrong actions. You can’t however insult them as a person. Calling someone a clown…no. Telling them that yelling at clerks who have no power over a mask rule is rude and foolish? Have at it.
Wait I need a shot to protect old people. But it doesn’t.
It does. Just not forever.
We know eachother ?
Got my number?
Gimme a call and say whatever it is you’d like to
or continue to hide behind your keyboard and talk that trash
???????
america has never been a place of tolerance. when else have you been fighting for the freedom of others?
“if you know me in real life
don’t hide behind a screen name” So Strawberry Fields Forever is your real name? Isn’t that a copyrighted name?
Post under your real name if you so strongly believe in what you are saying. Let everybody know your real name and how proud you are for what you did.
What you did here isn’t even about the vaccine. All you have to do is wear a mask of your choosing for 15 minutes while you are inside a business that was created by another citizen. This is a private business. They can set any standards of conduct they want inside their store. You do not have the “freedom’ to trample all over their right to protect their employees and create a safe environment as they see fit. The employees working there said they were scared of you and your friends. What you did was abusive. You’re selfish and shortsighted. You don’t stand up for me or anyone I know.
Yeah we care
But not enough to avoid threatening them for their own good, huh?
Yes we know all you have to do is wear a mask to shop. They are not shopping. Is it me or do vaxers fail to see basic logic? I seriously don’t get half these arguments. The lady says trust the science. That is not giving me any information. We are way passed trust the science lady with a degree.
Protests are cool, but please leave the poor grocery clerks our of it. Protest the BOS or the health officer who ordered the mandate, or the courthouse or whatever. But please just respect the private businesses and the people just doing their jobs.
Actually that’s really good advice.
People just doing their jobs , following orders, ……hmm
Where have I herd that before
hmmmm ??? can we say Nazi’s
yeah but they can’t see themselves as the oppressors
Ohhhhh wellll
Do private business owners not have the right to make and enforce rules on their property? Plenty of businesses have decided to ignore health orders and not enforce it. The county health department looks the other way and doesn’t care to enforce it either. But if this business decides they want to uphold the rule, then don’t they have the right?
I’m sorry I wasn’t there. I hope it’s just the beginning. The only people drinking kool-aide are wearing masks and getting jabbed!!!
As opposed to those living in a YouTube world?