[UPDATE 8:28 p.m.] Refuse to Be Silenced: Students to Walk Out Wearing White at Local High Schools After Girls Allegedly Sexually Assaulted
Determined to change this, students plan a walkout wearing white Monday morning at Fortuna and Eureka high schools and reportedly also at McKinleyville High.
One 15-year-old Fortuna High School student, an alleged victim, Ivy Carter, and her mother, Catrina Paul, spoke with us by phone. Ivy, who at the time was a member of the cheer team, described going to a party at Centerville Beach around 10:30 p.m. on August 7.
“[My friend] was sober driving,” Ivy told us. “I said I would stay sober with her. There were so many kids there.” Many of the youth there were intoxicated, she said, including, the football player she accuses of sexually assaulting her. “[He] said he was 12 shots in,” Ivy told us.
Ivy explained that because she was sober, she noticed the football player touching other girls inappropriately. “I was trying to tell [him] that he shouldn’t because [the girl] was too drunk,” Ivy told us.
As she and her friend were trying to persuade him not to touch the other girls, he draped an arm over Ivy’s shoulder. She says that at exactly 12:28 a.m., she knows because he had asked the time and she pulled her phone out of her right pocket, he slid his hand down her pants, pulled aside her underwear, and fondled her vagina.
Ivy said it all happened so fast she didn’t have much time to react. She said she tried to signal her friend with a pinch that something was wrong, when another boy pushed the football player onto the ground. According to Ivy, a third girl had told the boy who pushed the football player, that the football player was touching Ivy against her will.
“I just started sobbing,” Ivy said. “[The football player] tried to come after me and saying that he didn’t do it.” She said he tried to deflect the blame onto her. “I was just crying,” she told us.
She left the party in tears.
The next day she says the football player contacted her via Instagram saying that he “messed up so bad on Saturday.”
Ivy says she didn’t talk about what happened much but some friends knew. One friend even went to Fortuna High School staff and reported the incident but didn’t reveal Ivy’s name. The friend said she was told “no victim no case.”
In addition, Ivy says she was told that the football player went to the school’s counselor with his version of events. “He went to his counselor which is also my counselor,” she explained.
Eventually, Ivy’s mother, Catrina Paul, says she talked to the football player’s mom. She said assurances were made that the boy would attend a ten week course on alcohol and inappropriate behavior.
But, Ivy and her mother said they haven’t seen any sign he’s attending special classes. “He’s still on the football team and he’s still driving around,” Catrina told us. “I wanted them to take care of it–parent to parent…The only reason I even agreed to this was because I believe in forgiveness. I am a woman of God. But there has to be rehabilitation.”
Ivy began hearing rumors that not only had the football player sexually assaulted girls at the party but that he had previously been involved in dubious situations with other young girls.
Catrina, who told us that she herself had been raped in high school, said she asked Ivy how she wanted to handle the situation. “This is your life,” she said. “This is your healing…What do you want to do?”
Ivy said she felt that though many friends had been supportive, other students as well as friends and family of the football player had been dismissive and even accused her of lying.
“I got a lot of support from my friends because they heard I wasn’t the first person,” she told us. “But it has been half ass of [the school and the football player’s parents] showing support.”
On Thursday, September 23, she reported the incident to the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Department.
Also on Thursday, a friend of Ivy’s posted a quote on social media that she claimed came from a message sent by the football player. The friend then added her own take on the situation which galvanized fellow students into planning a walkout Monday morning.
According to the message, the football player had messaged her saying, “I need you to know how horrible I feel. I’m not a bad guy and don’t even remember doing it I was incredibly drunk… .”
The friend then added, “[S]poken from one of Fortuna’s good old football players. I would love to say that all the young girls at fortuna high need to watch out because the school does nothing. They sweep it under the rug so they don’t have to get rid of one of their good boys.”
From there, the walkout spread, a group of cheerleaders from Eureka High began planning a walkout as they, too, said they knew of a girl in Eureka who had been assaulted by a fellow student but hadn’t been supported by her school (This school was not Eureka High School.)
Leah Hanrahan-Gee, whose daughter is one of the Eureka cheer group, told us that there had been “backlashes and threats to both these young ladies.” She said the girls are being told to keep the assaults quiet so “it won’t ruin [the boys’] reputation…The football players are basically getting away with it [because] it didn’t happen at school, they are basically doing nothing so he can play football…These girls are being silenced because it’s more important for these boys to play sports.”
She explained, “Fortuna is staging a walkout on Monday…We are doing it at the same time in solidarity.” McKinleyville High School students have reportedly agreed to join the walk out though we haven’t been in touch with any of them.
Leah, who reports she was a victim of stalking when she was younger, told us, “I feel for these girls and I want them to have a voice. When you finally come forward and the adults around you try and shut you up, it’s hard.”
We reached out to Fortuna High School today, Sunday, to get their perspective and have not heard back.
UPDATE 8:28 p.m.: Glen Senestraro, Superintendent of Fortuna Union High School District, reached out to us stating, “When the school was made aware of these allegations, it is our district policy to notify law enforcement. While what is being alleged is serious, we will let the authorities handle the investigation. Since the Humboldt County Sheriff Office is investigating, we do not know any details. Please reach out to them for information.”
Please note: An earlier version places the time of the assault incorrectly in the p.m.
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I fully support this walk out. How common is this situation, well I would say its been happening since I was in high school 30 years ago. I doubt much has changed. I have been involved with other situations now where I see the authorities basically refuse to help, to the point they will go after the victim before the perp. It seems to be a normal stance. Its disgusting. Young ladies, you are speaking for many victims who don’t have a voice, speak loudly.
Look, I am a father of 2 daughters, so a bit protective. But if this were a an article about Covid we would be 100 comments deep into conspiracies after an hour. If it was about guns there would be lines being drawn and sides forming up, if it was about weed the 5 different angles would have been outlined and blame placed. If it was about one white girl being kidnapped the world would be focused upon it. But here we run into the problem, this issue is something few want to talk about, much less publicly. Maybe it will go away if we don’t talk about it. Maybe someones life will be affected for something dumb at a high school party while drunk. BUT, what isn’t talked about is all the silent victims where the assault was the same or even worse. These people carry these things with them for the rest of their lives. It affects their self esteem, their relationships, their formative years. Again I applaud the young women and the men who support them, and parents and other adults who believe them and hold space for them. You are speaking for the many silent victims. And Guys in school, the hero is the one who stands up to the bullies, who doesn’t remain silent, who doesn’t gossip. If someone around you behaves like this, step up, step in.
ok, computer didn’t reset comments, skip that part.
To be fair, there have been some comments removed.
Men and women that get sexually assaulted and if people think I’m out of my mind then they’ve been living in a cave young man just don’t want to talk about it but that is the issue people don’t want to talk about stuff that makes them uncomfortable it’s epidemic and it’s true what you said they just want to sweep it under the carpet I’m anxious to see how the sheriff’s are going to handle it yeah it’s important to get both sides of the story I’m not saying anybody’s lying or anything like that I wasn’t there. I’ve had some horrible things happen to me in my lifetime but nobody ever knows how one feels unless you’re wearing their shoes. I’m glad people came forward and they’re going to hopefully investigate this better than they investigated the death of a lot of the kids up here the murders especially Josiah Lawson’s murder and bring it all out into the open. Because if this is happening and I know what happens and you don’t stop people each time they get away with something and they’re sociopaths typically they get more Brazen more violent and they think they’re Untouchable with the law because that’s what they’ve been shown they’ve gotten away with everything. But I do want to see what Humboldt County does with this because I have been very disappointed with issues that have happened to me and other people I know and how they have so-called not handled it whether it’s through not training properly or just not wanting to write the paperwork. Or trying to save money like the da loves to do plea bargaining. I hope they keep this story up-to-date see where it goes from here. People we all live on this planet let’s take care of each other
Other than dealing with the crowd at the scene, what aspects of the Lawson case did APD fail?
Consider using paragraphs.
Not properly investigating the scene.
Not handling evidence properly.
Failure to process evidence.
Failure to secure suspect vehicle for investigation.
Failure to investigate suspects workplace properly.
Like, those.
Failure to cross-check and vet witness claims before trying to build a case based on them. Failure to ask questions relating to inconsistencies in witness statements. But that might have put the angry mob over the edge.
You lost me at “white girl”.. are you saying that a kidnapped white girl shouldn’t be focused on because of her skin color? Maybe this Ivy girl is white too. Is that an important factor in this situation?
I believe Guest was commenting on the media fever over the missing, now dead girl from NY.
Just don’t understand how him stating her skin color was important. Doesn’t look like her so called “white privilege” worked out for her.
White privilege doesn’t mean bad things don’t happen to you. It means that often people/our culture gives you an advantage.
Khadijah Britton is missing presumed dead out of Covelo but there’s not one hundredth of the coverage/interest in her case as there is in the case of Gabby Petito, a pretty white girl.
People can also be a member of one privileged group (maybe white) and of a underprivileged (maybe poor). And privilege can shift. For instance, one is more likely to end up raped if one is a woman. But more likely to be sought by law enforcement when missing if one is pretty, young, white, and middle-class female than if one is a male with similar attributes.
Gabby Petito had a large internet presence before her disappearance, hence her status as “influencer.” It was her internet presence that drove the concern among followers when she disappeared. If Niki Minaj were suddenly to disappear, you can bet there would be an uproar that would dwarf that which occurred concerning Gabby Petito. Viewing everything through the racial lens is a way to go blind.
I do think to a certain extent you are right that her social media presence gave her disappearance more media attention. But to be real, her Instagram had about 1000 followers when she disappeared. Redheaded Blackbelt has about 7500 and its a very cobwebby corner of the internet. I don’t think her prior “celebrity” did much. Her prettiness, her next door girl (enhanced by her whiteness and her middle class appearance), as well as a number of other attributes all contributed to her case getting a lot of attention.
White privilege means you actually get the media’s attention. Do some research. White kids that go missing are covered by the media way more than a kid of color.. white kids make national news, while kids of color barely make their local new channel. White privilege is also being pulled over and let go without being harassed.. Just because you don’t notice the white privilege you have, doesn’t mean it’s not there.
The only reason any of us heard about it was because she was pretty, not because she was white.
Are you actually saying that Khadijah Britton is NOT pretty?
Money, beauty & reputation. That’s where privilege comes from.
Well said.
I want to know why boys in general are not having it crammed down there Throats from even a young age that you never force unwanted attention onto women or girls it’s never ever ok! Being to drunk is not an excuse! I bet you there’s not one woman in probably this entire world that doesn’t have at least one uncomfortable story about a boy or man that has crossed their boundaries and did something completely out of line! I know i have and every last one of my friends has multiple stories and we are not meek or shy women! it’s wrong and disturbing this is still the response from family/school and community members! I call on all fathers with sons to step up and do your job!! make sure your sons are very aware that touching anyone inappropriately is absolutely not OK and it doesn’t matter how drunk and horny you are if you cross that line there will be consequences! It won’t get better till men are afraid to do it because they don’t want what comes with the price they will have to pay! Learn to use your voices very loud now young ladies because there’s a whole world out there and a lifetime of having to encounter Inappropriate people! The earlier you start The fiercer you will become and the less bullshit you will put up with! Rise up girls your voices are stronger together!💪🗣No means No!
Well what about the girls chasing the boys in grade school holding them down and kissing them? When boys are that age girls have coodies and most people adults and parents laugh and even tease those boys ever stop and think hrmm this might be teaching these boys something that will come back to haunt us later.
Ah! The good old “she made me do it.” Yup. How dare females behave so badly at 8 years old! There will be pay back when the boys turn twenty five.
Pretty lame circular non logic there anti.
Sad and irrelevant.
Maybe he has coodies. You can get vaccinated for that you know.
Whataboutism is a sly way for you to say this was the young woman’s fault. Pretty shitty
I would hope that people know by now that it’s not just young girls or women that are assaulted by young men or older women or that girls don’t assault males. This happens they get raped they get assaulted its domestic violence the same as if it’s the other way around but because young men don’t want to talk about it then people just think it just doesn’t happen to them and because I worked with it for many years it does happen and it’s sad that people don’t look at it like that.
You know it may happen. But men kill or injure their women at more than 10 times the rate women kill and injure men. There are few stories about men disappearing only to be found buried in a shallow grave off some highway having been killed by some woman. In fact a male is much, much, much more likely to be killed or injured by another male than a woman. That simple fact may be why “people don’t look at it like that.” It’s not all about men’s feelings of being treated unjustly by society and women in particular It’s about women DYING and being abused by men because that is by far the biggest statistic. And it’s not likely you’re going to convince anyone that the world is full of men being assaulted by women only they are too shy to mention it.
Absolute TRUTH!
Awesome advice. Voice stops predators , period. I think of women whom can lift an 18 wheeler to save her baby, if they learn to channel that power, dang who’d go near em, when thier pist. I enough felt women were taught, ” OK. Just don’t kill me. I’ll do anything,” instead of you are hurting me and my future. I’m going to ripe your eyes out, and sun dry em.
Hopefully girls. Women find the power they truly have, and attack, yell, and carry God and uck even bug spray, nail file. Learn self defense, a good scream , can give you a good second. To grab both eye sockets and hold tight, while turning limber, uck, never doubt the strength of a scared person…I know I am always afraid…sorry Lil sister, but think of this as , how many boys and girls you actually saved from predators…
You know that woman “lifting a car” thing is an old wives tale? What happened to common sense?
Sometimes people (mostly men) have raised a car on its suspension enough for a tapped person to squeeze out, but they are not lifting the tires off the ground.
There have also been cases where vehicles were balanced in a manner that allowed them to be tipped, and this has been called “lifting” as well.
Of course groups of people have been able to lift cars high enough that tires actually came off the ground
I can raise most vehicles on their suspension without being in an adrenalized state (so can most men).
https://youtu.be/pgkeIVRGeYE
Even with the best preventive education possible, people do things when they are drunk. Its not an excuses, its an explanation. It is almost certain that this young man knew it was wrong and would not have done it sober. So maybe its education about how to use alcohol that was lacking here?
In all the varying states of inebriation I’ve experienced over the last 30yrs+ I have never had a problem NOT assaulting someone or forgeting about consenual relations.
Some people may just not be personally invested in the real joy of consensual relations.
I agree with your comment 100% Guest. I was in high school over 40 years ago and it was happening then also. I am very proud of Ivy Carter and her mother for coming forward and speaking about what happened. I truly hope it will help to bring about some needed change.
How do parents think it’s ok to let a 15 year old party on the beach past sun down? Parents are the problem here, let me guess , you didn’t know they were partying at Centerville , bs. Haven’t heard one parent take any accountability, teenagers have a hard enough time with life,but to offer zero guidance leds to this. Parents on both sides are at fault for this, step up to the plate parents, put alittle effort and love into that child you made. Maybe alittle time and energy into making them a great caring person .
How about finding out who the individual was who brought the alcohol to the party. Fortuna High School kids have been out of control with parties with extreme drinking for years. Any parent who allows their child to attend such parties is also irresponsible. The sick culture of acceptance is an outrage. Sobriety, as well as good academic performance should both be mandatory for participation in any athletics. Remember, alcohol is illegal until age 21.
The misbehavior of these boys is sick. They need to be men and treat girls and women with respect.
Alf, look at much of the programming children are exposed to. Sex and violence. Look at all the young girls/ kids with smartphones who end up talking to child predators.
Public hanging for child abusers?
Our open border child trafficked?
https://cis.org/Arthur/Report-Government-Cant-Locate-Third-Alien-Children-It-Released
Oh great now you want to be like the taliban?
I am so incredibly proud of my daughter and all of the young people participating in this walk out! The way rape and sexual assault is handled needs to change and this is a great way to help make that happen! Survivors shouldn’t be made to feel guilty for speaking up or silenced! They need to feel seen, heard, and know their story matters!
I agree with you but isnt the primary thing that need to change about the way sexual assult is handled is victims must call 911 immediately? Has she been made to feel guilty?
I am extremely proud of these kids for standing up for what is right. I know 2 young ladies who have been sexually assaulted and they are standing strong and using their voices. They need to be heard and believed.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7264998/
STICK kids in front of digital devices that sexualize every commercial, advertisement, movie, everything is geared towards sexualizing children. You don’t have to be blind deaf and dumb to see it in music videos, listen to your kids hip hop music.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/hudson-mayor-craig-shubert-demands-school-board-quit-over-pornographic-assignment
Our schools are not places where children should deal with hyper sexualization
yea its that hip-hop music. I believe they used to blame rock and roll at one time. Same with comic books, certain movies, even the way people danced. Its peoples way of shifting blame away from the actual cause.
MA has a documented history (short on current name) of victim blaming.
I’m surprised he didn’t call for the girls to be investigated.
Damn rock and roll
Banning firearms does not intend to reduce CRIME as a whole.
It reduces the amount of innocent people killed by guns.
And how does that “hip hop” rationale translate further?
The girl, a victim, doesn’t listen to hip hop?
Did a buttload of priests over the last 100 years grow up on hip hop?
Did Jeffrey Epstein or Donald “grab em” Trump have a secret music fetish no one knew about?
Sure, it all makes sense.
The dammed hipity hopity musics.
Not to defend priests, but all scum in authority from ever religious and secular sect hurt children. It’s so nasty, sometimes a generational sickness, media does play a role in brainwashing kids, girls wanting to be sex symbols, parents watch garage on TV, and think it’s ok
What percentage of girls do you think “want to be sex symbols”? Do you think girls go around thinking. Oh I want to grow up to be a sex symbol. Do women doctors, teachers, scientists, etc. “want” to be sex symbols. Sex symbol is a term coined by men, to fulfill their fantasy of what a women should be.
Before that it was Jazz…and if memory serves, the waltz was considered quite scandalous and erotic by some at the time of it’s introduction.
The WALTZ was condemmed for it’s potential of “overstimulating” women ☺
If anyone who knows facts about this terrible trend wants to speak about it at the upcoming Women’s March Rally, October 2 at the Eureka Courthouse, leave a message here / below with contact info (and/or maybe Kym can connect us). No guarantees. But this seems to me a vital problem to highlight!
Why don’t ya take about 20% off the details bud.
Wish ya weren’t so awkward.
It’s not polite kiss and tells
“She says that at exactly 12:28 p.m…”
If she left for the party at 10:30 p.m. I’m pretty sure you mean *12:28 a.m.* Kym.
Again adding weight to the valuable life and sanity saving motto : “Nothing good happens after midnight ”
Ridiculous drunken highschool parties are not safe places for a million different reasons as illustrated by this overly explicit report. Maybe just stay home and study.
Seems like something that should have been kept between the parents. These are kids we are talking about here with a lot of lessons to learn, and a lot of life to live. Kids do make mistakes, and ruining one kids life for something like this is overkill.
Also of note, this story is written as so “the accused made a move on the accuser, and the accuser did not say “no, stop, this is not okay” but had time to “pinch her friend that something was wrong” even though it all “happened so fast”… So she had time to signal her friend something was wrong but not tell the accused to stop? Hmmmm. Correct me if I am wrong, but this critical detail is missing from the article. How would the accused have known it was not okay if the accuser never said “no”? Keep in mind, these are kids we are talking about here, with undeveloped brains, are still learning about sexual education, and the “do’s and dont’ s in society”… This may be the standard now for adults, but certainly not for kids.
Do we live in a day and age where you must ask someone else if you can make a move on them? I dont remember this being the status quo growing up.
This boy needs to be punished. No more football. Mabey some law enforcement. I have a daughter. Makes me very mad. This crap is also happening at south fork I’ve heard. Hopefully all these predators get exposed before it’s too late. Dads can get pretty protective when comes to their daughters
No one is saying this boy shouldn’t be punished, but involving law enforcement, the social media lynch mob, the school, all seems like overkill. According to this article, this boy admitted to wrong doing (keyword here, BOY) with the accuser and tries to make things right, but instead is met with “thanks for your apology, now enjoy my social media lynch mob, school protests, and legal action”… Doesnt really add up. In my day, if someone admits wrong doing and tries to apologize, people would not take it this far.
Your days created a lot of bullshit that we are dealing with today..
From Bruce Cavanaugh to Clarence Thomas.
Silenced women and men in power.
It’s the nature of progress to leave “your days” behind.
This article is about a march.
If the boy doesn’t like social media comments, he can silence them by turning it all off.
It is not “overkill” by any stretch. Sexual assault is a CRIME, no matter who commits it.
“ In my day, if someone admits wrong doing and tries to apologize, people would not take it this far.” Really? Maybe that’s why it’s still going on.
Yea, really… I guess you probably come from a town that burns people on the cross and shows no humility
He has received no form of punishment or corrective education, according to the article. That’s why it had to go this far.
How do you know? Do you know the family? Do you know what has transpired at home? I bet the answer is no.
When you say things like that, you are just adding fuel to the lynch mob fire. Some parents actually believe in punishing their kids behind closed doors.
If your daughter, wife or sister was assaulted in the manner described you would not want law enforcement involved? Really?
If this happened to my daughter of similar age, and the boy was of similar age, and the boy apologized, I wouldn’t take it to law enforcement. I could think of more fitting punishments without ruining a kids life.
Teach them to say no, loudly. Drunken teen boys are likely to do stuff like this for as long as we have drunken teen boys on the planet.
Of course it is wrong and cannot go uncorrected, but it should be expected to sometimes occur. Similar to all other crimes.
I agree with you, teach them to say “NO”
You are asking how the boy didnt know what he did was wrong?
So you normally fondle girls PRIVATE AREAS at social events?
Maybe you missed the text the boy sent, saying he did something wrong?
Geez, I thought the boy was going to be the bad story, but you are quickly taking over.
Let’s break this down so you have an easier time understanding the timeline of events, k Brian…
According to this article, the accused admitted to being “incredibly drunk” that night, so was the accused in the correct state of mind to know what was, and wasn’t right? Those texts of the accused’ s wrong doing came after that night…
Last I checked, I am not the one on trial here by the social media lynch mob, so let’s keep on target.
I am simply talking about what is in this article, which has to do with kids…
K. Let’s see how you understand.
The boy knew what he did was wrong, hence the text.
Being drunk does not excuse responsibility for actions.
Pretty simple.
The next day, [edit]
I understand the timeline fine.
You are not understanding the problem.
FACT: Kids make mistakes, always have, and always will. Make sure you keep this same energy when it happens to someone close to you.
Being drunk doesn’t turn a person into a sexual predator.
Simple
Yes it does/can, sometimes even a murderer. Are you not familiar with the effect of high doses of alcohol?
Way to turn this into the most extreme side of the debate possible. This looks all too familiar, “first it’s the mask mandate, the communists take over”
That trivializes the assault on the victim. In vino veritas. Not only did he assault other girls but when Ivy tried to keep from doing so, he assaulted her then tried to shift the blame for it onto her. That is what he believes in doing. He did it before. Repeatedly. And the apology only came after it looked like she was not going to be the good little trooper and keep quiet. He actually asked her to “defuse” the situation so there were no consequences for himself as if that was what was important. And apparent the school was willing to let this fly without looking into it.
This is the attitude across society- this man is too important to be held accountable for what he did to women- that not only were women to suffer his abuse but they were not even important enough themselves to be complain about it afterwards.
Where in this article does it explicitly state “Ivy tried to stop the accused from touching Ivy?” I just re-read it twice to make sure it doesnt. And, by bringing up other alleged victims without proof is not appropriate.
Read again. Quotes are usually not expected to made up.
I just read it again, I am not seeing it. please show me where it explicitly says “Ivy tried to stop him from touching her (ivy)”
Agreed. Pretty sick. Especially the people that are commenting sticking up for guy. There’s only one side to this. If your not backing the girl you are a sicko. There is no excuse. Period. Unbelievable. He got called out and he will pay the consequences
“There is only one side to this???” You would make a great judge “Freedumb.” Can I interest you successful defamation suits against female accusers? Amazing the reaction this article has provoked that’s based on conjecture. I’m all for taking EVERY allegation seriously, but at the end of the day until formal charges have been filed let’s not ruin a kid’s life. If it’s true justice will be done, until then defaming a child isn’t something a “righteous” person like yourself would do.
It’s the social media lynch mob, guilty until proven innocent!!!
I am positive they wouldnt keep this same energy if it were their kid…
And here we agree. It’s very easy to demonize people we don’t know. Much harder when we do know them.
If you agree with me, why you keep declining my other comments? Just because it doesn’t fit your narrative?
You are on moderation. That means you broke rules and I have to check to make sure you are not breaking more rules before I allow you to comment. I have been a wee bit busy for the last couple of hours. I’ve put out four stories (two of which were fatal crashes.) I finished my homemade bread and started my stew for dinner.
I’m just now getting to moderating yours and others comments when I have a chance.
Homemade bread? That in itself is a lot of work.
And yummy. The stew was good on its own but the bread was the next step up.
Do you use oyster mushrooms in your stew? If not, try it, it is the next step up. They should be popping… Or might have already started after the first rain…
I used the store-bought ones this time. My son is the mushroom hunter and hasn’t brought me any recently.
He admitted in text. So yea only one side. If he would have remained silent I would agree with you. But glad he didn’t. Makes a easy conviction
Exactly, well said, Guest. Enough is enough.
It was not a school event. You can make your point without resorting to lies.
YES, we absolutely DO live in a day and age where you must ask someone else if you can make a move on them! As it should be. Unfortunately it wasn’t the status quo when I was young either, but it should have been. And do you consider reaching into someone’s pants and grabbing their genitalia without their consent “making a move”? It is assault.
I can understand your point, but again, I am going to nail this home, these are kids we are talking about here. You can ask a kid to take out the garbage every day of the week and watch them fail this trivial task how many times… You can ask a kid to not speed in their car, will they listen? You can ask a kid to do a whole lot, and watch them fail. Kids are not perfect…
This is not about “what I consider to be wrong or right”, because this story doesnt involve me. I am saying kids WILL make mistakes, and that is what happened here. If a girl grabbed my genitals without consent, I would pull away and immediately let her know it wasnt okay. I would not just let it slide, then blast them all over social media for it later. But I guess that is the difference in my generation, and this new generation.
This is not about “what I consider to be wrong or right”, because this story doesnt involve me.
…..
If a girl grabbed my genitals without consent, I would….
That was a quick slide.
You do realize that my response proves my point. [edit]
I agree. Todays society is so eager to jump to conclusions about anything. These are young kids. Over the years we have literally seen in the media that Opinions and assumptions are facts now, everybody is guilty until proven innocent, and its not about facts its about who’s 1st to share their versions of their own personal opinions. Its important to listen and gather all info, with all emotions aside. Reading these comments im disappointed how quick everyone is to make threats and insult eachother. It really dont feel like its about right and wrong anymore its about crucifying anybody that people FEEL deserve extreme punishment.People feel very superior giving their 2 cents on something they did not witness themselves. Running to social media to recruit people on your side, and making death threats to the family is so messy its another form of Bullying, especially if there was already a police report filed. Parents threatening children, which then their kids jump right on and do as well. After knowing, so far, all the facts, it Looks like another messy small town he said she said fiasco. Everyone knows investigations take time, taking the law into your own hands just creates more issues and more drama.
I think that ‘some’ of these commenters, in supposed ‘opposition’ to one another, are, in fact, one and the same.
I’ll let YOU, decide WHO, they might BE.
Yes. For you it was a “mistake.” A mistake repeated and accepted as the way things are. Ivy asked him to stop groping other women and he attacked her. You’re delusional that her words would have stopped him. He stopped when someone else knocked him over. Then he sought to blame her. What part of of this is OK with you because they are only “kids?” How many other women are to be attacked while you equate this with failing to take out the trash?
Sound’s like they are teenagers who soon will be adults. It needs to be dealt with. The “kid” years are the years that you teach them the difference between right and wrong. Raise good boy’s who become good men. I highly doubt this young girl would put this story out on such a public platform unless it is true. Good for her.
It only went to social media and marches after the boy was not punished.
Rape is not a “mistake”
Rape isn’t even part of this conversation. Do your research
What he did was as close to rape as you can get. Do your research
Oh god… If it were rape, rape charges would have been filed.
Well, he is a kid now but soon he’ll be an adult. He needs to learn right now, girls aren’t to be treated like that!! It’s nice to see girls supporting each other at that age. There are many women who were mistreated greatly by boys when they were young and it messes with you your whole life and trauma is passed down through generation’s.
Exactly.
Consent.
Is about far more than saying No.
It’s about saying Yes…I want this.
Without a Yes (consensual) it’s a No (non-consenual).
Its a stupid idea completly counter human nature, and not required to prevent sexual assaults.
Well then, you are way out of the loop. You need some education.
Nature vs habitual
That “stupid” idea has been teaching people, mostly men, for decades now to recognize the very real boundaries of other people, mostly women.
This boy in the story clearly doesn’t have that awareness.
If he did this wouldn’t have happened.
You are clearly telling us that you are an animal, unable to control your urges. WOW
Everyone who engages in this “logic” you just spewed out it a hypocrite. Every sexual encounter does not begin with an affirmative “yes.” Think real hard about your life, have you used that approach to your romantic life? If you have, I’m sorry. If this is true, it’s horrible and the perpetrator should be punished accordingly. However, what you just wrote is nonsense.
Interesting how “men” seem to have a real problem understanding this.
I hear stupid and hypocrite but no significant rebuttal or addressing of the issue.
Seems some folks need to do some growing up.
How many men can guarantee amongst all sexual encounters that not even 1 person has felt pressured?
If people aren’t able to handle some real talk before being sexual they may not be ready or mature enough to be having sex.
Granted “some” encounters provide obvious consent between “partners”…but not often enough to disregard the need for overt consent for many encounters.
You are the problem by condoning this behavior. There’s a victim here. It’s not the football player like you are saying!
You must not be a daughter or have a daughter.
Either way, in my opinion, this could have been handled differently is all. A little humility for a messed up situation goes a long way. Kids make mistakes. Should he pay for it for the rest of his life?
Assault is not a mistake. It’s a crime.
Yes absolutely you need to ask before you stick your hand in someone’s vagina! Always. That’s not “making a move”. Maybe her first reaction was to reach for her friend, maybe she was scared, sometimes you freeze up in situations like this. Yes, he’s young. Nows the time he learns since his parents obviously didn’t already teach him consent.
Okay – so how do you know what he has been going through at home? How do you know he hasn’t, or isnt being punished? Do you know the family personally? Or is this a “he is not be punished out in the open on social media” kind of thing? Some parents actually believe in handling family matters behind closed doors.
What I’m saying is, he should have been taught the concept of consent BEFORE this happened. Focus
I think its important not to formulate an opinion based off a C-list article such as this. Unfortunately, this is all the information we have. However, it’s not ALL the information. I’m a local attorney and before we cast judgments on minors, why don’t we wait for more FACTS. Every accusation should be taken seriously but in this country you’re innocent until proven guilty. There was witnesses’s and other people at this “party.” If this atrocity occurred let it be proven in the court of law not the court of this comment’s section.
Finally, the voice of matter and reason!!!
Exactly, Liz w
And you’re right it wasn’t the status quo when we were growing up. That’s why the boys if this generation are learning the hard way. Girls finally have a voice.
So you say they are just “kids” and he made a mistake, that they should cut him some slack, and forget what happened to those girls that night and supposedly others girls he did this too , they don’t count, why because he plays sports and his future shouldn’t be jeopardize. We’ve seen to many youngsters lives be impacted for a lesser misstep by the judicial system! So no he should held accountable along with his parents….period!
Ok, lets keep this to the current situation at hand, you are spiraling out of control on this one with things that are simply speculation. This is about one guy, and one girl. The moderator of this post even said it herself “no other girl has come forward and filed a complaint against the football player” and until that happens, it’s speculation. They are kids, and that does matter. Do I think he should get in some sort of trouble, sure. The guy knows he made a mistake, which has already been shown, and he is sorry. Ruin his life for it? That is a little extreme of an outcome.
So you are justifying what happened?
Why should anyone have to be told not to assault or rape another person? Do you need to be told not to rape?
No, I am not justifying anything. I am simply stating that this can be handled a different way without ruining someone’s life before it even started…
Why should anyone have to be told not to assault or rape? Do you realize these are kids, and they require 5x more patience and educational reinforcement to make things like this stick. Your education level is showing by the way… You are trying to say that adults and kids have the same knowledge of what is “right and wrong” when in fact, that is proven false.
If the girl stayed silent, it could have repercussions for her and potentially affect her future life. The boy will continue doing it if the girls stay quiet.
Elsewhere in the world…
Those individuals look very safe.
They look very silenced.
Before you all get your pitchforks and torches, remember, this is a kid we are talking about here. After reading some of these comments, some of you are so quick to want this kid to burn in hell for this. Imagine if it were your kid who was accused of this? Would you be seeking the same attention? Would you be seeking legal enforcement?
Teach him a lesson, certainly. But taking the approach of; let’s rally at the local school, let’s try to ruin his sports career, let’s try to ruin his life, let’s try to ruin his life on social media, let’s get law enforcement involved… This is certainly overkill, especially after reading in this article that the kid tried to make things right by apologizing. I understand there are some semantics around the apology, but these are kids at the end of the day.
Imagine the horror if your kid did this? Sorry doesn’t cut it.
Until it happens to your family… Keep that same energy when it is someone you know.
His name should be mentioned.
That is an idiotic comment.
Our policy is not to name juvenile suspects unless law enforcement does.
Not a Juvenile. He is 18. If he was arrested for drug possession or for stealing a car his name and picture would be blasted all over. By treating him differently than others you are being part of the problem.
To the best of my knowledge, he has not been arrested. (And to the best of my knowledge he is 17 but I haven’t seen a birth certificate.)
If you know he has been arrested, please provide your facts. By treating him different than other people accused of a crime, you are being part of the problem.
Well said, Kym
I dont know y yall doing this it ain’t gonna help
“I wanted them to take care of it–parent to parent”
An important lesson in life, crimes should be handled by law enforcement. Very unfortunate story.
The superintendent’s (Glen Senestraro) response quoted in the article further exemplifies the school’s lack of action. Sure, go through the appropriate authorities to investigate, but your student’s DO NOT feel safe and they do not feel heard. The school should be a safe and trusted place. You have a responsibility and an accountability to this, the student’s see one another at your campus, yet defer entirely to external authorities in the meantime.
I fully support the walkout as well. If the player in question wasn’t ashamed before I’m sure he is now. The school has to protect their students and the best way to do that now is to make an example of the young man. The girl that was assaulted should not have to be tormented with this guy walking the halls.
When will Americans wake up and realize that the worship of sports has produced a generation of man-children?
It is bad enough that most Americans think that an invisible sky-daddy will forgive them for all of their bad actions. Now we allow sports “stars” to get away with every crime known to man.
It is beyond ironic that America has the largest prison population in the world, mostly filled with non-violent offenders and at the same time look the other way at violent crimes committed by sports “heroes”. It is sick.
The average murderer goes to prison for 6 years. Get caught with a gram of crack cocaine and go to prison for 10. Sick. Sick. Sick.
It is time that America stops obsessing over murderers, superhero movies, sports, guns, violence, and anti-social sex. Instead it is time to fund education, the arts, the humanties.
Men-children playing with balls. That is what America has become.
First, to the young lady who is being so brave in sharing her story, I believe you and I applaud all those who walk out in solidarity with you. You are not only standing up for one person, but for all who have been sexually assaulted – including many who have never reported what happened to them. I’ve worked with many young girls (and boys) who have been groped, sexually harassed, stripped naked and had their pictures posted online, drugged, and even gang raped EVEN WHILE AT SCHOOL or at parties where schoolmates were attending. These events have happened at Zane Middle School, Sunnybrae Middle School, McKinleyville High School, Arcata High School, Fortuna High School and Eureka High School for sure. It even occurs at the elementary school level, as the youngest victims I personally know of were in first grade. These and doubtless many more incidents have been occurring for decades. I’m sure school administrators are not even aware of most of these cases, as few are ever reported, but others they have definitely heard about. It is understandable why most incidents aren’t reported. There is so much shock, humiliation and pain involved, it can be very difficult to know what to do when you have been victimized in this way. How do you tell an administrator you were just assaulted in the hallway in front of the person who just assaulted you? How do you tell the football coach that some of his players spend their free time planning the next party and picking which girl they’re going to drug and rape? How do you tell anyone at school you were just drug into the boys’ locker room and held down by two of your bullies while a third one raped you? How do you speak up when you are the one who is unpopular, who they will call a liar, and knowing that everyone is going to either know what happened to you or will believe those who say you are making it up, or will call you a slut and say you somehow asked for it. If even adult women are not reporting sexual assaults for these same reasons, and the victims who do report it are put through hell with few convictions, and minimal sentences for the offenders, how do you expect an adolescent girl (or boy) to tell those in authority? Most administrators I’ve met don’t want to believe that such things occur on their campus, but they do – and have been happening for far too long. Most school staff members – including administrators – are not trauma informed. If I work with one person who claims it has happened to them, it is an isolated incident, perhaps… but when I have know several young girls these things have happened to – especially girls who don’t know each other or are unaware that there are other victims like themselves – with virtually the same exact story – then it is indicative of a much larger issue. When the adults treat sexual harassment on campus by dismissing it as mutual flirting, saying it’s just because he has a crush on you, or minimizing it by saying “boys will be boys” or saying it’s just “locker room talk,” then they are contributing to the acceptance of, and even normalizing or encouraging, sexual abuse. When they dismiss it as ‘a law enforcement issue,’ and not doing anything at the administrative level to address sexual harassment, assault, bullying and reporting within their schools, they are (intentionally or not) brushing it under the rug. This sends the message that it’s okay with them, to be expected, or that the victims don’t matter. I hope instead they at least choose to put on a white shirt that day or walk out with the students or somehow take a stand with the victims and create a way for these incidents to be addressed. One has a hard time learning at school when they don’t feel safe from those they attend school with. At the very least, I think that makes it an educational issue. To all the people out there who have experienced bullying, harassment and assault – both on and off campus – whether recently or many years in the past – I believe you. It wasn’t your fault. You did not deserve what happened to you. I know you’re out there. It’s okay to speak up – even if it was a long time ago. It’s okay to find someone safe to tell, even if the statute of limitations has run out, because you deserve to be heard.
Thank you for this comment. I’m working at home but putting on a white shirt now. This walkout deserves our attention and respect, all of us.
https://kymkemp.com/2021/09/26/refuse-to-be-silenced-students-to-walk-out-wearing-white-at-local-high-schools-after-local-girls-allegedly-sexually-assaulted/?fbclid=IwAR1osY-H1cVILUW_4euAWIJATTxzUuIbasZe4KcQM-JfmYpeTMh9SwJ4KTI
This is what happens when your football coach is also the Athletic Director, protect the program at all costs, disappointing
Children shouldn’t be out partying after midnight, and who supplied the booze? No one seems to think they are the ones who should be in trouble. How many girls go missing here every year?
Mothers teach your daughters how to protect themselves, fathers teach your sons to be respectful and the consequences if they aren’t.
Seems the boy should get counseling, the girls can have their day to make their statement, but the parents and the person(s) who supplied the alcohol are the ones who should have known better and be held accountable. Did any parent check for a responsible adult at this party, if not you were negligent to your child.
Sex ed in schools doesn’t seem to be helping either, maybe they need to rethink their program.
Don’t feed your kids garbage …..garbage in, garbage out.
https://vigilantcitizen.com/
Hooray for alcohol.
You kids have my support 100% if there is anything I can do look me up on Facebook
I thought all High Schools had a code of conduct where athletes had to sign a contact that they would not drink,do drugs or do anything detrimental. If that’s the case the player should be dismissed from the team.
Fortuna does. https://kymkemp.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Athletic-Contract-2014-15.pdf
OK, I have to wonder how many of the outraged commenting here are committing adultery as they type in outrage. How many are flirtatious women who have sought attention and then bitter when it doesn’t work out, men looking for a little extra on the side, but willing to hang the young boy because their daughter might be treated the way they themselves treat women.
Somehow I doubt you all are as righteous as you pretend.
I wonder how many others were touched that night, willingly?
These are kids, be a good example. Stop injecting your own drama into their lives.
It didn’t happen at school, it happened at an unchaperoned drunken party, your kids shouldn’t have been there, they should have been taught to leave such a “party”.