Black Voices, Telling Experiences of Racism, Are Heard in Humboldt County PSAs
Sabina Gallier in her DIY home studio. [Image submitted]
By Silvia Alfonso/Community Voices Coalition
Radio airwaves can provide a refuge where people feel at ease listening to their favorite music, but they can also carry messages that challenge the way an audience thinks. KSLG program and music director and DJ Sabina Gallier aims to do just that. During commercial breaks at the local radio station, her Black Voices Humboldt PSAs have brought listeners the emotional stories of anonymous contributors recounting racist experiences in Humboldt County.
For the past six years Gallier, has focused solely on indie and alternative music curation for her shows. But, as the Black Lives Matter protests continued across the country, she wanted to use her platform to speak out and show support. As a Black woman with her own experiences of racism in Humboldt County, Gallier decided to create a collection of audio stories from Black community members to share on the radio.
“In Humboldt County, the Black community is small and their voices are not heard — they tend to be overshadowed,” Gallier told the Journal from her home studio. “With radio, thousands of voices are heard, people are constantly listening, and turning them into audio stories makes it more personal.”
Gallier said the process wasn’t easy. After talking to Lost Coast Communications General Manager Bill Prescott and getting approval, Gallier put out the call on social media. Initially, people were supportive of the idea but there was a lot of hesitancy from potential participants. Some weren’t ready to share their stories or found it emotionally difficult. So she assured respondents they could remain anonymous and their self-made recordings started rolling in.
Prescott said that a project like Gallier’s has the ability to continue increasing awareness, it showcases the problems Humboldt County faces and the need to work as a community to face them.
Gallier knew the process for this project was going to be tough but ultimately a good thing for the community. However, listening to some of the responses and reading the written submissions brought her to tears, like one respondent who wrote, “I recall with clarity being in the first grade on the playground the first time someone called me the N-word and spit in my face.” Another tells of being threatened and called slurs, only to receive no help from police. Yet another shares how she was taunted by classmates over her hair. Gallier said she needed to take a bit of a break and step back from the project and ask herself, “Am I ready to take on this emotional load?”
“I wanted these stories to really highlight why [the larger community] needs to start understanding this issue,” Gallier said. “Racism is still happening and these experiences are extremely valid. We live in a beautiful, forested area with a cloud of hate over our head.”
Gallier’s post calling for contributions also created its own ripple effect as members of the Black community started re-posting and talking about it, encouraging each other to share their stories.
“It is good to engage local happenings because it helps reinforce ideals in how our brain perceives patterns,” said Anthony DeLuca in the comments to Gallier’s PSA posts. “It warms my heart to see positive, productive programming.”
Gallier compiled the responses working from home after having to move her studio into her closet. She said it was the best spot in her house with the least noise interruption, so she started putting up soundproof foam and, when that ran out, folded blankets and nailed them into the walls. She said it was mentally difficult to get used to since her work space was now in her bedroom, but she feels fortunate that she can work at all.
With all the responses in hand, Gallier split the audio stories and produced three short pieces in the style of public service announcements.
Two focused on personal experiences with racism in the county, alternating speakers’ voices in different sections to show the power of anonymity. For the third piece, Gallier worked with Sharrone Blanck of the Eureka chapter of the NAACP to create a PSA dedicated to local resources.
“The weaving of stories through different voices has a great impact and to have several voices describe similar experiences is powerful. It was done beautifully,” said Lorna Bryant, who is Black and the former office manager and radio host at KHSU. “In a community where you don’t really see others that look like you, to know that you have resources, it gives you a greater sense of connection, safety and comfort.”
To Gallier’s surprise, the PSAs have received an overwhelmingly positive reaction from the public, which listened as voices filled with heartbreak talked about experiences all too many have in Humboldt County. She said during her time as a radio personality social justice issues have tended to be brushed off by listeners who typically tuned into KSLG for the music. By taking on this kind of community project, Gallier challenged her audience and potentially reshaped their reactions.
Bryant said the community needs more of this, especially from white residents.
“Don’t be afraid to damage your white social capital,” she said. “You may feel discomfort but the moment where you step away from your privilege outweighs the discomfort you feel for that short time.”
Prescott hopes listeners will take those steps. “I think in Humboldt County, people believe in social justice, but don’t know how to approach it or how to be allies,” he said. “I hope that the people hearing these will take a moment to look at their own thoughts and biases.”
If the project is challenging listeners, it first pushed Gallier herself.
“It gave me more purpose,” Gallier said. “Off-air, I’m very outspoken and loud about social issues, and I’ve found that music and social issues can really go hand in hand, and they’re powerful together.”
Gallier said she wants to continue the momentum of the project but isn’t sure what’s next. The three PSAs are running during commercial breaks on KSLG but she’s taking some time before tackling more recordings. But she hopes this conversation continues.
“Death, anger and silence need to stop,” Gallier said.
LINKS to the three PSAs:
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=3113202032128498&extid=Lwu47w0UzfAcEsFF
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=287833689136548&extid=YyCyHmsdtH4VDpcJ
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=659799358220643&extid=H2xLNquk4FCvufvw
Silvia Alfonso (she/her) is a freelance reporter from the Bay Area based in Arcata.
The Community Voices Coalition is a project funded by Humboldt Area Foundation and Wild Rivers Community Foundation to support local journalism. This story was produced by the North Coast Journal newsroom with full editorial independence and control.
The Community Voices Coalition is a project funded by Humboldt Area Foundation and Wild Rivers Community Foundation to support local journalism. This story was produced by the North Coast Journal newsroom with full editorial independence and control.
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Ironic to read of “white social capital” when Sylvia and Lorna are boosting their careers manipulating guilty white liberals. Hey, it’s a living… Since they don’t “feel safe” in Humboldt, what are the statistics on criminal victimization of blacks locally, and how does it compare with other areas where there should be safety in numbers? Facts matter.
Thank you Sabina for creating a space where people can share their personal experiences. This is how some people can start the healing process. I still remember negative experiences that I have encountered as a young child in the city and even as an adult when I came to Humboldt. I think it’s hard for some people to see how their words and actions affect others due to their own biases, upbringings, believing things they have seen on social media, personal experiences, or simply because it’s easier to see life from your own point of view. Thank you again for creating a space that can help some humans heal and others to have an understanding of what their fellow humans may go through.
You look very happy in your picture I’m sure you’re happy in your community you’re just looking for a platform something to talk about other than the fires… Your life could be way worse look at these missing girls And men Humboldt County On murder mountain there’s
All these missing folks even men In covelo race don’t matter … Not in Northern California it’s a scary place up there any race … How about we talk about the missing no discriminating against race…If you’re in school and you’re not liking it believe me you can get a transfer and I wish anybody would do that because I don’t know who wants to stay up there that place is a murder Central…And those police don’t care and they do not know how to handle a murder case ..They’re just gonna let it go cold
This is a bunch of bullshit to be honest. Let’s see some stats. How many students of different races are victim to a hate crime locally each year? Not just getting there little feelings hurt but actually some type of actual hate crime of any kind? It doesn’t happen here in Humboldt.
Shut it down and stop dividing the people!!
“It doesn’t happen here in Humboldt”
lol.
Talking about the differences between us is not divisive. Refusing to acknowledge it is.
Just because you as a white person haven’t seen it or don’t recognize it when you do, doesn’t mean it’s not there.
I’m pretty sure Bigfoot is brown, not white. With all the hair I can’t tell for sure though.
“Talking about the differences between us is not divisive”
Endlessly telling white people who aren’t racist that they ARE in fact racist, (they’re just too stupid and privileged to recognize their racism) IS DIVISIVE. For three months I’ve watched blacks (and whites) marauding through the streets, justifying stealing and destroying, attacking whites who were doing nothing more than trying to peacefully eat dinner. I’ve been told to ignore the murder rate in this country, massively disproportionately committed by blacks; not only should I ignore it, but it’s my fault. I watch the scumbag news media endlessly disparaging “old white men'”. I wouldn’t dare use my real name on this website for fear of violent retaliation because of my opinions. Yet Sabina, in a so-called racist county that’s probably less than 5% black, feels perfectly comfortable putting her name and picture out there while telling us, a predominately white county, that we are racist. Do you think I could do that in ANY majority black city in America? Not a chance. So who are the racist oppressors? Fuck all of you woke assholes and your whiney, bullshit racism stories. I’m sick of it. Lots of us are sick of it. We are well aware of what discrimination feels like.
Yep, if I were you, I wouldn’t put my name on my comments either…
“Yep, if I were you, I wouldn’t put my name on my comments either…”
I’m glad that you are finally conceding that it is the left who are disproportionately unhinged with violence and intolerant of free speech. And you know as well as I do that even if my rhetoric wasn’t so incendiary and laced with profanity, it is still unsafe to disagree with the left. It’s not even safe to wear a Trump hat for fucks sake. How about the salon owner in SF shutting down her biz because of death threats, whose crime was to point out Nancy Pelosi’s hypocrisy? I guess she should of just shut the fuck up and stayed off of TV huh? That’ll teach her to go public.
Rollin, violent acts occur on both sides as you well know. This man who shot a police officer in June…far right https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-16/suspects-charged-killing-santa-cruz-cop-and-oakland-federal-officer I could go on but trying to define the righteousness of any cause by the idiots on either side seems futile.
The point is that a black girl in a white county can tell us all how racist we are with no fear of repercussion. So how racist are we really? Meanwhile, I can’t walk down the street with a MAGA hat on, let alone a hat stating something like “the left is racist” without fearing for my life. So, spare me the two lame examples of “far right” people committing violence; you are soooo grasping at straws. There are tens of thousands of people rioting, obstructing, threatening, starting fires. Two cops were shot last night in Compton. Not in June…..last night! Out of this entire shit show that has dragged on for 3 months, how many of these people do you think are “right wingers”? I’m curious, how deep in the sand do you have to bury your head not to see this?
Getting a little taste of what Black people have had to endure for years super sucks for you doesn’t it rollin? Equality and the struggle to achieve it can look a lot like oppression if you have never been a part of actual equality. It’s sad that you are so scared of a little criticism that you won’t even use your own name.
Oppression is more about class warfare.
The rich phuks, could care less about the color of your skin as long as you play their game.
I suppose you have to have a cause to fight for, but the important ones are so far from being corrected, all we can do is fight amongst ourselves for the scraps of what is left of upward mobility.
I’ve been hearing about this cultural revolution for some time…, and it’s interesting to be living with a historical perspective of the few controlling the many .
Being so sensitive you have to always act as a victim and pull the race card is the issue. Stop acting like someone is racist and pointing fingers just to try to get your way ..
Humboldt is quite a welcoming community to so many. Arcata is hippy AF. It’s not some racist little spot. Stfu.
African Americans be complaining but just got here to Humboldt couple years ago. Don’t even hear the natives complain that much about white people. Don’t like it… GTFO.
Yeah. With that attitude, of course you won’t hear the local Black and people of color complaining about your ass, but I’ll bet they are anyway. Humboldt is incredibly racist and if you don’t see it, it’s because you don’t want to. There is no race card, there are only the experiences of people that you refuse to believe actually happens. And what kind of ‘way’ are these people trying to get by sharing their experiences like this, besides some compassion from their neighbors? If you don’t like it leave is such a welcoming statement, you are clearly a paragon of kindness.
people like yourself assume that all black people feel the same.
There is plenty of black voices in our community that does not think this area is racist.
In fact ive known many black people who have moved here specifically to get away from racism and say arcata and eureka is a great community to live in.
Need i also remind all the “POC” that most of you are actually white people.
I’m going to put it out there, if you have any white genetics or interbreeding in your linage then you too are white! Including the girl making this black voices podcast. She is also a white liberal with a little intermixing of African genetics. This whole dividing everyone on race and then assuming this group thinks this and that group thinks that is called collectivist mindset. This is actually the source of racism and it is all over these liberal Marxist college kids!
Show us the statistics, Humboldt isn’t racist these people don’t know how not to be victims.
I wish I could share how many times I’ve been wronged in Humboldt. Unfortunately the specifics have a gag order. What I can say is they involve race, disability, gender, etc. The perpetrators are minorities, LGBTQ individuals, corrupt EPD officers, Humboldt County ADA and all Management levels, and too many others to count. So, yes, there is racism and discrimination in Humboldt. A high percentage is against white people.
Funny how a minority who has such fewer freedoms than the majority can control the words used by the majority , imagine if not only the N word was a crime to use but any word used to identify any differences between the genders classes races or locals , without being able to discern the differences each person would be judged and accountable for solely their own actions . That would also apply to passing the blame for laziness or failure on to things that happened generations ago. I highly doubt that is what is wanted by those protesting , in fact what I am hearing is that it is easier to riot protect and blame history, than in fact do the brow beading hard work personally to pull ones self out of whatever messed up place they find themselves in by the boot straps and do what is right regardless of who or what wronged or cheated or whatever . Winning is about making it through the day week month year knowing that in spite of all the set backs of life you made it and you succeeded regardless of how hard life tried to hold you back.
Yes. A very welcoming place. As your kind words so clearly demonstrate.
God… Heres another guilt trip we dont need.
This whole thing is pure narcissism incarnate.
Let’s look at the statistics of people who come from out of the area, who aren’t even from Humboldt County, who come here just to guilt-trip people into feeling bad about themselves because of shit they had nothing to do with it in the inner city 6 hours driving time south.
Making it all about you, and whether you feel guilty or not, is pure narcissism.
I suspect everyone posting here has had their self esteem damaged as a child no matter what race…were you fat, have buck teeth, freckles, big ears, poor trailer trash, and teased or bullied in school?
Being treated as the outsider is not unique to one race, but every race has the capacity to be kinder.
Being treated as an outsider is not the same thing as being the victim of racism. That is a false equivalence.
Someone teasing you or touching your curly hair, or confusing you for someone else is not the same thing as being the victim of racism. That is a false equivalence.
Unwanted touching is criminal assault.
As a white person, you don’t get to define what’s racist behavior and what’s not. As a human being, you don’t get to define what hurts other human’s feelings. Hair touching and thinking you look like someone you totally don’t just because you have a similar skin tone are both quite racist. Do some research into what racism actually is and consists of. It’s more than just being mean on purpose to a person.
Let me guess, you studied in the social sciences?
You don’t get to tell anyone anything without having to be corrected for such a small amount of life perspective.
Your textbooks taught you an agenda.
I hope you find fulfillment in the pursuit In self awareness
Tall fences and locked gates make good neighbors.
The welcome mat has been overstepped, by so many, regardless of race.
Don’t you love people pushing their college professors urban socialism in a country setting?
Cultural Marxism is alive and well around all institutions of “higher learning”.
If you are feeling guilty, maybe that’s between you and your conscience. Also, you are a little out of date with your ‘inner city’ tropes. The inner cites are full of affluent white people who can afford the ridiculous rent, your assumptions in themselves prove the necessity of this sort of discussion.
and there are no affluent blacks? almost all of what you lay on racism is actually classism. the rich upper class loves to distract and divide the poor lower class so they will never unite against them. by calling all white people privileged and racist you are actually turning people (who are not racist and have had to struggle to make ends meet because they were not born into a rich family) who would be your allies against you. you get many advantages being black like college scholarships that are not academically earned and the ability to get a job when not qualified just because there are no other blacks working there.
You know that’s not what I said. Classism and Racism are indeed intersectional and related. But the inner cities are not full of poor Black people like the outdated and racist tropes of the 70’s – 90’s would have you believe. When you say inner city, that’s the picture you are trying to paint and it’s just not true.
Yes, we need to overcome the racism to address the classism, that is the logical way forward. But poor whites need to realize that they are a part of the white supremist system and help tear it down, and most of us are steadfastly refusing to see our part in it. This whole thread is full of it. Race was invented to keep the poor white people from joining forces with the Black folks in the first place and it’s still doing it’s job today.
‘Yes, we need to overcome the racism to address the classism, that is the logical way forward. But poor whites need to realize that they are a part of the white supremist system and help tear it down, and most of us are steadfastly refusing to see our part in it. ”
Perfect illustration of using “racism” and “white supremacy” to divert from the real issues affecting people of all races, the economic and political disenfranchisement of working people. If you think working class whites have some power over other races regardless of social class, that is magical thinking. Privilege and power are allocated according to socioeconomic class, not race. I’m sure that the ruling class liberals of all races who rally behind BLM and Critical Race Theory to divide the races and justify their power would love your comment. And they haven’t done anything meaningful for the betterment of people in any racial group.
“Race was invented to keep the poor white people from joining forces with the Black folks in the first place and it’s still doing it’s job today.”
No it wasn’t. Race is a statistically substantiated grouping of phenotypic features common to populations that developed in different geographic regions. Critical Race Theory is every bit as toxic and divisive as any other form of racism. It serves its purposes for the ruling class, to divide people by race and suppress class awareness, quite well.
I will play devil’s advocate here, say everything she said is 100% true. So, my question is, if whites really do have all this privilege over other races in this country, why would we step away from something that gives people a leg up on competition in a dog eat dog world? If I have some privilege that helps me feed my own family and my own kids better than other people are able to, explain to me why I would want to sacrifice that? Its a hard world and opportunities to separate oneself from the pack are hard to come by nowadays. If I am not causing violence, hatred, or bolstering fear in other communities and am just living my life, what am I doing wrong? Just because I’m white and exist I support untold amounts of “systemic racism?” My other question is, if the shoe was on the other foot, and the system supposedly favored blacks way more than any other population in the country, and blacks were the ones who were “privileged,” would they willingly give that up? Honestly it doesn’t sound like anybody is truly striving for equality, it just sounds to me like people are trying to work whatever angle they can to get a leg up on other people, even if it means attempting to make a person feel guilty for the mere act of having being born. Nah, I’ll keep my privilege, if I truly have some, thank you.
1911, The reason one would “sacrifice” your advantages, is the one of same reasons people have been doing good for centuries–if the world is more fair, then there are less disadvantaged folks feeling like they need to feed theirs and their family at your expense. The Bastille, riots, looting, etc are based in a sense of its a dog eat dog world. Safety networks like social security, universal health care, highway systems, fire departments, etc are based on the theory that a rising tide floats all boats.
You just got to decide if you are a dog or a rising boat.
I’m hearing a lot about “sacrifice” but not much explanation of exactly what
an acceptable sacrifice actually would look like.
Lot’s of demands but for what exactly? To fix a problem you have to define it and present a solution and I haven’t heard much in the way of solutions that make sense.
It’s not like any one of us chose our skin color.
I wouldn’t call it a sacrifice. 1911 did. Talk to him.
As to defining a problem:
Systematic racism puts obstacles in some folks’ path (ranging from making them more likely to be searched, arrested, charged and imprisoned because of the color of their skin to being less likely to be hired, etc) Let’s get rid of those obstacles. For instance: Police should not be in charge of policing themselves (I have a lot of respect for what police have to do but I think police policing police is a terrible idea)
I don’t have the time to go through the solutions but they have been offered.
If any of my comments would ever post maybe she could.
The owner of the site might be a little busy…
Your right, so sorry, my apologies Kym. My last comment was asking the same thing, please disregard. Thank you for all your work, especially on the fires.
What we need is a Secret Police to police the police.
😉
Much was offered by Tim Scott and of course even discussion was rejected by politicians on the left.
Because in order to have the tiny amount of privilege that you do have (I know it’s hard to see when you are poor and live in a mostly white area that the whiteness is giving you a small boost up in certain situations) other people are actively having their dignity and even their lives taken from them. Giving up that privilege that you yourself don’t think you have is what it’s going to take to make a truly equal society. Right now with how things are in the world, you can’t really give up that privilege because it’s a part of your skin, but you can at least use it for good, by helping other that don’t have it to get their fair share in this world and speaking up when you see injustice.
That works when the people you are trying to lift up aren’t trying to bring you down.
Burning peoples businesses and pushing white hatred in colleges is intended to cause violence and misery not equality.
“pushing white hatred in colleges”
You sound like you’ve never been to a college.
No I was busy running one of the most multi racial stores in SF, and reproducing art in a different medium for a Famous Mexican tile artist.
One of our best features in that store was between our employees we spoke 14 different languages, all our customers could be understood in their native language.
Funny thing…all our employees truly liked each other.
Why try to act like you know anything about what goes on in colleges, when you have never been to one?
Do you think it makes you look credible?
Where there’s smoke, There’s fire.
So you’ve never been to a college either?
If incompetent people couldn’t attend, much less graduate, from college , then you might have a point and not just manufacturing insults out of delusions. https://www.wfmynews2.com/article/news/national/professor-lies-about-being-black-george-washington-university-rachel-dolezal-racial-identity-false-racial-identity-claims/65-8f9d393a-ef18-4594-a8de-481866e9e75b
“pushing white hatred in colleges”
I get it. People who have never even been to a college want to pretend like they know shit about what goes on.
College doesn’t make you wise. Life does. So many recent grads with little life experience lecturing the learned like good little robots
“the learned”
lol
You never met an old ass fool?
I didn’t say I have never been to one, my step Dad was a soccer coach, had the keys to UCSF and I spent plenty of time in the library there, and the swimming pool, meeting people.
I learned to Drive in SF state car and actually was busy acquiring knowledge about potential alternative energy there and at Stanford.
So put your assumptions to rest.
You’re the one that never asks a question when you can pretend you know.
For your info.
Academic: I received my PhD in Multicultural Education from the University of Washington in Seattle in 2004. I earned tenure at Westfield State University in Massachusetts. Currently I am Affiliate Associate Professor of Education at the University of Washington, Seattle. In addition, I hold two Honorary Doctoral Degrees. My area of research is in Whiteness Studies and Critical Discourse Analysis, tracing how whiteness is reproduced in everyday narratives. I am a two-time winner of the Student’s Choice Award for Educator of the Year at the University of Washington’s School of Social Work. I have numerous publications and books, including Is Everybody Really Equal?: An Introduction to Key Concepts in Critical Social Justice Education, co-written with Özlem Sensoy, and which received both the American Educational Studies Association Critics Choice Book Award (2012) and the Society of Professors of Education Book Award (2018). In 2011 I coined the term White Fragility in an academic article which influenced the international dialogue on race. My book, White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard For White People To Talk About Racism was released in June of 2018 and debuted on the New York Times Bestseller List where it remained for 85 weeks. It is currently being translated into 5 languages.
Professional: I have been a consultant, educator and facilitator for over 20 years on issues of racial and social justice. I have worked with a wide-range of organizations including private, non-profit, and governmental.
Where do you think shes educating in a barn in Humboldt?
Oh, so you are claiming to be Robin DiAngelo? Why are you on a small local news site arguing with the locals and not claiming your name and photo, in that case?
Whats wrong with you.? And where did I claim to be Robin DiAngelo?
Guess you don’t read very well.
Here’s the last sentence…Where do you think SHE’S educating in a barn in Humboldt?
Maybe that will help you.
Clearly from all my posts she and I have little in common.
Your entire comment was very unclear, and adding all that academic stuff made it look like you were claiming to be her. Why add all that? It’s irrelevent to the conversation.
Guest,
I didn’t say I have never been to one, my step Dad was a soccer coach, had the keys to UCSF and I spent plenty of time in the library there, and the swimming pool, meeting people.
I learned to Drive in SF state car and actually was busy acquiring knowledge about potential alternative energy there and at Stanford.
So put your assumptions to rest.
I don’t know where you got pushing white hatred in colleges from, and this isn’t about burning things, this is about the lived experiences of Black people around you who are pointing out that there is a lot more racism in your community that you want to think there is… If other people gaining equality brings you down, maybe you were a part of what was keeping them down. The whole point is that Black people have been living with violence and misery this whole time and everyone is refusing to acknowledge it, which is what has lead to the current civil right resurgence. Just look at all these comments saying this isn’t really a thing that actually happens on an article with stories from real people who live amoung you saying that it does.
Black people have had horrific experiences imposed on them by SOME white people, I agree with that.
The people in this article are complaining about experiences common to all people of being put down and insulted by a person of another race, Or a asshole who calls the police for no reason.
And yes for the people who spent 20 and mores years building businesses burnt down it’s very much about burning down buildings…especially if they were minorities that owned them.
And by the arrests made we know that some of that arson was done by very wealthy white women.
The white guilt theme is being pushed from kindergarten clear on up to the pentagon…please I’m not stupid and I do my homework.
Do a little research!
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/11/12/a-course-originally-called-the-problem-of-whiteness-returns-to-asu-as-racial-tensions-boil-over-on-campuses/%3FoutputType%3Damp&ved=2ahUKEwjGxb-04eHrAhWGup4KHQ4RAyEQFjAAegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw3yOCNczS-1T_uEUMniS_HY&cf=1
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.c-span.org/video/%3Fc4794466/user-clip-whiteness-studies-whites-evil&ved=2ahUKEwjGxb-04eHrAhWGup4KHQ4RAyEQFjACegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw16nTkLqlcfnWhEInmvb21B
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.questia.com/magazine/1G1-62650125/colleges-reeducate-students-about-evil-white-culture&ved=2ahUKEwjGxb-04eHrAhWGup4KHQ4RAyEQFjAGegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw3aWE90SiEf6_–sJOdXP1q
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.bu.edu/today/2018/checking-your-white-privilege-at-the-door/%3Futm_source%3Dsocial%26utm_medium%3DTWITTER%26utm_campaign%3Dprbumain&ved=2ahUKEwiBsZj14uHrAhUBpZ4KHQ0LDRAQFjAEegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw1sWKxWkI8YwO_kEz07M9J5
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/2389375001&ved=2ahUKEwiBsZj14uHrAhUBpZ4KHQ0LDRAQFjAAegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw0xnpS2IKdEpVYNaen27JOF&cf=1
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.tolerance.org/magazine/fall-2012/confronting-white-privilege&ved=2ahUKEwiBsZj14uHrAhUBpZ4KHQ0LDRAQFjAFegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0lwcfKfNEXGrP_GF1jOM2j
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.newsweek.com/tackling-whiteness-college-campuses-725212%3Famp%3D1&ved=2ahUKEwig8I-p4-HrAhWJsJ4KHZucDjw4ChAWMAN6BAgJEAE&usg=AOvVaw2eyCEATATsolhzOUki5UW9
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://newsone.com/3844723/white-privilege-college-course-webster-university/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwig8I-p4-HrAhWJsJ4KHZucDjw4ChAWMAZ6BAgEEAE&usg=AOvVaw0btoltzgV-x6ShhIuraBUK
I actually went to college, have been a teacher in public school, and can personally attest to the indoctrination of anti white sentiment from grade school all the way through college. Teachers, professors, administrators, board members, etc. bend over backwards to assist minority students, yet do everything they can to undermine whites and guilt them into hating their ancestry. I am proud of my ancestry, even though I’m white by birth, not choice. I am, however, appalled at the attempt to teach love for minorities and hate toward whites on all levels of public education. Hot Coffee is right.
On the other hand, they also indoctrinate people to hate people for caring more about people than animals. There was once a group of “Save the Banana Slugs League” individuals who came to teach hate for humanity and love for banana slugs. The indoctrination is running rampant. Anyone who denies it is wrong.
I was a teacher, Alf. There is a concerted effort to make sure that the majority population (currently white folks) doesn’t ignore the needs of those who are differently-abled, LGBQ, and other minorities. Someday, not to long from now when being white isn’t the majority, your grandkids will be glad we protected their rights.
What makes you think that is going to happen? If liberals get their way and allow unchecked immigration, you are correct, but blacks won’t be the majority either. In my experience south of the border, latinos are extremely racist, so how will that work out? They are immigrating from places that haven’t made any concerted effort whatsoever to bolster equality in those countries, so how will that help quell racism?
The problem is white kid’s rights aren’t protected, only minorities and LGBTQ, etc. Mine certainly haven’t been…
Being white decreases your chances to be accepted to schools, receive financial aid, be hired, receive grants or loans to start a business.
It’s called diversity
“Enrollment in the 468 best-funded and most selective four-year institutions is 75 percent white (non-Hispanic), the Georgetown University Center for Education and the Workforce reports.” https://hechingerreport.org/facts-about-race-and-college-admission/
Whites make up about 61% of the nation as a whole… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States
Could you explain how the disadvantaged white race has a bigger percentage of acceptance at prestigious universities than their percentage of the population as a whole?
Might be that family structure and generational wealth that’s been built for hundred of years. Immigrants from other countries get a free pass to ride on the shoulders of those who sacrificed everything so you can encourage a war on a color of skin, as….privelege?
You might want to check yourself.
What If a poc, or an immigrant, who claimed your white privelege was preventing them from having a news website in this area. Would you feel the need to show them all the ways to build a site, manage the maintenence and upkeep , train them and then hand over everything you’ve worked for, because you were white?
I think that is an excellent way of looking at those who’ve struggled for years to build something, only to have this culture tell you that you don’t deserve to keep your job, because of your privelege.
I’d say that is what the H1B visa program has been doing for American people who training their replacements who are not even US citizens.
It pretty ugly to think that people can’t get enough satisfaction on true merits, but have to play with the guilt and race and privelege card.
Sad.
A 10% discrepancy in participation rates is a large factor.
https://nces.ed.gov/programs/raceindicators/indicator_REA.asp
“Could you explain how the disadvantaged white race has a bigger percentage of acceptance at prestigious universities than their percentage of the population as a whole?”
Many people have tried explaining many times. It’s like talking to a brick wall. To a liberal, the only acceptable explanation is racism. Maybe blacks don’t have the aptitude or desire in EXACTLY the same proportion as whites; ever think about that? Of course not, it’s gotta be racism. And the fact that ninety something percent of construction workers, coal miners, mechanics are men has to be misogyny.
Funny thing is that it doesn’t work the same in reverse. If day care workers, teachers or any other field is dominated by woman, it’s just because woman are better. And if many sports are dominated by blacks, it’s also because they’re better.
doesn’t ignore the needs of those who are differently-abled, LGBQ, and other minorities
Funny that’s the number 1 issue now when at this time in history more has been done to secure their rights than ever before in History.
For your info. Lacey
Robin DiAngelo PHD
Academic: I received my PhD in Multicultural Education from the University of Washington in Seattle in 2004.
I earned tenure at Westfield State University in Massachusetts. Currently I am Affiliate Associate Professor of Education at the University of Washington, Seattle.
In addition, I hold two Honorary Doctoral Degrees. My area of research is in Whiteness Studies and Critical Discourse Analysis, tracing how whiteness is reproduced in everyday narratives.
I am a two-time winner of the Student’s Choice Award for Educator of the Year at the University of Washington’s School of Social Work. I have numerous publications and books, including Is Everybody Really Equal?: An Introduction to Key Concepts in Critical Social Justice Education, co-written with Özlem Sensoy, and which received both the American Educational Studies Association Critics Choice Book Award (2012) and the Society of Professors of Education Book Award (2018). In 2011 I coined the term White Fragility in an academic article which influenced the international dialogue on race. My book, White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard For White People To Talk About Racism was released in June of 2018 and debuted on the New York Times Bestseller List where it remained for 85 weeks. It is currently being translated into 5 languages.
Professional: I have been a consultant, educator and facilitator for over 20 years on issues of racial and social justice. I have worked with a wide-range of organizations including private, non-profit, and governmental.
Where do you think shes educating in a barn in Humboldt?
Where are the Riots? In Seattle … her backyard.
Dude. I don’t believe you. Not with the stuff you have been posting to this comment section.
Who are you talking to?
If it’s me I’m not a Dude. So you have that wrong too.
It’s her description of herself what’s not to believe?
Look at her book on Amazon or google her name… geez
Her book is
White Fragility
Yes, her book, not yours… I am familiar with the book and your comments do not align with the things she has said in the book and interviews subsequently. I do not believe you are who you claim to be. Why would she be on here arguing with the locals in a place she doesn’t even live and not using her own name and picture in the comments until well into the discussion?
Hot Coffee, Claiming to be someone you are not on this website is grounds for banning. You can either withdraw the claim (I’ll delete the post for you at your request) Or if you are comfortable that you are you, do nothing, but if someone proves that isn’t you, then I’d have to ban you which would be sad.
All that might take is a simple email to the real person..
It would be weird for someone to copy paste an “about themselves” and not provide the link.
Infact, maybe just the link would be normal.
But further, when Kym talks about her credentials as a former teacher, she has not once used a copy + paste.
https://www.robindiangelo.com/about-me/
“Where do you think shes educating in a barn in Humboldt?
Where are the Riots? In Seattle … her backyard.”
I think she just didn’t use quotes in the initial reference.
The last part was clearly stating a 3rd person reference of another person.
I understood it to be her quoting from that woman’s bio.
Kym clearly neither you nor Lacey read the last sentence.
Or chose to ignore it.
Where do you think shes educating in a barn in Humboldt?
Where are the Riots? In Seattle … her backyard.
I was NOT posing as anyone else I was responding to Laceys comment that colleges aren’t pushing white hatred by presenting where they clearly are.
Lacey makes a false claim against me and you back her??
She educating
Her backyard
Also check the time stamp here
September 11, 2020 7:14 pm
Who are you talking to?
If it’s me I’m not a Dude. So you have that wrong too.
It’s her description of herself what’s not to believe?
Look at her book on Amazon or google her name… geez
Her book is
White Fragility
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I think This seems to clarify any confusion.
Now Look at your time stamp
September 11, 2020 11:22 pm
Hot Coffee, Claiming to be someone you are not on this website is grounds for banning. You can either withdraw the claim (I’ll delete the post for you at your request) Or if you are comfortable that you are you, do nothing, but if someone proves that isn’t you, then I’d have to ban you which would be sad.
If you really believe I would pose as someone else then delete it. I’ll leave the choice to you.
Another time stamp Kym
September 11, 2020 10:39 am
“pushing white hatred in colleges”
You sound like you’ve never been to a college.
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September 11, 2020 11:28 am
No I was busy running one of the most multi racial stores in SF, and reproducing art in a different medium for a Famous Mexican tile artist.
One of our best features in that store was between our employees we spoke 14 different languages, all our customers could be understood in their native language.
Funny thing…all our employees truly liked each other.
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Doesn’t it seem a little odd that I would say I had not gone to college and then in the same thread pretend to be someone who has.
I did say I had access to college and it’s resources…. in a different post.
Where do I go to get my reputation back Kym and Lacey? What if you did this to a black person? That would be different wouldn’t it?
No one did this to you, HC. You did it by not clearly explaining why you were posting the bio.
I fully believe you did not intend to claim to be her. But the reason for posting this long rambling bio is unclear and it certainly appeared to be claiming to be that person. You last sentence does not clear anything up for me.
Posting the bio was clearly a response to Lacey asking me to show how colleges teach white hate.
I guess you refer to yourself as “her” and “She” then, but I don’t.
I provided enough time stamps to show the ridiculousness of the claim Lacey made. I also explained clearly as soon as the claim was made right below her claim.
Including suggested she go to amazon and look at HER ( not my ) book.
If I had it to do over again I would be sure not to forget to put the quotation marks, but tell me no one else ever does. However on its face it’s ludicrous that I would pretend to be someone all of my posts disagree with.
Instead of making allegations Lacey could have asked if it was my bio. if she/ he didn’t know.
Your bias is showing Kym, and I’ve always considered you to be fair.
I never made the claim Lacey, made the claim.
You bought into it. I suspect she/he is getting plenty of enjoyment out of your response.
She/He will be so distressed when finding out that what goes around , comes around but will just declare it racist..
When reading your post, I came to the conclusion without having seen Lacey’s comment that you were claiming to be that person. So did several other commenters.
For myself, I sometimes get defensive when folks tell me they understood something I wrote differently than I intended it. But generally given a little time, I often find the fault was with the writer. To be honest, HC, even with your explanation, I can’t understand what point you were trying to make if you weren’t trying to say that you were Robin. I know you as a commenter though and I believe you didn’t intend to do so.
Whats fair and equal? If someone is better at something and outcompetes you, don’t they have an advantage? If I am smarter than you, don’t I have an advantage? If I am stronger, faster, and more athletic, don’t I have an advantage? People step on each other all the time. If you have a better job, earn more money, come from a good family, have great friends, and an awesome support system, don’t you have an advantage? Aren’t we all striving for an edge or an advantage? Like I said, if I am not going out and taking lives or dignity, whats wrong? There are no laws that single out any race, so what are we supposed to do? Force people to be equal? Have the government take over all jobs and pay everyone the same amount of money and redistribute the wealth and property to make everyone equal? Cause then the people in government who did the reshaping are superior to you and not equal. What happens if the same people who outcompeted everyone before, outcompete everyone again? Do we keep hitting the reset button? Are we prepared to completely reshape our country based on giving someone a fair share? I don’t know what a fair share is, can you please tell me what you have defined as everyone getting a “fair share?” I think we should define what a fair share is before we start pushing towards something that is presently undefined. If the shoe was on the other foot, do you think other people would willingly give up their privileges to help you? Obviously helping someone who is being treated like crap right in front of you is the right thing to do, but in the name of the “equality” that so many people seem to be seeking, they want to redesign society for the betterment of themselves. Isn’t that what the founders of every country has ever done? Shape the country for themselves? Mexicans have more privilege in Mexico than I do. Japanese have more privilege in Japan than I do. Ghanians have more privilege in Ghana than I do. Its how the world works. Why do liberals always discount human nature? Someone is going to push to be better than you, if they succeed, they will use their newly bolstered power to consolidate and gain more power. Then if they have enough power and influence, they reshape whatever place, system, or organization they are apart of to their own advantage. Its been that way for thousands of years, what is your plan to remedy human nature?
Society will never be equal , Lacey, and that is the problem with your upbringing, and education.
You’ve been taught to focus on the aspects of human nature that are never going to change, and Therein lies the problem.
You have been indoctrinated into a cult of socialized utopian Group think.
We continue to buy into the lie, the big lie, that society is capable of perfection.
The destruction of the family unit in every culture is the downfall of society. Hollywood and the media are pushing the most disgusting aberrations as normal, and if you think for one minute that is progressive, consider yourself “indoctrinated”.
So instead of trying to be a better person and make the world a nicer place for everyone, you are just going to accept that things are shitty and shrug? I am not saying we are capable of perfection, but we can damn well do better that we are right now. Just because we aren’t perfect don’t mean we can’t try to do better.
And I don’t know what this nonsense about the family unit is, that wasn’t a part of the discussion at all. You don’t know me, so don’t go making assumptions about my upbringing and education.
Actually denial of reality is not a good basis for anyone’s ideas but especially dangerous for the self righteous as they assume that the problems they create are due to others. And that never fixes anything.
Look in the mirror Guest!
Follow the comment line to see who is responding to whom
My bad, sorry!
There is nothing civil or right about your resurgence!
Just Orwell speak and gaslighting.
The people in this article have every right to speak their mind and I have every right to see things logically and not run my life on other peoples feelings, although I will do my best to be considerate of them as I would with children who don’t yet have adult rational.
When any one of the several black people I talk to regularly and have known for many years implies I’m racist I take a closer look at myself.
Bigfoot, boy are you sheltered! Racism is rampant in Humboldt County and happens on the daily. Just recently in a neighborhood near you the cops were called on a mixed family for the crime of having a BBQ in their own, fenced, backyard for their 3 year old’s birthday…then there’s the time a client refused assistance from a Social Worker because her skin was the wrong color…oh yeah and the time the cops were called on a black IHSS worker for an invented crime that was never committed….shall I continue?
Black Lives Matter
Wow, none of those things happened. I was born and raised in humboldt and have never witnessed racism. I’ve witnessed tons of white people change their personalities and treat blacks better to prove their not racist (which blacks find offensive as hell). There are several black families in humboldt that have been here for a long long time, if you’ve been here for a long time you would know them, and know that they don’t believe humboldt is racist either.
Just because you as a white person, haven’t seen it or don’t recognize it, doesn’t mean it’s not there. I too was born and raised in Humboldt and saw quite a bit of racism before I moved away, it was one of the deciding factors to getting out. Why don’t you listen to the radio spots here in the article and believe them? Why do you claim it didn’t happen just because you never saw it? That’s some serious gaslighting. Yes, there are a few Black families, and the fact that there are only a few is proof of how hard it is to live surrounded by people who refuse to acknowledge their ingrained racism.
I have seen it from white, Indian and black people. Even here, even now , with comments like “It was about money not about human rights. You might want to read some college level history, not the middle school stuff.” That is denying and trivializing the hardship, fervor, repugnance and religious intensity of many Northern abolitionist, soldiers and their families felt over slavery. And to do it so you can continue to think that you sit on the absolute virtuous side of history. That’s pretty racist. And not a good representation of education being a virtue.
Ya know sometimes people just don’t like someone…not because of race but because of their behaviors and attitudes.
“…the fact that there are only a few [black families] is proof of how hard it is to live surrounded by people who refuse to acknowledge their ingrained racism.”
No it’s not. It reflects historical migration patterns.
I would say it is because they don’t like manual labor, plus if they wait long enough some bleeding heart will come up with a scheme to give them money. Hard working people earn respect by their actions. I have worked with many POC and never paid attention to their skin color, if they pulled their own weight. Respect and acceptance are not given, we are only as strong as our weakest link!
That’s ignorant racist stereotyping if I ever saw it. Few laborers worked harder than railroad section gangs, and across a large swath of the US they were almost entirely black.
Working in the woods tends not to attract people of urban tastes, whatever their race. There are plenty of Hispanics in woods work, fitting with their rural culture.
“have never witnessed racism”
Cuz yer white, Poindexter.
[EDIT: That is too far. I don’t have to host hate speech.]
That is the ugliest comment from you in a while.
It’s amazing the first things that come to your mind, in defense of your bigotry, after reading this article.
My truth dispels your lies. Truth hurts sometimes. Lies remain lies.
BLM wasn’t my topic it was the author’s. Ugly is on the author who is supported by RHBB.
That’s right, you don’t have to. And yet somehow you posted it anyway. Way to prove the point this article is making.
I am the host of this site and I edited it. Rod did not edit it.
Rod posted the truth. KK couldn’t handle it. It’s her site.
And you are a coward for hiding the truth.
You made a mistake.
There’s always 2 sides to every debate. Deleting the opposition doesn’t prove you’re correct.
BLM is much more that hate speech. It’s hate in action.
Who ever pulls the race card first is the racist. I think you should continue with actual facts and evidence to prove your point. First hand evidence, not hearsay.
Discussing race is not racist, refusing to accept that it’s a real thing that people experience is just delusional. There is no such thing as a race card. And the whole point of this radio thing is sharing actual facts and personal experiences from people around you. Just because you haven’t had it happen to you doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
Of course it exists. You are making comments based your perception of the commenters race right now. And people are experiencing it. Do You really mean to say that a discussion on race can only take place in the way you dictate it?
it’s a real thing that people experience , but not nearly as bad as years gone by.
2 Black men once ripped off my house however I have always realized that it was 2 black men and not black men collectively.
And I certainly don’t think their great grandchildren should be held responsible.
People are individuals.
i saw a article where a vegan family called the police on a neighbor who was barbquing meat, so are meat eaters being systemically oppressed by the vegans of this world? NONVEGANLIFES MATTER.
I felt good about the NFL’s “Standing Together” last night before the game. It may take professional sports to Make Lives Better.
Don’t be afraid to damage your white social capital,” she said. “You may feel discomfort but the moment where you step away from your privilege outweighs the discomfort you feel for that short time.”
Major word salad of victimhood right there. I almost supported the effort until that portion was served up.
Remember, the racism that Humboldt is supposedly rife with, doesn’t have to be statistically supported by any actual criminal victimization, it’s just if the “anonymous contributor” “feels” victimized.
Since I’ve seen some POC make EVERYTHING about race, Ms Gallier should have no problem finding content for her episodes.
The take away for me is that when the tag line for your motivation is “Death , anger and silence need to stop ” and the “most hurtful thing” was the “inaction of other(s)” but the scourge of blacks victimizing and murdering each other, and the mute response by fellow members of the black community is NOT addressed , the credibility of the battle cry is put in question.
And seriously , it’s not “racist” to be confused for someone else . I get confused for other unnatractive old [edit] all the time!
That’s WAY too much whine.
I ain’t got no room for cheese now.
You basically ruined the punch line Kym.
If a POC personally gave me that moniker I think get to use it, right ?
It’s funny. It’s stupid. It’s meaningless words.
Maybe my “privilege” keeps me from caring.
Or maybe I’m not a big baby looking for reasons to cry racism.
And they call themselves nigger, so?
I’m not clear on the rules I guess.
No slurs allowed. And I don’t allow folks to call anyone nigger or anyone cracker.
Fair enough .
Good work. The few rude and misinformed comments posted before mine show why the experiences of people of color in Humboldt need to be brought into the light. May we all learn to treat others with respect and kindness.
Not many of the comments have much to do with kindness or respect whether you want to call people racist or you want to defend yourself on being called racist.
My gut feeling is there is an over emphasis on examples that are not locally true. They are included to be divisive. It’s difficult for me to believe store owners would say, “we don’t serve your kind”. In Humboldt every sale counts. And does the law enforcement agencies keep records on race. Might be interesting to know those facts. My brown neighbor has been stealing fuel from my pickup. The local police said there’s nothing they can do about it. I gently approached my neighbor and asked him to stop saying I felt disrespected and taken advantage of like ALL Lives should Matter………………………….. and bought a locking gas cap. Sadly, my neighbor and I don’t get along. I would have felt better if he had approached me saying he needed help with vehicle fuel. I most likely would have given him some money. But now we are suspicious of each other. That doesn’t improve relations between different peoples. I gave his high school daughter and son a bag of apples and pears from my trees as an offering. The relationship has not gotten better.
Identity politics is toxic.
One day, maybe, we’ll learn to treat people as individuals and avoid the imposed lies of identity politics which only benifits those who lead and those who divide.
I hope the wailing and gnashing of teeth in the current political climate indicates this toxic idea is in its death throes.
I’m just curious.
Do you still think “boxhead” is as toxic as “nigger”, in regards to name calling?
Because I have found that to be an incredibly unexcusable idea of yours, frankly.
Why don’t you make us all a list that separates racial slurs into acceptable and unacceptable categories?
Nigger is universally known as derogatory coming from a white person. History made that true.
I’m not talking about inner city discussions amongst crews, I’m talking country boys calling blacks niggers, or not understanding the difference of the two.
Most people have never heard squarehead, nor would it be taken seriously by most as an insult. I find it to be a tragically laughable comparison.
If you don’t know this by now….
Nigger is no longer in our “woke” world racist. Your interpretation of the term is wrong.
The term is ‘squarehead’. Neither term is toxic only the reaction.
We often can’t control what the world throws at us, but we can control how we react to it.
I generally find that when I am sensitive to the areas that other people are sensitive in and yet, at the same time, tamp down my own sensitive reactions, then the world is better for everyone. So yes, for yourself, control how you react to the world. For others, be aware of things that rub them wrong.
I treat individuals how they want to be treated. I am polite and respectful of individual wishes. Groups are arbitrary constructs and perpetuating group think and group identity takes power from the individual. It creates a toxic, devisive environment of us versus them.
“I am polite and respectful”
You’re the guy who preached for days about your right to call women squaws and whores.
Ummm, no, I didn’t.
Really? You didn’ pile on about how unkind a commenter was just a day or so ago? Rollin wasn’t it? Not TRB who started the insults
So if I punch you in the face, and it hurts you, you’re the problem. Your pain is just a toxic reaction. Right?
Give it a shot and see what happens.
You need to work on your analogy. You are an individual acting as an individual. I am an individual reacting as an individual. Your actions are not representative of your “group” nor is my reaction.
The punch is fine, according to your “logic.” It’s the pain you choose to feel afterward that is the problem, because choosing to feel pain after you have been punched is toxic and divisive. Right?
Ever heard that old adage about sticks and stones?
Your punch is the action of an individual, not a group. Same goes for my reaction.
Weak sauce, as usual.
So much for your flimsy claim that only reactions are “toxic.”
Weak sauce is right. Making personal remarks then taunting the reaction makes ullr’s point. Either it’s trolling or it’s a threat.
Remarks like: making racist attacks on others, (e.g., calling people the n-word), is not toxic. It’s fine.
Reactions like: feeling pain after you have been attacked is toxic, and divisive, and deleterious to everyone else.
The article is about people who have experienced pain after being targeted by racially motivated attacks.
Talk about trolling.
You’re good at missing the point. People should learn to be polite and respectful to one another.
When that doesn’t happen people’s feelings get hurt, but the actions of an individual are not representative of entire arbitrary group of people. To posit the actions of an individual towards another individual and conflate that as an attack against an entire group is toxic. It’s Hatfield and McCoy land.
You’re good at missing the point.
Did you read the article?
The author discussed the actions of individuals taken against other individuals.
She conflated nothing.
Did you?
“Racism is still happening and these experiences are extremely valid. We live in a beautiful, forested area with a cloud of hate over our head.”
No, you don’t live in area “…with a cloud of hate over our head.” Some people are assholes. Stop conflating the color of skin with the reasons why people are assholes.
Wow… that’s quite a stretch.
And you think assholes are too good to be racist?
Yeah, um… NO DICE.
So, 1 white country boy calling blacks niggers = ok.
2 whiteys calling blacks niggers = bad.
Interesting.
I don’t follow you at all.
He talks out the side of his mouth.
That’s why.
Be polite. Something you should learn.
Thank you very much.
You’re obfuscation is awesome.
You still use obfuscation incorrectly. You failure to understand is not from me trying to obfuscate.
So you think nigger is an appropriate term for blacks?
And the toxicity comes from their reaction?
Brian,
Do you think calling women Bitches and holes in rap music is toxic to women?
Yep
You missed the point entirely.
And by the way, the “rap industry” does not represent black people.
There’s a little homework for you.
I asked a question did I mention black people in the question?
There are white rappers too.
That being said I haven’t heard of many Hispanic rappers, Asians nope.
There is what people say and then there is what you imagine they mean.
I’ll just blow off you homework comment
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No TRB, the toxicity is from your ignorance of the changing times and definitions.
If the word as as toxic at you claim, it would not be used so freely by the very people who claim it is toxic. No the complaint is not the word but the fear and anger over the history of its use. That some people felt free to insult by race without consequences. Apparently, rather than changing that basis so no one need have those fears, you prefer to expand it to other races. Unfortunately than only works to ensure the history continues because to you equality seems mean equal hate. Not reducing hate.
Once I sat behind a pair of black women talking about the ugliness of the lack of color in a white man they had just waited on and how disgusting people without color looked. When one glanced back and was surprised to me sitting there, they assured me I had “good color.” We had a short discussion about extremes in human coloring ( the man they had been talking did not seem THAT white to me)but it was a sea change moment for me when I realized that humans in general were motivated by emotional reactions, even when they beleved that reaction to be dangerous or immoral. And that the major difference between the way the way these black women thought and the way I did was that I was not worried that they find whiteness disgusting while they were really upset that I heard them say what they really thought. They feared the consequences of their words- which they should have by their own standards- while I did not. But that did not mean I had never had consequences. While I had known that race meant there could be a problem, I hadn’t believed it would always be a problem. But you and yours have convinced me that there will inevitably be problems and there is no solution because it is never enough. It is better not have any positive expectations or waste any effort.
The term “nigger” lost all its meaning when black people started calling other black people that as a term of endearment. A racial slur is a racial slur no matter who says it, if thats not the case, it has lost a lot of its supposed teeth. Especially when its used as lyrics in rap songs and little highschool students of all races are running around singing lyrics to those songs and dropping N bombs like nothing. No, a racial slur that only depends on who says it is no longer a racial slur. Especially when white little baby gangsters call each other “nigger.” Sorry it is now a term of endearment, if you are a “nigger” you are cool man.
If you see toxicity everytime you see a “black” headline, perhaps their voice isn’t the problem, and what you need to identify is yourself as imperfect.
https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-uscellular-us-revc&source=android-browser&sxsrf=ALeKk034dcUuNyWWn1mY0r2qDTfqqY-KbA%3A1599837960577&ei=CJdbX5jRIvCV0PEPs7ewoAw&q=black+fatherless+home+myth
It’s not a “black” problem. It’s a cultural problem and the issues is manifest across all socioeconomic groups.
You and people like you have certainly made it toxic. No room for people of good will.
Truth is not welcome when it destroys a narrative.
Lies are toxic no matter how congenial. Truth is sometimes toxic. What’s the criteria to tell one from the other?
Brian,
if your not black what makes you their spokesperson, by your standards doesn’t that show your white privilege, that you dare speak for them instead of letting them speak for themselves.
Uh oh. Media focus on minorities.
Let’s watch the white voices via comments now blow minorities off into an invented equality rant.
Shame on you Kym, this is a hard white community and your commentors will make that clear.Well Brian what do you say to the Black people I know that want to live in a world of equality NOT a world that sees them as perpetual victims.
You only have equality when all people are EQUAL
Trying to destroy someone else’s equality doesn’t make you more equal.
Simple arithmetic tells you when you subtract it doesn’t add to.
I don’t buy your plan that if you just hate yourself and feel guilty enough it helps someone else.
Lifting people up, not pulling other people down is a better more helpful goal.
I know people of every race that could use a loving, helping hand, a hug or a smile.
And Thank you Kym for keeping us informed some folks will whine about anything.
Shame on you Brian, with all Kym has done for the community through these fires you find something to put her down about….sad!
Awww, people disagree with our self-appointed “expert” on race relations. Wanna hanky?
Kym didn’t edit my comment.
I put a mistaken hypertext code in, it came out as a scratch. It was supposed to be “sarcasm” , but I finished the coding like a dummy.
No thanks on the hanky, but do keep trying to be better.
There seems to be systemic racism of blacks by blacks as well as other races. Lately there has been terrible racism against conservative blacks by liberal blacks. Black “protesters” burning and looting of businesses owned by blacks, comments made about black people who don’t vote a certain way saying they aren’t really black, and the huge percentage of black abortions. They choose to endorse the idea that Floyd and other thugs are martyrs are worthy of sainthood.
Here’s my belief. All black lives, born and unborn matter. Black Lives Matter doesn’t matter because they don’t believe all black lives matter, only the ones of like mind (although the individual lives of the group matter). Furthermore, I believe that all lives of all races, born and unborn, liberal or conservative, religious or agnostic/atheist, heterosexual or LGBTQ are created equal by God. They all matter equally.
It is unfortunate to see the singling out of certain groups, or in this case just parts of a group of people. It immediately turns my stomach. It also shifts my attitude toward such groups and not in a positive direction. At least it appears these individuals are proclaiming their message in a legal and peaceful manner, which earns my respect. I pray it remains that way.
So you might want to look up what systemic racism actually is. It’s not possible for Black people to implement systemic racism because of the very definition of the thing. Also look at the Black Lives mission statement before talking about what they believe and don’t believe.
And by calling people ‘thugs’ you just lost all your moral high ground and slipped back into racist territory. Try again.
Yes. You’re right. Black people can not, according to the current thinking, create systematic racism because the victims of it are defined as black. “Johnson defined systemic racism, also called structural racism or institutional racism, as “systems and structures that have procedures or processes that disadvantages African Americans.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/15/systemic-racism-what-does-mean/5343549002/ Why would any reasonable non-black person ever support eliminating “systematic racism” when they are defined to be guilty of it no matter what they do or don’t do? Of course the solution to such poor thinking for those doing the thinking is the BLM action of “No Peace until Justice (NPUJ)” where justice is defined as no bad consequences based on race of the perpetrators. Yeah, like that’s going to ever find any peace.
Yes, any person can be biased prejudiced, but only white people can truly be racist and systemic racism is a white system. I support getting rid of systemic injustice because I support actual equality, not just the lip service to it that we currently exercise.
Why would any reasonable person of any color support keeping a system that harms people? If I have to hurt someone else to get ahead in life, I will choose not to do that, I don’t need to get ahead that badly. I believe I can live my life better in a truly equal society. Keeping systemic racism because you don’t like that you are a part of it doesn’t make any sense.
“only white people can be racist”!!!!
What the fuck! THAT STATMENT IS RACIST!
We are all EQUAL that means we are ALL capable of the same things. If you say only one group is capable of this, that, or the other…..you’re a fucking racist.
There is enough division in America right now, without all this woke bullshit dividing people more. Humboldt county is an overwhelmingly inclusive, and non-racist place….you will not convince me otherwise….I’ve been here all my life, along with my friends who happen to be people of color, and none of us are buying the idea that Humboldt is racist.
We’re all equal….anything else IS RACIST …fucking simple.
No one said (except you) that the current system had to be supported but you need to create a better system, not just a different colored bad system. Therefore yes, you need to make sure that white people benefit from changes too. Frankly, so far the goal seems to be to destroy without any improvement in mind. And that never leads to any good place.
Only white people can be racist? Everyone can be racist. Damn your guilt is incredible, I feel really sorry for you, you would change the color of your skin if you could huh? Try being proud of your heritage.
I am white and never contemplated being proud of it! I am proud of who I am though, which has literally nothing to do with skin color, especially since no one has any control over what color they are. I agree that anyone could be racist, but are you saying you should be proud to be white or just your heritage in general?
I was saying it more in the context of be proud of your heritage and where you came from, because without it you won’t be who you are.
But…. Now that I have reread everything and thought more about it, of course you should be proud to be white too. Apparently we have all this privilege that sets us apart from everyone else and is going to give us a better leg up on the competition in this world. I never knew about it or really experienced it, but thats awesome. Now that I am fully aware of my privileged white ass, yes be proud to be white. Its awesome, why wouldn’t someone be proud to be privileged? Now that I am aware of my white privilege I plan on using it to my every advantage to get ahead of everybody else. Especially the other white people who are so wrapped up in this laughable guilt thing.
So yes, be proud to be white, we are given innumerable privileges compared to everyone else, even though there is not one law on the books that says so. I have never been so pumped to be the color I am, thank all of you for making me aware of this great opportunity that I can take advantage of. Thank you all for making me aware that we need to pay attention to the color of peoples’ skin more than anything else, that that is our most important attribute.
I digress, that was fun, if you would like to ask someone about having true privilege though, talk to the owner of this site, Kym is more privileged than anybody else on this forum and is the beneficiary of true discrimination. I wonder, since she has more privilege than anybody else in this time, will she give it up to be equal? Or will she just guffaw at that statement? Or will she even post this?
I don’t know if I would call it discrimination but I sure get picked on a lot from folks who think their best contribution to the world is complaining about how others should do things better.
Yes you are the beneficiary of true discrimination that is happening right now. You have a business that has been bolstered by discrimination by your local and state governments. I am not talking about the legal vs illegal grower paradigm, but more about how your business has been declared essential just to save a failing legalization scheme, while other people who are truly essential, i.e. teachers, are not given the same title. You’re business is being bolstered by laws created by the government to uplift you while keeping others down, doesn’t matter what guise it is under, pandemic or not, that is the definition of true discrimination. What makes your business, providing marijuana, any different than anybody else providing something? Your business is open to provide pot, but my buddy can’t open his bar. While so many of us are sinking, because the government is telling us we can’t work and can’t do anything, you are given a pass.
Every single person knows that a pot grower is not essential. A teacher is not essential but a stupid pot grower(don’t get your tail in a tizzy, not calling you stupid, calling the profession compared to the teaching profession stupid, I’m a stupid pot grower too) is? You are the beneficiary of true discrimination, across all boards, to bolster an industry that would, should fail, given the current economic and natural circumstances, but your industry is being bolstered by government interference that keeps other people down and becoming poor while you are allowed a chance to succeed and flourish. You are also white, so is that white privilege? Maybe you should give the business you worked so hard for, but is now benefitting from discrimination, to a black person to prove you are woke and not a racist? You are in a perfect place to practice what you preach.
Nope, I am not guilty. Guilt implies fault and it’s not my fault history has taken the path that it has. I am however, rather embarrassed that we are will having the same basic issues we were having 60 years ago, that we haven’t evolved morally as a people.
There is no reason for me to be proud of my heritage, I didn’t shape it. And I am certainly not proud of the willfull ignorance displayed by my fellow white people here in this comment thread. If I am going to be proud of anything, it will be things that I made and did, not things some asshole 100 years ago did. And isn’t pride technically a sin?
We are not your fellow white people.
We are tribal by nature, and community, regional, then all the other labels have been created by those seeking a platform to justify an extraction of revenue at every level.
Lacey, you’d better serve humanity by looking into corporate personhood and how much influence the corporate office has over every aspect of your life.
You are blind by your intention to correct a problem that has no solution.
The biological fundamentals of humans have been shaped over millenia, please understand that your heart might be in the right place, but the real monkey on all of our backs is a government that seeks to grow power by making it difficult to be independent of its machinations.
We are all parents, grandparents, sons, daughters, aunts, uncles, cousins…yet we are free go choose who we want to interact with.
We cant always choose out families, but we do have choice.
Your opinion is yours, and you are free to walk your talk, just don’t expect anyone to play along with you.
Read a little, well, more than a little into tax exempt foundations, and how real power peddles influence and change.
There is a good lyric from a Michael Frante song…
“It’s not WHO you love, but DO you love ”
Good luck with changing behavior. You might think about getting some of that grant money for special interest projects.
but only white people can truly be racist
I have to share that with my black friends they will be rolling on the floor laughing!
Your own words Robin: “Racism is a white problem. It was constructed and created by white people and the ultimate responsibility lies with white people. For too long we’ve looked at it as if it were someone else’s problem, as if it was created in a vacuum. I want to push against that narrative.”
And this is why I am pretty sure you are just using her name.
You can pretend if you want….willful lies and ignorance is deliberately continuing with a falsehood that has clearly been shown not to be true.
My best guess …. you didn’t want Robin’s book exposed.
Right Dude?
Your posts made it unclear. That’s not falsehood on my part. And I don’t know what you are on about here, why wouldn’t I want that book shared, y’all could do with a heavy dose of it right now.
Well Lacey if I was black and you knew it I think you would have said 4 little words ( is that your bio?)
But I don’t believe you were confused at all.
You can play your game….most people here have read enough of my posts to get it.
We are getting a heavy dose of it ( HER book), and if you look at the posts very few are buying it.
And even more don’t intend to pay a fortune to send their kids to college for more of it especially in the NW.
Systemic racism existed before the BLM movement became popular. In fact it has been around for a long time! There is a problem through out the whole world with racism and most of it is from white people. But it is absolutely ridiculous to say that only white people can be racist. Anyone can be racist about another race, it is being prejudiced. The people that are closed minded or ignorant and do not get that Black Lives Matter, does not mean that all lives do not matter. It means that people need to acknowledge that black lives are not valued as much and they are often not treated equally or have equal access to things like employment, education, and they are disproportionately incarcerated etc. There are too many examples of systemic racism in our society! Black people are not treated as equals in our society that is why we created things like affirmative action. As someone who is white and have friends of different colors and from different cultures, I have never treated anyone differently based on their skin color. I believe in equality for all!! Therefore, even though I was born with white privilege because I am white, I do not feel any guilt because I stand up for equality for all including women and the LGBTQ community. Historically women have been horribly treated and that has been ignored, that is why people so strongly supported the Me Too Movement.
I have lived all over the US and honestly I hate to say it but Humboldt is the most Good Old Boy racist place I have ever lived. When I moved here I was surprised at what some of my friends told me has happened to them here. I have a friend who’s teen son was jumped on the street while he was walking home and seriously beaten up while having racial slurs yelled at him. She also said that she felt like she was not treated equally at our workplace, which surprised me but I did not question it just because I did not see it. Back East to be called a red neck is an insult and is often said to racists, when I moved here there was a red neck picnic basket for sale at a popular Coffee Shop. People are proud to be called a red neck, so I decided they must be saying I’m a hick not I’m a racist, lol!!
Basically many of us our sick of the racism and inequality in our world. We are also really sick of police brutality! The police of all people should not be racist and should be required to be educated on the subject, as they are in a position of power over others. Police should definitely not be investigating or policing themselves, as Kym said what a complete joke!!!
Definitions of words are super important, that’s why I prefaced my statement with saying that anyone can be prejudiced. Prejudice is different than racism, though they often look the same in practice, racism is systemic. But otherwise I second all the rest Sunshine 🙂
Words evolve naturally. But when they are changed in the service of an agenda, they are weaponized dishonestly.
She knows that.
I have read it. It is ideological BS start to finish. They are sponsored by convicted terrorists. It is likely the most anti American group currently claiming to be pro America. I don’t want anything to do with their version of racist America. BLM is bad for America in every way
George Floyd was neither a martyr or a thug. He was a strung-out, emotionally unstable individual who died from some combination of excessive, unprofessional use of force by a police officer and toxicity-induced reactions within his own system. The pending criminal case will address those issues, although it seems difficult to see how the excessive force issue could be mitigated by any of the known circumstances.
Your canned talking point about blacks and abortion has no more merit than any other. Blacks have been slowly increasing as a portion of the US population since 1930, so the “black genocide by abortion” argument is bunk. The big problem among blacks is providing a good environment for their children who are born. The last thing the black population needs is to increase the number of children raised by single mothers who are either unable or unwilling to provide for them and help them find a good life path.
It’s interesting if you look at hate crime statistics Nationwide. I know these aren’t reliable statistics seeing as how they are compiled by A system that is systematically racist to begin with. According to the FBI, there was just over 7,000 hate crimes committed in 2019. Thats 7000 out of a population of over 320 million… Furthermore the breakdown of people that committed a hate crime by race. 53% of crimes were committed by white Americans, 24% committed by black Americans the rest were unknown.
https://www.justice.gov/hatecrimes/hate-crime-statistics
Wait a minute. If black Americans are less than 15% of the population but commit 24% of hate crimes, what does that mean with regard to who are the real racists?
Hey, I like stars, by the way you sound really racist!! It is so obvious that white people are the most racist, just accept it and if you are white you have white privilege! If you do not have a reason to feel guilty about your white privilege then great! However, based on your comment maybe you are feeling it a little bit!
I know a bit about “hate crimes”.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/hate-crime-hoaxes-are-more-common-than-you-think-11561503352
It sounds like you have swallowed the blue pill sunshine! Maybe change your name to gloom! White people are the most racist, just accept it. HAHAHA. Do you have any examples? I have plenty of examples of other groups of people being racist. Sounds like you are brainwashed. Do you have any data or way to back up your statements? Or are they just little emotions? Everybody is trying to get a leg up on everyone around the world.
Go travel. Go see how other places work and tick. It will make you realize, at the very least, that everyone is out for themselves, including me. I will take every single advantage afforded to me and capitalize on it, its called survival, its called human nature.
All anybody can control is themselves, all anybody should try to control is their own self. Treat every other person with dignity, help your neighbor when they ask, if a stranger comes up to you out of the cold and asks for your coat, give them your shirt too. Most of all, don’t take a single lick of crap from anyone, respect is earned, not given. If you do those things and treat all people like the previous few sentences suggest, racism wouldn’t be an issue.
Oh, and a big thing, quit bringing up the color of peoples’ skin, it really doesn’t matter. It really doesn’t. That only furthers a divide that should’ve never been there in the first place, how does anyone expect racism to end if the color of peoples’ skin is the first and foremost?
Well look into statistics from different sources on hate crimes and you will figure it out! I also said that anyone can be racist by the way. I have also lived all over this country and traveled extensively including to Europe, Mexico, and Jamaica for extended periods of time. I totally agree that we should not focus on skin color, but I can bring it up whenever I want, sorry!!! In this case I have brought it up as it is relevant to this discussion and important for those that are racist to understand that we should be treated equally regardless of our differences. Your comment to me suggested that I should change my name to gloom, well I am feeling pretty good and positive, so no thanks I think I will keep it!! Have a wonderful day!
The BLM movement is too quick to blame the color of ones skin for the result of a situation. Often it’s not occurring due to that at all, guess if your neighbor is an asshole and ya call them on it they have to be white if your white or it’s wrong……., people need to view the actions that led up to the incidents and quit hiding behind thier skin color and a hype based movement.
“53% of crimes were committed by white Americans, 24% committed by black Americans the rest were unknown.”
You left out the fact that whites make up 76% of the population and blacks make up 13% of the population. Initially it looks like whites commit twice the amount of hate crimes, until you consider that whites are 4 times the population.
Rollin, that was kind of the point… not to mention there is only 7,000 cases reported in a country with a population of over 320 million..
That’s because the same crime defined as hate crime if done by a majority identity is not a hate crime if done by a minority.
You mean if I call the cops on my white neighbors that are having a loud barbecue, that’s not racist, it’s just me being a dick?
Nevermind the inconvenient fact that the “supposed” reason, disclosed by the racist white woman. was not the fact that the family was black, but was because they were using a charcoal BBQ in an area not designated for charcoal grills. Of course everybody knows that “charcoal BBQ” is really a dog whistle for white supremacist. Charcoal is obviously just a hidden racial slur because everybody knows that charcoal is black. You may also notice via the article during the over two hour confrontation that happened between the lady and the man doing the barbecuing in the wrongly designated Zone, race was never mentioned…
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5af50125e4b00d7e4c18f741/amp
By my observation, racism tends to be a manifestation of more generalized dickness. We don’t know for a fact that Barbecue Becky was racist and wouldn’t have called the cops on whites barbecuing with charcoal, but the suspicion that race played in her attitude towards the barbecue is reasonable. The system ended up working the way it should. The police officer responded to Barbecue Becky’s call, assessed the situation, and essentially told Barbecue Becky to piss off. He had an “I can’t believe this shit” look on his face.
THC, I figured as much. Everything I’ve ever seen you write is logical. I just wanted to clarify because at first glance it appears that whites commit more hate crimes. And those numbers, as well as crime statistics by blacks, unarmed shootings by police of blacks etc. is endlessly manipulated by liberals.
Well, to take a page from the book of racial guilting, wah-wah-wah. Media has beaten its one sided race drum over the pandemic, illegal immigration, social justice, economic inequality, Trump, ad nauseam, thinking to fix humanity’s problems and prove themselves superior in the process. But in the end, having increased violence and laid enough guilt to bury people who have done nothing wrong, having taken resources away from those who want a good, crime free life to glamorize criminals and violent drug addicts as examples of racial bias, all that can be done is to avoid worrying whether there is truth to it. Even thinking about it has become toxic. Like any mountain of manure, it will only become useful after it rots in its own steam and settles to become compost. Then something useful might grow.
“Racism is still happening and these experiences are extremely valid. We live in a beautiful, forested area with a cloud of hate over our head.”
Yes there is a cloud of hate. It is being perpetuated by racists like you Sabina, that incessantly engage in racism by branding people as racists because of the color of their skin, then having the audacity to tell them that they are the ones who are the racists. It’s Orwellian. Telling a group of people that they are privileged Sabina, because of the color of their skin, is also racist. You are a racist.
To add insult to injury you are advocating a political group of self-avowed Marxists, an ideology responsible for the death of a 100 million and counting.
Maybe you can get Jussie Smollett on your show to recount the terrible events of that cold Chicago night. Or is not believing Jussie also racist?
http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/
I love the article and I’m thankful to hear about Gallier’s work. Without Kym posting this, I would’ve never known about her project. So thank you Kym!
My black family has been in Humboldt since the 60’s and we’ve become very good at being silent for the most part. The times any of us try to be honest about an issue of inequality in our community, we experience a similar response from people who just don’t want to hear it.
Every “race” of people deserve to be heard. America has a long history of violence against POC.
Black Lives Matter Movement is only one of the many movements to come. The more we resist acknowledging injustice here, the longer we’ll continue to be divided.
If we insist on seeing injustice by only color, then it guaranteed to be a long time being fixed. If ever. Changing the only color of victims means victims keep piling up even if successful. Eliminating race as a criteria for justice is the only way to do it. So let me know when you are willing to stand against injustice for everyone.
Refusing to hear it in the first place is the issue.
You listening yourself? What do you hear? That I want to be assured your quest includes me? That is listening but getting nothing in response.
Isn’t everyone here discussing it because they hear it.
I’m curious, how has the physical safety of your family in Humboldt been for the past 50+ years, compared with the more urban environment in which so many blacks live? I’m talking about safety from actual violence, not perceived slights and indignities or a culturally unsatisfying environment.
Of course I can’t speak for Ma… but I can add that an Afro-American man was burnt out of a home in Alderpoint in the 1980’s, and similarly, an Afro-American man was burnt out of the Briceland School in the early 1970’s(date?)–Mamie, of Mamie’s Fountain, was the source for this, third hand. There is a similar rumor associated with the Jerome Baker log cabin near Maple Hills burning down, but I have heard a few versions of who was living there at the time.
We’ve been threatened, called names, and ridiculed for for having a voice. As a child I vividly remember hating my own skin out of fear of what someone else wanted to do to me. In Humboldt.
Did you miss the part about actual violence? You know, robbery, rape, shootings, murder, getting caught by a stray bullet and that sort of thing.
I’ve been shot at in Humboldt. My experience doesn’t fit the narrative though. Funny thing is, I shot back, and my gun was a helluva lot bigger. But that was just a couple black dudes who came up from the bay and tried to rob my farm quite a few years ago. They thought 4 guys with pistols could take a farm, until my Benelli M4 started barkin. Too bad I didn’t end them right there, just took quite a bit of mileage off of that Audi, which, btw, I was very surprised could make it up that road. Anyway, they unfortunately went and robbed my neighbor down the road, he is an old white guy though, so it was totally ok, just reparations paid. Damn google maps, that site has caused more problems for growers than anything else.
Can you admit that at least some of those feelings were generated by seeing yourself as different? People tend to congregate in group for security- they assume that if someone looks like they do, they will be safer. In fact people find such security in such groupings they will take abuse from their own group that is worse than any outsiders ever offered just to keep that sense of security.
Anyone who has been in close association with different groups and their jockeying for position surely has experienced such stress. It’s just in Humboldt Co, there is little chance for a white person to mix with other groups. I have lived in areas in which I was a minority as a white woman and have received actual physical violence from total strangers without previous interaction simply because I stuck out as an easy mark in a totally black community. Why I was picked I can’t be sure but racial insults accompanied the violence and it was in a public place. It is a human, not racial, characteristic for bullies to chose victims based on perceived vulnerabilities. Which is why assigning such simple ideas as one group must be innocent and another guilty based on race rather than personal actions and responsibilities will not fix anything short of genocide. But it hard to sort out personal from group dynamics and most people are offended if you even try. They want the easy fix when there is no easy fix.
It is apparent that financial insecurity cuts across all race lines. Race is a tool to divide people in a pursuit of resources. Those with the means, and those who desire a better standing without the will to achieve it on merit.
Stop exporting manufacturing and jobs overseas , to prevent the poor people of the world from being exploited by the mega rich.
Fuck the CCP.
Fuck the globalists who middle man the shit out of every conceivable transaction.
Fuck the rat race, cause you have been made a commodity regardless of your skin color.
That’s the undeniable truth that’s so hard to comprehend.
“Now back to Kim with the weather.”
Yes sir, good summary.
Ahhh, the “globalists” card.
A perfect way to ignore racism so you don’t have to get uncomfortable today, Sid.
I hope you’re right about the globalists Brian cause if your not they sure ain’t going to stick up for you like you stick up for them.
What’s your definition of “globalists”?
I’ve travelled around the world, and I’m a capitalist.
Do I fit the bill?
Or is Trump a globalist because he has businesses around the world?
Or is “globalist” a term for “things you don’t understand”?
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/globalist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World-system
It ain’t a card…..it’s where all the jobs, and middle class dreams went. It’s THE problem.
Although I don’t think it’s a conspiracy of the level of alien abuduction thinking, it is a defect to believe that comes from the fantasy that a society that takes in the good parts of diverse people doesn’t also take in the bad parts. And there are always, always bad parts that are not divisible. Globalist are not social idealists. Globalism is a commercial advantage to those who tout the good and are silent about the bad.
I remember one man who was “let go” from a job he had for 20 years when his employer laid off American workers and hired immigrants at half the wages. He never again had a comfortable income even though he went back to school for new skills. It should have never happened. It wasn’t his fault but the fault of the greed of the employer that aligned with the naivety of the public and the agenda of immigration rights organizations.
If you want to look at systematic, and unchecked consolidation of power and influence, then we can have an idea that the middle men are fleecing the people through a system that has been slowly been taken away from any meaningful checks and balances.
And here we are,
… fighting brush fires, literally and figuratively , of the mind , of the spirit, and the body, and now , our very communities. We are told that it is our fault, that gl.oval warming is because we are bad, parasitic, and has nothing to do with the government, and the corporation’s drive to privatize those profits while socializing those losses.
Is that a poor white man’s burden to carry?
We have been sold out, and it’s a psychological operation to get the human mind to fight itself because of the non stop stimulus that keeps battling these self inflicted hacks that say that we are not worth choosing better.
Commodification of people sucks. Thank you for pointing it out.
Do you consider that without white people Obama would not have been elected twice, or that many white people stood with MLK and a few died for it?
I voted for Obama’s hope…with the hope the racial division would finally become a thing of the past….silly me.
Without white people football and those good paying jobs would be gone yet these wealthy men are the biggest whiners.
Seems no one thinks about the white people who have contributed to black success.
In my life I’ve also had black people contribute to my success and well being and I truly love these people and believe them when they tell me they love me.
Personally I stand with Rodney King…can’t we all just get along.
It’s government over reach that’s hurting all of us not just people of color.
We don’t get what we vote for, they promise one thing and deliver something entirely different..So it’s in their best interest to keep us fighting among ourselves, that way we don’t think to hold them accountable.
I won’t vote for a color I’ll vote for someone who does what they promise.
I would only add that I would vote for someone who does what they promise only if it is what I want to see done. Unfortunately for some, this is exactly why Trump got elected, and may get re-elected. Reduced wars, peace in the middle east, good paying jobs for those that want them; all good things Trump has done or is trying to do.
Mr. Biden; has he even told us what he would do? Perhaps we should review his record. Not good.
Side note; Having worked with Rover, side by side, he has never used the “N” word in my presence. Furthermore, A squarehead is a term for Scandinavian sailors. Squareheads were some of the best deepwater sailors of all, and the term, while a racial term, was not meant in a disparaging way. Also, it was generally used by white people towards other white people; how can that be racist? Rude perhaps, but racist?
Your experience supporting Obama only to be severely disappointed sounds a lot like mine. Obama sold himself as a post-racial figure then started using the race card as a smokescreen to cover the administration’s lack of performance starting with the Trayvon Martin case, and it only got worse through 2016. I am convinced that Obama flogging race led to a backlash that got Trump elected, and the nexus of BLM and the 2020 Democratic campaign shows that they have learned absolutely nothing.
Your disappointment with racism not disappearing with Obama shows that you don’t really understand what racism actually is. Of course it’s not just going to disappear because we elected a single black guy in the whole of our nation’s history, he never sold himself as a post racial figure, there is no such thing as post-racial, that’s as much a nonsense phrase as race card. Racism is more that just not liking or trusting people because of the color of their skin, it’s a whole series of assumptions we make about the world and how it’s supposed to be.
Like your comment about football, that’s intensely racist, and yet you think you aren’t. I don’t understand how your brain can hold these two thoughts. Like, your whole premise here is that Black people should be thankful that white people give them money and that somehow proves that the white people aren’t racist. Sure, some white people have helped some black people become successful, but there would be a whole lot more successful black people who didn’t need white people to help them get there if systemic racism wasn’t a problem. And that you are trying to use this as an example of how grateful Black people should be and that they shouldn’t complain about racism because of the good white people is just gross.
If there is no such thing as post-racial, what exactly are you striving for?
I guess in your haste to label me racist you missed the part where I said Black people helped me.
Sorry Lacey but I don’t think Maya Angelou’s brother Bailey would live with my family for 10 minutes if we were racist let alone 7 months.
Also, Lacey I didn’t think Obama would change racism, I though black people would see how much white people had changed in that they voted for a black president, clearly many missed the point, including you.
As for football, A Jewish man hired me at the store I worked at and I appreciated the job and tried to make the store as successful as I could even though I’m not Jewish, perhaps football players of all races should do the same for football before most people get fed up and stop watching and they end up without a job..
And perhaps you should lay down your microscope looking for racism in every sentence and blowing it up to suit your desire to find it, then you might have time to look in the mirror and find the real racist.
Anyone from any racial group can be racist towards any other group. In-group preference is deep in the human condition, but it conflicts with the imperatives of modern civil society.
Embracing modern social and economic thought is not racism. Non-Western societies that have done so are thriving, arguably better than our own. Societies that stayed in the tribal mode are conflict-ridden, violent, and generally dysfunctional. Think about that next time you want to denigrate modern economic and social thought as “whiteness” or “racism.” The last thing this country needs is a return of tribalism based on historical grievances and bogus postmodernist philosophy.
Without white people….the North wouldn’t have won the war. No really, way back then, white people fought for the rights of blacks in the south…..it was called the Civil War….. Reparations paid.
End this divisive woke ass bullshit. We are all Americans, all equal, all lucky to be living in the greatest nation on earth. Sure there are still some ignorant people around, but systemic racism is a lie, and it’s dividing us…
Nope, the North fought the civil war so that the South wouldn’t have the large economic advantage of free slave labor, not because they believed in the equality of Black people. It took many many years after the civil war for Black people to get even a semblance of equality even in the North. It was about money not about human rights. You might want to read some college level history, not the middle school stuff.
And this is not the greatest nation on Earth, not by a long shot, you might wanna quit drinking the orange kool aid. We are clearly not all treated equally, and if you don’t see it, it’s only because you don’t want to.
How about the white men who created the NRA…, after the civil war, so blacks could arm themselves against the weaponized arm of the Democrat party?
YouR politics Is Bleeding thRough Your Narrative.
If, u think and believe in the left right paradigm, you are trapped , by design in your text book.
Yup. The person who left his small farm in Connecticut did Soto ensure the south did not have an “economic advantage” and it had nothing to do with a moral commitment. Do you you even believe that nonsense? No, we’re not all treated equally. You seem to think that college makes you right. It certainly made many bigots who were never exposed to differing ideas. Focusing on a piece and missing the big picture. https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/1854-william-lloyd-garrison-no-compromise-evil-slavery/
Are you a Russian not seeking to get Trump reelected?
The Russia card is every bit as lame as the race card.
Slavery made some southerners very rich, but it also stifled economic development in the south. The economy in the free states grew much more rapidly than that of the slave states. Plantation owners, who controlled a disproportionate amount of the south’s wealth, tended to not be entrepreneurial.
This is the greatest nation on earth. Check yourself. There are patriots who fought for this country only because it is the greatest nation on earth, if you don’t believe it is, you should use your white privilege to go to the nation that is greatest. Which is what nation by the way?
There is no ‘greatest’ nation. That’s a lie to keep us feeling good about ourselves, seriously. We are okay, it certainly could be worse here, but if I had a choice, I would like to live somewhere with actual healthcare and decent jobs that pay living wages and solid reproductive rights that aren’t constantly being threatened. But because I am poor and there is no such thing as a perfect place to live, I am here.
If it wasn’t for the USA and Russia you would be speaking German right now….and I don’t think Hitler was all that fond of blacks.
Sounds like you made poor choices too…!?
Like choosing the humanities instead of the sciences, or business administration /management, or computer programming ?
Sounds like nursing school might be your best option for am education.
The US Dept or Labortion has good information on which industries are hiring and which sectors are expected to see continued growth.
Or …..
Go marry someone who lives in one of those socialist countries, and get a green card, and then pay for your health care in the form of high taxes.
You cant move to another country and get free health care , because our country seems to love bringing in illegals and giving them free stuff, see if you can find that anywhere else in the world.
Your education has left you with little options for upward mobility that isn’t in education or government.
The product you are selling isn’t getting you the life you feel you deserve, maybe you could look at the consequences of free choice.
Kym might be able to use another staff writer.
Damn P..W..NAILED IT HARD!
Where are those places? You still never answered the question.
Yes Lacey and the white folks who marched with MLK just went for the fried chicken Right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWrfjUzYvPo
Watch, listen, and learn about the history of slavery and the abolitionist movement that took hold in the West before anywhere else. Slavery was the nexus of a profound moral conflict in this country.
What’s your idea of “history,” the 1619 project?
It’s not just conservatives who reject identity politics. Serious Marxists (not the cargo cult that has been the most prominent sector of the “left” for the past 50 or so years) also reject identity politics. It has been weaponized by the ruling class against the working class, and the “progressives” who embrace it are little more than toadies.
wsws.org/en/search.html?sectionId=&maxResults=100&phrase=1619&submit=Search
These days it’s so easy to get triggered by the media and personally I feel that we’re all getting played in one way or another by a larger agenda.
But, if we as a human race are going to evolve into just society we need to heal first. Part of the healing process is talking and sharing about the situations and past unresolved issues that have shaped how we view and interact with the world around us.
To be shamed for simply speaking truth is emotional oppression and until we can safely heal from America’s genocidal history and move forward with understanding and compassion, we’ll always be divided.
The bridge has been flooded and we can’t bury anymore pain. Offended light skinned brothers and sisters will hopefully put down the defensive position and simply listen without feeling attacked. We are all in this together. We’re just trying to heal to move forward.
Yes, being shamed for simply speaking truth is emotional oppression. Now, who constantly gets shamed in media for not bending a knee toward the racial narratives that the corporate media and the Democratic Party are trying to sell?
Yet who is it who does the constant shaming?
I’d be glad to listen as long as it’s not under threats of riots or violence.
Or being told to feel guilty for things I had no control over.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dhs-proposes-increase-biometric-collection-2-million-annually
Chip please?
First, let me thank you for developing this outlet where people can read the thoughts and intentions of others. A place where there can be some clarity to the very controversial topic of inequality, bigotry and racism in this country. A medium where individual change can occur.
My family consists of my African American daughter who is Pursuing her PhD in Neuro-Clinical Psychology, my Samoan wife who has been involved with patient care for nearly 40 years and myself a retired clinician who is of Germanic and Italian decent.
The make up and geographical history of our family has made many truths clear to us. My family and I have learned that racism is very real and unmistakable no matter what minority group you are in. We moved to Humboldt County after living in the over crowded city of Honolulu for the majority of, or in my daughters case the entirety of her life. In Hawaii there is more systemic racism against whites than blacks. It is very interesting that Hawaii, as part of the US is not unlike the mainland, in as much as racism was built into it’s very foundation. The differences are in the make up of the discriminated minority group. When a culture of racism has been built into the very foundation and fabric of a society it is very, very difficult to change that societies understanding of true equality. Unfortunately many are blind to these truths and refuse to broaden their understandings further. They hold dear the familiar but very slanted information that they have learned all of their lives, and not astute to the racial biases as part of the privileged majority. When considering the biases interwoven into the very foundation and structure of our society and the comfortable privilege that the majority enjoys, please try to look further into the, sometimes uncomfortable truths that may not be apparent to you, in order for true growth to occur.
Please keep in mind that positive change and national growth can only occur through an individuals acceptance of a real and compassionate truth, leading to a better understanding and path. Only positive change through the pursuit of truth and compassion will bring true change.
Maybe the Truth is that humans- every one of them- are competitive, self involved bundles of chemicals, competent at living or or not- and can’t count on their emotions as a judgement of anything else. Maybe admitting that is the truth can make them just a little more careful of what they perceive as The Truth and honor principle as a better standard than empathy. I do not need to suffer my house being burned down to fight the fire at my neighbors.
Marc,
Great comment.
One of those truths is that the majority of families are like yours and consist of mixed races or nationality’s .
In prison, the hatred and division is so bad that even people who are not racist, are forced to join racially divided groups just to survive.
If you woke warriors aren’t careful, all your accusations and hate will create that same paradigm thought society as a whole…..not good. You woke warriors are pawns, once the need for divisions, distraction, fracturing of our society so the Global Capitalist can dominate America is over….. they’ll forget about you, and all the promises they made you….your just a pawn of the current narrative….nothing more.
Global capitalism has already dominated this country, that’s why it’s in the mess it’s in currently. We aren’t creating any kind of paradigm, we are just peeling back the veneer so it’s more obvious.
But there was no “Global Capitalism” a thousand years ago while there was sizable amounts of conquest, slavery, executions, genocide attempts. Mayans were offering human sacrifices to feed the gods a thousand years ago, just as the ancient Greeks did 2000 years previously. If you are the same piece of biology as were those. You haven’t changed in essence. Only you have more recorded history that would inform if chosen to be read. The stories the Greeks wrote down allowed their ancestors to change their beliefs. Read more, theorize less.
Yep. Then vote Trump Lacey. Bring back the foundation of a healthy economy, give workers of all colors a good job at a fair wage, with rights and protections. And stop sending our dollars to support China’s Slave Wage System. It’s simple Lacey, Trump will support american middle class by tarriffing and decoupling our economy from China for American workers. We all know Joe Biden will just fuck us over more, he is a Global Capitalist Fool….and that’s what really matters, the “free trade” cash cow is bleeding America dry, and we have to get back to work in America. Not this “systemic racism” distractions jibberish….woke ass, brainwashed tools selling out their neighbors vote for Joe….
No. Trump hasn’t done any of that, and won’t. In the four years he has been in power, he’s crashed the economy just like all of his previous business ventures and put his family and friends in power everywhere, subverting the government process on all levels. He’s asked for interference in the election by foreign powers and gotten it. He downplayed the pandemic after dismissing the program that would have handled it efficiently, causing hundreds of thousands more deaths than we should have had and we are still in lockdown as a nation because of it. He’s a wanna be fascist dictator. He’s a pathological liar and a rapist as well. No. He doesn’t care about the little people like you and me, he only cares about himself and money. That’s not good leadership.
Boy, you sure are buried deep in the compost pile.
It’s whats called a college education these days.
“Weapons of mass instruction”
She is obviously unaware of critical listening or thinking.
This woman has been studying the answers to ” the test ” her whole schooled life.
She is a product of modern schooling, and millions just like her, who will seek to destruction of this republic because they have very little original thought process., and very little respect for the people who have made real sacrifices, the past 400 years.
When she can been taught to ignore certain aspects of history, she can be a female Xi Jinping, of the next woke ruling party on an island of Blm supporters
Spot Spot on!
Trump is a businessman first, and despite what you are pushing here, I believe finding well paying work and being able to afford health care is probably more in line with someone who wants American people employed by American business, creating goods and services for people. In a free market economy, we are free to manifest, albeit more challenging in California, a pursuit of happiness, powered by intelligent choices and strong discipline.
Your education has given you peanuts in exchange for dollars, and the more you can accept the gap between what you need, and what you’ve been trained to want, this is where choice is the individuals responsibility.
Look at your goal’s for yourself, and what you are going to do about all those expectations you have on others when you your own future is insecure.
This will not be remedied, unless you find a sympathetic donor to fund your grant writing and boutique clothing store or coffee shop.
Then watch as the corporate office squeezes you,…
It has very little to do with Race, and the sooner you get busy living, the sooner you will find that purpose that doesn’t drain your bank account.
Good luck in there
If you want to look at systematic, and unchecked consolidation of power and influence, then we can have an idea that the middle men are fleecing the people through a system that has been slowly been taken away from any meaningful checks and balances.
And here we are,
… fighting brush fires, literally and figuratively , of the mind , of the spirit, and the body.
We have been sold out, and it’s a psychological operation to get the human mind to fight itself because of the non stop stimulus that keeps battling these self inflicted hacks that say that we are not worth choosing better.
This is much less a race issue:, it’s asymmetrical warfare on working families from every background.
When we focus on a solution that adversely affects every other human trying to compete for a place , we are creating more future problems.
Sabina, sorry you have to read all this crap here. The trolls have taken over the comment sections on this blog. Thank you for doing this project. It’s difficult to cut through the density.
BTW, @Kym, the links aren’t here in the article.
I see the links, Lynn.
Sure, disagreeing with an ideology that you feel should be exempt from criticism is “trolling.”
How come only 2 of my comments posted Kym?
The one redeeming factor in all of this is I don’t listen to KSLG. That means I won’t hear any of the propaganda! In fact, I don’t listen to any local radio station! So let the spewing begin!
I’d like to point out that this is a racist thread. BLM is a racist ideal being promoted by the site manager.
If anyone seeks the truth without racism, you’ll need to research independently.
Sad, sad, sad.
So just my name gets deleted.
You are no RHBB, you’re a coward.
The ugly privilege of rich white ‘protesters’
By Post Editorial Board
Boy, are they awfully . . . pale for members of the “New Afrikan Black Panther Party”: We’re talking, of course, of the eight “comrades” arrested last week for rioting at a demo planned by the NABPP and its allied “Revolutionary Abolitionist Movement.”
Not just white, but, in several examples, highly privileged: Clara Kraebber, 20, is a wealthy Upper East Sider (with a second home in posh Litchfield County, Conn.) whose mom is an architect and dad a child psychiatrist who teaches at Columbia.
Elliot Rucka, 20, of Portland, Ore., is the son of a famed comic-book writer and best-selling author. Claire Severine, 27, seems to be a signed model and actress who has lived in Canada and Ireland. Etkar Surette, 27, summered in Austria as a child. Frank Fuhrmeister, 30, is a freelance art director who’s done work for Pepsi, Samsung and Glenlivet.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/09/the-ugly-privilege-of-rich-white-protesters/
Did you get that Lacey?
“Clara Kraebber, 20, is a wealthy Upper East Sider (with a second home in posh Litchfield County, Conn.) whose mom is an architect and dad a child psychiatrist who teaches at Columbia.”
one more time…. just for Lacey’s lack of comprehension
” dad a child psychiatrist who teaches at Columbia.”
good job Dad! You taught your poor little black protestor well. And how many other young adults ??
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/09/12/us/freedom-black-cooperative-toomsboro/index.html
Scott and Walters say they’ve gotten questions about why they want to create an all-Black city. Their response? It’s something that’s been done for generations….we (do) intend for it to be pro Black in every way”
Slippery slope.
If a group of black people want to set up an economically independent rural co-operative community, I’m all for it. Having a stake in a community is one factor leading to positive social outcomes. Better to be building something and taking responsibility than sitting around bitching about whitey. That’s actually a (gasp!) conservative solution.