A Voice for the Houseless: Not Entirely to Blame

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Raelee Childers, houseless and with a substance abuse problem, is writing a sometimes column for us. She says she hopes to open the hearts and minds of those that are so quick to judge a book by its cover. Comments will be monitored for civility towards the author as well as other commenters. Disagreements are fine. Personal attacks are not.

So, first I want to apologize that its taken me a while to write another piece. I was actually somewhat surprised to see so many comments from the first one I had written. And regardless of weather the comments where negative or positive I appreciate the input from others, because its the comments that will write the next one.

Now for the people that think I’m just writing some kind of “poor me op-ed”, not once have I asked or expected anyone to feel sorry for me. The only thing I have asked for was just for a little understanding from people in this so called community. And I know what a lot of you are saying about certain problems that are caused by some of the homeless people.

So I couldn’t agree with you more when you say you don’t have any patience for people that may steal from businesses, but did you ever stop to think that not everyone who is homeless are stealing from businesses. That there are people who have jobs and a place to live that contribute to the theft in this world.

For those that have said things about people defecating in public place, I am too not ok with this either, but let me remind you that there are more than just “tweakers” out there too. I’ve noticed that not one person had ever mention Heroin addicts, who are the majority of the people that are doing this act. So because I don’t do heroin I cant speak on their actions.

And finally, I completely empathize with you when you speak of the used syringes that both some ” tweakers ” and heroin users leave laying around anywhere they please. Or the ones that put there points in recycling that can get you kicked out of the recycling center because it is a major safety issue. But let me say that a lot of times when I am out recycling I have came across several dumpsters and garbage cans with used syringes in them with and without caps on them. Now at least 50% or more of those are more than likely not from a drug user but from people with Diabetes and the only I say this is because there insulin bottles are among those used needles.

There are good and bad in all levels of society. Not all of the homeless deserve to be treated like we’re complete scum just because people want to judge us for the actions of a few. Next time I will write more about why some of us are at the moment “houseless”. Thanks, Raelee Childers

Earlier Column: Insults Don’t Help

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Willie Caso-Mayhem
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7 years ago

?Thank you Raelee for your words. For me they were well taken.

Joe Dirt
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Joe Dirt
7 years ago

The homeless crisis is become a bigger issue as more corporations move overseas and to Mexico Ford Chevy Chrysler Harley-Davidson and a lot of other manufacturing still moving leaving thousands more people out of work they will soon become part of the population that nobody wants to see transience the big criminals are the politicians the too-big-to-fail banks corporate gangsters like the Koch brothers the industrial War Machine big Pharma and oil and they live in giant mansions they’ve been ruining the planets ecosystem for many years now and we’re going to blame the homeless people for how bad things are. You see them pushing the homeless down the road while Monsanto and the real criminals pollutes water that we drink and air that we breathe and poisons the people with cancer-causing chemicals but I guess we got to punish the transients because they are the ones we see

when the next economic crash happens
the illusion that paper money is wealth and that we can run the middle class on debt and student loans most of us might find ourselves in this situation in the best case scenario we figure out how to share and take care of each other and the planet we live upon

Central HumCo
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7 years ago
Reply to  Joe Dirt

Joe Dirt,

~Very well said. Thank you.

Janet Griffin
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Janet Griffin
7 years ago
Reply to  Joe Dirt

Here here we’ll done

Joe Dirt
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Joe Dirt
7 years ago
Reply to  Janet Griffin

Part of what is going to move the new shift into taking care of the people and the planet we live upon is talking about the situation were in every one of us is important even people with different points of view the biggest change starts from the bottom up sometime though I think we’re going to have to stand up hopefully with people like Greta Thornburg and some of the tribal leaders Chief arvol looking horse Chase iron eyes Alexandria Ocasio Cortez Tulsi gabbard and Bernie Sanders people with fundamental agenda for moving forward
If we don’t get people in our government looking out for the people the only thing left is Revolution

ernestine
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ernestine
7 years ago
Reply to  Joe Dirt

the middle class is awakening this January to having been robbed by the tax cut that was passed last year. the middle class is paying hundreds more on their taxes this year than they have in the past. And they’re really upset because they feel tricked by the Republicans that many of them trusted.

I certainly hope AOC and her crew can communicate to them that the 18,000 1%ers that got that tax cut do not supersede the 300 million Americans that need the 1% to pay their fair share.

Homelessness is a direct result of the tax cuts for the wealthy. And this latest one may push the middle class right out into the streets.

If you haven’t seen it already you should see “get me Rodger Stone”
It explains the “communication problem” that tricked the American public. Aka the gaslighting.

Guest
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7 years ago
Reply to  ernestine

Not apparently most middle class tax payers. It looks like about 1/3 of tax payers- mostly those living in high tax states will have some of their tax deductions capped if they had previously used them while 2/3rd- especially those not using so many tax deductions and credits- will still pay less than they would have under the old rules. Of course these limits affect richer people much more as Gov Cuomo of New York recently complained ( https://nypost.com/2019/02/04/cuomo-announces-income-tax-revenues-have-dropped-by-2-3b/ ) but they have more freedom to just leave their States.

Well the complaints are certainly an eagerly latched on schadenfreude for lefties who can’t bear to hear complaints about the tax increases they create but think it’s just great if Trump can be blamed for doing much less damage.

Central HumCo
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7 years ago
Reply to  Guest

ernestine and Guest,

~come out of her my friends. Out of Babylon, the Matrix (the Mother of all tricks), the Wonderful Colorful World of Oz, the box, the invisible chains of bondage. As the @System@ is crumbling and collapsing, don’t hang on. Let go!

All the king’s horses and all the king’s men . . .

When someone speaks of taxes and references fiction as a back-up, i have to scratch my head and wonder . . .

The Internal Rape Scam (IRS), has Nothing to do with people on the land. Taxation is theft, pure and simple.

Joe Dirt
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Joe Dirt
7 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

There should be extreme weather shelter in southern Humboldt tonight try to stay dry and warm and alive

tired of idiots
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tired of idiots
7 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

and so is Socialism. Theft.

Joe Dirt
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Joe Dirt
7 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

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ernestine
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ernestine
7 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Well tired. I’m tired of t the long drive toward fascism. The interconnection of Corporate business and government is the def of fascism. Anne’s I don’t want that

Lost Croat Outburst
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Lost Croat Outburst
7 years ago
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Last I saw, State and local income taxes will no longer be deductible on Federal taxes as they have been for so long.

Over 3 trillion dollars was added to the National Debt by the Republicans and their Republican President so the super rich could get even richer while the hoi polloi was tossed p-nuts. The deficit will balloon for decades taking away money that could be spent on infrastructure and the employment of the teeming masses.

Agent Orange and the Republicans have pulled a massive “sting” on America.

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7 years ago
Reply to  Guest

About 85% of the tax cuts went to the rich. I don’t want to pay their taxes, only my own.

shak
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shak
7 years ago
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I read some of those articles that say the middle class save $40.00 but the rich save lots more.
Here’s a calculator.
The more you make, the more you save.
Make more, save more.
How to make more? Reinvest in your company, in your employees.
Those who don’t will fold. Those ones end up making less in the long run. That doesn’t mean that the tax favors one over another or that it screws one but not another.

Calculator. Begin with an easy one, like, say !0% of $1,000.00 equals…
then do 10% of $1, 000,000.00 equals.
If the tax cut is the same percent across the board, the rich will save more because they made more to begin with. The smart ones will reinvest in their employees and company.

https://www.dollartimes.com/calculate/percentage/10.0

THC
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THC
7 years ago
Reply to  ernestine

And what exactly is your idea of fair share? Would you be okay paying 70% of the money you make in taxes?

Central HumCo
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7 years ago
Reply to  THC

~seems were okay with 60%. And to think once upon a time there was a Revolution over a 2% tea tax.

To repress rebellion is to maintain the status quo, a condition which binds the mortal creature in a state of intellectual or physical slavery. But it is impossible to chain man merely by slaving his body, the mind also must be held, and to accomplish this, fear is the accepted weapon. The common man must fear life, fear death, fear God, fear the devil, and fear most the overlords, the keepers of his destiny.” Manly Hall.

ernestine
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ernestine
7 years ago
Reply to  THC

Thc, after id made $800,000 in a single month, then yes.
After, in a single month, I’d made 4x what your best paid neighbor made in all of last year, then yes, id expect to get hit with a luxury tax.
That seems perfectly right.

Mike
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Mike
7 years ago
Reply to  ernestine

Why because the government is doing such a great job spending your tax dollars? Something that would make far more sense would be to close corporate loopholes that allow them to shelter their money overseas or force them to produce their products in America creating jobs. You think more taxation is the key, why? You like funding wars and subsidizing corporations? You like wasting half your money on bureaucracy and accomplishing nothing? You like every single infrastructure project lining the pockets of politicians and their friends and coming in 10 times over budget? Yelling for more is so short sighted it’s idiotic, you’re just giving a kid with diabetes more candy.

tired of idiots
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tired of idiots
7 years ago
Reply to  Joe Dirt

Aoc, lol. She’s an idiot. I’ve watched her interviews. A real woman-child. They’re going to shut her down. I mean the Dem’s.

ernestine
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ernestine
7 years ago

That may happen, but that’s due to their greedy attachment to election finance schemes.
We will see where it goes. Im on aoc,s side. I hope the justice democrats make headway.
Then central can know his constitution still means something

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
7 years ago
Reply to  ernestine

Aoc? Are you serious? Did you not see that new green deal they just unveiled? Its ludicrous, completely impossible, and very socialist. They are going to guarantee economic security for people “don’t want to work”. They are going to replace every building I’m the US with a new “green” building? Haha using what? Prius powered heavy equipment? “Things need to be invented that have never been invented before”? Did you not hear the stuff that came out of her mouth? My neighbors donkey makes more sense when it opens its mouth.

just me
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just me
7 years ago

Raylee stop complaining. get of dope, get a job, and pull your own weight. about half of the homeless we should give a hand . the rest get nothing but arrested if they break the law. stop giving them, food clothes, shelter, dogs , phones, free vet care and list goes on. they will get moving when there hungry and cold. i did . i got 20years clean and off the street. or your [edit] can bring them home with you.

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7 years ago
Reply to  just me

She wasn’t complaining. She explained something about how it is. I like her article.

Trillium Hummingbird
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Trillium Hummingbird
7 years ago

The writings of homeless persons always include ravings about why! Drugs, no job, just couldn’t make it, whatever!
The excuses for your situation are tiresome, constant rationalizations offered by persons in your situation make no sense. Among the many, many services provided for the homeless, are drug rehab, general assistance, shelters, churches, hospitals, job search services: on and on, society pays to support your poor choices!

I endorse the idea that you could build something for yourself, if you had designated space, leaders, and adequate supplies. I do not condone the idea that working people should just hand over endless services, money, and support, while you all lay around and drink and take drugs while offering inchoate excuses!

As far as women and children, they should be supported, provided for. As for the other members of homeless society, they need to get off our streets, band together to petition the government for a designated space, and the tools to construct a world separate from polite society.

Wasting your time, Raelee, since life is hard for everyone, and since the many of us don’t receive constant support, free food, shelter, medical care, welfare and etc!

If you want to continue to beg for a living, please don’t appeal to our sympathies, as they have been exhausted!

Remember, Raelee, I have a house because I spent an entire lifetime working, saving, investing and engaging in maintaining my place in society. You receive the benefit of my life of working and paying taxes. That’s me, who gave you those services, so be grateful, clean yourself up, play the game and get to work, and quit whining!

You will be so glad you did!

Central HumCo
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7 years ago

Lordie, today you’re a Hummingbird.

~so profound: When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will know that you are the suns of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you are in poverty, and you are poverty. Book of Thomas.

“If you want to continue to beg for a living, please don’t appeal to our sympathies, as they have been exhausted!”

SPEAK for yourself.

ernestine
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ernestine
7 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Very good central!!

As I recall it is the poor who anoint Christ and make him the messiah

Christianity may not be someone’s thing, but the truth in the stories is still there. Despite the transgressions of Falwell and his greedy ilk.

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
7 years ago

Oh my. Many of those fine jobs that people have supporting the homeless and working at all these services pay for very nice housing for those employed in such places. If you’ve ever been a lawyer, or a doctor, or work for any of those types of services you’ve made quite a fine living off of helping the homeless or challenged Persons.

Mr. Hummingbird God forbid your house would ever burn down, then what would you do? And don’t say some smarmy answer. I have many friends from Santa Rosa that had lovely homes tragically underinsured still aren’t rebuilt. And some other friends that lost homes in the Camp fire that actually work for the school district that are now moving to Minnesota because they cannot afford to rebuild off of the insurance.

Willie caos- mayhem
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7 years ago

?Go get him Mamma. ?????????

Perspective
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Perspective
7 years ago

LOL! You are comparing apples to oranges.

ernestine
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ernestine
7 years ago
Reply to  Perspective

What are you talking about!? This very week the people in paradise got told by their city council and backed up by their county board….. get of your own property and go homeless if your house is burnt!

https://kobi5.com/news/fire-victims-evicted-from-paradise-95354/

Perspective
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Perspective
7 years ago
Reply to  ernestine

Do you know what “apples to oranges” means?

I like stars
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I like stars
7 years ago

“The writings of homeless persons always…”

You lost me right there. What do black people always do? How about women? White men?

“Always” statements about groups of people are always inaccurate.

Helllbilly
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Helllbilly
7 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Agreed

Esme
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Esme
7 years ago

It’s clear you didn’t even read the piece. Not one word. No where were their any “excuses”. Really just efforts to educate and a wish that people would not demonize the homeless and assume they are all the same and assume that the problems that some of them contribute to are done entirely by the homeless.

There, I summarized it for you. But perhaps you are a demonstration that these efforts are pointless for some people. Their prejudice is too strong and to valuable to them for any facts to move.

For Sure
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7 years ago
Reply to  Esme

Again, why not designate a large, unused bldg to create a well-managed ” indoor campground “? There are a few of those bldgs- the empty KMart, Rays Mkt in Mckinleyvville and more. It would be cheaper by far than running the homeless around and having them in jail or in the emergency rooms at hospitals.

Central HumCo
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7 years ago
Reply to  For Sure

~no profit. Unconstitutional Corporations are Only about the bottom line.

PRIVATE POLICING ISN’T A FANTASY
07/12/2016
Tate Fegley

Many people recoil from the idea of policing being done by private, for-profit enterprise. They imagine that such companies, in their attempt to maximize profit, would be even more abusive than government police. But what most fail to realize is that private ‘police’ already exist in America and to a large extent: there are an estimated 3 persons employed in private security for every public cop. These include a wide range of roles and skills, from the night watchman at a construction site to sophisticated cyber security experts ensuring that financial transactions are secure.

Private policing isn’t some fantasy, and it isn’t just a luxury enjoyed by the rich: every time you enter a shopping mall, go to a department store, visit an amusement park, enjoy a live professional sporting event, or use PayPal, you are being protected by people trying to maximize profit. In a free market, where transactions are voluntary, customers need to be pleased in order for companies to survive. People generally prefer to not be groped when they travel, choked for selling cigarettes, or have their homes raided by SWAT teams in the middle of the night for possessing a plant. It is only government police that engage in these types of activities because when a police agency’s source of revenue is involuntary and divorced from the quality of service it provides, abuses are more likely to occur.

Joe Dirt
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Joe Dirt
7 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

TH BA Where did diesel dually go he was part of your Crew 2 Healthcare that only cares about themselves these are the people you want working on you when you’re having emergency no wonder so many people have problems after leaving there sometimes they get lucky if you have a splinter that they could pull it out when you work in Healthcare you should learn about compassion when they got rid of doctor dr. Phelps who is Father started the hospital
All downhill from then on

rollin
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rollin
7 years ago

What do you do for a living hummingbird?

ClassWarrior
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ClassWarrior
7 years ago
Reply to  rollin

I think he counts his silver spoons.

Really?
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Really?
7 years ago
Reply to  ClassWarrior

That’s just delusional. A random noise to get the children excited.

I like stars
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I like stars
7 years ago
Reply to  rollin

He (and Billy, and Blackberry, and Taurus, and Stars Too, and Paul) was the only good employee Phelps Hospital ever had. 😉

Blackberry Amnesia
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Blackberry Amnesia
7 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Jerold Phelps hospital has many good employees, but, it also has crooked and incompetent HR and Administration and Board Members. Former Board Members and Administrators created hundreds of “severed employees”, primarily because SHCHD could not continuously afford to pay the people they had hired. SHCHD has a long history of making up lies about persons who came to Garberville to help the district, and then using the false information to terminate said employees. I and my colleagues did not create the situation, at SHCHD, and were only the victims of SHCHD’s ridiculous and illegal policies.

If they can’t pay their staff, they will lie and fire their staff. This is a very commonly applied process in District Hospitals, and, Mr Stars, if you had ever actually worked for Jerold Phelps, worked for Mendo Coast, or any of the other District Hospitals, you would have been exposed to this. Also, Mr Stars, if you knew anything at all about any of the things you talk about in print, constantly, I would be very surprised!

Martin
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Martin
7 years ago

Well said, I agree with your words 100%.

Central HumCo
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7 years ago
Reply to  Martin

100%? nah.

100% up to, but not including, blasphemy on I like stars.

[It’s really raining. Maybe enough to hear the Van Duzen when i open my front door!]

I like stars
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I like stars
7 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Thanks Central. 🙂

I guess the Hummingbird is pointing out that I was mistaken when I said he was a good employee. He’s probably right. 😉

Trillium Hummingbird
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Trillium Hummingbird
7 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

I also said that you know nothing. My opinion is that you hang out with Dave and Bunny too much…

ernestine
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ernestine
7 years ago

Well hummingduck. She didn’t excuse herself once. She asked for pinchbutt narcissistic individuals to see beyond the end of their own noses and to realize attributing the actions of individuals to an entire sub-population is nasty.
So, Are you nasty or ignorant?
If the homeless population had a unified skin tone, we’d call you a race-baiter . And we could conclude easily that your problem isn’t ignorance.

Not all homeless people break the law. You are in the prime economic category to find out for yourself soon.

Central HumCo
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7 years ago
Reply to  ernestine

~no bars held. Woman warrior.

Billy Casomorphin
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Billy Casomorphin
7 years ago
Reply to  ernestine

Dear Ernestine:

I like the title of the item, which states “not entirely to blame”.

Apologize all you want. If you love all the homeless people, take some to your place and nurture them.

Humboldt County, where we revere the homeless, until summer…

Joe Dirt
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Joe Dirt
7 years ago

Billy there is little hope for you maybe if you quit your job at Gerald phelps’s Hospital learn to be homeless for a little while you might find out what it is like to be human the streets might even teach you what it is to be moral again and have a bit of compassion for others otherwise you might just continue to be a Slave to your own hypocrisy

Guest
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7 years ago
Reply to  Joe Dirt

So- to make it clear- you prefer to call someone hopeless because they don’t agree with you that anyone homeless is faultless in living that way? You think he should quit his job and camp out because that suffering will make them sympathetic with people whose suffering he thinks is largely self imposed?

ernestine
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ernestine
7 years ago
Reply to  Guest

No, I think what’s being said is ‘ look beyond the end of your own danged nose ‘
And stop acting like all homeless are any more all the same than all housed people.
I heard your neighbor hit his wife. I guess that makes you both”housed wifebeating scum”
Oh no, you are one And he is another??
That’s what rennae is trying to say about homeless people.

And Joe dirt appears to say, if you can’t figure that out by thinking about it, there might be a moral problem, and your soul might need some medicine in the form of suffering yourself

Guest
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7 years ago
Reply to  ernestine

The people who are taking care of themselves are the ones who “have figured it out” and blaming them for that doesn’t move one person who hasn’t got a handle on basic self care into a house. In fact it interferes with actually accomplishing something useful because it attacks those who have the will power, wherewithal and knowledge to do what your sermonizing and bullying can’t. Trying running your own attitudes through a morality filter to see if anything other than noise comes out the other side.

NoShitSherlock
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NoShitSherlock
7 years ago

You look very familiar.

Where you on the Mateele board?

Reading your self centered comments, I think you are hiding the truth from yourself and that your success has been had at the expense of others.

Lost Croat Outburst
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Lost Croat Outburst
7 years ago

Maybe not the exact way I would have put it, but so what? Hard to argue with the sentiment. Thus the tug between charity and disdain. I love the work of Betty Kwan Chinn, she seems to emphasize help with a hand up and out of poverty into self-support. A job.

The key is to maintain respect for the person and their problems while not condoning a lifestyle of total dependence on charity as a satisfactory career choice if avoidable.

A living wage for honest work helps out.

Guest
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7 years ago

Yes.

Coast
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Coast
7 years ago

Well said. Tired of these lazy mofos complaining

Nunya
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Nunya
7 years ago

Well said

Coffee Blogger
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Coffee Blogger
7 years ago

It’s cold outside.
Maybe it gets so bad all you can do is wonder “why”?
You are not wasting your time.
Thanks for the words.
Stay dry.

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
7 years ago

Houseless. I also use housing challenged as well. Raelee valid points and it brought back a couple of clients that I used to work with and their houseless stories. ❤?❤

One was the gentleman who had worked for the railroad for a long time had a pretty darn good pension a wife of 40 years and three grown kids.

Wife dies suddenly. This is before the days of cell phones. He becomes horribly depressed proceededs to drink for the next several months. Doesn’t pay the bills cuz the wife always did. Whinds up losing everything after about 90 days. Gets kicked out of the house with the clothes on his back due to a non compassionate landlord. He had enough funding in his account that everything could have been rectified quickly but nobody took the time to care. Kids cant get contacted weren’t able to track him down so he moved out behind Safeway in Willits. He would walk from the creek behind Safeway in to Safeway to get his alcohol and go back to the creek. Eventually one day he was found with maggots eating his feet. He did wind up in the local convalescent hospital and they were able to hear his story and help him have permanent housing for the rest of his life in the nursing home.

Second Story that really comes to mind is young man shot in his early twenties quadriplegic in a wheelchair. Had been in many local Help Housing situations over the years and had fairly stable housing. Wound up in the hospital with a wound infection and had to stay in there for quite some time on antibiotics. Meanwhile girlfriend precedes to sell all of his stuff at the house while he’s gone takes off moves out. The discharge planners go out to his place to evaluate and talk to her and find the empty house. He was never able to recover off of that not. Not enough support no local family. Not enough Services out there to assist him to get back on his feet. He to wound up living out his days in the Convalescent Hospital passing away when he was 44 years old.

As far as the Sharps Containers go and the used needles. Yes I’ve seen multiple diabetics and people that inject other types of medicines I E pregnancy hormone, blood thinners, all kinds of things like that also require these tiny syringes. There aren’t great places for sharps disposal. So wind up finding trash cans full of them and coffee cans full of them frequently at homes that I visit for patients. The sharps container will be stuffed so full of needles they are spilling out the top. There aren’t very many places that they can be dropped off. They say you drop them off at the hospital or drop them off at this one location but that’s not always conducive to a clean disposal of those items.

Two totally different people influenced by entirely common circumstances. It’s not glamorous it’s not beautiful but it’s a fact.

Thanks Raelee! 100%. ❤❤❤

Willie caos- mayhem
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7 years ago

?Great share,thanks.

Central HumCo
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7 years ago

Well said Mendo Mamma. Thank you for being who you are.

~and yes, reading Raelee’s article is, for me, Much More palatable than looking at the programming of the public w/Press Releases from the purveyors of nonsense.

Willie caos- mayhem
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7 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

???????

Really?
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Really?
7 years ago

Such nonsense to keep changing the name of something to keep ahead of the negative reality.

Rusty's mom
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Rusty's mom
7 years ago

Oooo….. A nasty landlord is to blame!!! He should have been able to live there rent free for the rest of his life??

just me
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just me
7 years ago

permanent housing great idea. prisons, interment camp for the ones who need retraining that just cant get the message its not ok to hurt people and take there stuff. . perfect. lets start picking them up.

ernestine
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ernestine
7 years ago
Reply to  just me

A Christmas Carol (December 1843) charity collectors approach Scrooge:

“At this festive season of the year, Mr. Scrooge,” said the gentleman, taking up a pen, “it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the Poor and Destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir.”

“Are there no prisons?” asked Scrooge.

“Plenty of prisons,” said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.

“And the Union workhouses?” demanded Scrooge. “Are they still in operation?”

“They are. Still,” returned the gentleman, “I wish I could say they were not.”

“The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?” said Scrooge.

guest
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guest
7 years ago
Reply to  ernestine

Yup. Unemployment is hell. We need jobs that drug addicts can do.

Trillium Hummingbird
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Trillium Hummingbird
7 years ago

There is no substitute for preparation, plain hard work, participation, and continuing to look to the future!

Lack of any of the above elements, can and will contribute to the sorts of situations listed above.

You can plan, but the gods will laugh! When does the responsibility of society’s services kick in, and where does it end?

What, MM and HC, is your solution? Attack and ridicule hardly approaches sensible conclusion, and, in a culture with little, how much should be given? Certainly, anyone can find life out of control, or find someone elses life out of control! Where does the responsibility of society kick in? This hardly started yesterday, so where should we go from here?

Willie caos- mayhem
Guest
7 years ago

?And what are you doing ,attacking a persons words when they come from the heart. Just because you had a bad experience in life at sometime (and your entitled to have your own opinion) still lighin up.

Orange Sunshine
Guest
Orange Sunshine
7 years ago

Where does the responsibility of society kick in? How about the preamble to the Constitution: “We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general WELFARE…”
Extra capitalization on the word welfare is by me so you can’t miss it Mr. Hummingbird.

Guest
Guest
Guest
7 years ago

The general welfare is not promoted by taking away one person’s resources to give it to another. Knowing that your own labor is seen as only a resource to be used by someone else is more akin to slavery. That is just plain welfare. General welfare means all benefit, not just some, thus common ground exists for providing it.

rollin
Guest
rollin
7 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Guest is spot on. The general welfare clause, along with interstate commerce and the necessary and proper clause have been abused to the point where our Republic is unrecognizable, something many of the founders predicted. That is a large part of the reason we have such a massive homeless population. Our “leaders” try to out promise one another, giving away “free” shit, to the point where we now have a massive welfare state at the expense of productive citizens. People choose their lives. The productive among us are sick and fucking tired of being asked to pay for people at the point of a government gun who have made those shitty choices. Then, they have the balls to point to The Constitution to justify the theft. Furthermore, they want to invite the entire third world here to join in on the handouts. Build the fucking wall already!

I have a certain amount of sympathy for statist ignorance. After all, they were raised in government run schools. However, my sympathy ends when they refuse, as adults, to learn the history that they weren’t taught in school, to learn the truth. For instance, I will put a link to a website that will explain the aforementioned clauses and how it was predicted that they would be abused and every liberal reading this will ignore it and mercilessly cling to their untenable position anyway. They will reinforce the position of the original scumbag, traitorous politicians who twisted our founding documents in the first place that led to the demise of our freedoms and the rise of the welfare state. And that is why liberal ideology is so vile and disgusting.

https://mises.org/library/taxes-and-general-welfare

http://freedomforallseasons.org/ConstitutionalRelatedReports/The%20Antifederalists%20Were%20Right%20-%20Gary%20Galles%20-%20Mises%20Daily.htm

I wish you luck Raelee. If you make good choices you will end your situation in time; for now, this is still a relatively free country with opportunity. There are many good people out there who are willing to help those who genuinely want to work hard and prosper. However, there are many us who are sick and tired of being vilified for not wanting to be forced to help those who do not want to help themselves.

Central HumCo
Guest
7 years ago
Reply to  rollin

~now that’s a one-hundred percent.

Thanks you for the links. I’ll give ’em a read. Learning is a never-ending path -until death of the body, that is.

“Build the fucking wall already!” This came in yesterday :-))

Subject:Breaking news…!!!

Breaking news …..
Trump to start deporting Democrats.
Mexico responds by starting to build border wall.

Rusty's mom
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Rusty's mom
7 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

LOLOL ? Love it! Both you (CentralHumCo) and Rollin hit the nail squarely on the head! This situation has my hard earned tax dollars and things stolen from me, paying for all these services PLUS cigarettes, alcohol and drugs.
Cut the money, cut the problems??

Central HumCo
Guest
7 years ago
Reply to  Rusty's mom

“Cut the money”? I’m thinking it took the Fall of the Roman Empire 200 years. We’ve been under the illusion for 150 years. It more than likely won’t do a turn-around in my or your’ lifetime. Not that i’m not holding my breath on this – I Am.

” . . .cut the problems”? Energy comes first, matter follows. Many want a solution to the problem, when they can’t see the problem. In the material world of 3D – yep, nothing will change as long as the funny money is in place. That won’t change until WE Do – within, and then without.

“Be the change . . .”

Joe Dirt
Guest
Joe Dirt
7 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Natural law paradigm shift

ernestine
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ernestine
7 years ago
Reply to  Rusty's mom

Rusty, you make million a year?? If not, you aren’t being screwed by the poor. You are being mindfugged by the 1%!!

Really?
Guest
Really?
7 years ago
Reply to  ernestine

It’s not an either/or. No one has to be filthy rich to be satisfied with their life. There is no benefit in spending your life complaining that someone else has more.

Silverlining
Guest
Silverlining
7 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Still,the eight hour work day is pretty sweet.
Along with Medi-care and Social Security.

shak
Guest
shak
7 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Well said Guest and Rollin.
Besides that, they are supposed to p r o m o t e the general welfare, not legislate it.
They are supposed to inspire the masses into getting off their woe is me couch and creating a career/job/trade that benefits self and others.
They are supposed to keep the liberties free and clear so that the masses are a b l e to enable prosperity for their posterity.
WE are supposed to hold THEM accountable if they don’t promote and if they do hinder.

NoShitSherlock
Guest
NoShitSherlock
7 years ago
Reply to  Guest

The problem is not between the homeless and the working class.

Yes, we see it first hand but the problem lies with the government.

How convenient to have common people blaming those without instead of the power that be the at has UNLIMITED recourse.

ernestine
Guest
ernestine
7 years ago
Reply to  NoShitSherlock

You are almost there. It’s more direct. It’s the tax code.

just me
Guest
just me
7 years ago

Orange Sunshine . lol you must be joking. cap JOKING lol. dumocrat for sure. Humboldts brightest.

Central HumCo
Guest
7 years ago

TH,

~your first two sentences are, for the most part, boasting.

“When does the responsibility of society’s services kick in, and where does it end? ”

Prior to FDR’s Great Betrayal regarding The General Welfare Clause of the Constitution (author Eustace Mullins), people within a community helped one another. I MEAN, really, how ever did we, as a species, make it to the GREAT Depression of the 1930s w/out our hands out to Bid Daddy?

Are we over a barrel? As the late great Wayne Dyer said – “Change the way you look at things, and the things you look at change.” -what if you saw the pirates in a black robe as “judgie wudgies”? The tyrants, as men and women just like you and me? “That man is not equal is the primitive belief of primitive man.”

(mid 1930’s -this is where the usurped fed. control of Agriculture kicked in, along with REGIStration of newborns -w/out Full Disclosure of the cestui que trust account STRAW MAN NAME in Commerce, SS, . . ).

Society cannot realize the illusory concept of the individual’s absolute independence. Freedom is to be found only in the sphere in which government does not interfere. Liberty is freedom from the Gov’t.

Solution? I’m good with Mark Passio’s profound knowledge and dedicated sharing of same, at the root of humankind’s problem.

“Behold” is Shakesperian for, “You have to read it (watch it), for yourself.'”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkQUry7R6HE&app=desktop

Joe Dirt
Guest
Joe Dirt
7 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

That YouTube has a lot of great information in it Shadow works it’s a long one and I’m not done with it yet man’s law and natural law the big divide that puts us into slavery going to get back into studying this one thanks for the sharing snow levels going way down and there should be a homeless shelter open today in southern Humboldt stay dry stay alive

Central HumCo
Guest
7 years ago
Reply to  Joe Dirt

~i know. Isn’t it great? I’ll watch it several more times.

NoShitSherlock
Guest
NoShitSherlock
7 years ago
Reply to  Joe Dirt

Shadow Works? By who?

ernestine
Guest
ernestine
7 years ago

Well, hummingbird, Aoc wants to put a 70% tax on the 10millionth dollar of income someone makes in a year.
Elizabeth Warren wants to put a 1%tax on held wealth.
These 2 things will make a giant difference without costing you a cent! Cuz you are not rolling in $800,000 a month, are you?
And they’ll make you and the middle class much safer and more prosperous

Central HumCo
Guest
7 years ago
Reply to  ernestine

~the Green New Deal is the culmination of centuries of effort. It will roll out the 5G technology, connect the final details of the Smart Meter World Electrical Grid, and put an end to the pollution of the Industrial Revolution. Long term planning and the secret confiscation of trillions of dollars has made this New Word Order culmination plan possible. This will be world wide, compliments of the fine group headquartered in New York. It easily qualifies to be a page out of an Eric Blair novel.

Ocasio-Cortez Sells ‘Green New Deal’ To Democrats

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Alexandria-Ocasio-Cortez-Wide-Eyes.jpg

Details have emerged about Democratic New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s “Green New Deal” legislation slated for release as early as next week, according to reports.

“In it, we call for a national, social, industrial and economic mobilization at a scale not seen since World War II,” Ocasio-Cortez wrote in a letter to Democratic colleagues obtained by Bloomberg.

Ocasio-Cortez wrote that a “Green New Deal” included moving the U.S. to net-zero greenhouse gas emissions within 10 years “through a fair and just transition for all communities and workers,” create “good, high-wage jobs,” pour money into infrastructure and “promote justice and equity by preventing current and repairing historic oppression to frontline and vulnerable communities.”

Support for the “Green New Deal” is growing among Democratic 2020 hopefuls, including CALIFORNIA SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren and New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker.

Contributed by Michael Bastasch of The Daily Caller News Foundation.

(This is a 3-pg. article. I skipped to the end to bring KAMALA HARRIS into the picture)

Fortunian
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Fortunian
7 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

This “green new deal”, will also make us,(the people) slaves of the government. Read between the lines. No more cars, government jobs for all,(what do you think that means), telling you want you can and cannot eat, killing babies,(what is next? Killing old and disabled?). This is not the green new deal, this is the steps to the new “One World Order”. They want to run the world by turning all the countries into communist countries. The muslims want to make all countries into Muslim countries. Wake up America. We need to cone together as one and take our country back from the far left. Convention of states!!!

ernestine
Guest
ernestine
7 years ago
Reply to  Fortunian

It’s not”no cars” we’re ducking Americans. We’re not giving up cars!
No! It’s electric cars. And trains. It’s ” making do with what works”

The only people who want to restrict your freedom are the far right.

Really?
Guest
Really?
7 years ago
Reply to  ernestine

Yet it the left- and not even the far left- that screws up most people’s lives in their attempts to make people into what they are not.

shak
Guest
shak
7 years ago
Reply to  Fortunian

The COS is the final step they seek towards OWO/NWO.
Create a crisis, offer a solution ring any bells?
Congress (corrupt congress) calls all the shots on that.

They want us divided.
Religion against religion.
Race against race.
Culture against culture.
Children against parents.
Parents against children.
Poor against rich.
Rich against poor.
Workers against smoochers.
Smoochers against workers.
Housed against houseless.
Houseless against housed.
and so on and so on.
Who is They?
What is the final goal?

Control is power. Power is control.

There are none so blind as them who do not see.

tired of idiots
Guest
tired of idiots
7 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

ROFL! The leftists and Dems are diggin their own graves with these idiotic plans. The plans are going to die a quick death because they are completely not realistic.

202 Democratic hopefuls? They are a sad bunch with many problems that will be difficult if not impossible to overcome in order to get votes.

Kamala?? Lol, good luck getting votes [Edit: Using whore again will get you put on moderation and yes, I would say the same if you called Cindy Hyde-Smith a whore. I don’t allow slurs like that.]

AOC?? I want to see you debate someone with a brain, like Ben Shapiro. He will wreck you in seconds.

THC
Guest
THC
7 years ago
Reply to  ernestine

Even if Cortez put a 70% tax on everybody who is already paying taxes, it wouldn’t even be enough to fund Single Payer Health Care. Part of her new green deal is to provide a living wage to anybody unable or simply unwilling to work.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/study-medicare-for-all-plan-touted-by-bernie-sanders-would-cost-32-6-trillion/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/opinion/articles/2019-02-08/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-s-green-new-deal-is-unaffordable

Central HumCo
Guest
7 years ago
Reply to  THC

~oh Good God!

Isn’t it always “Green” or “Smart” or “Sustainable”?

shak
Guest
shak
7 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

OT; CH, did you see this admission? https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/428968-geoengineering-is-one-way-to-fight-climate-change-and-cool-the-planet
I bet it gets buried tomorrow under a new flood of Russia Russia Russia lol.

Central HumCo
Guest
7 years ago
Reply to  shak

~okay i read it. I’m of the thought that we’re going into an ice age. They happen quick, as when flash-frozen animals have been found with food not digested in their stomach. The possibility looms that by this time next year most of us, here, will either have been vaporized, or a popsicle.

It is delusional to think that the created has more power than the Creator.

. . . We, the people, created government.

shak
Guest
shak
7 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

I agree about the ice age scenario, and that’s it’s a natural event in the cycle.
Did you catch that he’s actually admitting that ‘ctrails’ are beneficial for them?

tired of idiots
Guest
tired of idiots
7 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

CH, I don’t know where you start and end considering your strange comments, but I agree that it’s delusional to think that we have control over the planet.

Guest
Guest
Guest
7 years ago

Way too many can’t control themselves much less anyone else. Is this why they advocate that government can control everyone better than they control themselves? As if government wasn’t made up of the very same failure ridden humans too?

Brian
Guest
Brian
7 years ago
Reply to  THC

70% taxes and more have applied to the very wealthy in America’s history.

It was only in, and for, WW2 that the taxes were spread further into the middle class with higher takings but less from the very wealthy.

I’m not claiming to know the details of Cortez’ plan, but nonetheless, you should study our tax history.

THC
Guest
THC
7 years ago
Reply to  Brian

If you studied our tax history, then you would know that 70% tax on the wealthy is what caused all the tax loopholes that they still exploit to this day. Very few, if any people actually paid the full 70% that’s why Swiss bank accounts became very popular…

Brian
Guest
Brian
7 years ago
Reply to  THC

Do you have anything to back up what you are saying?

Regarding the Swiss, it’s client secrecy protections that make the banks popular. It’s been that way since 1934 by law.

Very few people paid the highest margins of the tax bracket, because few people qualified regarding earnings.

https://teachinghistory.org/history-content/ask-a-historian/24489

Loopholes can be dealt with.

Tax evasion is a crime.

Neither loopholes or tax evasion are good reasons to avoid a higher progressive tax on extreme wealth.

Guest
Guest
Guest
7 years ago
Reply to  Brian

The point is that there are no loophole proof laws. And, like grasping sand, the harder you squeeze people, the more escape. In fact laws are probably the biggest industry in the U.S. It’s no coincidence that lawyers, those with lawyers on retainers, government and legislators form a group excluding poverty.

Central HumCo
Guest
7 years ago
Reply to  Guest

” In fact laws are probably the biggest industry in the U.S. It’s no coincidence that lawyers, those with lawyers on retainers, government and legislators form a group excluding poverty.” –Great perspective Guest.

~the “Legal” law was made for one thing – the exploitation of those who don’t understand it, or are prevented by naked misery from obeying it.

Since there is a Supreme Being, then the living spirit in the flesh, then contracts, then governments, such as corporations, how do the bottom feeders have authority to create policy enforcers as lawful authority?

Brian
Guest
Brian
7 years ago
Reply to  Guest

What are you saying?

You want economic anarchy?

What your saying is that because people break laws we shouldn’t have laws?

Brian
Guest
Brian
7 years ago
Reply to  THC

The 1950s?

WW2 was over and passed.

Your going 70 years back for answers when we have over 200 years of experiances to pick from.

Again, taxing the middle class as we are only began during ww2.

We had huge economic gains before the War2.

shak
Guest
shak
7 years ago
Reply to  THC

It’s fun watching the Deutsche banks being raided and scrutinized again, though, admit it.

Lynn H
Guest
Lynn H
7 years ago

Sounds to me like you are personally terrified of the idea of becoming broke or homeless. Bit of a trigger for you. You protest too much, methinks.

tm
Guest
tm
7 years ago

There are many types of homeless, and reasons for being homeless. There are the invisible homeless, who show up to work and school, and quietly live in their cars and tents because of housing shortages, fires, medical emergencies, insane rental costs. The folks seen on the street are often another type of homeless, often with dual diagnosis of mental illness and drug use. There isn’t really a one size fits all solution to this problem, some folks choose to live on the streets, while many are forced there, after working all of their lives or being in the military.

Guest
Guest
Guest
7 years ago
Reply to  tm

There is a difference between being temporarily and chronically camping out . And a difference between those who will find a fix and those who resist fixing.

Mendocino Mamma
Guest
Mendocino Mamma
7 years ago
Reply to  tm

100% there!

Guest
Guest
Guest
7 years ago

There are always “stories” and “reasons why” but hardly any of them are reality that should be accepted unexamined. For example in my experience the phrase “worked all my life” can mean anything from “was steadily employed from age 16 until retirement at 62, through good times and bad” to “worked off and on for a few years when wasn’t in jail or living off someone else.” Some people simply focus on every problem as if the slightest was insurmountable while others don’t even mention problems that are jaw droppingly awful. Everyone can and most have problems but it’s how they were met that makes a difference.

Frankly there are many stories as to why a person can’t get it together to have shelter for a long time but the reasons come down to two almost all the time- substance abuse and/or mental illness. And at some point the line between the two becomes impossible to separate. Real mental illness is a wrenching ugliness that takes guts to survive. It is not a choice and coping with it can take sometimes all the inner resources a person can muster. Mental illness can create an inability to act in ways that seem to those not ill an easy and obvious solution. Drug addiction was a choice at one point but the longer it goes on the less choice has a part in it. Most prefer their own ideas about how they live even if it leads to what most of the public thinks of as a very ugly life.

But that does not mean that their interpretations and self justifications, created mostly out of illness, have to be believed. It won’t help their physical survival to think that their choices are reality based. They may chose to focus obsessively on excuses but those who want to help can’t get caught up in them if they want to have a different outcome.

Trillium Hummingbird
Guest
Trillium Hummingbird
7 years ago
Reply to  Guest

And, there is a hell of a lot of difference between a self-avowed drug addict living in the streets of a North Coast town and then writing to speak about “negative comments”, and a person in Santa Rosa whose home was destroyed.

Each of us has a story about someone, who gave up, drank until death, fell off the map of life! What does wishing my house burns down illustrate?

My working to have a home, maintaining adequate insurance in an eroding environment, has nothing to do with a person who cries for services from the streets of Eureka! I have people from Santa Rosa, Paradise, Upper Lake, Bogg’s Mountain… Our lives are tied to each other’s and entirely separate, apparently.

It is well to offer support, but at what point do we write off? I want a solution!

Just as in health care, we fuss and fuss, argue and talk, but no improvement is manifest! Homeless multiply as fast as the reasons for homelessness, but what shall be done?

Donald Trump wants a goddamn wall at the border, but who among you will prune grapevines all winter, 10-12 hrs/day, for $12/hr?

In a country full of opportunity, full of wealth, where all you have to do is try, what shall we do with the folks who won’t or can’t play? I’m not talking about women and children, the disabled, the folks with psych disorders, I am talking about people who choose the homeless lifestyle, choose to suck up the benefits.

Let’s hear from the non-apologists, the folks who feel responsibility counts for something!

Let’s not hear from the usual deranged bullies who dominate these forums…

Guest
Guest
Guest
7 years ago

What if you believed that the FBI was spying on you through implanted devices? Or that you believed a guy you just met at a party who said if you have him your pay check now, he would return the money to you tomorrow when he got the money his parents were sending? Or that you knew the wiring in your apartment was giving you cancer?

But those are the people you are talking about. The clarity of thinking that lets you make those choices may not be the reality of another. But, as I said, just because they say so doesn’t mean the FBI is really interested in their inner thoughts. Could possibly be but really how likely? You don’t have to get angry because someone who is not coping wants have a story told that makes them feel better about themselves. Now that other people support them in this continuing damaging thinking … that is irritating.

In my 1911 I trust
Guest
In my 1911 I trust
7 years ago

Shit 12 bucks an hour? Count me in. 10 hours a day? That’s like 120 bucks, probably 110 after tax. That’s 29,000 a year. I know a lot of people that would to that, myself included. Where is your work ethic hummingbird? To be able to look down on that sort of money?!?!

Trillium Hummingbird
Guest
Trillium Hummingbird
7 years ago

You are surrounded by immigrants who produce your world. Why are the homeless too good to live on $29,000/year? Hell, are you too good for that?

And baby, I have done farm work, thousands of hours for $1.60/hr in the 60’s and 70’s. You haven’t lived until you have done farm work for minimum wage…

I also went to college, worked a career, raised children. Nobody gave me anything.

Pride, focus, responsibility, sobriety. Building blocks of the “non-houseless”…

In my 1911 I trust
Guest
In my 1911 I trust
7 years ago

1.60 went a lot farther 50 years ago. I would happily work for 10. And immigrants do not produce my world. They produce yours but not mine. There are some people who enjoy being self sustainable. A perk to that is someone who is self sustainable cannot be boxed in by cliche statements like “immigrants produce your world”. When I can afford someone to harvest my veggies and prune my fruit trees, I’ll let you know.

Really?
Guest
Really?
7 years ago

The solution, which will never be total, is to say either you provide for yourself or we will provide for you even if you object. And mean it.

I like stars
Guest
I like stars
7 years ago

If no one will prune the grape vines for ridiculously low wages the grape growers will be left with three options. Prune them themselves, leave them unpruned, or pay more. De facto slave labor shouldn’t be an option.

Guest
Guest
Guest
7 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Yes, yes, yes… but I suspect we mean it differently.

Groba dude trustafarian osnt
Guest
Groba dude trustafarian osnt
7 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

To a Guatemalan refugee, it’s hardly slave labor.
Once again, Mr Stars, you have no idea what you are talking about…

Central HumCo
Guest
7 years ago

I like stars -yoooou’re ‘up’ today. ha ha.

“De facto . . . slave labor shouldn’t be an option.”

I’ll take a stab at it. A non-national American refugee, from wherever, is taking the bread off of the table of a born here, raised here, full-blooded, state national.

I like stars
Guest
I like stars
7 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Yes, but it’s not just that.

The illegal immigrants may be satisfied with the wages but that doesn’t negate that they are being paid less than the true value of the work. They are being taken advantage of whether they know it or not.

United States citizens suffer in many ways. Potential low wage workers suffer both wage depression and direct competition for positions. All citizens suffer from crime perpetrated by illegal immigrants. All citizens suffer financially when a portion of our tax pool is spent on illegal immigrants (healthcare, schools, law enforcement, etc.) Tax money used for social support of illegal immigrants is a de facto government subsidy in support of the de facto slavery.

The only people who aren’t mistreated by the current system are the fat cats who employ the illegals. They get all the benefits of being slave masters without the actual need to care for their workforce. It is disgusting.

Scapegoat
Guest
Scapegoat
7 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

^^^^

Lynn H
Guest
Lynn H
7 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

It’s so true. I’m on the far left and I agree wholeheartedly with you on this issue. For me being on the left meant pro labor and pro civil rights.

My immigrant neighbors have very few civil rights. In some ways their lives are hell because of this. It would be better to let people in legally for both immigration and work visas appropriate to the situation than to create and maintain a slave class. Because that is what we have been doing.

We can’t take every single person around the world who wants to live in the US. But maybe at some point the ones we can take will have rights and competitive wages. If not then the entire working class of the US becomes slave labor at wages which can not even sustain housing. It’s entirely demoralizing this country in every way. We have people who are working full time who live in tents all over the country.

shak
Guest
shak
7 years ago

It is ‘slavery’ after that worker is required to pay the higher costs of living in Calif.
In SA, the wages would more than cover the monthly expenses, plus an abundance left over to start a business, but that’s a really long commute.
Once transplanted to a state with higher wages, they’re accosted with the higher cost of living. The avg American worker has more month at the end of the money, just like in other countries. The fruit trees in America aren’t freely picked like they are in some of the other countries. Wallets of fellow workers are picked instead, by men with guns and badges if you don’t give your ‘fair’ share to those who w/d/on’t work.

UnCommonSense
Guest
UnCommonSense
7 years ago

Explain homeless veterans. Those who go fight the war that you likely supported, read a “Dear John” letter between IEDs and mortar rounds, and come back to Humboldt missing his house and leg, with a fresh case of PTSD and inhuman assholes without compassion.
Explain the fellow whose house was stolen by rich bankers because the factory he worked at for 20 years moved to China.
Explain the divorcee whose wife took everything.
Explain the Arcata Plazoid known as Sunflower. She was a schoolteacher until some kids smashed her head and superdosed her with LSD.
There but for the grace of God go I. You should hope that you stay on God’s good side. I’ll let you in on a secret, though: the hate in your heart is a barrier to peace of mind.

Perspective
Guest
Perspective
7 years ago
Reply to  UnCommonSense

Our government obviously doesn’t give a sh!t about them. I believe if you have served in the armed forces you should at the very least, have housing paid for and any injury obtained while enrolled in the armed forces. If a person signs up to give their life, the government should reciprocate. But that would cut into their profit margin, now wouldn’t it?

anon
Guest
anon
7 years ago
Reply to  UnCommonSense

^^^AMEN!
Hummingbird says, “I’m not talking about women and children, the disabled, the folks with psych disorders”…buddy, those are ALL the homeless! It is important to understand that people don’t just become drug addicts, they are trying to numb the pain of their life!
I am certain all who are homeless could also get a PTSD diagnosis if they had access to mental health services. I know that pain. I am privileged enough to have worked my ass off in my 20s by the time of my trauma so that I could quit and collect Social Security for a while and try to heal what western medicine deems is incurable. They just want to medicate, which I have refused in favor of major lifestyle changes and continuous therapy with psychotherapists who specialize in trauma recovery, but again my privilege has allowed that. There are no pills for PTSD. The ones western medicine prescribes are bandaids that only numb the pain and turn good people into zombies. They do not heal. We need to learn that we must first feel safe and supported to feel the intense pain of our experiences in order to find healing. Very few practitioners understand this.
I have been close to the brink of houselessness. Trauma is real and debilitating and is a major epidemic that we as a society are choosing not to face. If 22 soldiers are killing themselves every day, what is the real number of trauma survivors in this country who don’t have the support to feel their pain and move through the healing process and end their life instead…every day?!
We don’t just experience trauma in warzones and for those who do not have the proper support around their trauma, that can become PTSD.
For someone who calls himself Hummingbird, he could stand to embody more love and show come empathy or at least compassion for those who are not as privileged as he. I hope he remembers to add PRIVILEGE and HEALTH to his building blocks of the “non-houseless”.

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7 years ago
Reply to  UnCommonSense

https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2018/mar/27/travis-allen/has-californias-homeless-population-skyrocketed-an/

https://www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/homeless-veterans-statistics/2017/02/03/id/651049/

https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/statistics/suicide.shtml

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_United_States

Turns out California, Hawaii and New York have the highest rates of homelessness. California has highest total number of homeless.

After many years of advocacy and numerous revisions, President Ronald Reagan signed into law the McKinney–Vento Homeless Assistance Act in 1987; this remains the only piece of federal legislation that allocates funding to the direct service of homeless people.

Even more strange, while homelessness is very high in California, rates of suicide in the State are way lower than most other places in the US.

Strangely enough women veterans are 4 times more likely to be homeless than male veterans.

The highest rate of suicide is in Native Americans followed by white Americans . Even more distictive the over all highest rate of suicide is among men over 65. And addiction rates follow similar trends both as to race and gender.

Willie caos- mayhem
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7 years ago

?For once I partly agree with you.

Fortunian
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Fortunian
7 years ago

The LEGAL IMMIGRANT WILL PICK THE GRAPES. The illegal idiots are criminals trying to get into our country illegally. Do you get it?

Brother Newcomb
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Brother Newcomb
7 years ago

“Not all of the homeless deserve to be treated like we’re complete scum” – No one deserves to be treated like complete scum, whether they are Homeless, Elderly, Disabled, Sick or whatever. We are all Human Beings and deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. As a member of the Priesthood, Compassion, Forgiveness and Love are the key components for the “Chicken Soup of the Soul” while we lend aid to those in need. -IHS

Central HumCo
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7 years ago

Brother Newcomb,

~as one who has led, for the most part, a story-book life, one of my most important lessons is to return a compliment. When i look inside people i pass on the street, in a grocery store, in an elevator . . . and strive to be the first one to smile and/or communicate . . . i choose to see the beauty within. Therefore, that is what i receive back 99.9% of the time.

We make our own reality.

rollin
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rollin
7 years ago

Brother Newcomb,

“We are all Human Beings and deserve to be treated with dignity and respect.”

Agreed. People should not have their income stolen and redistributed to others. They also should not be berated because they object to that theft. They deserve dignity and respect.

hmm
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hmm
7 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Assuming that income is obtained morally and not by taking advantage of the power imbalances inherent to poorly regulated capitalism.

tired of idiots
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tired of idiots
7 years ago
Reply to  hmm

hmm, Who gets to decide?

tired of idiots
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tired of idiots
7 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Rollin, Correct.

The comments section engine on this site is flat out terrible.

Kym Kemp
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7 years ago

Got any money to help me upgrade?

Joe Dirt
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Joe Dirt
7 years ago
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I got a couple of wingnuts a couple of screws loose and a couple missing marbles little better LSD a little bit of PCP little bit does DMT but I got no money got some homeless Buddies got some dirty socks and and a couple of fleas some clean underwear got a mental case 5150 maybe I could help this comment section for free. You Just been upgraded kyme. if you could use any of this stuff I’d be happy to donate it

This is a great comment section sometimes my phone gets a little gummed up though could be net neutrality Ajit Pai
Oh come to think about it I could use some money to

'Merican woman
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'Merican woman
7 years ago

If you have a roof over your head and a door you can lock and are not DOING something to help those without….the least you can do is refrain from judging, eh?

Guest
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7 years ago
Reply to  'Merican woman

And leave the judging to those who couldn’t manage any of those things?

hmm
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hmm
7 years ago

Compassion and anger are not mutually exclusive. You can understand a person and still not like their influence on the community.

Given that jaywalking, littering, public intoxication, public defecation, unlicensed dogs are all against the law, it is very hard to argue that the homeless are not involved in crimes at a much higher rate than the housed. This is ignoring the more serious crimes that we regular see committed by homeless drug addicts.

The author admits to going through peoples recycling cans, which is rude and against the law. She has also been found guilty of felony possession of a controlled substance. So is she arguing that we shouldn’t judge all the homeless by the action of people like her? Incredibly, it is seems as though she feels unfairly judged herself.

Yes people with homes also commit theft. So what? We are talking per capita here.
Yes diabetics often improperly dispose of their needles. So what? They aren’t littering them all over town.

Her point that we do not distinguish between heroin an meth users is sad. Both litter needles. We use the term “tweekers” to refer to all homeless drug addicts. Any hard feeling over this use elicits no sympathy from me.

You can have both compassion and understanding for homeless drug addicts and still be angry about their actions. And still be weary of them when interacting. Dignity is something you earn for yourself with your actions, not a gift from others.

It is not compassionate to enable bad behavior.

Redwood County Mama
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Redwood County Mama
7 years ago

There are thousands of homeless recently added due to the fires that happened this summer. Climate-responsible disasters are destroying housing and swelling homelessness creating a global crisis. Unfortunately for those of us living here callousness exists as we would rather send aid to a foreign country than make sure our neighbors are safe and fed. The whole town of Paradise burned not only taking housing, but jobs as businesses burned to the ground. Now with FEMA checks gone on temporary shelter, Red Cross shelter closed, and 1700 parcels were landowners moved back to rebuild ordered by City Council to leave so FEMA could bring “their crews” to clean and rebuild. Truth is there is more demand for affordable housing then there is housing available. With wages not keep pace with rising housing costs in California millenials cannot purchase a home unless they have inherited wealth. The low income housing. A growing number of seniors on limited income cannot find a habitable, warm, and dry place to be, especially with the gentrification of former low income housing units expiring. Corporations are now buying up there units in urban areas and retrofitting them displacing the current tenants. Corporate-controlled housing with application fees and enormous deposits and endless rules is increasingly becoming the norm. Private homes in neighborhoods with yards and a degree of privacy and self-determination is a privilege few in the future will enjoy. If you do, be thankful.

Central HumCo
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7 years ago

Redwood County Mama, Emma and hmm (so far i can see),

~100%ers in here today.

hmm
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hmm
7 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Dont exclude yourself.

Central HumCo
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7 years ago
Reply to  hmm

hmm,

~thank you much for your kinds words.

The Triangle is pulling together. If any group of people can bring Heaven to Earth, they’re here, on the land, in the Emerald Triangle.

Gues
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Gues
7 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

It’s raining when it is not snowing. Even those who live on the land take from the land to survive. And minimizing the taking is hard work that most shun. No one eliminates the taking except by parasitism those who take. Typing a comment on here is proof that taking is going on.

tired of idiots
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tired of idiots
7 years ago

Climate responsible disasters? Please!

I’m more likely to believe that it was done with lasers.

Central HumCo
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7 years ago

tired of idiots -another awoke being.

Climate Change Hysteria. “Global Warming, climate change – all these things – are just a dream come true for politicians. The opportunities for taxation, for policies, for control, for crony-capitalism are just immense. You can see their eyes bulge.” MIT Professor Richard Lindzen.

hmm
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hmm
7 years ago

When the author writes “treated like complete scum” she must be using hyperbole. Given that complete scum are beaten, tortured, murdered, or imprisoned for long terms.

She must be referring to dirty looks or rejections of pan handling.

Emma
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Emma
7 years ago

“Assuming that income is obtained morally and not by taking advantage of ” alcoholics, drug addicts, people in general? Are bar owners taking advantage of an alcoholics addiction to fill his pockets? Are drug pushers taking advantage of the addicts addiction to fill his pockets? What do power imbalances have to do with people choosing, yes choosing, to abuse anything. People choose a self destructive behavior early in life or late in life for that matter and can’t figure out why the people who busted their butts all their lives shouldn’t pony up to take care of them. Speaking from experience of having a brother who self indulged, at everybody else’s expense, all his life and now can’t figure out why “nobody likes me” or wants him around.

hmm
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hmm
7 years ago
Reply to  Emma

Maybe if you read the comment that I was replying to you will get the context. I wasn’t referring to drug addicts or alcoholics.

“Are bar owners taking advantage of an alcoholics addiction to fill his pockets?”
Im sure a certain portion of their sales could accurately be described that way, yes.

“Are drug pushers taking advantage of the addicts addiction to fill his pockets? ”

In many cases yes. I think thats where the “pushers” part of the name comes from.

” What do power imbalances have to do with people choosing . . .”

Power imbalances often mean that there really isn’t a choice, and again I was not talking about drug users. The comment I replied to was about wealth redistribution.

hmm
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hmm
7 years ago

Since I do not believe in libertarian free will, I have a different notion of responsibly and justice than most. These conventions have great utility to society of course. I think examining the philosophical subject of free will elucidates how justice and compassion are not counter to one another. Wishing that people face justice does not mean that you are without compassion or understanding. In fact, in most cases compassion and understanding will lead to a desire for someone to face justice.

We need BOTH in house, long term, secular treatment AND stringent enforcement of the law. Drug addiction is a mental illness and as exculpatory of behavior as a brain tumor.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
7 years ago
Reply to  hmm

Drug addiction is not a mental illness. No one chooses to have a brain tumor, but people choose to use drugs. The resulting addiction is directly related to how much the drug user chooses to use said substance. If they use it enough in a short period of time, they become addicted. The effects of being addicted to caustic chemicals such as meth or heroin may eventually lead to a mental illness, as those substances tend to deteriorate the gray matter of ones brain. Addiction is not a victimless crime. For every line snorted and syringe being shot, there is a family in the country where its produced being terrorized for their land by cartels or paramilitary groups. Drug addicts support that behavior. They could care less how many children’s parents are killed so that their hit of whatever is produced. Couldn’t disagree with you more Hmm, in fact, you’re flat out wrong.

shak
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shak
7 years ago

The middle class are finally back to work all across the ‘nation’, thanks to the new admin abolishing the redundant regulatory agencies, and cutting back on many of the other severe regulations that forbid working for a living.
Many of the middle class were given bonus’s and raises by their newly freed bosses.
Extra wages are taxed just like regular wages, except more so.
With more people working and paying taxes, the numbers of jobless and homeless decrease.
Many tax breaks are planned for the middle class once the states have caught up in their ‘helping others’ rhetorical promises. The catching up has already taken place in most states. Jobs jobs jobs almost everywhere, which brings in more tax money to be dispersed as needed.
The timer is almost up though. Once the timer dings, even the middle class will see a huge decrease in their taxes. (%10 at first).
After cleaning up even more regulatory agencies, and another pause to catch up, another tax cut will roll out across the board.
The American middle class celebrate.
The anti-Americans cry.

Stay the course America.

Brian
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Brian
7 years ago
Reply to  shak

Dang Shak,

Wrong again, it seems:

Taxpayers got a double dose of bad news Friday when the Internal Revenue Service released figures on the first week of filing season. Not only has the agency processed fewer returns compared with the same time period last year as the IRS scrambles to catch up after closing during the partial government shutdown, but Americans also are seeing smaller refunds.

On average, filers’ tax refunds are about $170 lower than last year. The average refund so far this year is $1,865, down from $2,035 in 2018.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/tax-returns-refunds-given-out-so-far-this-year-are-smaller-than-in-2018-irs-data/

The average return so far is $170 less, but there’s a lot of stories of $2,000-$3,000 difference coming in.

Guest
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Guest
7 years ago
Reply to  Brian

From the linked article in your post- “Of course, a smaller refund doesn’t always mean someone paid more taxes. Early last year, businesses were encouraged to adjust how much tax they took out of employee paychecks to reflect the lower tax rates. ” Mine was adjusted so my refund is smaller even when the Federal income tax bill smaller and my income went up a bit.

Premature Gleeful Democrat Schadenfreund or PGDS to go along with TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome.)

Brian
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Brian
7 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Keep stretching yourself thinner.

I’m a Republican.

Good luck with your optimism regarding tax returns.

Would you like more reports of the #taxscam? You know what Google is.

Brian
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Brian
7 years ago
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7 years ago
Reply to  Brian

I can see you are not familiar with taxes and tax refunds. From your linked article-

“The vast majority of Americans got lower taxes from the new law, while only 5 percent or so should have seen a tax increase. Most people should have seen the changes in their paychecks last February. ”

The first example in your linked article is typical of why people got into trouble anyway. Ms. Callori assumed that the withholding was correct because someone else used the standard withholding EVEN THOUGH THAT DID NOT APPLY TO HER. Again from the linked article-

“The bigger reason is that her employer withheld too little from her paycheck. The extra $90 she received should have been added to the amount that gets automatically socked away to cover the federal income tax. Like most people, however, Callori did not fill out a worksheet and submit a new Form W-4 to her employer at the beginning of last year. … “I thought because I was getting that, I’m entitled to it,” Callori said. ”

Most people, especially those in States not having really high taxes that had been used as a deduction, are paying less in taxes. A lower refund does not always mean their taxes are more. Just that the amount withheld more closely matches what is owed. It’s like not getting change back because you give a ten dollar bill to the clerk at grocery for ten dollars worth of groceries. If you handed her a twenty, you would get a refund but the groceries would still cost ten dollars.

The idea was that people in other States should not be subsidizing on federal returns the taxes demanded by State who tax a lot by making it a deduction.

Brian
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Brian
7 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I’m not a tax expert.

But what you chose to quote and what you chose to not quote is more than apparent for an imbecile like me.

The article leans on objectivity so it presents an argument then a counter-argument..

You only quoted 1/4 of the article, then interjected your limited opinion and analogy on a very complex issue.

The short and skinny is a lot of people are not happy so far regarding the tax law, Trumps only real legislative works.

shak
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shak
7 years ago
Reply to  shak

Yep, it’s true folks, MORE people are working than ever before which brings in MORE taxes because there are MORE Tax Payers. (even a caveman like me understands that equation).
Record LOW unemployment. Higher wages. BETTER jobs like manufacturing that provides a living wage, which is a higher tax bracket.
Refunds will be better next year AFTER the 10% tax cut comes along. Double bonus.
Here’s the link I forgot to drop earlier. http://www.magapill.com/

Brian
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Brian
7 years ago
Reply to  shak

Let’s be honest.

Bush 43 inherited Enron and a dot.com bubble burst. Then 9/11.

Obama inherited the collapse of a fraudulent housing bubble system that went worldwide.

Trump inherited rising employment numbers at the get go.

Guest
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Guest
7 years ago
Reply to  Brian

A little more honesty would be better. Bush inherited deregulation of the financial sector with the Graham-Leach-Bliley Act that Bill Clinton (the historically worst US President) signed. It was supported by the Democrats and Republicans equally and lead to the housing mortgage debacle.

Obama did inherit the Great Recession mess but that idea that business would have responded with the same enthusiasm for the economy that they did the minute Trump was elected if Obama was still in office is unwarranted.

Brian
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Brian
7 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Your obviously a staunch party defendant. You imitate objectivity pretty well, but really not THAT well.

You just twisted a patently non- partisan comment into a FOX commentary on Trump and the media.

Use your name already.

Guest
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7 years ago
Reply to  Brian

I’m not a party participant at all. I change my party every time there is a candidate in a primary that I want to vote for. And only that due to the limiting of California voting rules on primaries. Otherwise I just stay an independent.

I also do not care whether you think your comment was non partisan or not. It was simply wrong. However regarding the name issue- I fully understand how irritating it is to you to have to read a post before you start throwing out personal insults because it might not be the Guest you want to troll. But think about why that is a good thing for the person you want to troll.

“Out of the night/When the full moon is bright/Comes the horseman known as Zorro!/This bold renegade/Carves a “Z” with his blade/The “Z” that stands for “Zorro!”/Zorro!/The fox so cunning and free!/Zorro!/Who makes the sign of the “Z!”/Zorro! Zorro! Zorro! Zorro!” Or in this case, “The Guest” so cunning and free!

Brian
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Brian
7 years ago
Reply to  Guest

It was exactly right.

Your expansion on my comment doesn’t make mine wrong.

I could expand on yours, it would just mean that were discussing it more in depth.

Interestingly you bring up trolling and names.

I use my name, and your comment volume is outpacing mine. So….I think you’re projecting with your sarcasm.

It does you no service to be confused with idiotic remarks by other “Guest”.

Stephen Crane
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Stephen Crane
7 years ago

Thank you Raelee. I am a friend to your comments, observations and general point of view. These assumptions made by people, (even me sometimes), speak of ignorence of the whole of things and of people.
This kind of general assuming about groups is not uncommon, but no less unfair.
It is too easy.
Thanks for taking the time, energy and thoughtfulness to write this enlightening article.
Community includeds all, like it or not.

Steve

Really?
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Really?
7 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Crane

And yet without taking off the rose tinted glasses when looking at who is in these places and why, nothing can really change in their lives. What is unbelievable is the contempt heaped on those who don’t screw up their lives when they say how that supposed “luck” consistently was applied to their lives while simultaneously honoring those whose actions are a monument to failure of the most ordinary actions. Apparently because the normal amount of success that 99% of the world manage is assumed to be random good fortune. Like the world really works to repeatedly involutarily targets only a select few with unearned evil while shedding random munificence on the majority. Why that strange phenomenon even applies in the same family where one child bemoans how everyone picks on them while their sibling just roll their eyes.

Without the insistence on making people feel good about their failures, they might get the help they need rather than the sympathy they want. Maybe the ones who have succeeded might have a better handle in success and should be heard.

Deanna Beeler
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Deanna Beeler
7 years ago

Houseless columnists deserve editors as well as housed ones!

Kym Kemp
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7 years ago
Reply to  Deanna Beeler

Unfortunately, no money for either.

Momofmayhem
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Momofmayhem
7 years ago

As I disagree with her numbers of drug abusers I appreciate that she is taking time to write about a problem. Whether it is within my opinion or against it is still bringing light to a situation that has gotten way out of hand. Not all homeless are drug addicts not all steal but the majority that are abusers or “tweakers” (and imho a tweaker can be anyone who is blatantly high) do steal and do commit crimes to pay for their habit. They do take advantage of the Health Dept and the Dept of Health & Human Services. If anyone provided basic living needs to you at no cost so you could continue to get high and even use a clean needle every time even though you throw those needles in the streets to possibly injure a healthy non abusing community member, you would, if that was your mentality, you would. I was homeless as a child, my mom was a tweaker. We lived on the south Jetty, before they cleaned it up. I have no sympathy for people who use or who are homeless because of their drug abuse. -not sorry-

anon
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anon
7 years ago
Reply to  Momofmayhem

We all have a story that needs to be told. When people listen, we can heal. I wonder what your mother’s story was. I’m sorry you had to endure that life as a child.

just me
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just me
7 years ago

Thank you for your writing . It is great to see a viewpoint from someone who is living here , experiencing being homeless in this county . I look forward to your opinions on further subjects
Try to stay dry and warm as possible .

THC
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THC
7 years ago

I had to work a full-time job building fancy mcmansion for Rich dope Growers and save up for 8 years to afford to take last summer off to build an addition by my self, onto our home so that my three kids could have their own bed rooms. I made deals with several people that got abatement notices, to tear down and recycle their drying sheds. This is where I got the lumber to do it with. Right now my house is warm because I spent about a months cutting firewood. I raise a few pigs in the backyard to supplement our food source. I’m now back to waking up at 5:30 every morning to go work 8 hour days and have to drive an hour and a half away from where I live to do so, in a 18 year old truck. Having a life is hard work, no one is going to give you one. Nor is it fair for you to expect the government to take part of my life to give to you. There are some people in this world that were born into the easy life, but chances are their parents or grandparents work their asses off to give them that opportunity. The majority of the people that you consider to be the rich, that you want to put a 70% tax on, work their asses off to get to where they’re at. It’s not fair for you to want to take from them either. And as far as the mega wealthy Elite, the ones that dont even make it on the Forbes 500. If you think they’ll end up paying a dime of these taxes you are delusional. They will bury their money so far into offshore accounts this country will end up losing Revenue in the long run. Socialism and communism does not work. It has been tried over and over again and has never accomplished anything more than killing millions of people. The only countries that even come close have a monolithic population of native born people and populations under 10 million people. That do not extend their benefits to just anybody who wants to just help themselves to their resources…

Central HumCo
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7 years ago
Reply to  THC

The race advances only by the extra achievements of the individual.
You are the individual. -Charles Towne.

tired of idiots
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tired of idiots
7 years ago
Reply to  THC

Correct! Props to you as an individual.

B Bach
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B Bach
7 years ago

We are all unique individuals who have come into this life with our own individual genetic makeup and our own psychological makeup. Add to that the infinite number of outside influences and circumstances that can affect us at varying stages of our lives/development, which leads me to believe that NO ONE has the right to judge another (whether they are doing the best they can) because it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to “Walk in their shoes!” We are all fallible. We all make mistakes. And we all feel a bit better when someone says “it’s going to be ok, can I give you a hand?”
Maybe for some folks just 1 time will be enough. Others might take awhile. Addiction is a horrible horrible thing! I watched my mom kill herself smoking cigarettes. Emphysema is a nasty way to go. How could anyone “choose” to do that to themselves?! Bottom Line: we are all doing the best we can. My mom did the best she could. I am sad that she couldn’t do better. The road is always a bit easier when we help each other out.

shak
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shak
7 years ago
Reply to  B Bach

My condolences to you and your family for your loss.
If it’s any consolation, non smokers also get emphysema. The main difference is the non smoker is not told to quit smoking, take 2 aspirin and call back in the morning. https://www.everydayhealth.com/copd/copd-diagnosis-in-nonsmokers.aspx

I agree about the judging/not judging others.
I agree with those like S t u b e r (can’t type name correctly or it goes to moderation) who demand action instead of ‘meetings’.

I’d vote yes to zoning a lot where they can pitch a tarp.
I’d vote hell no to robbing hard working people to build state of the art apts. That is up to each individual to achieve through a self determined goal.

Every poster has their own sets of how they’d vote.

Who is willing to tally up the ways and means the community members are willing and able to help? I haven’t seen anyone offer. I’ve only seen props that try to force tax payers to do it one way… taxing more.

We’re tired of the ‘talk’, the ‘propaganda’, the theft of our labor, the theft of our spirit, the theft of our time & money. We’re sick of those ‘in charge’ who only do meetings but never tally solutions that they themselves don’t agree with. We’re sick of hearing there’s only ‘ONE’ solution which usually consists of raising taxes.

I guess I do like to judge.
Get over it.

Fleetheptsd
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Fleetheptsd
7 years ago

Not every homeless is a scumbag druggie thief. Myself and my wife were homeless for a while due to my disabilities before a homeless advacocy group got me into the V,A and got me going into their system. Compassion ive found is a skill few possess and sometimes it takes a walk in the other persons shoes to see there side of the same shit sandwich we all take bites from.

Emma
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Emma
7 years ago

I’ve read all the comments and each side has good points. A lot of the comments want you not to judge the down and outs, but aren’t you judging the people who appear to be well off? Some people buy all their clothes at thrift stores, drive an old car that they kept up, live off the money they work for but don’t live beyond their means. On the outside they are judged by what you see, not the work it took to have what you think you see. It appears to me that some people just want to punish those who have a work ethic and have achieved a life they are happy with. Envy & jealousy are the root of the evil. Just the observations of one old lady

tired of idiots
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tired of idiots
7 years ago
Reply to  Emma

Nice comment.

Gratefully clean and sober
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Gratefully clean and sober
7 years ago

Drugs suck. You have to find it within yourself to quit them. I was addicted to opiates for almost 10 years. I ended up homeless and strung out in southern California I got sick and had open heart surgery and was in the hospital for 4 months, on the taxpayers dime. I have been clean and sober for 2.5 years. I did have my mom and a few clean and sober friends that helped me with my living situation in the beginning. I wouldn’t be alive and a productive member of society today if it wasn’t for the help I received. I am very grateful ?. Sometimes people just need a wake up call and some help. Or they die or end up in jail EVERYTIME. Everybody has a choice, it’s not easy AT ALL, but it is possible, and really rewarding.
I guess my point is, that I feel for this woman, and all of the homeless, but she has to decide when her life is worth living again and take control of her destiny, because she is the only one who can.

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7 years ago

People lose housing for many reasons, with poverty being a driving factor for most. You need over a $1400 a month income for most housing including room rentals, plus the deposits and a credit check. Try earning or maintaining credit on that wage. You might earn $1400 at minimum wage full time. Try to live on that. Additionally, several low rent options recently became unavailable due to condemnation or fire damage. Instead of condemnation, maybe look to understand and have compassion for others. It is free.

shak
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shak
7 years ago
Reply to  ...

An ounce of gold buys the same exact things it did over 50 years ago.
Paper money, on the other hand, won’t buy just one of the things gold did over 50 years ago.
Why?
You research and answer that one, then maybe, just maybe, we can finally reach a solution to the real problem instead of adding to the problem by demanding more and more paper money.

Trillium Hummingbird
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Trillium Hummingbird
7 years ago

Thanks, Raelee, for a fascinating exercise in eliciting comments of every size, and on nearly every subject you could think of, including the “value of an ounce of gold”!

I wonder if your innocent little item, which lacked subject and predicate, form and intelligible content, has a peer, where it comes to causing over-comment by deranged bullies, apparent lunatics, and possible drug-crazed shut-ins of every ilk! I, was truly amazed, as always, when a single incendiary remark causes paragraph after paragraph, wild posts followed by possessed rants, and all this, since it’s horribly incorrect to hold the homeless to blame, for, I guess, anything at all!

Thanks for your report! Can’t wait for the next one!

Meanwhile, watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBjXUBMkkE8

If you think you are having a rough time…