Hoopa Valley Tribe Endorses Measure A
Press release from supporters of Measure A:
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Measure A co-sponsor Mark Thurmond received the support of the Hoopa Valley Tribe today. A letter signed by Vice-Chairman Everett Colegrove Jr. stated that the Hoopa Valley Tribe supports “provisions to stop expansion of industrial ‘mega-grows’ and set caps on total acreage and future permits. We sincerely appreciate the goals to reduce the overall cannabis footprint, promote healthy environments and rural communities, ensure public involvement in future decision-making processes and continue to transition the industry away from industrial mega-grows to small-scale, environmentally-minded cannabis farms.”
The Hoopa Valley Tribe also expressed support that Measure A will “disallow new wells that impair watercourses and springs….” The “majority of cannabis applications in the Upper Supply watershed depend solely on wells as their primary water source.” And further, “We support it [Measure A] wholeheartedly as clean, healthy, and abundant water supplies are at the core of our traditional values. The health of our people and the wildlife we have relied on for sustenance for millennia depends on it.”
Mark Thurmond and co-sponsor Betsy Watson welcomed the support of the Hoopa Valley Tribe, stating, “The environmental needs of Humboldt County and its precious watersheds depend on getting cannabis permitting right. Measure A is a step in that direction and we are honored by the Hoopa Valley Tribe’s strong support. We recognize that, in partnership with Tribal communities, more will need to be done to protect and restore precious natural resources for the present and future health of all beings that call our vast rugged region home.”
The endorsement of the Hoopa Valley Tribe recognizes the value of Measure A in helping to bring back healthy watersheds, rivers, and ecosystems.
Letter from the Hoopa Tribe:
HVT Support for Measure A
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Support measure A! Let the dope growers know who runs the show. Time for a the permit patsies to feel the pain. No sympathy for sell outs.
How is it a sell out?
We took an illegal plant and made it some what legal finally after 89+ years of prohibition.
The opportunity to grow and sell a commodity without the threat of jail is amazing.
Go get legal and do what you love. Grow epic stuff that people can enjoy anywhere.
Cannabis is on the door step for national legalize. The market will open up and Humboldt being internationally known will prosper
Have you not been paying attention? Where did all the money go from the first round of permits? Pay to play, if you can afford it. National legalization will not help Humboldt county. The wholesale price per pound will only drop further. Any one that says otherwise is selling a bill of goods. Other states will produce more, cheaper, and closer to the customers. Humboldt county has been all but forgotten out side the triangle. The consumer is fickle and will choose the less expensive option every time. Remember when Dabs were $150 a gram for the high-end stuff? Do you know how long that lasted? It lasted until the industry caught up and producers learned how to scale up. Now Dabs are $20-$40 per gram. Flower is a thing of the past. The majority of permits holders are there for the money, they will get steam rolled by larger corporations who simply have more capitol and better principles. The kind of people that will over produce just to drive the price down for years in order to consolidate the market. Imagine the audacity of a person who thinks that they will compete on a national level with a company like for example Kellogg’s. I may as well start the permit process to become defence contractor so I can compete with Lockheed martin.
Business people will soon own all the legal cannabis companies in which the dope farmer will simply be an employee.
you do realize that there are many small cereal companies that do continue to sell cereal on a regional and national level, right? Often at a higher price than Kellogg.
According to your, oft repeated, logic humboldt county cannabis should have long ceased to exist. But people are still producing and selling a lot of flower out of these hills.
Thank you for proving my point. On this level quantity wins over quality. It is the same argument with beer, or hamburgers. Anyone can produce a bigger, better burger than McDonald’s, but can they do it cheaper and sell more? No. Hamburgers aren’t going away any time soon, and neither is McDonald’s. Can you produce more cereal cheaper than General Mills can? The point is that Humboldt slice of the proverbial pie is shrinking, not expanding. Federal legalization will only make it worse. If you think the state fumbled the legalization racket, just wait til the feds put their greasy little hands on. It will make state regulations look like childs play.
Humboldt is not now and never was an appropriate setting for the proverbial McDonald’s or Kelloggs of weed.
The point is that this are can and should continue to be home to a number of producers that put out a higher quality product that sells at a premium.
And pretending that national/international legalization is going to eliminate that market is laughable.
In a truly open market there would be ample room for skilled farmers to make a decent living growing top level cannabis flower. And if the county doesn’t fuck it up with something like measure A then that market segment can continue to be an important part of our local economy
You caught my attention.
In your very last sentence, you referenced measure a.
I assume that means you are familiar with its content.
I am not.
The guy below you is trailing off into cereal sales.
I’m curious about this measure a and the ramifications you suggest.
It would be very helpful to voters, like me, who have the option to vote on this measure, to actually know what it is about.
What it proposes.
The county clerk only sends out these pamphlets with a very vague description of initiatives and it would be helpful for people like you, both pro and con, to write articles that Kym can publish, outlining the actual content of the measure, and then giving your point of view, and why.
It don’t kill trees.
It don’t take paper.
Just a kilobyte or two in Kym’s paper.
What a great world we live in! I couldn’t imagine such in my childhood.
There have been a number of letters to the editor that Kym has published from people more knowledgeable than me.
I bet if you go to the letters to the editor section and search “measure A” or “hcri” you’ll be able to find them
Actually you bring up a good example. McDonald’s sells burgers at a loss. They make money on the soda. Just water CO2, and sugar.
Kinda like GlassHouse losing money on flower to sell market share to investors.
Name one please. Not saying your wrong But I go to the store and don’t see what your talking about. I guess if your buying oats from Nieghbors yea ??? Good luck starting a cereal brand. Read the label carefully. I bet a big brand owns it ??Just saying
Locally I know that you can buy Nature’s Path brand cereals, they are a smal privately held company.
And if you’re including oats in your cereal then you can get stuff from Bob’s Red Mill and Azure Standard, both based in Oregon and independently owned.
You use to see in the market for one industry.
1920’s after alcohol prohibition America went from hundreds of breweries to three or four monster breweries.
Then around mid 80’s small craft beers made a huge impact and took a small % of market share.
The people paid more for that extra care in making a small batch.
Cannabis will be no different.
Unfortunately California right now is a bureaucratic monopoly for the big corporations.
So you think nobody can become a businessman if they grow dope.
Your attitude says it all calling it dope.
1st big corporations will only keep going in debt. Do you really think it takes millions to grow a flower?
Humboldt outdoor farmers produce the cheapest product.
Sun and water.
The California market was created for big corporations.
How is that going for them?
Not well.
Humboldt will be just fine when we are not restricted on our sales to California only
I guess this is the exception to your rule?
https://www.sfgate.com/cannabis/article/largest-california-cannabis-farm-glass-house-17924258.php
They haven’t even covered their investment, it will take years to recoup their expenses
They have their own issues, this is one of several.
https://mjbizdaily.com/catalyst-cannabis-lawsuit-accuses-glass-house-brands-of-illicit-activity/
Words from within. “Glass House is Shattering”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abcaCiLZzPw
They’re bleeding money Ed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbOxYDAh0BI
Glass house is the largest in California and they lost $39 million in 2023.
It’s hard to be profitable selling a flower when you are spending millions per year to operate
Expect a press release in a few months. ” Glass house files for bankruptcy, leaves it’s shareholders holding 200 mil in worthless stocks”.
Source of “hops latency virus”.
Glass House Brands gives you lip ulcers
Umm…a few corporate mega-farms will sell the classic “Humboldt-Grown” brand of weed. Maybe you can wash the boss’s Teslas and work in the fields with the illegal immigrants…And yeah- “legalization” was so wonderful for so many here and now we are “free and safe”. Extreme Sarcasm.from me on almost every sentence you wrote…and I’m being extremely honest
Break it down farce.
Why are you afraid of a top heavy corporation?
They are so in debt.
Think about it.
How many 1/8 this do you have to sell to pay the CEO $1million per year?
How many 1/8ths to pay off that $200 million greenhouse you bought.
How many 1/8 to pay the 200 employees to grow in your $200 million greenhouse
Sorry but this is a flower and not a high tech computer
Corporations will fail in the long run in the cannabis industry
How many pounds would a mega corp have to grow to drop the whole sale price to $50 per pound. Their cost of production would be only $25 per pound(not counting packaging and marketing). At that point your artisan “craft” will be worth maybe $250 per. Oh and you will need at least 20,000 lbs per year to stay in the market. If you could some how get the cost of humboldt production down to $100 per. You may just survive long enough to pay state taxes, federal taxes,work mans comp, insurance, employee payroll taxes, fees, fines, the water board, the coastal commission…
After all that your biggest competitor will be big pharma(Pfizer, Moderna, and Merrick). The will not just sit ideally, they will make moves that you never see coming until it’s too late. Tell me again how I debt these companies are? Oh and what are the majority of pharma drugs derived from? Plants.
Show us an example of someone growing flower that cheap?
We have farms currently pushing 100 acres in CA. They are doing everything they can to get costs down to $100 per unit and it hasn’t worked.
Unless there are major breakthroughs in cannabis specific farm machinery it ain’t happening.
I saw it in Oregon in 2018 being produced that cheap. Of course that was pre-inflation. Oh well
And that worked out real well, didn’t it.
That bud is still for sale! GTFO! You’ve typed enough to understand your experience!
You mean all that weed they couldn’t sell?
Biomass can definitely be produced that cheap. But humboldt won’t ever be a player in the biomass market
The problem is, that model produces an inferior product. To keep it running minimum wage is the standard, pesticides are used, and corners a rounded off. Many corporate grows are proving my point. Sales aren’t enough to pay the shareholders, CDFA is pulling product due to contaminants, and workmans comp is levying fines. Do a little research, and I mean a little. You will be amazed at the failed corporate model.
Sorry but you don’t understand that cannabis is a plant.
2016 we already saw 4 billion dollar companies lose everything corna,canopy growth and more.
They bought $200 million dollar greenhouse only to sell them for $20 million six years later.
Big industry can’t produce a pound for $50 and if they did it would be complete shwag.
People with money will always pay for an organic craft product and the price will be $25 an 1/8th.
The farmer and retailer both make a good living
I am fully aware cannabis is a plant. Perhaps you don’t under stand that money is just paper and ink.
Let’s get the weed out of our rural hills and return them to the peace and quiet we enjoyed years ago. There’s plenty of space for commercial row crop operations on flat ag land. The permit distribution has been a graft operation all along, a connection to ease the hillside permits but everyone should be easily permitted on ag land. Vote yes Measure A
I can have any farm in the hill except cannabis.
Cannabis grows amazing in the hills just like wine.
Have you ever been outside of Humboldt? Napa, Sonoma and many more grow acres and acres of wine in the hills.
The issue is size of the cultivation in the hills.
My small farm can’t be seen by neighbors and I get to work from home instead of driving 3 hours to commute to a job
The action to bring the farms out of the hills to AG has been a failure. Every project has been met with an extreme nimby attitude. Look at the sun valley project. It was reduced to a nonviable venture. Same with the Kneeland project. While it’s a great idea and should be considered, in town AG projects aren’t going to happen.
Umm…Sun Valley is in the fog belt. They were dependent on massive lighting to grow their weed…And nobody should be growing with lights if we are truly concerned about climate change. I know- that’s a little factoid people don’t want to acknowledge…
And PGE just went up %13 too. Think of how much of the already slim profit margin that cost will eat up for all the indoor grows. Haha.
Commercial/ Ag rates for permitted grows are much lower than what residential pays. The Ag Rate is just about what other areas pay for residential…8-10 cents/ Kwh. So yeah- basically we are all subsidizing the permitted indoor weed grows. Since that massive debt to Enron is still being paid and the residential customers are the ones paying it.
I am on AG land and in the hills and no it wasn’t easy and very expensive! Measure A is not necessary, to many regs as it is. This will stop only the small and encourage large commercial folks into our area.
drug type cannabis has never been a flat land crop. It is a mountain crop and it always has been
Ok everything you just typed is bullshit. It wasn’t viable in flatland during helicopter and sheriff pick up truck prohibition. It never was viable in Humboldt Bay, but guess what: Humboldt Bay is an anomalous marsh. The Bay’s port/Helping Professional oriented population doesn’t live in a typical County ecosystem.
Humboldt County properties provide their own water. You would be hard pressed to show me another example of California AG that makes it without Northern California water. Even the snowmelt in the Kern/San Joaquin is replaced with NorCal water where the rivers get dried up by withdrawals.
By all your standards, weed is more viable in Humboldt than pomegranate, almonds, cotton in Kern, let alone indoor weed in a warehouse under the SoCal sun.
I have no idea what you’re talking about or if you’re even responding to me at al
I was was a little mean. please forgive me.
Talking about:
“drug type cannabis has never been a flat land crop. It is a mountain crop and it always has been”
Humboldt has flat AG land with water and nice weather. Everyone forgot about all the irrigated apples, potatoes, & hay acres. I was just saying there were other factors keeping weed off good flat land here. Otherwise if water is an issue, it makes more sense here than Salinas, or LA. I was comparing hypothetical weed on a flat in Ettersburg with water, vs. Central Valley tree crops watered with Shasta, Trinity Siskiyou’s water.
Ok then “Hemp” and “Marijuana” only became separate after prohibition. What is considered “hemp” for fiber and seed was artificially limited to low THC strains by social/legal regulation. Flower from a hemp plant grown by George Washington might have got you high. There’s no reason a high THC variant wouldn’t make good fiber. Indeed, I bet growing certain “drug” type cannabis strains would vastly increase hemp SEED yields.
Besides, drug cannabis has been grown on flat farmland for centuries in Lebanon, Morocco, Afghanistan, India, etc. prohibition pushed it to marginal locations.
Drug tow cannabis in all those places you listed had historically been grown on terraces or small flats in the mountains. Not on the large alluvial plains that are typically considered prime crop land.
It is not prohibition that pushed it to marginal land, it is the fact that it grows great on marginal land and the prime land can be better used for more important crops.
Our local flat ag land is mostly not ideal for cannabis flower. It’s too coastal, with summers that are too cool and too humid to produce high quality flower.
It’s got nothing to do with questions of water use, there are definitely ag sectors in this state that are much worse water hogs.
Go inland from Arcata!
That proposal failed upon inception. Thank the nimbys for that. There is also plenty of AG zones in the hills. If you want that changed then the cattle will have to go also.
They’re still using Trinity, Shasta, and Siskiyou County’s water!
How does measure A help anyone trying to permit normal ag land for weed?
May I ask? “Who runs the show”?
According to Tribals Seeds it’s “white collar devils”
The County should sunset clause all industrial grows with no exceptions. Current owners may not sell any industrial grows to new parties. Ban all new ones.
Time to protect the farmers and not Monsanto-Bayer Pharma and it’s cousins. Enough.
That’s a fine idea but that needs to be done inside the Board of Supervisors chambers.
Vote March 5th for the person you think could get that done and not on measure A.
Vote no on A
Vote for Brian D Roberts if you want to protect the small farmer
Good to see a responsible organization realizing the merits of this initiative.
Has Hoopa’s problems been from illegal grows, or permitted?
Are there any cannabis cultivation permits in Hoopa?
Will measure A change anything in Hoopa, or is the Tribal representative…kinda projecting different concerns onto a nothing burger?
If I’m not mistaken, Hoopa doesn’t allow any cannabis farming.
Nether does Blue Lake, Ferndale, Fortuna or Trinidad.
https://cannabis.ca.gov/cannabis-laws/where-cannabis-businesses-are-allowed/#county-view?county=Humboldt&activity=Any%20cannabis%20business
And yet half of those homes are occupied by growers, or being rented out by growers. They just commute.
Then what’s stopping anybody in those places from simply hiding an indoor grow? How extensively have you prowled around those dairies? Hmm? Nice AG rate 3 phase drops all over!…just tuck that snap up shirt into your tight pants!
Well, I can’t blame them. The white man literally tried to destroy the Native American culture with alcohol, in addition to many other tactics. Of course they would want any sort of drug or intoxicant off their land. Although, I believe banning alcohol and meth would do much more for their tribe and their community than banning Cannabis.
The overregulation, high fees, discrimination, ignorance, and hypocrisy in the cannabis industry would be completely laughable if it wasn’t so devastating to the people involved. This whole program has been a shit show failure from the start. Free the weed!
On one hand, it blows my mind to see how sheltered and in their own little world people are up here. Almost completely oblivious to how things work in other states, cities, and communities. And then, on the other hand, I’m not surprised at all. Humboldt is going to fall to the wayside. It’s like people here are resisting switching from a black-and-white TV to a color TV because they are resisting change and insisting that the way things have always been is the best way. Meanwhile, the rest of the world is using flat screens and 4K ultra HD
Hey- Some of us are here because we don’t even like to watch TV at all!! I prefer to program myself w/ nature and books- not GET programmed by corporate marketing psych-ops…
Please excuse my painting with such broad strokes. Of course I know there are exceptions. I don’t really watch TV myself, my stupid phone is bad enough. I intentionally moved into the mountains of Humboldt to get that nature programming too. You can only get that channel in certain places. Like one of my old buddies used to say, you can learn more about life and yourself by laying on your stomach watching bugs crawl through the grass then you can by watching TV.
“ supports “provisions to stop expansion of industrial ‘mega-grows’ and set caps on total acreage and future permits. We sincerely appreciate the goals to reduce the overall cannabis footprint, promote healthy environments and rural communities, ensure public involvement in future decision-making processes and continue to transition the industry away from industrial mega-grows to small-scale, environmentally-minded cannabis farms.”
Yes- I am just repeating this. With possible federal reclassification of weed we will most likely see corporate consolidation and massive expansion. Many of the local permitted farms are counting on selling out to these corporate interests the moment they get a decent offer. THAT is the secret agenda they do not want you to know about. THAT is why they are lying and whining so hard about Measure A…Do no not fall for their game…
I say bullshit people and small farms are trying to feed their family
Secret agenda pffft. I just choked on my beer. But seriously aliens just landed outside I gotta run.
Hoopa should focus on cleaning up the trash in hoopa.
Speed freak hoopa valley full of drugs abuse and murders, let’s listen to them. They just want less county revenue so they have less Humboldt county police presence busting the drugged out community. This is the clear motive of the support of this.
By approving this initiative you will prevent future grant funding for environmental improvements for Cannabis properties. As this initiative will not only restrict but also strip the ability of Humboldt cannabis farmers from doing any environmental improvements. Currently Dept Fish & Wildlife has earmarked millions of dollars available to Licensed Cannabis Farmers for environmental improvements to waterways and roads. But, a vote of yes on Measure A will allow other rural areas outside of Humboldt to get the environmental improvements funding and boost their local companies business opportunities which will positively impact their economies. A vote of yes will end up with more people not able to make ends meet here locally, no State Agency grant funding, and no cannabis infrastructure work for contractors.
A vote of yes will take away a farmer’s competitive edge and make them forfeit all but one license per property. This means a farmer will be able to grow up to 10,000 square feet of cannabis cultivation but he will no longer be able to hold a transport license to drive it to off his land to have processed or sold. If they are licenses to process (trim), this too would have to be forfeited. These and other restrictions in Measure A will force SMALL Farms out of business, sites will be abandoned and the opportunity to fund environmental projects with grant funds will not be available. Keep in mind, illegal cannabis cannot be regulated. We are 8 years into regulations and while not perfect, positive cumulative impacts to the environmental have been made on the backs of cannabis farmers in Humboldt.
Having a tribal leader sign an endorsement for Measure A on behalf of Hoopa creates a hurt in my heart as a Native American. Please Mr. Colegrove, while I do not ask for a retraction, please take a deeper look at this initiative very privately, do the right thing for our land and waterways; vote NO on Measure A. Do it for your people’s future.
The mention of Supply Creek watershed in your letter was alarming as despite many said attempts from County Planning Department to contact Hoopa for input prior to being scheduled for Planning Commission approval, none was provided when the Commission approved these projects October 2023 (just a few months ago). It was stated during the Commission Meeting that all research performed regarding the water table showed no significant impact on the water systems of the Tribe. So, I am confused why an opportunity to speak against the approval of several Supply Creek projects directly impacting your watershed went unaddressed, but then to take up a position to impact the entire County, you publically speak up and endorse a poorly written imitative.
I almost feel with an endorsement page as robust as Opponents of Measure A is so lengthy (https://opposemeasurea.com/about-our-coalition/), that you were targeted by the authors of the initiative and maybe you just bought into the “No Big Ag” and “No new wells” taglines without looking at the actual impact of this initiative passing. Again, check your research and do the right thing come election day.
Thank you, A very concerned Native American cannabis professional who will be impacted beyond existence if Measure A passes. I will give you a call in a few weeks to check if you have any questions for me
I got the “Gotcha” question about processing during an inspection. What percentage of weed in Humboldt is “processed” off site by a third party? How many take whole plants? What is processing? Can you cut off water leaves? Cut branches? Dry the plant?… How many companies planning to do processing/distro in 2017 are still in business?
Are you allowed to bale your own hay? Milk your own cows?
The reality that permits are sliced up where you can cultivate, but not “process” or sell without a third party distributor, even with a micro permit of under 10,000 square foot grandma-tomato-garden sized grow, shows how silly and overwrought, and self defeating existing regs are. That’s why people hate Measure A. That’s why people growing unregulated indoor in LA with DIESEL GENERATORS are doing ok while we suck ass up here. ‘A wouldn’t affect me that much, but it’s a proxy for all the ridiculous State and County hurdles. I’d vote for it if it actually helped me as a small weed farmer.
Link not working in above post: try this one:
https://opposemeasurea.com/about-our-coalition/
Measure A is absolute trash. This was designed to destroy the cannabis industry in Humboldt, especially the small farms.
Hoopa knows for a fact no new permits are allowed in the three creeks water shed, regardless of size. HCRI will do nothing to change that. In fact, The HCRI would PREVENT farms from reducing there impact on the watershed by not allowing an ” expansion” for more water tanks.
Humboldt County Planning Commissioner Noah Levy stated:
“Cannabis is [already] subjected to the most stringent water protection of any agricultural crop in the state.”
Betsy Watson and the proponents of Measure A intentionally misrepresented the HCRI and lied to get signatures. This will ruin the lively hoods of many small farms who are trying to live off there land and support there families. Not one single small farm in Humboldt supports the HCRI for a reason.
VOTE NO ON MEASURE A!
You are making these statements without anything to support your alternative facts:
“Measure A is absolute trash. This was designed to destroy the cannabis industry in Humboldt, especially the small farms.”
Humboldt County Planning Commissioner Noah Levy stated:
“Cannabis is [already] subjected to the most stringent water protection of any agricultural crop in the state.”
https://lostcoastoutpost.com/2023/nov/14/measure-forum/
How much is Private Consultant Noah Levy being paid by Humboldt County Growers Alliance to advocate for them?
Absolutely ZERO
Here is where Levy made that statement you quoted, without one source document to back up his statement:
Regarding water usage, Levy said cannabis is subjected to “the most stringent water protection of any agricultural crop in the state,” and in Humboldt County, the Planning Commission went above and beyond those rules “to require hydrogeological analysis of anyone relying on a well to confirm that they’re not going to be depleting the aquifers that may serve other wells for nearby surface waters, and incentivizing or requiring extra storage and the transition to rainwater catchment.”
Levy handed the cordless microphone back to DeLapp, who urged people to vote “no” on Measure A.
https://lostcoastoutpost.com/2023/nov/14/measure-forum/
Ed voice
Please elaborate why you support measure A.
I am curious because I read the proposal and it doesn’t help or save a small farm in any manner.
So why do you support it?
Who said I “support measure A”? Commentators to this thread post are making comments with nothing to support their claim. I have read Measure A and all the pro and con papers leaning one way or the other. And what I do not find, is when the opposition claims:
“This was designed to destroy the cannabis industry in Humboldt, especially the small farms.”
How specifically was it “designed to destroy… small farms”?
Have you read this https://lostcoastoutpost.com/2023/nov/14/measure-forum/
The people in opposition could not or would not provide any facts or documentation to support their claim.
And, even after HCGA and growers filed suit, in court, opposing Measure A, it did not get very far:
https://lostcoastoutpost.com/2023/dec/15/judge-denies-effort-keep-measure-humboldt-cannabis/
It does destroy small farms.
It requires a cat 4 road for all permits and not those over 10,000 sg ft
Majority of Southern Humboldt is on a private dirt road and not a cat 4 road.
We would basically being telling those already in the system to never change or upgrade because you would have to start all over again. It took me six years to get a permit.
I think Humboldt messed up bad but his measure isn’t the answer.
Measure A is a juicy nothing burger.
In hindsight the proponents of A should have dug into the State’s 1 acre cap
I’m all for a 10k sq. ft. limit…
IF we also limit tree crops for export, grown with NorCal water in the SoCal desert.
IF we quit granting Saudi alfalfa exporters discounted Colorado River water..
IF we require your Arcata Airbnbs to capture, convey, and store all their profit making water instead of using Mad River water. (and don’t forget permitting! You’ll need two permits from the Waterboard, & one from CDFW, to take water, and one more permit to let water run off your rental property. Fair is fair. Get used to running a business, right?)
Can we remove all the legacy modifications to Jolly Giant, and Jane’s creeks? The property owners will need to pay for their own abatements.
If you had a permit, you would understand this Ed. Sometimes there isn’t research or documents showing abuse of power immediately after or when is happening, it usually takes a while for details and reports to come out. We had to sign away property rights in order to acquire permits. The county limits the number of permits in each watershed based on water data. I have to annually report how much domestic water I use, from a well that has nothing to do with Cannabis. I have to get a retroactive grading permit for my 40 year old pond, Which has nothing to do with Cannabis. I have to pay the water board annually(a fee, which has increased for the last couple years). Which doesn’t really make sense because year after year our farm is only more organized and well put together, thus being less of a threat to the environment. I have to report how much rainwater I collect every month, and how much I used to irrigate every month. I had to give them the dimensions of my house because I use the roof to catch that water. There’s criteria pertaining to how and where I can store my water. There’s regulations on where I can store my fertilizer (because of potential threat to water ). I have to report how much fertilizer I use by weight and nutrient content. We can be fined thousands of dollars for having trash or materials too close to a water course, which is not the case for the average property owner(look at all those junkyard properties right on the creek along one01 before Willits). Are you familiar with those ranchers up by Shasta who knowingly defied the water restrictions and opened up the floodgates? One fine was assessed to that whole group of people, and they only paid about 50 bucks apiece. I can’t remember specifically off the top of my head, but that would’ve been a five or $10,000 fine for a cannabis farmer. I have to be 100 feet from all water courses, including class three seasonal flow ditches. If I wanted to have a pig farm up here, I wouldn’t have to pay the water board at all and I could put it right out in the open spanning three or four water courses and they couldn’t do shit about it. Our farm is in the headlands of a watershed, and my neighbor grazes cattle through six or seven class three water courses, eroding the banks and defecating in the water. Oh, and I almost forgot about CDFW and their nitpicking attitude on water with 1600 permits and the attachment E extortion fee. So yeah, Cannabis Is the most over regulated crop you can grow right now.
And yet, you knew all about this before you filed for your permit right? False equivalencies are not the facts. I guess you have never heard of CCOF, if it was easy, everyone would be doing it.
The point is that measure A adds additional regulations on top of the already robust regulation that people did sign up for.
The propents assert that their measure is justified by a lack of regulation, but that’s a position that can only be borne of ignorance. Their proposed additional regulations only address any issues caused by cannabis in so far as they undermine the viability of any cannabis industry to exist in the county.
Says the community that lives off the government dollar
https://www.history.com/news/californias-little-known-genocide
https://calmatters.org/commentary/2019/08/indian-genocide-apology/
I pray for the Hoopa people. Their valley is such a beautiful place in the Two Rivers canyon.
I would like to see them go back to be a no grow zone. Plenty of places to grow out of the valley.
The do not allow cannabis on the reservation.
I will be pulling out all my resources and funding I usually put aside for the Hoppa area. Sad to see them come out against the small farmers many of which have spent countless millions in the Hoopa community.
Boycott Hoppa at this point
Wow, you want to “Boycott” a people, who have the right to their own opinion, who since the Spanish colonization, California Gold Rush and Manifest Destiny, were hunted, killed and chased off their land by white settlers. That’s awfully white of you…