Transient Deaths Increase in Winter 2023 as Eureka Looks for Emergency Shelter Site

Women hold signs with photos of the deceased.

In January of this year, women hold signs with photos of Jestine Green, a former Southern Humboldt woman, who died after taking shelter in a Eureka dumpster. [Photo by Ryan Hutson]

In Humboldt County 10 homeless individuals died in the first two months of the year, compared to three in the same time period last year – and none of those 10 have been determined to be caused by exposure, despite the ongoing winter storm surge and some of those deaths occurring outdoors.

Extreme weather complicates life for those on the fringes of the housing crisis, not only exacerbating negative physical conditions for those with health concerns experiencing homelessness, but also adding to their level of hardship overall. When suicide rates increase and depression sets in during the winter months and around holidays, challenging weather can sometimes be the tipping point for a person in desperate need of security. 

As Humboldt County continues to wade through an extra cold, extended winter with some areas around the Humboldt Bay region dropping into unusually frigid low temperatures close to sea level, and seeing unrelenting snowfall at higher elevations, the locally unhoused population is particularly vulnerable as immediate shelter and temporary housing is hard to come by. Harsh winter weather can have deadly effects on the human heart, so much so that doctors advise that people with heart conditions such as high blood pressure or heart disease avoid exposure to it.

CAN A CHILL REALLY KILL?

Doctors have known for years about the risk that cold weather puts added stress on the heart, and studies of heart health continue to show a link between cold weather and adverse heart health developments like blood clotting and in some cases, full cardiac arrest. Because cold temperatures cause blood vessels to constrict, and become more narrow in order to conserve body heat by minimizing heat loss from the blood and help regulate the body’s normal internal temperature, one’s blood pressure increases. 

The National Institutes of Health, as well as the American Heart Association, UC Health, and Banner Health among others, all assert that the connection between cold temperatures and mortality rates from heart attacks are found to affect most people, but are particularly concerning for at-risk heart patients. For example, if a person with pre-existing heart disease becomes hypothermic, and the body temperature has fallen below 35 degrees Celsius or about 95 degrees Fahrenheit, the body can’t produce enough energy to keep the internal body temperature warm enough, and this can exacerbate the strain on one’s heart and entire cardiovascular system. Doctors also acknowledge that adding into the big picture the stress and anxiety which shadows every homeless community member compounds negative health impacts during the harshest of outdoor conditions. 

As explained by Dr. Will Baker, a cardiologist with UCHealth Heart and Vascular Clinics, symptoms of hypothermia include a lack of coordination, mental confusion, slowed reactions, shivering and sleepiness – all of which can compound heart-related health concerns in cold weather, and can lead to death in extreme cases.

In addition to the unusually cold temperatures plaguing the North Coast recently, high winds, snow and rain also can steal body heat. The American Heart Association (AHA) explains that wind combined with cold is especially dangerous, because it removes the layer of heated air from around your body. “At 30 degrees Fahrenheit in a 30-mile per hour wind, the cooling effect is equal to 15 degrees Fahrenheit. Similarly, dampness causes the body to lose heat faster than it would at the same temperature in drier conditions,” according to the AHA. 

A graphic from the 2022 Point In Time Count reflects a total of 756 “Chronically Homeless” people, defined by the department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) as “an individual with a disabling condition or a family with a head of household with a disabling condition who has been continuously homeless on the streets and in shelters for 1 year or more, or has experienced 4 or more episodes of homelessness totaling at least 12 months on the streets and in shelters in the past 3 years.” 

A graphic from the 2022 Point In Time Count reflects a total of 756 “Chronically Homeless” people, defined by the department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) as “an individual with a disabling condition or a family with a head of household with a disabling condition who has been continuously homeless on the streets and in shelters for 1 year or more, or has experienced 4 or more episodes of homelessness totaling at least 12 months on the streets and in shelters in the past 3 years.”

Humboldt’s winter weather has been particularly troubling for the homeless community, which is spread across the county between rural enclaves and more urban areas.  Roughly 80% of those people are considered “chronically unsheltered” and making do outdoors this winter. The city of Eureka alone claims 500 unsheltered homeless people on any given night, within city boundaries. 

While the county Coroner’s office often does routine autopsies of individuals who pass away by unknown or suspicious circumstances, an autopsy report does not reflect the “manner” or reason for a death – which would generally be determined by a deputy coroner as either homicide, suicide, natural or accidental – as opposed to the medical “cause of death” which is established by an autopsy performed by coroner with an MD. Essentially, determining the “how” of a person’s death came about is noted on a death certificate, but not on an autopsy report. 

INCREASED MORTALITY RATE 

The county has experienced a general uptick in deaths across the board in the past year or more, according to feedback from the county coroner’s office, and that includes homeless, or deaths of transient individuals without a discernible address or residence. Since January, at least 10 people have died in various circumstances, while being homeless and unsheltered, or perhaps in their vehicle (collision or not), compared to three in the same two month time period last year.  An increase in fentanyl use has been noted as a possible factor in this increased mortality rate, however, has not been found as a factor in the three cases reviewed and discussed below. 

Several of this year’s transient deaths were of people who passed away on a night where wind, rain, and bone-chilling cold had conspired with Humboldt’s lack of emergency shelter facilities in a tragic and perhaps preventable turn of circumstances.  Within this at-risk population, the first to die this winter was in December, and so is not included in the list of 10 homeless deaths this year.  The woman passed away with her small dog by her side at a makeshift tarp-tent combo out in the elements was a familiar face to Arcata’s police officers and City Hall staff, because the woman slept on their stoop nearly every night for the past year or more. 

On December 5th, Nancy Ann Barnes was found by city staff in the morning, and pronounced dead at the scene. Barnes’ small furry companion would have barred her from entry at Eureka’s Rescue Mission and at Betty Chinn’s facilities. Her death was not considered suspicious according to Arcata Police Chief Ahearn, and at that time prior to any autopsy, was widely thought to have been negatively affected by the drastically cold weather that rolled in that week.

As explained by a staff member at the county coroner’s office, generally speaking, a death is not likely to be attributed to “exposure” when there other identifiable sources to blame, such as a heart attack, or an overdose – so, while exposure to the elements may have been at play, it is not necessarily listed as the cause of death, or even as a contributing factor. 

File folder containing confidential autopsy reports. [photo by Ryan Hutson]

File folder containing confidential autopsy reports. [Photo by Ryan Hutson]

A review of Barnes’ autopsy report provided by the county Coroner’s office confirmed that Barnes expired within “hours” due to acute Myocardial Infarction (another way of describing a heart attack, or a cardiac arrest), in combination with a history of heart disease. Her toxicology screening was clean – no alcohol, cannabis, or any other controlled substance was detected. The manner of death noted on her Death Certificate is listed as “natural” rather than as unintentional, suicide, or homicide. 

As noted in our earlier article on Barnes’ death at Arcata City Hall, an Emergency Shelter Alert was issued for the Humboldt Bay region regarding December 5th and 6th, stating “an outdoor low temperature is expected to be as low as 30 degrees” and that “the National Weather Service reported a low of 43, and a lot of rain, over 1.25 inches in the Arcata Area,” on the evening of Sunday the 4th.  

For people with a relatively healthy cardiovascular system, this cold-weather constriction shouldn’t cause any real problems. However, for those people who already suffer from coronary artery disease, the cold “may lead to a blockage in the artery, which could cause a heart attack,” explained doctor Richard N. Fogoros, MD, who is a retired professor of medicine, and is board-certified in internal medicine, clinical cardiology, and clinical electrophysiology. 

Dr. Fogoros details how cold temperatures can cause a heart attack, particularly for a person already diagnosed with heart disease, and in the case of Nancy Barnes, perfectly articulates her condition as reflected in the autopsy report done by the Humboldt County Coroner.  “For those with coronary artery disease,” wrote Dr. Fogoros, “cold temperatures can trigger episodes of cardiac ischemia (when the heart muscle doesn’t get enough oxygen). This can cause episodes of angina, when the heart doesn’t receive enough blood flow, or even heart attacks.” 

A small ring of rose petals is laid in remembrance of Nancy Ann Barnes the morning after her death at Arcata City Hall in December. [photo by Ryan Hutson]

A small ring of rose petals was laid around tiny flowers placed to form a heart in remembrance of Nancy Ann Barnes the morning after her death at Arcata City Hall in December. [Photo by Ryan Hutson]

In the context of Barnes’ death in Arcata, there was a rather drastic drop in outside temperatures on December 4th and 5th, the morning she was discovered and pronounced dead. It is reflected in the coroner’s report that Barnes was dressed, and that “the body of the decedent had been found in the morning, within a sleeping bag, clothed and situated on the steps of City Hall.” Her jacket was described as a “light cold weather type jacket,” and noted that Barnes appeared to be “older than the stated age of 57 years,” and that she appeared to be “well-nourished,” noting that the body’s temperature was cold to the touch.  

Since Nancy Barnes died on the steps of Arcata City Hall in December, an additional 10 deaths have been reported in the county between January and the end of February. These are generally characterized as transient deaths, people without a registered address, or identifiable residence. The following unhoused community members are 3 of the 10 counted in the first two months of the year:

  • Jestine Green, a local homeless woman whose death was likely the result of a desperate attempt to seek shelter in an unsafe location, occurred on January 5, 2023 according to an autopsy report completed thereafter. 
  • Emmerson Johnson was found dead in Redway on February 16, 2023 as a result of hanging. According to a friend of the unsheltered homeless man, as reported by KMUD News, his death by suicide was attributed to the intolerable freezing temperatures that week. 
  • A social media post by HHEAL announced a memorial for Peter Roelse, March 7th. Roelse’s death at a bus stop shocked local family member Dottie Russell, who questioned the county’s ability to provide support to those in need during public comment at the city’s meeting regarding how to create a sanctioned encampment in Eureka. 

    A social media post by HHEAL announced a memorial for Peter Roelse, March 7th. Roelse’s death at a bus stop shocked local family member Dottie Russell, who questioned the county’s ability to provide support to those in need during public comment at the city’s meeting regarding how to create a sanctioned encampment in Eureka.

    Peter Roelse was found dead in Eureka on a bus stop bench, on the morning of February 28, 2023. He was another local homeless community member unable to find adequate shelter the night he died. Pending a review of his autopsy report, the cause of Roelse’s death remains to be determined. This autopsy report was not complete at the time of publishing this article. 

In an interview January 14th with Tiffany Laffoon from HHEAL (Humboldt Housing Expertise And Leadership) during a rally for policy reform in Eureka, and protesting the death of Jestine Green, Laffoon said, “she was sheltering in a recycling bin, and got picked up and died in there…” A review of Green’s autopsy report confirms her death was caused by “mechanical-traumatic asphyxia, due to external pressure-compression of the trunk,” and noted the presence of a small amount of methamphetamine and THC with a toxicology screening. No other substances were found.

Reflecting on Green’s death later in the conversation at the time, Laffoon added, “nobody wants to crawl inside of a trash can, that’s not fun for anyone. But this weather has been so gnarly – people have to go wherever they can, and they’re still being harassed and swept away from building overhangs and things, even while the weather is awful.” 

In regard to Emerson Johnson’s death by suicide, Nezzie Wade of Affordable Homeless Housing Alternatives (AHHA) described him as “a very well loved member of the community,” and a said outreach workers knew him as a person who “was a special creature, set wholly apart by his whimsical nature and an endless desire to help others..he was so gentle and caring… but he would give it all away, saving nothing for himself….”

On March 15 at Dean Creek  R V Park there will be a Community Shower Day for currently unhoused campers in southern Humboldt. Wade said, “at the event there will be a time to honor Emerson from 12-1pm. There will be food and all sponsored by Redwoods Rural Health Center and Dean Creek RV Park.” 

On March 15 at Dean Creek  R V Park there will be a Community Shower Day for currently unhoused campers in southern Humboldt. Wade said, “at the event there will be a time to honor Emerson from 12-1pm. There will be food and all sponsored by Redwoods Rural Health Center and Dean Creek RV Park.”

There have been limited shelter options made available across the county apart from the Rescue Mission and Women and Children’s Shelter in Old Town, and Betty Chinn’s village and day center, which has limited availability. In Arcata, for people able to travel about 12 miles north of Eureka via the highway, there is The Grove, an extreme weather shelter operated by Arcata House Partnership.  Arcata’s Extreme Weather Shelter has been up and running since early January in response to this year’s unexpectedly challenging storms, in order to help support unhoused individuals.  

TO CAMP, OR NOT TO CAMP IN EUREKA

Given that Eureka’s municipal code strictly prohibits camping in a broad swath of the city, there are essentially no designated areas aside from those existing facilities where people seeking emergency shelter can find to retreat to in the face of lashing winds and strong, icy penetrating winds. Per the City’s code, it is unlawful and considered a public nuisance to camp voluntarily, occupy camp facilities or “use camp paraphernalia” in, on or under any public property, except as permitted by an exception approved expressly or by Policy adopted by the City Council.  It is also considered unlawful per Eureka’s city laws, whether voluntarily or involuntarily, to camp, occupy camp facilities or use camp paraphernalia in, on or under any public property in a prohibited place any time during daylight hours. 

A bus stop at Sunny & Myrtle Avenue flanks an unused parking lot near a greenbelt area in Eureka, where a person sits with a pile of bundled up belongings. [photo by Ryan Hutson] 

A bus stop at Sunny & Myrtle Avenue flanks an unused parking lot near a greenbelt area in Eureka, where a person sits with a pile of bundled up belongings. [Photo by Ryan Hutson]

Having held a public meeting on March 1 to discuss and troubleshoot possible options for emergency camping sites sanctioned by the city within Eureka’s City limits, hopes were high, but there have since been no takers, according to Eureka’s City Manager Miles Slattery.  In the wake of that meeting and the invitation to create a space in concert with the city, no private property owner has stepped forward to offer a plan or a location for such an encampment site. With the ever-present sentiments of NIMBY (not-in-my-back-yard) vibes factoring into the process, Eureka continues to grapple with the challenge of how and where to meet the moment. 

Mayor Kim Bergel and Eureka’s city council members have yet to initiate a temporary emergency homeless shelter for the Eureka area, although recent deaths of unsheltered community members have drawn some scrutiny from advocates for the homeless community. While the city of Eureka is inviting property owners to enter into a lease agreement with the city in order to develop a city sanctioned, encampment, site, or emergency triage shelter for homeless community members at the street level, stakeholders, and outreach workers would like to see a more proactive, city or county-initiated approach. 

An advocate for homeless solutions, Nezzie Wade of AHHA was worried, but hopeful when reached for comment, saying she was “extremely concerned” about recent deaths outdoors, adding, “and it is commensurate with the extreme  weather. I am always concerned for folks that don’t have a safe place to be. AHHA’s meme is Safe, Warm, Dry first! And we believe that there should be truly low barrier spaces available for people experiencing homelessness. With this weather and the deaths that have occurred this winter, we should all be clamoring for alternative places for people to get out of the weather and more. This is so hard on people and we/city and county could do more to help. It is hard on all of us. We have a declared shelter crisis. We are actively in a crisis- people are dying and suffering. We all see this daily in our communities….”  

Offering her insight on what could be done immediately in attempt to remedy the crisis, Wade wrote, “The city could rent or lease spaces or allow their parking lots (which are slated to eventually become low income housing projects) to be used for an immediate campsite for people who otherwise would be on the street or without a safe place to be. They could just say, we are committed to opening this space by tomorrow and ask for help. They could offer some general funds… All of this takes energy and effort to arrange and it is doable.” 

In spite of these logistical and social hurdles to progress on the homeless front, at least one potential location is in the process of being assessed by the city in concert with property stakeholders. When reached for comment on the matter, Slattery offered this assurance in regard to looking for a location suitable for accommodating a homeless encampment or safe parking/camping area, responding via email, “We have been looking to do so for years, and continue to do so.” 

AHHA’s Nezzie Wade attended the city’s sanctioned encampment workshop earlier this month, was dissatisfied with the approach of relying on a private property owner to offer up space for such an undertaking. Wade explained, The City could and should open up spaces and then seek community support from all the players, including those actively experiencing homelessness.. Seriously, there are a lot of great ideas and, yes, it takes money but there are better alternatives that we keep not implementing because of the incompatibility of the money and rules about shelter and housing. We need to focus on what people need and can do/want for their lives and how and what we can do to provide immediate solutions and not have the barriers that government imposes that make them undoable. City needs to commit and take the initiative by making space available.”

Promising to keep us apprised, Mayor Bergel wasn’t at liberty to discuss any developments currently in the works until the details are hammered out, but did say that if and when an emergency shelter space is configured, it will be “so exciting” and that she looks forward to informing the public of any transitional, ground-level temporary housing or encampment accommodations.  

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Mike Morgan
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3 years ago

This is a difficult subject as many have strong opinions about why they think people are homeless and what should be done.

I’m a fan of rounding them up, sorting them out, sending the mentally-ill to care facilities until they’re OK again, letting the drunks and druggies “dry out” in a medically-supervised work farm for 30 days, and giving all of them the training/work they need to find a place to live that’s not degrading, unsafe, and unsanitary. That might mean hooking them up with a County “jobs” program or giving them a bus ticket “home” (if they choose). Once (not once a year or once per County). And if they don’t get the hint, then sending them to a State facility for whatever their needs are (psychiatric help or criminal incarceration).

I don’t mean we send them to a hospital like that in One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest, or a prison camp as in Cool Hand Luke, or anything like that. But we demean ourselves and our communities if we allow people to abuse themselves and property rights the way we have been doing. Churches, Synagogues, and Mosques—as well as some secular organizations like Lions or Rotary—would probably step up to help as they already have benevolent ministries.

We should indeed respect the rights of the homeless. And we should require them to respect the rights of others and to obey the law. It’s a two-way street. And we don’t want it littered with needles or human feces.

Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Morgan

Thank you Mike. I am in complete agreement with you. There is a rule that a person cannot be committed to any kind of a mental institution without their permission. There is also another rule that says anyone who can’t care for themselves can be committed under the Implied Consent Rule. The mere fact that a person is living in a dumpster and eating garbage should be a good indication that they can’t care for themselves.
The movie One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest was the tipping point for closing the California state hospitals. Regan closed them with the idea that mental problems should be dealt with at the community level. It didn’t happen.
I find it ironic that the people that died lately were begging for help, but were either denied that help or “didn’t qualify”. In most cases, the only friends that some of these folks have are their pets. Any help for them should include their pets. It will be found that almost all of them will accept help if they know that help will include their pets. That would be a major leap toward solving the problem.
You are also correct in that we don’t deserve to have this problem forced upon people that are trying to be good members of society.

Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
3 years ago

My Italic font changed when I posted. Ain’t technology wonderful?

ricky
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ricky
3 years ago

implied consent law? that sounds about like something old “gimme a beer” Kavanaugh might have said gave him the right to assault Christine Blasey Ford.
there is a grave disability component to the code that allows people to be committed for 72 hours. however, mental health won’t hold people on that element if they still have the capacity to seek food from a trash can.

Jeffersonian
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  ricky

Your comment is a political non sequitor and shows your bias. Implied consent has been a part of the law for years. The 72hour hold has as well and represents the calif. legislature’s attempt to deal with mental illness. Has nothing to do with Kavanaugh. You are as ignorant as Schumer.

Donald
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Donald
3 years ago

Help stranded cattle,refuse to help homeless pets…..what?

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Donald

Right…???

So if the guy was committed against his will, what would become of his dog…???

Why it would be sheltered, of course…

You see, the only reason that dog wasn’t sheltered, was because the dog had a human…

So dogs with humans won’t be sheltered either…

Maybe that is what needs to be changed…

If the people shelters won’t allow people with pets…

Then…

The pet shelter needs to allow pets with people…

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thbc
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thbc
3 years ago

Reagan decided it would be best to smash the separation of church and state, and care for the mentally ill would be done by funneling public money to religious organizations, who would then provide care with even less supervision than there was with the public mental health facilities.

Jeffersonian
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  thbc

And the Democrats have done better?

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  thbc

No facts and all opinion does not truth make. At least provide a few facts.

WhatToDo?
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WhatToDo?
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Morgan

I find it somewhat sinister that the city is adamant that a private property owner provide a safe space for an encampment. If things get out of control or public health or city codes violated, does that mean the city will crack down on the private property owner to extort fines that they can’t get from the homeless, currently?

Having said that, the state has proposed a budget of $7.2B dollars to tackle the homeless problem. I haven’t looked to see what Humboldt County has budgeted for the homeless, nor what the city of Eureka has budgeted for the homeless, but if our taxes are earmarked to battle homelessness, then by golly, public property needs to be used, not private.

That empty lot next to the Humboldt County Jail would be a perfect spot to bring portable tiny houses in. A shower trailer and porta potties would be centrally located, temporary kitchen facilities could be brought in or they expand the meals the Humboldt county jail food service staff prepares could be increased to feed the residents of this public encampment and public officials and homeless advocates can work in tandem to stabilize the immediate emergency and work to move folks to facilities or permanent housing on a case by case basis.

The county workers can find off site parking the way they force us, John Q Public, to find when dealing with those that make their livings off of our hard earned dollars.

If the state budget indeed passes with $7.2B for the approximately 162,000 homeless individuals in the state, that is in excess of $35k per person.

A tiny house on wheels should cost about $100 per square foot to build. 8×12 = 96 sqft.
That’s $9600. Factor in profit for the builder and let’s say these could be about $16K each.

That’s less than half of the state budget proposal per person.

These elected officials and life long bureaucrats love to tell us what to do while taking our taxes and lining their pockets.

Stand up and tell these clowns they’re going do what WE tell them to do. And I say FIX this fucking problem with the resources you’ve earmarked and fix it NOW!

David
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David
3 years ago
Reply to  WhatToDo?

They have proposed building tiny houses in San Francisco and figured that $15,000 per house would do it. After a year or two of working on it the current price is $100,000 per unit. As long as there is enormous profits on the horizon nothing will ever be accomplished. I personally think that the dish washer and the washer and dryer and sink in the bathroom and the kitchen and the formal dining room and built in tv with Wi-Fi and HVAC might have tipped the scales. But I am only guessing. I bet that anyone with half a brain could get 90% of a tiny home off of Craigslist for very few dollars. Although the tenant would have a 1.4 gallon flush toilet to contend with. That would probably embarrass anyone expected to live like that.

Sam
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Sam
3 years ago
Reply to  WhatToDo?

It’s not a money issue, CA has already spent billion on the problem and it’s only been exacerbated
I’m not so sure that if you house 100 homeless, 100 more don’t show up for the incentive you’ve provided, I would rather get high in a place that’s going to build me a tiny house for free than somewhere that won’t.

thbc
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thbc
3 years ago
Reply to  Sam

It is a money issue. It’s about economic equality, and the sense of hopelessness felt by so many of the working class.

Sam
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Sam
3 years ago
Reply to  thbc

I was referring to money spent by the state. It’s obviously an issue for the individual

thbc
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thbc
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Morgan

Drug addiction is a mental illness. When it comes to getting someone sober chemical physical dependency is a very insignificant factor compared to psychological factors. Basically what I’m saying is the drunks and druggies need to go into treatment too not just a 30-day dry out.

No Joke
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No Joke
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Morgan

There are at least a few totally empty church buildings in Eureka. None of those property owners have stepped up to help. Most churches that are being “used” are vacant 5 or 6 days a week, but they don’t step up to shelter people even one night per week.

The old Lutheran church and school in Eureka has a large sanctuary that could hold single able bodied men, as well as a detached “school” building with four classrooms that could hold 1) single women, 2) women with children, 3) disabled women and 4) disabled men, or some other combination of ages/abilities/genders.

Mega
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Mega
3 years ago

“and none of those 10 have been determined to be caused by exposure“

No shit, there is this drug called fentanyl that’s killing more and more people every year from entertainers and businessmen and especially transients . look there. Next year will probably be milder but fentanyl and drug abuse will still be here.

David
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David
3 years ago
Reply to  Mega

It is surprising to me how many role models for our youth OD on Fentanyl or usually on a cocktail of drugs that includes Fentanyl. I hope they send the right message to the smart ones.

Sandman
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Sandman
3 years ago
Reply to  Mega

We lost 58,000 US citizens during the Vietnam War. sadly. we lost over 100,000 to OD last year, and the 12-20 years olds are seeing the fastest increases in fatal OD in CA. It’s increasing every year. This is a narco bombing campaign against us by the cartels, the Chinese and our politicians who refuse to take action. Public Health and Governor Gavin need to declare this a public health and security EMERGENCY, yesterday. Oh yeah get ready for Tranq, it’s nasty!

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago

Is it possible for anyone to post a picture of Emmerson Johnson…???

R. Hutson
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R. Hutson
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I do not have one. Sorry.

Sam
Member
Sam
3 years ago

What is CA/Humboldt doing to lower the regulatory costs of new home construction?
30% of the build going to useless middleman fees can’t be helping the housing crisis

Mega
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Mega
3 years ago
Reply to  Sam

Don’t hire Baird

thbc
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thbc
3 years ago
Reply to  Sam

As a license contractor, I find your 30% figure to be ridiculous and not true.

We do not have a shortage of homes. We have a shortage of housing inventory. The more homes we build, the more rental income properties the upper class will acquire. Thus keeping housing inventory low and creating an subclass of renters.

thbc
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thbc
3 years ago
Reply to  thbc

Housing inventory only examines houses currently listed for sell on the market.

THC
Member
THC
3 years ago
Reply to  thbc

Are you kidding me? I’ve been building houses around this area for over 25 years. The cost of building has gone up at least three fold with all the new regulations that have gone in effect, coupled with the ridiculous bureaucracy involved and inflation. Not to mention it can take years to get approved by the county in most cases to even get started building, and now even if you get approved by the county chances are you can’t get a power hookup..

Sam
Member
Sam
3 years ago
Reply to  thbc

As a recent home builder (2020), I find my 30% number to be what I spent. What regulation % figures are you seeing?
“The more homes we build, the more rental income properties the upper class will acquire. Thus keeping housing inventory low” – That’s wildly erroneous and not how supply-demand works at all. You’re assuming the demand and money chasing it is infinite, it’s not. Each unit produced and rented/bought lowers demand since there actually is a finite amount of people looking for homes to rent/buy. The closer the inventory gets to the demand, the cheaper homes become. Investors chasing the reward of an asset in high demand is actually an important mechanism that signals a reward for market competitors who help close the supply-demand gap. What is keeping that demand from being met is not the buy/sell participants, it’s the artificial regulation of the supply.

https://www.sbcmag.info/news/2018/jun/30-multifamily-cost-now-comes-regulations

https://www.nahb.org/blog/2021/05/Regulatory-Costs-Add-a-Whopping-93870-to-New-Home-Prices

https://www.constructiondive.com/news/nahb-regulatory-costs-account-for-243-of-new-home-price/418745/

THC
Member
THC
3 years ago
Reply to  thbc

A quick Google search will prove that the 30% figure is not ridiculous. The national average is 24% and California has some of the strictest building codes in the nation. Especially with all the new regulations introduced in 2020 including, solar grid tie-ins, home sprinkler systems, paved parking lots, rain runoff control systems, the list goes on and on.

Jeffersonian
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Sam

Never with the current greenies and over regulators in control

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago

How old was Emmerson Johnson..???

THC
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THC
3 years ago

I mean seriously what do you expect. If you play the system right you can make over $7 more an hour off welfare/ state and federal benefits in California than working a minimum wage full-time job.. What do you think people are going to do if you’re going to pay them more money than someone working their asses off to sit around and do drugs and drink all day? I mean we pay these people more than we do our teachers…. WTF

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago

I wonder if the county could buy the old rays or Kmart buildings in mckinleyville for shelter use. Currently Uhaul has them set up with empty containers waiting for customers that need storage.

During extreme weather conditions- every city building could set up cots in empty meeting rooms. It made me so sad that during the recent meeting at eureka city hall people complained of it being hot and windows were opened- while the persons being discussed were literally freezing on the streets…

The adorni center, healthsport, planet fitness, body tuners, calcourts, the high schools, colleges, or any place with a gym and showers can set up sleeping areas. Parking lots for camping and people with animals can be used and temporary restrooms and showers can easily be brought in.
There are tons of possible solutions and I hope Humboldt county is able to figure it out as soon as possible.

Bozo
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Bozo
3 years ago

One way bus ticket to San Diego. $250 in gift certificates for fast food. Get them out of a County/City teetering on bankruptcy. Cheapest and most humane.

D'Tucker Jebs
Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Bozo

Doesn’t actually solve anything. Just chases people around like nusance pests and makes it harder to provide services that can help. Expensive and inhumane.

Griffon
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Griffon
3 years ago
Reply to  D'Tucker Jebs

The current system is plenty expensive and not working.

Is the answer always just throw more money at it?

D'Tucker Jebs
Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Griffon

I’d rather spend money on solutions. We really haven’t tried that yet.

Griffon
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Griffon
3 years ago
Reply to  D'Tucker Jebs

So the government, spending our money, hasn’t been spending it on solutions.

Go figure…
??

willow creeker
Member
3 years ago
Reply to  D'Tucker Jebs

What solutions do you have in mind? I think San Francisco has tried a lot of ‘humane’ sounding solutions, and they all become a disaster. This isn’t going to be solved by groovy ideas like small homes or taking over vacant buildings. I think we need to do what used to work, mental hospitals or prison, drug treatment for those with any chance of getting better. If you make it a nice place to come, they will come. Do you see any homeless in Montana? No. Sorry, heart warming ideas don’t do anything but make the problem worse. We need politicians with backbone to deal with this problem for the normal hardworking people who don’t want to live in needle land. I am an old school liberal but I completely blame liberal politics for this problem.

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Sam
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Sam
3 years ago
Reply to  D'Tucker Jebs

“Between 2018-2021 CA spent nearly 10 Billion on homelessness”
https://calmatters.org/homelessness-2/2023/02/california-homelessness-spending-report/

Anon.
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Anon.
3 years ago

“The city could rent or lease spaces or allow their parking lots (which are slated to eventually become low income housing projects) to be used for an immediate campsite for people who otherwise would be on the street or without a safe place to be.”

That and or a ticket to San Diego with a voucher for 250$’s of McDonald’s food, at least down south they wouldn’t be exposed to inclement weather.

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Ariolimax
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Ariolimax
3 years ago

Like anti-abortionists wanting nothing to do with unwanted children, civil rights evangelists want nothing to do with people wandering the streets. The word to look up and memorize is anosognosia. People simply refuse treatment, as is their right. It’ll take compelled treatment with ongoing supervision, a loss of some civil rights, to turn the corner on most mentally ill homeless. The mentally ill are a minority of the homeless, but the majority of those trashing support facilities and making them unsafe. So to help those who are simply down-and-out, you have to compel others to take their treatments. This compulsion does not sit well with the public, but this is not a half century ago. Can’t keep blaming Reagan. Modern treatment works. The alternative is more of what we have.

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No one’s guest
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No one’s guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Ariolimax

I am sure you don’t need to hear this, but I am with you.

guest`
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guest`
3 years ago

You really have to have a very hard heart to not be moved by
A middle aged woman dying in a doorway at City Hall/Police Station
Another middle aged woman crushed in the recycling bin she took shelter in
A man who hung himself
A man dying at a bus shelter
And other stories we may or may not have heard.

Yes, I know, drugs, alcohol, dogs, families, crazy people, etc.

Ariolimax
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Ariolimax
3 years ago

Guest,

A very hard heart I have, yes. I told my anosognosian sibling that they would do what I said or I would let them die in the cold on the streets. No apologies, no drama, no sympathy, no more second chances. It got results and I have had them sequestered in a board-and-care taking their medication for 3 years now, 3 stable years after 2 bouts of homelessness punctuated by 2 forced hospitalizations. I frequently remind them how good that warm toilet seat feels each morning in the board-and-care, and of the consequences of crossing me. A cold hearted bully, yes. One with a living sibling.

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Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Ariolimax

“I told my anosognosian sibling that they would do what I said or I would let them die in the cold on the streets.”…

“I frequently remind them…

“…of the consequences of crossing me.”

________________________

Yikes…!!!

A person with “anosognosia”, ( “an inability or refusal to recognize a defect or disorder that is clinically evident”), without even realizing it, could only accuse someone else of being the one with “anosognosia”…

It’s much more common than people realize…

I also, have a sibling in board and care…

Yes, they’re alive, but it’s not much of a life…

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Ariolimax
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Ariolimax
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Actually a psych doctor gave my sibling the anosognosia diagnosis as part of a broader appraisal. Never heard the word before that, too many syllables for a knuckle-dragger like me. So if you are trying to insult me, nice try, please try a little harder next time, remembering my hard heart. If not, I do not wish to question the value of your empathy. Empathy is a good thing. Glad to hear your sibling made it to a stable environment. Not much of a life, you say. I can see saying that, but consider the alternatives.

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Ariolimax

I figured out that it was a psych doctors diagnosis…

It’s not impossible for a psych doctor to also display anosognosia, although it would be impossible, unfortunately for him to then diagnose himself…

(I figure that anyone that wanted to work in a psych ward, would have to be crazy, whether they could admit it or not…)

And it would be no more of an insult towards you, than it would be towards your sibling, which it is not…

My sibling, I say half jokingly, half seriously, is the sanest one of the bunch…

You see, I am no psych doctor, but I figure that my parents display anosognosia, as much as, if not more than, my sibling…

I don’t discount that I may also display it to some greater or lesser degree…

I believe it is very common, much more common than many people realize…

It is a difficult situation, at best, when a family member is homeless, and difficult, or impossible to look after…

And yes, the alternatives are clearly much more difficult, and I am very grateful for the care that he receives, but, that being said, I am glad it wasn’t me that put him there…

The truth is, is that them being there is what makes life for the rest of the family manageable, and it becomes possible to sleep at night, knowing that they are in a stable, sheltered, environment, even if they hate it…

Thank you for your your kind words.

I’m glad your sibling, also made it to a stable environment, like mine did, where it is safer for them, as well…

Give them some credit for their efforts and cooperation…

You see, my sibling has been in and out of bad situations and board and care homes… for over 4 decades… not including his childhood…

Anosognosia is a new word for me, but I’m well versed in what it describes…

Thanks for the vocabulary lesson…

Tough love can be a little stark…

Best wishes to you and your family.

Ariolimax
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Ariolimax
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

You add an important point often left out of the discussion. It’s the devastating impact on a family having to cope with a mentally ill loved one. So rarely given consideration. I was very happy to see NAMI Humboldt in town.

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Ariolimax

Something to also consider, that I believe happens all to often, is when a perfectly sane family member, especially a child, is surrounded by mentally ill folks with anosognosia, be they parents, policemen, judges, doctors, or all of the above, who project their mental illness onto the perfectly sane person, and inflict upon them what are the last things that the sane person deserves, like having them committed involuntarily and force medicated…

It’s totally backwards.

It’s the guilty punishing the innocent…

No one’s guest
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No one’s guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

If you believe your sibling will have “more life” out of the board & care, I suggest you free your sibling to the streets & blame the government for not helping them when they die one of the tragic deaths listed in this article.

Giving a choice, I would rather have a live sibling interned then one homeless.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago

Do you know of what you speak…???

Given a choice, what would THEY rather have…

YOUR choice, concerning THEIR life, would be a selfish one, would it not…???

I have had long to ponder it…

The “choice”…

For the family, to “anguish”,

Or, for the “interned” family member, to “languish”…

Not an easy choice, giving due consideration to all concerned.

And I would never blame the government
for any outcome.

I am very grateful for what they have done…

It’s immeasurable.

Truth Be Told
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Truth Be Told
3 years ago

The problem is untreated mental illness, drug addiction and chronic alcoholism. Letting seriously ill people decide if they need help isn’t a solution. Until people are compelled to get treatment for what’s keeping them homeless it won’t matter how much housing you build.

R. Hutson
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R. Hutson
3 years ago

I am happy to say that the City of Eureka has responded to this situation by working with EPD to open an EXTREME WEATHER OVERNIGHT SHELTER at Lifehouse Church in Myrtletown, from 6PM to 7AM in an effort to shelter those who are currently seeking shelter from storms…
Located behind Myrtle Ave Market, the church is at 2734 Hubbard Lane, in Eureka.

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10 months ago

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