Cannabis Growers Asked to Turn Off Grid Power and Use Backup Generator
Press release from the Department of Cannabis Control:
Today is the hottest part of the heat wave and will break demand records on the grid. We need everyone’s help to conserve energy!
An emergency proclamation has been signed by the Governor due to the extreme heat wave. Starting now, we are asking all cannabis licensees to voluntarily consider reducing their energy load by:
- turning off the lights or any major sources of power
- begin using a backup generator, if safe, and available
Let’s rally, California!
Residents are also reminded that climate change is causing extreme heat. As temperatures soar this week, everyone needs to do their part. To help, you can pre-cool your home in the morning and turn your thermostat up to 78 degrees in the afternoon and avoid using major appliances after 4pm. Visit flexalert.org for more energy saving tips.
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Fossil fuels for the win!
Climate change for the win! Mother Nature bats last. The Florida-sized Antarctic glacier pinch hits last and hangs it out to dry. We can vote for Trump dead-enders and accelerate our violent, bloody demise or tough it out and drag it out to achieve a victory for the American Experiment.
It’s your call, sports fans.
Can’t wait. It’s time for a global sized shake-up.
All that voting going to change to solar cycle?
Global average temperature change is not due to solar cycle. Every single climate model considers solar cycles and it is very clearly not the cause of global climate change.
Every single global climate model has been proved inaccurate over many years, every single one of them.
Amazingly they all run hot, what are the chances of that happening randomly?
We don’t know exactly how much the climate has changed and we certainly don’t know exactly why it has changed. We do know that there were way more heat records set in the 1930s than any other decade even though co2 has gone up quite a bit since the 1930s.
We do know that climate science is corrupt and politicized (as proven by ClimateGate releases of shocking emails from climate “scientists”).
We also know that climate science is driven by the IPCC, the InterGovernmental Panel on Climate Change (which, as the name states, is controlled by governments). The scientists who work with the IPCC are selected by their governments and only global warming alarmists are chosen to work on IPCC reports.
Let’s not forget how precise those covid 19 models worked out.
Check it out! We’re in the Quaternary Glaciation. The 4th ice age in over 4.5 billion years of planetary existence! They only happen once every billion years or so, otherwise the planet is much warmer. Ice caps only exist during an ice age, the default normal for earth is no ice caps. That and the planet is still recovering from a near world ending extinction event that happened a mere 65 million years ago. So keep telling me the planet trying to recover and return to equilibrium is actually us ruining it lol.
Oh little human gnat you are so important and powerful you can influence cosmic systems!
Hey quit telling me it’s raining, I see you squattin up there!
Someone in your tribe thought the American experience was better than the Croat experience. Maybe its home and you can repatriate anytime.
Imagine all the work done by immigrants from all over the world to build this beautiful nation, only to find out that WiFi in every home hasn’t been so good for our happiness.
Things tend to warm up when you are coming to an end of an ice age.
I blame the Chinese
What a load of crap. The DCC just put into the new regulations that cannabis farmers have to phase out generators. Make up your minds!
Haha, you identified the irony of this PR.
//”The DCC just put into the new regulations that cannabis farmers have to phase out generators.”//
Except they didn’t.
Doesn’t code 16306 become effective in January? I could be wrong. It doesn’t necessarily force people to stop using them, but it would further restrict what size of generator you can use and how much/when you can use it. Banning small gas generators, like the size a lot of small farms use, except for emergency situations.
16306 has been in place since the beginning of the 64 regulations.
The only change to 16306 to take effect with the new set of regulations was to clarify that it only (and has always only) applied to diesel generators. Many people (including government folk) didn’t know that the term “compression ignition” applied only to diesel engines. Now they have made that clear. No other changes were made.
From the “Notice of Modifications to text of Proposed regulations:
//”Section 16306. Generator Requirements. Section 16306 contains the requirements for generator use by cultivators. Proposed subsection has been changed to correct the format of the citation to title 17 and to include the commonly used name of “diesel engine” in the definition of generator. This Notice of Modifications of Text of Proposed Regulations Medicinal and Adult-Use Commercial Cannabis Regulations Page 15 of 23 change is necessary to provide clarity regarding terms that mean the same thing and are regularly used interchangeably. The substance of the section has not changed. There were no other changes in the laws related to the proposed action or to the effect of the proposed regulation from the laws and effects described in the Notice of the Proposed Regulatory Action.”//
Notice the sentence : “the substance of the section has not been changed”
I love fossil fuels. Carbon is easily the best source of stored power and it’s how nature intended it! Ever since the combustion engine humans have lived longer and better lives. The refrigerator, water and sewer pumps, airplanes, and automobile and on. So many great inventions and improvements. It’s a great time to be alive!
Indeed… but the plan seems to be reverting back to 18th century power sources. We’ll all be burning dung soon enough.
Nature intended internal combustion engines? Strikes me as a patently dumb statement.
Nature intended the energy stored in carbon to be released at some point. Humans have found various ways to tap it. Ain’t nothing better at providing dense energy than the so called fossil fuels. It’s pretty much been used to build everything we have made as a civilization. I enjoy the benefits everyday.
“A RENAISSANCE, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT “
Fossil fuels make the world turn! Look at Europe right now, they so smart! Tried to move off fossil fuels and looks what’s happened! Diesel power!!!
How is the electrical grid going to function once we are all charging electric cars off it? Especially when it can’t handle a little heat wave like we get every single year?
I suppose that’s true, given that they are the reason for the heatwave.
You don’t know the reason for the heat wave.
How are we all going to have electric cars when there aren’t enough rare earth conflict metals to even build enough electric vehicles for people in the United States?
Just wait until the State transitions to ALL electric. No more small gas engines or vehicles will strain the grid beyond capacity, oh wait, we are already strained beyond capacity. Let me guess, the State will just tax the shit out of gas until we can’t afford to buy it….oh wait, they are already taxing gas beyond our capacity to afford it. Okay, I guess the next step would be to tax electricity so we curb demand. But doesn’t Cali already have some of the most expensive utilities rates in the nation, while buying the vast majority of it from cheaper states with less enviro regs. So how will this all work? I guess we could just outsource our gas productions, electrical production and manufacturing to distant lands and just ignore the fact that we are still reaping the benefit of wasteful polluting industrial consumerism so that we can all feel clean and groovy inside, while remaining the absolute root of the problem. Oh wait, maybe ignorance is bliss….$$$$……as long as you can afford it.
this state is screwed
See Peter Watts “Starfish” and “Maelstrom” (books) for a very entertaining view of what the west coast of north america will look like. N’ AmPac.
Our state reps won’t even say how the lost revenue from gas tax will be made up when they force all electric cars on the public. I don’t know about you but my electric prices have increased +40% over the past couple of years.
How will we power the state without fossil fuels with the current efficiency of solar panels? At the current wattage and output we would need 7 trillion square feet of solar panels to power the state of California. The total area of the state of California is 5.5 trillion square feet.
Where will I live and where will my dog poop if we cover our state and some of Oregon and Nevada with solar panels?
You don’t math much do you. You’re off by several orders of magnitude (~500x).
Since I’m currently knee deep in designing a utility scale solar farm and have all the current numbers handy, I got this.
Currently, solar panels covering the size of Santa Cruz County (the smallest CA county outside of SF) would produce annually about 1.5x the current electric consumption of CA.
Now, do those solve all our energy issues – far from it, but I’m just responding to your claim. I can show my work and it will be correct. You can’t even show your own work, let alone it be correct.
You’re a go-getter aren’t ya.
https://youtu.be/tQPtKNZpfz4
So you just talk shit and show nothing as well?
He’s a smart cookie, like most people who know better, he is just another tool in the tax man’s treasure chest. Compliant with the rules and regulations, and like the kings of a past dying industry, he might do well enough to see his industry sold out to international rock bottom labor pools.
We are climbing over one another to make ourselves obsolete.
Who cares how the 1 percent live, you can’t hide from a hungry and desperate 99%.
It’s getting towards the end of summer and plants are blooming for normal folks.
I have zero sympathy for people that can’t grow pot this time of year.
Normal people with normal pot plants are also in their bloom period. Indoor nurseries are always an energy drain, regardless of the crop. Hours of strong, artificial lighting are expensive and a drain on the grid. Water is the big issue as we find out from sun-growers and Scott Valley Republican ranchers as well. I am no fan of poorly run farms or ranches.
Have a great “zero-sympathy” day!
Growing dope in the hills of Humboldt County made sense when it was illegal. Growing dope in the hills of Humboldt County now makes absolutely no sense. You want to grow profitable drugs, move to someplace flat with water. Oh, and those lovely plastic hoop houses around Honeydew and Petrolia give the area that nice East L.A. ghetto look.
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Petrolia. Definitely the LA of Humboldt. All the Tesla’s, tightly packed bungalows. Little dirt alleys. As we drive by the Vatos on PCP, Peter Coyote comes in with a voice-over
All the indoor growers be putting crazy stress on the grid with a huge carbon footprint but yeah whatever the customer is always right!
LEd lights and new technology make indoor growing much better now than the days of high pressure sodium 1000 watt 💡
Not really. Grams per watt hasn’t changed enough to call it anywhere close to eco. Indoor growing should be banned
Grams per watt are increased by almost 50% with LEDs vs HID. Even more if you considered a reduced need of ventilation.
Prop 64 made it illegal to be able to just put your 6 plants in your backyard. They must be in an enclosed area.
That may be a local requirement where you are, but there’s no such State (64) requirement.
Right on. Sungrown=no watts and a nicer bud.
Indoor doesn’t even have real chlorophyll in the plants. It’s b grade and weak because they have never experienced sunlight for generations.
Supposedly heard new LED can put out more lumens than the sun. I think that’s bullshit but I haven’t researched it at all. Told my buddy to put one of his plants out in full sun to see if it burns. More lumens than the sun should be able to handle sunlight right? Thing cooked in a few hours.
Maybe someone with actual knowledge like JB can inform me on how that works or if my buddy truly is just full of shit.
It’s totally possible to pack enough LEDs in a grow light to exceed the PPFD of the sun at high noon (~2,000ppfd), but no-one in their right mind would do this as over 12 hours it would exceed the DLI (Daily Light Integral) of the plant.
The normal 12hr PPFD for indoor canopies (with CO2 supplementation) is from 800 to perhaps as high as 1200, strain dependent.
Are there currently any on the market that have enough LED bars to exceed 2000ppfd? I don’t see any reason why a company would do that but curious minds want to know
It’s getting towards the end of summer, the sun is shining and normal folks are getting ready for winter. I have zero sympathy for people who choose to sit inside with the AC running this time of year.
“Residents are also reminded that climate change is causing extreme heat.”
Uh, evidently you weren’t around here in 1977. A month plus of triple digits with a top here in Covelo of114. You remember 1977, when the greenies were barking on about global cooling. Here’s a hint, it’s summer.
Maybe you didn’t get the memo, but global warming is no longer considered acceptable terminology and global cooling was dropped way before that. It’s far harder to argue against climate change as the only thing in this world you can count in is change.
Global average surface temperature is increasing, but because a few areas will see cooler temperatures with increased energy in Earth’s climate system, global climate change is slightly more accurate.
The Earth’s climate has always changed, but it hasn’t changed this much in this short of time span ever in human existence.
“The Earth’s climate has always changed, but it hasn’t changed this much in this short of time span ever in human existence.”
How do you know that, prove it.
I doubt your statement is true.
BTW, human existence is just a microscopic sliver of time compared the amount of time earth has had a climate.
I know 65 million years ago the climate changed faster than anytime during our existence. And that’s a pimple on the ass of time.
Lol. Keep regurgitating drivel. Human existence doesn’t matter. Humans have barely existed at all in the scope of the planet. That’s a lot of hubris saying the planet needs to conform to us and not the other way around. Think you can do it? Think you can tell the planet what to do? I just tried after reading your comment. Stood out in my yard yelling at a rock for the past hour telling the planet to knock it off and cool down.
I hope my efforts pay off and all of you have a pleasantly cool day so you can have a break from the heat.
Been a very productive day by 6am. Really gave Earth what for.
Mind blown. Supposedly burning fossil fuels causes climate change, including extreme weather conditions.
Response to high temperatures: Advice to burn gasoline in generators, which will warm your immediate environment, pollute the air, destroy your peace and quiet (and that of your neighbors), and as a bonus, contribute to the global warming effect.
Brilliant!
Meantime, i’m wondering what group to join to completely BAN petroleum-fueled generators, at least in rural areas where people thought they might live clean, healthy lives in quiet, peaceful environments.
The group you are looking for is the California Democrat Party.
but the future of energy in California is hot air generated by politicians wind turbines
I guess it’s a rhetorical wish, so to speak. It’s hard to picture any such law that wouldn’t be part of a much larger boondoggle. Too bad people won’t just use courtesy, respect, and common sense, and we wouldn’t even have to think of making such a pointless law.
Yep laws are for when people don’t adhere to common sense. As the general public gets larger and stupider, there has to be more laws to protect regular people, I guess.
How much sense does it take to look at all the oil and gas being exported, and ask yourself why those dots haven’t been connected.
“Common sense is not so common ” Might be Mark Twain.
How about living like people did before the electric bill.
But when the grid goes down it’s good to have a little backup genny
Wow look at you! Completely off grid and loving it! Let me just fart out $60,000 so I can join your awesome club! Must be nice! Ya know, the earth would be much cleaner and the environment much healthier if we just got rid of poor people!
Just say it all ready, is that what you want? Us poor people really must disturb you fancy rural folk with our trying to survive. ‘Scuse me ma’am, sorry to bother you while ya sniff one’s farts.
It’s only a matter of time before they use your “smart meter” to restrict your access to electricity.
Indubitably.
Internet of things, will be able to disable, or throttle back on demand
Just wondering if PGE is asking dairy farmers to switch to generator power. Or asking lumber mills to shut down. Are any other industries being asked to reduce usage, or just weed?
How many counties have indoor only cultivation? How many permits for indoor did the state approve? Are State offices in cool refreshing Sacramento shutting off the AC?
I haven’t seen any other industries targeted with PR like this. Cannabis is certainly held to a higher standard than other industries of similar impacts which leads to conflicting regulations. Such as banning and phasing out gennie use while simultaneously asking people to turn the gennies on! Oh this is so good! Love it DCC you guys are my heroes.
New industry is the perfect launch pad for new regulations, and everything that runs downstream from that.
Humboldt redwood company makes there own power [edit]
lol … not too many (mostly newbies) know that
Is that the only lumber mill in CA? Genius. So you got their point at least?
Time to build Thermal Energy Plants in Mojave. I know, way to efficient and environmentally effective for our society.
The most recent and extremely well funded attempts at that (Ivanpah/Crescent Dunes) proved to be neither particularly efficient nor environmentally effective. Major fails.
PV has won the solar wars currently and by a wide margin.
https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/americas-concentrated-solar-power-companies-have-all-but-disappeared
Time to build more nuclear power plants. We know that’s the way to go. We have the technology to be cruising like the jetsons. I want a nuclear power reactor in my truck like the military has in its subs and ships. Never have to fuel up again. Power for life. Zero emissions.
Lol. Zero emissions with total environmental contamination after a serious accident. I wonder how first responders will approach the wreckage?
Well technology has gotten a lot better since Chernobyl and if you don’t build on a fault line like Fukushima they are pretty fail safe.
Remember, there is no such thing as a solution, there are only trade offs.
Californias switch to electric cars ect is going to be a disaster, the grid is already to its limits as it is. Where’s the new infrastructure to support the strain when everyone in the state has to start charging thier cars, lawn mowers , chain saws, and motorcycles? The message right now is use less while the plan is to make everyone use more ? People need to fight this before it becomes a reality , the grid can not possibly support this idiotic plan to phase out generators and fossil fuel use. The toxic waste from all the spent battery’s alone will be massive. Just how many will it take to power a single jet or double trailer semi truck? The entire plan is lacking common sence
It’s clear that California politicians have the same thinking that Hollwood has in making a movie. If they dream it, it will come. One trouble is that they will not spend money, time or work to produce the result. Like nuclear power plants, they leave the hard issues for the next generation. And it turns out the next generation is willing to leave it to the following generation until it can’t be put off any more.
Not that the US is the only place with such thinking. The EU was all “look how green we are” until the Russians showed them just how much they aren’t.
German lawmakers announced on Monday that they are going to burn coal and keep two nuclear power plants available as a last resort to get through the winter.
“The major crises — war and climate crises — have a very concrete effect,” said Robert Habeck, the federal economics and climate protection minister, in written statements published on Monday. (The statement is issued in German and CNBC used Google to translate it to English.)
The German government announced its plans to keep the Isar 2 and Neckarwestheim nuclear power plants, both of which are located in the southern part of the country, on a kind of backup status, available only if the country has no other option, as it announced the results of its second network stress test, in which German officials are calculating its energy needs based on a number of potentialities.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/germany-to-keep-two-nuclear-plants-available-as-a-backup-and-burn-coal-as-it-faces-an-energy-crisis-brought-on-by-war-and-climate-change/ar-AA11xmoh
Problem Reaction Solution.
Do you think any of this is just happenstance?
The solution is not clear because we can’t seem to believe how much evil and greed runs this world.
What about solar and alternative energy. Originally the plan was for outdoor grows to get away from generators and use solar power, but somehow that idea got scrapped.
Yes it is really shameful that when this fake legalization came through giving the industry over to huge corporations there was no concern over electrical consumption. We should ban indoor growing. The state of California in their infinite environmental wisdom should be the leader Nationwide and ban indoor grows, only allow sunlight grown cannabis.
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Problem is the new technology will be used to bring the food production closer to the consumer, eliminating the need to transport. Future of produce, will be vertical hydro farms attached to distribution centers /retail.
Then they will convince you to move to space like all the movies have brainwashed, er re educated.
The imagination for every generation has been the battlefield for dominating what you will believe for a lifetime
I totally understand how they manipulate history.
It’s all bullshite
Indoor hydroponically grown cannabis under LED lights is the future….LED’s are low energy consumption and hydro saves water…..our Humboldt outdoor weed is just biomass now….can’t even buy light dep at a dispensary. The “legal” outdoor grows sell all their good light dep weed on the black market then the rest is sold as biomass for concentrates. Basically Humboldt outdoor now is just biomass for the concentrate market. Our heritage, legacy & outdoor quality have gone up in smoke as the old school growers have been replaced by Green Rushers and cooperation who don’t know anything about growing the A+ Kind Bud!
Set up a solar array & batteries 🔋 and you can run indoor on alternative energy 😉
No you can’t! LEDs are nice but you don’t really save that much electricity!! Indoor grows need to be all shut down and the consumers need to be re-educated. Outdoor sungrown weed is the only decent answer for our environment
//”LEDs are nice but you don’t really save that much electricity!!”//
How much is “that much”?
It takes ~40% more power to produce the exact same light output with a good LED than with the best double ended HID. This only takes light into account and doesn’t include the reduced cooling load to remove that 40% more power you didn’t put in the room and turn to heat.
The total reduction in energy usage from HID to LED is very close to half.
Now, halving the energy consumption might not be “that much” to you, but if you bought a new car and it used half the gas per mile I bet you would be bragging, not minimizing.
Hopefully you are supplementing with uv lights. Otherwise led’s don’t really work
While there is some excellent research going on in the impacts of UV(a-b) on flowering cannabis, the evidence shows that even without supplemental UV, moving from even the best double ended HID to a carefully selected LED can be an upgrade in both production and quality.
We’re experimenting currently with a bit of UV supplementation in our lab — mixed results so far. Given the research (Bugbee, Runkle, etc.) I suspect there will be commercial application eventually, but for now it’s not a great risk/reward proposition.
We use the Chilled LED commercial products mostly with excellent results. Have also have extensively used Fluence and Gavita products. Our quality and production both went up when we switched from double ended HID to these LEDs. I’ve had several very experienced (and skeptical) HID grower friends borrow a couple from me to try out side by side and returned surprised, please and sold on the improvements.
There was a time when LEDs were not ready for prime time cannabis cultivation. That time has passed. I would never go back. I still HAVE my double ended lights — just sitting around for occasional overflow use.
Rad!
The intersection of health and commerce.
The key point, that needs to be addressed, is the lack of vitamins , minerals , and enzymes in modern food supply “products”:
Depreciation and Degradation of of source.
Total reduction in energy use from LED to sunlight: 100%.
Total reduction in sales revenue from LED to sun grown: est 90%.
Total reduction in fossil fuels from horse buggy to car = 100%
Do you ride in a horse buggy to work?
As Hayforker (and the buggy makers) points out, the market matters.
Or…
Drum roll please…
You can just grow outdoor.
Haha. Be growing indoor for life just to break even with that set-up.
Change the way people consume, then you figure out how to win market share.
Changing the way people behave is the super long play. Way beyond a normal lifespan.
Not at all! Drive around! All the greenhouses have their tops off. If you find me I’ll give ya a big purple bubbly modified grape bud. Indoor just attempts to simulate SoHum! Remember, that hydro water comes from the Mad River, and the excess nutes go to the bay. Why lose power from the sun on inefficiency, running sunlight through panels, wires, and lights before the plants!?
Didn’t they make the growers get rid of their backup generators because of the noise and fuel?
[…] and tweeted a Flex Alert urging growers to do their part, which was shared by Emerald Triangle’s Redheaded Blackbelt on September […]
Swiss launch energy conservation drive, plan rationing moves
Reuters
The government plans a series of increasingly strict steps, including bans and rationing, should conservation fail to head off shortages.
A draft decree under discussion calls for banning gas for heating vacant buildings, swimming pools, spas or saunas. Gas could not be used in fireplaces or heated tents.
Rooms heated with gas cannot be warmed greater than 19 degrees Celsius (66.2°F), with water heaters capped at 60 degrees.
Households and services such as hospitals, homes for the elderly, police, firefighters, sewage treatment and trash collection would not be subject to rationing under a proposal the government sent out for three weeks of consultations.
Last week, Switzerland set a voluntary gas savings target of 15% for the winter as Europe faces a potential gas shortage as a consequence of the Ukraine war. read more
The country could resort to rolling four-hour regional blackouts should the crisis lead to power shortages.
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The Swiss have universal compulsory military service, and training, then, the government places semi automatic rifles in homes of qualified citizens, requiring ongoing training, for civil defense.
The DCC 16306 generator regulations only apply to diesels. You are allowed to co-gen power via a gaseous generator which is significantly more efficiently than power from the grid. You are also then eligible for a “combined heat and power tax credit” from the government (which is meant to encourage the use of this ‘better than grid’ technology).
Facilities carefully located and holistically designed to integrate utility scale solar arrays as well as ‘tri-gen’ (heat, power, CO2) can reduce the carbon footprint by near 90% over the typical grid/warehouse grows of SoCal/Sacramento/Oakland, etc.
Yes, you can also grow outdoors. Table tomatoes and fresh peppers can also be grown outdoors, but it turns out in the US those markets are dominated by controlled environment facilities with supplemental lighting and co-gen. Controlled environment cannabis will migrate to these mature farming technologies out of competitive necessity.
Outdoor grown can be exceptional. Depending on year to year variations in weather, it can also be middling and/or different. Many consumers prefer the consistency of cannabis grown in a more controlled and repeatable environment. To each his/her own.
Efficiencies of ALL cannabis production methods will continue to improve or business failures will result due to the competition with those who do improve.
No one *needs* poinsettias grown in controlled environment facilities with supplemental lighting, etc., and yet folks buy close to a billion dollars of them per year. No one *needs* to buy apples in the summer which have been flown in from New Zealand or Argentina. Blueberries from Chile? Grapes from Peru? Food imports are a >150 billion dollar industry in the US — mostly because consumers want fresh and now. Cannabis will continue to migrate in the fresh and now direction.
There are the ways we think things should be and there are the ways things are. Change is hard.
And not always smart.
Smart is subjective. Market demand is objective. Change is guaranteed.
The race to the cheapest price point is simply a move to ensure the competition stays on those corporate bank statements.
Just because you can doesn’t mean it’s a good idea.
Monocropping, is a perfect example of profits over environmental impact.
“Lead, follow, or get out of the way.”
//”Just because you can doesn’t mean it’s a good idea.”//
Reducing the carbon footprint of production for an billion+ dollar market by ~90% or so is a great idea and a perfect example of the place where environmental impact and profits can coexist.
I’m leading.
Once the regulators loosen up regulations the industry is toast unless you are on ag land. A guy will be growing acres of reefer just him and his tractor. $40 a pound.
Elon Musk, speaking outside an energy conference in Norway:”I think realistically we do need to use oil and gas in the short term because, otherwise, civilization would crumble…any reasonable person would conclude that.”
Kitt from Knight Rider is Elon’s inspirado for the Tesla. Elon must have been transfixed, in front of the big cathode ray tube, with cornflakes falling out of his mouth!
Britons must never again be forced to pay exorbitant energy bills, Liz Truss will declare on Thursday as she promises more North Sea drilling and ditches the fracking ban.
Annual energy bills will be frozen at around £2,500 for the average household both this winter and next, and green levies will be scrapped.
Businesses will get protection from energy price rises in a pandemic-style government intervention that could end up costing more than £150 billion.
But on Wednesday, the pound plummeted to its weakest level since 1985 on the new Prime Minister’s first full day in office as markets appeared to baulk at the scale of the move to tackle bills, underscoring the financial challenges ahead.
Ms Truss will say: “I know families and businesses across the country are worried about how they are going to make ends meet this autumn and winter.
“Putin’s war in Ukraine and weaponisation of gas supply in Europe is causing global prices to rise – and this has only made clearer that we must boost our long-term energy security and supply.
“We will take action immediately to help people and businesses with bills but also take decisive action to tackle the root cause of these problems so that we are not in this position again.”
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doglife:
//”All the indoor growers be putting crazy stress on the grid with a huge carbon footprint but yeah whatever the customer is always right!”//
Farce:
//”Indoor growing should be banned”//
With a little scrutiny, the above claims/assertions turn out to be as hollow as the claims that cannabis cultivation is responsible for drying up the West.
In my latest search of the DCC license bank, I find 2,880,000sf of indoor licenses of size (I didn’t count the few tiny ‘specialty cottage’, etc.)
Let’s do the absolute worst we can do here. Let’s assume:
**All licensed sf is fully utilized (it’s not)
**All use 1 light / 16sf (they don’t)
**All use 1000w HID for a 1,100w average draw per light (they don’t)
**All run 12/365 days/year with no room turnover downtime (they don’t)
**All use typical AC systems to cool and dehumidify (they don’t)
**No energy at all would be used to replace above if grown outdoors (it would)
We’ll then take the above and use the scariest, most inefficient numbers we can find (Evan Mills ‘peer reviewed’ study – see image below).
Using the above, here is the equation representing the total yearly licensed indoor facility electrical usage (in TWh).
2,880,000 / 16 * 1.1 * 12 * 365 * 2.6 / 1,000,000,000 = 2.255 TWh annual
Now from the CA energy commission, let’s get the yearly electrical grid usage of CA in general: = 259.5 TWh annual
So 2.255 / 259.5 = 0.0087 of the total.
You can argue it’s not needed. You can argue it’s not efficient. You can argue it’s not environmentally friendly. What you can’t rationally argue is that something using less than 9/1,000ths of the grid usage is “crazy stress” on the grid, or that banning it would have any big impact on such.
Now, we can say “what about all the traditional market indoor grown — you didn’t include that”. Correct. The State banning indoor cultivation as Farce would have us do would have zero impact on reducing the power usage of traditional market cannabis — only the legal side. In fact, it would certainly increase the power usage of such (market replacement) and given the constraints of an illegal grow, would be even more inefficient, unsafe and environmentally unfriendly than the worst of the licensed. His logic eats itself.
Data matters. Just as cannabis irrigation isn’t responsible for our overall water issues, indoor cannabis isn’t the issue with the grid.
“Data matters. Just as cannabis irrigation isn’t responsible for our overall water issues, indoor cannabis isn’t the issue with the grid.”
Yes!!!
I can see why the state has asked pot growers to turn on their generators and disconnect from the grid. If the average California home uses 18 kilowatts a day. My neighbor’s grow has one hundred 1049 watt light bulbs so on an 18 hour cycle the bulbs are using roughly the electric of one hundred homes if we don’t include all of the fans and heating and cooling. PGE will not allow any new connections to be made in our area in So Hum even for a single house. The grid is maxed out and all of these new grow lights and mechanical equipment do not help the situation. PGE has no plans to upgrade the lines in our area so any new housing must be off grid which is what I did. It turned out better than I thought, I can now keep my AC at 70 degrees and not have to worry about the electric bill or the power going out.
I think it’s a very smart thing for the DCC to recommend growers use their generators during a spike in grid power use. In fact, growers (with their large crop value) shouldn’t need encouragement. The smart growers would have already done that just for insurance.
Any industry or power user that has alternative power options should revert to those in a time of grid stress – it’s just good sense to both optimize energy sources and minimize use in such. Blaming that grid stress on the 0.0087 user and calling for a ban however is nonsense.
Locating agriculture endeavors where water is a critical issue is bad stewardship and bad business if other options are available (as it is with cannabis). Locating a grow facility in an area with insufficient power options (as your neighbor has done), is just as dumb. I’ve been hounding these comment sections for years saying “The future is in moving to where the needed resources are plentiful”.
In a world run by those with an agenda, truth is also moving where the resources are plentiful.
Catch my drift?
Off grid Is the future!
How about we make indoor illegal
then I wouldn’t have access to the medicine that I cannot afford at the dispensary~
you do you, as the current saying goes
125 comments are too many to scan if someone said this:
“…consider reducing their energy load by: using a backup generator, if safe, and available…”
Like the ones we won’t soon be able to buy?