Licensed Cultivator Gets Busted for Selling Plants to Undercover Cops Illegally

Cannabis indoor operation. [Photo from HCSO]

Cannabis indoor operation. [Photo from HCSO]

This is a press release from the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office. The information has not been proven in a court of law and any individuals described should be presumed innocent until proven guilty:

The Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office has been receiving reports of licensed cannabis farms and nurseries selling products on the black market. During the week of May 9, 2022, the Sheriff’s Marijuana Enforcement Team (MET) conducted a compliance investigation into the sale of cannabis plants online via Facebook Marketplace. The seller was known to deputies to be a licensed cannabis cultivator

, authorized to both cultivate cannabis to full term and function as a nursery for clones/starts.

Members of the Marijuana Enforcement Team contacted the seller via the social media platform and arranged to purchase 1,500 cannabis clones. Under California Commercial Cannabis Regulations, the sale of cannabis clones/starts can only be conducted between licensees. The seller agreed to sell the clones to undercover deputies without a license.

On May 16, MET deputies conducted an undercover operation to attempt to complete the illegal purchase of 1,500 clones with the seller at a licensed nursery in the Dinsmore area. Upon arrival to the property, undercover deputies met with the seller who agreed to sell the clones with no paperwork and provided untagged clones to the deputies, in violation of California Track and Trace requirements. Following the illegal transaction, deputies executed a search warrant on the property with the assistance of Humboldt County Code Enforcement and the California Department of Food and Agriculture.

During the service of the warrant, deputies inspected the nursery operation, in addition to a full-term cultivation operation. The seller was found to be in compliance with their full-term cultivation license and no full-term plants were eradicated. However, during the investigation, deputies found the seller to be out of compliance with their nursery license, noting a discrepancy of thousands of plants reported as “lost” to the Department of Cannabis Control. Evidence of illegal clone sales was found during a search of the property, with many of the “lost” plants believed to have been sold outside of the State’s Track and Trace program.

Due to the violation of the nursery license, approximately 22,000 cannabis plants associated with the nursery were eradicated. Approximately 15 pounds of untagged, packaged cannabis bud were seized and destroyed.

No arrests were made during the service of this warrant. The case is being forwarded to the Humboldt County District Attorney’s Office for review and prosecution.

Anyone with information about this case or related activity is encouraged to call the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office at (707) 445-7251 or the Sheriff’s Office Crime Tip line at (707) 268-2539.

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Humboldt Lady
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Humboldt Lady
1 year ago

🤮🤮🤮 You have so many major drug dealers in this County! Get the meth off the streets! Get the dealers behind bars. You all make me sick with this shit! Get the people that are killing people with their horrific drugs. Put our tax dollars to work getting the dangerous people behind bars. Stop wasting time and money on pot growers.

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Don T MattaD
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Don T Matta
1 year ago
Reply to  Humboldt Lady

Exactly the problem if they would put even HALF the effort into stopping Fentanyl Heroin Meth etc. as they do chasing the Cannabis growers whose product harms NO ONE, this county would be a LOT better off!!!

Jones
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1 year ago
Reply to  Don T Matta

The products may not cause harm. But these people do.

Jones
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1 year ago
Reply to  Humboldt Lady

These people in particular are worse than any meth dealers. They deserve to go down for everything they did to the people of Humboldt. THEY ARE MONSTERS.
Don’t speak too soon. They deserve this and worse.

grey fox
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1 year ago

LOL..Idiot…Gee these guys seem OK. Guess I will sell them illegal clones. Of course I don’t know them, but I met them over the internet so that makes it safe.

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Joe
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Joe
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

I thought Facebook was always legit?!? No?

willow creeker
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1 year ago

Shocking!

North westCertain license plate out of thousands c
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North westCertain license plate out of thousands c
1 year ago

I could never be a cop or coroner. Two vary important jobs. Just not something I could do.

Country Joe
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1 year ago

In many counties a sheriff is also a coroner…

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Don Burget
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Don Burget
1 year ago

this is because of over regulation…do you tax tomatos like this? Do you require a “nursery” tax on zucchini? When gov gets out of the way, and lets free market set the terms, the violence, the cartels, the pharma takeovers, will all be gone….it’s still not really “legal”

Johnny 🌱
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Johnny 🌱
1 year ago
Reply to  Don Burget

Guessing the “black market” $ales help to cover the exorbitant tax scheme going on…hence they can pay the other fees associated with their licenses, inspections, taxes etc etc etc – with “legal” sales! What a system – remember, don’t bite the hand that feeds ya!

PS There’s a big fentanyl/meth problem going on…

Country Joe
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1 year ago
Reply to  Johnny 🌱

Fentanyl is flooding over our southern border…

NoGovernment
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NoGovernment
1 year ago
Reply to  Country Joe

trump wuz right

F.D.T.
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F.D.T.
1 year ago
Reply to  NoGovernment

It’s certainly crazy how America was drug-free during the Frump administration…

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Cetan Bluesky
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Cetan Bluesky
1 year ago
Reply to  NoGovernment

Trump has NEVER been right.

ataloss
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ataloss
1 year ago
Reply to  Don Burget

Everybody needs to pay taxes and fees to operate – why should pot growers be “special” and not adhere to rules everyone else does.

Antichrist
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Antichrist
1 year ago
Reply to  ataloss

Exactly why should pot growers have to pay larger and extra taxes than any other farmer ?

Nick
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Nick
1 year ago
Reply to  Antichrist

Because they have 50 years of making up to do

NoGovernment
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NoGovernment
1 year ago
Reply to  Nick

right-on

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
1 year ago
Reply to  Nick

85 billion of our tax dollars left behind in Afghanistan, and now we are being asked to pay for Ukrainian pensions? 40 billion…?

Let’s get our priorities straight and reduce the government boot print on our lives.

Unless u have a government job that requires you to go along to get along

Hayforker
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Hayforker
1 year ago
Reply to  Nick

This is inequitable and part of the problematic attitude that needs to go away. The extraordinary taxes and fees are continuing to exasperated the environmental and cultural issues as the illicit farms can continue to operate. The really solution is to make legal farms a better solution (and truly doable) and this will change the existing problems. That is unless you just want to punish people for things they may not have ever done. Why not take the more noble path?

Kirk Vodopals
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Kirk Vodopals
1 year ago
Reply to  Hayforker

That’s a naively altruistic approach to a network of operators who game the system as much as possible. You’ll never be able to set up a regulatory system that equitably controls all the negative externalities. Just look at the SEC and Wall Street! Do you really think that illegal activity like this would decrease if taxes and fees were decreased? Nope! Illegal profits would just increase. Crying about over-regulation and taxation, particularly in California, is a familiar trope, but, for the weed industry operating mainly in steep, forested hills filled with spotted owls and endangered fisheries, it’s ridiculous. Move to Oklahoma.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
1 year ago
Reply to  Kirk Vodopals

I’m not expecting a perfect system and I not condone these guys, but to expect everyone to operate within the absurd set of regulations isn’t reasonable. There is almost no way to operate a break even cannabis facility currently in the triangle. Wall St and SEC is a different beast and the best comparable is vineyards and commercial ag. They don’t have these taxes and fees because they predated regulations and for cannabis all the agencies saw a sweet money grab.

Oklahoma sucks ass in so many ways I wouldn’t consider it. I don’t grow and I hope those that do can make it.

Kirk Vodopals
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Kirk Vodopals
1 year ago
Reply to  Hayforker

I think that’s my overall point: the only advantage the redwood curtain ever had was the curtain. The system literally does not want to operate behind the curtain. The OG folks escaped the system back in the day. They got tons of knowledge and high quality output skills, but the topography, ecology, remoteness and hill muffin mentality don’t jive with the system. The system is what we all want to avoid, if possible. It’s soul-sucking, but, you gotta play it if you wanna be legal. Wah! Wah! The weed industry has been screaming Legalize It since Peter Tosh was in his thirties. Weed was the dropout culture back in the day. Now it’s being co-opted as fast as you can say Dan Bongino CBD gel.

Hebilla Cinturón de Rodeo
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Hebilla Cinturón de Rodeo
1 year ago
Reply to  Kirk Vodopals

They’re doing it with gross ass rat poop baby formula from Abbott Labs. The news is all a-flurry with reducing regulations on pumpin out rat poop Glucerna, and fake baby juice. NPR did about 7 minutes on it and never mentioned “breast feeding” once. Neither did they mention why there was a recall. Just “oooh we gotta reduce wegulations on Abbot!”

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
1 year ago
Reply to  Nick

Commercial cannabis cultivation was a miniscule activity 50 years ago and many many permitted cannabis growers are under 50 years old. You need to let go of your bitterness and accept that you were lied to and bilked out of tens of billions of dollars by the govt in the “war on drugs”. Legalize and punish is a stupid path that doesn’t solve any of the problems that prohibition caused

ataloss
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ataloss
1 year ago
Reply to  Don Burget

Forgot to mention tomatoes are taxed when you buy the seeds, soul, fertilizer, and furthermore when you buy it for consumption. So taxes are paid all around.
How do you think government supports all those handouts. Someone’s gotta pay.

Legallettuce
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1 year ago

Yep, knew the shit sting operations was gonna start around here. Not outside the triangle though where most operate under the radar. Continued enforcement of our locals is largely due to the legal competition in the south getting their asses handed to em. We about to dump a shitload of product and obliterate any hope you fuckers thought you had using my beloved to get you bastards a tax break. FUCK LEGAL!!!

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Kirk Vodopals
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Huh?
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Huh?
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

They own Left Coast Enterprises which in turn owns SISU. I heard SISU sold for 40 million, but I couldn’t verify that.

Ol’ Loco
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Ol’ Loco
1 year ago

A licensed producer doing a little off-the-books business on the side! This is the best use of my tax dollars when there are so many illegal grows draining our watersheds & polluting our hillsides?

I may not fully support nor am I opposed to the cannabis cultivation in our county but we need to focus our efforts on crime reduction in the more urban areas of Humboldt.

I am no longer willing to do virtually any business in the Eureka area due to the rampant “petty” crimes. I’m unwilling to take a chance at returning to my vehicle to find my catalytic converter’s been removed, my fuel tank has been punctured & drained or my windows been busted out even though there is nothing inside to steal.

Something has to be done to curtail crime on our streets & in our neighborhoods so honest, hard working citizens can feel safe in their communities.

Legallettuce
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1 year ago
Reply to  Ol’ Loco

Not sure where you live but I have had an apartment in Eureka for 12 years in the worst part and it’s even 300ft from a Squire owned property.

Never has anyone so much as touched my vehicles or caused any issue. Yep they’ll come over and even sleep in a cubby between my vehicles and my apartment sometimes. Never threatening or acting in any criminal manner. I will often go outside and communicate and ask them to make sure they pick up their trash, don’t use needles and if so clean it up. I ask them how they are doing and if any ask for me to give them something I point out the many shelters my group donates to and where they should seek proper help. If I see them I will stop and say hi ask how they are and if they reached out to get help.

My best advice is if you want a more stable condition then create it quit expecting it.

Tony SD
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1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Sometimes making a more stable condition involves moving.

c u 2morrow
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c u 2morrow
1 year ago
Reply to  Tony S

or being responsible

Farce
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Farce
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Thank you for being a decent person to our struggling neighbors. Sometimes these folks are in that spot because they’ve been beat down from birth. Some of them thieve but the majority do not and they don’t need more beating down…just a kind word and respect can help their day.

Legallettuce
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1 year ago
Reply to  Farce

Thanks farce. Brother Thomas the guy they dropped of at the cal fire station was a great soul that didn’t need beating down either, fyi my brother. It’s why I was quick to respond to your comment. Blessings.

Farce
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Farce
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

I knew parts of that scene from a different perspective. Never meant to say anything bad about a dead person may they RIP. I do take a difference with Charles setting up dangerous situations by putting people together competing for resources when they never agreed to it…and then he washes his hands of the situation he created and plays like he is kind brother bear. I’m no fan of Charles’ shenanigans. That was our disagreement I think. I knew the crazy guy who got run over and he was problematic but the situation up there sure didn’t help! Maybe that was one place that could’ve used a Zero Gun policy…when hippies go bad! Anyways…treating people with respect and kindness is always worth a try. I’ll try again someday! lol

Legallettuce
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1 year ago
Reply to  Farce

Yea that was Dusty another good soul just, yea, he had a lot of built up hate. I can understand your point bout Charles but I will defend his rights to do so especially in regards to the quarry. I will not allow the county to be aggressive towards Charles or his property and iffin the county shows up with bulldozers so will I but it’ll be to push the county dozers back where they came. They been mak’in a lot of changes for the good so I hope at some point you get to see, blessings friend.

Woed
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Woed
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Are you a compulsive liar or what?

Legallettuce
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1 year ago
Reply to  Woed

It’s all the truth. I know it’s probably hard to believe cause you are manipulated by your environment and have been accustomed to listening to others without experiencing any social engagement on your own. I choose not to live that way and every word I speak or type is the truth.

If you would like I can walk my alley every night videoing how safe and how respectable humans can be towards each other. Post it on my website and you can probably do what you normally do. Watch others experiencing life and then cover your own fake life by calling them liars.

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Woed
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Woed
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

No I am referring to the fact that you present yourself as a grower but you actually are a keyboard warrior living in an apartment in eureka

Legallettuce
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1 year ago
Reply to  Woed

lol, I had a professional career and grew. This notion of lazy growers is a myth. Hypothetically of course if someone was the main grower for a large family with an abundance of resources to which they have ties to an abundance of resources anything is possible. I since left that scene and roughly about 2014-15 been an independent. My kids now manage that family business which I ran since ’91 prior to being just a seasonal worker since ’84. I have the credentials and witnesses all throughout the triangle. I think my Mom, my ex, and our boys will testify if necessary along with a few others. We called it the “many faces” show them what they wanna see in order to protect your kids, lady and family is what we growing professionals had to master. Clean cut and spoke words of the establishment til I got into my truck and headed to the hill. I currently grow out in Garberville legally and it is were I am texting from right now. I also grow in Trinity and it’s nice to have a place in Eureka away from the hill nowadays. Plus, I have many friends in Humboldt/Trinity (Mendo as well just a few though) and they would miss me if I just stayed on the Hill all the time. What can I say, I am loved.

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Woed
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Woed
1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Like I said…. compulsive liar

Legallettuce
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1 year ago
Reply to  Woed

Your response is typical and if I was religious I’d say I would prey for you. If anything it’s past hypothetical and more theory. But, I can prove law. But, then I get all these people invoked in my life and I am just not willing to do so.

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Legallettuce
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1 year ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

It’s not confusing to the people who are honest and true. You’ll figure it out someday most likely long after I am cremated.

Country Joe
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1 year ago
Reply to  Ol’ Loco

If you want law and order restored to our streets and sanity returned, vote republican in 2022 and 2024…Otherwise, it’s just more of the same old chaos and violence.

Former VP Pence rolled out the republican platform for 2022…”Advancing American Freedom, entails rolling back taxes and regulations, securing the border and energy independence, as well as standing strong against Russia and confronting communist China. The platform has a heavy cultural element to it as well, what Pence calls the “American culture pillar,” and includes a pledge to “save women and protect women’s sports” by ensuring that sports competitions are between those, who share their God-given gender. The platform also aims to reform big tech and prevent censorship by social media platforms, a key conservative cause in recent. years. Voters across the country can unite around this plan to keep America from further decline and decay brought on by President Biden and progressive policies. America can be as free and prosperous as ever, if we stand firm on our principles and hew to what has always made America the greatest nation in the history of the world.

Legallettuce
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1 year ago
Reply to  Country Joe

Joe Biden quietly eliminated ANTIFA the Republicans had riots and looting in the streets all accross America when they held power. Vote Democrat if ya really wanna be safe. Are ya mad cause all the white power gatherings have ceased?

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No consequences
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No consequences
1 year ago

Wait. So they were allowed to keep a bunch of their full term plants after they just sold an undercover cop 1500 illegal plants!! Wow. Why not just take them out to dinner and apologize after. If you get caught doing this you should have all licenses and plats taken immediately. Plain and simple

Tony SD
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1 year ago

The full term plants were legal.

Farce
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Farce
1 year ago
Reply to  Tony S

But they were running an illegal operation under the colors of being legal. We can assume they have been doing so since permits began and made some bucks laughing at everybody who got abated or followed the law. They should be completely shut down with all permits removed.

Madrone is the best Supervisor in Humboldt
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Madrone is the best Supervisor in Humboldt
1 year ago
Reply to  Farce

💯 agree 👍

Hayforker
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Hayforker
1 year ago
Reply to  Farce

Well thankfully you’re not in charge or vindictive abuse would be the MO. Trying to destroy the permit holders because times have changed counter to your liking is crazy at best.

Farce
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Farce
1 year ago
Reply to  Hayforker

Okay- we disagree strongly on everything. I get it! But don’t let it trigger you into saying stupid things, please LOL! It is not “vindictive abuse” to say this guy should lose his permits. It’s basic decency with respect to the law -remember the law that allows you a permit? If he gets to blow out another huge grow after doing what he did then why should anybody follow the law? Or are you one of these many permit pansies that want to be able to blow out huge grows protected by permits yet also do whatever you want permitted or not and meanwhile allow all your neighbors who were too small to afford permits get abated and raided? Because that sounds like a terrible person to be…that might actually be the worst grower of them all

Jay Beigh
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Jay Beigh
1 year ago
Reply to  Farce

//”It is not “vindictive abuse” to say this guy should lose his permits.”//

I would be willing to wager a significant amount of money that this license is toast.

JB

dogglife
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dogglife
1 year ago
Reply to  Jay Beigh

You can’t uncut down a plant but you can let it be till the details have been settled to avoid a possible lawsuit.

lostcoastsoul
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lostcoastsoul
1 year ago
Reply to  dogglife

Tha is a sensible reply.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
1 year ago
Reply to  Farce

He likely will lose hispermits, but there is a principle called “due process” that plays out in regulated markets. There will be a hearing and he’ll get to have his say.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
1 year ago
Reply to  Farce

The guy responsible for the permits I happen to know, unfortunately. He’s an ass so it would be karmic for him to lose the nursery and also the cultivation. Maybe any other permits he might have.

(His plan in Mad River involved every permit type and a one mega watt backup gennie system! Haha I knew it to be BS when I learned the APN which mainly sits in the floodplain along 36. It was obvious and CDFW never gave him a chance there.)

My point was more to the terrible attitude, like repeating permit pansies which makes you sound a hundred years old, toward all permit holders. Should Sean face the consequences? Yes, but this constant attack on all permittees is misplaced anger. That’s why I’m glad your not in charge of enforcement, regulations, etc.

And for the record I don’t hold a permit or grow at all, but generally support all cultivation, permitted or otherwise, when done responsibly and respectfully. There is no one right path in life and the vast majority of people in the permit system are trying their best in a completely screwed up situation and you’re not helping.

lostcoastsoul
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lostcoastsoul
1 year ago
Reply to  Hayforker

You seem to know the guy, yet you feel the need to leave out that the operation he as tyring to put in place was to remove massive environmental impacts, provide a coop style operation to help small farmers and bring jobs to a disadvantged community. Sounds to me like you are just another random hater who is a loser at life and seeks to hate on others to help yourself feel better. All the while hiding behind an alias. I know him as well. You wishing ill will onto others using only half wit statements shows what you have accomplished in life.

lostcoastsoul
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lostcoastsoul
1 year ago
Reply to  Farce

Maybe you are such a LEO worshipper you have a hard time deciphering the presser for what it really says and what really happened? You see any money confiscated? You see the DCC being onsite? You see evidence of “lost” product? Me neither. Maybe you should stop slandering until you have the facts and not some press drummed up report?

CorporateShark
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CorporateShark
1 year ago
Reply to  Farce

That’s not how business works in America. You break the law, you pay a few fines and keep on rolling. Get real. What? You mad because they’re such a big operator they get to bend the rules? What corporation doesn’t do this?

lostcoastsoul
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lostcoastsoul
1 year ago
Reply to  Farce

Maybe they were not shut down as this raid was a illegal attack?

lostcoastsoul
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lostcoastsoul
1 year ago

“If they got caught”… Maybe they didn’t? You see any money confiscated in the presser? Ever wonder why the DCC was not onsite with the LEO?

homeboldt
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homeboldt
1 year ago

Wasting all that tax money from cannabis to fuck with cannabis growers. Cool, cool.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
1 year ago

Didn’t think this was still a reminder people needed, but don’t sell illegal products on Facebook marketplace with your actual account. It’s generally a bad idea to sell illegal items to strangers, but it’s an even worse idea to advertise it on a public site linked to your real name

lostcoastsoul
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lostcoastsoul
1 year ago

You see any facts about a sale? According to DCC regs, any market with an over 21 crowd is legal.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
1 year ago

Don’t you lose your cannabis license if you break the rules, like the ABC? Seems only fair

Tony SD
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1 year ago

Different regulatory body. The ABC focus’s a lot on underage drinking as well.

Herc
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Herc
1 year ago

On3 thing is c3rtain. Th3 numb3r thr33 should always r3plac3 the l3tt3r E !!!

FernGully
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FernGully
1 year ago

Wow. Literally, who the h3ll cares? Try being helpful, HCSO.

c u 2morrow
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c u 2morrow
1 year ago
Reply to  FernGully

bad business practice

Woed
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Woed
1 year ago
Reply to  c u 2morrow

For the hcso

Reggie
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1 year ago

about 80 percent of legal farms do back services this is nothing new

Mega me
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Mega me
1 year ago
Reply to  Reggie

95 percent .

Gina
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1 year ago

These guys are horrible people. I know for a fact. They deserve to go down. Not everyone deserves to be in this industry. KARMA!

Fndrbndr
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Fndrbndr
1 year ago
Reply to  Gina

Care to give the farm name?

Hayforker
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Hayforker
1 year ago
Reply to  Fndrbndr

Sean?!? Haha yeah he is a piece of work. Super sloppy too. Well over due to get busted. He burned a great many people out my way.

Gina
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1 year ago
Reply to  Hayforker

He is the scum of the earth 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

Farce
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Farce
1 year ago
Reply to  Hayforker

Classic. Emily has lots of press about how she helps out kids in Panama. Maybe it’s true, maybe it’s bullshit? I’ve seen that kind of thing before where a seriously greedy narcissist has one little thing they do for medical smokers/handicapped/surf school etc and they blow that thing up while taking from everybody else. Honestly once we hit greenrush times the overall quality of people in the game became fairly disgusting. Some good ones for sure! But not that many…This story is way too common- rising to the top by stepping on everybody’s heads then claiming awesomeness. Think I’m bitter? Well I’ve seen some shit…

Farce
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Farce
1 year ago
Reply to  Fndrbndr

From Massachusetts. Arrived here as greenrushers. Then doing winters in Panama. Cliche’ story of how we gave it all away…

lostcoastsoul
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lostcoastsoul
1 year ago
Reply to  Gina

Or care to give the back story on why the extreme hateful attack?

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
1 year ago

Would venture to say pretty solidly that anyone running legal operation has something illegal going on out the back door.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
1 year ago

When the regulation make fully legal operations impossible (especially for small licenses) or only provide subsistence level income, this can be expected. I see it in so many small businesses: restaurants, agriculture, independent contractors, construction, etc, etc, etc.

Farce
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Farce
1 year ago
Reply to  Hayforker

So…it’s cool to get a permit and then blow off the terms of the permit? And then if you get caught doing that to complain that it’s not fair?! You might be revealing yourself to be an immoral and sleazy operator, bro!

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
1 year ago
Reply to  Farce

Its always OK to sell ag products outside of the regulated market place. I’m super grateful I’m able to get quality beef for cheap because it has the “not for resale” stamp on it. Same logic applies to cannabis in my mind

Hayforker
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Hayforker
1 year ago
Reply to  Farce

The system is designed to fail. I’m not gonna act like it isn’t. It’s obviously a farce, right? People do what they have to to survive. Farmers operating on the gray market do so because of forces beyond their control. I see it in so many industries it’s crazy. I’m not saying it’s okay, but they guys aren’t killing people or something evil. I don’t like the situation one bit and that’s why I’m not a grower. I operate in entirely different industries. I do recall you saying, last week, you recommended a loan to own scheme to take someone’s money and then their land. Now that is sleazy.

Panthera Onca
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Panthera Onca
1 year ago

Can we get the labor board involved in the permit process? If you hire “under the table workers” with no taxes withheld and no background check, you lose your permit. Please.

North westCertain license plate out of thousands c
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North westCertain license plate out of thousands c
1 year ago
Reply to  Panthera Onca

That would affect every farm from San Diego up.

Tony SD
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1 year ago
Reply to  Panthera Onca

The Labor Board does not investigate Business Codes outside of workers rights.

shortjohnson
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shortjohnson
1 year ago
Reply to  Panthera Onca

Thats ridiculous. What country do you live in that there is an abundance of legal willing labor?

Hayforker
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Hayforker
1 year ago
Reply to  Panthera Onca

What ag producing business doesn’t hire under the table? Even the large farms down south are famous for it. Same with so many other industries. Do cannabis workers require a background check? I don’t recall this requirement.

lostcoastsoul
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lostcoastsoul
1 year ago
Reply to  Panthera Onca

Wow, I heard that 3 legal employees lost their jobs over this. Nothing about illegal workers. Why would you state that if there is nothing in the presser about it? Funny how there were no environmental crimes listed or any assets seized.

Pazuzu
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Pazuzu
1 year ago

The reason they don’t take the time to bust meth and fetanyl dealers is because the can’t get cash from them most of dealers have a little cash and nothing else to offer

Curiouser and curiouser
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Curiouser and curiouser
1 year ago

Destroying the only viable industry left in Humboldt?

sds
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sds
1 year ago

No this was legal, not black market, which is the only viable industry left in Humboldt. And things do not look goof for the future of legal or illegal cannabis.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
1 year ago
Reply to  sds

Probably the most accurate comment yet.

Brent peeck
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Brent peeck
1 year ago

Selling illegal to afford the crazy legal taxes. This is a result of a failed system by our horrible politicians.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
1 year ago
Reply to  Brent peeck

Absolutely. When it’s impossible to follow all the requirements, people will do what they have to. To expect otherwise is unrealistic.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
1 year ago
Reply to  Hayforker

Haha I had thought your hatred was just with legal growers, but it now appears to be anyone who you don’t agree with. I didn’t condone anything by anyone. Selling clones on the illicit side is bad, but it’s not murder or another violent crime. Should the permittee lose his permit and pay a fine? Sure.

But you have some unreasonable naive view of people as good or evil, when it’s a spectrum. Now to call me a criminal and say I’ll be hunted down. Hahahaha that’s good. Your threats don’t scare me and your fantasies don’t worry me. You must just be a bitter old person with not much to do. Bummer, I sure hope to never be like you.

Anon
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Anon
1 year ago

You dope growers are such victims. If a distillery or brewery was to sell their booze to people on Facebook and not go through the proper channels, they would also be in trouble. You people have gotten away with it all for so long that you now live in your own little weedy world where the rules don’t apply to you coz you’re” special”

Legallettuce
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1 year ago
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No they shouldn’t have to go through proper channels they are unjust laws. If ya want ATF oversight than the powers to be woulda made it so. Why they didn’t is because your government has a long history of exchanging dope to buy weapons and bullets. They also use dope people’s transport and distribution sources especially since the Honduras fiasco. They were using the coastguard by say’in it was confiscated and they (cia) just needed to destroy it at their facilities in Seattle, Los Angeles and Oakland ports. Just one tincy wincy issue coastguarders make for terrible outlaws especially when they can’t keep their mouth shut.

The laws against marijuana prohibition are unjust laws and if challenged will be repealed. Why they need to get their law shit in order before supreme court has to acknowledge truth!

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/justice-department-tells-supreme-court-to-reject-marijuana-case-while-acknowledging-legalization-momentum/

Joe
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Joe
1 year ago

Bulls on parade.

c u 2morrow
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c u 2morrow
1 year ago

aka, known as being made an example of.

jack bourne
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jack bourne
1 year ago

Newsflash, the nurserys are hurting bad this year, ive gotten more calls soliciting clones this year than i have ever gotten before. I tell them all yes, i will buy 1,000 clones, but im only paying 2$ a clone.

League for Spiritual Discovery fan
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League for Spiritual Discovery fan
1 year ago

I’ve been buying legal since the pandy. Bypassing the branding and packaging, which I have found to be predictable but astounding, good legal shit will still set you back ~50% more than your network dealers. I’m happy to do it thought, at this point of my doper life. It takes alot of dough to front a legal pot retail scene, and I’m sure to grow and distribute as well. Plus, in California it’s a cumbersome cash business. The taxes to be tolerated have been an exorbitant gouge all along. Time for reform.

Farce
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Farce
1 year ago

Well…Tim Leary (and Art Kleps) would tell you to not trust anybody over 30. Or under 30 either! I’m not gonna knock your choice but I will remind you that many small hand-to-mouth underground outfits will provide you with excellent smoke at much lower prices. And then you would not be paying for the bullshit packaging and many unneeded requirements the dispensary must go through. You see…when you pay the dispensary prices you are directly supporting the oppressive system…you are feeding the parasites and the jailers and those who control the black iron gate which is closing on us (okay that’s a Philip K Dick reference)

Tree Hugger
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Tree Hugger
1 year ago
Reply to  Farce

OK, that was Marshall McLuhan (not Tim Leary or Art Kleps) and he said “don’t trust anyone over 30” back when television was ~30 years old, meaning older people had not become indoctrinated by the TV and are liable to commit the heresy of thinking their own thoughts. In other words, the people over 30 were the free-thinkers making up their own minds!

Also, Tim Leary’s famous quote was, ‘tune in, turn on, drop out’, which the Harvard psychologist later dissembled to mean, ‘tune in to universal consciousness, turn on to psychedelia, and drop out of conventional thinking.’

And Philip K. Dick used the phrase ‘Black Iron Prison’ (not “black iron gate”) to refer to a fictional Earth as a prison planet where Rome never actually fell and the system continues to harvest souls for Satan (not unlike how real-world prominent WWII German NAZIs became American citizens and took over control of NASA, CIA, etc. via project Paperclip.)

Tree Hugger
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Tree Hugger
1 year ago
Reply to  Farce

Actually, PKD’s ‘Black Iron Prison’ appeared both in his fiction as well as his personal, spiritual ‘Exegisis’. He came to believe that the ancient bloodlines continue to secretly rule the Earth from the times of ancient Babylon up through the current era. They keep us divided—attacking each other—and we never notice who is actually pulling the strings.

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Farce
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Farce
1 year ago
Reply to  Tree Hugger

Beautiful! You got me and I stand corrected- and further educated. I was just ranting on coffee and didn’t know I’d get fact-checked! Nice to know that anybody knew what I was referring to…Yes- Black Iron Prison. But HeyNow- I just checked that quote “Don’t trust anybody over 30” and the internet told me it was Jack Weinberg in 1964 during the Berkeley Free Speech Movement. It was funny how when most of us hit 40 we started saying the opposite…Now I say “Don’t trust anybody under 50!” (not really)

Tree Hugger
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Tree Hugger
1 year ago
Reply to  Farce

Jack Weinberg is correct. McLuhan was “The medium is the message” quote-guy. I am no different, ranting on coffee and should know better that I deserve to get fact-checked!

Eugene Denson
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Eugene Denson
1 year ago
Reply to  Farce

Great memory,I was trying to rememberJack’s name. Those were the days at Berkeley.

notheone
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notheone
1 year ago

😯 really? It’s that important? So many bad things happening and this is really not important.

Tree Hugger
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Tree Hugger
1 year ago

Is selling <6 retail clones to CA adults 18+ prohibited?

North westCertain license plate out of thousands c
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North westCertain license plate out of thousands c
1 year ago
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Clones are for sell in Mt Shasta and Weed. You can only buy 6 a day.
PS
The shittyest clones I’ve ever seen. $25.00 a pice

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
1 year ago

People forget though the farther the cuts from the original plant second third cut out those clones have hardly anything left in them they’re really stripped-down. Cannabis is a seed plant it’s an annual is meant to live a life span you can push it to 240 days. When you have clones that have already been alive 90 to 120 days in suspended animation, then you force them trying to make massive things happen it truly is a struggle. Buyer beware many of the larger producers are seeking profit yet do not consistently test across the span of the clone cuts. Just because a mother plant tests out at really high levels does not mean that her clones always will.
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Cee Watson
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Cee Watson
1 year ago

🤔So if there asked for a suggested donation…it probably would have been legal, correct?

Madrone is the best Supervisor in Humboldt
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Madrone is the best Supervisor in Humboldt
1 year ago

As usual our uneducated public miss what is really going on…..this is about creating a legitimate industry. If there are people breaking the track & trace rules they are being even worse than the outlaws just going straight black market. They are not only breaking the law selling clones on the black market, even though they’re licensed, they are killing the credibility of the legal multi billion dollar industry. In order for the legal cannabis market to thrive the farms, companies & growers who have licenses, but continue to sell their product through illegal methods, need to be eliminated. As long as people keep playing both sides of the field the legal market will never become profitable……..

Madrone is the best Supervisor in Humboldt
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Madrone is the best Supervisor in Humboldt
1 year ago

Would Budweiser or Molson “still” be here if they kept selling beer 🍺 out the back door 🚪 after prohibition ended?

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shortjohnson
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shortjohnson
1 year ago

I belive they did and are

Sekhmet
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Sekhmet
1 year ago

“still” be here. snicker

Hayforker
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Hayforker
1 year ago

If you don’t play both sides your out of business without huge backing. Who can operate at a loss year after year? Oh wait, large entities that can offset the losses against other profitable businesses activities! This is how the great consolidation occurs. It’s going down right now and only the biggest guys will be left standing.

Farce
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Farce
1 year ago
Reply to  Hayforker

You already don’t stand a chance. Throw in the towel- you are toast. And nobody wants to buy your parcel either…

Hayforker
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Hayforker
1 year ago
Reply to  Farce

? You must have been trying to reply to someone else as I don’t have land for sale or hold a permit. Truth is I don’t really even partake must anymore and you really have no clue who I am. But nice big fat try.

lostcoastsoul
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lostcoastsoul
1 year ago

Well lets take a stab at your uneducated rambling here. If there is to be a legitimate industry, then local LEO should adhere to state regulations. If this is a compliance issue as stated in the LEO rah rah article, then why was DCC not on site or not informed of this alleged “illegal” marketing? So your one sided notion above teeters on idiocy now doesnt it. About like your alias name.

Guest
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1 year ago

Is this guy getting trellis money, too?

Gina
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1 year ago

These people robbed me at gunpoint years ago. Stole all my equipment. Seen in the picture. SCUMBAGS, GO TO JAIL LOSERS

lostcoastsoul
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lostcoastsoul
1 year ago
Reply to  Gina

BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHA Aren’t you forgetting to tell the other side of that story? There is never just one side.

Fndrbndr
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Fndrbndr
1 year ago

Thanks Gina

Rio
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Rio
1 year ago

Did you call the social worker or did you go get a gun yourself

This Is My Name
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This Is My Name
1 year ago

They should lose their nursery license for sure.

MIchael Acosta
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MIchael Acosta
1 year ago

wtf?! isn’t this a civil regulatory matter that is the jurisdiction of the Department of Cannabis Control, State of California? Here’s a link with decisions of record:
https://cannabis.ca.gov/cannabis-laws/compliance-with-state-law/

lostcoastsoul
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lostcoastsoul
1 year ago
Reply to  MIchael Acosta

I wondered the same.

Fbnative
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1 year ago

Why would you endanger your legal farm. by selling clones illegally? Oh yeah GREED! Hard to feel sorry for stupidity.

NoGovernment
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NoGovernment
1 year ago

time to take away license