A Husband Gone: A Fort Bragg Resident Reflects on the Health Care That Was Missing When Her Spouse Needed It Most

Judy standing aside Ron with their Harleys on a cruise of the Mendocino County coast [Picture provided by Judy Valadao]

Judy standing aside Ron with their Harleys on a cruise of the Mendocino County coast [Picture provided by Judy Valadao]

Judy Valadao has lived in Fort Bragg for 35 years. She and her late husband Ronald raised their kids there, made their home there, and lived their lives there.

Ronald began to suffer medical complications associated with his digestive system in late 2020. She watched Ronald, a vibrant and powerful carpenter wither away to 90 pounds, unable to eat or move.

Ronald’s ailments would be the catalyst for a journey into the labyrinth of Mendocino County’s local health care system during the COVID pandemic. For over a year, the pair would navigate general practitioners, specialists, intensive care units, and emergency rooms, both on the coast and inland hoping and praying for the care Ronald needed to be well once again.

Desperate for medical treatment, Judy worked every angle she could at Adventist Health Mendocino Coast to get the specialists her husband needed. At one point, Ronald was hospitalized for three days where visitors were not allowed due to COVID-19 concerns, and Judy told us he would go hours without seeing a soul.

Ronald returned to the comfort of his home, in the care of Judy, still ailing from an illness that had stolen his verve and losing hope that he could get the medical care he desperately needed.

Ron Valadao before his health declined. Judy, his wife of 35 years, describes Ronald as a carpenter, a mill worker, contemplative and playful during quiet moments [Picture provided by Judy Valadao]

Ron Valadao before his health declined. Judy, his wife of 35 years, describes Ronald as a carpenter, a mill worker, contemplative and playful during quiet moments [Picture provided by Judy Valadao]

On February 5, 2022, Ronald was having a tough night. Judy remembered he struggled to breathe and walk. Judy walked him to the downstairs bedroom, tucked him in, and let their dogs get into bed with him who snuggled with him for a bit. Judy said goodnight and closed the door.

A little while later she heard what she initially thought was a door slamming. She put it aside for a few minutes and decided to peep in on Ronald. 

In a few seconds that would last an eternity, Judy realized that the sound she had heard was not a door slamming, but the firing of a handgun. Her husband of 35 years, hurting and hopeless, had taken his own life.

In a swirl of red and blue police lights, neighbors on porches, and strangers in her home, Judy realized the man she loved so deeply was gone. When he could not find the help he needed from the local medical system, he took the power into his hands.

How Could This Happen?

Judy, haunted by thoughts of Ronald alone in a hospital bed left untreated, began to reflect on the frailties of Mendocino County’s rural health care. 

She took to social media and posted an open letter to Mendocino County Public Health Officer Dr. Andrew Coren. In that open letter, Valadao asked Dr. Coren pointed questions about the role COVID-19 and associated pandemic protocols have had on Mendocino County’s health care systems. 

These questions, born of Valadao’s tragedy, strike at the heart of medical care’s complexities during a pandemic and the inevitability that any set of interventions, proven effective or not, could also induce injury.

Dr. Coren answered her questions to the best of his ability. 

Valadao wanted to know whether “folks with illnesses other than Covid have fallen through the cracks because of lack of beds/staff during this pandemic?”

Dr. Coren said he recognized there was a multitude of factors that could have contributed to patients falling through the cracks. 

He suggested that some patients postponed visiting a doctor due to concerns about contracting COVID-19 and others might have experienced long wait times delaying the required care. These complications could have been exacerbated by “institutional changes of policies and practice,s, Dr. Coren explained.

Alternative avenues to medical services, such as telemedicine, were “out of reach for many people with insufficient computer access,” Dr. Coren recognized.

Dr. Coren acknowledged that there is ample evidence chronic diseases got worse during the pandemic. Many patients were unable to adjust medications which might have led to “increases in severe illnesses requiring hospitalizations following admission to emergency departments.” 

The worsening of these chronic diseases could be seen in local hospitals as emergency rooms began to fill not with COVID-19 patients, but those stricken with chronic diseases.

Coupled with the decreased access to health providers, Valadao asked Dr. Coren if Mendocino County experienced a marked rise in deaths due to other causes. Outside of COVID-19, Dr. Coren said, “the only other causes that appear to have increased during the pandemic are deaths due to drug overdose, and suicide during the pandemic.

Judy told us she does not entirely trust the information Dr. Coren provided. “I think the real numbers would tell how many are suffering from other issues not COVID related and how many have been sent home because of the lack of beds/staff.”​​Dr. William Miller is the Chief of Staff at Adventist Health Mendocino Coast. He acknowledged Judy’s grief stating, “There are no words that can alleviate the family’s pain and suffering.” He reassured the community, however, that Adventist Health was using the story of Ronald to find “opportunities to improve.”

Dr. Miller told us that Ron’s experience was “influenced by a number of factors”, including “the occasional difficulty in transferring patients to higher levels of care due to lack of available beds,” a shortage exacerbated by COVID-19 surges, and the subsequent rise in hospitalizations.

Judy and Ronald married on August 22, 1987 [Picture provided by Judy Valadao]

Judy and Ronald married on August 22, 1987 [Picture provided by Judy Valadao]

Regarding Ron’s inability to have visitors during his stay at Adventist Health, Dr. Miller pointed toward restrictions mandated by the State of California “as part of the overall effort to reduce the spread and protect patients and staff at the height of the pandemic.”

Dr. Miller attributes Ron’s long delays in care to recent “shortages in staffing that are affecting healthcare throughout the country, including here on the Coast.” He went on to say that many patients of Adventist Health have experienced “long and often frustrating delays and we apologize for that and wish to reassure folks that we are working to fix these problems, including by aggressively recruiting…”

Rural health care facilities can prove difficult to staff, Dr. Miller explained, compared to larger, urban areas which are “more desirable, especially for young physicians.” Adventist Health will be hosting career fairs quarterly and exploring “all avenues to bring in new providers to serve our community.”

Fundamentally, Dr. Miller said that Adventist Health is “committed to this community and its hospitals and clinics.” He encouraged all patients of Mendocino County’s Adventist Health hospitals to provide feedback because “it is through hearing from our patients and their loved ones that we learn what we are doing well and what we need to improve on.”

Ronald in a quiet moment with his playful eyes and smile peeking through [Picture provided by Judy Valadao]

Ronald in a quiet moment with his playful eyes and smile peeking through [Picture provided by Judy Valadao]

Remembering Ron

Thinking back to her last night with Ron, Judy remembered how her once sturdy husband could not stand or walk. He could barely breathe and was only able to respond with a simple “yes” or “no.” Amid that pain, when Judy asked Ronald that night if he wanted to go to the hospital, he unequivocally said, “No.”

Judy Valadao now stays busy doing projects, renovating her kitchen, walking her dog, and remembering Ronald. She told us that nighttime is the hardest.

She is determined to not let the world forget what happened to her husband. She knows that the three days of isolation in the hospital led to Ronald’s loss of faith in the medical system and “sealed his fate.”

She loves the story of her mother calling the couple “hippies” when they first met and Ronald’s hair was long. She remembers his quiet smile, his playful ways, his love.

Ron and Judy Valadao around the time they first met. Judy laughs when she says her mom called the pair "a couple of hippies." [Picture by Judy Valadao]

Ron and Judy Valadao around the time they first met. Judy laughs when she says her mom called the pair “a couple of hippies.” [Picture by Judy Valadao]

While digging through her closets, Judy stumbled on a stack of letters Ronald had written her many years ago. One of them was what he titled his “Sweet Heart ‘Thank You’ List” describing all the reasons he fell in love with Judy. “Thank you for loving and trusting me.” “Thank you for making lots and lots of great memories.” Maybe the most relevant, Ronald thanked Judy, “Thank you for listening to me when I was down.”

Writer’s Note

First, for full disclosure, Judy Valadao is a good friend of this writer. She is also a contributor to his website, MendoFever, and has also staffed the Mendocino County COVID-19 press conference representing MendoFever.

Second, many aspects of the Emerald Triangle’s rural lifestyle lend themselves to suicide risk factors. Those risk factors, as described by the Center for Disease Control, include barriers to health care, social isolation, and high rates of adverse childhood experiences.

Please remember, if you or a loved one are suffering from mental distress many resources can be accessed including:

  • The National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI): 1-800-950-6264, [email protected]
  • Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA): (800) 662-4357
  • National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH): (866) 615-6464
  • Mental Health America Hotline: Text MHA to 741741
  • National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 1-800-273-8255
  • Crisis Text Line: Text CONNECT to 741741

In efforts to educate the public regarding suicide prevention, the following infographic from the National Institute of Mental Health guides warning signs associated with suicide:

In efforts to educate the public regarding suicide prevention, the following infographic from the National Institute of Mental Health provides guidance in warning signs associated with suicide:

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The Rich Medical corps own me..................
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The Rich Medical corps own me..................
2 years ago

America’s medical system is in shambles. It’s all about making a profit and less about providing care for extremely sick patients. And it is even worse in big cities. The name of the game is charge outlandish fees for the least items. Like $14 for an Aleve tablet. Or $125 for a nurse to check your temperature and BP. I know because I a shoulder replacement in San Francisco and my bill for four days in the hospital was $145,000 dollars not including the surgeon’s fees. I know because I requested an itemized bill from Sutter Hospital. Medicare paid for 80% and I am stuck with the remaining 20%. I’ve had to ask family members for money. Sell all of my valuables, use the equity in my house for a loan and I still need to make $780 payments a month probably until I die and then my estate is liable for the remaining medical bills. Big rich hospital Corporations own the medical system and the doctors. America has the worst medical system in the world. I would not be in this financial mess had I lived in Canada or one of the Scandinavian countries, or Demark or Belgium. My retirement is a life of a debtor. I live on nickels and dimes. I’m restricted to riding buses and eating at the Senior Center and relying on the Food Bank. Not what I had planned for my retirement after 51 years of working as a truck driver.

Kym Kemp
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2 years ago

I am so sorry. That is terrible.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
2 years ago

I believe a Medicare supplement plan would cover that 20% but you have to buy as soon as you lose private insurance at work otherwise they’ll decline coverage due to preexisting conditions. Probably too late to help you but others might want to consider a supplement to avoid ending in the same situation.

Hebilla Cinturón de Rodeo
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Hebilla Cinturón de Rodeo
2 years ago

Too bad we arent all born as medical billing specialists. Enjoy shopping the Healthcare “Marketplace”!

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
2 years ago

Call an insurance broker and they’ll give free Medicare supplement advice (hint: plan G)

Country Joe
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2 years ago

I have a Medicare Supplement Plan and it saves me money…

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago

It’s true that the cost to the individual would be far less. Unfortunately the cost for that freedom is having to wait a very long time to get what you want done.

Ashamed to be American
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Ashamed to be American
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

A common misconception in the U.S. is that countries with universal health care have much longer wait times. However, data from nations with universal coverage, coupled with historical data from coverage expansion in the United States, show that patients in other nations often have similar or shorter wait times.

The U.S. was on the higher side for the share of people who sometimes, rarely, or never get an answer from their regular doctor on the same day at 28%. Canada had the highest at 33% and Switzerland had the lowest at 12%. The U.S. was towards the lower end for the share of people waiting one month or more for a specialist appointment at 27%. Canada and Norway tied for the highest at 61% each and Switzerland had the lowest at 23%.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/health-care-wait-times-by-country

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/truth-wait-times-universal-coverage-systems/

And once you tease out the data on wait times for specialist, it is reveled that the wait time is shorter in Canada to see a specilist for non-elective and critical care. Also wait times in France and Germany (and many other nations with universal healthcare) are shorter then in the US.

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago

I don’t see where you got that conclusion- from your link “The U.S. was towards the lower end for the share of people waiting one month or more for a specialist appointment at 27%. Canada and Norway tied for the highest at 61% each and Switzerland had the lowest at 23%.” I know that it said something was similar in that link but they are not talking about the same thing. Those places, like Germany or the UK have clinic hours- patients go to the clinic and wait until the doctor can see them. And no having last minute decisions to enroll- you are enrolled. And they also will- gasp- send doctors to your home if need be. No one in the US has done that in years. In the US, doctors tend to infill for their regular patients- they generally won’t for new patients. But that referenced link for times is disingenuous- you’ll wait more than a day for a general doctor’s visit in the best country just like here. They will generally fit you in if you need faster visits, just like here (although the farce of urgent care clinics has been way too often used in Humboldt Co but that’s our location- it is pretty sucky.) The major differences come with referrals to specialists, surgeries and hosiptals.

https://www.expatica.com/ch/ is a reasonable look at how health care is supposed to look in various countries in Europe- remembering that things do not always go as expected.

Here is a more realistic view in what is touted as the best country- “https://www.thelocal.ch/20220419/what-you-should-know-about-finding-a-doctor-in-switzerland/ noting the health insurance compulsory there and not cheap. “In the best-case scenario, finding a good doctor will be easy. However, this is not always the case.”
That is because there is a shortage of primary care physicians in Switzerland, which is more problematic in some regions, according to the Swiss Medical Weekly journal.

And here is a more personal look at Swiss (rated the best for waiting times but that’s not for specialists)- a better look at reality in a country where no one lives more than a few miles from a population center. And who is ultimately responsible for their health care (hint- it is not the doctor.) https://alyssaowrites.com/2018/04/17/my-experience-with-the-swiss-healthcare-system-as-an-expat/

Ashamed to be American
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Ashamed to be American
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Not sure which conclution you are referring to but it shouldn’t be a mystery, it’s right there on the page I linked.

You can find people complaining about any healthcare system on Earth, even those that are empirically the best systems. That does not carry the same weight as individual stores.

First link you posted has no info on healthcare.

Second is about doctor retention in Switizerland.

From the thid lingk , top of the artilce,

if you are generally in good health, chances are that sooner or later you will have to seek medical care — that’s just how life is. This may sound daunting but the good news is that Swiss health care system is among the best in the world, so you can expect high quality care — even though it can come at a price. link top of the article,

Then note that healthcare is cheaper in Switerland,

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/how-do-healthcare-prices-and-use-in-the-u-s-compare-to-other-countries/

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/business/us—swiss-health-series–costs_do-american-and-swiss-patients-get-what-they-pay-for-/43680290

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago

That second linked article was really interesting. Obviously by a writer who is more interested in being complete than by an particular agenda which unfortunately is almost a constant among Americans.

Since you are not ‘sure, here’s more about conclusions. The one government payer advocates use the term like a magic spell to fix problems but never examine the issues closely. Above all they never examine the downsides in any way. They just assume they get want they want for free. It doesn’t work like that anywhere on the planet but especially doesn’t work like that here.

There are exchanges in a government run health program. My contention is that any government regulation has already made health care worse in Humboldt County for the same reasons it would be scary if they were in sole charge of all health care. US government is driven by the press and the press is focused on division and victim. Not what is principle. Good health care is rarely available in sparse population areas nor is it governed by what is best for the individual. It is governed by the squeaky wheel- the places with the most wheels and the most division squeaks the loudest. Government health care could not possibly be made more efficient in the absence of volume. Just like it acts already. Rural people are never even polled much less get attention.

Indeed there can be more efficacy in a one size fits all law and lower cost IF ALL THE PATIENTS INVOLVED ARE WILLING TO BE RESPONSIBLE. You know what Switzerland doesn’t have that the US has in abundance? Crime, violence, illegal uneducated and older immigrants, diverse racial identities and obesity. It does not have a strong political divide where it tends to be more practical than ideological, more conservative than liberal. It has- gasp- low unemployment.

Me and Mrs Jones
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Me and Mrs Jones
2 years ago

Here’s the solution.

DON’T GET SICK.

you’d be amazed at what taking your health for granted has done to western civilization.

Tax Kentucky Fried, Macdonalds, and all fast food, for giving us such shit health

Ashamed to be American
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Ashamed to be American
2 years ago

It’s a factor for sure but no where near a solution.

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago

Ya we need Obamacare. Oooops, nevermind, that didn’t work.

Hey I wonder if $7 gas and $5 lb ground beef have any correlation to money printing for “free” healthcare? Nah, Putin did it. Rachel Maddow said so.

Dano
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Dano
2 years ago

Sounds privileged…

Country Joe
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2 years ago

I’ve never been ashamed to be an American but if I was as ashamed to be an American as you are, I would leave and live elsewhere…

Dan
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Dan
2 years ago

California law requires hospitals to provide free or discounted care to uninsured patients who earn up to 3.5 times the federal poverty level ($44,660 a year for an individual, $91,700 for a family of four).

furies
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furies
2 years ago
Reply to  Dan

but the insurance cos will sic the debt collectors on you anyways

‘rights’ are only enforceable if you can hire a lawyer to defend them

ThrivalistD
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Thrivalist
2 years ago
Reply to  furies

Not until my late fifties did I realize that terrible reality. Also, lawyers are hard to come by up here. The Nation needs more proactive preventative protections and/or a way for people who can’t afford lawyer.

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Ashamed to be American
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Ashamed to be American
2 years ago
Reply to  Dan

They will still bill you and force you through the legal process of fighting them while they send you to collections.

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago

Boy would you have a problem with health care if you lived in most European countries- they will not ask for what you owe- they seize it.

Dano
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Dano
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Nonsense. Nobody is billed for healthcare in European countries!

Country Joe
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2 years ago
Reply to  Dano

Incorrect…

Me and Mrs Jones
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Me and Mrs Jones
2 years ago

…..offshore a counts

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rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Dan

Ya gee, I wonder why health care is so expensive? I’m sure millions of illegal aliens pouring over the border will drive the cost down even more.

Country Joe
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2 years ago
Reply to  rollin

American tax payers will waste over a $ Billion dollars on illegal aliens this year alone…Let’s Go Brandon…

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Steelhead
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Steelhead
2 years ago

https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/hospitals/federal-judge-grants-final-approval-575m-settlement-against-sutter-health#:~:text=A%20federal%20judge%20has%20granted,settles%20allegations%20of%20price%20gouging. Not sure if your aware of this landmark lawsuit against Sutter health. I disagree with where all the money went, When it should have been used to forgive you and others of this debt. Is filing for bankruptcy not an option for you?

deadmanwalkingwmd
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deadmanwalkingwmd
2 years ago

Actually, our medical system is only 41st in the world regarding access and quality of care. Pretty shabby for people who brag about what a great system we have and argue against a system that might work for everyone. For me, a trip to the Emergency Room cost $5000 for the 3 mile ambulance ride and $24,000 for the 8 hours in the ER. For a country that loves to talk about democracy and justice, we sure don’t seem to have much of it. See you at the Food Bank or the Senior Center.

Antichrist
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Antichrist
2 years ago

What does democracy and justice have to do with you or anyone else not paying for a service they use ? You have the freedom here in America to decide where you go and who you see for doctors. You dont get that so much other places. No one stopped you from living a different life, one that could have provided you with life long health insurance . No you chose to live your life a certain way working jobs that maybe paid better but had less bennies . You chose to spend your money on certain things verses saving for health costs and now are upset claiming that it is unjust that you should be expected to pay for what you use ? In this country if you dont like your options you can create different ones. No one is stopping you from starting your own hospital or health insurance company which you can run however you see fit and sink or swim based upon how you do

Dano
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Dano
2 years ago
Reply to  Antichrist

You are incredibly naive if you believe most people have that much choice. Privileged much?

ThrivalistD
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Thrivalist
2 years ago
Reply to  Dano

Choice theory rarely looks closely at menus and pretends we all have the same as if life were a fast “food” drive up.

Country Joe
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2 years ago
Reply to  Antichrist

Spot on…

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Country Joe

Big time…

ThrivalistD
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Thrivalist
2 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Not

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago

I was trapped in basically a cost controlled health care system- an HMO. And it almost killed me. I vote for at least the freedom to seek what care I decide I need over cheaper care chosen by others. I may not be able to afford what I want but there is no frustration like being denied even the attempt.

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago

First I’m deeply sorry for the personal lose this story represents.

Then a tale of two medical providers employed by the same health care business- one cancelled appointment after appointment for basically two years, citing increased covid prevented in person visits while a zoom call as ok but a phone call was not. If you didn’t have the ability to do video calls from home, tough luck. The other changed one in office visit to a phone interview then kept every other in person appointment with a modified waiting room check-in. Same pandemic, different responses.

The really strange thing is that I went along with both schemes because, while the first was off putting, I wasn’t convinced of their proficiency before the pandemic. At least not enough to push. While their services were needed, they were not really reliable before the pandemic either. The second provider, on the other hand, was very important to me before the pandemic and never let me down throughout the entire time.

The pandemic did not really change the work ethics of either provider. It did show up the the latent defects of a system so close to failure prior to the crisis that it wouldn’t cope with a real stress. We had already accepted any level of service, no matter how poor, because otherwise there would have been no practitioners at all. We have become very used to poor services here. The only question is have we earned our lack of medical providers. The pandemic didn’t create this problem. It just made it clear that how unattractive being a doctor here has become. We used the old ones up and can’t seem to be able to replace them. At least honestly professional ones.

Nick
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Nick
2 years ago

All of this pain and suffering the last two years just to remove Trump from office. “By any means necessary”. Millions of similar stories around the world, my family included, all for a virus with a 99.5% survival rate. I’m so sorry for your loss, I and countless others understand your pain and frustration.

furies
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furies
2 years ago
Reply to  Nick

you are mistaken about the risks of Covid

Me and Mrs Jones
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Me and Mrs Jones
2 years ago
Reply to  furies

Ignorance and apathy much worse.

But if you want to believe there isn’t a plan to replace the people who have grown lazy and feel entitled, Juan, Maria, mohammed, Yuri, misha and all the economic refugees from countries will do your job at 50 to 75% of your current wage.

Close the fucking border and then let’s talk about what we expect from these Money hungry corporate ball lickers

Wayne
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Wayne
2 years ago
Reply to  Nick

What a sick comment. Seek help buddy.

Ashamed to be American
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Ashamed to be American
2 years ago
Reply to  Nick

Dumbest comment in a while and thats saying a lot.

Nan
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Nan
2 years ago
Reply to  Nick

The government spent the same going after President Clinton.

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Me and Mrs Jones
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Me and Mrs Jones
2 years ago
Reply to  Nick

Don’t let the liberal ankle biters bother you. The problem is staring back at us in the mirror, and yet people have been enslaved for millenia, the only thing that has changed is how the enslaved love their servitude

Valet Service
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Valet Service
2 years ago

Empower yourself. Go work at Mara Lago.

Cindy
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Cindy
2 years ago

So sorry for your loss Judy. I have found that the best course of action if you have any serious health issue is to go elsewhere for specialty care. I know it is a pain to have to travel outside the area (I actually have to travel to the Stanford lab in Emeryville for one of my blood tests because they can’t do it here or send it out even) but the level of care is so much better it makes it worth it.

deadmanwalkingwmd
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deadmanwalkingwmd
2 years ago
Reply to  Cindy

My first rule in medical care, if I am truly ill, is go to San Francisco even if you have to hitchhike or worse yet, ride that 10.5 hour Greyhound. It will probably save your life. It did mine for the short-term anyway. Not so, for the medium term.

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago

Yes. Unfortunately, yes.

Aaaa1
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Aaaa1
2 years ago

Thanks, good to know.

Aaaa1
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Aaaa1
2 years ago
Reply to  Cindy

Well said.

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago

So sorry.
I understand the grief and frustration of this, and offer condolences. But since it’s been brought to the fore of public discussion, I personally dont grasp the “Covid connection.” Maybe I’m being obtuse. Three days alone or delays in care shouldn’t drive the average man to suicide.

The reality is, pandemic or not, any grown man (or woman) reduced to a portion of their body weight, and so weak they are rendered unable to speak or function normally, the options, if treatment isnt one, are limited. And suicide, as controversial and traumatic as that is, is always one option for everyone.

Some people pursue ending their physical suffering through the right to dignified dying, which is legal in California and a few other states. And some like Ronald pursue it on their own terms. Who are we to second guess those choices?

Obviously this was the traumatic and messier choice . But in the end, it accomplished what the person wanted.

I’m more curious about what the diagnosis was for “medical complications associated with his digestive system” that caused this strong man to wither to 90 pounds. That is not disclosed. Nor is any treatment that was prescribed, or being refused. What was this “illness” that our rural health care system could not provide the “medical care he desperately needed?”

He had been released to home care, but was that against doctors advice? And most troubling, were prescription drugs contributing to his mental and emotional decline? Those are the questions I’d be asking.

Or, if this really was another Covid casualty, point to the experimental “vaccine” if he had one, or more. Because despite what the vax obsessed “health” officials and dear media darlings profess, the incideous immediate and long-term vascular and systemic side effects of intentionally injecting spike protein generating mRNA are real.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

First, condolences to Judy and her family.

Secondly, right before Covid, my father was failing and the regional hospital system has no idea what was wrong with him (and would spend several hours in the ER waiting room a couple of times, that was BS)…so much so that they sent him up to a very good university hospital 3 or 4 hours north of his home (in an ambulance). Even that hospital could never pin down what happened to him. To this day, we aren’t clear what caused his decline. He returned to the large hospital up north a few times. He “died” at home, in that the person who was my father walked on, though his body barely clung to life for a few more hours. Covid had arrived by this time and my mother couldn’t go to the hospital with the paramedics and directed, by phone, to remove life support.

He was a tall man who died weighing 135 lbs. Things happen and the questions remain. But he had not gotten a vaccine. My point is that no matter what healthcare system, sometimes this happens.

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Life Insurance
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Life Insurance
2 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

I think committing suicide negates life insurance policies. I’m not sure about that. Don’t know if this applies to the VA insurance. One should check policies to make sure.

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  Life Insurance

Assisted dignified dying as provided by California law is not considered suicide. They list cause of death as whatever your terminal illness was. While taking your own life with a firearm, sick or not, is of course obviously considered suicide.

Mr. BearD
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Mr. Bear
2 years ago
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On my policy it’s covered if it happens at least 2 years after the policy becomes effective

furies
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furies
2 years ago
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wow

unbeliveable

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Steve Koch
2 years ago
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True, assisted suicide is legal in California. If you decide to do that, you have to pass a psychological test to prove you are in your right mind and a doctor has to certify that you have a terminal illness that is expected to kill you in less than 6 months.

If you pass those 2 criteria, you then need to get a doctor to prescribe pills that will kill you. You have to take those pills by yourself.

The article that I read about the California assisted suicide law did not specify the name of the pills the doctor prescribes to end your life.

deadmanwalkingwmd
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deadmanwalkingwmd
2 years ago
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Or you can just say screw all that bureaucratic nonsense and do what you want. If you can’t figure out how to skip off this mortal coil, you have huge problems anyway. I respect his courage and feel for your loss.

Hebilla Cinturón de Rodeo
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Hebilla Cinturón de Rodeo
2 years ago
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They won’t talk about that with Dad. Oh but chemo?! ” Yeah you are hours from deaths door, this is gonna make you feel like shit as you die anyway…but until you go bankrupt, we think you might be the first human to live FOREVER!”

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Steve Koch
2 years ago

I have been through that experience, terribly sad and totally infuriating at the same time. This too shall pass.

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Got logic ?
2 years ago
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No psychological test necessary as of Jan 2022. You DO have to be a resident, expected to die within 6 months, and of “sound mind” to make that choice but that is determined subjectively by your care providers.

You are still required to request it verbally and in writing and have your terminal diagnosis confirmed by a second physician, meds must also be self administered but there are multiple avenues besides oral pills. They have lowered have the parameters a great deal.

https://californiahealthline.org/news/article/new-california-law-eases-aid-in-dying-process/amp/

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Steve Koch
2 years ago
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Still sounds like a terrible process to force a terminally person to have to go through.

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Got logic ?
2 years ago
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No one can force them that’s the point of the protocols. And juxtaposed to the lingering pain-riddled demise from a terminal illness its relative ease becomes obvious.

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Dano
2 years ago
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My gosh this is full of lies and misinformation. Blaming it on vaccinations? Why is this comment even appropriate?

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Got logic ?
2 years ago
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Why is blaming this man’s suicide on covid an appropriate theme of an entire post? Especially when a bulk of the 5 W’s plus the H are absent from this “report.”

Namely what the diagnosis was for “medical complications associated with his digestive system” was, and what treatment was prescribed, or being refused, the “illness” that our rural health care system could not provide the “medical care he desperately needed” is unnamed. It also describes him released to home care, but was that against doctors advice? Prescription drugs that can contribute to mental and emotional decline were also not mentioned.

So one is left to fill in the blanks . If the grieving spouse wants to go public and conclude “Covid is to blame,” then the thoughtful reader can raise counterpoints. And why not wag a finger at the “vaccinations” which statistically he had a good chance of having one or more of, and are well documented to bring about a slew of risks, side-effects and death? It doesnt take a ton of common sense to make that hypothesis.

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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
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I believe that the woman’s claim was that she believes that the 3 days of isolation in hospital destroyed her husband’s faith in the local medical care options and thus contributed to his sense of hopelessness around ever finding relief from his illness

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Polly
2 years ago

So sorry you went through this…a terrible loss. Mendocino County’s medical system is inadequate and not to be trusted. It’s also monopolized in Ukiah by Adventist Health.
Again, sorry for what you’ve gone through and suffered.

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Martin
2 years ago

That article about Judy trying to seek medical attention for Ron just hurt me to the core. I can’t imagine the hell they were going through to get Ron help. I sincerely don’t blame Ron for taking what was left of his life. He had reached a point of no return. RIP Ron. Judy, you are one of the best wives a man could ever have. I am so very sorry for your loss. Ron is riding his Harley in Heaven and waiting for the day you come so you both can ride free once again. God Bless.

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Mike Tubbs
2 years ago

To say this loss is because of Covid is nothing more then an excuse or a way to try to prove your not responsible. Ron’s may have taken his own life but he did it because of the medical attention he did not receive in Fort Bragg. Crohn’s disease is a very painful disease that is unbearable to the human body and without treatment your done. Ron was a very sick man that went to the hospital in Fort Bragg and to several doctors who just tried to pass him on to someone else. To all of those who treated Ron, you are responsible for his death and should acknowledge the fact. Quit trying to us covid as a excuse for your personnel failures.

Vet
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Vet
2 years ago

MEDICARE4ALL is the only solution. Demand it. California is trying to pass it right now but we need it at the federal level.

furies
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furies
2 years ago
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or even better; full universal health care for all citizens

like other civilized countries

Ashamed to be American
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Ashamed to be American
2 years ago
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We have fallen behind the rest of the West in so many ways thanks to our conservatives.

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago

We have fallen behind because liberalism has become a weapon against responsibility.

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deadmanwalkingwmd
2 years ago
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I believe it was Oscar Wilde but it has lots of attribution, who, when asked by a reporter what he thought of western civilization, answered in all seriousness, “It would be a good idea.”

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Jean Lopez
2 years ago

It was Mahatma Gandhi who said it, actually. “I think it would be a good idea” were his exact words. Though I can imagine Oscar Wilde saying it.

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Nooo
2 years ago
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I think Ghandi was talking about Christianity.

spamned
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spamned
2 years ago

Close-Gandi said that~

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago

Oscar Wilde quote- “If one could only teach the English how to talk, and the Irish how to listen, society here would be quite civilized.” Substitute conservative and liberal and there you’d be.

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
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Like other civilized countries have in essence no borders.

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spamned
2 years ago
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You’re gonna love climate change~

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Hebilla Cinturón de Rodeo
2 years ago
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Brius siphoned the last of my Grandpa’s savings. He worked his whole life for GE. My other Grandpa was taken to a different hospital than usual during a blizzard, my sister had to stop them from removing a gall bladder that we remembered him already having removed when we were kids in the 80s. My Dad’s got leukemia, and diabetes, went in to the hospital with pneumonia, then to a care home, then last week had sepsis, back to the ER, then yesterday, they dropped him off back at home at 8:00 at night, after 3 hrs. notice! After a career of payments to Kaiser, they’re still on the hook for a fortune to pay for this “care”. Thanks “healthcare marketplace”. He can’t walk, my mom’s getting dementia. It’s hard for her to navigate this stuff. This is killing four of us and a family business. My Aunt lived in Canada since the 60’s. Cancer caught up with her, but when she had to go into the Hospital, she called everyone, said “This is it.” And passed the next day. It was between her and her doctors, but it seems like she was able to choose her own time with medical assistance. Way more dignified, and easy for her.

Nick
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Nick
2 years ago
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Medicare4all would have made this so much worse. How’s that V.A workin for ya?

Hebilla Cinturón de Rodeo
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Hebilla Cinturón de Rodeo
2 years ago
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The VA actually was pretty helpful with my Grandpa in law. He had no “regular” doctor, but the insurance/billing system had his 90 year old wife trying to load him up in the car for appointments all over the Bay Area 3-4 times a week. During COVID! She’d get going at 8:00 to get him to an appointment at 1:00. The VA doc was the first to look at the whole picture and tell them: look he doesn’t need to go have his teeth cleaned, he doesn’t need to get skin cancer burnt off. His condition, or the drive, or COVID was gonna kill him way before a mole, or tartar. The system didn’t look at him as one person, but just a vessel to pay out for endless appointments.

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deadmanwalkingwmd
2 years ago
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I can’t speak for it myself, but my brother, who is a vet finally went and said he got the best care that he had ever gotten anywhere. He couldn’t understand why it had taken him so damned long to go. If vets get sick, they can go to SF to the Vets Hospital or UCSF, one of the best hospitals in this country and they are transported for free. So for him, the VA worked out just fine and he is still kicking at 75.

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Permanently on Monitoring
2 years ago
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Medicare really sucks, and if everyone had to be on Medicare, there would be a revolution…

Medicare 4 all folks should try being on Part D, Part E and pay for A,B,D,and E themselves…

You would never ask for Medicare 4 all again!

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Vet
2 years ago

MEDICARE4ALL:
No premiums
No co-pays
Choice of doctors & hospitals
No cap on cost
Mental healthcare
Dental care
Vision care
No “gatekeeper”

Cost: about half (paid by taxes)what current premiums & copays amount to.
Better outcomes.

The Canadian “waiting list” is a myth perpetuated by your insurance company.

EDUCATE YOURSELF

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Healthcare Provider
2 years ago
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I received further education from my Uncle who lived and died in Calgary. He languished on Canadian waiting lists to get the specialized care required to treat a not-so rare condition. Canadian system is great for preventative care. Specialty care… you will wait, wait, wait. Troll somewhere else!

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Permanently on Monitoring
2 years ago
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It will never happen…

deadmanwalkingwmd
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deadmanwalkingwmd
2 years ago

Medicare sucks because Republicans keep trying to kill it and/or privatize it. It has worked well for me, but I am patient and read the rules and regulations.

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Permanently on Monitoring
2 years ago

OH, Biden and Reagan fucked Social Security and Medicare, back in the 80’s.

80,000,000 newly retired beneficiaries are pissed off, and change will surely come…

Medicare 4 all would never work, and there is no free lunch in America, except for the poor…

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Healthcare Provider
2 years ago
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Haven’t your views caused enough pain and suffering? Whatever happened to The Affordable Care Act? It was the deal that was cut with Insurance/Corporate Hospitals. It’s the reason for the “tiered” Medical Care we have today! CA Legislature recently turned away “Single Payer”. Reason… according to Democrats that tanked it was – “it costs too much”. Even the Progressives were hesitant to pile the confiscatory taxes needed to fund the cost on constituents. California can’t print money… the Feds/Medicare for all? How’s that Fed. inflation working out for you now? “If you like your Dr. You can keep your Dr. “. Only your Dr. Is now in SF. Can you afford SF prices and the gas to see your Dr.?

furies
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furies
2 years ago

yeah call the suicide hotline and get the cops at your door with guns pulled

no thanks

there are “warm” lines in California now staffed by peers

go there for help

O another death cuz Covid~

we’ll never know the true number who have been sacrificed to capitalism

cuz nobody’s counting!!

deadmanwalkingwmd
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deadmanwalkingwmd
2 years ago
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In the ’70’s when we were fighting against the monopoly ATT had on phone service and all things telecommunication, we put out a bumper sticker that caught the essence of them. It has a picture of the famous Bell representing ATT at the time and said, We are the phone company, we don’t care, we don’t have to. Capitalism hasn’t changed much and won’t unless it’s forced to. That’s how it feels with health care in this country. We don’t care, we don’t have to.

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Permanently on Monitoring
2 years ago

I love your stories…

Capitalism has changed, but now we have “passive income” as our new national model!

Yes! Some “passive income” for everyone, and then you won’t need an actual job!

Instead of Medicare 4 All, I’m voting for “passive income for all”!

As far as socialized medicine, it wouldn’t manufacture enough income for the wealthy, and not enough “passive income” for the investors…

Please consider these subjects, and then think about the “Bikini Baristas” in Seattle…

That’s what we need: Bikini Baristas in Humboldt!

Not Blind
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Not Blind
2 years ago

We had that. Bikini brews. Right in eureka. Went out of business. Guess the Dutch Bros. mafia is real…😂

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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
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The Venezuelan woman that took over that place makes some good coffee though. I typically make my own but she’s a welcome option for sure

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rollin
2 years ago

The mindless democrat never stops to ask himself: why did America once have the most envied healthcare system in the world? Why did such a disproportionate amount of the greatest medical inventions come from America during that time? And how was that envied, innovative healthcare system also COMPLETELY affordable only two generations ago? Is it just a coincidence that like college, health care costs have SKYROCKETED in tandem with government intervention while services got shittier? 

Naaaah, must be capitalism-derrrrp! In the same way an abused housewife goes back to her abuser, in the same way the overtaxed democrat votes for more taxes to “fix the roads” (that won’t get fixed), the delusional democrat looks to the government to solve the healthcare problems that the government created.

Liberalism is a mental disorder!

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K11111
2 years ago

I feel her pain! My mom got cancer when she was 27, if the Dr had told her she should do radiation because the removal site was so close to her lymph nodes she’d probably still be here. So many people would be here if we received the same level of care as wealthy people do. RIP and condolences to his loved ones!

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Ashamed to be American
2 years ago
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Im sure Haforker will be along to suggest people simply work harder and smarter so that they can all access healthcare for the wealthy.

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Aaaa1
2 years ago
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Exactly.

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Ashamed to be American
2 years ago

It is a fear of We The People on the part of conservatives that has allowed monied interests to run away with our government. So long as we remain rabidly individualistic, and refuse to act as a society, they will have their way.

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spamned
2 years ago

totes~

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Permanently on Monitoring
2 years ago

A very toxic culture, dishonest Administration, poor managers
(Former Employee) – Willits, CA, St Helena, CA 

What to Expect if Adventist Health Comes to Town
by Michael Turner, MD

So the Adventist advance team has come to town and made a number of vague proposals. It’s hard to know what to make of their pitch, isn’t it? Having worked in their system for almost two decades I can offer a few observations and perhaps, predictions. I’m not going to tread softly, because I think religious based health organizations, with their secretiveness and unstated goals, are a bad fit for community based health care based on transparency and honest communication.

The effect of Adventist Health coming to your area will be mostly bad, but there will probably be some immediate benefits. Your health facility will be spiffed up. Adventist has deep pockets and can fund improvements in the physical plant far more easily than the local community. The hospital will look better and function better. Outwardly, it will reflect well on the community. You can also expect a surge in employment. (Adventist Health employs 15% of the labor force in inland Mendocino.) And many of these jobs will be good jobs. Over the years I saw many young people begin at entry level positions and advance to stable long term careers in health care. And, because it is well capitalized, many measures of health care will improve.

But what about those negatives?

Loss of Community Control. No matter what they say in their presentation, Adventist does not care about local communities. They think in larger terms. What they actually care about is their planned strategy to control rural health care in Northern California. Financial decisions are always made on a regional level. Your facility’s budget will eventually be controlled by a distant corporate executive. If there’s a major problem down the road, the local community leaders will never be able to communicate within the upper reaches of the Adventist hierarchy. Adventist will probably propose some plan for shared decision-making with the local community, but in the end it will be window-dressing – all decisions of financial consequence flow downward from corporate headquarters in Roseville. To step back, Adventists are a community to themselves. In their world people are divided into the Adventists, and the “worldly people.” When Adventists talk about doing things for the community, regardless of good intentions, they actually mean for “their” community. Ultimately their myopic decision-making process excludes non-members.

Greatly Increased Cost of Health Care. The Adventist’s strategy historically has been to create small geographic monopolies and then jack up prices. For example in Ukiah the cost of diagnostic services are always at least double the price of similar tests done in Santa Rosa. Furthermore their aim is to drive consumers to more expensive care, such as elective surgeries, high tech imaging studies, and hospitalizations vs. preventive medicine and outpatient care. You only have to drive through Ukiah and look at their billboards to see their strategy. If Adventist comes to town you can expect to see a big jump in your health care costs, and the community will see a rise in medically related bankruptcies.

Profiteering. Why, you may ask, would a non-profit health organization try to grossly increase the cost of my community’s health care? Because they are non-profit in name only, a huge amount of money goes to directly into the coffers of the larger Adventist organization. It’s a corporate secret, but one estimate I heard from someone who would know is that 10% of gross revenue goes directly to the larger corporation. And then there’s the matter of nepotism.

Nepotism. Local Adventist administrators make huge amounts of money. The last time I looked the top administrator of the Ukiah hospital was making over $800,000 per year and many others had salaries far in excess of those made by doctors or nurses. And (this is important) you have to be a member of the Church to occupy an upper tier administrative position. Non-Adventists need not apply – it’s an explicit rule. In a way health care is their racket; where there is an Adventist community, there will be a health care facility that employs lots of Adventists in well paid white collar roles. Fundamentally Adventist Health is not an actual non-profit organization. What they call “administrative costs” I call a huge salary boondoggle paid for by the working class of the local community.

Incompetence. This is always the necessary corollary of nepotism. Many functionaries obtain their position based solely on their church status, particularly if they are related to other church members. For example, neither of my last two practice managers had any previous health care experience. The result is a laughably incompetent bureaucracy. As a provider I dealt constantly with untrained employees, unworkable communication systems, shortages of supplies, and many more problems caused by by blissfully obtuse management. From the consumer perspective you can expect consequences like poor communication, long wait times, and lots of mistakes in addition, of course, to increased costs.

Loss of choice. The name of the game in health care is “risk management.” That is, Adventist would like to create a large pool of consumers and control them through their insurance coverage, like employee-based insurances, MediCal (Partnership), and Medicare supplemental plans. Once Adventist is assigned care for x amount of patients they then contract with doctors to deliver that care. In this model the more you hold down cost, the higher the profit. And the best way to hold down cost is to limit care, either by outright refusal (“not a covered service”), or by restricting care to a single network, ie. Adventist Health. Thus in Mendocino you can expect to see only an Adventist approved doctor, receive only approved services at an Adventist lab, and receive specialty care in far away Adventist facilities like St. Helena or even Loma Linda. If your doctor isn’t on their panel, you’ll have to find a new doctor. And forget about going to Santa Rosa or UCF if you want a second opinion.

Duplicity. This is a highly personal issue for me, and I cannot say to what degree it applies in a wider sense. But I remember leaving a meeting with an Adventist exec and thinking “he just lied to me!” It’s been my experience that for sanctimonious people, dishonesty employed for a “higher good” is not wrong. Expect that no matter what assurances and promises are given to your local leaders, no matter what it says on a signed piece of paper, your agreement with Adventist will mutate into something you didn’t anticipate, and over time, become increasingly favorable to Adventist aims.

Physician flight. Since my arrival in Ukiah two decades ago, the number of practicing physicians has been cut by more than half. Why? First of all, lack of replacement. Adventist Health is regarded as a third tier organization by many young doctors, who choose to work for more competent systems like Kaiser. And more immediately, Adventist drove many practicing doctors from the area by heavy-handed methods like forcing the community hospital (Ukiah General) out of business, and more recently, insisting that local doctors become Adventist employees. If Adventist comes to town, expect a greater than 50/50 likelihood that your doctor will retire or leave town.
AdventHealth headquarters, Altamonte Springs, Florida

If AH really decides to come to the coast, you probably can’t stop them. They have been employing a successful takeover strategy in small towns all over Northern California for more than twenty years. But before putting their signature on anything, your leaders should talk to community leaders in places like Ukiah and Lodi and Hanford and Feather River and see what really happens when Adventist Health come to town.

—Michael Turner, MD (retired)

My comment:
In addition, Adventist Health runs skeleton staff, routinely runs afoul of State and Federal law pertaining to staffing levels, and Adventist Health will regularly and normally risk patient safety to save money.

Adventist Health encourages department managers to lie to staff, abuse and harass staff, and to gas-light the staff.

Do yourself a favor, don’t work for AH if you don’t have to…

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Thinkthenact
2 years ago

Ah, Judy, I am so sorry for your loss. You are a gem, a wonderfully strong and loving human being. Thank you for the courage to share your story.

Martin
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Martin
2 years ago

Kim, I sure wish that “warning signs of suicide” was not placed on a family’s loss on an article such as this one. I am sure it hurts them when they see it. Ron had no choice left and I admire him for doing what he did.

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2 years ago
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And I sure wish people were more aware of the number of suicidal people there are in this world. I hope we didn’t hurt Judy but I’m pretty sure that having information more available about suicide will save people’s lives.

Martin
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Martin
2 years ago
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I agree Kim that the more people that know about suicide is bound to help. I just felt really bad for Judy and family if they saw it. Thanks for your input.

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Dano
2 years ago

Wealthiest country in the world and our healthcare system is a s__thole system. Twenty percent comes off the top just to pay administrative costs. Administrative costs of medicare are about 1%. Why do we think we need insurance companies? WHat value do they add to the system? They do not improve care. They don’t add value to the system.

I recently received a cortisol shot in my shoulder at Providence Pain clinic in Eureka. The bill was $8500!!! I was surprised my fed gov Blue Cross insurance actually covered $6000. However, that left me with a $2500 bill for a procedure that literally took minutes. I spent more time there filling out paperwork and being monitored for who knows what. I had two shots last year and now owe $5k. I can’t afford to get any more and now I can’t sleep. Of course, the DRS won’t prescribe anything for the pain because big pharma decided to go into the illegal drug biz. There shouldn’t be any question why people resort to street drugs to help with pain. I haven’t, but I can say after not sleeping for a few days getting a fix to get some sleep certainly has crossed my mind. It affects every aspect of my life and I am only 55.

No other developed country relies on a private insurance based system to help deliver care. No other developed country gets so poor of care for so much money. Are we really that ignorant where we think this is acceptable? The only reasonable solution is to first eliminate the health insurance industry and control the outrageous waste and high cost of our healthcare system.

My condolences to the Valadao Family.Your story should have never happened.

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rollin
2 years ago
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So your FED GOV Blue cross insurance paid $6000 of an $8500 bill, for a shot!!!! and your conclusion is we need government involvement? Brilliant!

In a free market system you could have your entire shoulder operated on for less than that but yeah, we need more government!

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spamned
2 years ago
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the vaunted
free market system
is why we’re where we are

It encourages GREED and MONOPOLY

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rollin
2 years ago
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Dano shows you government health care charging $8500 for a shot to the shoulder. I show you a free market ENTIRE shoulder surgery for $6000.

Your conclusion: the free market is bad

Let me guess, you were educated in government schools, not free market ones? LOL!

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2 years ago
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And government doesn’t encourage greed? Even the most liberal can not say it doesn’t create monopoly when it is the epitome of monopoly. And heaven knows, the people who give government its operating rules- politicians- are the most greedy of all. And they serve the latest wave of voters only- not the best.

The value of a free market is that it allows everyone a chance to participate without having to get permission. The downside is that it allows everyone a chance to participate without having to get permission. Which is why a pure free market nor a government controlled market is ever successful long term. And anyone who thinks either is best has not looked long or hard enough.

Having a great government public health plan is a very unlikely. We keep picking at every institution already until it stops functioning. Just because none are perfect enough for those who don’t get everything they want. But even partly attempting it has already damaged the free market and, most directly, local care. You see it as a shining city on the hill. I know that the closer to that shining city, the more the cracks show but by then it’s too late to turn back.

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2 years ago

Judy I’m so sorry Ron can’t still be with you but bless you for understanding him and the situation he was in.
My worst complaint so far has been the lack of prompt care. Waiting weeks for an MRI machine to open is making drug dependent people on purpose

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Lacewing
2 years ago

We can lobby for universal health care in California through One for All – California
Heathcareforall.org

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Debra Thomas
2 years ago

I’m so sorry for your loss. It deeply saddens me. My loved one fell through the cracks of care because of Covid. He was to be transported to an ICU level bed in cardiac hospital but the transported him to Providence from fortuna to Eureka, and was to be transported out but they forgot? They never told any of us including him that he was to be transported to SRMH ICU but instead they gave him antibiotics and threw him out of the hospital.
He passed away needing an noninvasive heart surgery. The love of my life is gone because the breakdown of doctor shortages and because nobody could be with them to know what was supposed TO HAPPEN!
My deepest condolences.

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Dude
2 years ago

Humboldt isn’t much better. This really struck a chord with me because for the past month I’ve been dealing with a mysterious digestion issue that has been causing weight loss, severe gas and bloating, constipation which leads to shortness of breath and sometimes asthma, and a whole host of other things including occasional heart palpitations and insomnia (due to shortness of breath) and sometimes even sleep apnea. To see my primary physician I have to sometimes wait weeks, and they are always in a hurry to go to the next person. I’ve had to go to the ER twice and both times were a horrible experience. To see a gastrologist, which there are very few in this county, I have to wait months while whatever I’m dealing with gets worse. I’ve had to go on medical leave from work because this whole ordeal has left me in shambles. People don’t often associate digestive issues with shortness of breath, but issues like SIBO, hiatal hernias, and other forms of gastritis other than h. pylori are often overlooked. As new information comes out about these conditions, especially from Cedar Sinai, no one is really paying attention outside of patients that spend their entire night researching what is wrong with them, then the doctors don’t listen because they don’t want to learn new things, especially from a stressed out patient.
I’ve called every primary physician and GI in Humboldt, and many in Redding even, and it’s always “we aren’t accepting new patients”, or my insurance isn’t good enough. My mom said she would pay cash for anything I needed, but they won’t even take cash. What the hell is wrong with this county, and ultimately state? You have no idea how ridiculous this is. I cannot get the care I need in a timely manner, but instead have to wait weeks and months.
I can feel his pain.

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Nooo
2 years ago
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Get a referral anyway you can to where the specialists are- UCSF is the closest here. Period. Open Door might accommodate. A referral to the local “specialists” is a crap shoot where the odds don’t favor the player. I was lucky to find a recently arrived doctor to do that but like so many good ones, he only stayed a couple of years. Make a friend of a local nurse of medical assistant so you sign up with a new doctor the day they arrive. Otherwise you’re stuck. It doesn’t matter whether you have good insurance or not. They do what the ACA and/or Medicare Boards advise and nothing more, even if it is useless. Eventually they decide it’s all in your head anyway.

Why cash doesn’t work? I offered that to an out of area specialist when I was sick and basically it was no referral, no appointment. Because it turned out that Medicare rules covered them even though I wasn’t on Medicare. Those rules in essence say that they cannot treat patients differently if they have even one Medicare patient they expect to bill. With Medicare it’s all or nothing and few doctors can afford nothing. And Medicare shapes the whole system- private insurance or government. Even though I had a doctor, he just kept shining me on with setting up test after test locally or referrals to local specialists who accomplished nothing. When I finally got referral to UCSF, one visit got me set up for the right test, the test lead to a surgery and within three months, I recovered. After more than 10 years of local failure. I know it seems like an unreasonable burden but there is really no alternative. The kind of insurance you have makes no difference even if some if commenters here think it’s all capitalist greed.

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willow creeker
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2 years ago

Getting old is tough. Sometimes more than we can handle. We recently lost a good man in the community here in the Trinity valley, to suicide, by way of a terminal illness.
The medical system is a joke, we need universal health care like all civilized countries. It will mean higher taxes, but the benefits are worth it. We need to shake up the system.

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Forced retirement
2 years ago
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There is a very large number of aging elders. They will stress the system out beyond health care options. There are too many old Senators and Representatives who have, thru their constant re-elections, slowed the political process down to the point that nothing gets done. There needs to be a Congressional policy/law of an elected Congressperson get two terms and you out for good. People like McConnell and Grassley, Cruz and many more need to be retired. But it will take their deaths before that will happen. We need too many knew people in Congress to change the Country’s outdated mandates. Most are corrupt beyond what this Country needs in the way of changed laws and policies.

Hebilla Cinturón de Rodeo
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2 years ago
Reply to  willow creeker

It’s difficult for us average folks to comprehend the wealth of the richest. Elon Musk, and Jeff Bezos could personally fund CAs socialized medicine, and still have too much money to spend in a lifetime. Let’s say after the Divorce, Jeff had 30 Billion dollars:
It would take you 300,000 years, netting $100,000 per year to earn that. Bezos alone could spend $1,427 per minute for 40 years. (County Planning “Staff time” could eat that up pretty quick!) After WWII Nelson Rockefeller was the only person in the highest, 90% income tax bracket. He did just fine. The rich like to trick you into voting for what’s good for them. They offer you a reduction from say 30%to 27%,while in the long run they’ve gone from paying 80% to 20%.

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Forced retirement
2 years ago

Besos gets money back from his taxes. In 2018 he received nearly one billion tax dollars return from our Gov’t. What’s with that? And don’t forget he and tens of other ultra rich people have politicians in their back pocket. Like Al Capone did in the 1930’s. We must find a way to establish term limits on Federal elected Senators and Representatives. Two or a max of three terms and your out of running for office. It is the only way the Middle Class can change and terminate FAT CAT politicians from holding office. And only we can make that happen. Call, write and email young recently elected and demand they begin the process of passing term limits. The Office of Presidency has term limits why shouldn’t the Congress have them?

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Nooo
2 years ago

Well that’s an exaggeration. What the rich have is a hundred tax lawyers to figure out how to get money that is not taxed as if it was wages. The non rich are just stuck. That is not the fault of the rich but the fault of those who vote for a politician complaining about the situation thinking they are not busy doing the same and selling themselves for campaign contributions. You get the politicians you deserve and it matters not a shot what their words are. You need to look at their actions.

If you want to reform the tax code, then look at who gets what contributions from what organizations and follow the money before voting for them. Who goes to meeting with whom. Even if they keep saying what you want to hear. An honest and public spirited conservative will do you more good than a radical but disingenuous liberal.m You’d be surprised by the number of politicians making public statements about inequity who get money to ensure they don’t tip over the gravy train. Also look at any legislation that exempts themselves from the downsides of the laws they pass. Congress is really, really good at little riders that except themselves from the negative effects of rules they are happy to apply to others.

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago

Newsflash! Elon Musk’s money is not your money! Elon Musk has generated wealth and provides tens of thousands of people the ability to make a living. You do nothing but complain and provide nothing…. but division and envy. Let me guess, you’re a liberal?

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2 years ago
Reply to  rollin

fuck elon musk

Got logic ?
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2 years ago
Reply to  spamned

Seriously. That guy is out of bounds.

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
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Brilliant reply!

Country Joe
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2 years ago

Substandard care is a reality…My Eureka VA doctor wouldn’t see me due to COVID restraints and subsequently missed three cancers on my Agent Orange soaked back. I went elsewhere for proper care and the cancers were removed. We must be proactive in rural areas.

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
Reply to  Country Joe

We don’t have the leverage. And while while we live in a beautiful rural place, the things that doctors want when they think about staying here- a clean safe non drug ridden environment for their families with enough other professionals so they aren’t run into the ground- doesn’t exist. Good people frequently do not come and when they do, they don’t stay. Money didn’t fix that when pot growers were flush. They just went elsewhere for services. It’s not all about money.

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Aaaa1
2 years ago

Condolences. The people should have better healthcare available to them, at least as good as the healthcare the congressmen and congresswomen do.

Country Joe
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2 years ago
Reply to  Aaaa1

Members of Congress and their staff members are required by law to purchase their health insurance through the exchanges offered by the Affordable Care Act. However, the federal government subsidizes approximately 72 percent of the premium cost.

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
Reply to  Country Joe

And Congress has an in office medical system with a staff that most of us canlt dream of and goes to premium Walter Reed hospital when they want.

JanetSD
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JanetS
2 years ago

I’m so so sorry to read of your loss and the hopelessness in Ron’s health journey. When I had my own digestive issues, mostly caused by strong anti-biotics that were given when I had pneumonia, I went to the internet and a local naturopath instead and found so much healing hope, wonderful support, a few rabbit trails, but eventually the answers to feeling better and complete healing. As we’ve all witnessed with covid, our traditional western medical model has become too cookie-cutter and focused on prescribed medication from doctors that know nothing about nutrition and our food systems, or treating the whole person, mental health included. It is really only good for acute ER situations, and we need to be smarter about what kinds of fuel we put in our bodies if we expect them to run well. Also as a believer in the work of Jesus Christ on the cross I always have an endless hope and not a hopeless end. May you find peace and meaning as you work thru the issues of your loss and I can already tell you are doing just that.

Charles Engel
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2 years ago

How could this happen? Ron was a prime candidate for “Death With Dignity”. This was apparently an option that Ron was not offered. I had a similar experience. A dear friend passed at the beginning of last year. Information on Death With Dignity was withheld for religious reasons that we weren’t aware of. I recently learned that Adventist Health is opposed to discussing this option with clients. I inquired when volunteering at the Hospice Thrift Store. Adventist Health administers Hospice here in Fort Bragg. The manager of the store wasn’t aware of the policy when I asked. Withholding information from terminally ill patients, that are refused care, is one of the qualifying provisions of the bill.

Adventist Health is apparently in the business of withholding care and information, based on religious beliefs, in rural communities. This may be a nationwide problem. “The ambition to lead a theocracy” is a symptom of religion run amok.

“Seventh-day Adventists share many of the basic beliefs of Protestant Christianity, including acceptance of the authority of the Bible, recognition of the existence of human sin and the need for salvation, and belief in the atoning work of Christ.”

United Americans for Separation of Church and State @ https://www.au.org

California End of Life Option Act @ https://deathwithdignity.org/states/california/

Lunah
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Lunah
2 years ago

Extremely sad article. The medical system in garberville is pretty bad. Everyone I know, even the employees at the dang hospital would rather drive an hour north bleeding out than goto Garbs sad excuse for a hospital.

I actually bought my first house from the former head of the hospital, I can’t begin to tell you how filthy it was. Moldy straw insulation, a fridge that hadn’t been cleaned since the early 90’s… It literally had mold like a overcooked deep freezer.. in-between the mold was a cubby for her lunch or whatever… Omg… That wasn’t even the half of it… We were picking up syringes right up to the day we sold it.

On a side note. My parents always went to Canada for surgery.

Fbnative
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1 year ago

I was denied supplemental insurance, because of one of my medications, The only available coverage was high limit, which would pay only after my share reached 2000 dollars. No one I talked to had ever heard of this, including Doctors. I tried multiple brokers, and aarp,with no results!