SoHum Health Has Two Test Positive for COVID-19

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Information from SoHumHealth–Jerold Phelps Community Hospital:

SoHum Health had our first positive COVID-19 patients last week. Two individuals presented at our ER at Phelps Hospital on the 28th. After completing their workups, staff advised the patients to self quarantine, as their symptoms did not require hospitalization. Results of their tests were reported as positive over the weekend. The individuals are not residents of Southern Humboldt and were said to be traveling through the area.
We urge the community to continue taking precautions to protect yourself and others against this virus. COVID-19 is here, and it’s up to us to determine how far and fast it will spread. Please wear a mask, practice good hand hygeine, and continue social distancing. Stay up to date about COVID-19 in Humboldt County here – www.Humboldtgov.org
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Mike
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Mike
3 years ago

And I’m the bad guy for saying that me not wearing a mask when I’m driving won’t prevent covid from coming here.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike

“Dutch public health officials are unbending with respect to what they consider to be lack of scientific evidence on the efficacy of non-medical masks in limiting the spread of the novel coronavirus. On Wednesday, July 29th, at a press conference, officials maintained the line they’ve adopted since March: “There’s no scientific evidence for the efficacy of non-medical masks.””

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2020/08/01/dutch-officials-adamant-about-lack-of-mask-efficacy-in-preventing-coronavirus-transmission/#34643edd4412

P*** W***lies
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P*** W***lies
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Universal ignorance trumps Truth.

local skeptic thru observation
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local skeptic thru observation
3 years ago
Reply to  P*** W***lies

Trump’s Ignorance Ignores Truth.

Keep drinking the Hydroxychloroquine Kool-Aid.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago

Just how many people have you observed on hydroxychloroquine yourself? Sucking up a different flavor of Kooo-aid is not wisdom.

local skeptic thru observation
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local skeptic thru observation
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Spin, spin, spin; Turn, turn, turn.

Sit ‘n Spin, G. Your analogy is laughable, yet again.

Try harder.

P*** W***lies
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P*** W***lies
3 years ago

Bro. Was in the Solomon Islands and watched a good friends life saved with HCQ.

I’m not a trump fan, but I see how bad my democratic party has become, so I have little choice but to vote for the one who will bend me over the least.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  P*** W***lies

How did it feel to get bent over by Trump and his Republicans with their tax breaks for the rich? Feel good?
Quit pushing Trumps bogus medicine quick fix.

onlooker
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onlooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Sounds like you should move there, or wear a mask here.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
3 years ago
Reply to  onlooker

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”

― C.S. Lewis

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

CS Lewis, lol.

He knows Jack Shit about Covid, that’s for sure.

And someone’s quote is by no means a universal truth.

If so, you’re a gay white devil, because Farrakhan said so.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

That may be the single most useless analogy made. Not everyone who says something is sane. But hopefully there’s at least some standard to judge whether a statement is useful or not. My favorite one is “There’s one born every minute.”

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

But hopefully there’s at least some standard to judge whether a statement is useful or not. 

I agree.

Obviously I thought the CS quote was not useful (in this context), and I pointed that out with what I thought was equally useless;

Farrakhan.

(And unfortunately, I would say more in the world today know and follow Farrakhan than CS Lewis.)

DELLIB
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DELLIB
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Last I checked, I self tested positive for being alive. The CV test seems like a Big Gov scare tactic designing for fear and capitulation. Seems like they are running more tests lately… I may be more likely to die in a car accident, according to this site’s own current posts….

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

That’s funny.

Good one.

e.eeeeeeeeeeee. c
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e.eeeeeeeeeeee. c
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

as freedom is a breakfastfood
or truth can live with right and wrong
or molehills are from mountains made
—long enough and just so long

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

CS Lewis was a religious nut.
Yeah, I guess he wrote some good books but I don’t get that a quote from him about tyranny proves anything.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

New Daily Coronavirus cases:
Spain 0
France 0
Canada 285
US. 48,849

Instead of worrying about “tyranny ” why don’t we focus on WHY THE HELL THE UNITED STATES IS OUT OF CONTROL. Maybe do some research on why that is instead of flogging the mask debate to death. Jesus Christ, look at those numbers. Just what is driving those numbers of cases, especially in states and places that aren’t social distancing or wearing masks!! I don’t give a flying fuck about Dutch statistics right now, LOOK AT US !!! A Fucking disaster. Why? Take a wild fucking guess !!
Tyranny. Ugh.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
3 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Have you heard of federalism? Thankfully we live in a country where individual states have the authority to decide on the best policy forward in situations like this one. Look at the individual states and figure out who to laud or chastise.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Looks to me like the states that avoided shutting down and had no mask policy or distancing or states that opened up too soon, not wearing masks is resulting in the spread. No mystery there .
You look at a failure for states, the United States to adhere to set policies for everyone in every state to follow as a good thing, I don’t. It’s the reason the United States is surging. The rugged ammosexual individualism bullshit isn’t cutting it for America right now.
Can’t even get everyone on board to quash Covid, gotta fight tooth and nail over mask wearing and distancing, muh Freedoms and all that bullshit.
Freedom to fuck this up and boy , we sure are.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
3 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Why would the policies of New York make sense for Vermont or Hawaii or Humboldt County?

Feel free to petition for a Constitutional Convention to amend that archaic piece of paper.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

And you prove my point…

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Because viruses dont give a fuck about State lines, Constitutions, or CS the fuck Lewis.

Do NY and Hawaii have airports?

Hmmmm.

Maybe other states do too!

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?
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

You mean like Oregon’s state rights ring abided in Portland?

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
3 years ago
Reply to  ?

Was that a coherent thought? It did not translate into a coherent sentence.

“You mean like Oregon’s state rights ring abided in Portland?”??

Nick
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Nick
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Despite the so-called “evidence,” even if there is the possibility of helping a fellow American citizen (child, a person with cancer on chemotherapy or an autoimmune disorder, etc.), why wouldn’t you do it. It is a piece of cloth! It isn’t a sign of the beast. If people are not willing, we don’t deserve the everyday conveniences brought about by the sacrifices of our forebears. Entitlement takes many forms, no matter your political affiliation. I would wear one for your family, why wouldn’t you do it for mine?

Steve
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Steve
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

The Netherlands has 440 positive corona virus cases per million people compared to 210 for the US. So there’s that.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
3 years ago
Reply to  Steve

I’m not sure where you’re pulling number from, but the ones I have the USA is 481 deaths per 1 million (14,714 cases per 1M) people and the Netherlands is 359(3,265 cases per 1M). Although I don’t think comparisons between those 2 countries paint much of a clear picture.

Spew hole
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3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Any covering helps with all the spit drops that fly all over when you talk. Check to see if they mean non medical masks helping the WEARER of the mask.

RC
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RC
3 years ago

Please read the above article regarding the Dutch officials’ statement and the commentary that goes with it. Here is more of the article:

“To be sure the evolution of coronavirus mask rules has been complex and even confusing at times. Nevertheless, the seemingly denialist position taken by the Dutch authorities invites the question, how did a nation like Japan, that never imposed a lockdown, contain the coronavirus and at the same time achieve the lowest influenza rate in more than a decade? It would appear that universal mask use, among other measures, had something to do with it.

Closer to the Netherlands, in the Czech Republic, masks were an integral part of a very effective government campaign that began at the outset of the epidemic in March, long before other nations adopted mask policies. The slogan “my mask protects you, your mask protects me” appears to have been a contributing factor in the Czech Republic’s ability to contain the virus containment achieve relatively low death rate.

While the experiences of countries with early mask requirements, such as Taiwan, Vietnam, Japan, and the Czech Republic , are not scientific evidence per se, they do serve as observational study experiments, if you will, supportive of mask wearing.

The Netherlands hasn’t exactly distinguished itself as a leading exemplar of best practices in the fight against coronavirus. Not only has it been a laggard on mask policies, to this day the RIVM doesn’t include thousands of nursing home and at home deaths that were very likely the result of Covid-19, though not confirmed with a PCR test. Only a handful of countries continue to apply such narrow criteria for identifying Covid-19 deaths. Had the Netherlands done what its neighbor Belgium did, namely, include probable Covid-19 deaths, it would sit near the top of the deaths per million leader board.

And so it is somewhat incomprehensible that the Netherlands dithers, perhaps stubbornly, on its mask policy. The Dutch people, on the other hand, aren’t as sanguine about the situation. More than 50% think face masks should be made compulsory in all indoor public spaces to help curb a second wave of the coronavirus.”

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  RC

Thank you.

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  RC

Belgium did not just include probably cases- “They include not only deaths that are confirmed to be virus-related, but even those suspected of being linked, whether the victim was tested or not.” “Even Prime Minister Sophie Wilmès has suggested the count has been exaggerated. ” Of course the spokesman for the Belgium covid taskforce is unapologetic. “He insists other governments have been undercounting fatalities attributable to the virus, and in fact, he said in a news conference Monday, “more and more countries are starting to copy the Belgian surveillance model … which allows us to measure the severity of the situation… Experts at Wednesday’s briefing said the country likely hit the coronavirus’ peak on April 12.” A little optimistic as their cases are still rising, and now “Speaking after an urgent meeting of the national security council, Prime Minister Sophie Wilmes said that from next Wednesday contacts outside every household will be limited to the same five people over the next four weeks, as the so-called “social bubble” now applies to a house and its occupants and not to individuals. Belgian residents are currently allowed to meet with 15 different people per week.” In order not to implement another lockdown. So much for “knowing” in order to actually do something.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/22/841005901/why-belgiums-death-rate-is-so-high-it-counts-lots-of-suspected-covid-19-cases
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/belgium-implements-drastic-plan-avoid-lockdown-72010953

Whereas poor deficient Sweden has been on a slowing curve without a lockdown or facemask mandate. But then the “facemask wearing Dutch” as pictured below in a March attempt to buy pot before the country shut these pot shops down.

Hesitating to start another conspiracy fueled idea but China has seen a massive boom in face mask production and also has published lots of international news articles on how they got control over the virus by using them. Not that China’s statements are ever reliable. And not that they have avoided their usual fly by night production honesty problems. The truth is that there are countries that have managed a measure of control without face masks, such as New Zealand and Iceland. What they had was border control- being surrounded by water with no open borders helped a lot- and serious tracking with enforced isolation.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

The truth is that there are countries that have managed a measure of control without face masks, such as New Zealand and Iceland. What they had was border control- being surrounded by water with no open borders helped a lot- and serious tracking with enforced isolation.

This is true, like Thailand also.

However, since USA is not doing one of these efforts seriously, you might start to see the issue, and resounding redundancy in comparing ourselves to anything other than Brazil.

Guest
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3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

“Tourism ground to a halt in April, when Thailand imposed a ban on all incoming passenger flights. The country – which has so far managed to contain Covid-19, recording 3,255 cases and 58 deaths – is discussing travel bubbles with low-risk neighbouring countries, but no one knows when these might be established. Borders remain shut to almost all foreign tourists.” https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/23/deserted-beaches-empty-bars-covid-19-devastates-thailands-tourist-islands

Not that Thailand is a paragon of disclosure anyway. But for a good one -“But curiously, nearby Thailand has enjoyed an incredibly low number of cases, which has led Dr. Amy Baxter to believe that this one personal hygiene habit is the reason: nasal irrigation.” So now we’re going to have mandated neti pots? Anyway Thailand has an authoritarian military military government. https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/10/24/thailand-peaceful-critics-prosecuted

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Likely snot going to happen.

So, what is America going to do?

Wait for a Supreme Court ruling?

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Finally face up to a dose of reality from at least in one article- https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/04/fighting-ghost-coronavirus-victories-fragile

“Short of complete suppression and locking your borders, you’re always going to get an increase in cases as you ease up,” he says. “The question becomes: can you live with it or not?”

“That means striking bargains with the virus: shutting risky industries such as nightclubs, mandating masks and testing widely, but accepting that limited spread will not be stopped – and that it would be too costly to other public health priorities to do so.” Not to mention the reality that “The blow has been cushioned somewhat in countries such as France, the UK and Australia, which learned from the 2008 crash that it was cheaper in the long run to pay for businesses to furlough workers in order to speed up recovery when the crisis ebbs. The US is among those that instead paid individuals directly, with about 30 million people – one in five of the workforce – now on the dole.”

For too long the constant carpers and complainers have engaged unrealistic rhetoric about blame when from the start, if they had had an education in actual history rather than revisionist history, they could have realized they are not in control of much besides themselves. Pandemics are to be feared because they are largely uncontrollable without the controls becoming worse than the disease. Which leads to the next dose of reality so succinctly put by the phrase “You can’t have your cake and eat it too.” You can’t have open borders without both good and bad coming through them; you can’t have money for social spending without some people going out to earn it and, to have people willing to do it, as it’s harder than not working, they must be valued more than those who don’t; you can’t cultivate disregard for the law and then expect that laws will be useful when you want it; you can’t be uncivil and expect others to be civil in return; you can’t refuse to hear what you don’t like and expect to know what’s real because much of what’s real is not agreeable. Most of all, you can’t demand the only good ends – that’s fantasy- the bad corollaries of what’s demanded are rarely as much unexpected as ignored.

Just Watchin'
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Just Watchin'
3 years ago
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“As noted by Baxter, researchers have found that the viral load of SARS-CoV-2 tends to be heaviest in the sinuses and nasal cavity. Regularly rinsing your sinuses therefore makes sense since it would help clear out the pathogen and prevent it from gaining a strong foothold and migrating into your lungs.

The age and gender discrepancies observed in COVID-19 also supports nasal irrigation. Children are at virtually no risk from COVID-19, while death rates among the elderly are at their highest. More men than women also die from the infection.

“Children don’t develop full sinuses until teens; males have larger cavities than women, and the cavities are largest [in those] over 70 years,” Baxter notes.

Research has previously demonstrated that nasal irrigation reduces the symptoms and duration of other viral illnesses such as the seasonal flu and common cold.

In one randomized controlled trial,4 nasal irrigation and gargling with hypertonic saline were found to reduce the duration of the common cold by 1.9 days and reduce transmission within the household by 35% by reducing viral shedding when done within 48 hours of symptom onset.

While it has not yet been studied as a preventive method for COVID-19 specifically, there’s reason to suspect nasal irrigation might be helpful.

Baxter points out that COVID-19 death rates in Southeast Asian countries such as Thailand, Vietnam and Laos have been surprisingly low, and nasal irrigation is common practice in those areas. According to Baxter, some 80% of the Southeast Asian population do it.” In an April 20, 2020, article,1 MSN’s Best Life features the recommendations of Dr. Amy Baxter, a pediatric emergency medicine physician in Atlanta, Georgia.

Dave Kirby
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Dave Kirby
3 years ago

One can find many reputable reports that masks do make a difference. There is a lot of inductive as opposed to deductive reasoning around Covid 19. Deductive folks try to gather as much information, from many sources, as they can on a subject and then formulate a position. Inductive types, of which there are many here, jump to a conclusion and then search for sources that support their presumptions. As this whole argument is largely based on political considerations thanks to our know nothing president real facts are hard to come by and this pandemic has become just another force for the polarization of the country.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Kirby

… and that’s why the Dutch do not mandate masks… because they love Trump. That’s some great deductive reasoning there.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Face masks may help some. It is something I do. But it not the savior on the shining hill that some people make it out to be. The cultures that historically use face masks also culturally avoid touching, have household registers so they know where people live to track them, are culturally monoethnic and cohesive and are not much worried about the rights of outsiders. Which accounts for their ability to control infections. Not face masks. Those who do not have that esthetic have a much, much harder time.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Wearing a face mask indoors in respect to communal teamwork is far from thinking masks are saving every hospitalization.

But we are talking to denialists that think masking up during a pandemic is, ahem, tyrannical.

And then theres the Bill Gates conspiracy [self edit], who bring reason to a whole new low.

Thanks for your effort in the teamwork, Guest. Really.

Mike
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Mike
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

I was The dump and I watched a lady dump her garbage, out on her face mask to pull up the the office, so as to be safe, then they passed some paperwork back and forth, then she took her face mask off to lick a envelope to pass back to the lady working there. That’s sums up what is happening.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Ok.

So are you frustrated at being asked to try to do good, or are you frustrated that perfection isn’t as important (or enforced) as effort in trying to do good?

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

The frustation comes from the imposition of ideas that damage more than they help. And with the unending outrage of those people making the demands to acknowledge any damage at all.

Third Word County
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Third Word County
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Talk about dumps. I sure am glad San Francisco passed a law requiring people to wear clothes. People were getting tired of naked people sitting on park benches and bus stop benches leaving personal little treasures for other people to pick up. As far as masks go you know the old saying say it don’t spray it. Well I tend to spray it and say it at the same time so if you are in projectile range watch out for your eyes and mouth. The moral of the story is that you are better off putting some cloth on it to keep your nasty juices contained!

read past the headline
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read past the headline
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

how embarrassing for you. 🙂

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

ULLR you have been one one side of the debate since it started. You made up your mind like many right wingers and don’t entertain any evidence to the contrary if your belief. You fall directly into Dave Kirbys explanation of inductive reasoning. You and many others. Thanks Dave for an insightful comment. Keep an open mind and get real news.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
3 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

So, again, how are the Dutch health officials “right wingers”? Obviously they are basing their policy on what they believe is sound science and not partisanship.

In fact most of the northern European and Nordic countries have very little public mask wearing and have faired pretty well, by the numbers.

https://www.euronews.com/2020/07/14/coronavirus-how-the-wearing-of-face-masks-has-exposed-a-divided-europe

P*** W***lies
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P*** W***lies
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Ignorance Trumps the Facts in so many people’s minds.

What is the ENDGAME..?

just because we are not being told directly ,

the plan for the billionaire boys club is to send the USA into a 2nd/3rd world economy, lower the standard of living, lower the life expectancy, and Lower the IQ.

Operation Baby Boomer Out, is in full swing, and a rose by any other name, …is probably a synthetic substitute for the real thing.

Keep up the good work, Ullr.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

WC didn’t say Dutch officials were anything.

Read the comment again.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

I posted a quote from Forbes about a Dutch health policy. Others assumed political leanings with comments like, “…like many right wingers and don’t entertain any evidence to the contrary…” so, how is that applicable to anything else? Again, certainly Dutch health authorities aren’t basing their policies on right/left politics why would you and WC assume that I am?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Its obvious.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

No It is not obvious to the people saying such stuff who use that type of remarks to dismiss people rather than ideas. It is the weapon of frustrated illogic to say “you people are all the same.”

The Brian
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The Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Yes, Ullrs position has been obvious regarding this virus.

And it is true that ideology trends with affiliations.

Ullr has continuously downplayed the severity of this virus, (like Trump) even suggesting that masks in a pandemic are tyranny.

If that doesn’t paint a picture for you, I don’t know what would.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
3 years ago
Reply to  The Brian

“Ullr…even suggesting that masks in a pandemic are tyranny.”

Feel free to quote me.

Swine
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Swine
3 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Why is everything left and right wing with some of you. I feel sorry for your myopic views

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  Swine

Because Trump turned the virus into a political battle from the get-go.
Does ” Coronavirus is a Democrat hoax ” sound familiar?

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Nonsense. “Corona virus is a hoax” is what a victim of TDS hears when Trump says that the Democrats are using the corona virus to hoax the public. Like losing the ability to taste or smell is a symptom of the virus, the inability to hear what is really being said is a symptom of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Trump defense system, more like it.

Yeah, Trump has been real smart and serious during this whole event.

Bwaaahaaaaahaaa.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Actually he has, although he is certainly not without defects in both presentation and self control. He’s a piss poor politician and that is certainly a defect in a president. But yes, defensive and oblivious to other people as he is, he is smart and a realist. And he has been more right about what can be done in the US than his critics. For some reason, you look at a press article about the superiority of, say New Zealand or South Korea, and have the idea that the same could have be done here. All the while while doing your best to see it is not an option . The countries that achieved isolation from the virus and universally, not like the US, just labelled racist, but really are racist. Also authoritarian border control and monoethnic. And then that idea doesn’t take into account that this is not over yet- isolation from the virus will have to last as long as it is circulating in the world, with opportunity to fail each day it goes on. It is not Temp who set the conditions in the US that allow so erratic control of the pandemic. It’s the unreal Brians of the country.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

How can I take you seriously when you are trying to say Trump has taken this seriously?

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

You lost me on ” Trump is a realist”.
The fantasy that Trump has perpetuated about himself and people actually believing it is the true meaning of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

TRB- what you mean is that he hasn’t done what you wanted, which actually was not possible. That is not the same as taking it seriously. As Obama once famously said “”Part of this job is also the theater of it,” Obama said, adding that “it’s not something that always comes naturally to me. But it matters.” Trump has the opposite problem. He never stops with the theater when he should.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Did Trump become a realist before or after telling Americans his lawyers had proof that Obama was a Kenyan?

Swine
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Swine
3 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

No its people like you that did it..

Willow Creeker
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Willow Creeker
3 years ago
Reply to  Swine

‘Swine’, I have kept an open mind about the situation from day one. I was very concerned at the beginning and my family went into lockdown mode. Now with a little more information I have considered the idea of herd immunity and the balance of keeping our country working vs keeping more old people alive longer. I just like it when other people keep an open mind. We are all learning as we go with this thing. It’s very true that the right wing nuts are getting all their info from unreliable sources, that much I will say is true. Fox News, Facebook etc. I have plenty of friends and family on this end of the political spectrum and they all say the same things. Honestly many of my friends are that tilt left are being a bit too cautious in my opinion. I can clearly see the damage that is happening to our towns, and it’s really shitty. Eureka is terrible. I prefer to listen to honest, trusted sources, and make my own decisions. I don’t mind making generalizations if they are mostly true.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

If you had kept an open mind, you would have never said “You made up your mind like many right wingers and don’t entertain any evidence to the contrary ” while you were doing the same thing. Truth- as close to it as is likely among humans- is that not even people who have doctorates in epidemiology are as sure of facts as those who repeat what the press says without much questioning. And saying so is not some “right wing agenda.”

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I see the pretzel twisting contest is in full swing here today. I love when people decipher actual words out of Trumps mouth to make him sound better. Even better is when his press secretary puts lipstick on a pig for him and hours later he says no, I meant what I said. Doctoring his words and actions is hilarious, some sort of 8 dimensional reverse psychology mind bending reaching going on to defend him. Everyone that isn’t under his spell sees that the Emperor isn’t wearing any clothes. Enjoy.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
3 years ago
Reply to  Willow Creeker

“It’s very true that the right wing nuts are getting all their info from unreliable sources, that much I will say is true. Fox News, Facebook etc.” …like the Dutch and Sweish governments? Forbes? I don’t do effbook and rarely bother with Fox. The fact is that the major news reources have saturated the information streams with a single narrative that when any information that is presented outside of that narrow storyline the reaction is apoplectic.

At the very least there are many more unknowns with this event than knowns and when authorities tell you one thing the first thing to do is lay bare the reasoning… so far, as often as not, the reasoning is baseless.

Willie Bray
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3 years ago

🕯🌳Damn a month ago two of you were saying no to masks, now its common sense. I can pull up the comments but out of respect I won’t. 👨‍🚒🚑

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3 years ago
Reply to  Willie Bray

Willie- always in a world of your own.

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3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

He’s in this one, too. I can tell, because I can hear him just fine.

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3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

That should not comfort you.

Swine
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Swine
3 years ago

So contact tracers.. Where else did these people go while they were herr?? Oh yea you wont tell us cuz this is all a fuckin joke

Juanita
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Juanita
3 years ago

It would be so honorable for these people to identify themselves so unsuspecting contacts could get tested. I do not think there would be a witch hunt.

Sonnyb
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Sonnyb
3 years ago
Reply to  Juanita

Maybe we can get them to wear a giant yellow star of David so we can easily identify them. Yeah, that has never been done before.

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3 years ago
Reply to  Juanita

Do you not read the comments here? There is a chance that they would get shot!

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
3 years ago

I wonder if GOD let Herman Cain through the pearly gates without a mask.

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3 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

So whether a person who dies in a pandemic is to be derided based on political affiliation? The ultimate failure of empathy as a criterion for any judgement.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

If radical political loyalism* leads to his demise, it might be noteworthy to point out.

* Radical political loyalist does not mean favoring one party over another, such as Republican or Democrat, but rather it means in this statement:

Loyslism to Trump particularly, who is not one of any party for a greater America.

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3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Good point.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Thank you.

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3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Except you have zero knowledge of where or how he became infected. For the idea that that belittling him after his death has merit because his “Trump loyalism” caused his death, you simply assume it based on no evidence because it fits your agenda. It is the worst kind of circular reasoning that permeates the anti Trumpers brains. Most people, even if they think it, would recognize the limits of their knowing and not attack a dead man who can’t defend himself.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

And you go to great lengths to rail against the left so stop pretending you are a neutral intellectual of sorts talking down to us all the time. Just stop, the hypocrisy is glaring.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Herman Cain was a vocal opponent to mask-wearing and other ways to lessen the spread of Covid.

He politicized Covid. That he wound up dying from the illness he said was a hoax is…ironic isn’t the correct word, but something like that.

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P*** W***lies
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P*** W***lies
3 years ago

Dying with , instead of.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  P*** W***lies

Quit making shit up.

That is not what his circle is saying, Sid .

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  P*** W***lies

Conservative Media Is Really Struggling With the Possibility That Trump Killed Herman Cain

https://newrepublic.com/article/158728/conservative-media-really-struggling-possibility-trump-killed-herman-cain

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Poor Herman Cain, he’s not alive to defend himself. God, the shit people write here boggles the mind. A person who can look the other way as Trump calls everyone names, craps on the constitution, grifting and golfing his way thru his ” presidency” takes exception to talking about a man who died because he “can’t defend himself”. You just can’t make this shit up.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Not a joke and not hyperbole – I’m hearing from people close to the situation that Biden’s cognitive decline is rapidly worsening and is becoming increasingly difficult to mask. The Democrats are going to have to make a decision soon.

Somebody tell Dr. Jill Biden this is elder abuse! Oh wait, shouldn’t she already know that?

The degree of Doctor of Humane Letters (Latin: Litterarum humanarum doctor; D.H.L.; or L.H.D.) is almost always conferred as an honorary degree,

never mind…………..

Say what you about Trump, at least he knows where he is and that’s more than you can say about Biden.

Hiding out didn’t work for Clinton ( she hid out for 100 days or so ) and it won’t work for Biden.

Mean while we still wait for Hillary to accept the results of the 2016 election…lol

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

No, struggling with what ever happened to black lives matter?
Unless they are republican??

whizzluzit
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whizzluzit
3 years ago

So at there pearly gates Peter says where’s your mask?? Jesus says, I don”t need one I am pure. Peter says “Hey God” should I let Jesus in??? God says, make him wash his hands first.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago

A certain amount of people are not going to wear masks…..

Many trimmers
Heroin and other hard drug pushers
Prisoners released
Homeless
alcoholics

How do you know?
Because they don’t follow laws, Don’t care about fines or fees, and if put in jail they will be released

So guess who wears the masks.
The people who are self disciplined.

Garcia
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Garcia
3 years ago

I reside in Hoopa. Our medical center notified the community of 1 positive new case her yesterday. Then this evening the newspaper and medical center put out a emergency press release that we have another 5 positive cases. 6 positive cases in a population of 2,500 not good…

Yogini
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Yogini
3 years ago

CDC Photo says it all…so many FEAR based people for a man=made virus.

Karl Verick
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Karl Verick
3 years ago

Greatest respect to the front line healthcare workers at Jerold Phelps Community Hospital. They are a shield protecting the community. Please keep them in your thoughts.

Billy Casomorphin
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Billy Casomorphin
3 years ago
Reply to  Karl Verick

District Hospitals across Northern CA struggle to operate at this difficult time. Help healthcare workers by respecting your own health and safety, following the directives of public health authorities, and being responsible for your own safety.

Local hospitals are a safety net, but they have limited abilities. Consume healthcare responsibly, take care of yourself, be safe and be well.

Always say thanks to that person wearing scrubs, it’s a difficult time for everyone.

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3 years ago
Reply to  Karl Verick

I agree. The risk is real and the courage in meeting is to be respected.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 years ago

So two trimmers?

Scooter
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Scooter
3 years ago

Last week in Shop Smart there was a dirty young guy with no mask chomping on a piece of chicken in the checkout line. Like the old song “Greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes” he was touching everything. No enforcement. I went to a different line. I may never go back. It’s here and some folks don’t give a flying @#$%^!

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3 years ago
Reply to  Scooter

But what do you expect the store clerks to do? They would rather be not be there too. Call the police on one person when they are actually releasing infected prisoners already convicted? Assign military personnel to each storefront to repel the maskless? Arrest him for eating without a mask on? The reality is that there will be such people, always have been, and going out to shop should be self restricted as much as possible to avoid them. Going to another line was the best you could do.

tm
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tm
3 years ago

The real question is why does it take laws and regulations to do the right thing, for yourself and others?

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3 years ago
Reply to  tm

Laws and regulations, when injudiciously created especially, are not good at making people do the right thing. “Right things” are not simple to identify, being mostly opinion.

Guest
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3 years ago

This-

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago

Unequal enforcement of the laws do not help convince people.

When you allow protestors to roam the streets in groups, have stabbing & shootings, but won’t let people go to church you defeat the integrity of the message.

Oh wait, you can go to a funeral for John Lewis but not for a ordinary person,
is that equality?

Those with TDS will blame Trump, but will ignore Nancy Pelosi inviting or actually encouraging people to come to China Town and have dinner and ride the cable cars.

No mention of Cuomo’s NY where there were the most cases by far due to placing the infected in convalescent homes leading to 1/4 of the cases in the US.

Point being there is plenty of blame to go around.

Even so, I still wear the mask and practice good hygiene whether it helps or not.

I also request fair and equal testing of Hydroxy.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

The possible treatment, shunned by the mainstream media and Big Tech, has far-ranging champions from Yale epidemiologists to frontline doctors to President Trump. Despite this support, corroborated by scientific studies, the medical establishment under the auspices of Dr. Anthony Fauci have refused to grant hydroxychloroquine “Emergency Use Authorization” (EUA).

July 29th documents from a Food and Drug Administration (FDA) presentation reveal, however, that the “qualifying criteria” for extending EUA to the drug appear to have been met: it “may be effective” and that “no adequate, approved, and available alternative” exists.

The document makes clear that Emergency Use Authorization cannot be used for more than one drug or therapeutic, and the establishment is potentially therefore saving the EUA pre-emptively for vaccines and remdesivir – patently high-value Big Pharma drugs – instead of hydroxychloroquine.

https://thenationalpulse.com/news/leaked-hydroxychloroquine-memo/

P*** W***lies
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P*** W***lies
3 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

You can’t fixed ignorance with reason.

Best thing is for most is to just let those who have compromised immune systems, the ones who were subjected to the new vaccine schedule’s of the late 80s , 90s, 00s, etc to listen to the establishment media and WHO.

Just make sure your kids don’t reproduce with their kids.

There is no way to convince the rest. The conspiracy minded people will be subjected to the same humiliation that women and minorities have suffered under the ignorant and apathetic societies of the not too distant future.

There is one race, the human race, and they will use every trick in the book to play subsets off one an other while the billionaire boys club makes bets and wagers…

Sick, control freaks, satanic worshipping people who have every tool to carry out this psychological operation on a global scale.

Or we can keep our heads in the sand, leaving our behinds ripe for the beating they are destined to take.

Censorship 2020.

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3 years ago

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