Controversial Tree Removal Permit Denied Due to Lack of Hazard Evidence

Attorney Tonya Farmer and permit applicant Robert Scarlett
Following the controversial removal of four old growth redwood trees from a lower Redway residential property, a fifth tree has been saved by the Humboldt County Planning Commission – for now.
A June 18 commission hearing ended with the commission unanimously voting to deny a tree removal permit to the property owner and permit applicant, Robert Scarlett.
Citing a lack of evidence that the tree is an “imminent hazard” to the house on the property, utility lines and a road right-of-way, commissioners voted to deny the permit but said an application can be re-submitted with better proof of the hazard claim.
Otherwise, they sided with scores of public speakers who traveled to Eureka from Southern Humboldt to urge the commission to spare the tree.
Scarlett became an enemy of the community when he cut down four old growth redwoods on his Oakridge Drive property early this year.
He should have sought a permit from the county to do it but instead got the go-ahead from Cal Fire, as he was directed to do by the county’s Planning Department.
It was a flub, as an initial determination that Cal Fire’s authority superseded the county’s was deemed wrong after controversy erupted.
That set the stage for the hearing that would decide the fate of the fifth tree.
The agendized staff recommendation was to approve the permit, as a Cal Fire forester and two others – one contracted by Scarlett and another certified by the International Society of Arborists (ISA) — flagged several dangers.
Senior Planner Cliff Johnson highlighted a report from the contracted forester, Hohman and Associates Forestry Consulting, which says the 252-foot-tall tree has “a significant cavity with rot present” about 200 feet up.
“The poor health of the root system” and what Johnson described as “the scar at the base of the tree” – caused by the previous tree cut – compound the tree’s definition as an “immediate hazard,” he said.
But Johnson noted that three other reports – from a registered professional forester and two ISA-certified arborists – contest the hazard claims.
Johnson said “it does not appear that these experts have been on the property to conduct the close-up examinations that the others have done that supported this application” but added, “That does not mean that their testimony is irrelevant.”
He also said the California Department of Fish and Wildlife says the tree has “ecological value” and has expressed concern about loss of marbled murrelet habitat.
To mitigate those impacts, Johnson recommended adding a condition that the trunk of the tree be donated to California State Parks to somehow be used for “beneficial cultural and habitat uses.”
The commission’s skepticism about the hazard claims was evident early on.
Commission Chair Sarah West noted a lack of photographic evidence to support them and asked, “Is it typical that photographic evidence to support the findings that are made is not submitted with the report?”
“I don’t really know,” Johnson replied. “There’s nothing really typical about this project at all.”

Q Zone map
The Scarlett property is within a county-designated Qualifying Zone, known as a Q Zone, which sets area-specific standards and regulations.
In this case the cutting of old growth trees is prohibited unless they pose imminent danger. And Tonya Farmer, Scarlett’s attorney, cited the Cal Fire and arborist reports as proof of the imminent danger.
“Mr. Scarlett faces potential civil liability if he fails to take reasonable steps to address the hazard condition on his property and if damages result,” she said. “The question before the commission is not whether anyone values old growth redwoods, it is whether the property owner, faced with professional opinion identifying a hazardous tree, is acting reasonably in seeking permission to remove it.”
But a mass of public comment followed, assertively challenging that.
David Walsh, one of Scalett’s neighbors, noted a circumstance that has sparked a lot of suspicion – that Scarlett is a Cal Fire employee.
“The legality of the Cal Fire employee writing an exemption for another Cal Fire employee in a clearly protected area has not been resolved,” he said. “The applicant knew without a doubt that these trees were protected. The fact that the Planning Department suffered from institutional amnesia does not avoid the (Q Zone) ordinance.”
Several registered professional foresters criticized the reports supporting the hazard claims, including Patrick Mulligan.
“In my estimation, Mr. Scarlett went expert shopping to find someone who would give him his desired outcome, and they did a poor job at that,” he said. “These reports should not be trusted.”
Profit motive would be oft-claimed by the public speakers and Mulligan alleged the Cal Fire forester is “a biased co-worker of Scarlett who was involved with Scarlett before the purchase” and who “schemed” with him to “profit from harvesting the old growth.”

Amy Gustin
“The tree and the trees that were cut were priceless and are priceless but dead trees are worth a lot of money and I’d like to just remind everybody that people can be swayed by money,” said Ettersburg resident Amy Gustin.
“If you have to buy a house and the value of those trees is something that you can easily capitalize on, then the prices of those houses are going to go up,” said Redway resident Michael McKaskle. “Because there are going to be speculators who are going to be buying those with the intent of essentially abusing this process and taking those trees.”
Another speaker said Scarlett reaped $1 million from the previous tree cuts – a claim that would be successfully disputed.
But what’s not disputed, including by the county, is that the Q Zone requirements should have been followed and were not.
“We have to strengthen the Q Zone,’ said Michael Evenson. “And the way to strengthen it from what I’m seeing and what I’m hearing is to take all monetary gain out of taking down a tree that could possibly be threatening a house or some activity.”
Ettersburg resident John Hardin said the process “has been cynically opportunistic from the beginning” and the county “has acted in complete contempt for the Southern Humboldt community.”
He added, “Those trees are so much more valuable than the house beneath them.”
Other speakers described the tree cutting as an “illegal and unethical situation,” questioned the lack of photos, and implored the commission to “look into your hearts and be on the right side of history.”
Tom Hiller, who owns a home in the Q Zone, compared the tree takings to robbery.

Tom Hiller
“In the dead of winter, the applicant snuck into the bank when the guards at the bank were asleep,” he said. “He grabbed four big bags of cash and walked out of the bank because nobody was there to stop it. Now, in the light of springtime, the guards are awake. They know what they’re supposed to be doing and yet the applicant is asking that he be allowed to go back in the bank and grab that one last bag of cash.”
The only speaker to come anywhere close to supporting permit approval was Southern Humboldt resident Thomas Mulder, who is a former planning commissioner.
“If you do choose to deny this permit, I would double-check with county counsel that each one of you commissioners can be held liable if that tree comes down and kills someone, maims someone or maims property,” he said, advising commissioners to be “very cautious.”
Returning to the podium, this time with Scarlett, Farmer disputed the accusations and said he’s acted responsibly.
Scarlett “followed the law to the T” and “did everything that he was told to by the government officials,” she continued.
Farmer also said Scarlett “did not reap substantial monetary windfall” and “the total amount of money that he received for all the trees – not a million dollars — $70,000.”
The amount was said to be “closer to $80,000” during the commission’s discussion but Farmer noted “he had to pay for the services to fell the trees – so this lie must stop today.”
Scarlett explained why he bought the property.
“I acquired this property for my mother, I acquired this property because she is aging and I live currently across the street,” he said. “I bought it for her so she could live there.”
He added that falling limbs have “crushed vehicles” in the past and caused roof damage.
But Commissioner Noah Levy said “at most what would have been justified is to strategically remove certain limbs that could put your house at risk” and the evidence of threat is “very thin.”
The rotted cavity mentioned in one of the reports was observed by a drone and Scarlett said there’s video of it.
Asked about it, Planning Director John Ford said, “I had discussed with Mr. Scarlett some things that he could do to make those reports stronger, including the video, but none of that was done.”

Scarlett sought to remove the tree on the right with the gash at its base
Commissioner Jerome Qiriazi said Scarlett is not “necessarily at fault, per se” but Qiriazi doesn’t think there’s “sufficient evidence to justify that there’s an imminent threat.”
Commissioner Lorna McFarlane agreed and made a motion to deny the permit “based on lack of ability to find the tree passes the test of imminent hazard.”
There was some talk of allowing limbing, but Ford said limbing isn’t prohibited by the Q Zone.
Saying “this situation is a mess,” Commissioner Iver Skavdal said he’s concerned about liability and noted that the foresters contesting the hazard claims “aren’t under contract and they’re not liable for their statements that they’re making here, so now that risk is going to shift us, to the county.”
He said he couldn’t support the permit denial but after discussion on the possibility of Scarlett re-applying with more thorough evidence, he changed his mind.
Commissioner Peggy O’Neill summed up the stakes involved in considering the removal of a 350-year-old-plus redwood.
“We’re not talking about an apple tree, we’re talking about an old-growth redwood tree,” she said. “And I think the burden of proof that it’s a danger needs to be pretty high before we agree to take it down because it’s something that’s been here long before all of us and will be here probably longer than all of us.”
The commission’s vote to deny the permit was unanimous.
Scarlett has another county process option to pursue the tree removal, as he can appeal the denial to the Board of Supervisors.
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Hmm…wonder what the Supes will do w his appeal? Let me guess- Bohn and Bushnell approve. Arroyo and Madrone deny. Wilson left as tie vote?! He’s a city guy so he’ll deny. Bushnell will see this loss coming so she will deny in time for vote to be recorded so she can continue to play both sides….4-1 Denial. Perhaps the landowner sees this and will instead focus on reapplying with better photos of that tree cavity and more documentation. In any case I don’t think this is over….
My advice to the land owner would be to prune the tree instead. You can see an example of this on the avenue of the giants in front of the old Phillipsville store. It’s perfectly legal to prune the tree to 20 feet tall. Problem solved, the tree lives on and the hazard is abated without breaking any laws. Rarely is there a solution where both sides win but this is one of them 🤗
Just promise the arborist and the guy with the saw a cut of the lumber sales.
What they call crown reduction,like 30 feet up .low enough where ever few years he can clean up the suckers.
Like it.Theres more than one way to get around stupid.
The county is on the financial hook if someone gets injured or killed. You can’t roll the dice on safety. I lived in an area with a tree basically the same size next to the house. In a bad windstorm two huge branches broke off. One thru the roof clear thru the second story loft. The other thru the bedroom. How my spouse and I survived was a miracle. This should be appealed. Safety first. Period.
Glad you made it through that! But if what you say is true then we should all be cutting down every redwood within striking distance. My neighborhood would then be barren of trees. But many of us live here because we love these trees and we take some limited chances that they won’t kill us in our sleep. I took down a couple big 2nd growth redwoods that leaned in my direction. But when the wind whips in a big storm there are 5 or 6 more that might just flatten my house…I can live with that. Remember- If safety is always first then quality is always second…
But will your neighbor if they are the ones who suffer losses from your trees?
Not my trees. And my neighbor has one slightly leaning her direction but she’s not stressing on it. Although she did split with her 2 babies last big storm and stay with relatives lol. Smart.
Then you shouldn’t have lived in an area with such risk. Safety first indeed! You adapt to the world, not it adapt to you. It’s not a miracle anything when you willingly choose to live in such an environment.
Then maybe people should have to pay the true value for property insurance based upon hazard trees egress distance from fire hydrants fire services response times condition and level of fire service equipment training and staff wild fire risks ect and not force everyone one in the area to pay same rates based on current methods ? Maybe health insurance should also be charged based upon life style choses? Over under weight drug use gender location level of education living in a updated home or some un permitted structure in the woods away from medical and law enforcement support Extreme sports ect .
i remember when got my drivers license i was pissed at how much a month i had to earn just to cover the insurance because as a 16 year old male they considered me high risk but the icing on the cake was a few year later when my sister got hers and it was more than 50 percent less per month because she was a female and considered less risk of a driver , no tickets for either of us just one male teenager verses one female teenager .
females live longer than males on average of 15 years and they are also more prone to seek doctors care and not just for obgyn it is just one of many ways males and females differ in their thinking males dont want to go to a doctor and get told something they dont want to hear or have to change , while women seem to desire to find out and seek treatment / help for almost anything , either way to each their own , but charging the same rates for males and females for health insurance while not for auto insurance is another thing that just doesnt make sense unless there is a reason that people just do not want to admit
Women do use healthcare more often than men—that’s well established by CDC data. But the evidence doesn’t support the idea that it’s because women “seek treatment for almost anything.” Much of the difference comes from preventive care and sex-specific medical needs. Men, meanwhile, are less likely to seek preventive care, which is one reason they have shorter life expectancy. Also, the life expectancy gap isn’t 15 years—it’s closer to 5–6 years in the U.S.
Among adults 19–44, women’s per-capita spending was about 20% higher, with much of the difference attributable to pregnancy and maternity care. https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Statistics-Trends-and-Reports/NationalHealthExpendData/Downloads/AgeandGenderHighlights.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com
In addition, women have been underrepresented in clinical trials, leading to delayed diagnosis and less evidence-based treatment for conditions that disproportionately affect women. That can increase healthcare costs through delayed or ineffective care.
It seems the ‘safe’ thing to do is not to build a house under a hundreds of years old tree(s)! Period. 😉 They are consequential and were there first.
Glad you didn’t get hurt. Back in the early 80s,we had to take out an old growth fir after the one next to it fell on a house in the middle of the night and decapitated the women and pinned her daughter in the house.It looked like a bomb exploded the whole house
Does this mean the neighbors can sue their neighbor 🤔 ? Guess he should have followed the law? IA Cal Fire investigation 🤔?
Scarlett should not be allowed to make a profit from the old growth redwood trees. He should be allowed to recover the cost of tree removal but not more. The rest of the money should go to a non profit group protecting the old growth redwoods. Sound like Scarlett and his accomplices planed to cut down the trees, sell the wood for a premium price and claim they had the proper permits.
I suspect they all knew the correct permit process but wanted to bypass it as it would have blocked the cutting and the wood sale. They used the improper permit to confuse the permit issue. And now nobody knows what to do about the situation. Except the old growth trees have been cut down the wood sold and the money went into some ones pocket
Yep. Cut the tree on a Saturday because nobody is at the permit office to review it until Monday and just say “Oops, my bad!” when they show up on Wednesday and the tree is mostly gone. I do believe the fine for violating County Code § 313-64 is $5000. That’s one thing that irritates me about people around here, is the subterfuge for a quick buck, and everyone else and thing be damned.
Wow worried about permits for trees yet how many buildings home repairs are done in the hills without permits , but yeah pick the guy that bought land and is making it safe for his elderly mother the same guy that had 2 separate companies declare the trees hazards by people that came to his property and inspected them because heaven forbid he might get a few dollars from it as well heaven help us .
it is hard not to see greed when looking at this story not greed on the part of the landowner but greed on the part of the people attempting everything in their power to cause people to spend spend at every step , except when they want something done .
much like the nice old ladies at bingo that say the sweetest cuss words you ever heard at you and about your family if you call bingo before them
Then maybe the land owners should receive a refund from the city county and state for charging them tax on land they can not use , maybe this whole thing could be settled with a unlawful take claim against the county as well as a court order requiring the county provide a insurance bond to absolve this man from any and all liability should life or property damage as a result of him not being able to ensure his property is safe maybe the county should be forced to pay for housing for his elderly mother as well as care that this man would be unable to supply because living across the street is no longer a safe option for her due to the counties denial of this mans right .
i find it laughable personally that the state used health and public safety as a justification for their permit requirement their reasons for enforcing regulations that force compliance with what they deem you should accept as a risk and what you can not , yet here is a damaged tree the man owns the property which means he bought it he thinks the tree is a hazard he hired people that agreed with him yet he must now accept liability should that tree harm or kill someone ? People say trim the tree limb it , maybe he doesnt want to constantly worry about the tree ? Everyone else had the chance to buy that place if they wanted that risk
Trees, the endangered species
Old growth, yes.
You would think they would take the advise from professionals that have worked in the tree care industry then a bunch of elected officials that have no idea of the potential danger.
Heartfelt thankyous to all those neighbors who traipsed up to Eureka to speak in defense of the Ancient Trees so many of us deeply love!
His property. His business.
The county should have to prove a compelling interest in these trees not the other way around.
Can I have a coal fired power plant and retention lake on my property? My yard my business, right?
Cam you keep the coal burning pollutants contained in your yard?
Better get all those tree roots dug up from that redwood. All or nothing if we’re going down that path. That will require digging up other’s yards too. Also, you screwed up the ambience that others also might have bought into that area for. Now you irritated them too, and that’s not very neighborly of you. Don’t buy a house in the forest if you’re going to complain about trees. Same goes for a house on a beach; don’t complain about the ocean or hurricanes for your life choices.
It depends is your yard zoned for industrial power production is it part of a hoa ? Can you ensure the safety of your neighbors from said coal fired power production and does it meet the current epa requirements ? Wait a minute is your yard in california ? If so this state banned coal fired power plants so lobby your elected officials to over turn that little piece of regulation or file for a exemption as for your lake that also depends on factors such as containment type amount secondary containments earth engineering specs and the like oh and you need to also ensure your local government officials havent already agreed to give that water to some other wealthy donor down south .
This whole line of comments is so disrespectful and disappointing.
Can’t cut a tree on your own property, that is not the right answer as far as I am concerned.