Humboldt County Republicans Reiterate the Value of Free Speech Following Tragic Shooting of Charlie Kirk
Press release from the Humboldt County Republican Party:
One of the basic principle that underlies the American spirit is the freedom to speak our mind and state our beliefs without fear of reprisal. That is what Charlie Kirk did so well. He was able to have a dialogue and discussion with people who did not agree with him. It is tragic that his voice was silenced. The Humboldt County Republican Party stands for the principles of free speech without reprisal and the right of all citizens to take part in the national debate without fear. Let us remember Charlie Kirk and his bravery as we do our part as citizens of a free nation.
God Bless America.
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They can’t even wait for the man to be buried.
Waiting, while the extremist domestic terrorist wing of the Democrat party plots another attempt on the leaders of the conservative movement, is unwise.
Are you arguing that Tyler Robinson is a member of the “extremist domestic terrorist wing of the Democrat party ” or have I missed something?
He’s just lighting farts as usual.
No argument. The Democratic Party is a domestic extremist organization.
“Hahahahahahaha! That’s funny!!” Said a true leftist!
Yeah those dang Democratic terrorists I can’t believe what they did on January 6th! Oh wait did I mix that up on who is acting a little extreme?
Not part of the democrat party, but part of the unorganized leftist revolutionary group: antifa. At minimum he was a sympathizer of Antifa.
One bullet casing had the 3 downward arrows, a symbol used by antifa in their festive 2020 mostly peaceful riots.
The riots of 2020 opened fault lines that haven’t healed.
The people going around calling other Americans “fascist, racist, transphobe” etc are all part of that same ideological antifa movement that ruined the reputations of Portland and Seattle as civilized.
also, I don’t think it’s unrecognized that they targeted him the day before 9/11.
kinda seems like a sociological terrorist attack, right?
Well he definitely embodies the values of the extreme left wing by claiming Charlie is a facist.
…”…or have I missed something?”
-KK-
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-Ask AI-
“Is there any such thing as being a member of the “extremist domestic terrorist wing of the Democrat party…???,”
-AI overview-
“There is no official or widely recognized “extremist domestic terrorist wing” of the Democratic Party. Mainstream U.S. political parties, including both the Republican and Democratic parties, officially disavow terrorism and extremism. While some individuals on the far-left have engaged in politically motivated violence, these actors do not represent or operate as a formal part of the Democratic Party.
Extremism and political affiliation
Political rhetoric vs. formal ties: The claim that the Democratic Party has an extremist or terrorist wing is often political rhetoric used by opponents to associate mainstream Democrats with fringe, violent, or radical figures. The activities of left-wing extremists are not sanctioned or directed by the party.
Decentralized extremist activity: Modern domestic terrorism, regardless of ideology, is often carried out by “lone offenders, often radicalized online” rather than organized groups affiliated with a major political party. The FBI and Department of Homeland Security report that both far-right and anti-government extremists pose a significant threat.
Far-left extremist groups: Some far-left extremist groups have engaged in acts of violence or property destruction. Examples include:
The Weather Underground, a far-left organization active in the 1970s, conducted bombings to protest the Vietnam War and other issues.
Antifa, a decentralized anti-fascist movement, has been involved in violent clashes during protests, though it is not considered a major domestic terrorism threat by many security experts.
The Earth Liberation Front and the Animal Liberation Front, which engage in eco-terrorism and animal rights extremism, were labeled serious domestic terrorism threats by the FBI in the early 2000s.
Jane’s Revenge, an abortion rights extremist group, has been active more recently.
Extremism statistics: Studies on domestic terrorism confirm that attacks are not exclusive to one ideological side. A 2022 report from the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) noted a high number of attacks from both far-left and far-right actors in 2021. A 2025 Politico analysis further highlighted the risk of political violence fueled by fear and extremist rhetoric from political leaders on all sides.
Important distinctions
Extremist views vs. extremist violence: While some individual politicians may hold views considered radical by mainstream standards, and some left-leaning extremist groups exist, these are separate from a formal, sanctioned “wing” of the Democratic Party.
Defining domestic terrorism: The U.S. government defines domestic terrorism as “violent, criminal acts” intended to coerce or influence the government. The label of “terrorist” is applied to the perpetrators of these acts, not to a political party as a whole.
Barrack thousand obama,Maxine waters, ,aoc , all are filmed talking to large groups supporting violence
Just like Mr Kirk’s word sometimes we’re taking out of context, so were those metaphorical talking points
Nahhh. Links PLEEEEEASE!
Downvote for wasting bandwidth quoting an “AI overview” instead of thinking for yourself and posting your own thoughts.
I disagree. I took it to mean that this person looked it up on AI in order to get an unbiased opinion to show other people the reality that there is no extremist, far left terroristic group. Individuals, yes some, but as a group, no.
As I understand the way current AI works, it takes your question as a “suggestion”, and writes an essay to support it. It does NOT provide unbiased opinions.
Ai is unbiased? 🤔
I don’t understand all the down votes on this. What you’ve posted here is correct… people are just butt hurt.
Thank you…
When the Host’s list a mile long of “Right-Wing” extremism, was incorrectly represented as being synonymous with, and examples of “Conservatism”, I was momentarily misled, also thinking they were synonymous…
(I also saw an equally incorrect, “left wing” extremism/Democrat comparison…)
But, that was a totally untrue, all too common misconception, being misrepresented, “right” and left”, that I learned through additional research…
I tried to provide a correction,
You saw the reception…
Beliefs, even if wrong, are hard habits to break…
Am not immune to that, either, but I do appreciate being corrected when I’m wrong…
Hat tip to you, for your unbiased extraordinary reasoning…
It’s VERY refreshing…
The down votes are irrelevant to me, since they are just meaningless indicators of a gang/herd mentality, not of knowledge or wisdom…
I wear the downvotes with honor…
I’m certainly not trying to win a popularity contest…
The host ostracizing me has really multiplied and spread through the like a viral contagion…
Perfect…
Her team can have every one of them…
Even so out numbered, I can hold my own…
It’s great practice…
Cancel culture warriors.
Nope, Tyler just got his feelings hurt so he killed Charlie. So which topic set Tyler to the moon, it will surface. The internet is good for that.
His partner was transgender, what a shocker. Tyler killed over hurt feelings, death penalty for tyler and his partner please. Cold blooded killers.
His partner?? It is not clear at this point in the investigation whether 1) his roommate was in fact his partner and 2) that the roommate is in fact trans. We don’t know if either of those things are true yet. What we do know for a fact is that the roommate immediately reported Robinson’s odd messages and behavior to the police and has helped the police in their investigation. You want the death penalty for someone that did their duty as a citizen and reported suspicious behavior to the police?
Oh yes it is. Crystal clear. His lover trans admitted it.
Lots of people were hot to get that $100,000.00 FBI Reeward, it would seem…
Patience please. All things will be revealed in the fullness of time.
He was obviously influenced by it.
Arguing? No.
Stating a fact? Yes.
This comment hasn’t aged well
Are you arguing that he is a Democrat? I haven’t seen any evidence. He apparently had a trans partner appears to be the only evidence of that folks have offered on social media but I didn’t know that one’s sexuality determined one’s political party. To the best of my knowledge, Robinson was neither a Democrat or a Republican and hadn’t voted.
And more importantly, at the time LL made his proclamation, this was two days after Mr. Kirk was tragically assassinated and law enforcement hadn’t released information about his motives.
My point that making that LL making that statement before information came out is hopefully one that is one that continues to age well.
Nice assumptions there, it was a Maga kid. Do you wake everyday blaming your neighbors for the world’s problems?
Be careful not to dehumanize people who disagree with you. The next step down that path is to demonize them. Crazy, possessed people on the fringes will feed on a drumbeat of demonization and come to the warped conclusion that it’s not only acceptable but admirable to kill, not people, but demons.
Wait to show respect? Nah, the man was shot dead for speaking his opinion. I’d say it’s an appropriate time to talk about it.
And did Apopka care that the HumDems spoke out already too? Come on, “man” …
The sad thing about this assassination is that it was done to a person with an opinion. EVERYONE has an opinion. Being shot for having one is not okay. Even if he was a politician it wouldn’t be okay, but *because* he was an “everyman” is what makes the act so THOROUGHLY IN AMERICAN and heinous.
Sleep well, America, the sad rhetoric eating our children is chilling.
In the Humboldt County Democrats press release, they only spoke out in a way to make sure they took no responsibility for their own extremist rhetoric by doubling down on “abhorring” the victim’s opinions before proceeding to what was then apparently only a self-serving statement of principle they don’t really take seriously enough. This was an example of the problem of extremist’s rhetoric that lead to the murder. It would be generous if it was ignored.
Please list example of this extremist rhetoric from actual Democrats. We can then compare to extremist rhetoric from Republicans and see which is more likely to motivate violent actions.
Many Democrat politicians from Biden down called Republicans Fascists, existential threats to democracy, racists, white supremacists, deplorables, etc. Charlie Kirk was a thoughtful man and he was called the above names and more which could not be further from the truth.
Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian political ideology that emphasizes extreme nationalism, a dictatorial leader, and the suppression of opposition. It often involves the belief in a natural social hierarchy and the subordination of individual interests to the perceived needs of the nation or race.
Nothing screams “suppression of opposition” like assassination.
Actions speak louder than words.
MELISSA HORTMAN
Evidence suggests Melissa Hortman’s tragic assassination was linked to her lone Democratic vote for HF1, a bill stripping undocumented adults of MinnesotaCare coverage — just days before the attack.
https://www.newsweek.com/democrat-lawmaker-husband-killed-targeted-minnesota-shooting-2085552
Thoroughly discredited conspiracy theory. The killer targeted another lawmaker who did not vote that way.
https://alabamareflector.com/2025/06/16/a-democratic-legislator-was-assassinated-right-wing-influencers-coughed-out-disinformation/
Thoroughly discredited by what evidence?
I’m surprised that you would link a commentary/opinion piece and present it as factual.
Here’s something better. Sorry running on too little sleep and making hasty=poor decisions. Here’s the Court records. https://kymkemp.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/1-main.pdf
The main evidence you should look for is that Depape broke into the house. (He was not let in by Pelosi).
The 911 call made by Pelosi is him describing a stranger and obviously trying to give info to the operator without inflaming Depape. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/paul-pelosi-attack-911-call-shows
Depape says he was there to break Nancy’s kneecaps. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67372363
Here’s more details from the trial: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-11-13/paul-nancy-pelosi-testifies-federal-trial-david-depape-kidnapping-assault-conspiracy-theories
Depape “extensively researched the Pelosi family, along with others on his so-called target list, and paid for a service that provided their emails and home addresses.” Hardly needed if he knew Paul as a friend or a lover. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-11-13/paul-nancy-pelosi-testifies-federal-trial-david-depape-kidnapping-assault-conspiracy-theories
I can go on but I’d really like to sleep instead.
You’re getting too little sleep because you’re expending too much time and energy documenting facts, as here, that should be obvious to anyone who’s been paying attention.
The narrative on the right is increasingly dominated by alt fact fanatics who couldn’t care less what the facts really are — which means all the documentation in the world isn’t going to change their minds.
That’s so true but not for the reasons you give.
Don’t confuse them with facts. They have already made up their minds.
You should definitely get some sleep because we were discussing Vance Boelter and Melissa Hortman — not Depape and Pelosi.
Jesus Christ. Next I’ll start hallucinating. Boelter went to the homes of several Democratic lawmakers. He shot and injured Democratic state Sen. John Hoffman and his wife, Yvette, were also shot but survived an assault . None of them voted the same as Hortman. The suspect had a list of elected officials he intended to target, all of them Democrats, authorities said. Joe Thompson, acting U.S. attorney for the district of Minnesota, said in a press release that the shootings were “targeted political assassinations.”https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/vance-boelter-fbi-details-charges-suspect-minnesota-lawmaker-shootings/ https://www.factcheck.org/2025/09/after-kirks-death-a-false-social-media-post-on-partisan-reaction-to-violence/
“Federal prosecutors already revealed details of their investigation showing Boelter had driven to two other legislators’ homes in the roughly hour and a half timeline. Moriarty charged Boelter with trying to kill one of those lawmakers because he went to her door in the same way he approached the Hortmans’ and Hoffmans’ homes and tried to get inside. She said it doesn’t matter that Rep. Kristin Bahner wasn’t home. Moriarty said Boelter rang Bahner’s door for two full minutes while yelling it is the police and trying to open the door himself.” https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2025-08-15/upgraded-charges-filed-against-minnesota-man-accused-of-killing-lawmaker-wounding-another
“The main evidence you should look for is that [DePape] broke into the house. (He was not let in by Pelosi).
-KK-
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Just because DePape broke into the house at one point in time, doesn’t necessarily mean that he hadn’t possibly been PREVIOUSLY LET IN BY PELOSI and then left/got let out, before possibly, after that, BREAKING BACK IN…
Is there specific evidence that…,
…”He was not let in by Pelosi.”…
…even for a brief moment…
… before DePape was shown the door, exited, and then broke back in, after that…???
Pelosi may have initially assessed that DePape was not a threat, allowing him in over the threshold, and then subsequently giving him the bums rush…
Possibly after which, he broke “back” in…
Possibly, the break in could have happened after just such an informal encounter, as a knock on the door, and a “cordial” greeting, such as a polite drink offering…
And I was just wondering, since the DePape/Pelosi event was first brought up in response to Espino asking for a list of Prominent Democrat politicians who were Shooting victims….
What caliber was the hammer…???
Are you saying the murders of Hortman justify the murder of Kirk? That’s what it looks like.
No. They’re giving the lie to the argument that the Democrats are fostering violence, and the Republicans are all peaceful free-speechers.
Assuming there are democrats on this site, this thread abounds with extremist rhetoric. It just that extremists don’t think they are extremists. All those memes that have cherry picked phrases to accuse Kirk of things he never said. Your own is an example – No self examination. Only a doubling down on accusing others of being worse.
As Pelosi puts the common attitude of the Progressive posters here you just repeated- “”People don’t have any intention of saying something that’s going to lead to something dangerous,” Pelosi said. “But we cannot take responsibility for the minds that are out there and how they hear it.” Hello? If Trump is charged with encouraging violence by his rhetoric, there can be no excuse for refusing to examine their own. Yet that is exactly what happens- from this comment to the calling out of Kirk as a vile right-wing troll.
If everyone does it, who is going to stop the downward slide? Well maybe Steven King “Stephen King has repeatedly apologized for a false accusation he made about conservative activist Charlie Kirk, who was fatally shot at a college campus in Utah on Sept. 10.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2025/09/12/stephen-king-charlie-kirk/86123212007/
https://dallasexpress.com/national/leftists-growing-assassination-culture-democrats-rhetoric-promotes-political-violence/
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/11/politics/washington-charlie-kirk-political-violence
https://www.aol.com/news/watch-dems-republicans-clash-house-011535700.html
First, not a democrat, and second, what meme did I post that was a cherry-picked phrase out of context about Kirk? To be blunt, I had never paid any attention to Kirk because what little I saw of him made him look like the typical podcaster who used faux outrage to get views.
You do seem devoted to putting words in my mouth that I never said or implied. I simply posed a question about which party has been generating the most violence-encouraging rhetoric.
No, you did not “simply posed a question “. You challanged. And apparently, when I made some effort to take it as an honest challenge, involving Democrat rhetoric, you switched over to an unreasonable ad hominem attack.
Oh, sorry. You posted some links where people accused the Democrats of causing this and one where Stephen King said something bad that he retracted and apologized for. None of it seemed like extremist rhetoric calling for violence although I suppose if someone was a devoted follower of the author they might take it as a sign.
Meanwhile some conservatives were directly calling for war and rounding up all the Democrats and putting them in prison for the crime of being a Democrat.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/09/charlie-kirk-killing-assassination-reactions-right-wing-grief-outrage-retribution/
Trump’s previous rhetoric is similar — demonizing and vilifying his opposition and calling for direct action against them by his supporters.
Exactly
What else would you expect of those people? They are hypocrites and liars. They are celebrating.
Oh dear, Yabut and TRG are not going to be happy about you placing this here instead of where they want things placed.
At least this was a measured response compared to the ranting of the so called
Conservatives commenting here
She better watch out, they are in control and may replace her with
Oh wait….
And I can almost imagine and almost hear you both grinning and chuckling with glee and satisfaction under your breath about it…
Bravo…
Tee hee…
Yabut doesn’t care about the issue. And is hardly concerned you care about what Yabut cares about. I’m just in shock that something I’ve never seen- a “press release” from the Humboldt Republican Party appeared here at all. I didn’t even know they had one but apparently they do. https://humboldtrepublicanparty.com/committee-events/
Really?
https://kymkemp.com/2025/09/12/humboldt-county-democrats-condemn-violence-call-for-reflection-following-utah-tragedy/#comment-1865589
Yes, really. Yabut supports people when they find themselves attacked unfairly on this site and no one else comes to their defense. She doesn’t care (at least much at all) that someone categorized putting this particular of “press release” under crime using their inconsistent and arbitrary standards. But she does care when people are so attached to their foolishly wrong ideas they think it gives them permission harrass someone who happens to be right about those ideas and said so.
On this site, many, many lefties and their sycophants show up to attack right-wingers who are wrong so Yabut can leave it to them. But almost no one will support right-wingers who are right, so there Yabut has found her niche. A subtlety unlikely to be distinguished here.
Yabut refers to herself in the 3rd person?? That’s spooky. But I like her contrarian disposition.
Yabut simply gets tired of constantly having to defend herself personally because personal attacks are so common here. So, as she generally objects to making everything about personalities rather than the idea, she is trying something different than the usual ” I never said that” . I,I, I. She’d never be a Trump because it not only irritates her when others make it all about themselves, it irritates her when she is forced to make it all about herself too.
But Yabut can tell that it doesn’t work and sugarcoating it didn’t hide the bad taste, so she will soon stop it.
I think I know what you mean. I’ve also wanted to say “I never said that” a number of times. The structure of this comments section often results in not knowing who’s responding to what.
I use my real name here so that I own my comments in the sense that it keeps me from going completely ape shit with my comments. It’s easy to hide behind a screen name and yell nazi, fascist, commie, moron, etc. Having my real name on my comments helps me to avoid being a total flaming asshole. Most of the time.
Agreed. I fully support our constitutional right to free speech, but nowhere is it said or implied that our speech can be anonymous. People should all be required to use their real names, when posting anywhere.
I very much appreciate Yabut.
Thank you.
Thank you, Yabut, for being here and keeping a balanced conversation. It pleases me to see the feminine third person pronouns! I guess because most women i know are terrified of being seen as anything but 100% left-wing. (Well, most women who have already been left-wing for a while. I do know conservative women who are very confident in their beliefs– rancher women, mostly. For some uninformed reason, i don’t think they spend much time commenting on blogs.) Of course, you don’t have to be “seen” as anything, since you don’t use your real name! Probably a smart move.
I’m a woman who also appreciates your thoughtful comments, Laura.
Thank you.
Wonderful! Thank you. I believe i usually agree with your take on things, Fly– and always enjoy an intelligent angle!
Yep, it’s the first one I’ve ever gotten from them. I was delighted and welcomed them to send more.
First one and filed it under Crime…???
That’ll teach ’em…!!!
SMH…
I doubt that they were so delighted as you are about that… Someone should ask them how delighted THEY are about that…
I’m certainly not…
You may have welcomed more of the same, but I would be surprised if they would not now be more hesitant to submit them to RHBB…
I certainly wouldn’t advise it…
I certainly would be hesitant, due to the HCRP press release being inappropriately categorized and relegated to the dark realm of the crime section…
The HCRP press release made no mention of crime…
It matter not a whit as far as a justification of where the HCDP press release that did mention crime was categorized…
The HCRP press release did/does not belt miss categorized in the crime section…
It should not have been associated with crime, as it it was associated with crime
Why not simply all and ask the HCRP how they feel about it…???
They ought to be more ashamed at the pathetic writing they just tried to pass off *as* a press release 🙄
Too bad Susan M. couldn’t manage a school bus let alone the helm of the sorry excuse that is the HumCoReps. They ran a bunch of young blood out of there a few years ago. Pity.
“To preserve the freedom of the human mind then & freedom of the press, every spirit should be ready to devote itself to martyrdom; for as long as we may think as we will, & speak as we think, the condition of man will proceed in improvement,.” –Thomas Jefferson
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m7KGNWY8cVw&feature=youtu.be
They tell us to play by these rules, and they keep playing “Lucy with the football on Charlie Brown”
over and over
they keep using their power and wealth to consolidate power and control.
we keep popping out babies who need to entrained and weaponized against their own best interests
our founding fathers and mothers wouldn’t be surprised,
they’d be disappointed
Just another destabilizing force that filters the clever sociopaths and psychopath in an upward trajectory using the promise of inclusion into the club!
The FEW CONTROLLING THE MANY. The oldest game in human history.
I think we keep asking questions and we already know the answer!
We’ve been living by the rules of society and these people flood our country with people wanting to replace our culture and traditions.
They will never stop, and they have been planning on this eventuality for generations, notice the ability to kill people from the air, with 30 solid years of video game entrainment, and those kids get to afford the high cost of this wicked game
Easy to be a republican right now, they have all the power and even have the supreme court in orange man’s back pocket. No need to speak, red wave just moving on. Country will see alot of change and more hurt feelings.
There’s really no reason to continue arguing with these people, they’re a thing of the past.
OK, Now I am offended…
Nowhere in this press release mentions the shooting of Charlie Kirk, at all, so why was it unilaterally added to the substance and intent of the article, at all …???
And no crime is mentioned, nor implied, until the headline is added, which totally alters the narrative…
Being a Humboldt County Republican, this Humboldt County Republican Party Press Release being even associated with the shooting of Charlie Kirk, without so much as having mentioned it, AND being inappropriately filed in the crime section of RHBB, is to me, very personally offensive, times two…
May I strongly object…???
This press release does not belong in the crime section…
And the headline clearly misrepresents the BOTH the content, AND the intent, of the carefully worded Humboldt County Republican Party Press Release…
This Humboldt County Republican Party Press Release should have been properly filed in the correct category, just the same as any other political party press release that has made no. specific mention of a crime, and should specifically not be, in the crime section…
I respectfully request that this press release please be filed appropriately in it’s proper category, which would not be in the crime section…
And I also respectfully request that the unnecessary, added, altered, reference to Charlie Kirks otherwise unmentioned shooting,in the headline, (which the Humboldt County Republican party CLEARLY very carefully and quite intentionally AVOIDED in the Press Release), PLEASE, be edited OUT, instead of it being edited IN…
Again…
Please…
Sincerely,
The Humboldt County Republican Party are not criminals for submitting a press release…
It’s not a crime to submit a press release…
The Humboldt County Republican Party Press Release MAKES NO MENTION of the “SHOOTING OF CHARLIE KIRK”…!!!
As a headline,
“HUMBOLDT COUNTY REPUBLICANS REITERATE THE VALUE OF FREE SPEECH”
…would be entirely sufficient, accurate, and respectfully, properly concise…
The HCRP Press Release, needed no added, unofficial, unrequested, and/or unauthorized, uncalled for, sensationalist editorial “angle”, nor an entirely inappropriate editorial association with “CRIME”…
I am genuinely curious as to how the Humboldt County Republican Party Leadership and/or Membership might assess the altered presentation of their carefully worded Official Press Release…???
Did they specifically wish, and/or, ask RHBB, that it be located in the “CRIME” SECTION…???
I highly doubt it…!!!
I certainly would not have…
Yeah a county that routinely denies people their civil rights, is tak9ng a stand for your rights.
This County is NOT run by Republicans…
Oh PLEASE. Go breathe into a paper bag, you’re hyperventilating.
Press release: It is tragic that his voice was silenced.
But don’t say shot? Should we believe that he was ruptured up to heaven and his voice silenced by a choir of angles?
The press release is a response to a specific crime, where else should it go? RHBB doesn’t have a MARTYRDOM section.
LOL..Spot on
He will next be spotted outside RHBB office carrying a protest sign.
“Breathe into a paper bag”…???
I’m “hyperventilating”…???
REALLY…???
Do I get a turn to be rude, also…or do just you…???
How about you try “putting a sock in it”…???
(Your “voice would be silenced”, but it damn sure wouldn’t be “a crime”…!!!)
NOWHERE DOES THE PRESS RELEASE MENTION A/THE, “TRAGIC SHOOTING OF CHARLIE KIRK”
It’s ONLY IN THE HEADLINE…
Well, now you’ve gone and got yourself all worked up again.
There’s no need to shout.
Kirk’s name was mentioned twice in a one paragraph press release.
Of course it’s about the shooting.
Hopefully we can at least all agree that was a crime.
Nobody’s shouting…
Contrary to Liberal belief, merely mentioning Charlie Kirk’s name, even twice, does NOT constitute a crime…
Or mean that it was about the shooting…
It was about Charlie Kirk.
So, no, I definitely do not believe doing so was a crime….
You don’t believe that that somebody shooting Kirk was a crime?
Then here’s an issue where you and I are apparently going to disagree.
Can you read…???
Did you miss this….
“Contrary to Liberal belief, merely mentioning Charlie Kirk’s name, even twice, does NOT constitute a crime…”
I get where you’re going. I also believe that the letter itself would be better served filled under “letters to the editor” rather than “crime” …
Cheers ♥️🤍💙
The republicans love free speech until it comes to newscasters saying anything other than support for republican values.
Democrats believe in free speech if it agrees with them. If not, off to the riots, looting and violence.
FFS, that you can type that on this website where you spew stuff I hate on a regular basis is a testimony to the fact that you are not at all uncomfortable with making completely false overstatements without the slightest concern for being accurate.
This site never called out the BLM “protests” for their crimes. This site never called out the pro Palestinian “protests” for their crimes. That doesn’t really give credibility at all. In fact, you yourself called me out over and over again for pointing out the criminal aspects of these events. The actual actions of the left speak as much as their rhetoric and on the political scene, both are disgusting.
Literally, you are right now spewing crap on my site and you are somehow still of the opinion that I don’t really believe in free speech…That you are capable of that level of dissonance says everything most reasonable people would need to know about trusting what you are saying now.
Kym, when it comes to news stories like fires, crashes, activities in the community, almost everything on your site, you are the best source of good information hands down. I tend to see biases in subjects of politics and religion and call it how I see it. I think we can agree that the terrible crimes happening across the country should never be overlooked regardless of who the criminals are.
Since I (almost) only cover stories with a local angle…like the local BLM protests and the local Charlie Kirk candlelight vigil, I probably won’t cover everything that matters to you. I don’t get enough sleep as it is.
Kym Kemp does believe in free speech as witnessed by allowing opposing views on this site unlike the Lost Coast Outpost where the moderator, Angie C, relentlessly blocks opposing views.
Plus Kim has a brain, unlike AngieC. I dont agree with her politically on most issues , but she does not block opinions that dont agree with hers,
Omigosh, are you right about that! Kym has a brain, and also a philosophy she sticks with, about allowing opinions she doesn’t agree with, as long as they are not personal attacks, encouragements of violence, etc.
But over at LoCO it’s just a circus of willy-nilly blocking of people the moderator has perhaps at one time disagreed with. I tried a comment a couple of weeks back, figuring it would be up for, max, an hour. Sure enough, after coffee, Angie had disappeared it. Lol. It was just too funny and right on, my comment was, if i do say so!
Never called out Eurekan, either….
I can, if you wish, provide you with a long list of democrat rioting and looting. You see I was there in the 1960s.
Just one example is the organized terrorist group Weather Underground. One of its leaders, Bill Ayers, was a mentor to Barack Obama. Ayers now focuses on indoctinating prospective teachers and training them to indoctinate children.
Instigators and protesters are not in the same bucket. Also it was probably members that burned down the Minneapolis Precinct and we’re convicted. Your opinion reeks with bias.
What a weird set of comments…
Someone was up in arms about in which category this was published.
Petty.
Obviously, this guy is being lauded as a martyr, another Abraham Lincoln.
Not having heard anything that this man said, at his booths or elsewhere, I have no opinion about his discourse.
If his words were ugly and judgmental, then it is understandable that he angered others.
Silencing someone by an act of violence, however, is not the answer.
Sadly, in this country that worships guns and violence, even to the point of mischaracterizing a constitutional amendment to enshrine unregulated gun ownership, it is not surprising that this event occurred.
With someone like orange in leadership, with his incinderary rhetoric, it is surprising there is not more such violence.
Yeah… Leftists don’t like what President Donald J Trump says so it’s acceptable for someone on the Left to attempt to assassinate him? Twice? And because they failed it’s acceptable for the Left to assassinate other conservative leaders?
Did you read his comment or are you just trolling? I am becoming more and more convinced it’s the latter.
It’s like these folks are looking in a mirror and don’t realize it.
Projecting is one accusing someone else of what one is guilty of…
You have provided a perfect, textbook example…
Thank you for that illuminating illustration…
Hypocrisy abounds…
Denial abounds…
Irony abounds…
You are obviously triggered by the anti democrat comments Kym. Love your site but I think it might be time for you to go relax a little but and stop feeling so attacked. Peace to you.
There goes more assumptions. When did all these liberals become so well trained in tactical gear and guns and stuff. Cuz you know us liberals we just have huge gun collections and practice the shooting range all the freaking time
The second amendment is not being mis characterized . It was designed as a defensive mechanism against tyrannical government. It, along with the first amendment, secures freedom.
For those that may have missed it here is why you’re seeing the press releases under crime. Though it should have been obvious in the first place.
https://kymkemp.com/2025/09/12/humboldt-county-democrats-condemn-violence-call-for-reflection-following-utah-tragedy/#comment-1865834
Yes of course, I’m absolutely sure that is EXACTLY what you were going to say, but never did…
Word for word…
Kym Kemp,
How about a compromise…???
This works better for me, because, this way, its no longer suggestively misleading, that the HCRP Press Release said anything at all about “Charlie Kirks tragic shooting”…
Instead of the Headline reading…
“HUMBOLDT COUNTY REPUBLICANS REITERATE THE VALUE OF FREE SPEECH FOLLOWING TRAGIC SHOOTING OF CHARLIE KIRK”
Maybe…
“FOLLOWING TRAGIC SHOOTING OF CHARLIE KIRK, HUMBOLDT COUNTY [REPUBLICAN PARTY] EMPHASIZES THE VALUE OF FREE SPEECH”
…???…
What’s with the “reiterates” thing…???
I don’t remember any previous HCRP Press Release…
Why do you keep bothering her? She appears to not want to respond to you.
Or have I missed something?
If I promise to never respond to you unless you apologize to me for scrutinizing me, will you stop with all the pesky scrutiny…???
The point is she asked you not to respond to her, yet you keep pestering her. If you don’t want to apologize fine, but respect her wishes.
No means no.
Or am I missing something?
Why are you still responding to me…???
I thought we had a deal…???
Yes you are missing something…
Long ago, I asked that a commenter not respond to me…
another commenter asked that I not reply to them…
Kym said it was fine if people replied to commenters that didn’t want certain other commenters to reply to them…
I don’t expect Kym to respond to my comments…
But what leads you to believe that she doesn’t respond to my comments..???
Your wrong….
Don’t reply to me anymore unless you first apologize to me for scrutinizing me and calling into question my impeccable, unquestionable accuracy, infallibility and spotless, Teflon integrity…
The power of balance honestly lies with me, and that way our stories always perfectly align…
I’m JUST doing what others do FIRST…!!!
I’ll stop, AFTER they stop…!!!
But not a split second BEFORE..!!!
LOL…!!!
Now Shooo!!!!
😁
“my impeccable, unquestionable accuracy, infallibility and spotless, Teflon integrity…” I know this was intended as sarcasm, but it is still the funniest thing I have read since last Sunday’s comic pages
She communicates with him in a secrete code only he knows about.
Or she uses other people to pass on messages. Even the spirit world at times.
The usual ways people communicate.
”She communicates with him in a secrete code only he knows about.”
YOU’RE WRONG…!!!
I didn’t say ANYTHING about her communicating with me…
You’re WRONG again…!!!
(Because she doesn’t…)
And as far as your claim that,
“she uses other people to pass on messages.”, I’m virtually certain you are WRONG there, ALSO…
But, let’s just call that “a foul tip”…
This absolute NONSENSE speaks ENTIRELY for ITSELF…!!!
”Even the spirit world at times.”
That’s WRONG TOO…
No such Text, Email, Uber, Lyft, Door Dash, and/or, “spirit world” delivered messages) have been requested or received… I can be reasonably certain, then, that none have been sent…
Your claim is unsubstantiated, therefore it’s WRONG, as well…
WRONG, WRONG, AND, WRONG, AGAIN…
Strike one, two, two, and finally, strike three…
So much for your batting average…
Time to head back to the dugout…
“But what leads you to believe that she doesn’t respond to my comments..???
You’re wrong…”
What’s your point…???
You’re not missing anything — Kym grew weary of the constant nitpicking — can’t write a headline, can’t write a story, can’t or won’t tell or admit the truth, etc. — and posted the following after finally deciding she’d had enough:
https://kymkemp.com/2025/07/23/assemblymember-chris-rogers-cutting-public-media-is-an-attack-on-the-north-coasts-voice/#comment-1852969
As you’ve noted, Kym requested he not respond to her and also said she wouldn’t respond to him unless he apologized.
Incredibly, he said it was he who was owed an apology!!
And instead of respecting Kym’s wishes that he not respond to her he frequently addresses her directly and attempts to bait her into a response which is incredibly rude
Laughably, apparently oblivious to the fact that nitpicking headlines was part of what got him cross threaded with the site owner, he proposed that Kym “compromise” by rewriting the headline for this article!!
His ongoing quest for rhetorical redemption has become a sub-plot of its own woven through the comments.
And he is still free to continue posting his voluminous narcissistic rhetorical rope-a-dope — but no one should be surprised that Kym doesn’t respond.
BALDERDASH…!!!, Truth Be told…!!!
In my own defense…
Why haven’t you properly included the relevant “UNFORGIVABLE” “offense” that preceded her KNEE JERK OSTRACIZING ADMONISHMENT…???
(I had the nerve, the gall, THE INSOLENCE to say, “Balderdash!”, to the “almighty, all knowing, all powerful, administrator” Kym Kemp…)
OMG FFS WTF…!!!
Right…???
Stop the fucking presses…!!!
Extra!, Extra!, Read all about it…!!!
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Kym Kemp
1 month ago
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Do you remember that woman who needed an abortion because she was miscarrying here in Eureka….and St Joe’s sent her to Mad River because no, they don’t perform the operation even though ➡️her doctors said her life was in danger.⬅️
The issue wasn’t payment. The issue was that Providence didn’t think her life was in danger enough…
https://kymkemp.com/2024/10/01/attorney-general-bonta-sues-providence-over-draconian-hospital-policies-that-denied-emergency-abortion-care-to-humboldt-co-woman/
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The Real Guest
1 month ago
Reply to Kym Kemp
➡️Balderdash.
Please, cut and paste directly from your link exactly where…
“her doctors said her life was in danger”…
What were her doctors names, and what EXACTLY did THEY say…⬅️
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That’s what this is all about…
OOOOOOOH…!!!
THE NERVE OF SOME PEOPLE…!!!
TRG is THE WORST…!!!
FOR PROPER PERSPECTIVE…
HERE IT IS AGAIN…
SHE WILL NEVER SPEAK TO ME AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THIS…!!!
…???
BRACE YOURSELVES…!!!
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➡️”Balderdash.
Please, cut and paste directly from your link exactly where…
“her doctors said her life was in danger”…
What were her doctors names, and what EXACTLY did THEY say”⬅️
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Get a grip, Truth be told, and snap out of it…!!!
That’s some petty shit…
I disagreed with her sacred fucking poppycock (IMO) claim, so I asked her,
…wait for it,
…”PLEASE”…
…for supporting evidence within her link that I wasn’t finding …
She thinks she provided it, but I still disagree…
Its not exactly there…
Judge for yourself…
See if you can find it, then you cut and paste if for all to see…
…or not…
She provided her version of proof, and I provided mine…
Be aware that there were two troves of evidence, on from the County case , and another trove of evidence from the State case
Kym may have gleaned her evidence from only the county case, without referring to the evidence from the state case…
I searched both, and did not find her un quotation marked claim
I was holding what she said they said, to being a exact quote, not holding it to be an/her interpretation of what “they” said…
But I looked for more than one saying it, as her claim suggested..
(Just to be clear and fair, Kym didn’t use quotation marks in her comment, on her claim of what “her doctors said”, and I held her claim of what she said “they” said, to that higher standard…)
That may have been her interpretation of what ,”they” said, but that was not exactly what “they” said, and there was only “one” that said it, either way, not more than one, and I didn’t find been one exact reference to it, let alone more than one…
And the issue WAS payment, she wasn’t going for the 40,000 dollar helicopter ride to UCSF, where her specialists were ready and prepared, in the event of her arrival…
So it was an exaggeration, at least…
My unforgivable sin was to dispute it…
So it would seem that she can dish it out, but she can’t take it…
She calls people out and disputes what commenters say on the regular…!!!
Just by using the word Balderdash, it seems to have set her off like a firecracker……
Maybe she was having a bad day…,???
That’s when the odds of someone getting the proverbial whip, (edit), or the proverbial axe, (being banned), or the proverbial “go sit in the corner with the dunce cap on”, (being put on moderation) goes way up, and/or becomes very predictably inevitable…
I’ve been observing it for years…
(I learned LONG AGO that it’s best not to comment at all in the days leading up to what I figured must be bill day…)
28th +- a few days…???
Has there been a concentration of moderation/banning during that vicinity to what I figured must be bill day…???
I’ve always wondered what the statistics showed as far as if commenters being banned/moderated was/is/has been, associated with their respective chronological close proximity to bill day/date…
Everyone hates Bill Day.
Best to lay low in the comment section for a few days around bill day…
That’s when the nail that sticks up in the comment section, gets the Dave DePape hammer down…!!!
Anyone else notice that…???
At least wait until somebody else gets the hammer, and the wielder is appeased/relieved, and the coast is clear, before you stick your neck out too far with a snarky comment, especially it yor an already despised red/righty…
Continued…
This is the pertinent link…
https://kymkemp.com/2025/07/23/assemblymember-chris-rogers-cutting-public-media-is-an-attack-on-the-north-coasts-voice/#comment-1852869
One thing I have always admired as I pass through this life is a high quality human mind and Charlie Kirk had one. I’m not religious so I ignored that part but I saw several of his college debates on youtube and he was very impressive. He talked the talk and walked the walk of free speech, allowing anyone to approach the microphone, those who disagreed with him were given priority. I have seen him admit it when beaten on a point and I have seen people who opposed him and lost thank him for his time at the end of the exchange.
Charlie’s problem was he was too good. He has almost singlehandedly broken the grip of leftist ideologues on many college campuses and he brought a host of young people converted to common sense conservatism to the polls and Trump was elected. A political operative of such skill was a huge threat to left . They could not beat him with ideas because they have none so he had to go. Anytime someone this talented is wasted like this, its not just a tragedy for his family, his colleagues, his followers, its a tragedy for all of us.
The man who killed Charlie Kirk was reportedly raised in the Mormon Church and came from a conservative background. He attended church, supported Donald Trump, and the ‘TRA’ marking found on a bullet casing likely refers to ‘Training Ammunition’ not any political or ideological agenda.
“Tyler Robinson’s Ammo”
TRA..???
Probably his personal reloads…
Transsexual Resistance Army?
I knew it!!!
It was not a written warning it was a manufacturing abbreviation Training round ammunition. They are used in military or law enforcement drills for tracking purposes. His father was a police man it checks out. Its just a sad shitty situation. The only difference is its conservative vs. conservative which is why you care. If it were another Uvalde I’m sure we would see how much gun violence means to you
He lives with his trans lover
Apparently he was a homosexual with a trans lover. This may have been part of his motive. I would suggest he had psychological issues, but still understood the nature of of his act.
I don’t want to speak too soon but you might want to check out Nick Fuentes, an even further right spokesperson, who thought Kirk wasn’t right enough. Some major news organizations are hinting that the evidence is leading to the shooter being his follower.
I doubt that, but who knows right?
fuentas was critical of Charlie, but it wasn’t a blood feud like left vs right.
fundamentally fuentas and Kirk had more in common than apart.
they both are political dynamo’s who ran around the gatekeepers.
the main difference I noticed was Fuentes was essentially a racist and not very sociable, whereas Charlie truly believed all people were children of god and believed all people were the same flesh.
kirks message is a much more enduring one
Let me get this straight, your suggesting that Tyler Robinson was a follower of Nick Fuentes, an even more extreme right spokesman than Charlie Kirk…???
Are you really trying to posit and or/ postulate that Tyler Robinson really assassinated Charlie Kirk, because to him, Charlie Kirk was a lefty…???
That’s perfect, Kym…
Why didn’t I think of that…???
It’s so obvious…
So overt it’s covert…!!
Twisting it so completely, that the narrative has been properly restored again to being a naughty righty victimizing an innocent lefty…
All Is now well in the world…
Mission accomplished…
I never really believed it was a righty that was actually the victim, EITHER…!!!
That’s just SILLY..!!!
Lefty’s are the only possible victims, because, just like everyone that knows all knows, righty’s are ALWAYS the perps, and are NEVER the victims…
The narrative must NEVER be compromised…!!!!
Viva la narrativa..!!!
After that kind of strenuous mental gymnastics, it’s high time for a well earned SIESTA… Forty winks it is…
If “major news organizations “ are reporting that then one knows damned well it’s a damned lie. Thats the Left’s propaganda wing covering up the radicalization of Tyler Robinson at Utah State by extremist anti fascist faculty.
I want to be clear that I am not saying this is a fact. I’m saying that this theory is moving off the conspiracy pages onto more mainstream platforms. I don’t think we have the information to make a decision on this right now. People on both sides are searching for ways to blame the other side for the assassination. The only good news about that kind of blame is at least both sides still apparently think political assassination is horrific. The reality is if the shooter is left or right though doesn’t make the left or right more likely to be correct.
The shooter is most recently registered to vote “Unaffiliated”, neither Democrat nor Republican…
I’ve duly provided that proof.
His voter status is, currently, however, listed as “inactive”, as he has not voted in the last two general elections…
“People on both sides are searching for ways to blame the other side for the assassination.”
You can say that again…!!!
I don’t think your logic is solid on the claim that “both sides still apparently think political assassination is horrific” is valid. There are plenty of folx who have made zero effort to hide their glee and celebrate the assassination. Those folx are simply hoping for the killer to be a deranged right winger because it would be the cherry on top of their sundae.
According to the New York Post (link in today’s jail report), the assassin lived with a man who pretends to be a woman. That would seem to me to indicate the speculation you shared is highly unlikely to be accurate.
Kym, I had no idea you had went this far down the liberal rabbit hole. What you are suggesting is absolutely absurd! Talk about burying your head in the sand.
The inscriptions on the casings were…
”Hey fascist, catch!”
”O Bella ciao, Bella ciao, Bella ciao Ciao ciao!”
”If you read this, you are GAY Lmao.”
Oh yeah, those really sound like the words of a right wing extremist. SMH
Sure, Charlie Kirk needed to die because he wasn’t conservative enough for the shooter… you are actually presenting that as a possibility? Unbelievable.
For those unaware, Bella Ciao is the name of an Italian folk song dating back to the 19th century that became an anthem of the resistance against fascist leader Benito Mussolini during the Second World War.
I also love that Newsweek thinks the third saying is anti-gay! Seriously!? That is obviously just a bad joke against the likely right wing LEO that would end up reading it.
I’ve never hidden that I’m very left of center—I’ve said that so many times. If that’s somehow news to you, then I must not be the center of the universe… (God knows my sense of humor here is likely to be misread as arrogance rather than the reverse of that but I amused myself and sometimes that is worth it for me.)
The theory of Kirk’s killer being far right has moved from fringe conspiracy sites into mainstream media coverage. That shift is worth observing in and of itself and why I mentioned it—But it doesn’t mean the content is verified, nor does it mean I endorse it. I’m just intrigued as a reporter to see these waves of theories.
But frankly, I wish I hadn’t even mentioned the theory. I forget that even with caveats being clearly outlined, folks will read what they want into something. Including that I endorse a theory rather than am just intrigued by the way the news flows.
So I’m not going into why some folks think the inscriptions are indicative of the far right online community. Any mention could be misread as support.
To be clear: I was not suggesting Kirk was killed for being insufficiently conservative. I’m saying if that theory is being picked up by larger outlets, it’s part of the conversation but now I wished I’d kept my fingers quiet.
Kym, I understand why you are trying to backtrack your statement, but let’s look at it with a critical eye, shall we?
You claim you were not endorsing the theory, but rather the topic of interest was that mainstream news organizations were now reporting that the shooter was possibly a right-wing, Nick Fuentes follower. That claim does not jive with your original statement however.
You opened with, “I don’t want to speak too soon but you might want to check out Nick Fuentes, an even further right spokesperson, who thought Kirk wasn’t right enough.”
‘’YOU told the readers to check out Nick Fuentes. YOU said that YOU don’t want to speak too soon. You were the one positing this theory here, it wasn’t until the second sentence you mentioned the mainstream media’s reporting on the subject, which reads more like you are using them to back up YOUR beliefs.
So you tell me, when you wrote that statement, did you personally think that the shooter may have possibly been a right-wing Nick Fuentes supporter? Because again, if you thought at the time that was a legitimate possibility (and I find it unlikely you did not given you took the time to write that post) then I stick by my claim that your political bias is seriously clouding your critical thinking skills. I know you are an intelligent woman. One whom should be able to see that the claim was so extremely unlikely that it was not worth mentioning, but you wanted it to be true, right? So you cast aside your logic and let your fingers type away in a misguided hope that maybe you could keep your belief untarnished that the left are the good guys.
On a side note, your “center of the universe” remark was obviously humor (good humor at that) and needed no explanation. Clever how you threw that in to try and provide evidence that your other post was misinterpreted.
It’s called…
Adding a puzzle to the piece, instead of adding a piece to the puzzle…
There used to be a FAKE medium sized Red Heeler type dog that sat just inside in the storefront window next to the entrance door…
The very first time I happened to walk my overconfident new unaltered male husky along the sidewalk passed it, he aggressively charged right up to to that fake dog, (which was just sitting timidly in the window),with his back fur and his upper lips all raised up, and gave it a good long thorough sniffing with his chest puffed out, ready and rarin’ to battle…!!!
But, when he finally realized that the dog was a fake, he was was actually so embarrassed and mortified that he had fallen for such an obvious imposter, that he actually tried to save face by nonchalantly playing it off, and acting as if it never happened, and that, of course, he had known all along that it was a fake dog…
He never forgot that…
Every time I walked him past it from then on, which was a lot, he wouldn’t even so much as give that fake dog the side eye, and always lol towards the street…
And if you don’t think that dogs can be terribly embarrassed by something so innocuous, he once passed wind towards me as we sat an the couch, and I reactively admonished him with nothing just by saying his name with a startled retreating voice, and he was so embarrassed that he went and hid behind the couch until I went and kindly and reassuringly coaxed him out from behind it…
And he never, ever, did that again, either…
I sure miss him…
Everyone is entitled to an opinion.
Every one of over eight billion of us.
Clearly Kym’s role here is as commenter, not as site owner/admin/moderator.
BTW, I made a long post yesterday backing up my claim that political violence is far more likely on the left, but it was marked as spam for some reason. This time I will just post the latest poll from YouGov showing liberals are far more likely to think political violence is acceptable. Not that we can’t already see this with our own eyes.
“Lies, damn lies, and statistics”~Attributed to Mark Twain.
….at least both sides still apparently think political assassination is horrific??
lolz Oh please.
That does not appear to be the case based on the current social media stream of memes coming out of the liberal camp, which are laughing, celebrating, throwing his faith under the bus, and twisting his own words to blame Charlie for being assassinated.
Even his own vigil post here was polluted with that trash.
Here is one take on the ” raised conservative” = bad, viewpoint
…..(as if we are unaware how predominantly red Utah is, or that 22-year-olds make their own decisions and allegiances.
Use your brain, people! (looks AI-generated, credited to Johnny D Baptist)
“A good family raises a good son… until college.
His father,a law abiding citizen. His mother, a law abiding citizen. Military heritage, Republican roots, a moral and dependable household where “you try to help everyone you can” isn’t just a slogan; it’s the family crest. They taught honor, sacrifice, and faith.
And now that same father has to turn in his own son, knowing the President and Governor are already calling for the death penalty.
Even if you agree with their call, it’s painful to think about the heavy burden on that father’s heart. Sickening. Heartbreaking.
So what happened? Simple. One year of college.
That’s it.
Twelve months of professors dripping morally bankrupt godless ideology like an IV bag.
And suddenly this young man thinks he’s a revolutionary hero. He trades his family values for communist T-shirts. He hangs out in Antifa chat rooms. He lectures his parents at dinner about “fascists,” and then—because extra credit matters—he engraves Antifa slogans on his bullet casings. Because nothing says “higher education” like custom ammo.
Meanwhile, Dad is left holding the heaviest decision of his life….. “
…”People on both sides are searching for ways to blame the other side for the assassination.”…
-Kym Kemp-
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That’s a divisive sounding statement…
Which/whose “side” are you on…???
Are you on the side of the assassin, Tyler Robinson, or are you on the side of the victim, Charlie Kirk…???
Or are you doing the tired old Democrat/Left vs the Republican/Right, trope, yet again…???
Also, is that, just an admission, just an accusation, and,/or, just
an excuse…???
By the way…
The whole idea you are spreading of a, “both sides”, “thing”, is yet another logical fallacy, known as “The false dilemma”, “a false dichotomy”, and/or false binary…
There are not, “TWO SIDES”, NOR, are there, “ONLY TWO SIDES”, Kym…
PEOPLE ARENT JUST EITHER “LEFT” OR RIGHT”…!!!
People aren’t just EITHER, on the side of “the assassins”, OR, on the side of, “the victims”…
Just the same as people aren’t JUST EITHER “BLACK OR WHITE”…
Your argument falsely suggests that only two possibilities exist, being the side of the “left”, OR, being on the side of the “right”…
And/or your argument falsely suggests that every is EITHER on side “of the assassin”, OR, that they are on “the side of the victim”, even though THAT DOES NOT include everyone…
But, boiling it down, maybe,
“People on both sides are searching for ways to blame the other side for the assassination.”
(-KK-)
…is just another way of saying/really means….
Yeah, I’m doing it, BUT I’M COOL, because ALL the kids are doing it these days…”
…???
No link?
https://www.newsweek.com/groyper-charlie-kirk-shooting-nick-fuentes-2129114 or here https://www.reuters.com/world/us/accused-sniper-jailed-charlie-kirk-killing-awaits-formal-charges-utah-2025-09-13/
The Reuters link sucks and shifts to an entirely different article after 2 seconds… Useless….
The Newsweek link makes no such connection, IMO…
Doesn’t even hint of what you say it hints of, AFAIAC..
Please cut and paste the text that backs your claim, please…
Im not seeing it…
I found nothing of the sort in the Newsweek link…
“For one thing I or no one on the left I know of said MAGA killed Kirk. Hegseth did say that, which is the real bullshit.”
-Kris-
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Your Newsweek link doesn’t even ever mention Tyler Robinson by name…
So, it definitely doesn’t, realistically, directly or even indirectly link Tyler Robinson to Nick Fuentes in any way, whatsoever…
Please cut and paste the text you allege makes any connection whatsoever between Tyler Robinson and Nick Fuentes…
Because, I’m not seeing anything of the sort, at all…
The Reuters link doesn’t work for me, so if there is a connection there, please cut and paste that as well…
Thank you…
Kris doesn’t recall any liberals accusing Tyler Robinson of being MAGA…
Just wondering where the Liberal notion that Tyler Robinson was MAGA, may have actually originated, because, unlike “Kris”, I do definitely recall it…
Yeah, the Groyper War. Which is something I didn’t know. Sounds like the civil war some folks are threatening was already happening, just not the way they thought was, or who.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groypers#Groyper_War
They dont know what they are talking about. He has a trans lover he lives with.Came out today.
He lived in a six-bedroom house as was going to trade school most likely with six other people. The person in question hasn’t said they were trans. Only an “anonymous” fox news source. I’ll wait…
“I don’t want to speak too soon but you might want to check out…” “[Lance Twiggs, Tyler Robinson’s transgender partner..]”
“Some major news organizations are hinting that the evidence is leading to the shooter being his follower.”
-Kym Kemp-/-New York Post-
There, fixed it for you…
The roommate who went to the law enforcement surrounding text messages and is working with them? The guy who led the police to evidence? 🤔 Wild again I’ll wait
Surrounding text messages…??
Text messages like what…???
“Hey, Twiggs, I need you to pick up the rifle, I left it at the University next to the tree that I carved our initials on, TR https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/svg/1f90d.svg LT”
“I might be late for dinner…”
“Don’t wait up…”
“XOXoWoXOX”
Does he appear to be a righty to you, or does he seem to be more of a lefty…???
Bingo
“It is kind of stunning that you read the news I produce without believing that I use facts.”
-Kym Kemp-
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Kym Kemp
21 days ago
Reply to Lee Schmortz
”I don’t want to speak too soon but you might want to check out Nick Fuentes, an even further right spokesperson, who thought Kirk wasn’t right enough. Some major news organizations are hinting that the evidence is leading to the shooter being his follower.”
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“It is kind of stunning that you read the news I produce without believing that I use facts.”…
I guess I just don’t know the difference between “facts” and “hinting”, or the difference between “doctors” and “doctor”…
“Thoroughly discredited conspiracy theory.”
It’s good to be able to disagree w somebody’s opinion and yet respect their opinion. It shows intelligence. Which we have such a short supply if these days! And we need it now more than ever. Reasonable and intelligent people CAN come to different conclusions. It’s not math or science with only one logical answer. I hope we can grasp this much at least from the murder….
Has anyone else considered the fact that Tyler Robbinson was affiliated with LDS church. A church that has 91 new child sexual abuse lawsuits as of last year which highlights a serious concern about child safety and institutional accountability. The church failed to report abuse and protected perpetrators on numerous occasions. Why do churches cover these things up its vile? Charlie Kirk was outspoken against child sexual abuse and for the release of the Epstein files. It just something to consider. Mormon abuse civil lawsuits California – FLOODLIT
Mormon Church (LDS) Sexual Abuse Lawsuit September 2025 – Select Justice
Some of these Mormon sects are truly evil I can’t even read the full article because I’m going to vomit Racist cult leaders accused of ritualistic sex abuse of children in new lawsuit
You might be stretching to make him a revolutionary hero for the secular culture.
if you have proof he was abused, then that changes things, but I don’t think that’s the case.
”prove me wrong”
and how was Charlie a Morman?
I never read anything about that.
the shooter was just a turncoat to his ancestry like so many other white people before him.
he probably felt bad because his dad was a cop due to the social pressure in response to the George Floyd fentanyl movement.
its not popular in most circles to be a white male if you haven’t noticed.
taking a stand for different types of people is the easiest way to get back into the fold.
or just go right wing like I did and find the people that don’t blame you for all of history.
From the information we have now this does appear to be a case of violence committed by someone with a conservative background against a prominent conservative influencer, which complicates simplistic narratives about political violence. As much as you may have wanted this to fit one narrative it simply does not.
You’re wanting him to be a conservative real time when he was only raised conservative in his childhood.
he was a expat to his conservative genealogy like so many liberals before him
That’s a stretch while reaching…
Tyler Robinson was a registered Independent, not a Conservative…
So much for your theory…
Update/correction:
Although I seem to recall an reference to Tyler Robinson being a registered Independent at one time,
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fact-check-tyler-robinson-suspect-062825046.html
Is Tyler Robinson, the suspect in custody for the shooting of Charlie Kirk, a Republican? No, that’s not true: Voter registration records in Utah show he chose to vote neither as a Democrat nor as a Republican. He registered as “Unaffiliated.”
He is most recently registered to vote as “unaffiliated”Is Tyler Robinson, the suspect in custody for the shooting of Charlie Kirk, a Republican? No, that’s not true: Voter registration records in Utah show he chose to vote neither as a Democrat nor as a Republican. He registered as “Unaffiliated.”…
Robinson’s grandmother, Debbie Robinson, 69, told the Daily Mail that Tyler Robinson was also raised in a staunchly Republican home.
“My son, his dad, is a Republican for Trump,” Debbie Robinson said. “. . . Most of my family members are Republican. I don’t know any single one who’s a Democrat. I’m so confused.”
She also said her grandson, who works in St. George, never spoke about politics with her. She insisted suspicion about Tyler must be a case of “mistaken identity or something.”
” After his father recognized him from photos released by the FBI and confronted him, the son allegedly said he’d rather kill himself than be arrested.”
Charlie Kirk’s Alleged Assassin Was Raised Mormon & Republican, but Registered as ‘Unaffiliated’
I was raised in a STRICTLY DEMOCRAT “home”
I’m a registered Republican now…
I’ll trust the voter rolls
Yeah man! Too much LDS can mess up your head for sure
I’m pointing out the only issue where I believe Charlie Kirk diverged from the current administration: pedophilia. He did not endorse or support it, and that is probably the only fundamental belief we share.
That said, the Mormon Church has a tragic and disturbing history of covering up cases of pedophilia and abuse against women and girls. I’m highlighting a possible ideological split between the shooter and Charlie Kirk. It’s well documented how damaging some of these institutions have been.
It’s possible the shooter believed he was defending the values of his community values that Kirk had publicly criticized. That’s all I’m trying to say. What I am pointing out is something worth considering. Please as a man and one who claims to care about these issues consider it.
Look even our community has suffered at the hand of religious hiding and covering up abuse locally. The following article emphasizes that abuse locally wasn’t isolated it was systemic and widespread, affecting families and communities across Northern California.
It happens and the systemic cover ups are rampant. These are pervasive issues that communities around our country face and the people protecting these assholes are radicalized.
Humboldt County was described as a “dumping ground” for clergy accused of abuse.
‘Rid me of This Troublesome Priest’
And radicalization within the Utah Mormon community isn’t a new thing.
Bombing
Deseret News archives: Singer-Swapp seige began on this day in 1988 in Marion – Deseret News
Kingston polygamist sect trafficked children, violated federal labor laws, Utah lawsuit allegesKingston polygamist sect accused of child trafficking, racketeering in Utah lawsuit
Racist cult leaders accused of ritualistic sex abuse of children in new lawsuitRacist cult leaders accused of ritualistic sex abuse of children in new lawsuit
And even some of the Church has been outspoken about Trump- From the Salt Lake Tribune
“Thou shalt not vote for Trump. These prominent Latter-day Saints view that as a command from God.He fails the “character test” spelled out in the faith’s scriptures, they argue, and is morally “unqualified” to hold the nation’s highest office.
Four prominent and politically active members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believe they know whom God would not endorse for president: Donald Trump.
The faith’s scriptures, they reason, spell out divine qualifications for public service.
“Honest men [and women] and wise men [and women] should be sought for diligently, and good men [and women] and wise men [and women] ye should observe to uphold…” it reads in Doctrine and Covenants 98. “I give unto you a commandment, that ye shall forsake all evil and cleave unto all good.”
These members — Christine Durham, a past chief justice of Utah’s Supreme Court; Brent Ward, former U.S. attorney for Utah; Richard N.W. Lambert, a retired assistant U.S. attorney for Utah; and James W. McConkie II, a civil rights attorney — declared in interviews Thursday at the Utah Capitol that Trump is not “honest, wise or good” and thus should not get Latter-day Saint support.
It is not just a general recommendation, they argued, but rather by way of “commandment.” Nor is it a partisan issue, they believe, as the foursome includes two Democrats, a Republican and an independent.
They have spelled out the case in an online petition, titled “LDS Opposed to Trump,” explaining what they believe are Trump’s lies and his actions toward others, and are hoping to help their fellow believers more clearly see that he is “unqualified” for office as established by God.
Prominent Latter-day Saints urge fellow members to vote against Trump for religious reasons
You suspect Tyler Robinson’s assassination of Charlie Kirk was a religious killing…???
A Mormon assassinating a Christian, based on Mormon “values” vs Christian “values”…???
In sort of Right vs Right Mormon vs Christian “turf war”…???
Two Rights resulted in the ensuing Wrong…???
(I guess anything’s possible but my conspiracy theory Spidey senses are starting to tingle…)
Or, are you saying that you suspect that because the Christian Charlie Kirk allegedly diverged from your perception of the current administrations support or endorsement of pedophilia, that he was consequently subsequently assassinated by Tyler Robinson because Tyler Robinson was defending Mormon pedophilia by murdering Charlie Kirk…???
That’s pretty wild…
Is that the idealogical split of which you speak…???
Did I paraphrase that incorrectly….???
Seems like just another desperate version of a liberal self defense.mechanism by a member of an as yet unmentioned religion and/or a non theist..
(Kind of like reaching while stretching…)
(It’s less about who it idealogically rules in, and more about who it idealogically rules out…)
You are bashing Trumpism, Mormonism, AND Christianity, AND Christianity in the form of Catholicism…
Bashing everyone mentioned, including Charlie Kirk, except for his anti pedophilia stance..
That’s some very outward judgement…
You don’t seem too worried about whom you might offend…
But nevermind that…
Tell me, please, Farmer, what and/or whom, is it exactly, that you are so idealogically trying to DEFEND ???
Leftism…???
Your preferred religion…???
Non theism..???
What is your idealogical or religious stance, or lack thereof, if you don’t mind me asking, so we know just exactly where it is that you’re coming from, figuratively speaking of course,, perspective wise…???
I have a few hunches, but, hey, just for fun, let’s hear it from the horse’s mouth, just for accuracy’s sake…
I tried to post earlier
“Thou shalt not vote for Trump. These prominent Latter-day Saints view that as a command from God.He fails the “character test” spelled out in the faith’s scriptures, they argue, and is morally “unqualified” to hold the nation’s highest office.”Prominent Latter-day Saints urge fellow members to vote against Trump for religious reasons
Tyler Robinson, raised in a conservative Mormon household, reportedly became a regular poster on far-right media platforms and expressed admiration for Nick Fuentes and the Groyper movement a faction known for its white nationalist, antisemitic, and anti-LGBTQ views. His online activity suggests he may have viewed Charlie Kirk as a “gatekeeper” of establishment conservatism, too moderate for the radical ideals he had come to embrace.
This context helps explain how Robinson, a Trump supporter from a deeply religious background, could turn against a fellow conservative figure like Charlie Kirk. The assassination appears to be less about left-versus-right politics and more about a fracture within the far-right itself. Kirk’s vocal opposition to child abuse and his support for transparency around the Epstein files may have clashed with Robinson’s internalized defense of his community, especially if he saw Kirk’s stance as a betrayal of Mormon values or conservative purity.
I don’t bash religion. But I will wholeheartedly bash and fight any religious institution that engages in or covers up child abuse. That’s unforgivable. Why wouldn’t I? What kind of person sees protecting children as controversial? And if you see calling it out as a threat, maybe it’s because deep down you know it is a threat to the power structures that have enabled silence, secrecy, and suffering for far too long. Fuck Pedos and anyone who supports them
Is that offensive to you?
What’s offensive is your suggestion that it isn’t…
You say plenty of nasty shit about others …
And judge others…
My point is, while your at it, just to be fair, why don’t you try telling us a whole lot more about yourself…
And how YOU judge YOU…???
And let us judge for ourselves, you too…
Facts and truth, man. It’s funny to me how, when you point out that someone did or said something they actually did or said, it’s somehow offensive to the person who said and did it.
I didn’t shoot anyone, my morals aren’t under scrutiny here. My religious community hasn’t harmed anyone or covered up abuse.
Everything I’ve said has happened, and it’s true. And you are offended by the truth? I understand that this might contradict yourself image or the image you have about these communities but if you don’t face it, it doesn’t change. Don’t you want it to change? You should. Don’t be loyal to shitty beliefs
What, you can dish it out, but can’t take it…???
What kind of character is that…???
You think it’s AOK to scrutinize others along with their religions, but for some reason, you hypocritically object to someone likewise scrutinizing you along with your religion, or lack thereof…???
Double standard much…???
“My religious community hasn’t harmed anyone or covered up abuse.”
-Farmer-
And whom might that be…
Do tell…
“Angels Anonymous”…???
Link please, evidence please…
Just like you, “I’ll be the judge of that”…
What is it with people who deflect and refuse to take accountability for the culture they themselves create? We have a gun violence problem. We’ve witnessed children massacred in this country for decades, with little to no policy change and you’re surprised this happened?
We recently had another school shooting in Denver, committed by a white male conservative with ties to white nationalist groups and you’re surprised. When you raise your children to believe that guns are the solution to their problems, it’s tragic.
Stop glorifying guns and war, man. People one hand are staying stop the violence and then advocating for civil war. This is gross https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTXcaTzlvhQwqOJN-dpKpLLmQOAljJAkrgvxg&s
Gee. All of a sudden ‘free speech’ is sacred ground. Even when a man (like Charlie Kirk) preaches hate. But speak about pro-Palestinian views, and those folks are thrown out of school, or the country! They are arrested, and persecuted.
Hypocrisy, maybe??!!!
No maybe about it.
Aren’t you a part of the “back to the festival” community that made a living for decades trafficking drugs across America?
Just guessing.
hypocrisy is perhaps endemic to all cultures, and the biggest hypocrites are often the accusers.
It doesn’t appear that Charlie Kirk was much of a hypocrite judging from his wifes latest testimony
What’s with the noticably sloped back frontal bone..??
Associated frontal lobe problems..???
What do you know..??
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6899405/
The slant of the forehead as a craniofacial feature of impulsiveness
Abstract
Objective:
Impulsiveness has been the subject of much research, but little is known about the possible relationship between craniofacial anatomy and impulsiveness. The present study was designed to investigate the relationship between one aspect of craniofacial structure (the angle of inclination of the forehead) and impulsiveness.
Results:
High positive concordance was found between forehead inclination and 14 out of the 15 impulsiveness factors studied.
Conclusions:
The angle of inclination of the forehead was significantly associated with self-reported impulsiveness in this sample of traffic violators.
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My “hunch” was that as far as angle of inclination of the forehead being associated with doing something impulsive, this guy was SOOooo inclined…
I really think you’re on to something! Please tell us much much more!!
No problem…
Lots less likey to get clotheslined, too..
An evolutionary advantage…
Very uplifting, but can also bring one down…
The clothesline doesn’t strand a chance…
I’ve tried to explain it, ànd yet, it keeps going over their heads…
The other evolutionary advantage is that it’s good for deflecting blows…
Think ricochet…
It goes way back….
And when the bar gets lowered, they’re the ones to call….
That study was done on traffic violaters. Tyler was not a traffic violater.
Have you seen his car…???
With a forehead sloped like that it’s no wonder he flew under the radar…
“Tyler was not a traffic violater.”
-Steven-
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Yep…
It’s that frontal bone slant thing again…
Nice consistent “45”, everywhere you go…
…and there’s no stopping you…!!!
😁 🤣 😂 😅 😆 🤭
I don’t put much stock in phrenology. I don’t think we’ll find the real answers until we examine the entrails of a sacrificial goat.
First laughter of a dark day. Thank you. Will probably snort on and off for at least five minutes.
I know it, right…???
A real knee slapper…
My right patella will never be the same…
Or not.
Sorry Zipline, I already spilled the beans abou how the excessive frontal bone inclination puts clotheslines at a distinct disadvantage…
The cats out of the bag…
I’m not sure how that might affect Ziplines, but I think you’ll be fine…
Oh yeah, and speaking of disadvantages, can you imagine how difficult it must be for young dudes in Utah to find a girlfriend that isn’t ALREADY spoken for…???
here we go again with the Tepublician party trotting out its favorite game tactic: gaslighting. If you value free speech, release the Epstein files. Also Hate speech and free speech aren’t the same things, and that guy was a peddler of hate speech.
Hate speech isn’t speech you don’t agree with.
Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences.
So, by “consequences,” do you mean social backlash… or something as final as assassination? Because if it’s the latter, that’s not consequences — that’s tyranny.
Charlie was an unelected voice of the “party.” He was instrumental in getting the young vote turned around, who many voted for today’s troubles that we are experiencing. Lots of Boo-hoos for him.
All the while, there was no republican tears for Melissa Hortman, the house rep in Minnesota who, by the way, was an elected official, tragically shot and killed on Trump’s birthday.
So yeah, there is an inconsistency in what people hold dear and adhere to in their beliefs. One death is too many unless, it seems, it is an evangelical nutjob who murders a democrat. That is OK, right?
It’s time for this nation to bring common sense into the gun picture. Wackos are evident on both sides of the aisle, and these killings have to stop.
RIP Charlie Kirk, and all of the rest who have died senselessly from the bullets of mainly young men with crazed ambitions to kill.
Well it’s true Trump barely mentioned Hortman’s death. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/09/11/donald-trump-charlie-kirk-melissa-hortman/86089962007/
Of course conflating Trump’s behavior with “no republican tears” is a standard rhetoric here even if not true. “On Wednesday, the entire House of Representatives—both Democrats and Republicans – stood united to unanimously pass a resolution condemning the politically motivated violence against Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman, her husband Mark, and Senator John Hoff and his wife Yvette. We spoke in one voice to unequivocally denounce acts of political violence.”
“Minnesota Senate GOP Leader Mark Johnson
My heart is broken over the events that unfolded overnight and the loss of life, security, and peace that we are all feeling right now. Senate Republicans are unified in our condemnation of this brazen act of violence.”
Compare examples of the outpouring of personal attacks on Hortman in justifying her murder , which surely do exist somewhere, with the level of personal attacks on Kirk justifying his, on here. The total imbalance should make commenters engage in a little self examination of their own rhetoric but apparently not.
https://mccollum.house.gov/media/statements-record/denouncing-political-violence-and-mourning-assassination-melissa-and-mark
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/09/11/donald-trump-charlie-kirk-melissa-hortman/86089962007/
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/06/14/reactions-to-killing-of-house-dfl-leader-hortman
Yes. The local democratic party showed no remorse. They just stated they were abhorred by his opinions. They just cant be anything other than hateful.
More hypocrites who do ZILCH. Did the Republican party provide security to Charlie? No. Did they stop the Butler shooter? No. Now we learn that Kirks assassin lived with a tranz. What is the Republican party doing about these sexually confused Assassins of Hate? Nothing.
I quit the R because they care more about Israel than America. Independent voter now.
Stop violence against free speech and religious and political expression! RICO on Soros and all funders of leftwing mayhem.
Here you go. Enjoy yourselves.
Thoughts on speech: Few can stand to sit with their own thoughts (for simplicity’s sake we’ll just call em that) meditation for the many is some form of self-flagellation, but they remain ever ready to share those thoughts with you.
isn’t that awesome!
https://youtu.be/aWGzr-kOoQY
A variation of argumentum ad ignorantiam was an operational foundation of Kirk’s ‘Prove Me Wrong’ stagecraft. It was brilliant, a 30+ yr old cultural icon with enough documented stances he didn’t need to make an on-campus pitch. Instead, college students — more or less big kids ~10 yrs his junior — were to venture forth to challenge his stances. Kirk, years ago plucked from going to college, by a middle-aged Tea Party activist, was finally getting some college time.
Andres Breivek, far-right Norwegian mass murderer. The whackjob suggested in his manifesto that “Cultural Marxism” (a rightwing conspiracy theory) underpinned political correctness. When the US center and left use the term “multiculturalism”, they mean exactly that. When elite right backers of Turning Point USA employ the term, their use traces to Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory.
Kirk-on-tour was alt-lite-roadshow, and his employer Turning Point USA was and remains supported by powerful rightwing players. Theirs is a big tent, ranging from Supreme Court-whisperers on down to the Nick Fuentes types and beyond. In the era of Trump 1.0 into 2.0, Turning Point USA became a huge culture-war operation in sync with the whisperer section of the tent. A youth recruitment operation. Paul Weyrich (read up on him) would be proud.
It can be said the right’s first effort to remain relevant, the Reagan through W. Bush years, didn’t work out so well; didn’t result in truly long-term power. So, Plan B: go darkside, wage culture war, psyops included. Anything to “save Western Civilization”. In Trump, the right got their General, their frontman. A spicy character devoid of morals & ethics, to not say masses but seduce them. Next step will be the likes of Vance, Rubio, et al. People slick enough but who actually bent the knee, who converted, who vow loyalty to a cause.
“The great replacement strategy, which is well underway every single day in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with something different.
“They hate those of you that own land and have guns and believe in a better country, and they have a plan to try and get rid of you.”
“You believe in God, country, family, faith, and freedom, and they won’t stop until you and your children and your children’s children are eliminated.”
— Charlie Kirk, https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-pushes-great-replacement-conspiracy-they-wont-stop-until-you-and-your
Yikes. This comment thread. Sigh. Look away.
so it’s been brought up many times by liberals that the shooter was raised in a conservative republican family.
now I am reading in a few sources that the shooter was living with a transgendered partner M2F, who is currently cooperating with the FBI.
we’ll see what info comes out
Well, if we go by what we are reading, the shooter was a Groyper (a follower/fanboy of Nick Fuentes). The Fuentes/Groypers had a beef against Kirk. There are (well were) Groyper wars declared against Kirk.
That would explain some of the edgelord crap the shooter allegedly engraved in the bullet casings.
It would also explain the folks, like Trump and others who were screaming “This is War!!!!” against the “radical left” have gone quiet or certainly softening their tone, like Nancy Mace did. I knew something was up when there was a little radio silence after the arrest of Robinson.
Holy cow, folks, can’t we just wait for the facts to come out? Speculation…leaks…rumors…emotional reactions based on ideology…it’s friggin’ exhausting.
What about facts? What about objectivity?
The suspect is alive and in custody. He’s no doubt being interviewed intensively (unless he’s choosing to remain silent). In any event, there will be either a guilty plea or a trial. Some actual facts are going to come out in the legal process.
As a very liberal Democrat, I may not like what the truth turns out to be, but I still want the truth. Truth is truth.
Some of the people on this thread are very conservative Republicans, but I would hope you want the truth as well, even if it turns out to be something you don’t like. We should all want the objective truth, even if it doesn’t confirm our biases. Truth is truth.
Same with the Epstein files. Release the files! If prominent Democrats like Bill Clinton are in there, so be it! If they were up to no good, they deserve to be exposed. I don’t care who they are. Republicans should feel the same way. If Donald Trump or other prominent Republicans are in those files, if they did wrong, they deserve to be exposed.
Let’s have some patience. Let’s prioritize objective, provable facts.
Well said. I wish I had thought before talking about a theory.
I find it hilarious that a teacher in redding was fired for using his freedom of speech,about kirk.so much for freedom of speech in Northern California.
The fired teacher still has their freedom of speech rights. Nothing was taken away. This person can continue to spew all they want. However, when one hires on, there is often time “employee code of conduct” requirements tied onto that position, that extends beyond normal work hours. Many companies, schools, businesses, organizations, etc.; strive to maintain and reflect a positive public image. Employees spewing hate damages the reputation of these companies / organizations; so they are cut loose to do on their own as they please. Actions have consequences.
Doesn’t “the science” start by testing a hypothesis? A theory?
i hypothesize the same is true with social science, political science.
Ones hypothesis about the motives for a social event do in a way reveal the assumptions of the inquiring mind.
that’s just life.
I agree with what Scottie Ann wrote in the most part, yet it turns out it’s very complicated to get people out of their tribal camps with facts, especially in a era that has popularized and legitimized “subjective truth” as a barometer for right and wrong.
Please, keep talking about your theories…
I’ve learned the most from them…
Is this the same Republican party that was just in the news this morning because they want the ability to revoke passports for U.S. citizens who express views they don’t like?
oh this POS? common sense people!~
You don’t go onstage and say:”The pronouns are was/were… if you talk sh*t, you get banged”…about a recently assassinated American citizen who is being mourned by tens of millions globally and then expect Homeland Security to roll out a welcome mat!
Landau had already warned visa holders soon after the assassination, “In light of yesterday’s horrific assassination of a leading political figure, I want to underscore that foreigners who glorify violence and hatred are not welcome visitors to our country. I have been disgusted to see some on social media praising, rationalizing, or making light of the event, and have directed our consular officials to undertake appropriate action.
Please feel free to bring such comments by foreigners to my attention so that the @StateDept can protect the American people.”
President Donald J Trump was mentioned three times in this article and comment section. Your President thanks you for the clicks and helping to spread his message!
Guess the fuentas/groiper theory is falling flat?
oh well,
into the dustbin it goes!