Avelo Airlines to Depart California After Deportation Flight Backlash

[Photo by Joe Scarnic iGetty Images for Avelo Air]
Mixed Reactions in Humboldt as Budget Carrier Cites Business Struggles, Not Politics
Avelo Airlines will end service to the California Redwood Coast–Humboldt County Airport (ACV) and exit the entire West Coast market by the end of 2025. The decision comes just months after public outcry over the airline’s contract with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to operate deportation flights—but Avelo maintains the move is financial, not political.
The airline’s last flight out of Humboldt is scheduled for December 2, according to a July 14 press release from the County of Humboldt. The airline will also close its base at Hollywood Burbank Airport, eliminating routes across California, including those from Sonoma County and Redding.
Courtney Goff, a spokesperson for Avelo, wrote in a statement to the county that “there is rarely one singular reason why decisions like this are made,” but emphasized that “our West Coast operations have not produced the results necessary to continue our presence there.”
Deportation Flight Contract Ignites Boycott Campaign
In April, Avelo revealed that it had signed a contract to operate deportation flights through ICE Air, based in Mesa, Arizona. Flights under the contract began on May 12. The backlash was swift.
A coalition of advocacy groups launched StopAvelo.org, urging travelers, cities, and communities to boycott the airline. “Avelo Airlines is partnering with ICE to run deportation flights that violate due process rights,” the website states. “Cities that fund Avelo—even indirectly—are supporting these inhumane and illegal operations.”
Local organizations including Humboldt Democracy Connections and the North Coast chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America joined the call. Banners reading “Avelo Flies 4 ICE” appeared on overpasses along U.S. Highway 101. At a packed Eureka City Council meeting on July 9, more than a dozen* speakers urged the city to sever ties with the airline.
Councilmember Kati Moulton said continuing to use Avelo was “not only morally irresponsible, but economically irresponsible as well,” according to an article by Lost Coast Outpost, adding, “The campaign of terror is being waged against the innocent Latino community.” The council voted unanimously to prohibit city staff from using Avelo for official travel.
Mayor Kim Bergel acknowledged the boycott might not financially damage the airline but said, “I think it makes a huge difference to our community—a huge difference.”
Ridership Data Shows No Clear Boycott Impact

ACV Stats for Avelo and United flights highlighting passenger counts leaving (enplanement) and landing (deplanement) at ACV by airline, and the percentage of seats filled. [Data from Humboldt County compiled by Lisa Music]
In April 2025—the month the deportation contract was announced—Avelo’s load factor (the percentage of seats filled) hit 90%, its highest of the year. While it dipped slightly in May to 84%, it rose again to 88% in June. United Airlines, the only other carrier at ACV, had slightly lower load factors in that same period.
This suggests that, while the boycott may have influenced public discourse and local politics, it did not significantly depress demand for Avelo’s flights in and out of Humboldt County.
Local Family Faces Steep Costs After Service Ends
Doug Culbert of Fortuna says his family is among those who will be directly impacted. His wife Jennifer, who has stage four breast cancer, receives treatment every few months at City of Hope in Southern California. After a previous provider stopped covering travel, Avelo’s low-cost flights became their most viable option.
“We were getting round-trip tickets for 50 bucks when they first started out,” Doug said in an interview. “Both of us flying for $100.” Though the promotional prices are no longer available, the Culberts usually pay between $250 to $350 for the two to fly from Arcata to Burbank. United tickets for the same trip are around $950, Doug said—an average increase of over $600 per visit.
He explained that they can’t wait for last-minute deals or adjust their plans to chase lower prices. Jennifer’s appointments are scheduled well in advance, so the family has to book flights that match her medical schedule.
The family estimates their annual travel expenses will rise by $2,400 to $3,000 once Avelo pulls out.
“I totally support people’s right to boycott,” Doug said, “but they don’t realize that people do have needs for low-budget flights. You’ve got to realize… it’s not just Avelo that you’re affecting, you’re affecting people like Jennifer and me.”
Toll on Humboldt County: Connectivity, Costs, and Uncertainty
Avelo’s departure carries implications not just for individual travelers but for Humboldt County’s overall connectivity and economic vitality.
When Avelo launched service to Humboldt in 2021, it opened up a long-missing direct route to Burbank—connecting the North Coast to Southern California without layovers in San Francisco or Denver. It also briefly offered a Las Vegas route. These flights attracted tourists, facilitated easier business travel, and provided locals with affordable options.
In a 2023 press release, then-County Aviation Director Cody Roggatz noted that Avelo’s Burbank route had been one of its “strongest performers,” and that the airport is seeing record passenger numbers. “We appreciate Avelo’s partnership and investment in our community,” he said.
But with Avelo gone, those connections disappear. According to ACV records, in the last eighteen months, Avelo has filled 77,245 seats flying, into and out of, Humboldt County. For the near future, United remains the only airline serving Humboldt. The major U.S. carrier currently accounts for just over 75% of passengers at ACV; however, with Avelo’s departure, fewer routes and less competition are expected to drive up prices—impacting families, government budgets, and tourism alike.
Second District Supervisor Michelle Bushnell acknowledged the concern, saying the County is prioritizing the search for a new low-cost carrier. “We are committed to ensuring access to affordable, reliable air service,” she said. However, no replacement has been announced.
A Complex Exit with Moral Weight
In the end, Avelo’s departure lands at the intersection of economics, ethics, and access.
For those behind the boycott, the airline’s exit is seen as a consequence of public pressure and a reaffirmation of local values. “They took the ICE contract out of desperation—and now it’s backfiring,” said Matthew Boulay of the Stop Avelo Coalition in an interview with KLCC. “Passengers and cities want nothing to do with them.” Critics of Avelo’s deportation flights argued the flights were incompatible with a humane and just community.
Others, like Doug Culbert, say the fallout is painfully real. “I understand people have strong political beliefs,” he said, emphasizing that when people campaign to remove budget options like this, they may not realize how deeply it affects those who rely on affordable air travel for essential needs like medical care.
For Humboldt County, Avelo’s final flight in December will mark more than just the end of a route. It will close a chapter in the region’s efforts to connect—and confront—what it means to fly ethically and affordably in a deeply divided time.
Note: This article was edited after publication for clarity.
*Note: This article was edited after publication to correct the number of speakers at the Eureka City Council meeting to over a dozen commenters (17) instead of the previously printed “over two dozen.” Our apologies for the error.
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Nice going Bergel…
Watch out for this person…
I hope someone with some vision gets elected, but I doubt it will happen in the County of Bohn, Bushnell and Wilson…
I certainly would not open a business in Humboldt…
Nobody makes any money flying empty planes.
Don’t use Bohn, Bushnell and Wilson in the same sentence.
Nobody in their right mind would open a business in Humboldt until they are welcomed a little more warmly. The marijuana economy is dead and will no longer be a viable source of graft and corruption. It was fun while it lasted!
Humboldt county paid half a million dollars to fly empty airplanes.
I am sincerely going to miss all those protesters with their hastily made cardboard signs and well choregraphed antics. It was exciting to see them having so much fun. Plus, It gave them something to do and gave them a sense of purpose. They will have to gather in the local coffee shop to see if they can come up with a new cause.
I hope that Trump will back off on deporting the more innocent illegal aliens. He said the other day that employers that are willing to vouch for them may be able to keep them here. However, The Bad Hombres have to go! https://nypost.com/2025/07/04/us-news/trump-pitches-plan-allowing-farmers-to-vouch-for-illegal-immigrant-workers-facing-deportation/
Innocent illegal aliens. Dumbest statement ever.
Read carefully… MORE innocent. More being the modifier. MORE innocent than rapists and murderers.
Running a business in Humboldt now is like owning a boat. Or should I say B.O.A.T. as in Bring Over Another Thou$and. It’s a money drain for many people who likely would thrive somewhere else, where there are more welcoming individuals, more of them, and more with disposable income. There’s a number of folks that got their start here (re: Yakima racks) and moved on because growth was better accommodated somewhere else. Unless, of course, you’re part of the small group that has monopolized a certain segment and keeps the others out.
The New York Post… Phony News for everyone!
Trump is a liar, why would you believe him?
Bohn, Bushnell and Wilson… A pair of Deuces with a Joker for a kick…
Idiots in office, crooks occupying every Admin Desk in the County, rampant graft and bad cops…
Hell, what’s not to like?
As I stated before, in Humboldt County nobody wants you there, and the “Humboldt Attitude” prevents all progress or any egress towards evolution or progress…
Good luck catching a flight out, and it’s a 6 hour drive to SFO, if you want to go to Keauhou for some culture…
Hawaii is the best example of what not to do, and Humboldt is a close second…
I cited the New York Post because it is the only news source accepted in Humboldt. However, it is widely reported.
I only go to Hiwaii for the ocean. I’m in the north coast because I was here first…
Please provide evidence to support your biased opinion about President Trump lying because he does not lie.
Sorry but that “he does not lie” does not fly, what I see
is he lies, he lies and then he lies. Amazingly prolific liar and extremely consistent.
One fact checker group wrote a book on his generously applied prevarications, fact checked by the Washington Post.
“In perilous times, facts, expertise, and truth are indispensable. President Trump’s flagrant disregard for the truth and his self-aggrandizing exaggerations, specious misstatements, and bald-faced lies have been rigorously documented and debunked since the first day of his presidency by The Washington Post’s Fact Checker staff.”
I asked Permanently on Monitoring for an answer to support their post. All you did was ramble on with more BS and zero proof to support your biased opinion.
Sir, you clearly stated “he does not lie.”
Washington Post’s Fact Checkers researched in depth
concluding that he (DTJ) is a prolific liar.
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It must be so frustrating for Lisa to have put so much effort into writing this only to have the very first comment come from someone who obviously didn’t read past the headline.
“It must be so frustrating for Lisa to have put so much effort into writing this…”…
…”…only to have the very first comment come from someone who obviously didn’t read past the headline.”
-DTJ-
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“It must be so frustrating for Lisa to have put so much effort into writing this…”
…only to have the seventh comment come from someone so laser focused and extraordinarily attentive that they can’t differentiate between the eighth paragraph, (where Mayor Kim Bergel’s was first mentioned), and, “the headline”, (where Bergel’s name wasn’t even mentioned, AT ALL)…
You cant make this stuff up, folks….
A condescending commenter, critically calling out another commenter, for an alleged lack of full attention to details, with a totally transparent inadequate and inaccurate level of attention to details…!!!????
Priceless…!!!
It’s pretty clear from your comment, DTJ, that you didn’t even make it to reading the headline, before you started commenting…
Sounds to me like you started by reading the first comment first, and didn’t even read the headline let alone the eighth paragraph of the article…
Why am I sensing a wee bit of inattentive hypocrisy…???
Look at the chart, man… And learn to type.
The planes were departing less than 50% full…
This Airline is running into the red, even without all the politics…
Obviously, the City of Eureka had little to do with the demise of Avelo, but the City of Eureka appears to be oozing into the Bay, from poor business decisions and inept, ridiculous anti-business policy…
Eureka will become Low-Income Housing for somewhere else, or it will just cease to exist, business-wise, kind of like Garberville.
Eureka is not a place to go at all, and now you can’t fly there…
Congratulations!
You must be reading the chart wrong. The dotted lines are the capacity percentage. The purple and blue columns are the number of passengers in and out of acv per flight. Over the last 18 months, Avelo had a 77% filled seat capacity.
It’s not the best chart, even for an educated person, but you’re correct.
You mean where Bergel acknowledged that the boycott did not financially damage Avelo?
Yeah. I read that. And that was why I pointed out how silly the comment blaming Bergel for Avelo’s complete withdrawal from the West Coast is.
You said …
In a reply to ‘Permanently on Monitoring’…
“Blah blah blah…”
“…only to have the very first comment come from someone who obviously didn’t read past the headline.”
Emphasis on….
“…didn’t read past the headline.”
Yet, the first sentence from POM’s comment,
“Nice going Bergel…”
PROVES you WRONG, Jebs…
CLEARLY, POM read to at least the eighth paragraph “past the headline”, where Bergel’s name was FIRST mentioned…
How do you figure that POM “…didn’t read past the headline.”, when Bergel’s name wasn’t even mentioned until the eighth paragraph..???
… and her name wasn’t even mentioned in the headline, which you would only have not known, if YOU HAD NOT even read the headline…???
Understand…???
The City of Eureka’s decision was projected to cost them around $1000 for the next year. Not much. Looks like the boycott wasn’t anything to shake a stick at. Airlines have come and gone around here.
Tesla has found there are costs to their Sieg Heils and embracing Nazism. Avelo found the same PR reality concerning associating with the bands of “law enforcement” guys that mutter “papers please” and snatch innocent people off the streets. ICE indeed.
My great uncle Tony that fought with Patton and grampa that was in D Day are rolling. In. Their. Graves.
Article stated boycott had nothing to do with it. Would a corporate leader lie?….no that’s not possible.
and the democratic socialists of america, and the humboldt democracy connections think they , had something to do with it, what a laugh.
When the UPS man comes to my house, my dog aggressively barks at him through the door. After the delivery guy drops off the packages and leaves, my dog thinks he successfully repelled an intruder.
LOL… great metaphor. My dog loved it. 🐕
An illogical fallacy of spurious correlation.
Speaking of laughs, looks like Avelo told the blue state to kick rocks, and got the last laugh…
Avelo, just like the Democrats, have decided to ultimately prioritize catering to the illegal immigrants…
Its a bit ironic that the Democrats are now the ones that are up in arms, when someone besides them starts dancing to the tune of profiting off of the illegal immigrants…
I figure the Democrat clubs from Humboldt and the Eureka City Council caught wind of Avelo’s upcoming departure well in advance and then quickly choreographed and staged their publically broadcast political grandstanding and virtue signaling, while they could still get their licks in, before it was too late…
The coincidental timing, along with the 17 commenters all singing the same holier than thou, song and dance, (that mysteriously multiplied to being over 2 dozen), along with the totally unanimous vote, just seems a little too suspect, all in all, to me…
The Eureka City Council meeting charade was nothing more than a premeditated taxpayer funded Liberal campaign rally featuring mutual reelection self promotion…
There are PR corporations that make their profits writing near lies for companies like AVELO. Our tax dollars are spent by our Pinocchio President doing exactly that. Big money for big lies!
Most likely was that Avelo was in trouble so took an ICE contract. From a 2023 article,
“Avelo Airlines, based in Southern California, reported to FlightGlobal on November 21 that demand fell short of expectations on four routes: Raleigh-Durham (North Carolina) to Sarasota (Florida), New Haven (Connecticut) to Melbourne (Florida), and Las Vegas to Arcata (California) and Dubuque (Iowa).”
“With its cash-on-hand at one point projected to fall below $2 million in June (along with slightly more more than $6 million in short-term investments), Avelo Airlines has hired Jefferies to help it raise as much as $100 million — about $50 million for growth and the rest to shore up the company’s finances, including reducing its leverage, according to a slide deck and other materials shared with The Airline Observer.”
https://www.theairlineobserver.com/p/avelo-is-looking-to-raise-up-to-100
https://aviationa2z.com/index.php/2023/11/22/avelo-announces-exit-from-four-markets-and-suspension-of-nine-routes/
But the number of occupied seats kinda backs up the business’ statement that the boycott had nothing to do with it. If the number of seats occupied increased after the call for the boycott, then the boycott was just another “feel good” moment for these democrat party groups.
My Family fought in the civil war . D day men fought for our country . Now illegals fight in our country against our citizens. They and would be embarrassed to see our country’s destruction at the hands of the illegal invasion led by crooked democrats.
No, they pick your fruit & vegetables, care for your elderly parents, wash your dishes, pay billions in taxes for services they cannot use (social security) and overall commit fewer crimes than your president.
And cultivate weed on the largest marijuana farms in the world.
I pick my fruit. Well maybe not oranges. I wash my own dishes. I take care of myself.
And BTW, any taxes paid into Social Security by illegal immigrants become credited for benefits the minute they gain permanent legal residence. Every amnesty program created by Congress did that and every one who simply gains permanent legal status outside of those amnesties gets their records credited too. Whether the person was legally permitted to work or not, whether the employer actually paid the taxes due or not. Whether or not the employer knew (which they mostly do but they government won’t force the issue- ” Eventually, the Obama administration stopped sending these letters in 2012.”)
“”Lawfully present noncitizens of the United States who meet all eligibility requirements can qualify for Social Security benefits. This rule also applies to noncitizens authorized to work in the United States who got a Social Security number after December 2003.” Even if the worker doesn’t qualify because of legal status, his dependents can.
So when some says an illegal immigrant can’t get Social Security,that’s true. But only as long as they are still illegal.
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-are-immigrants-getting-social-security-1918611
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/29/707931619/social-security-administration-plans-to-revive-no-match-letters
Umm..,they don’t do any of those first 3 things for me. And I’m not sure they do those last 2 things either… even though you enablers keep repeating #4. Indeed my problem in believing it comes from the constant lies being told by the enablers. Like always saying “immigrant” when they should say “illegal immigrants”. The enablers have twisted so much that I don’t believe much if anything y’all say anymore. Sorry but that’s a breakdown in communication as a result of a breakdown in trust. I do not trust you any more…..
Please provide evidence to support your false and biased lie.
How many airlines have come and gone? Get their 1/2 million dollar government subsidy, burn thru that and leave. How about shut it down permanently and get rid of the airport bureaucracy? What’s the budget ?? Think of a balanced humco budget, maybe even a surplus? Buck up buckroos and enjoy your rural lifestyle. Oh, and this would align with Arcata’s supposed commitment to mother earth…those big old turbofans do spew the co2. Banning them would be so much more effective than flying a flag….
Yep. It’s simply easier to drive to Santa Rosa. Take the airporter bus to Oakland, and fly out of there. To many delays and cancelations at Arcata airport. Plus, this would put another nail in the coffin of the Cement people’s invasion into our area. Many of them are old raging grannies from Santa Barbara who won’t move to an area without an airport to go back and forth to their other home in Santa Barbara. Thus, no airport no raging grannies or other rando Cement people arriving en masse. Thanks protestors, you shot yourself in the foot again, and did Humboldt a favor by making it less accessible to the Cement Biden/Zinfandel Hieroglyphic invaders. I love it! Thanks!
Or, radical idea, don’t fly at all.
Or Medford, which is about the same drive time. After Avelo leaves SR, will have 2 airlines, while Medford has 5 and plans to expand. You won’t need a shuttle to the Bay Area.
The Santa Barbara crowd is more likely to be flying private jets than commercial airlines
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. I hope Humboldt County doesn’t pay another “fly by night” company a large signing bonus to come set up shop for a year or two only to leave again. Maybe we should just let the free market set the price of plane tickets and we can attract services based on the actual travel data and not taxpayer funded incentives.
Isn’t it funny how great “capitalism” works….as long as you have “socialism” to bail you out when you fail….
Wall Street, banks and GM say yes!
Maybe instead we can shut the airport to all commercial air travel. The Cement people will have to take a bus, hike, or bike here. This will limit the majority of the Cement people from ever considering visiting or moving here. Especially the raging grannies with their gelded husbands in tow. They need the airport so let’s limit that possibility for them. Lets do this! Keep Humboldt County , Country!
Cement People…
Yes, Cities are poisonous,
They make us selfish, hysterical, insatiable!
In Lake County we have “Generational Properties”, where nobody lives and Grandpa paid it off long ago…
The current owners show up from Fremont, San Jose, Sonoma, Woodside, Santa Cruz, on Holidays in their SUV’s and BMW’s, then disappear for another year…
Lake County, meanwhile, is run by “raging grannies” and Hell, I’m a “Gelded Husband”, for the matter of that…
The Pomo Tribe is, meanwhile, selling gas and coffee and beer and cigarettes and car washes, and they get so much free money that they don’t bother with local Government anymore…
“Second-marriage” arrangements are rampant too! He’s got a house in Sonoma, she’s got a house in Santa Rosa, so they buy a $500,000 home in Lake, and sell the Santa Rosa place for $1.3 Million…
Hmmmm, good thing those Husbands are gelded…
So uh….how many raging grannies do you meet daily on average? Is it the same or more than raging drug addicts running around? Keep Humboldt high right?
Every neighborhood everywhere in America has at least 1 drug dealer…
In Lake County, people show up with Uhaul Trailers looking for $100 Pounds…
And the reigning drug is not Meth, it is Alcohol…
Those Grannies are pulling Wine Corks at 9 in the morning…
For myself, I take my walk early so that the “Raging Grannies” are not up yet… It is not fun to be stalked by a lonely raging grannie…
I guess Caffeine in Coffee is the reigning drug. Marijuana use certainly compares significantly with Alcohol use.
Caffeine is not a drug. Coffee is a food.
Cannabis smoking is for children, but CBD/THC Gummies work better than a #3 Tylenol for pain.
Alcohol is the top of the Pyramid, year in and out.
Humans love drugs, that is for sure but I don’t drink, although I don’t care if you do…
I agree Coffee is a food, however our opinions differ over classifying Caffeine as an unscheduled drug.
And although I disagree smoking is for children, eating a brownie is probably better for you than dosing with any derived concentrate.
Certainly the drive for Intoxication rivals those drives for Food, Sex, etc..
The Lab guy is actually attempting to claim that, “Caffeine is not a drug.”..???
Caffeine is definitely a drug…
It’s a “central nervous system stimulant”…
There is a very pertinent reason why coffee is nicknamed, “Christian Crank”…
(It has to do with the caffeine…)
Let’s call “drugs” “personality modifying substances”…
Drinking Coffee is not the same as snorting Meth or Cocaine…
Caffeine can be extracted and sold as a drug, but it’s not really Dopaminergic, like Alcohol and Chocolate, sex and candy…
“Christian Crank” and served at AA meetings everywhere with cheap-ass cookies…
OK, it could be used as a drug, but it wouldn’t be exactly the same in terms of pleasurable effect…
Or just admit you were mistaken and shown that caffeine is in fact, a drug. A CNS or central nervous system stimulant, as TRG points out.
Back in the olden days Nixon asked the Consumer’s Union to review drug use in America, report and recommend.
C.U. published a book of their studies that began with coffee and ended with Heroin.
Nixon shelved the studies because decriminalization
was their recommendation- suggesting that if a drug is criminalized due to harm that drug would be alcohol.
Brilliant! Good look at LSD, also.
Every “leader” in Humboldt should be ashamed of themselves and resign. What a bunch of whack jobs. Total shitbags “running” every aspect of the county (literally running it into the ground 6 feet under). Unfortunately, instead this batch of human garbage will instead pat themselves on the back while causing more economic failures, inviting more criminal illegal to come here and spend more money doing nothing to remove the homeless from destroying the local environment.
Yep. Progressives have infested the whole public workforce and nonpartisan elected offices. The indivisibles are who lead this ineffective protest of Avelo.
One could also say that conservatives have infested half of the country and that White Nationalists are who are leading the total destruction of our once great nation. But that might be offensive to some.
Some days you make a lot of sense…
If Illegal Aliens are collected, they should be transported by the most economical method…
This deportation business did not begin with King Trump’s reign, BTW…
We have been deporting people for Generations…
Obama deported the most and not one hypocritical democrat complained about it.
Horse shit.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/democrats-furious-over-obama-administration-deportations
Spot on Alf…
Shocking. All of the communist “resist” clowns don’t want illegal alien criminals deported.
I saw a news report from Santa Rosa from 3 months ago stating they are leaving because they’re using their planes for the deportation flights not too sure, look it up on YouTube.
That was about doping some flights out of SR to Montana and Utah. Now all will be gone. Nothing to do with idiot protesters.
Helpful hint: Don’t get your news from YouTube. It can be highly suspect as far as accuracy and truthfulness. This is a more helpful one and more local to SR: https://www.northbaybusinessjournal.com/article/article/avelo-sts-deportation-sonoma-county-airport/
Avelo was already cutting flights to 4 cities, Santa Rosa being one of them, and part of signing with ICE was to offset losses. Charging a flat rate to the government is better business-wise (if immoral to some) as you’re guaranteed to be paid regardless if there are 5 people on board or every flight is full.
The initial decision to reduce flights was made more than a year before Avelo signed agreements with ICE.
Ergo, they signed with ICE to save their financial asses.
The company has been in operation since 1987, hence, they have proven to be skilled at staying in business EXCEPT they greatly underestimated the negative effects on their bottom line by choosing to get into the human deportation business. December 2 for leaving Humboldt? With any luck, they meant August 2, 2025. Headquartered in Texas, it would be nice if Avelo’s planes and employees never left the state starting today.
Your protest has absolutely NOTHING to do with this decision. Avelo business model works on the bottom edge of the market. IT was a great option for the west coast customers being robbed by United. Its called a free market. Competition is the great equalizer. But when the progressive west coast states TAX a business to death, the business, if well managed, will leave town. Its the capitalist way. Avelo follows MANY other companies out of the west coast. Avelo will still be flying to El Salvador, LOL……………….
They already had money problems before signing with ICE. They cut half of Santa Rosas daily flights a year ago.
Not the same. They were a charter airline previously (under a different name) and only opened as a scheduled carrier in 2021. They were never profitable as a scheduled carrier and the contract with ICE is only going back to what was profitable for them.
You give yourself (presumably yourself) way more credit than you’re due. And why is that so important?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avelo_Airlines
My wife was treated for Stage four lung cancer in Eureka, and the system accepted our insurance. Travel to Southern California is the only option for the family mentioned in this post?
So you guys are paying $37 billion to make people who do your work leave your sacred space?
…but, you make people pay for their own 600 mile travel for cancer treatments?
I must have read that wrong
The care that my wife needs is not offered in Humboldt County to the level that she needs it. We were traveling to Atlanta for the care that she needs that so far has given her 10 more years than was projected. The hospital she gets treatment from in Southern California bought the hospital She was being treated in Atlanta and thankfully now that we have to pay for Travel it’s closer and more affordable, so yes, it’s worth it for us to leave the area to get the treatment that will hopefully prolong her life. She does have a local oncologist that takes care of her acute needs and regular check ups and we love the care she gets there from Providence Oncology. Hopefully that answers your questions. Have a blessed day.
Our prayers and thoughts are with you. You’re making excellent decisions!
Thank you!
You did read it wrong.
And to go even deeper into this answer, when she was given her death sentence diagnosis in 2015 local doctors recommended her for palliative care while she spent her final days suffering with the disease. That’s all they could offer her here. Through a miraculous encounter we were able to find Cancer Teaming Centers of America who provided the care that she needed, and God did a miracle in her body that in one year she had no evidence of disease. They took care of her for eight years. It wasn’t till a couple years ago that the cancer had switched to triple negative breast cancer and a new treatment plan had to be developed. At City of Hope she can have a PET scan on Tuesday and the results and medical plan from her oncologist within 24 hours. You can’t get that type of care in Humboldt County. My bride is a fighter and has a lot to live for. I’m going to make sure she gets the care she needs to make that happen. Blessings
I meant Cancer Treatment Centers of America 🙂
Private pay or MediCal? Big difference where you might be going for that. There’s treatment and then there’s effective, modernized, and FAST treatment. I know people here who died waiting for treatments for aggressive cancers that, if they were able to go south to say, UCSF, probably might have survived longer. Some cancers cannot be treated here as there are no specialists for it. Nor are there more specific specialists (e.g. electrocardiologists) here beyond general practitioners. We’re in a medical desert. And even Providence’s equipment is, per a couple of nurses from UCSF recently, “Woefully outdated and imprecise”, and were quick to point out Humboldt’s deficiencies.
Lisa! Nice work on the ACV Stats graphic!
Cool that will let them do more deportation flights . WIN WIN
Money, money money, mon-ey! American businesses are about mass profits. The days of a little profit to move the country is gone. It’s only MASSIVE profits that count. The rest be damned. Quite a sorry state of affairs. But the world/country we live in. All the more reason for each of us to take care of which is around us.
The Apprentice theme song…”For the Love of Money” by the O Jays.
The Eureka and Arcata councils and the Board of Supervisors are absolutely inept. Combined with the State’s and prior Federal policies, they have made this area a permanent economic and environmental disaster. Why do they continually support transiency, illegal immigration and jihadists. Their jobs are not supposed to be political. Its disgusting. This place is in the dark ages.
They are also changing their name to Epstein Air.
Here to serve the pedo-king Trump.
Pedoair. All seats are first class. Children fly for free.
Well I guess we won’t be visiting family down south every year any longer. The drive is just too long and without avelo flights are not affordable.
Didn’t like the family anyway.
What a horribly misleading headline!! Avelo’s decision to stop service in ALL Western states — not just California — was a business decision and had nothing to do with deportation flight boycotts. Just another a sad attempt at clickbait.
Did you read the article? It says just that. They did decide to depart California after the backlash, not because of it.
Yes, I read the article. Yes, I know the decision was not backlash-related. Unfortunately, your misleading headline infers otherwise.
Really’s right. Really. As an explanation of the Avelo exit, it’s hard to wade through what the facts even are. But as a report on the inane local politics of Progressives, it’s enlightening. As such, the headline is not about Avelo at all. It’s about local politics. Does that make it click bait? Probably not but it does show what is important to this site’s management.
Most of the article is given over to political agenda from local contacts, a backhanded sop to the airline’s statement (“Despite the protest campaign, data provided by the County of Humboldt shows that Avelo’s flights remained well utilized even after the boycott began.”), and personal story about the negative effect of their departure for one family.
Then comes the biggest hoot of all- the self-aggrandizing comments of Bergel and this guy’s slant-” Matthew Boulay of the Stop Avelo Coalition. What matters in the end apparently is the idea that some get satisfaction out of political posturing, despite everything that shows it had no effect, that facts are irrelevant. Long live coincidence’s victory over causation.
Aveno Public Relations is Politically Correct. Of course the backlash was a factor in the final decision to leave, perhaps “the nail in the coffin”.
Yeah, right… despite all evidence to the contrary, repeat “I believe.” That is exactly the why Trump got elected. Some believe in Trump but the Democrats believed in themselves.
I think you are correct. Signing up for the bonus, staying for the required time, then leaving, were all part of Aveno business plan from the beginning. https://kymkemp.com/2025/07/15/avelo-airlines-to-depart-california-after-deportation-flight-backlash/#comment-1849388
No, you’re wrong…
Whether or not the decision was backlash related was not specified by Avelo…
Avelo said that “there is rarely one singular reason why decisions like this are made”…
The headline works if the backlash affected the decision, or not…
It also works if the question of the effect of the backlash remains unanswered…
AS IN…
There was backlash…
…Avelo is departing after backlash, irregardless of it’s effect or if t he ere was none.
No matter what, the headline WORKS…
Lets not kid ourselves…
Humboldt County politicians are delusional and unhinged. I refer to Bonn as Mr. Nepotism and called his that for approving an illegal subdivision for his friend. They even voted to ignore the Brown Act to sneak the sub-division by. Our Stupidvisors are feckless and pandering bums.
This is exactly the kind of narrative control I raised red flags about during our last exchange over the Avelo boycott story.
The article itself admits that Avelo gave no reason for pulling out of Humboldt but the headline you’ve chosen to run with actually frames Avelo’s exit as the result of ‘backlash,’ which suggests cause and effect without having to actually prove it.
That’s storytelling, and it feeds the narrative activists want, whether it’s accurate or not.
Because actually no, Avelo isn’t pulling out because of the theatrics of the Eureka city council. In fact, they’re ending all West Coast operations, including routes in Eugene and other regional markets. That’s a broad business decision, not a local activist victory.
(Or maybe they’re just making plenty of $$$ flying deportees out of Arizona and don’t need foggy Arcata, who knows!)
And those deportations? Still legal. ICE is a federal agency enforcing immigration law. Period.
Since we’re dredging up the entire Avelo boycott saga, let’s get the facts straight:
At Kym’s behest I subjected myself to the entire Eureka City Council meeting. The Avelo discussion drew 17 speakers — not “over two dozen” as stated in this article. Why rewrite the record to exaggerate those numbers? When it is after all, a “record….”
And the tone of that meeting? It came off as a dramatic reenactment of the Nuremberg Trials. 😆 Every single speaker declaring ICE a ‘fascist hate machine’ and Avelo the moral equivalent of a war criminal! All over $2,500 in flights.
Which revisits the gist of my point from our previous discussion : When public comment spirals into fiction without factual clarification, and headlines reinforce those lies, reporting crosses the line from informing, to managing perception.
A more honest headline for this news might have been:
“Avelo Ending Eureka Flights; Cites No Official Reason.”
If a city resolution over $2,500 in travel funds toppled an entire regional airline network, we should all be deeply concerned about the fragility of the aviation industry. Or… maybe, just maybe, it didn’t.
What really happened?
Avelo is leaving many West Coast markets. Likely due to profitability, not a symbolic and meaningless resolution that no one outside of Eureka even noticed.
Hey, thanks for the catch on the number of commenters. That was my error, and I appreciate you pointing it out—it’s now corrected.
As for the rest of your comment:
The headline says “after,” not “because of.” That’s a meaningful distinction—it indicates sequence, not causation. I considered using “amid,” but it was already saturated in other coverage. The article itself clearly states that Avelo did not attribute its departure to the boycott. I even took the additional step of analyzing ACV enplanement data to determine if the boycott had any measurable impact. It didn’t—and I reported that fact plainly.
That said, to omit the ongoing public calls for a boycott would have been irresponsible. That context matters. Whether or not you agree with the comments made at the Eureka City Council meeting, the outcry was real and documented. Your own review of the meeting confirms that. Reporting on what members of the public said at a public meeting—even if you disagree with them—is not the same as endorsing their views.
The article also addressed the human cost of Avelo’s exit, including how it affects a local family. That’s not “managing perception”—it’s local reporting.
If it rains every day and we report that it’s raining, our coverage isn’t “spreading a narrative” about rain. It’s just reporting what’s happening. You’re free to wish for sunshine—but don’t confuse the forecast with the weather itself.
I appreciate the correction but let’s not pretend “after” is some neutral timeline marker in a headline. We both know it carries an implied cause-and-effect—especially when it follows a loaded word like “backlash!”
In headlines, “after” almost always implies a consequence. It’s journalism shorthand for “X triggered Y”. If it was just about sequence, you’d say ‘despite (or amid) backlash’—but you didn’t.
It becomes apparent you chose “after” for a reason. It serves to preserve the implication of a public victory without actually having to prove it.
And the thing is- to address your muddled rain analogy – it’s not that you reported the rain. You chose a headline that said “Town floods after angry villagers do a rain dance”……and then tucked a line into the article saying “Oh, by the way, meteorologists found no link between the dance and the storm.”
That’s the issue. I’m not denying the rain. I’m pointing out that the framing suggests a cause that isn’t backed by facts—and that framing shapes how the public understands what happened, regardless of what’s buried further down, or how hard you want to cling to “after = just a timeline, not a cause,” like it’s a bulletproof shield. Because frankly, that defense is paper-thin in the context of headline writing.
I understand how you—or others—might read it that way, but the article clearly states that Avelo did not attribute its departure to the boycott. That clarification appears in both the article and the excerpt beneath the headline.
That said, after hearing from several readers who misunderstood the intent, I might choose “amid” if I were writing the headline again—though that too could be interpreted as implying causation. Word choice is always open to interpretation, especially in headlines, but that doesn’t mean every editorial decision is a calculated narrative play.
The bigger problem here is your insistence on knowing my intent. You don’t. And your accusations ignore what’s plainly reported. When I explain the editorial process, you brush it off—or claim the circumstances don’t matter. (They do. Time constraints matter.)
We don’t have the luxury of endlessly analyzing every possible nuance of every word. On the day this article went up, I worked nine hours covering scanner traffic, moderating, formatting, and publishing 22 items—including a gas leak with evacuation orders and two collisions. I took a brief break to water my flowers, then jumped back in scheduling an interview before taking 1.5 hrs off to play a softball game, returned home, analyzed ACV data (which showed the boycott had no measurable impact), created a graph, updated the evac story, found a feature photo, wrote the excerpt, embedded links, and published the Avelo piece after 1:30 a.m. I crawled into bed at 1:55.
That’s not a plea for sympathy—it’s a reality check. In that reality, dissecting every possible interpretation of the word “after” doesn’t rise to the top of the priority list. Convincing someone intent on seeing bias where there is none? Even lower.
As for the rain analogy—you’re misapplying it. My point was never about the headline; it was about your insistence that reporting what people say at a public meeting amounts to pushing a narrative. Reporting what was said at a city council meeting—whether I agree with it or not—is public-record journalism. Just as reporting that it rained doesn’t mean we caused the storm, reporting what people said at the ECC meeting doesn’t mean we caused or endorsed their beliefs. If 17 people had shown up in support of Avelo, arguing that deportation flights are noble and immigrants are dangerous, we’d report that too. Agreement isn’t the threshold for newsworthiness—public record is.
Also, if I were “pushing a narrative,” why would I include the voice of someone personally harmed by Avelo’s departure?
And for the record, “after” is perfectly appropriate under AP style—as used by nearly every major newsroom. It’s a standard word in headlines to indicate sequence, not causation. The backlash happened. Then Avelo announced its exit. That’s the timeline. That’s the headline.
But if you’re producing articles, please share a link so I can learn from your expertise on headline writing.
I’m amazed at the amount of time you and Kym spend sparring with commenters who constantly attack your motives but refuse to accept factual explanations.
Your headline placed Avelo’s departure in context and attracted people to the story — it is 100% accurate as written and clearly served it’s purpose.
People will read into the headline and the story what they want — it’s impossible and not your responsibility to account for every nuance that people wish to see or think they see.
The lack of ill intent is clear to anyone who reads the article which clearly states the circumstances of Avelo’s departure.
Maybe the morons claiming malicious intent can explain why you’d write an intentionally misleading headline then refute it with an unbiased article when you could just as easily have written an article claiming Avelo was baling out because of the protests.
I tell myself daily to disengage. It’s one thing to answer a question, it’s another to waste time defending myself to people that are intent on believing the worst of us. Then other times I think that letting accusations lie lends some validity to them.
The comment section, while it does produce some amazing moments here and there, remains my least favorite part of my job.
Thank you for the reminder to not feed the bears.
It’s not a reminder not to feed the bears, who are operating with honest intent — it’s a reminder not to feed the trolls who, as you say, “are intent on believing the worst” of you and Kym — facts, logic and a forthright explanation can’t compete with their conspiratorial mindsets.
Just to be clear—I wasn’t revisiting the ECC/ ICE debate here. If there was more to say on that topic, a reply there with your rainfall analogy efforts and all that jazz might have made more sense. But repackaging those points and pinning them to this discussion—where my critique is about headline framing??? It’s like you are retroactively unloading unresolved resentment from the previous thread and I’m being scolded for a conversation I’m not even having right now. 😆 But since YOU brought it up : my point—then and now—is that when extreme claims are reported without context or clarification, they can read as a tacit endorsement or facts. Or even, pushing a narrative.Presenting them without context or contrast opens the door to exactly the kind of narrative bias I originally raised! Let’s not play coy…..
And as to your thoughtful novella here and the passive aggressive request I verify my headline writing abilities with a link? 😆 FYI I don’t need to be a headline writer to spot framing that suggests causation. Just like I don’t need to be a meteorologist to know when someone’s telling me it’s raining while peeing on my leg.
No big deal if myself, and others, disagree with you on the interpretation of the word “after” in this piece, but framing another person’s pov as ignorance or bad faith shuts down the dialogue. (And maybe that’s the goal 😆 no worries! I’ve got sleepless nights, and a big fat to-do list of my own- that I’m not going to bore you with… )
If this malingered headline truly had no implied causality, you wouldn’t need to explain your workload, intentions, softball schedule, or flower watering. You’d simply stand on the alleged clarity of the words.
BS. You started your post to me out by stating, “This is exactly the kind of narrative control I raised red flags about during our last exchange over the Avelo boycott story.” draggin the previous accusations into this one.
Additionally, it is you that continues to attack my intent regardless of what I say. And you’re right, I don’t need to defend myself. I was offering an explanation which will never be good enough for those who just want to attack.
So, I’ll refrain from explanations to your accusations of narrative pushing and write BS under each BS claim with no explanation as to why your accusation is not true. It’ll save me time and a headache. While I prefer genuine conversation, that is obviously not possible here when silence is complicit and explanations/conversations are considered defense and therefore proof of guilt.
Good day.
The word “after” implies correlation, not chronology. The chronology is obvious, needing no article at all.
Depends on interpretation.
The word “after” could imply causation/correlation,
and/or, chronology…
Clickbait
You keep accusing us of narrative control while spinning your own fantasy to try and persuade others what occurred. Lisa’s reporting was solid: she noted clearly that Avelo gave no official reason, corrected the count of speakers once flagged, and explicitly stated there was no measurable dip in enplanements tied to the boycott. That’s transparency, not manipulation.
Your fixation on the headline—using “after” to imply some grand conspiracy—is a reach. “After” means after. It’s a factual sequence, not a claim of cause. And let’s not pretend the public backlash didn’t happen just because you found it inconvenient. You know what occurred at the meeting. People spoke out. It’s on record. Reporting that isn’t feeding a narrative—it’s covering reality.
Your disdain for local voices, mocking them as “Nuremberg Trials” over $2,500, reveals your priorities more than anything in the article. Lisa gave space to both the economic impact and the public protest. That’s called journalism. You’re not critiquing bias—you’re angry the facts don’t align with your preferred storyline.
If your goal is to silence uncomfortable truths by throwing around accusations of bias every time public sentiment runs counter to your views, that’s not calling for honest reporting—it’s demanding selective blindness.
The headline still implies a relationship to the protests and avelo leaving. The body of the article explains there is no relationship so it dosen’t need to be mentioned in the headline. It’s clickbait. And misleading. The headline could simply state that avelo is leaving Humboldt County.
Such as this.
You forgot this…
https://lostcoastoutpost.com/2025/jul/14/breaking-avelo-airlines-leaving-humboldt-county-cl/
And this…
“Protests nor our contract with DHS had any effect on our decision and did not impact our business.”
The headline, is perfect, as written…
It neither confirms, nor denies, a very possible relationship to the months long ongoing protests, and it even includes a timeline…
As in, post backlash announcement…
And, like any good headline, it was obviously a well worded attention grabber…
Let’s give proper journalistic credit, where that sort of journalistic credit is due…
Very well written, in depth article, Lisa Music…
Including the headline…
And you’re playing to a very tough crowd…
I know, I know, what you must be thinking…
“Who are you, and what have you done with, “The (real) Real Guest…???”
In a perfect world, we’d craft every headline to anticipate and eliminate every possible misreading—no matter how quickly the article itself clears things up. But we’re human. Often running on too little sleep, too little time, and definitely too little pay for the work it takes to report local news with accuracy and care. For context: Lisa went to bed after I did (and I was up until 1 a.m.), and we were both scheduled to be back at it by 8. I was on before then.
The headline reflects the timeline, not causation. Lisa was careful about that, and the article makes it abundantly clear. So if someone reads the full piece and still insists it’s misleading—I’m going to gently suggest the headline probably isn’t the real problem.
Blaming the readers for how they interpret a headline? That’s a first.
I have zero interest in debating anyone’s sleep schedule or wages—those are personal challenges, and we all have them (the struggle is real!). But let’s stay focused on what multiple readers are actually pointing out: how language—especially in headlines—shapes public perception. That’s literally the job of a headline.
If your audience can’t question framing without being accused of bias or disrespecting your workload… then maybe the problem isn’t the readers.
We forgive ourselves but not others.
“The headline reflects the timeline, not causation. Lisa was careful about that, and the article makes it abundantly clear.”…
…”So if someone reads the full piece and still insists it’s misleading—I’m going to gently suggest the headline probably isn’t the real problem.”
-Kym Kemp-
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Hmmm…
REALLY…???
Does this recent RHBB headline, from less than 4 months ago, written by you, ALSO reflect the TIMELINE, (or does it AT LEAST, ALSO, PRIMARILY, reflect, CORRELATION/CAUSATION)…???
https://kymkemp.com/2025/03/22/crescent-city-man-dead-after-being-struck-by-a-car-in-oregon/
‘CRESCENT CITY MAN DEAD ➡️ “AFTER” ⬅️ BEING STRUCK BY A CAR IN OREGON’
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I mean, the implication that “AFTER” in this headline could POSSIBLY be misconstrued as a reference to chronology, but I believe that would be a misunderstanding on the reader’s part…
You are the headline’s author…
Did you use “AFTER” in THIS headline as measure of CHRONOLOGY, OR, as indication of CAUSATION/CORRELATION…???
The overarching specific implication of “AFTER” in THIS headline IS, in fact, a measure of, “CAUSATION/CORRELATION”…
The implication of “AFTER” in this headline being, specifically, a measure of “CHRONOLOGY”…???
NOT SO MUCH…
Were we supposed to have ALSO assumed that the use of “AFTER” in THIS headline, had ALSO, specifically implied, ONLY CHRONOLOGY…???
I don’t think so…
I’m SURE that’s not how you meant “AFTER” in this instance, either, as if being struck by a car had nothing to do with him being ultimately declared dead, other than establishing a chronological reference point in time, to compare it to the time of his actual death…
Therefore, the ambiguity of the word “AFTER”, as opposed to it’s specifity tied only to a meaning of “CHRONOLOGY”, is properly to ALSO include, “AFTER”, having an additional commonly used meaning of, “CAUSATION/CORRELATION”, and that has been sufficiently proven, by simply using your own words and linked headline…
Which brings us back to the beginning…
‘AVELO AIRLINES TO DEPART CALIFORNIA ➡️ “AFTER” ⬅️ DEPORTATION FLIGHT BACKLASH’
“The headline reflects the timeline, not causation.”
Yet in a previous RHBB headline…
‘CRESCENT CITY MAN DEAD ➡️ “AFTER” ⬅️ BEING STRUCK BY A CAR IN OREGON’
Where…
The headline, CLEARLY, reflects “CAUSATION”, AND NOT, “THE TIMELINE”…
“Lisa was careful about that, and the article makes it abundantly clear. So if someone reads the full piece and still insists it’s misleading—I’m going to gently suggest the headline probably isn’t the real problem.”
I agree…
BUT, if someone initially interpreted the ambiguous meaning of “after” and therefore the entire headline as causation, that’s perfectly understandable, and not improper…
So, the now unquestionable ambiguity of the headline becomes the root of the problem…
If they then went on reading the article, and the article didn’t uphold their legitimate initial interpretation in their mind, and therefore concluded that in their mind, the headline was misleading due to it’s AMBIGUITY, that is perfectly understandable, as well…
I appreciate the struggle but hold you to a higher standard. Examples from yahoo, and many national news(sic) agencies are nothing but click bait which I no longer take seriously because their headlines are bullshit.
But the Eureka City Council/Democrat Committee charade WAS PART of the Avelo backlash…
It wasn’t the only backlash…
To have at least partially interpreted the “after backlash” headline to mean, leadingly, “after the ECC charade” is at least partially understandable…
To a point….
“After backlash” could be interpreted as “post backlash”, and even due, to whatever degree, from backlash…
I initially sort of saw it that way at first too, with the ECC charade backlash so fresh still in my mind…
You mentioned that Lisa’s reporting was solid: she noted clearly that Avelo gave no official reason,
Lisa clarified The article itself clearly states that Avelo did not attribute its departure to the boycott.
What I also noticed was that Lisa also clarified that the backlash has been going on for “months”…
“The decision comes just months after public outcry over the airline’s contract with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to operate deportation flights—but Avelo maintains the move is financial, not political.”
..although I’m not sure what a “political” reason of Avelo’s would be, or even look like, affecting their decision for their “departure” from Humboldt…
So “after backlash” has been even further clarified, by Lisa Music, to have long predated the ECC/Democrat Committee charade…
Maybe she is a better writer than even you are giving her credit for…???
😁 😉
The more I think about it, the better I think the headline was written…
No matter the reason for the departure announcement, the headline covers it…
The announcement did come most recently….
I love a good double-entendre, that headline is more of a triple-entendre…
Avelo did not confirm, nor deny, that there decision was influenced by the ongoing backlash…
Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t…
It’s unlikely to have had no effect…
It likely “contributed”, for lack of a better term…
But wasn’t that the whole goal of the backlash…???
Maybe the backlash DID succeed…???
(For lack of a more appropriate term for concerted sabotage…)
It’s very possible that it had it’s intended effect…
Avelo will soon depart…
I hope your all happy..
Now everyone around here will pay more to fly in and out…
Everyone, not just the rabble rousers…
Avelo won’t be the only loser…
I’d hardly call that winning…
I’d call that misplaced punishment…
Those that will now suffer will include those that can least afford the consequences of self righteous cauldron stirrers…
Like struggling cancer patients…
The Liberals should all give themselves and each other a big round of extra resounding pats on their backs…
They should all sleep extra good tonight knowing they have shifted the unmanageable burden from their shoulders, onto the backs of others…
What a collectively self satisfying sigh of relief they must mostly all be simultaneously experiencing.
It was backlash, but the corporate decision was already made before ICE was even involved.
You imply my post was somehow anti-democratic or dismissive of local voices, but that’s a deflection. I didn’t attack the speakers; I critiqued the way their actions were positioned to imply causality that the article itself says doesn’t exist.
I have not been the one coming to this conversation with anger. My original post simply pointed out a pattern , how language—particularly headlines—can shape public perception. Your response, instead of engaging with that point, leaned into your personal assumptions and attacks on my character and motives.
You basically went for the throat and attempted to derail the discussion by
trying to discredit my credibility and motives in one fell swoop—not by addressing my points, but by painting me as someone who’s anti-truth and pro-censorship. 😆 I don’t mind disagreement. I do mind being cast as a villain when I offer a critical perspective that cuts too close for your comfort. That pattern’s getting tired.
There’s a difference between disagreeing with someone’s interpretation and accusing them of dishonesty. Critical conversations are more productive when we stay focused on the content, not personal assumptions about “attitude” or motive.
That kind of framing undermines civil critique, and doesn’t change the fact that the headline still suggests a cause-and-effect relationship that the facts don’t support
This is not just a loss for travelers, but the county as well. The fees Avelo paid to use ACV will be hard to make up–keeping that big facility up is pretty spendy.
I believe that the fees you are speaking of dont come close to offsetting the cost of the sign on bonus that Humboldt County paid Avelo to get them to set up shop here. That sign on bonus was funder by taxpayers and the payback was supposed to come from increased sales tax revenue from tourism. Several airlines like Avelo have made a business model out of collecting sign on bonuses from small rural counties and staying the minimum required duration wile ensuring full flights by providing slightly less expensive tickets. No, I disagree, this is not a loss for the County. We need to attract another permanent airline or stop wasting money recruiting.
Yep, not just the taxpayers of Eureka that ECC represents
who will be yoked with the loss of revenue, and the increased cost…
All Humboldt County taxpayers will be footing the bill for Avelo’s departure…
https://budget.house.gov/download/the-cost-of-illegal-immigration-to-taxpayers
whats the best cost benefit analysis of illegal/undocumented migrants
I just think we aren’t afforded the same treatment in other countries!
do we qualify for the same benefits in other countries
So let’s shut it down. Zero expense.
Hahaha, Avelo doesn’t negotiate with terrorists
Avelo will be out of business in six months.
Socialists will make this county unaffordable, and unwelcoming, assuring we have no affordable flights, and streets full of nodding off fent addicts. Because, you know, compassion. This is so so sad, its such a beautiful place to live, and this county and state gov will make it uninhabitable.
Anyway, off to fill up on $6 gas, while our Oregonian and Nevadian neighbors pay $3. Oh the compassion, its just too much!
Better get a move on.
Well….when ICE comes here and starts rounding up illegal immigrants I imagine United will fly some planes out of ACV just filled w them. Of course United will charge more. And the taxpayers will pay more…..a lot more!
I hope that hiding behind the redwood curtain will get us ignored. Of course the public announcements of “sanctuary” make it harder to hide but it’s not the first time Humboldt country has been willing to sacrifice success in the name of political correctness no matter how stupid their decision about what is correct.
If “why can’t we have a Trader Joe’s” is to be used as an economic thermometer, we’ll always be ignored. People just don’t like big/chain businesses around here, and there’s simply not enough people with lots of disposable income to be profitable for small businesses. And then you get to your potential customers that do nothing but bitch about your private life or politics on social media, and now nobody wants to open up shop. We are our own fiscal murderers.
Shut the airport to all commercial traffic. Convert to ICE, Coast Guard, and DEA west coast northern headquarters. This outta get the raging grannies and other assorted leftists and fellow travelers in political paradigms completely enraged and totally unhinged. While at first glance this may seem like a dumb idea, think about it, this could propel Humboldt County into the black in terms of budget. The government could lease the facility for a 20 billion a year. All going to Humboldt. And since the airport for commercial traffic is unreliable at best, Humboldt County could develop an airporter type shuttle bus service which runs daily from Humboldt to Oakland and SFO. Nonstops, just Humboldt to the airports snd back.
Its a win for all: Humboldts budget in the black – no more budget worries; Airporter shuttle buses run daily back snd forth to Bay Area airports; less Cenent people having easy access to our area which will discourage them from taking up residence here; and the most important of all, the local unhinged leftists will have something to protest for the rest of their miserable, boring life’s.
Let’s do this!
What is meant by “Cenent people?”
Thanks.
Typo for “Cement People”, i.e. folks living in the Concrete Jungles.