Attorney General Bonta Leads 20 States in Opposing Tennessee’s Law Barring Access to Gender-Affirming Care for Transgender Youth
This is a press release from the Office of California Attorney General Rob Bonta:
California Attorney General Rob Bonta led a multistate coalition of 20 attorneys general in filing an amicus brief in the U.S. Supreme Court in U.S. v. Skrmetti, urging the Court to reverse a decision from the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals upholding a state law in Tennessee that bans critical, lifesaving gender-affirming care for transgender adolescents suffering from gender dysphoria. In April 2023, plaintiffs in L.W. v. Skrmetti sued to enjoin Tennessee’s Senate Bill (SB) 1, which prohibits medical professionals from treating transgender adolescents with gender dysphoria using gender-affirming puberty blockers and hormone therapy—regardless of what the transgender minor, their parents, and their medical providers deem to be medically necessary, and even though the medical and scientific evidence is clear that the benefits of gender-affirming care far outweigh any limited risks, and every major medical organization agrees that such care is safe and effective. In the amicus brief, the coalition stresses that a ban on gender-affirming care constitutes discrimination on the basis of sex and transgender status, and violates the Equal Protection Clause of the U.S. Constitution.
“Amidst a growing assault on LGBTQ+ rights nationwide, it is crucial to safeguard and uphold health care rights and freedoms for all, particularly our most vulnerable communities,” said Attorney General Bonta. “In our ongoing efforts to ensure equal and uninterrupted medical care for everyone, I urge the Supreme Court to reverse the lower court’s ruling. Tennessee’s discriminatory law only serves to further marginalize transgender individuals and put their lives at risk.”
In August 2023, Attorney General Bonta led a coalition in support of the plaintiffs, stressing the importance of gender-affirming care for the health and well-being of transgender youth. After a district court ruled that SB 1 likely violated the Equal Protection Clause and granted a preliminary injunction against the law, the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals reversed the decision. Unlike the district court, the Sixth Circuit failed to recognize that SB 1 discriminates on the basis of sex and transgender status.
Many transgender teens suffer from gender dysphoria, which results from the incongruence between their gender identity and sex assigned at birth. When left untreated, gender dysphoria has been found to cause severe distress and anxiety, depression, fatigue, decreased social functioning, substance misuse, and a poorer quality of life. Among transgender people, suicide attempts are nine times more common than in the overall U.S. population. Those risks are even higher among transgender youth.
In their amicus brief, the coalition asserts that SB 1:
- Significantly harms the health and lives of transgender adolescents by denying them medically necessary care that protects their physical, emotional, and psychological health.
- Is discriminatory because it bans medical treatment for transgender youth while permitting it for cisgender youth.
- Violates the Equal Protection Clause because Tennessee cannot justify categorically banning a vulnerable group of people from accessing a beneficial form of care.
In filing the amicus brief, Attorney General Bonta was joined by the attorneys general of Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, and the District of Columbia.
A copy of the amicus brief is available here.
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Before the hateful and ignorant comments set in:
Less that 1% of people who receive gender-affirming treatment regret their choice.
https://theconversation.com/transgender-regret-research-challenges-narratives-about-gender-affirming-surgeries-220642#:~:text
For means of comparison:
Between 5% and 9% of people report regretting breast augmentation surgery,
Up to 19.5% report regretting bariatric surgery,
Between 11% and 33% regret body augmentation surgery.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0002961024002381#:~:text
And between 5%-14% pf people report regretting their decision to have kids.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/your-future-self/202310/if-you-regret-parenthood-researchers-say-youre-not-alone
Meanwhile, “of the 23 studies that met the inclusion criteria, the majority indicated a reduction in suicidality following gender-affirming treatment…”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10027312/
1. Sample Size and DemographicsMany studies on gender-affirming care have relatively small sample sizes, or they may be conducted within specific populations (e.g., clinics that offer gender-affirming care). This can limit the generalizability of the results. When only a select group is studied, the findings might not represent the broader transgender population. Additionally, if the studies are based primarily in urban, progressive areas, outcomes may differ in more conservative or rural regions where social support might be less.
2. Follow-up DurationMany studies rely on short-term follow-up (a few months to a few years) to assess satisfaction and regret. Given that gender-affirming surgeries are life-altering decisions, it would be more informative to see long-term outcomes. Regret or dissatisfaction may not surface until years later as personal circumstances, health, or social environments change.
3. Underreporting of RegretThere is a possibility that some individuals who regret gender-affirming care may not feel comfortable coming forward due to stigma or fear of being judged by either the transgender community or broader society. This can result in underreporting, which could give the false impression of a lower regret rate.
4. Bias in Study DesignStudies conducted by clinics or researchers with a vested interest in supporting gender-affirming care may inadvertently introduce bias into their methods. Even with the best intentions, researchers might unconsciously design studies that favor positive outcomes. For example, framing questions in a certain way or selecting participants who are more likely to report positive outcomes can introduce bias.
When that’s money to be made or votes to be bought leftists will support anything
How many transgender people do you know or have you talked to? Once you do, get back to us. Till then your opinions, likely shaped by (far) right propaganda, have been discounted.
And how many do your know?
Anecdotely, previously FtM cousin was going to do “so” in ~2009. She opted to eventually not since the hormones were literally killing her and she was more unhappy with the myriad layers that are *transition* … she’s back to being a butch lesbian now ans is much happier than she was a decade ago.
Good for her! Sometimes people need to consider extreme measures to take themselves to what is truly their path.
I have very close M2F and F2M friends. Transitioning saved their lives and they are very happy now. I believe this to be the norm.
But no one I know argues in favor of teen suicide….do you?
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I only knew 1 person in High School who had full gender altering surgery, later committed suiside as he fell in love with a female but then lacked his birthright organs, which were surgically altered.
The same article from the biased source that you posted,
“It’s important to note that this research is not conclusive. Views of surgeries can change over time, and patients can feel quite differently about their outcomes eight years after their surgery as opposed to one year after their surgery.”
These are irreversible surgeries. It is absolute nonsense that a child has the ability to consent to irreversible elective surgery.
Yep
Statistics can be made to do whatever you want them too. Bonita should mind his own business.
Preventing teen suicide is sort of everyone’s business isn’t it. It should be
Red herring
Hardly.
But I am guessing you are not trans and probably know no one who is. You also probably do not have a child who had been bullied to the point of suicide. If you think for a short while and research “teen suicide” you might change your mind.
What are the age ranges for your studies…???
The first link of yours recommends at least 15 for these types of procedures, and that is AFTER a THOROUGH, EXTENDED evaluation…
So you are contradicting yourself by associating your percentages with this very different opposition to those very recommendations…
What are the age parameters and age recommendations associated with the rest of your links…
If they are not consistent with “adolescents”, they are not exactly relevant to this conversation which IS associated with “adolescents”…
Do you advocate for gender affirming care for children as young as 10, or less…???
Bonta’s nonsense would include minors as young as 10 years old, or less, by using such an ambiguous age defining term as “adolescents”…
Anyone not demanding crystal clear, legally defined, binding, age parameters, including Bonta, (especially considering he is our AG, our states legal representative), needs to have their head examined, and clearly aren’t qualified to be making decisions like this for our young citizens.
Jebs is advocating on FALSE virtue …
As usual. They are pretty much the poster child for all that is wrong in current “liberal” or “progressive” propaganda. I sometimes think he’s actually subtly working for the opposite side by submitting the most ridiculous statements ….
From your government ncbi nlm nih link…
(Age ranges are generally not mentioned or defined, except under the category of ‘Hormones’, (eight to 21…) )
…”In a subsequently published erratum, ➡️the authors noted no statistically significant difference in odds of hospitalization following a suicide attempt between transgender individuals matched by age, legal gender, education, and country of birth who had and who had not received any gender-affirming hormone or surgical treatment.⬅️ The authors also reported that there was an absence of information that could be gathered on transgender individuals who died by suicide before 2015.”…
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‘Hormones’
“Hisle-Gorman et al. (2021) conducted a retrospective cohort study of 3,754 transgender and gender-diverse (TGD) youth aged ➡️eight to 21 years of age in the US military healthcare system⬅️. Mental healthcare utilization of TGD individuals was compared before and after the initiation of gender-affirming hormones or puberty blockers. Mental healthcare utilization of TGD individuals was also compared to their cisgender siblings. Suicidality was measured by the presence of a diagnosis of suicidal ideation or self-harm (non-suicidal self-injury or self-harm with suicidal intent not specified). Odds ratios and incidence rate ratios were adjusted for sex, total healthcare contacts per year, age at gender-affirming treatment initiation, use of puberty blockers vs. gender-affirming hormones, and parental rank.
TGD youth had greater odds of receiving a diagnosis for suicidal ideation or self-harm than their siblings (aOR, 7.45; 95% CI, 6.11-9.08). About a quarter of the TGD cohort were on either puberty blockers or gender-affirming hormones. Data were analyzed to compare their mental healthcare utilization from roughly seven years prior to gender-affirming treatment with understandably years following treatment initiation.
➡️The adjusted incidence rate ratio of mental healthcare visits for suicidality was ➡️higher⬅️following the initiation of gender-affirming care (adjusted incidence rate ratio, 1.74; 95% CI, 1.18-2.56) [38].⬅️”
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Maybe you should reconsider…???
“Suicidality”…???
Big difference between “suicidality” and “suicide attempt” and/or “suicide”…
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8429339/
‘The critical distinction between suicidal ideation and suicide attempts’
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https://anderson.edu/student-life/counseling/suicidality/#:~:text=The%20American%20Psychological%20Association%20defines,plans%2C%20gestures%2C%20or%20attempts.
‘WHAT IS SUICIDALITY’
“The American Psychological Association defines suicidality as “the risk of suicide, usually indicated by suicidal ideation or intent, especially as evident in the presence of a well-elaborated suicidal plan.”
It can also be defined to include suicidal thoughts, plans, gestures, or attempts.”
I believe true occurrences of “gender dysphoria” are rare and have been enabled by gender activists who were pushing their agenda for years before the general public began to realize what was going on.
Corruption of language has been a key tactic as words have been invented or re-interpreted.
“Gender Affirming Care” sounds so innocuous but at its ultimate expression provides for genital mutilation or cutting off a girl’s healthy breasts.
“Cisgender” is a completely made up term intended to derogate biological boys and girls who don’t question that they’re boys and girls – in contrast to cool kids who are “gender fluid” or “non-binary” or any number of other made up terms.
The “Sex Assigned at Birth” hoax has been pushed in an effort to make it seem that babies are arbitrarily placed in one group or another when sex is obvious except in a tiny percentage of cases.
The parents, teachers, medical personnel, politicians and activists pushing these false concepts are a depraved combination of attention seekers,!activists and opportunists using children as pawns in their game.
Children under 18 are prohibited from getting tattoos in California, with or without parental consent – but it’s legal to remove healthy breasts and genitals?
Children confused about their sexuality should receive counseling but irreversible elective medical procedures should wait until they’re at least 18 – although that seems incredibly young compared to the severity of the decisions being made.
Interestingly, the same people pushing to let children as young as 5 decide they’re the wrong gender assert that “youth” up to age 25 should be excused for committing crimes up to and including murder because their brains are still developing!
You can’t have it both ways – if 25 is too young to be held accountable for rape and murder then 17 (or 12 or 10) is too young to decide on life altering procedures.
I think you are totally correct that true “gender dysphoria” is very rare (at least it was 20 years ago).
Some of my best friends are gay, so I’ve spent a lot time around gay people. I took a class in college on gender 20 years ago before the trans activists took everything over.
My personal opinion is that a bunch of miserable self righteous trans people have convinced a huge portion of the gay population that they are trans. And they are not trans, they are just gay and that’s totally awesome! Most trans people seem very uncomfortable and unhappy and I really think it’s because they are trying to be something they are not.
That’s just my perspective. Personally I stay out of other people’s business. But when it comes to trans people trying to endanger children or trans “women” infringing on biological women’s rights then I’ve got a problem.
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A lot of it is MISOGYNY.
#ProveMeWrong
Right on. Gay is fully accepted now so I think they need a new battle to show how “oppressed” they are. Please everybody get comfortable in your own body. Love whoever you want. Enjoy your body however you like and with whoever. Please don’t hate the body you were born into! Body dysphoria is a rare but real thing- and it is a mental disease. I’m not shaming it just reminding us that these few people suffer from a mental disease. And they should be kept away from corrupting our children.
Excellent! Especially your first couple paragraphs. I’ve seen it spread into being a fad, a cool trend for the youth. My friend’s daughter got in with a cool crew of Santa Cruz artists who encouraged her- not counseled, not therapy but straight encouraged her to cut off her breasts. Well now she’s just as unhappy but with no breasts. Welcome to adulthood at 18 years old! Oh and yeah we taxpayers footed that bill….they never tell you that part
So sure- Let’s allow people who make profit off of gender-altering hormones and surgery to take confused adolescents away from their parents and do the deeds. And charge the taxpayers for this wonderful service. Makes perfect sense- Not! How twisted must you be to think that is reasonable?
Seems like a super sensible law. A very high percentage of confused teenagers end up regretting the decision to switch genders but the damage is irreversible.
im totally ok with adults doing whatever they want. If you want to cut your junk off and take hormones go for it.
As we all know teenagers brains are not fully formed and they have a tendency to make really stupid decisions. Not allowing them to make life changing and irreversible decisions until they are adults seems like common sense.
Absolutely correct ?
Nailed it
If the father of the Georgia shooter can be responsible for his son’s actions, then a child cannot be responsible for their body parts being lobed off …
Children cannot consent to puberty blockers.
Or apparently be responsible for the death of others.
Lifesaving treatment? Load of shit. It’s sterilization of kids.. this will cause permanent physical and mental damage. most will regret it later in life.. I’m all for this ban!!!! This needs to be banned in every state.
Amen
So… Bonta issues another taxpayer funded campaign document ?
Hmm… I wonder if he should pay more attention to what’s going on in California ?
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Nah…
Too difficult to take on the issues that actually matter. Besides, there are enough idiots to continue supporting these people regardless of how worthless they are.
https://www.billboardchris.com/the-studies
Define “adolescents”…
If you don’t see a problem with that definition not being CLEARLY defined by Bonta, then maybe you need to consider that as a significant oversight…???
“Adolescence, transitional phase of growth and development between childhood and adulthood. The World Health Organization (WHO) defines an adolescent as any person between ages 10 and 19. This age range falls within WHO’s definition of young people, which refers to individuals between ages 10 and 24.”
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Could be younger, could be older…
Way too fucking vague…
An “adolescent” is ascending and biologically transitioning into adulthood. Adults whose brain executive function has matured can do whatever body self inflicted mutilation they want imo. Just never ask me to foot the bill for the surgery and a lifetime of meds for your choice to do it.
Oh they won’t ask you. They will just take your money and use it that way without ever asking you. Indeed they are already doing it! And Bonta approves….
More idiocy from an idiot progressive
So let me get this strait. a 14 y.o. child can be gifted a firearm for unsupervised ownership and can be responsible for any actions they may regret a few years in the future but yet that same child can not be trusted to know their own mind and body and make life altering decisions that really, really effects nobody but themselves. You are all mad because Doug wants to be called Donna and is really a pretty girl inside and came to that conclusion at the time that growth and gender hormones are going to be most effective at making that change less noticeable at adulthood. Do you prefer Doug become Donna at 25 so donna can feel like herself but as a really ‘handsome’ woman that completely disowns her bio family?
No, you don’t have it straight, but nice attempt at deflection. Your premise is false as is your analogy.
No to both of those points.
Marxist Bonta wants to run your life and your children’s life. What’s next on the list?
Actually, very much the opposite.
He (and the 19 other Attorneys General) are arguing that individual choices should be left up to individuals, and that governments ought to butt out of such personal choices.
I disagree…The choice should be made by the parents until the teen becomes 18. Bonta and the government need to stay out of family matters.
While Newsom is arguing that all hemp products be regulated, a person must be 21 to purchase them, and, get this, no intoxicating THC, nor a “score” of other cannabinoids, will be allowed in these regulated hemp products…
So, while the Democrat’s are regulating the decision to purchase non intoxicants to until one is 21 years old, the Democrats are simultaneously, as you say, “arguing that individual choices should be left up to individuals, and that governments ought to butt out of such personal choices.”
I don’t suppose that you see the BLATANT DEMOCRAT HYPOCRISY …???
If you still don’t see it, consider that adolescents consuming hormones for gender “therapy”, paid for by insurance, is being encouraged by the Democrats, while Democrats are proposing bringing the hammer down on those under 21 as far as purchasing, or offering them, NON INTOXICATING HEMP PRODUCTS…
The Democrats have completely flipped their lids…
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4865744-california-thc-hemp-regulations-proposal/
Why would the Democrats regulate a product to only the over 21 that has no intoxicating substances…?
But, the Democrat’s attitude and agenda for gender bending drugs and gender altering surgeries for adolescents, 10-19 more or less…???
“No problem, whatsoever…”…
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That’s about as hypocritical as it could possibly be…
What do you expect? Dems love it when mixed-up kids wreak havoc on society. Then they point the finger at gun owners and say “look what you did!”. Sooooo sari. It’s the psycho drugs they put these poor kids on… it’s the gender confusion they push on society*. Leave the kids alone, you luciferian fascists!
and it’s the FBI who always has these violent/suicidal trans shooters “on their radar”, yet somehow “fails” to stop them. Gosh… what a coincidence. wink wink
Psychotropics are the true bane of our society …
Hormone therapy costs thousands of dollars a year. Reassignment surgery is ~$50,000, but when it is all said and done is closer to $100,000.
The number of surgeries has increased exponentially in recent years. The gender reassignment surgery market size is forecast to increase by $369 million between 2023 and 2028.
Its all about the money…
It’s far worse than all about the money – what kind of inhumanly depraved thing – sworn “to do no harm” – could possibly bring themselves to mutilate a child’s genitals or cut off a young girls breasts?
I have huge problems with gender re-assignment surgery before age of majority since nobody is fully developed emotionally when very young. This is just one of my problems with religions where Jews, Christians or Muslims “mutilate a child’s genitals” or other body parts, male or female, before age of consent, and call it service to God. Really?
The same kind of people who harvest aborted baby parts and sell them…
Spot on…It’s unconscionable.
#followthemoney
Once the industry is built it becomes dependent on that cash flow. Corporate lobbyists keep pushing for more, more dividends for the shareholders, more growth, more more. That’s business and this is already becoming big business, big money and big influence over weak greedy politicians like Bonta. And that’s your civics lesson for today lol!
But I heard that the schools are doing the pronoun changing surgery during the school day. It must be legal
My good friend is a custodian in an elementary school district. He warned them to not put tampons in the boys bathroom. A couple school board members actually called him “prejudiced” and “sexist”. Ha ha if you knew him. He was forced to put them in. Boys kept pushing the button, throwing them around all over hallways, classrooms, etc. The 5th and 6th grade girls were horrified and hundreds of tampons were wasted. Great going, school board!! Are we “progressive” yet?…
I have had trans friends who confided details of their lives before and after their transitions. All the pain, heartache, dysphoria, suicidal thoughts, self doubt, harassment, the cutting, and rejection are true. After transitioning, ‘magically’ that all disappears as they happily become their true selves for the first time in their life. I’ve heard it first hand!
Unless commenters here have first hand knowledge and information from transgender people. SHUT THE HELL UP!
Please see my previous comment – my FtM cousin was not happier. Back in the dark ages of this surgery she opted to not follow through fully because the hormones were wracking her body. She ultimately more happy being a butch lesbian …
No, we won’t shut up. This whole racket stinks of silencing anyone who doesn’t go along with the whole thing hook, line, and sinker. It’s socially regressive and uncivilized not to allow and encourage open debate on a topic now affecting (largely because now presented to, offered to) so many young people.
I personally have known a few transgender people. One of them who went through this long before it became a fad is a healthy enough person in all ways now… i believe he was truly confused; his mental illness was addressed; and part of the “cure” was his transition. The other few, desperately grasping at any hope of satisfaction in life, were messed up before, and are still messed up.
You might consider that anyone who chose to endure a chemical and surgical procedure like this, willingly, has an awful lot invested, and is extremely reluctant to admit it to anyone, including themself, if it begins to dawn on them that they made a mistake. Not to mention that the trans community will come down on them like a ton of bricks for becoming a traitor to their cause, and they will be left alone and badly damaged.
So… it’s no surprise that you don’t often hear people saying, “Oh yeah, whoops, silly me, i just made a wrong turn there… think i’d better reverse.” It’s not that simple. Much easier to carry on with the delusion that all is well, whether it is or not. And of course, they are no strangers to delusion. The very idea that they are “in the wrong body” and had been wrongly “assigned ___ at birth” is a quasi-religious anti-nature, anti-science personal justification for failing to accept reality. One aspect of that reality might be the arbitrary standards of masculinity and femininity that any society imposes; recognizing them as such (arbitrary and social, not natural and unwavering) might be a first step toward unhappy people learning to love themselves and not blaming some social construct (or their natural selves for not fitting into those constructs) for their issues.
Even accepting that everything you say is absolutely true (not that I think you are lying, Laura, but that I and others might have different perceptions) isn’t transitioning best an individual decision rather than one made for someone by society or government? I ultimately came to believe in a women’s right to abortion because I believe that no one can best understand the circumstances of each individual as well as they can. Yes, some might make a choice they later regret but most people when trusted choose the better way towards happiness for themselves (yes, perhaps in part because they have already walked down a path and they become committed to its rightness) when the other option is a faceless bureaucracy choosing for them. Wouldn’t that situation be the same with transitioning?
Do you honestly believe the average 10 year old is capable of fully understanding the ramifications of chemical or surgical transitioning?
What is the rational for allowing surgical rearranging of children’s genitals or cutting off their breasts but not allowing minors to get tattooed, with or without parental approval?
Is it possible this came about because gender activists were quietly pushing their agenda for YEARS before the general public knew what was going on and had the opportunity to be part of a policy discussion about what was appropriate?
It’s too late to put the genie back in the bottle but it’s not too late to put up guardrails to protect the rights of ALL children and parents instead of having public policy dictated by agenda driven activists.
Ironically, in many cases the same radical activists who think children should be able to make permanent life-altering decisions are in the forefront of those who claim “youth” up to age 25 shouldn’t be held accountable for murder, rape and robbery because their brains are still developing.
You can’t have it both ways!
Kym, there’s a big difference between an adult making such a decision and a teenager or child doing so. True, the age of 18 is somewhat arbitrary, but there does have to be a line somewhere, so going along with the cut-off for age of “majority” that’s most widely accepted is probably as good a choice as any.
Kids can make truly life-altering, if not extremely damaging, decisions now, egged on by popular culture. Where a generation ago they wouldn’t have considered it even if they had a very strong dysphoria, because of the stigma, nowadays it’s the opposite. The stigma is on the cis kids. It really is– i don’t need to inundate you with links and youtube interviews to prove this. Transgenderism and transsexuality are very much the adolescent fad of the past half-decade, and like all such crazes, sweep up many confused innocents.
And i am not prejudiced against the confused individuals themselves– in fact, i only have sympathy for their very real victimhood in a wave that i believe is orchestrated on the highest levels (or lowest, depending upon if you’re looking at money & power or on baseness of motives) by greedy capitalists of the most rank and ruthless stripe, as well as agents of the right seeking to tear apart the left… how could i have anything but sympathy for average confused teenagers caught up in these influences.
But i do feel it a duty to counter that propaganda.
(And i also understand that no matter how horrible the motives of those profiting from this, the majority of the adult supporters of “gender-affirming care” are actually tender-hearted do-gooders, committed, they believe, to all the good tenets of progressivism, and who strongly believe themselves to be woke and the questioners to be hateful. So don’t get me wrong, i know: the typical supporters of trans rights for kids believe themselves to be everything lofty, enlightened, tolerant, accepting, and supportive of mental health.)
Agree with most of what you say but please stop misusing the language – there is no such thing as a “cis” kid – this is an activist driven invention intended to demean and undermine non-trans children – who are NOT “cisgender” males or females – but simply and accurately boys and girls.
I’m also not sure I agree with your interpretation that the majority of the supporters of “gender affirming care” are tender hearted do gooders – but if that’s true it’s only because they don’t understand the psychic and physical violence that’s being inflicted on children.
I believe the agenda driven activists and attention seekers pushing this are truly evil people trying to dissolve norms of family structure and social cohesion.
And i agree with you. “Cis” is a made-up word (like all, i know, but a recent one) meant to replace the clarity that its absence represented: a boy being a boy, and a girl, a girl– no matter who turns them on or what they look like or like to do.
Around here, liberals for whom the worst that could ever occur is a questioning or critical thought or word, that is, an “unkindness,” abound. Unfortunately, although i still do believe they are generally tender-hearted do-gooders, i will admit that that doesn’t stop them from becoming full-on haters if anyone challenges or questions their virtue. The wrath and zeal of the righteous!
And they could never wrap their heads around the motives of the “agenda-driven activists and attention seekers…” It would be such a cognitive dissonance for them to fully understand what’s going on that they dismiss the very existence of such strategists. I know, that’s just about as bad as going along with it, to refuse to look at it. But I give them a half-hearted pass for at least trying to be helpful, rather than bent on the destruction of everything.
“The wrath and zeal of the righteous.” LOL!
I agree 100% with everything you say here at least up until you’re giving out “half-hearted passes” – but you’ve nailed the unwillingness/inability for do gooder minded people to see that others motives may not be so altruistic.
It seems society has developed an ethic that it’s bad form to call anyone out for bad behavior – that we need only think good thoughts and all will be right in the world – or at least in OUR world.
Unfortunately that is not true. A lot of people in pain, mental or physical, make terrible choices looking for relief. Suicide being the ultimate choice to get rid if pain.
Adolescents are especially prone to outside influence but anyone in a stressful place can grab at any change that seems to offer relief. Something small like deciding to call themselves by a different name may seem significant. Divorce after an affair, having children to save a marriage, taking drugs, etc etc etc. The world is full of bad choice. Some of which are not reversible. And surgery and taking hormones are high on the list of things not easily reversed. Bodies are not something to gamble. If in fact there issues causing stress are not the very, very small group of indeterminate sexual biology, the source of distress and mental conflict will not be resolved by a surgical fix.
“Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group«
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043071/
“This observational study showed an increased mortality risk in transgender people using hormone treatment, regardless of treatment type. This increased mortality risk did not decrease over time. The cause-specific mortality risk because of lung cancer, cardiovascular disease, HIV-related disease, and suicide gives no indication to a specific effect of hormone treatment, but indicates that monitoring, optimising, and, if necessary, treating medical morbidities and lifestyle factors remain important in transgender health care.”
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(21)00185-6/abstract
Kym,
In regards to transitioning/abortion, (in adolescence/adolescents)…
…”isn’t transitioning, [abortion], best an individual decision rather than one made for someone by society or government, [AND/OR, “parents/guardians”]?”
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How many decisions concerning transitioning/abortion are made and/or significantly influenced by the parents, instead of the individual minor or adolescent involved, and how many of those kinds of “decisions” that the individual doesn’t really get a say in at all, and/or, the final say in, do those individuals end up regretting…???
Those would be the kinds of decisions, that are NOT really being legally made by the individual, themselves, with informed consent, at a mature enough, appropriate age, that we should be trying to avoid and prevent most, IMO…
That got to be more important than Democrats regulating non-intoxicating hemp products by prohibiting those non intoxicating hemp products being sold to anyone under 21…
(Why on Earth would a non intoxicating product need to be regulated, and/or, limited to those over 21, at all…???… …That’s just absolute silliness…)
The Democrats seem to have their priorities, all mixed up, and clearly, WAY out of order…
Gender altering/affirming hormones and/or surgeries for minors, are “AOK” and fully supported…
Hemp lipstick, gummies, etc., with THC, or hemp intoxicants, for minors, “NO WAY, JOSE/JOSEY”…!!!???
It makes no sense…
I do know 2. They were not any happier, just cut up. But thank you for sharing a true story. I’m very happy for your friend. Honestly thank you for bucking the tide in this comment section. Was it recently for them or years ago? I think somebody can be initially happy but that can wear off. Same thing other way. I think your friend is a rare story but still significant. Most people commenting here we are concerned about children making these decisions, not adults.
I actually have 3 close friends who have transitioned, years ago. They are very happy, living a productive life, and moving up the social ladder. They good, healthy relationships too. I know no-one, and they have known no one in the trans community who regrets their post-op decisions.
I do believe that some people might grasp at the idea of transitioning as a panacea for ‘curing’ themselves. But that is why it is required that patients receive mandatory counseling before they are given a prescription to testosterone or HRT.
Stop molesting children. Let them grow up before doing something stupid you can’t change.
Good luck California. Glad I left. I am a live and let live kind of person, if you want to do this at 18 years old, be my guest. That said, under 18 is a bit crazy. Politics is crazy, I’ll go hang out in the woods, thanks. Hard pass.