Parking Lot Hours Restricted in Mount Shasta Parking Lot

Press release from the Shasta-Trinity National Forest Service:

Shasta-Trinity National Forest [photo from fs.usda.gov]

Shasta-Trinity National Forest [photo from fs.usda.gov]

The Shasta-Trinity National Forest is restricting parking in the Upper Ski Bowl Parking Lot in the Panther Meadows area on Mount Shasta to begin on August 27, 2024. Parking in this area is prohibited from 12:00 am to 6:00 am.

Panther Meadows is a popular site and sacred to many local Native American nations. This prohibition is in place to prevent overnight camping in the lot to protect the resources and sensitive species of Panther Meadows.

Camping is available at the Panther Meadow Campground. Overnight parking is available at the Lower Ski Bowl Parking lot for up to 3 nights and at the South Gate Trailhead parking area for up to 7 nights.

For more information, please contact the Mount Shasta Ranger Station during normal business hours at 530-926-4511. Updates will be available on the Shasta-Trinity National Forest Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/ShastaTrinityNF/.

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Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
1 year ago

sacred to many local Native American nations. “

Gee, I wish other folks could have sacred places.

Wabbajack
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Wabbajack
1 year ago

We honor land ownership, where anything you own can be as sacred as you want it to be. However, if someone murdered your family and stole your land, what does that leave you with? You can still revere the place but someone can tell you you don’t belong there for any reason at all.

Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
1 year ago
Reply to  Wabbajack

Murdered my family? How far back to you want to go? I do respect the indigenous population. Many of my relatives are indigenous. I had my DNA tested with hopes of finding native blood. But…. no.

Many of my family have been murdered.

Public parks are supposed to be for the public.

Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
1 year ago

Sheriff Joseph E. Branscomb DeKalb County Sheriff’s Office, Missouri
End of Watch Monday, July 31, 1865
https://www.odmp.org/officer/2193-sheriff-joseph-e-branscomb

Wabbajack
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Wabbajack
1 year ago

I don’t disagree that all races have been brutalized over the years. Read “Paddy’s Lament” for an eye-opening account of the Irish during the Potato Famine.

Nor am I arguing any one race deserves more than any other. But if the former stewards of this land want to consider parts of it sacred, let’s allow them that. As far as restricting uses of public lands goes, try going to a beach in New England. And sometimes you need to limit camping due to abuse by the public. Is that merited in this case? I have no idea, but if I want the least restrictions I will backpack into a wilderness area.

No arguments against you Ernie, I appreciate your contributions here, just want to offer some perspective.

Yabut
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Yabut
1 year ago
Reply to  Wabbajack

“We?” There is no “we” in much of anything these days. Just “Me.” And every land is stolen land. No one ever asked if land belonged anyone. If no one was there to defend it, it was taken. If someone was there to defend it, it was fought over. There is no virtue involved in carving out territory. Just necessity.

Sometimes, the oblivious just assume they have rights.
In fact Spain’s King simply signed a document saying he owned all the land surrounding the Pacific. Even though they had no idea what the Pacific encompassed.

The Prophet Mohammed saw the invitation to Medina to be an invitation to take everything. Which pretty much is what happen to the Eastern Roman Empire known as Byzantium. The Mongols from what is now China were the movers and shakers in the that put a limit on the Islamic expansion. Whew.

The first massacre in what became the US was actually pre European in Crow Creek South Dakota of about 400 men women and children. The next was Napituca Massacre Florida, in which De Soto killed 200 hundred. The next was
Mabila Massacre in Alabama where De Soto repeated the Florida one. Now out east, the first one was where the Powhatans invited European colonists to trade then killed most of them. Then the European governor sent troops to the closest Powhatan village and killed a couple of dozen men, women and children. Not to be out done, the Powhatan then did the old invite-them-to-trade trick and killed about 600 in Jamestown. And that is pretty much the script for centuries. With the Pamunkey Peace Talks massacre being especially a pretty low point.

Most all human migration is the result of either greed or fear or sheer restlessness. All of us -the real “we”- are their descendants. No innocents to be found anywhere. From time immemorial…

Wabbajck
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Wabbajck
1 year ago
Reply to  Yabut

Well if you want to exclusively devote some land to a particular use, you must own it, as defined by our real estate system, unless you can convince our government to help you carve out an exception. If you step foot on someone else’s land, as defined by that system, the owner can call the cops and you could be arrested if you refuse to leave.

So, while land ownership may be meaningless from a philosophical perspective, it is very real when it comes to who can do what and where in this society. And yes, all humans are greedy, lazy, and violent by nature, but it’s what we do with those instincts that defines us as humans and charts our collective path forward.

Yabut
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Yabut
1 year ago
Reply to  Wabbajck

“Lord Dorwin, gentlemen, in five days of discussion didn’t say one damned thing, and said it so that you never noticed.”
Issac Asimov’s Foundation

spamned
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spamned
1 year ago

spoken like a white man

a colonizer, iow

Yabut
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Yabut
1 year ago
Reply to  spamned

Yeah- so do you.

spamned
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spamned
1 year ago

Mt. Shasta is NOT the place to go camping, as I recently found out…

Panther Meadows has what? 3 campsites?

The traffic at all hours was surprising to me.

Two Dogs
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Two Dogs
1 year ago

So if the land hadn’t been “stolen”, the parking lot would be open from twelve to six?