Southern Humboldt Man’s Tiny Home Seized and No One Will Explain Where It Is

Shawn Lloyd at his camp just north of Garberville.

Shawn Lloyd at his camp just north of Garberville. [Photo by Nichole Norris]

After an attack on a local houseless man, Shawn Lloyd, on August 22, 2022 left him with a head injury needing five staples, he said his friend donated a tiny home to help keep him safe and protected. But, less than a month later, Caltrans removed the home from state property near Hwy 101 north of Garberville where he had placed it and, even though they promised him three months to retrieve it, the house disappeared and no one is telling him where it is.

“They basically stole my tiny home and gave it to someone else,” Lloyd alleges, adding, “I would go to jail if I did the same thing.”

Backstory

Thirty-nine-year-old Shawn Lloyd grew up in Tacoma, Washington along with his three siblings. According to Lloyd, his mother, Shawn Harris, instilled strong values in her children, encouraging them to get degrees to make the best lives for themselves. Instead of his last years of high school, Lloyd participated in an early college program called Fresh Start,” and then finished his degree at Washington State University.

Ms. Harris said, “I’m not sure why he is homeless, Shawn has a BA in communications and a Minor in English. He is quite intelligent.”

Lloyd worked as a pharmacy assistant, in sales, and aspired to be an elevator technician, but none of these panned out, she said. Still Lloyd was optimistic until it became a challenge to maintain regular, living-wage employment, Ms. Harris explained. She attributed her son’s employment struggles to student loan debt (which can be removed from a paycheck), a trauma endured by their whole family, in addition to his getting caught up in the criminal justice system “unjustly” early on in life after “he was the victim of a crime.”

This run-in with law enforcement, subsequently derailed his employment opportunities Harris explained, adding, “He’d call me sometimes upset saying he wanted to work hard to make a better life for himself and his family, but he’d tell me – ‘Ma, I just can’t find a decent paying job.’”
Lloyd has since made do working wherever he can doing odd jobs, as a handyman and general laborer in the Emerald Triangle for ten years, five in Southern Humboldt. Since August 2021, he has been camping on public land off Redwood Drive, about two hundred feet away from the 101 freeway in Garberville, close to the Caltrans maintenance yard, the Renner station, and PG&E.

Screenshot of Shawn Lloyd’s camp coordinates

The blue dot shows where Shawn Lloyd’s camp lies to the west of Hwy 101 and to the east of Redwood Drive just north of  Alderpoint Road.

Lloyd’s camp is about two miles away from the location where another homeless man was found hanging from a tree last week. Reporter Kelly Lincoln interviewed District Two Supervisor Bushnell for KMUD News about the death, which was attributed to the weather according to a fellow unhoused friend (in part one of Lincoln’s series).

Options are scarce to avoid the elements but Lloyd said he did his best to survive while complying with the laws as he understood them. He was under the impression that because the land was public, he had the right to camp there. The land also wasn’t posted with ‘No Trespassing’ signs, and considering the Martin v Boise court case, Lloyd claimed, “They cannot criminalize homeless people unless there are adequate shelter facilities and there isn’t any here.”

When Lloyd began camping at this location he said he removed trash, needles, and claimed law enforcement was so impressed they complimented his clean up efforts.

Lloyd explained, “Some people that camp out here don’t take care of their space the way they should, but my Mama taught me to keep my space clean… When I got here I was disappointed, the place was filthy…so I cleaned it up.”

When this reporter asked Lloyd how many times he had interactions with the police since camping there, he laughed hysterically as if the question was a joke. Lloyd revealed police visit his camp so often that he lost track, estimating, “at least once a month… maybe 20-30 times since I have been here.”

However, Lloyd said, “No law enforcement agency has said anything to myself or my neighbors about camping here [before September 23, 2022].”

Caltrans posted a notice in June 2022 saying those there had to leave, though no deadline was specified at that time.

“They claimed in the notice [that we] were illegally camping and defecating on [the] property,” he said.

Lloyd’s “Notice to Vacate Illegal Campsite,” posted by Caltrans in the summer of 2022

“Notice to Vacate Illegal Campsite,” posted by Caltrans in the summer of 2022

Lloyd argued the allegations listed by Caltrans were meritless. For example Lloyd disputes that anyone was defecating at his camp, saying, “We have two portapotties by the Renner right there, we are not defecating on the property… and we work with Eel River Clean up to pick up trash.”

Machete Attack

Months passed since the unsigned Caltrans notices were posted in June 2022.

On August 22, 2022, Lloyd was approached by an unwelcome visitor at his neighbors’ camp that he was looking after while they were away. Lloyd asked the intruder why they were there and offered to call his neighbor to confirm they had permission to be at their camp. When Lloyd turned away, he says he was attacked from behind with what he calls a “machete” causing a severe head injury. [Note: Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office Samatha Kargas–-see below–-described the weapon as a “hatchet.”]

Lloyd explained, “I was just making sure my neighbors’ place was safe in his absence, as he would do for me, and unfortunately some idiot with a hot head who was upset for whatever reason, hit me in the head with a machete and I had to get five staples…above my left ear towards the back of my head.”

Lloyd told us he saw a California Highway Patrol officer as he walked past with a head wound to get emergency care. He claimed, “When I was walking to the hospital, there was an officer parked at one of the turnouts and he stopped me to ask what was going on. After explaining what just happened, I continued walking to the hospital where I was treated for my head injury…The police had been contacted again at the hospital, but I don’t think any charges were filed, and I haven’t heard anything from them since.”

Lloyd said the officer’s lack of regard for his head injury and need for medical attention was “cold-blooded.”

When asked, CHP did not comment on this alleged first interaction between Lloyd and the officer after the incident.

Lloyd knew the name of the attacker and told law enforcement he said, though he believes the perpetrator faced no consequences.

We reached out to Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office via email for comment on the this incident and Samantha Kargas responded via email, saying,

“A deputy responded to Jerald Phelps ER on August 22, 2022 at 4:34 p.m. after receiving a report of a patient who was possibly assaulted with a hatchet. Deputies made contact with the victim who declined to make a report/press charges. Due to the victim declining to press charges, no case was taken… No further action was taken.”

We then inquired if it was standard policy to not file charges when someone is attacked with a weapon and subsequently suffers a severe head injury.

Kargeas replied, writing,

It really boils down to how cooperative the victim is, if the felony occurred in the presence of a deputy, or if there is sufficient probable cause that a felony has occurred. In this specific case, the victim was uncooperative and would not give the deputies any information. The only report of a … possible assault was secondhand through the hospital notifying the deputy. Based upon the totality of circumstances, including the victim declining to participate in the investigation or pursue charges, no further action was taken. This is covered under PC [836-837].

Lloyd had a head injury at the time, but recalls that when police asked if he wanted to press charges he just “shrugged and said nothing,” unconvinced that filing charges would help.

However, Lloyd argued there was a notable discrepancy in police treatment compared to his own experiences, saying to this reporter during a site visit (extended interview here),

If I hit someone in the head with a machete, [the police] are going to come talk to Shawn Lloyd. They’re going to come arrest me. It doesn’t matter what that person says, if they don’t pursue [charges, police] will anyway, and I’m definitely going to jail no matter what… It’s a deadly weapon. It’s like shooting someone with a gun, they are going to find out who fired the gun— that’s their job.

In December, when we asked the CHP for confirmation that this happened, they referred us to their legal department

Saved by a Tiny Home

As a direct result of the machete incident, Lloyd’s friend gifted him a tiny home that sat on four tires for transportation purposes, two of which Lloyd removed immediately after placing it at his campsite in order to level his new home.

Screenshot of video when the tiny home was removed by Caltrans, video by Shawn Lloyd

Screenshot of video taken by Shawn Lloyd showing when the tiny home was removed by Caltrans.

Lloyd explained how he acquired the home from his friend, saying, “[The tiny home] was just sitting on his property. After the incident he didn’t want me to be outside any longer. Not only because of the incident but also because the tiny home was insulated so I would be warmer, it had double paned windows and a wood stove for heat so I wouldn’t be buying propane constantly. It had a door that locked so I could store my personal property and lessen the chance of it being stolen. It was professionally roofed so I would be protected from the rain… it had everything other than siding and carpet, it was professionally built.”

Without his tiny home, Lloyd has to run a propane heater almost 24/7 during the winter just to stay alive “which is very flammable, and so a high fire risk to the community,” he explained.

It’s expensive to be homeless and/or poor. For example, Lloyd’s current living space, a tent, is tarped and covered but still leaks, necessitating extra costs and trips to the laundromat as well. He estimates it costs $60 each trip just to stay clean and dry.

January 2023 weather report for Shawn Lloyd’s camp location, from wunderground.com

January 2023 weather report for Shawn Lloyd’s camp location, from wunderground.com

“It’s really cold in the winter months and wet,” Lloyd explained in January. “We’ve had a few below freezing nights this winter already [and snow recently]…Water is seeping into my tent. I go to the laundromat to wash my clothes, but they get wet from the condensation and I have to wash them again…No matter how hard I try to stay dry, half my bed is wet. It’s unfortunate, but this is where I live right now.”

The tiny home (briefly) provided Lloyd protection from the elements, safety from people with weapons, and also from wildlife. Lloyd explained his camp is called “the lion’s den” because of the prominence of bobcats and other wildlife that visit, adding, “I had a bear in my tent a few months back, so the safety difference [was] huge.”

Lloyd said the tiny home is priceless to him personally, but estimated the cost of purchasing a home like his would be about “$5,000 to maybe $9,000,” a substantial amount of money for someone who has no home.

On Friday, September 23, 2022, Lloyd’s new world came crashing down, when he was given a notice by Caltrans to vacate in three days and remove his tiny home the following Monday morning by 10 a.m.

Lloyd said, “After [the CHP and Caltrans] told me I had to move [the tiny home September 23] they proceeded to put two cement barriers…behind my camp, blocking me from getting my tiny home out of there.”

Shawn Lloyd, looking out on the 101 freeway beside the concrete barriers he said Caltrans put up Sept. 23 preventing him from removing his tiny home after being given three days to do so. [Photo by Nichole Norris]

Shawn Lloyd, looking out on the 101 freeway beside the concrete barriers he said Caltrans put up Sept. 23 preventing him from removing his tiny home after being given three days to do so. [Photo by Nichole Norris]

Those concrete barriers were still there during a site visit in January 2023. The only other way to remove the tiny home would be using steep, narrow trails through a dense forest, crossing private property, to get to Redwood Drive.

According to Lloyd on September 23, a CHP officer accompanied by two Caltrans employees handed him the notice that said he was unlawfully camping.

Notice to vacate illegal campsite delivered by Caltrans and CHP and given to Lloyd Sept. 23

Notice to vacate illegal campsite delivered by Caltrans and CHP and given to Shawn Lloyd September 23

According to Officer Clevenger from the Garberville CHP Sub Station, the CHP officers joined Caltrans that day “for security” though they were “not the lead agency”.

In our initial interview, Officer Clevenger described the day the tiny home was removed, saying, “On September 26… we had an officer providing security for Caltrans. They were doing a homeless encampment clean up. The CHP just provides security for Caltrans while Caltrans performs their duties”

Officer Clevenger explained that prior to the clean ups, Caltrans sometimes “requests CHP to provide security because it’s on the side of the highway, you never know if someone is in the woods. We are just there to assist them and do so at their request…Caltrans typically gives a three day notice to leave.”

Tiny Home Removed: Is Comfort the Crime?

On Monday, September 26, Caltrans and CHP arrived at 10 a.m. to remove Lloyd’s home, alongside a Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) outreach worker.

The interaction was documented in two ten minute videos posted on YouTube by  Lloyd, who set up his phone, and told CHP and Caltrans he “would be recording for my protection and theirs.”

Lloyd said the interaction made him extremely concerned for his safety because, “I’ve had negative experiences with police in the past including this one.” He added, “They started to encroach upon me–six CHP officers were walking towards me all at once from all directions. I started backing up and walking away. I didn’t understand why they were approaching me… in an aggressive way with guns and tasers and the like. I [was] just by myself on public land. I didn’t have any weapons, or look like I had weapons.” [Note: while the officers were equipped with weapons, they did not draw them.”

Lloyd was noticeably distressed initially in the clip when officers were approaching him, particularly in part one. Lloyd can be heard saying, “Don’t approach me. Please keep your distance.”

The audio of the CHP is impossible to hear in some places due to the distance from the camera as Lloyd moves backwards saying that he was “in fear for his safety.”

In part one, Minute Marker 3:20, an officer tells Lloyd, “(Inaudible) we’re going to get a warrant for your arrest for trespassing and failure to obey law enforcement.”

Lloyd claimed he was given one and a half hours to remove his belongings the day of the tiny home removal, so he was not able to grab everything though he had been given notice three days earlier. Lloyd alleges Caltrans started to move his belongings around, as CHP was telling him he was not allowed to go back to the tiny home camp area to grab his stuff or he would be arrested for trespassing.

Lloyd said they threatened to throw his stuff away if he did not comply, and also claims CHP told him that if he did not cooperate with what he felt was an unlawful search of his person, “the sergeant threatened to put a warrant out for my arrest.”

In part two of the clip, Lloyd sets his phone down to retrieve what he could in compliance with their orders, then a CHP officer appears to knock over Lloyd’s phone once, possibly twice, during the tiny home removal.

Photo of Lloyd’s tent and campsite by Nichole Norris

Shawn Lloyd’s tent and campsite this winter after the home was removed. [Photo by Nichole Norris]

According to Lloyd, Caltrans didn’t just take his tiny home, but also took his tools, surveillance system (he purchased one after the machete incident for protection), and his 8000 watt generator.

Lloyd claimed that no effort was made to protect his belongings “When I picked up the generator, it was outside the Caltrans building in front, smashed up and rusted,” he said. “It wasn’t covered by any tarps…It looked like it was a victim of the elements.”

CHP Officer Clevenger explained, “As far as the state, we are here for the safety, security and service of the people…Shawn Lloyd was still in the area after the posting for trespassing. He was cited and released to appear in court for trespassing and evading police officers.”

Lloyd feels his rights have been violated by the same officers he said “did not serve and protect” him. Lloyd stated on local  Attorney Eugene Denson’s KMUD radio show, “The Rights Organization,” “The CHP, if anything, should be helping me here telling Caltrans to quit harassing and intimidating me, but no, they joined the intimidation party, and threatened me with jail.”

Lloyd reflected on the incident, writing, “I was cited and released after the initial attempt by CHP officers to unlawfully arrest me for trespassing on public land (the charge itself is an oxymoron). You can’t trespass on public land when you are sleeping outside because there are no adequate shelter facilities (see Martin v. Boise 2018).”

The 2018 Martin v Boise decision, according to Lexusnexus’s law school case brief determined in summary, “An ordinance violates the Eighth Amendment insofar as it imposes criminal sanctions against homeless individuals for sleeping outdoors, on public property, when no alternative shelter is available to them…The Court held that the two city ordinances — a disorderly conduct ordinance and a camping ordinance, which criminalized sleeping outside on public property, whether bare or with a blanket or other basic bedding — violated the Eighth Amendment insofar as it imposed criminal sanctions against homeless individuals for sleeping outdoors, on public property, when no alternative shelter was available.” 

It is unclear if this case has any impact on Mr. Lloyd’s situation. We asked Caltrans, CHP, and Cal ICH and received no response.

Lloyd said he felt the action was illogical–the tiny home was more aesthetically appealing than a tent, it had a smaller footprint, and it was safer for him and for fire purposes. Was the issue for Caltrans his comfort? Lloyd said he was allowed to stay camping in the same spot, indicating to him that, “the real problem wasn’t my camping here, the problem for them was that I have a tiny home here.” He added, “I don’t know why [my having the basics] would bother anybody.”

Lloyd explained his current tent is in the same spot his tiny home once stood and said, “They are ok with the tent for some reason, but they don’t want me to be able to stay warm, and protected from the elements, animals, and safe from other people…The tiny home is 14 x 8. [ It] is smaller than the tent I’m in now.”

Photo of Lloyd at his camp where the trees were cut by Caltrans, by Nichole Norris

Shawn Lloyd at his camp where the trees were cut by Caltrans. [Photo by Nichole Norris]

Lloyd said his campsite was graded and left uneven and appeared to have “been through a natural disaster” after Caltrans left with his tiny home, Lloyd explained, “[Caltrans] cut down approximately six live trees around the area I was camping, they dug up the ground with an excavator, left live trees laying all over the property. It looked like a tornado or earthquake came through the property after they left. I’m assuming they did this so I would not come back.”

Lloyd cleaned up the mess left after the tiny home removal, flattened some areas, made steps for safety, created ditches to prevent rain runoff accumulating in his tent, and he has been camping at the same location, with no issues from Caltrans since September.

Starting in mid-December, we reached out to several Caltrans officials and employees (including with public records requests) to obtain more information about the tiny home removal and the surrounding incidents, and are still waiting.

Caltrans released the following statement in the meantime;

Caltrans is responsible for the state’s transportation network, including protecting and maintaining the highway infrastructure. In situations where people experiencing homelessness are sheltering along the state right-of-way, Caltrans assesses the encampment site for immediate threats to safety and essential infrastructure. Threats may include modifications to structures that increase the risk of collapse; encampments that physically block traffic or pathways and put people in the encampments, the traveling public, and workers at risk of imminent danger; and the high probability of fires that can cause serious damage to highway infrastructure like overpasses that may result in deaths or serious injury to encamped individuals, the traveling public, and nearby residents.

When Caltrans prepares to remove an encampment that presents a threat to infrastructure or people, Caltrans’ Encampment Coordinators work to notify social service providers of the estimated closure time and date so that those providers can conduct outreach to connect people experiencing homelessness with essential services and available shelter or housing options. Caltrans also provides a notice posted at encampment sites at least 48 hours in advance of any encampment removal, depending on location and risk. People experiencing homelessness are asked to take their belongings and are notified that personal belongings of apparent value left behind will be brought to a nearby Caltrans maintenance yard for storage and later retrieval. Items of value are carefully bagged and transported by a contractor.

Caltrans partners with nonprofits and local government agencies including the County of Humboldt, the Humboldt Housing and Homeless Coalition, the Eureka Rescue Mission, the Arcata House/Annex, and Humboldt County Health and Human Services, which are funded, trained, and equipped to help people encamping on the state right-of-way to find alternative placement for shelter and/or housing. Caltrans is also a member of Cal ICH, which sets the state’s homelessness policy and coordinates across state agencies.

We asked Caltrans what risks were posed by the tiny home, what sort of inspection was done to determine said risks, how removing a tiny home aligns with the mission of Cal ICH to “prevent and end homelessness,” what services were offered beyond those Mr. Lloyd already has (Cal Fresh aka food stamps), if/why trees were cut and the land was graded, and if/why the tiny home was given away, in addition to various other follow up questions.

Caltrans replied via email, saying our request for information “[did] not comply with [California Public Records Act] CPRA,” adding, “Thanks again for reaching out to Caltrans regarding your story. Our previous statement addresses many of the questions you have and we do not have any additional comments at this time.”

We then followed up via four formal records requests to Caltrans, but after seven days were asked for more than the ten days typically allowed to respond to records requests. When we submitted an additional formal records request on February 6, for three basic facts regarding 1. the whereabouts of the tiny home, 2. how to get it back and, 3. if it was not possible to return it to Mr. Lloyd, why not?

We received a response that directed us to the same Caltrans employee we initially reached out to in December, and stated, “There are no records responsive to your request. If you have questions, please contact District 1’s [Public Information Officer] for Humboldt County.”

We then asked District 1’s Public Information Officer the same three questions about the tiny home’s location and how to retrieve it on February 14 via phone, and reminded them we requested this February 15, though we were not given a response in time for publishing. However, we were informed our records requests could take about four months to respond to.

Caltrans is a “Member” of The California Interagency Council on Homelessness (Cal ICH)

Caltrans statement said they were “a member of Cal ICH,” which “sets the state’s homelessness policy and coordinates across state agencies.”

According to their website, “The California Interagency Council on Homelessness (Cal ICH) was created by SB 1380 in 2017 as the Homeless Coordinating and Financing Council to oversee the implementation of Housing First policies, guidelines, and regulations to reduce the prevalence and duration of homelessness in California.”

Screenshot of the Five Action Areas identified by Cal ICH.

Screenshot of the Cal ICH website featuring their action areas to accomplish their mission to reduce and end homelessness in California.

According to Law Insider, the Housing First model used by Cal ICH] means “a particular housing approach that moves the homeless individual or household immediately from the streets or homeless shelters to their own apartments instead of using intermediate levels of housing such as transitional housing programs and then providing Supportive Services in a manner that emphasizes a non-coercive approach…means the evidence-based model that uses housing as a tool, rather than a reward.”

The Cal ICH mission is to prevent and end homelessness in the state. The Action plan detailed the five action areas to accomplish their mission, and says,

“This Action Plan has been driven by a vision of a future in which homelessness in California is rare, because it is prevented whenever possible; brief, ended quickly whenever it does occur… and [is] a one-time experience, ended successfully the first time, so that no Californians experience homelessness repeatedly.”

We reached out to Russ Heimerich, the Deputy Secretary of Communications for Cal ICH who was made aware of Mr. Lloyd’s case, though was unable to make specific comments.

Though, Heimerich did outline their authority over, and the relationship between Caltrans and Cal ICH, saying,

“Cal ICH does not have any real authority over any other state dept., so we don’t put out guidance or directives to other depts. We have, in the past, discussed best practices with Caltrans and other departments to resolve encampments, but we don’t issue any directives to them, so all of your questions need to go back to Caltrans headquarters.”

Heimerich connected us with headquarters, but we were told they would need more time with our request for comment from the department as well. We received no response before publishing.

When we asked Heimerich what was considered “best practices” for Cal ICH and how Caltrans was made aware of said practices, he explained,

We’ve offered training in resolving homeless encampments in the past and those are in line essentially with what we have put in our best practices resolutions…Our recommendation is to always make it people centered… The way to deal with individuals experiencing homelessness in encampments, is to provide them with the housing and services they need to not only remove them from the encampments but provide an environment where they don’t need to go back to an encampment.

Photo of Shawn and Molly at their tent camp after the tiny home and tree removal by Caltrans

Shawn Lloyd and his dog, Molly, at their tent camp after the tiny home and tree removal by Caltrans. [Phot by Nichole Norris]

Lloyd said there were no “housing and services” offered to “remove [him] from the encampment [or] provide an environment where [he didn’t ] need to go back.”

The other agencies listed in Caltrans statement were not onsite and the only “services” offered were from a DHHS outreach worker according to Lloyd (and seen in the clips).

We asked DHHS what services were offered to Mr. Lloyd September 26, and to people in his situation, they wrote they could not specifically respond to Mr. Lloyd’s case, but that,

Generally, when we are outreaching to people in the situation you described, we find out what their needs are and if they would like us to connect them to services. Depending on the situation, we provide them with information on low-income housing and how to apply to replace needed personal documents—birth certificate, social security card, etc. We also assist them in applying for Medi-Cal and CalFresh, see what other services they may be eligible to and get them connected to Behavioral Health services if applicable.

Mr. Lloyd said the DHHS outreach worker (discussion begins around minute marker 6) was kind, but ineffective at their mission because he already has Calfresh, there is no shelter available in Southern Humboldt or to him because he has a dog, and he said no other alternative housing services or any means to end his homelessness was offered.

Lloyd expressed the primary issue to his homelessness was his home getting towed away during his interaction with DHHS, and the police presence, which he felt was distressing, unlawful, and unnecessary.

However the DHHS outreach worker said in the clip she had no authority over CHP, telling Lloyd she couldn’t ask them to leave as he requested, adding, “That’s not in my power, they’re doing their thing, we’re doing our thing… I’m not in a position to help [with the officers being there].”

Arrested for a Failure to Appear in Court, After Being Cited During Tiny Home Removal

On September 26, the same day Mr. Lloyd’s tiny home was taken, CHP Officer Clevenger confirmed, “He was cited and released to appear in court for trespassing and evading police officers.”

However Lloyd accidentally missed his court date. He explained, “I mistakenly confused my court date on November 16th thinking it was the 22nd instead, and by the time I figured out it was on the 16th it was the day before Thanksgiving and the court was closed. I couldn’t reschedule the hearing until later. My intention was to call the court clerk and resolve the matter, but one of the CHP officers present on September 26th just happened to be at my car at 9 am when I just returned from my holiday trip. Then they arrested me for missing court before I could contact the court clerk.”

Mr. Lloyd claimed that while checking into custody he overheard one “more senior officer” say to the “rookie officer” who arrested him that it was a “bullshit warrant” and Mr. Lloyd should not have been taken to jail for not appearing in court.

According to Mr. Lloyd, the officers at the jail “had to school the CHP officer on why you don’t bring people in on [a failure to appear] warrant…It’s a cite and release offense.” An arrest in Southern Humboldt takes the officer off the streets for a multiple hours as there are no jail facilities and the prisoner has to be transported to Eureka over an hour’s drive away. After filling out paperwork and completing the return trip, it isn’t uncommon for half a day to be expended by the officer.

Shawn Lloyd said he was immediately released from the county jail within an hour, and left in Eureka to get back to his camp about 67 miles away, on foot.

Coincidentally Mr. Lloyd actually wrote a letter to the editor to our news site on August 9, 2022 (right before he suffered a head injury), expressing he had issues with the hours and inaccessibility of the court clerk’s office due to the courthouses distance from his home.

Tiny Home Vanishes From Caltrans Maintenance Yard

A Caltrans worker told Lloyd they would hold the tiny home for 91 days in the beginning of part two of Mr. Lloyd’s video of the tiny home removal, giving him until December 26, 2022 to retrieve his home. This is stated on the notice to vacate as well.

According to Lloyd, Caltrans said “I had to contact CHP and arrange for them to meet me at the Caltrans yard in order to release my tiny home…I don’t understand why I would have to have law enforcement there, this is not a traffic related incident and retrieving my property doesn’t pose a danger to anyone.”

Lloyd explained his camp had a direct view of the Caltrans maintenance yard where his tiny home was located. Around Day 45 he noticed his tiny home was no longer parked there. Lloyd said, “I never got the opportunity to move it after day 45.”

Lloyd immediately walked to the maintenance yard across the street from his camp to inquire about the tiny house location and, “Caltrans told me they let somebody come pick up my home,” Lloyd explained.

He asked why they gave away his home, and according to Lloyd, Caltrans allegedly told him, “We released it to the person who delivered it.”

“But how does Caltrans know who delivered it?” Lloyd asked, “That never came up in discussion, how would they know?… The guy who delivered the tiny home was just hired help who had a truck… The tiny home belongs to me though.”

(Extended interview with Shawn Lloyd at his campsite here, video by Nichole Norris who is trying to teach herself how to video report and edit, bear with me)

“I laugh because it’s so ridiculous,” he said. “According to my research, this is unclassified public land… where I am legally allowed to be. For Caltrans to hold [my tiny home] at their maintenance yard and then release it to somebody it doesn’t belong to in 45 days, after giving me 91….I’m confused and dumbfounded…They basically stole my tiny home and gave it to someone else. I would go to jail if I did the same thing.”

Lloyd claims Caltrans did not give him the name of the person who took the tiny home, his tools and surveillance system from their maintenance yard, nor discuss a way for him to retrieve his property. As detailed above, Caltrans did not reply to our questions about the property.

CHP Officer Clevenger said they know nothing about the tiny home’s current location, and reminded this reporter they were only there for security.

Alternatives? Solutions?

When asked about the prevalence of the camping on state land issue locally, CHP Officer Clevenger responded, “For our area we do have a certain number of people camping on the highways. We don’t experience as much of a problem as the metropolitan cities…We do have a small number of people camping on state property.”

PIT Count chart indicating 325 unhoused people were counted late January in 2022 in Southern Humboldt. For more information on the PIT Count click here

PIT Count chart indicating 325 unhoused people were counted late January in 2022 in Southern Humboldt. For more information on the PIT Count click here

According to the most recent Point in Time (PIT) count we can locate which is performed by about 160 volunteers, and conducted in late January every two years (except during COVID in 2020), 1,309 people struggled with houselessness in Humboldt County last year. The last report found 325 unhoused people in Southern Humboldt District Two.

Many housing rights advocates have long said the PIT process does not provide accurate results due to the timing, reliance on volunteers, location of campers, and lack of trust and/or willingness for the unhoused to speak with people oftentimes.

In a recent article called ‘Where do you want me to go?’ Tents, Trash, and Trauma in Eureka,” fellow RHBB reporter Ryan Hutson, spoke with Tiffany Laffoon, a member of the newly formed group HHEAL which says it offers, “Homeless Expertise And Leadership.” 

Laffoon laid out some of the PIT counts inadequacies in the article, saying,

The PIT count is taken during 1 single day every 2 years by counting the number of homeless people visible from roads or open public spaces. Many of our unhoused folks stay out of sight, off the beaten path much of the time. Furthermore, it is done in January when it is often cold and rainy and folks are even more likely to retreat out of sight.People living in their cars are also missing from the PIT count, but they are lining practically every street in Eureka.

Based on estimates from a number of direct service providers, the actual homeless population numbers are thought to be about twice as many as the most recent PIT count – over 3,000 people…And in direct service, we are seeing the numbers of folks seeking services grow every day. With all the millions of dollars being funneled into Humboldt County, the housing crisis is getting worse, not better. The actions we have been taking to address [it] are clearly not solutions.

Southern Humboldt Housing Opportunities does hold a “warming station” that operates from 12-4 p.m. every Tuesday at the Redway Baptist Church on Redway Drive currently, but there is no overnight shelter in Southern Humboldt. Though there are some options about sixty miles away in the County seat.

Brian Hall, the Director of Eureka Rescue Mission said he had forty-two beds available on February 6th, and, “I know Betty [Chinn] has something but we take the majority of homeless clients.”

Hall said during the month of September 2022 when Mr. Lloyd’s tiny home was removed; they had about 20 beds available, however he explained there are unfortunately no dogs allowed, which ruled this option out for Lloyd given he had to take care of Molly. The location is over 60 miles from Lloyd’s community, not to mention he does not have reliable transportation or the resources to get there nightly. Those who use the shelters typically check out in the mornings as well, so he would have no place to put his property during the day without his camp.

Given the temperatures and prominence of homeless people in Eureka alone, some who recently suffered tragic deaths in attempts to escape the weather, we asked if he knew what the primary inhibitors were that prevented folks from obtaining shelter at the Mission, beyond the pet policy and location (particularly for those from Southern Humboldt and other rural parts of the county).

Hall said he was uncertain about how many people came from Southern Humboldt specifically, and wrote, “Oftentimes what I see is many of the homeless folks dont want to be around a lot of people.”

In response to an inquiry about the legality of Lloyd’s camping location, CHP Officer Clevenger responded, “For that I cannot comment… I would defer the legality of that to Caltrans,” adding, “No person should be on the roadway, highway or freeway.”

We asked if Lloyd (and others in his position) could lawfully park his tiny home and/or camp elsewhere. Officer Clevenger replied that possibly “on state property that would be allowed but once again you’d have to check with our legal dept. with that.”

This reporter asked Clevenger if he had ideas about a resolution to the issue, and Officer Clevenger replied, “I wouldn’t know what the solution is…There are [health and human] resources in Redway that can assist, but there’s not a lot of services down in this area that provide housing and things like that.”

Shawn Lloyd, looking out on the 101 fr

Shawn Lloyd and his dog, Molly.

Note: Since we began researching this story in early December and awaiting responses from various agencies, Shawn Lloyd has since been incarcerated on charges related to his “trespassing and evading police” September 26, 2022, in addition to new allegations. He should be considered innocent, as no allegation has been proven in a court of law.

This reporter is now working on the case separately for the Law Offices of Eugene Denson. We will update you here on RHBB on all the case happenings, the fate of Mr. Lloyd, and his tiny home when we are able to disclose more.

Cal ICH Quarterly Meeting on Homelessness Solutions with Gavin Newsom

If you have a comment to make to your representatives and the Cal ICH agency on homelessness in the state, you can join Governor Gavin Newsome at a California Interagency Council On Homelessness Quarterly Council meeting Monday, February 27, 2023 1:00pm – 4:00pm (estimated), via videoconference and telephone.

The agenda lists items up for discussion:
-Proposed FY 23-24 Budget Homelessness Investments
-Cal ICH Statewide Homelessness Assessment (AB 140 Report)
-Action Plan for Preventing and Ending Homelessness – Progress Report
-Federal Strategic Plan Discussion
-General Public Comment (“3:50pm – 4:00pm (10 minutes)”)

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Gary Whittaker
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Gary Whittaker
3 years ago

Well, sometimes Humboldt county is like this, you come here on vacation and you leave here on probation.

Permanently on Monitoring
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Permanently on Monitoring
3 years ago
Reply to  Gary Whittaker

Well, in Lake it’s

“Come retired, leave expired”…

This incredibly looooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnngggggg item points toward a person living in a structure without water or sewer, and on State Property.

He got what the folks in Willits who were also living permanently on State Property got:

Removed.

At least the bums have a free hospital where they can get prompt, free care.

In fact, a bum at SoHum Health will be seen immediately, even if he is bleeding on the floor!

I certainly can’t get free medical care without waiting!

I don’t think the State is going to return the “Small Home”, but I do hope that somebody gives this guy a place to live and a good job, right away!

I recommend Habitat For Humanity, which runs a large old “extended-stay” motel on Hiway 99 outside Yuba City… and there’s lots of “Farm Work” available with no drug-tests required…

Good luck, guy…

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an only mouse
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an only mouse
3 years ago

wow! i guess the hippies were wrong. the age of aquarius is definitely not more loving

HalfACenturian
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3 years ago

This Country was founded (and/or stolen) by people living just that same way. Times change and can change back again. Ireland had sewage in the streets a generation or so ago as did most of the world. Yet you call them “Bums”. Amidst all that disparaging rant you at least hope that somebody gives him a place to live and a job. Ok well that is something. Meanwhile ship them all to Yuba City, eh?

Permanently on Monitoring
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Permanently on Monitoring
3 years ago
Reply to  HalfACenturian

Actually, Yuba City is home of Nixon-Loving Trump Voters who are as NIMBY as ignorant hicks come…

There’s farm towns, and then there are REAL farm-towns…

You can take the boy out of Yuba City, but you will find it impossible to remove the Yuba City from the boy…

Bums are bums, and there have been bums as long as there have been people… In my home town, Yuba City, bums are not welcome but they are ever more present, until Summer, when they all hitchhike to Sonoma, Mendocino, and Humboldt.

Living next to the Freeway in any kind of shelter in all kinds of weather is now called “being houseless”, but working people and career persons should just say “bums”, cause that’s what they are…

Women and Children should always be sheltered and fed, but bums should not be encouraged to hang around, as they may be intoxicated or deranged. Bums attack each other and often have guns and knives, clubs and rocks…

It is important to have Bum Hospitals like SHCHD, to dress the wounds of the incapable, and then bill Medicare…

As for this guy’s “Drug Dealer” status, I was incapable of staying awake until the end of the item, a possible new record for length and lack of interesting reading…

If he is a drug dealer and a trespasser too, the he should move along and quit fussing about his stolen tiny home…

So instead of sending them to YC, you should send them to Bakersfield, Oroville or Stockton, where they will be more welcome…

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Jennifer
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Jennifer
3 years ago

Wow. All I can say is wow. The abject hatred must keep you terribly warm at nite.

Nemo
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Nemo
3 years ago

Do you really think this guy wants a job?

Permanently on Monitoring
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Permanently on Monitoring
3 years ago
Reply to  Nemo

I really think that his job is being the subject of boring long items about his career problems…

Nemo
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Nemo
3 years ago

Because, after you offer him one, he won’t take it. Because he will have to watch after his dog.

HalfACenturian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Gary Whittaker

And in between get axed in the head..oh yes oh so common. Eye roll.

Sick
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Sick
3 years ago

No sympathy for hard drug dealers, who create their own problems. Maybe Cal Trans really just didn’t want to give it back when this guy deals Fentanyl day & night right across from them? Here drug dealer, get cozy so your more comfortable as you deal death to the community! https://lostcoastoutpost.com/booked/2023/feb/05/

I like stars
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I like stars
3 years ago
Reply to  Sick

Thanks for the information.

It is nice to have as many facts as possible. No sympathy if he is selling that shit in our community.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Woah, please refrain from making assumptions. Where does it say fentanyl? And did you know that getting arrested does not automatically mean you are guilty?

I like stars
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I like stars
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

I included the small but important word “if” as part of my comment. I also was not the person who mentioned fentanyl. It seems this article omitted some important information. Such omissions open the door to speculation. They also blur the line between news and opinion.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Stars, When we were almost ready to go to press, Mr. Lloyd was arrested on multiple charges. We included that information in the Note. “Note: Since we began researching this story in early December and awaiting responses from various agencies, Shawn Lloyd has since been incarcerated on charges related to his “trespassing and evading police” September 26, 2022, in addition to new allegations. He should be considered innocent, as no allegation has been proven in a court of law.”

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

2/5 is more than two weeks ago and the charges have to do with a controlled substance and not with just trespassing.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I do not look at the jail records daily, it’s true. I only found out recently as I patiently waited for various agencies to respond to my inquiries that began over 2 months ago. I had a bad feeling when I didn’t hear back from him as I was about to publish, but sometimes it’s hard to keep your phone charged when you live in the forest and are homeless, so I kept working. He tried to get ahold of me right away, but he didn’t have my number memorized, luckily he eventually got through as we were in the publishing process.

Nothing has been proven in a court of law, but yes I am aware of the charges alleged and will update the story whenever applicable, There is a lot more to the story than that aspect as far as I can see. Do you not agree?

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Neither do I. But what is ” the publishing process” such that it is impossible to stop almost immediately.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Why would I stop working on this article about a tiny home that has vanished?

Are you actually asking what my publishing process is? It’s not that interesting, but ok. I’m a single mom balancing a lot , so the end looks like a bunch of promises to my wonderful editor that I will be done before I can realistically finish (or in this case waiting on all the agencies to have adequate time to respond), then sending a draft, but then asked to ask someone(s) else something(s), getting new information, changing it, then waiting for Kym to have time to edit, editing again and again and again with my eyes barley open late at night usually ha ha. I try to wake up at 3/4am when my son is asleep to get work done every morning I have the energy, and I take as much time where I can get it. so for me it is absolutely a process yes.

Jennifer
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Jennifer
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

You Don’t have to explain yourself Nichole you did fine and did the right thing. This article was about a local government agency over stepping it’s bounds encroaching upon civil and liberal rights and in at least 8 ways acting in unlawful manner, breaking laws or interpreting and enforcing laws in a prejudicial manner not in the letter nor spirit of said law, larceny for personal or profession purposes,assault, ( and quite frankly I’d daresay Mr.Cleavener is only IMPERSONATING AN OFFICER since he clearly stated in his own wors ” has no idea” about the laws. ) This was an expose about something going on in the background of the community with alarming reoccurrence and NOT an article about Shawn Harris or His value/net worth as an individual but rather he is merely a symbolic face of a broader spectrum of people’s and the plight. So tell these agro- narrow minded, dull witted, self righteous high handed uptight erroneous anomalies of defective homosapien genetics to back up off you girl !) Thank you for an article worth the read ( I am educated and intelligent enough to understand the reason you mention Mr. Harriss education and background was in attempt to lend credibility,empathy and relatability to the victim of this story. )

Nichole norris
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Nichole norris
3 years ago
Reply to  Jennifer

Thank you so much for your thoughtful and inspiring comment Jennifer, I so appreciate it!

I really like to write longer thought provoking stories and give folks more background to digest. I’m glad that came through for you. Shawn barley mentioned his student loans and I almost feel bad speaking about it because people got derailed as if he was homeless because of that only. He spoke to me a lot about his love of the redwoods and forest. His struggle to find a job that can sustain a roof over his head is a conglomeration of issues, not just one and it’s sad some folks got lost. Perhaps because student loans have been a sort of political football recently? Idk.

I personally struggle with crippling student loan debt (and compounded interest) myself and know firsthand how it detours one from full time employment because it ends up costing you money to work after considering gas, auto expenses, childcare etc. I think it’s important to consider these factors when we discuss homelessness. The people who live on our streets and in the forests are people too with stories. No one is perfect, but the stories can help shed light on the issues.

Shawn (and his mom and family ) is a wonderful person as far as I can tell. I’m grateful he was brave enough to share his story with the community. Thanks again.

HalfACenturian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

A lot more to story than that aspect. YES.

HalfACenturian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

EPD does shady bogus charges often. Ithaca New York has a “Public Safety” approach that is much better. I wouldn’t have believed it so startlingly prevalent and heinous among EPD until witnessing multiple occasions of people not committing crimes ..people I didn’t know getting terrible treatment. They weren’t so much as smoking a cigarette or pot, not even as vulnerable as homeless. It’s no wonder people want to live in groups for witnesses and some slight modicum of protection which is little consolation though when no legal protections. The “Public Defender” said “The judge will just believe the officers” about a woman in her late 50s who was arrested not many years ago for public intoxication (she was not, she was having a medication reaction to prednisone which is amazingly common so be careful people) in her own apartment back yard in broad daylight as she was trying to get back into her apt. and also charged with resisting arrest which she did not. They didn’t test her but kept her in filthy jail 24 hours and tried to force drug her and when it became evident she wasn’t drunk or drying out they forcibly took her to Sempervirons where they forced medicated her while she was in handcuffs and kept her their another 24 hours. Outrageous. EPD pretended to not be able to find the video for 6+ months while they tried to push her into a “Plea deal” that would have likely killed her psychologically. She was not threatening herself nor anyone else, not so much as cursing or throwing things. She has not recovered many years later and is a tough person who had survived cancer twice and many other things in life with bravery and optimism. Twice in mid Eureka neighborhood neighbors regretted (after they saw shocking treatement by police) calling police when they were concerned about women who seemed disoriented or even just sitting curb side quietly crying. They registered complaints…who knows what happened to those? If that goes on in housed areas with housed people committing no crime then just imagine what happens in less visible populated places. FRightening and sad. Waste of funding for police also..that time should go to out and out crimes that are supposedly so prevelant and EPD and other local LEO likely too so “understaffed

Jennifer
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Jennifer
3 years ago
Reply to  HalfACenturian

Well said. I witnessed innumerable atrocities while living there both in eureka and later, garberville perpetrated by police. Remember when the truancy officer shot and killed a 17 year old, or when swat caved in the elderly shut ins door and shot her 57 times for having a telephonic argument with her bf and refusing to open the door to the police attempting to do an unlaw entry? Or how about the elderly hard of hearing gentleman the test gassed and shot to death as he exited upon hands and knees backwards from a hotel room that police had mistaken for a different room where there had been a disturbance or the seventy your old hitchhiker the shot for welding a broomstick out of fear that he’d be shot by them ( ironic? Maybe.) Or the music promoter they dragged from a car and best into a coma just 45 minutes after her televised his intentions to promote a fundraiser to pay for outside investigations into the police brutality and the shooting of the truancy student that were likely connected to a deep seated corruption within city and county law enforcement agencies.( I have always wondered when and why truancy officers are armed with firearms, is that a policy or a procedure…hmmm?) Kym keep up the good work, but be careful my friend…be very very careful. Don’t make yourself or other reporters a target…you my blow a stop sign and end up in the morgue. Be safe Hun. ( I almost forgot, the time that I watched them beat to death an unconscious man from myers flat man know as ” Mexican Dave whom I was acquainted with personally. They had me locked in an adjacent glass walled cell, for safety reasons as per bringing a suspect into the intake area he was already bruised bloody and unconscious when they brought him in. I was in on a DUI charge- the only criminal charge I’ve ever had – I’m 51yrs old ..) thank you.

Farce
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Farce
3 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Agreed. Like many stories on RHBB of poor people being unjustly treated we are only given the part of the story that tugs at our heartstrings and builds our sympathy for the poor person treated unjustly by the terrible oppressive agencies. Like the magical medical weed growers who were secretly spraying the Avid and Eagle 20 all over their crop for “helping out sick people”. Or how wonderful Charles Garth is with his shitshow up in Trinidad. I’ve been hearing hippie bullshit for decades now and I guess I would just like to not be bullshitted…I’m pretty much over it.

Actually
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Actually
3 years ago
Reply to  Farce

The Trinidad thing is actually pretty clean and mellow these days.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  Actually

Yeehaw is super clean yes, I do regular site visits, and it’s nicer every single time I go out. One of the buses was even refurbished and super beautiful, I’d love to live there for $300 a month. It’s a really valuable resource for our low income residents. An elderly women on social security lives there now. She couldn’t afford anywhere else in the county if it weren’t for Yeehaw.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

I apologize Stars I meant to respond to “Sick.”

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

There are no opinions or omissions here Stars. Those accused should be assumed innocent unless proven guilty. I certainly plan to do a follow up story with any new substantiated details and CalTrans response as stated. The man’s tiny home was taken and I’d like to find it too.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Except apparently when repeating crimes alleged by Mr. Lloyd committed against him. “There are no opinions or omissions?” Really?

Brian
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Brian
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Hey Nicole, thanks for this article. To EVERYONE who went directly to the man dealing drugs, SHAME ON YOU!! It’s a given that you’re going to get messed with, in Humboldt, if you’re homeless. Not everyone’s dealt the same opportunities at birth. I’m a homeless Nam Veteran due to my PTSD ( don’t trust people) and losing everything in the Dixie Fire two years ago. I don’t deal drugs. And before any of you judge me, I don’t have a police record and I’m a really nice guy. Just starting over in a world where helping others seems to be only a theory ✌️?

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Thank you for the kind comment Brian! PTSD, houselessness and a lack of trust all relate to trauma absolutely. I wish more folks understood that so we could lift folks up instead. Thank you for raising the issue! And correct not all folks deal drugs who live on the streets. some people who have never lived on the streets have lots of opinions about this it seems, but if you’ve never walked in someone else’s shoes, how can you know what they are dealing with?

HalfACenturian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Also there is self medication aspect of illicit drugs. Our mental he!! System will pump people full of pharmaceuticals cause that is cheaper than quality care (by a team not just 50 min. With a therapist who works largely in isolation or for an organization that has no independent oversight nor recourse for those treated improperly). Rotating, non consistent exposure with various “Therapist” (which can be retraumatizng) and meds are it for lower income people and that is almost never talked nor written about. Commenters as you say with no experience or I’ve noticed had a few hardships (being born premature was listed by two such commenters…seriously they did not over come that alone nor does it compare with heinous child abuse that same commenters will likely rigerously comment about wanting to kill the perpetrators). Even if they had 3 or 4 life challenges, including over coming drug abuse, they too often tend to give themselves and their “Hard work” not community credit for their accomplishments and also thereby judge others as just “lazy” etc. So sadly dangerously simplistic.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Unfortunately Mr. Lloyd does have a police record. His mother so states in the article.

HalfACenturian
Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Yes and so little assistance for sufferers, veterans and others. Thank you for speaking up.
Message me if you like (not sure how that works on Discuss) as I am trying to set up more support for just such needs for cPTSD and PTSD sufferers and would love company.

HalfACenturian
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3 years ago
Reply to  HalfACenturian

Whoops I’m logged in via word press not discuss

Jennifer
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Jennifer
3 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Thank you for your service brian. I’m terrible sorry to you that the civilian populace ( which I’m ashamed to be part of…)has let you done, abandoned you and not been grateful and additive to a soldier who’s done service to us all..god bless and keep you I salute you.

Shawn Lloyd
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Shawn Lloyd
2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Those allegations definitely came out after the whole tiny home thing. Allegations are very convenient if you want to distract from the real issue at hand. And there was absolutely police misconduct here.

james immel
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james immel
3 years ago
Reply to  Sick

Idea, Maybe he should go back to Seattle and take advantage of all the great social programs and decriminalization of drugs etc. If you end up living on the side of the road that is a clear sign that the economy you tied yourself to is over.. As a born and raised Californian I wouuld love to see more of these folks go home.

Farce
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Farce
3 years ago
Reply to  james immel

Greenrushers of all types- Go Home!

HalfACenturian
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3 years ago
Reply to  james immel

ITs happening all over the Country…

james immel
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james immel
3 years ago
Reply to  james immel

I know someone who had over 50k in student loans. Came to the triangle to work. Instead of partying and becoming an addict, literally used the money earned to pay off all the loans. For some crazy reason felt like they had the obligation to do so. According to many peoples opinion here someone else should have paid those debts off. or better yet, now that person should help pay off everyone elses debt.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  james immel

Couldnt one argue his debts were in part paid by those incarcerated for the same plant he used to repay the loans? The illegality of cannabis enabled him to do so. It’s legal now and so not as easy to come by 50k.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

No sensible person would. Any more than it would justify if the illegality was theft.

Shawn Lloyd
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Shawn Lloyd
2 years ago
Reply to  Sick

Those allegations definitely came out after the whole tiny home thing. Allegations are very convenient if you want to distract from the real issue at hand. And there was absolutely police misconduct here.

guest`
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guest`
3 years ago

If it is a long story it isn’t going to resolve the way this man is hoping. This man has family who cares about him there is really no reason he should be living the way he is. He should go back to his family and work on paying off the student loans. Yes, they garnish your wages if you don’t pay. Don’t get student loans you don’t plan on paying off.

HalfACenturian
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3 years ago
Reply to  guest`

Family is not enough. No “Reason”? You don’t know, neither do I enough to even begin to judge that.

curlybill
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curlybill
3 years ago
Reply to  guest`

Sometimes family will send money (Western Union) either out of love or in the hope that they stay where they are.

College!
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College!
3 years ago

Hear that, kidz? Get a degree, end up homeless … hmmm.
Seems like in this time of “everyone is hiring” Mr. Lloyd would not have a problem leveraging his education
… why isn’t he. Why stay in a town with a dying economy if you have marketable skills?
Good thing windmill component jobs are coming to SoHum, maybe he’ll be hired to run the shop.

HalfACenturian
Member
3 years ago
Reply to  College!

Relocation can be expensive. Yes he has resources for that possibly…more than older people with zero family. Lots of non livable wage jobs available because a mass exocous from CA by people who worked and still couldn’t afford rent – true of many homeless. Also rents accross the country have been skyrocketing due to remote work increasing.

HalfACenturian
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3 years ago
Reply to  HalfACenturian

And excessively wealthy from around the globe buying up real estate only to leave it empty and gain equity while providing no housing.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  HalfACenturian

Apparently you would drag every fad on social ills into this to excuse when there is no information to support it. He might be a migrant from another planet who was confused by earthlings. Want to suggest that too? You act as if there have never been difficult times for anyone ever before.
Frankly “relocating” with almost no money is what people have always done and he has already done a number of times.

Jennifer
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Jennifer
3 years ago
Reply to  HalfACenturian

I left Humboldt because the extremely low amount of affordable housing and employment opportunities, the extremely high rate of crime and number of missing or murdered persons and utter near total lack of any resources or assistance or even attempts to rectify these issues. No I am not nor was I a drug addict, homeless, drunk( maybe occasionally) mentally ill, nor a criminal. I left first to Ukiah where I became an outreach emergency first contact relief worker ( social worker) and then back to garberville ( due to illness, death in my family) and afterwards after finding it impossible to rent a decent home for under 2k mo. I left on a road trip to Mississippi and ended up settling in Arkansas. Strangely enough I’ve discovered that in the ” backwoods hardline republican bible belt, there are a thousand times more civil social services for homeless individuals from jobs to housing/ food to counseling and so much more. These uptight christian curmudgeons have more empathy than all the bleeding heart liberals in California combined. I’m glad I left and because of people like “permanenty” I will never return.

Alf34
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Alf34
3 years ago

Student loans should be forgiven 100% I know so many people with crippling student loans they will never be able too get out from under. If there student loans are forgiven they will be able too start saving for a home and retirement. As things stand now they will have to work well into there 70’s with nothing to show for it.

Mike Morgan
Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf34

Nice you self-identify as supporting slavery and/or theft.

Just got in from outer space, couple questions:
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Just got in from outer space, couple questions:
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Morgan

Are you referring to the “I Know You Are, But What Am I?”, case? 1985, Jomama Vs. D’Nasti Mall Food Court? I believe the ruling was no take backs: to infinity.

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guest`
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guest`
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf34

This man wants to live on the side of the road and deal drugs. He has family. He has a degree. He could stop doing drugs, get a haircut, go back to his family, and get a fucking job. It is that simple. Quit the bullshit.

just an opinion
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just an opinion
3 years ago
Reply to  guest`

Maybe it’s time to move back home and live with mom for awhile. ?

guest`
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guest`
3 years ago

If he wanted he could get a free ticket back to where he came from with a simple okay from his family. There is a sign on the Arcata Bus Station that says to call a number and get a free ticket. All he needs is one family member to say they are waiting for him or a job offer.

I’m sure he doesn’t even need to travel to Arcata to get the free ticket.

Instead, this man is destined to end up missing or dead like many others who came here. Someday we will read about it on RHBB. Someday his family will ask if anyone has any information about his disappearance, murder, or overdose. Someday they might need to look for his body. Someday, they might only find a limb on the side of the road.

Gary Whittaker
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Gary Whittaker
3 years ago

Seems like alot of baggage for Mom.

guest`
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guest`
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf34

Oh nos! Will have to deal drugs into his seventies on the side of the road! Oh the humanity!

izzy
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izzy
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf34

It’s often the crippling interest rates that make such loans the burden they become. In a more realistic time that was called usury, and was illegal.
When Albert Einstein was asked about the most powerful force in the universe, he apocryphally replied “Compound interest”.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  izzy

Ha! There was a time when non secured interest was 23% and an ordinary mortgage 17%.
But at least you are clear that Einstein never meant anything like that since you pointed out it was “apocryphally.” The rest of the quote is “Compound interest is the eighth wonder of the world. He who understands it, earns it … he who doesn’t … pays it.”

guest`
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guest`
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf34

I am so tired of this talk. I was hit with a huge bill that wasn’t my fault. I kept a roof over my head by living with a negotiated payment plan. There was lots of financial pain and suffering involved but there was an end. The end is freedom from debt and a better day tomorrow.

This guy promised to pay back his loans when he got them, received his communications and English degree. There is so much English and communication in his explanation of his troubles living on the side of the road. The school taught him how to communicate and here we are. But somehow, he should not have to pay for any of it, or wash his own ass.

HalfACenturian
Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf34

They could have the loans partially forgiven but not totally..what is with the extremes on both sides?: No cost what so ever for getting to study and enjoy classes OR exorbitant interest rates and fees charged are not the only two options and if we only focus on those were in an endless ping pong game of attrition.

Jay
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Jay
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf34

Hell I have no student loans or any loans at all as a matter of fact and I’ll be working until ten days after I’m dead with nothing to show for it.

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Nemo
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Nemo
3 years ago
Reply to  Jay

🙁

old guy
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old guy
3 years ago

june 22, 2022 was the deadline date, why was he still there in september? i feel for him, and his situation, not going to court and living on property that’s not his, and boohooing 7 months after the fact isn’t right or responsible either.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  old guy

Sept. 26 was the only deadline given on sept. 23 when concrete barriers were placed to prevent him from moving the tiny home.

guest`
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guest`
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Did he put the wheels back on and show up with a tow? Or did he just complain about the barriers and start writing an epic?

I like stars
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I like stars
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

The third picture shows a June 27 deadline.

Am I missing something?

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

The only deadline to remove the tiny home*

He did not see caltrans after the June notice.

I like stars
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I like stars
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

He saw them when they came to move the building that was still there past the deadline. It is right there in writing. He didn’t have only 3 days to move it. He had months. They were the dry months when moving large things is generally easier. Looks like he simply disregarded the clear deadline.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

He was given Three days to move the tiny home. He only had the tiny home for less than a month prior to receiving the September notice. The first notice was for the tent camp that has been Shawn’s camp since august 2021 and still. Caltrans has no issues with the tent camp, only the tiny home. They took his tiny home and allowed him to stay camping there the same day.

guest`
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guest`
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

He does not have the right to place a BUILDING on public land. He does not have the right to set up a drug shop on the side of the road in a BUILDING on land he does not own. It is really quite simple.

Does he have a title for the house? No title has been mentioned at all in this long article. By law an RV, vehicle, or tiny home needs to have a title. There is no title because someone built this thing and didn’t make it legal.

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

That’s his story and you’re sticking with it.

ano
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ano
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

At the very end of the multiple page article there is a single sentence disclosing that the author is doing legal work for him.

This is a PR piece from a paralegal thinly disguised as journalism.

Kym Kemp
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3 years ago
Reply to  ano

Sadly, I am unable to pay Nikki the kind of money that would support her. Like every single other one of my freelancers, she does other work. Also, in case some how this worries you–my husband, my father, and my grandfather all worked for Caltrans.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  ano

It’s a small town and I wear a lot of hats, true. My interest in justice has lead me to work as a reporter and paralegal, which is not uncommon for reporters. I wrote the bulk of this article prior to Mr. Lloyd needing legal help, and prior to my getting the paralegal job. I would have published the same article regardless of Mr. Lloyd hiring our firm. I do not do PR pieces.

Mike Morgan
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3 years ago

Lloyd claimed, “They cannot criminalize homeless people unless there are adequate shelter facilities and there isn’t any here.”

Well, he’s starting with invalid assumptions. Property owners, especially government agencies, have a great deal of power over their land and who can use it.

Granted that the gentleman was a better class of squatter than average, he had no legal right to seize public land for his own, exclusive, use.

The State had every right to use the land as they deemed fit, subject to appropriate laws and regulations.

That he is homeless is sad and unfortunately his own fault… He decided on his own that none of the jobs he could find were worthy of him…

Others chose low-level, low-paying, and low socio-economic status jobs to pay the bills. For example, I worked for years at a succession of fast-food restaurants to earn enough to go to C/R to get my GPA back up so I could work for another two years in retail at Radio Shack and a couple of similar stores to get back to Humboldt. It took my “privileged white arse” until I was 30 to graduate because of my earlier errors in judgement. I ended up having to leave California to find “suitable work” and desperately miss my old stomping grounds, the redwoods, and the Pacific Ocean. And I had to pay off my college loans at 9 percent interest.

Magensbay
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Magensbay
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Morgan

The difference between your “privlege white arse” and his is that you make a mistake in your youth and its forgotten. He makes a mistake and it follows him for the rest of his life. Food for thought. Sometimes our privilege blind us to the perspective of others lived realities

Country Joe
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3 years ago
Reply to  Magensbay

Not really. This guy’s just a trespassing vagrant. Drag him out of the tree or start cutting it down. He’ll get out…

Mike Morgan
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3 years ago
Reply to  Magensbay

That’s just “road apples”. And you know it.

Ricky Bennis
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Ricky Bennis
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Morgan

The ones charging you 9% are criminals. All that money you paid to finance your education was whisked away from our community. Student loans should be 0% interest. They’ve already jacked up basic tuition beyond the means of normals. The usary interest rates make it harder to ever pay off.
Kinda gets me fired up about the Fed’s approach to inflation. Jerome Powell is breathing rare air up there. Instead of looking at petroleum,and steel prices as drivers of inflation, Powell is raising interest rates. That might work if the sector of the economy experiencing inflation was Rich-People-Real estate. It won’t work if people are using credit to buy fuel and food. The US has just achieved a RECORD LEVEL OF CREDIT CARD DEBT. Increased interest rates aren’t going to keep you from “wasting” money on eggs. They’re just going to funnel your money to the banks.
This isn’t a partisan issue. Powell is a Trump appointment. And Democrats, just like Republicans, find it easier to get elected if they start filthy rich. The anchors on Fox News, or NPR all went to the same elite private schools.

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HalfACenturian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Magensbay

YES and true of many poor no matter skin color…not to the same degree generally and including other marginalized is more accurate than acting as if they don’t matter and will go further to further the cause for all.

curlybill
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curlybill
3 years ago
Reply to  Magensbay

It isn’t privilege, it is entitled.

guest`
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guest`
3 years ago
Reply to  Magensbay

No, the problem was he didn’t like having his wages garnished by student loans, so he went off grid and ended up selling drugs and trying to place a house illegally in a rural county with few, if any, social services for bums and drug addicts.

Anon
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Anon
3 years ago
Reply to  Magensbay

Bc that’s what happens when you break the law repeatedly?

Jimbobo
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Jimbobo
3 years ago
Reply to  Magensbay

What the hell are you talking about? A felony is a felony and it doesn’t matter what color your skin is. Felonies aren’t forgiven for white people. Felonies follow you on your record for the rest of your life regardless of your skin color. Stop trying to bring race into everything. A criminal is a criminal. A bum is a bum.

Madrone is the best Supervisor in Humboldt
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Madrone is the best Supervisor in Humboldt
3 years ago

In the amount of time it took to write this article you could of built him a new tiny home in a new location. Homelessness sucks, but it has to be short term. Can’t be a long term situation or else the person is to blame. This guy could’ve got a job washing dishes at a restaurant or making beds at a hotel or with his education a higher paying job. He’s college educated and handy with tools. There are jobs available everywhere. Homelessness in Humboldt County is most of the time a CHOICE! People are choosing the homeless lifestyle. This guy is actually the problem. He has all the skills to be employed and provide a roof over his head, but instead he CHOOSES to be homeless. On top of that he’s not even from here. People come to Humboldt because they hear it’s a great place to be homeless. We need to change that train of thought and discourage people moving here for the homeless lifestyle. I’m fed up with these stories crying ? for sympathy when it’s the person’s choice!

Festus Haggins
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Festus Haggins
3 years ago

Glad I’m not the only one who almost had to take a nap to finish the article!

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3 years ago
Reply to  Festus Haggins

I agree the article needed some editing, it has to be shorter and more to the point. When you put to much information into an article the reader skips some parts and misses some of the key points you are trying to make.

HalfACenturian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Or maybe we’re just to used to fast food news, tweets etc.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago

That’s hilarious, i too make fun of my novel articles. However, I’m actually terrible at building so I’m afraid it would take more time. The majority of the time spent on this article was waiting on responses from various agencies.

The Real Brian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Not everyone has the interest to read details.

(I like details, but I’m not interested in this story from the get…)

You’ve written something that has brought a lot of discussion, and you took the above criticism really well.

I say Kudos.

Ricky Bennis
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Ricky Bennis
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Harper’s Index just pointed out 1/3 of people claim their “Brain shuts off” when presented with data.

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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Prolyx is not the same as precise.

HalfACenturian
Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Peeps still want their “MTV and chicks for free” per the 90s song or was it 80s – now its real news as easy as a tweet.

HalfACenturian
Member
3 years ago

Oh you mean all that diligent, thorough hard work? Wow, so little gratitude and appreciation and so much time to write a lengthy comment. Every heard of NYT or other in-depth coverage? We’re lucky to get this here when we can.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  HalfACenturian

Thanks so much for noticing! I wish half the people who complained about my articles would try to write their own ha ha. It’s true, investigative reporting is rare sadly. I appreciate your comments!

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Almost every post that is what many do. Without getting paid for it and with only skepticism to motivate.

Ricky Bennis
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Ricky Bennis
3 years ago

This might be the worst place to be homeless. Once homeless it’s hard to just pack up, and drive your functional car to Malibu. The figures showing Eureka homeless points to people being stuck, once dropped at the Pink House in Eureka. Besides an established drug connection, what’s great about living along side the freeway in the rainiest spot in the Nation? Is the Mateel meal THAT good?

Guest
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3 years ago
Reply to  Ricky Bennis

Got on the Greyhound bus and went to San Francisco a number of times. Stops in Garberville, Laytonville, Santa Rosa and other places I have forgotten.

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Madrone is the best Supervisor in Humboldt
3 years ago

I got to go to work right now. Do I really want to on a holiday? Fck no! But I have to because I need a roof over my head and my kids need food. People have to make choices everyday to not be homeless. There are jobs everywhere. If you’re homeless now you are either on drugs, lazy, have mental illness and or have chosen to be homeless as your lifestyle. Get off the drugs, off your lazy ass and get to work!!!

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago

You have a good point, if you are mentally ill and homless you should get help, but he seems to be a competent person who managed to go to college and get a degree. Living amongt the hippies for so long I get tired of them always looking for a handout, but dont want to work. I dont like my job, dont paid a lot, but I go anways because I dont want to beg people for money or live off the goverment, hippies hate the goverment but are always willing to take their money.

Madrone is the best Supervisor in Humboldt
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Madrone is the best Supervisor in Humboldt
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Thank you for the reply.

HalfACenturian
Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

You write…”BUT” which negates what you write before as if it is a little insignificant aside.. Maybe some of the hostility in comments are from bitter people who say they suck it up but it comes out many other ways. Better opportunities for all. Guy had an ax to his head. Hippies were more likely the parents of these youngsters not them…young people now have much more hardship, fewer resources than that generation or the 50s generation.

Mariahgirl
Guest
3 years ago

Looks like a good law suit to me. Also the government agencies involved are I don’t know and I didn’t do it.

Hugh Manatee
Member
3 years ago

Mr Lloyd sure has a LOT of excuses!
Said he didn’t get notice of when he had to be out when it was clearly written in the notice. “Forgot” his court date. Can’t find a good paying job. Well, maybe move out of southern Humboldt, or you start at a low wage and work your way up by being a good employee.

Dude, get rid of your dog and get some shelter. Or better yet, go back and live with your mom, save a little money, and get a decent employment history.

I feel for the guy losing his little home, but come on man, you have to step up and help yourself.

Farce
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Farce
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh Manatee

Don’t get rid of your dog!! Loyalty to a loyal dog is one of his most redeeming qualities. The shelter is full. KEEP YOUR DOG and treat her well. She loves you more than anybody except maybe your Mom.

Anon.
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Anon.
3 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Well said.

Hugh Manatee
Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Farce

I must disagree.
I get it, I am a big fan of dogs, but when the dog is keeping you from having shelter, that is too high of a price to pay. And how well do you think this guy really treats his dog? Do you think it has regular vet care? Proper nutrition? Is it being given medication to prevent heart worm, fleas and ticks? I just can’t see this situation being good for the person or the dog. Sometimes one has to make hard choices to get out of a painful cycle.

HalfACenturian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh Manatee

Sometimes the painful choice is loyalty and consistent relationship and is made from a meager menu. Life is not a fast food menu we are not all working off the same one either as they are made so much of context, including experiences.

Ricky Bennis
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Ricky Bennis
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh Manatee

Have you applied for a rental recently in Eureka/Arcata?
You will be turned away, after paying application fees, and sharing your personal financial information with strangers.

HalfACenturian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Farce

And good for mental health.

Farce
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Farce
3 years ago
Reply to  HalfACenturian

Amen

I like stars
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I like stars
3 years ago

His property should be returned to him.

I also don’t think we can let everyone place tiny homes on public land. Establishing residence in a place is a de facto privatization of that place.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago

Woah, please refrain from making assumptions. Where does it say fentanyl? And did you know that getting arrested does not automatically mean you are guilty?

Sick
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Sick
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Wasn’t making assumptions. He deals death to my loved one! You’re being played for fools.

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Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  Sick

If you have information to share please feel free to contact me at [email protected]

Sick
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Sick
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

I did share. Anything further risks my loved one’s safety.

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Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  Sick

While I think I understand what you mean, I hope you can understand I can only write about what I can substantiate and if I have no information I’m not sure what to do?

Sick
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Sick
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

You’re a reporter, all you have to do is sit for one night and watch the traffic. You think they’re just roasting marshmallows?

Lou Monadi
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Lou Monadi
3 years ago

Sounds like he’s living the California Dream. I’m jealous. Off to work I go, so I can pay taxes to support this man.

HalfACenturian
Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

Go ahead, try it out for 6 months and see how fun it is. Oh and being hit in head with an ax cause unsheltered…that’s so much fun. So many bitter people about their jobs might want to consider making things better for everyone rather than feeling superiority martyred.

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  HalfACenturian

His problems started a long time before that happened.

Peteyboy
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Peteyboy
3 years ago

People are missing the point. The issue here is CalTrans told the man to move the house, then put up barriers to prevent him from doing so. After moving the house, CalTrans told him he had three months to retrieve it, but before the three months were up, the house disappeared from the lot.

Regardless of the nature of the victim, someone at CalTrans used their position as a state employee to steal a tiny house from this person. And his or her co-workers are covering for them because no one has turned the thief in.

That’s evidence of a serious level of corruption at CalTrans, it could very well be the tip of the iceberg. and it needs to be investigated.

an only mouse
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an only mouse
3 years ago
Reply to  Peteyboy

You get the “BEST COMMENT” and the “BEST READING COMPREHENSION” awards for this story.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  an only mouse

Agreed.

Anon.
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Anon.
3 years ago
Reply to  an only mouse

Agreed.

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Peteyboy

The only point of this voluminous soapbox of an article is that insanity is contagious. It comes from a determination that, to help people who make nonsensical self serving statements, they must be accepted as the reality. As Mr. Lloyd puts it ““I don’t know why [my having the basics] would bother anybody.” and the readers are required to think the same.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Actually Shawn was confused why a tiny home that was safer and nicer was an issue whereas his tent was not. I think that’s a valid question. He wasn’t bothering anyone , cleaned up a huge mess and took care of a space that will be used regardless of him being there. No one said we had the solution, but we are not getting any closer when we don’t speak about it.

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guest`
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

He does not have the legal right to put a home there.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  guest`

I never said he had the legal right to put a home there. Does he have the legal right to camp there? That’s what he has been doing. I’m again not saying I have the solution. I really wish I did.

guest`
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guest`
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Putting the house there is why he lost the house. He was told to move the house he took wheels off and leveled it. Leveling the house and taking off wheels is a very good sign he intends to leave the house there.

If you listen to the man he feels he has a right to put his house there and still thinks so.

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

The first step in a solution is to examine how a person got there because until you do, you have no idea what keeps them there. Nor how to stop more from being created. It is no solution to keep suggesting the same things when the evidence for it is clearly not working.
Housing first is only for places where there is low drug/alcohol addiction, a sizable mental hospital system, a large population of workers to support it, a strong charitable history and affordable housing. In other words, not Humboldt County. And utah’s governor just warned of Californians moving there. Once started, it is a permanent increasing financial obligation. A veritable endless money pit paid from the taxes of those working. It is better to figure out how people got there and prevent the need than try to f8x it later.

HalfACenturian
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3 years ago
Reply to  guest`

Neither did most of our ancestors … times change and we change with it or not.

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Obviously he was bothering someone. Do you really think that this is the Wild West of Hollywood movies where you can stake a claim and it’s yours? This is not ” speaking to” anything except a social agenda promulgated by a person who pretends that there is no difference between setting up a tent and planting a house however tiny. Any sensible person does not think that is rational. Even if they think there is no harm in setting up tents willy-nilly. No, you think you are making a point you want made. You are just choosing irrationality as a means.

Guess
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Guess
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Not to mention squatters right idk how it works nowadays but I was under the impression if you live somewhere long enough I think it was 5 years without anyone telling you to leave you could claim the property.

HalfACenturian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I guess you haven’t read about the coroner’s office corruption and BTW plenty happens in private industry and even social services and non-profits.

Melony
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Melony
3 years ago
Reply to  Peteyboy

Very well said Petey! His home and belongings gs were taken from his possession, (on video) and not returned or were damaged. If that happened to me, I would be screaming the house down. And I would get an out of county attorney.

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guest`
3 years ago
Reply to  Peteyboy

He took the wheels off and leveled the house. If he intended to leave he would have put the wheels back on and had it towed.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  guest`

The hillside to tow it out (where it was towed in ) is steep and was blocked at the very top by concrete barriers.

guest`
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guest`
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Did he show any sign of putting the wheels back on? That would be step one to show he was serious about moving the house.

It is easier to use his fancy degrees and explain how it is all somebody else’s fault he is now (checks notes) in jail.

Going home to Seattle sounds better and better by the minute.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

It got there when it shouldn’t have. It was tucked away out of view. Why is his intent not clear? Did he even ask CalTrans to let him out?

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

No one said it should have “got there.” Houseless folks often tuck themselves out of view for obvious reasons (Ex. see the comments). I don’t understand your question “did he even ask caltrans to let him out?” He isn’t locked in the Caltrans maintenance yard.

guest`
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guest`
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Did he show any sign at all of getting ready to move it? Like putting the wheels back on or hiring a tow? See here, step one is proving you are doing something to move the house. He did not do that.

If you listen to his own words it appears he feels entitled to put the house there and doesn’t understand that the HOUSE is the reason he can’t camp there. He feels he is entitled to put his house there.

Madrone is the best Supervisor in Humboldt
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Madrone is the best Supervisor in Humboldt
3 years ago
Zipline
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Zipline
3 years ago

Overly long mostly irrelevant article that’s been done to death. Seems like the responses to this article, and the many other just like it, are going increasely negatively for the subjects profiled…..

HalfACenturian
Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Zipline

Not accurate assessment of comments nor the number of people represented by them.

Pamela
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Pamela
3 years ago

Shawn seems to be a good person with the misfortune to have come up against some bad people. Where is the evidence that he has ever sold any drugs to anyone?
I have just finished reading the replies below. The ignorance, racism, verbal victim blaming, and meanness in many of the responses is just what I expected before starting to read them. How many of these responders have tried to exist while committing the crime of having dark skin while doing so? None, I think. Example: (paraphrase) “Go get a job (in Southern Humboldt) and support yourself”. Who among them knows anything of the effects of a brain injury? None, I think.
Some criminal within CalTrans and/or law enforcement in Southern Humboldt stole his home, and is now hiding it from him it may be in the back yard of one of them, or has been sold and someone is richer for it. Someone trashed a very expensive generator, out of spite or meanness, thus creating more trash and waste they run off people for, and which they purport to fight against. We, the taxpayers, pay for and support their criminal behavior.
Thank you, Kim, and to your devoted staff members for addressing this, with your tireless efforts, and your fight for justice.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  Pamela

Thank you for your comment as well. There is no evidence of drug sales, which is why I didn’t add it to the story.

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Did you ask?

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I did/do not assume he (or anyone else I cover) might sell drugs to ask that no. Why would I ask someone if they sold drugs? I was interviewing shawn about a tiny home that was taken by caltrans, never to be seen again.

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Because there has to be a source of income even if squatting. And he had been in trouble with the law. You repeated his mother’s allegation about it. And lastly that is the reason for the existence of reporters, isn’t it? To ask questions when the statements are obviously incomplete or contradictory. This story is chock full of such questions begging to be asked.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

He is a general laborer taking odd jobs he said. Why would I investigate someone’s criminal history because they had a tiny home removed by caltrans? I just met his mom after I lost touch with him recently, the allegations are old as far as I understand and irrelevant to the matter that the whereabouts of his tiny home are still unknown.There will be follow up article to this story.

guest`
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guest`
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

He is camping in jail now. Maybe for the best as it is going to freeze Tuesday and Wednesday and some homeless are going to die out there.

Ricky Bennis
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Ricky Bennis
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

CalTrans will be less likely to have to settle a law suit with an alleged drug dealer if they themselves followed protocols and the law, and didn’t disappear the trailer. They should at least explain what happened to it. If they had taken it to the dump, they should say it. Their lack of clarity makes it look like someone stole it. Back during the Asset Forfeiture days, you didn’t get your sailboat seized until being at least charged for having a pot seed on board.

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3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Just curious, when you rea chef out to CalTrans PIO, did you reach out to Cori Reed or Myles Cochrane…???

Or both…???

Kym Kemp
Admin
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Nikki reached out to a number of Caltrans folks including just filing Public Info Requests [email protected]

These are some of the names she cc’d me on:
Jessica Henry Gibbs
Myles Cochrane
Russ Heimerich
Tamie McGowan
Tom Fitzgerald

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Looks like Cori Reed might be the PIO head honcho.

CalTrans District 1

Cori Reed

CHIEF Public and Media Affairs…

(707) 834-9530

Or, maybe you need a “Miracle”…?

Meriah Miracle

Public and Media Affairs – Social Media

(707) 496-1781

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Thanks Kym.

I also reached out to Tamie McGowen and Marty Greenstein at the California State Transportation Agency CalSTA, in addition to a handful of other folks and agencies.

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Nichol Norris,

I was not suggesting that you didn’t do an outstanding job, I believe that you have.

I should have made that clear first, especially considering there are more “Guest”s, than one, commenting…

I was curious as to who might be in charge at the Garberville CalTrans yard, so I looked up the district one info…

But, I actually don’t know where these decisions about Lloyd’s camp came from, so the decisions may not even have come from the Garberville yard…

Thank you for your continued dedication and extraordinary efforts towards thorough reporting.

It is much appreciated.

Sincerely,

Guest

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3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

They may be legally required to tell you what happened to the home if you can prove ownership with a title. Why don’t you ask the previous owner who gave away the house for the title? Without a title I’m not sure a government agency is going to respond in the way you are expecting.

There are laws and agencies involved. It is no longer a “here dude, take this thing I built in my backyard and chill out somewhere…..” kind of thing once it is on public land and there is a government agency threatening to evict you. You need to start getting your T’s crossed and your I’s dotted. This is not going to get you the results you are looking for.

Guest
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3 years ago
Reply to  Pamela

It must be hard to maintain determined outrage in the face of overwhelming contradictions. Maybe part that goes “The ignorance, racism, verbal victim blaming, and meanness in many of the responses is just what I expected before starting to read them” explains it.

His mother put it well when she said “I’m not sure why he is homeless, Shawn has a BA in communications and a Minor in English. He is quite intelligent.” Could be because the article is not exactly an examination to provide clarity into it.

HalfACenturian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Mothers are generally amazing AND they are not a sole source for a person’s conditions etc. To treat her input as some how proof he should not be homeless is absurdly simplistic though very easy so if you’re that in need of easy then well OK.

Guest
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3 years ago
Reply to  HalfACenturian

Yet again, the easy answer you’ve chosen is that everyone else is wrong. Again you have missed the point of the following sentence- that all sorts of assumptions were being made WITHOUT evidence. I never said his mother’s remarks justify anything. In fact it’s just another irrelevance in the article that has 99% irrelevance.

Guess
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Guess
3 years ago

Ooo poor me gtfo here with your excuses, he’s a drug dealer squatting illegally on public land, if I parked my camp trailer there and lived in it they would tow it and fine my ass too, for being so smart he sure is stupid no sympathy for me save it for the real non self inflicted mental cases that actually need help, that being said they need to give the the guy a chance to get his house back that’s some bullshit.

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3 years ago

I suggest this man reconnect with his family in Seattle and see if the Salvation Army will help him with residential rehab or a waiting list for such. Staying in a rural county living on the side of the road is not going to help him successfully adult in anyway.

I am reminded of other men I have met in the course of my life who moved far away from their families to do whatever they felt they couldn’t get away with around them. Sounds like this mom is a good parent who had set some education expectations.

Unfortunately, many men grow up and have no idea how to take care of themselves. Some marry the first woman that mothers them so they never have to wash the bottom of a plate or do laundry. The world just doesn’t meet their expectations once they hit adulthood and fail to marry mom.

HalfACenturian
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3 years ago
Reply to  guest`

If family wasn’t enough the first time around why assume it is now. No matter how “Good” she is by a few sentence assessment here your prescription is so easily simplistic you might as well just prescribe bandaids for every injury which is pretty much how our mental health and social services work or rather don’t work.

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guest`
3 years ago
Reply to  HalfACenturian

Ok. Let him do whatever feels good at the moment. He can put up a house even if he doesn’t have a title, on land he doesn’t own, and sell Fentanyl. No one expects him to wash his own ass. He can piss where the hell he wants to when he wakes up in the middle of the night. I’m just an asshole for not agreeing with that and suggesting he go get some help from the Salvation Army who do have a residential rehab program.

This guy has an education. If he cleaned up he could start having a better life instead of selling drugs on the side of the road and being attacked with a machete. This is just dumb shit.

Enough already
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Enough already
3 years ago

A little disappointed in this story. Sounds more like an effort of a defense attorney to sway the jury pool to his opinion of the case. Everything seems to be someone else’s fault and he has no responsibility for any of his situations. Why wasn’t the guy who donated the ” tiny home” interviewed about what he knows.

And if being ” homeless” allows an individual to place a structure any place you want on “public land”, I am looking at obtaining a beach front property along the coastal access of Hwy 101…no worry of paying sewer or garbage, no paying property taxes, fighting building codes, or enviromental impact study requirements. Guess I have been doing it all wrong.

HalfACenturian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Enough already

There are victims. Easy to ignore community responsibility and look where that is getting us…..nationally as well as locally.

fred krissman
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fred krissman
3 years ago

Great work, as usual, Shakti!

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3 years ago
Reply to  fred krissman

Well certainly work as usual anyway.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  fred krissman

Thanks dear Fred 🙂 what’s the solution? Wish I knew.

Mike Morgan
Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Having adults own up to being adults and assuming responsibility for their actions and the debts they incur is a good start.

That shirt and that haircut and his attitude that he is “owed” a good job is why he’s doing shit jobs and allegedly selling drugs.

His fault. But while he’s breathing, there’s hope. America is still a land of opportunity.

HalfACenturian
Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

It’s a team effort and reporting work such as yours is a vital piece, often pivotal for change that would not have happened otherwise (as I recently learned about the Cosby situation and also I think R-Kelly); documentary’s, necessarily length unless simple, sloppy but swift judgements are considered sufficient.

guest
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guest
3 years ago

The Martin vs Boise ruling states that a person cannot be arrested for sleeping on public property, But that they cannot set up permanent camps. The judge purposely left out public lands as that would have included State parks, And National parks. So it basically covers only property owned by counties and cities.

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3 years ago
Reply to  guest

The minute individual judge’s ruling became broad precedent , crap is sure to follow. Stare decisis has gone way, way too far. To the rejoicing of professional litigators.

fellow trinidadian
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fellow trinidadian
3 years ago

Nothing but evasive non-answers to everything. This guy wasn’t harming anything out there, what a waste of time and resources.

Guest
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Guest
3 years ago

Unfortunately, government is barred from disclosing much of anything about private parties while private parties can make any sort of statement they want about government. To the cheers of those who like to blame government.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Government is barred from disclosing what? It would have been fairly simple I think to answer these basic questions about his tiny home that went missing. No?

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3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

No.

guest`
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3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

Do you have a title for the home?

Anon.
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Anon.
3 years ago

Right, he’s just one guy, he’s not doing anything, why couldn’t they leave him alone.

Mike Morgan
Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Anon.

He was stealing public land and affecting drainage onto a highway.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Morgan

It’s not possible for his camp to impact the drainage, it is below the highway. The Caltrans workers did place a mound of dirt above his camp by the concrete barriers that caused run off. Shawn fixed that with no adverse environmental impact that I could see. It was essentially the same thing people do to their driveway, detouring water to avoid a muddy mess.

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3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

But it wasn’t his driveway…he doesn’t have a title for the house…the house might not even be titled at all….he declined to press charges or say who attacked him when the police asked…he took the wheels off the house and leveled it knowing that he could be evicted at any time…he was just charged with dealing drugs…he seems to have income because of all the security and tools he claimed he owned…he claimed he owned a generator…he has a car…he went on vacation for Thanksgiving instead of going to court…..

I realize you like this guy and you think CalTrans and the Police are just blue meanies who should just give back his house.

I see him differently, I think he could stop being a bum if he tried, just like his mom.
He just doesn’t want to pay back his student loans so he is living off grid and working under the table. He gets his food stamps. He gets his hospital care down the road. He gets his community out to feel guilty over his oppression! It’s all a con.
There isn’t anything wrong with him that rehab, a haircut, a job, and a kick in the ass wouldn’t solve. Drug addicts aren’t babies. Stop treating him like some helpless victim. He had a good family, he had education from a decent school, he isn’t “oppressed”, he is just a stubborn man who has decided he was owed a free education and now he is owed a free home on free land.

Robert Burton
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Robert Burton
3 years ago

Even a vampire deserves due process… maybe you don’t buy the argument that we should be able to handle things pragmatically in a small town but there’s no excuse for this kafkaesque behavior. Surely the home had to move eventually but to put on a stiff upper lip and thrash apart someone’s already difficult life, to ultimately steal from them under the color of law without a tinge of guilt… this isn’t the high moral character I’d like to see in my government employees; evil is banal and is most often committed by ordinary people who don’t recognize it as anything but mundane behavior…

Excellent article, I want to know about all forms of violence done in the name of our community so we can judge for ourselves–even the quiet forms like this.

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Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  Robert Burton

I really appreciate the comment Robert, thanks!

Vermin Supreme
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Vermin Supreme
3 years ago

An incredible level of BS being shoveled by CalTrans AND CHP. They knew exactly what they were doing. That tiny home is sitting on a CalTrans workers property or being used as a hunting cabin for some of “the boys.”

So corrupt… And big surprise, no one cares because he is black and homeless. Some of the people commenting should be ashamed of themselves. This is government collusion and corruption at its finest. The media is this man’s ONLY recourse, and Kym had the courage to post it. Good for you Kym.

We need more reporters willing to expose the blatant corruption and injustice rampant in this county.

Ryan Hunter
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Ryan Hunter
3 years ago
Reply to  Vermin Supreme

I think they are both to blame, he did place it on public land that was not his, but what CalTran did was also wrong. When you are living somewhere illegally you can not be surprised when you get kicked out, but they should give him back his house. Honestly this who article seems confusing and it hard to tell who is to blame, which you can see by the comments being made.

Guest
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3 years ago
Reply to  Ryan Hunter

Have him sign a release giving CalTrans authority to disclose information. But that never seems to be done. Details matter. Otherwise it’s just lobbying.

Vermin Supreme
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Vermin Supreme
3 years ago
Reply to  Ryan Hunter

Oh in no way am I under the impression that this guy is totally innocent. But when government agencies use their position of power and authority to act like common criminals. We have a problem. And I think it’s pretty obvious that this is NOT their first rodeo…. That should be the thing that scares people.

These guys saw something they wanted, knew Shawn wouldn’t be able to do shit about it, had the cops back them up, screwed the guy outright, and now that they get busted, start covering each others asses like there is no tomorrow. Every single person involved should be charged and lose their job. Will that happen? No. Because the people that SHOULD be charging these guys are the ones in on it, and probably benefitting from it.

It’s disgusting. And absolute proof that these people hired to promote the common good and protect the community, paid by OUR tax dollars, have zero interest in doing so. At least not for a homeless guy. If it were one of the people that live down the road in Redway
(in a house) , trust and believe. Charges filed. Property found and returned. I don’t think I can say disgusting enough.

Farce
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Farce
3 years ago
Reply to  Vermin Supreme

I fully agree. [edit] This sounds a little like that old coroner scandal- divvying up and giving away dead peoples’ possessions. Yeah- they do that stuff and I bet that’s what happened here too. Because they knew they could bully their way through it. You go get ’em, Reporter! Nail those suckers down

deadmanwalkingwmd
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deadmanwalkingwmd
3 years ago
Reply to  Vermin Supreme

We always steal from the poor. It is a lot easier than stealing from the rich.

Cece Reece
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Cece Reece
3 years ago

This story illustrates a pitiful spiral of houseless folks; suffering from unresolved PTSD caused by childhood trauma and can’t focus well enough to hold a job, then suffers a brain injury when attacked in the HEAD with an AXE and can’t make an informed choice about reporting the crime, or certainly sort out all the logistics of moving his home. I don’t know about the rest of you readers, but I suffered just a run-of-the-mill concussion falling off a bike on a hill and my brain was scrambled for quite a while!

I make the following recommendations as the parent of a brain-injured adult son who I managed to resurrect from a short stint of houselessness–

  1. apply for income-sensitive student loan repayment program. He is so poor that he won’t have to make any payments, but each month will apply to ultimate forgiveness.
  2. Compassionate neighbors like the guy who gave him the tiny home, help him rehome his dog, although this will likely cause further trauma. Perhaps those who are caring for the dog while he is incarcerated? A pet is not a right, it is an extravagance that costs money to care for properly. It is also a HUGE impediment to finding and maintaining housing.
  3. Go to county mental health and request services. Also follow-up with brain injury care. The County Jail is responsible for providing this once they know that he has an injury. This man would benefit from EMDR therapy to resolve childhood trauma standing in the way of his ability to navigate the responsibilities of adulthood. Efficacy studies demonstrate that EMDR is far more effective than any other therapeutic modalities in resolution of PTSD.
  4. When he gets out of jail, he should go to Betty Chinn’s for help. Many times they have more than one option for shelter. Workers there will help him access the services he needs to stay out of the rain, and eventually find stable housing.
  5. Law enforcement needs to do its duty in at least questioning the individual thought to be responsible for the axe attack. This individual is a menace to the community whether or not the victim has enough clarity to file charges and testify. Failing due diligence in this case is tantamount to saying the houseless should be axed in the head! It establishes a dangerous precedence that attempted murder is okay as long as it’s targeting a houseless person.
HalfACenturian
Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Cece Reece

Thank you for this!!! So much work, life experience and helpful thoroughness in your comment. That your son has a caring family is so vital for finding and coordinating and filling holes for whatever services are and are not there.
And i will caution about county mental health; many good people there and many good get the out asap to other jobs because those running it are doing more harm to people than good. How much of the problem is funding and community priorities I cant venture to guess and lack of independent oversight is absolutely a vital missing link. EMDR is helpful for some forms of PTSD and absolutely not all and it gets mentioned as a “Resolution” instead of a treatment though it may be the former it is often just the latter. If he has childhood trauma which of course his family may not be privy to in addition to the attack in addition to the traumatizing effects of being homeless EMDR may not be nearly enough nor even effective. My opinion is based on much research and experience and input from researchers who advocate for EMDR. Dogs are not a right and they are good for mental heath and would be great if people in need had assistance rather than that money goin only to overcrowded shelters where animals spend months or even years suffering. Also I paid off student loans in my 50s, after leaving school mostly after 6th grade to support myself full-time and acquired them when hardworking yet poor and there was no forgiveness so unless things have changed that isn’t a thing.  Old brain injuries are not always diagnosed nor treated yet in this case it could be recent enough also victim-witness funds used to be around decades ago for help with therapy but not much so not necessarily good quality/appropriate therapY. Betty Chin does not help people with active PTSD and by necessity and because we expect too much of a one woman organization (led though there is a team of support) to deal with the lack of mental health care (though with a more straight forward source of physical injury and subsequent PTSD he might get better care than say people who suffered horrendous childhood trauma and one more life event kicks them over the edge no matter being hardworkers, smart and even educated).

Crap
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Crap
3 years ago

Sounds like he has had. Combination of bad luck and poor choices in life . I will not comment directly on his conviction because I dont.even know what it was however most people that commit crimes.either deny or.minimize.it. it could be the case for him. It is possable.to get many crimes expunged off your record. He.might want to look at that

As for not being able.to make a living wage. I get it. HUMBOLDT SUCKS.FOR THAT. between high cost of.living and high taxes it is time to move and get.on your feet.

Public land is for everyone to use.not for.homelles to.set.up housing and.live. Time to get.on.his feet.and get.on with.it. he.sounds very capable.

HalfACenturian
Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Crap

Without a good lawyer and money for that and ability to shop around bogus charges by EPD are absurdly difficult which I’d not have believed before witnessing many things in my late 50s. Even if dropped, that they were charged is not expunged..there for anyone to call downtown and find out and for too many that is enough no matter charges dropped to affect housing and employment. Section 8 requires being told of charges even if dropped..they ask about charges not convictions.

Country Joe
Member
3 years ago

This man is healthy and there’s no reason he shouldn’t have a job to support himself. Help wanted signs are posted everywhere…People must stop enabling vagrants, criminals, bums and drug dealers.

HalfACenturian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Country Joe

Jobs with a living wage that affords housing that can be done with a brain injury? Waitlists for low income housing are years long.

Anon.
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Anon.
3 years ago

Why can’t they give him his tiny house back?

Anon.
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Anon.
3 years ago
Reply to  Anon.

This really does remind me of the movie “the hunger games,” miles of beautiful land, nobody is allowed on it, somebody caught on it isn’t treated like a human being. He’s in the middle of nowhere, not close to town, in the wilderness, couldn’t they have just let this one go, and have left him alone, what’s the harm?

Guest
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3 years ago
Reply to  Anon.

The ten other people he invites to stay there too? Or maybe he was the ten invited ones… something was mention about a homeless camp clean up.

Anon.
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Anon.
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

There were 10 people in his camp? Does that mean whoever took his tiny house doesn’t have to give it back? What is your suggestion?

Mike Morgan
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3 years ago
Reply to  Anon.

What color is the sky on your planet?

Anon.
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Anon.
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Morgan

What color is the sky on yours? What do you suggest? Should he not be given back his tiny house?

Rodney Covington
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Rodney Covington
3 years ago

No one cares about this guy.
The community is sick and tired of the homeless bums ruining our small community.
The locals have ZERO tolerance for these loosers. They all need to be run out of town. No one should be allowed to live in there tiny home for free, all the camps need to be torn down and the drug addicts run out of town.

Mike Morgan
Member
3 years ago

It is the only way. As harsh as that sounds. Look at the streets of San Francisco, that one-time wonderful city…
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/View/index.html?appid=b6fab720912642b6aedafdb02a76d2a4

Mike Morgan
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3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Morgan

Disgusting… And that ain’t the worst…

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Sick
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Sick
3 years ago

Many locals participate like this guy. It’s not just homeless thing

The Real Brian
Member
3 years ago

Not interested in this story but you should know I stopped reading at 10 paragraph where you have a unnecessary period in a sentence.

Starts with When Lloyd began camping…

Can’t believe no one has said anything.

Kym Kemp
Admin
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Fixed.

Sandra Lin gle
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Sandra Lin gle
3 years ago

The comments that people made are real nasty and hateful The bottom line is the caltrans and cop bullies had no right to steal this mans house Remember haters if they can steal his they can steal yours

Zipline
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Zipline
3 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Lin gle

I have guns and a title.

guest`
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guest`
3 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Lin gle

I have a title. No.

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3 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Lin gle

If he owned it in the first place. No one asked pointed questions of him anyway. So we don’t know. There is only the usual complaint that reporters repeat about not getting priority responses from bureaucracies. As if that was the only way to check his story. Then followed by how busy the reporters are and they don’t have time to do better. The public pays for this natural tug of war between government and reporter self interests by having the reporter owning the soap box. That fact should make everyone wary of the stories they read even if it fits their oen beliefs. We depend on the integrity of journalism itself to get a proper understanding. Without their own standards for that, every story is likely to be more wrong than right. We’ll never know.

Sick
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Sick
3 years ago

How bout a better article. How about how vagrants AND local former pot farmers have turned to Fetty for income. Wonder how some folks who didn’t go legal are still riding in fly cars and going on fat vacations? They didn’t want to give up the life style and have turned to harder drugs to peddle, since there’s more $ in that vs pot. If you don’t do it or know someone who does it, then you have no clue about what’s really going on. There are multiple locations throughout the camps, and house’s in our towns, who are dealing this death game of roulette. It wouldn’t take much research or surveillance, as a reporter to figure it out. They are so comfortable with what they do now, it plays out right under our noses. But yes let’s worry bout the tiny home of someone who only cares bout the $ he takes from my loved one and then eventually my loved one’s life.

HalfACenturian
Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Sick

Most crimes are committed by housed and therefore less publicized.

Nichole Norris
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Nichole Norris
3 years ago
Reply to  Sick

I actually spoke to sheriff Honsal in a recent interview about this matter, how the failing cannabis industry and economy seems to be exacerbating crime and hard drug use. I’m worried for our entire community.

BUT blaming any single person for the circumstances isn’t fair or effective. These conditions are totally predictable and found in almost every boarded up industry town. That’s why it’s important to raise the issues, all the issues.

Do you think we would change anything by tracing back hard drugs to where they came from? That’s been tried, it’s the basis for the failed drug war. I am of the mindset that we need a holistic approach that addresses why someone uses drugs. As long as people need/want drugs, someone will be there to provide them.

Sick
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Sick
3 years ago
Reply to  Nichole Norris

As long as folks are allowed to continue peddling these drugs right next door, the problems will only get worse that’s a given. To those who thumbs down my comment, so glad my spite towards dealers is looked down upon more than the fact this man or others will be and already are responsible for the deaths of many in this community already. That’s blood on your hands for catering to these death dealers! They don’t care bout my loved one, so why should I cater to them? Get your heads out of the sand before it’s too late or next it’ll be someone you know that’s gone and then you might think differently, only it’ll be to late for your loved one! As for sheriff’s they don’t give a damn. Probably even accept $ to look away. If you spent the night outside, you’d see exactly where all these addicts go, obtain, then use. It’s not hard to see unless you’re not paying attention cause that’s not your scene. Look in-between the lines and you’ll be shocked, saddened and pissed!

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Guest
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Guest
3 years ago

This CalTrans information might be helpful…

https://dot.ca.gov/programs/public-affairs/media-inquiries

(Tap for full screen)

Maybe Cori Reed might be the one to contact for answers…

@ (707) 834-9530

Or

Myles Cochrane…

(Where have I heard that name before…???)

@ (707 498-4272

Maybe the tiny home got moved to a different CalTrans yard…???

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justsayin
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justsayin
3 years ago

Two degrees from institutes of higher learning, living by the side of the freeway in a camp and an excuse for everything and someone else to blame. Perpetual victim. You go California !

I Hate Hate
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I Hate Hate
3 years ago

Holy crap, the hate here is awful!

Anon.
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Anon.
3 years ago
Reply to  I Hate Hate

There is a lot of hate. Some of the key board warriors are hateful today. They don’t care if somebody took his tiny house, and it’s freezing outside, they aren’t cold, what’s it to them.

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Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Anon.

Of course they care. What they are is not doing a knee jerk genuflexion to the press’s use of magical words like “homeless ” in a nonsensical story of the downtrodden. Nor marching in lock step into stupidity because the haters of reality usewords like racist, empathy or hateful to make them be quiet about it being nonsensical.

Homeless nor gender nor race nor disability nor political belief confer sainthood. Get over it.

Farce
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Farce
3 years ago
Reply to  I Hate Hate

Yeah well I hate the hating of hate. It’s just too much hate for me. Like when somebody says something you don’t agree with and it sounds mean to you so then you just start calling them haters. Since they don’t say ” cotton candy rainbow unicorn” and everybody hugs it makes you ….less happy in your feels….and so you assume they are speaking out of hate. Well… Time to look in that mirror-[edit]

Guest
Guest
Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  I Hate Hate

It is because this story does not make any sense, it was not researched well and there are a lot holes in what she is saying. Tiny houses need a title, and she never showed any proof he legally owned the house. Everyone wants to be able to to just take public land and put a house up, why should he get to when no else can, I think that is where a lot of the hate is coming from. The house was not taken from private property, nor does she show proof he even owned it legally.

Kym Kemp
Admin
3 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Mr. Lloyd was told verbally and in writing that he had time to claim the house with nothing said about proving ownership, but it disappeared before the time period ended. Before the time period for him to claim it ended, we requested info on it but Caltrans has yet to respond.

The Real Brian
Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Some mistress or son of a Cal Trans upper is getting a call currently;

“Hey, you know that tiny home I gave you on the low….imma gonna need that backsies.”

guest`
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guest`
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

I doubt a CT employee wants a shack that was used by a homeless guy.

The Real Brian
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3 years ago
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I wrote 2 sentences.

Try to read them 1st next time.

“…..mistress or son of a Cal Trans upper.”

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3 years ago
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If you research owning a little house, no matter what the size, it has to be be titled and registered with the state. When you car is impounded you have to show proof you own it, but they do not tell you that when they take it. She should have asked him about the title and if he had one, if he had no proof of ownership that could be a problem for him.

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3 years ago
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They never asked for proof of ownership. They didn’t say, “You can’t have it until you show you own it.” They just refuse to answer questions on it.

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3 years ago
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Anything that was confiscated and is legally required to be titled like a car or tiny house, proof of ownership would be required to pick it up. I am not saying he does not have a title, but it is something that should have been adressed in the article, all she says is someone gave him the house, which seems odd. Goverment agencis are not known for being helpful, if he has the title he should go file a complaint that it was stolen.

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3 years ago
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You know I don’t often agree with other Guests but good for you on persisting in pointing out that bona fides apply to reporting as they do in other kinds of work.

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3 years ago
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your lack of reading comprehension is really annoying. Your point is not being disputed, its just is not relevant because THEY DIDNT ASK FOR TITLE. THEY REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE QUESTION. FROM HIM AND FROM RED HEADED BLACK BELT.

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3 years ago
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I was told there was a Santa Claus but was it real? That is the first question to ask before asking who stole Santa Claus’s sleigh and diddled with his reindeer.

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3 years ago
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To claim something you must prove you own it with, in this case, a title for a HOUSE. If he has no title he can not claim it he has no proof it belongs to him. CT is not going to hand over a HOUSE with no title.

HalfACenturian
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3 years ago

For or all those assuming that some education, a family and a job are all that is needed to function in society and/or accessible by all (jobs and family that is):
Very common to have suffered trauma or even torture and not reveal it to family (lucky if it isnt a family member or friend or “trusted/respected member of community” as too often it is due to a few check boxes like many commenters list being assumption of “Respectability” etc.) ..sometimes if it happened young enough not even have words or clear memories of it. 
A degree doesn’t do anything to help severe mental injury or illness which may also have only became problematic when another experience without sufficient protective factors etc. broke the camels back, so to speak.
Remember BTK killer was married had a position in his church and had a job and Ted Bundy volunteered at a suicide hotline and was accepted to law school; jobs and other measures of success are not sufficient to assess someone thoroughly or appropriately.  I knew a man in his 60s who out of shame had not told his family about the horrible sexual abuse he suffered alone as a child…that is until he knew he was dying and told someone who knew his family who with his permission told his family. Turns out that was the missing piece to many things in the siblings’ lives that hadn’t made sense till that point though they were relatively successful and had suffered some abuse as well; they all became much closer right before he died and thereby there was some healing though too late due in large part to no mental health care and too much stigma and expectations that someone SHOULD do “WELL” if a few boxes are checked…not even dogs can be assessed that simply. We could have many more productive human beings if we broaden the definition of “Productive” to include volunteering and doing appropriate work to one’s capacities and if we provided better care/invested in those who are vulnerable.

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3 years ago
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But few get attention of reporters unless they fit the reporter’s stereotype of victimhood. It behooves a reporter making a victim out of a person trapped in a bureaucratic dilemma-which pretty common experience for everyone- does enough investigation to be able to assure their readers that they are an innocent victim. Not just a victim. Unluckily for the rest of the population, the tyranny of social justice warriors demands that their ideas are always better seem to result in more victims needing attention than less. But then the agenda is not less victims.

HalfACenturian
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3 years ago

Unless specifically requested by family or some other reason it seems premature to take down the article (can be found by searching hanging) about the man who committed suicide in the cold given the topic of homelessness is so prominent in our community, local and national.

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3 years ago
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Allegedly committed suicide…

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3 years ago

He can afford a dog?

Smokes?

Cool clothing?

And, got to go on vacation last Thanksgiving while being homeless?

And, having the cops waiting for him/his car to come back the day he returned?

BUT, cannot make it to court (and, I get the date mixup (ok…..) or, a job? And, the resources are too far away?

You HAVE A CAR. You admitted that when you said the cops were waiting for you after your Thanksgiving vacation.

I wish I had a Thanksgiving vacation. But, I was too busy paying for and burying my Mum.

Somehow, I don’t believe this IMBECILE is reading any of this. He is just hoping for a Gofundme or a big payback.

I have paid back all $54K of my student loans. It took nearly 30 years. But, that was the way I was raised.

This guy is a FOOL and so is everyone else played on here by him.

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3 years ago
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He’s not the fool here. He has received the attention he wanted. It is a valid issue whether he lost his home improperly. It’s the myriad of assumptions that he is just oh so innocent in the process that is egregious. Someone will always assume that sympathy is necessary to get attention for their chosen cause and that sympathy requires innocence.

That’s somewhat true but true innocence is rare. And, although some may say that the non innocent deserve what they got, that too is not important. Pushing the idea of victims are always deserving makes victimhood attractive and worsens problems. The idea that innocence exists just because a person lives at the edges of society fixes nothing. The worst scam artist I ever ran into was a person who really was disabled and confined to a wheelchair. She used that to create a dozen identities , file multiple disability claims and receive an income from social programs that made her very rich indeed. Then, when her scams were accidently caught and she was facing a court trial, she committed suicide. The headlines were that the agencies involved tried to take her benefits away from her and, distraught, she committed suicide. Never a mention of the dozen scams she ran. There are certainly people who let their touted “empathy” run wild and would say that she deserved her fraudulent income because she was actually disabled without thinking of the consequences of that attitude. The least of which is the idea that misfortune automatically creates entitlement.

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3 years ago
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“ATTENTION”. You nailed it.

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3 years ago

When people lose a dog they often put up missing pet signs and offer a reward. Seeing this person is incarcerated and unable to do so. Perhaps some supportive people could post signs and offer a reward for lost tiny home.

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3 years ago

Want facts? This is not the place. Want opinions confirmed. This is. A reporter would have just said what happened. That this man alleged his tiny house was taken away by CalTrans has not said what happened to it. Fine. No problem. But when it turns into a expository on homelessness complete with advocacy and attorneys, dang well better have your ducks in a line first. Dear Abby this is not.

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2 years ago

Blessings Wow, I’m certainly glad I’m here and able to clarify what is unclear, and correct what is incorrect. That way we can at least be secure in the fact that such strong conclusions, whatever they may be, are at least being based on actual fact and actual law. The effort is to steer clear of the whole assumption effect that makes the desire for productive communication all the more difficult.

Thank you Nichole Norris, Kym Kemp and everyone else in the community that took the time to discuss what is a very sensitive topic locally. I understand the dynamics going on here. I have no problem discussing with anyone, any aspect of the situation that requires clarification or elaboration. I’ll make an effort to go through and address the aspects that people may be having difficulty understanding giving the absence of necessary information. It will take some time to go through everything but every concern is important to me.

I live here too, and have been for a decade. I may not live like you live or where you live at the moment but I certainly have and sustained myself well. We all are aware of the not so distant and rapid fall of the industry that has stimulated the Emerald Triangle Economy ever since the shift from being a logging stimulated economy happened. Again, I live here too. I work, in the same industry that the vast majority of the Emerald Triangle community members work in. I work and have worked every year that I’ve lived here. I’ve worked in the hills of the beloved town of Leggett and several of the various hills throughout the SoHum community. (Big Love to my Leggett family that took me in, employed me and taught me everything I know about living in the hills and the woods). I’ve also worked for local businesses as well as many of our community festivals and events. I get paid for working like most people do and I spend the money I earn on bills and living expenses like most people do. I have to pay for things like vehicle registration, auto insurance, storage unit fees, phone service, propane, gas, water, nutrients whatever. Not sure how we arrived at the whole “Not working, unwilling to work, lazy bum” conclusion that is hindering people from giving an unbiased, thorough, assessment of the “what is.”

I appreciate you putting in so much time and work in this Nichole and for standing up for the right we posses to be correctly governed. And the right to be made aware of what our local and state government organizations are doing as it pertains to their official order of business (who they are, what function they serve, and to what extent they can go to serve that function.) I’m Certainly not onboard with hindering any government organization, private business owner or any other person for that matter, from doing whatever aspect of the job that is required of them to complete.

Just as every other employed person in the workforce is required and expected to follow the rules at work and be accountable for and learn from the mistakes that would prevent them from doing their job correctly, the same is to be required of and expected from our government business sector, government services sector, the lawmakers sector and the law enforcement sector as well. It’s their job to be correct and follow policy as it is already determined in the fabric of each sectors function.

The government checks us when we fail to follow the long list of requirements they expect us to follow and “we the people” are responsible for checking our government when they fail to follow the rules and requirements that have long been the established standard operation procedure.

I apologize for any typos in advance, just wanted to quickly touch base and start filling in the important blanks that are missing or misunderstood. I’m also opening the floor to field direct questions from those of you that may have them. Thank you again Nichole Norris and Kym Kemp, thank you for putting yourself out there for me. I understand the local reaction and other underlying feelings and intentions may be harsh and insensitive, maybe even unexpected and surprising. I’m aware that some people may be making the mistake of concluding before having all/correct information.

This is definitely a valid and credible issue to raise in the community. It’s unfortunate that people are having difficulty with understanding what is already long established as constitutional law, government law, government policy, governmental ordinances, The Municiple Codes and what ever other term we use to define the “way things are to be done.”

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2 years ago

Thank you to everyone that understands and that expressed supports. I’ve not asked for anything free or extra or for special treatment or sympathy, nor have I attempted to get over on anyone, I don’t expect anything or inquire about anything outside of the box with the hopes of being allowed to fly under the radar. Most of the people commenting don’t know me at all and those who do know that I’m quite opposite of what some strangers have concluded. I’m pretty straight forward and prefer to use well established fact coupled with logic when discussing any issue that has opposing positions.

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2 years ago

We can talk about unrelated legal matters that I’ve experienced as they do and don’t pertain to the real issue at hand. As well as the often used misconduct tactics that our law enforcement agencies, judicial system and other branches of government employ regularly. 

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2 years ago

Going to jail really screwed me up here. Would of been able to clarify and elaborate. But that was their goal…nevermind that the allegations are completely unrelated to the issue at hand. Some of the comments left were made to take the focus even further from the real issue of government agencies abusing and illegally using their power to violate constitutional and state law along with various other forms of misconduct.

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1 year ago

Interesting story, one that is unfortunately becoming more common. While Shawn is incarcerated, what happened to Molly, his dog???