Agricultural Supply Stores in Mendocino and Humboldt Counties Report Increased Sales and Shortages of Ivermectin, a Horse De-Wormer, That Some Claim Can Be Used to Treat COVID
An ivermectin containing product currently in stock at Ukiah’s Rainbow Ag. [All photos by Matt LaFever]
Regardless of ivermectin’s efficacy to treat COVID-19 symptoms, the phenomenon has come home to roost in Mendocino and Humboldt Counties with major agricultural supply stores reporting a rise in purchases, potential shortages, and fears the public’s interest in the drug could result in it being pulled from agricultural store shelves obstructing backyard animal husbandry practitioners from caring for their livestock.
Lory McAsey, the livestock salesperson of Ukiah’s Rainbow Ag, told us in the previous two weeks, store employees have fielded at least a half dozen calls per day inquiring whether ivermectin paste was in stock.
McAsey explained customers who come to Rainbow Ag for an equine/animal husbandry know what ivermectin is and what it is used for. In contrast, customers purchasing the product use a different “verbiage,” as McAsey put it, and she will actively work to explain the purpose of the product and the reality that the form of ivermectin sold in agricultural supply stores was formulated for horse consumption, rather than human.
Ukiah’s Rainbow Ag has this sign displayed to warn customers away from using their products containing ivermectin for human consumption
Another tell-tale sign a customer is interested in ivermectin for COVID-19 treatment rather than equine use is when they request ivermectin tablets, McAsey told us.
She described standing in the store aisle, attempting to dissuade a customer from purchasing it, when “I had three people step in front of me and grab the product.”
Rainbow Ag has displayed signage on the shelf warning customers of the potential dangers in using a form of ivermectin formulated for horse consumption and McAsey said she will actively work to deter customers from purchasing it.
Most customers will not divulge their intended use for the product, McAsey explained. She remembered a mother and daughter coming into the store, purchasing the product, and overhearing the daughter ask her mother as they left, “So, Mommy, are we sick.” The mother reportedly replied, “We’re not sick yet. This is just in case.”
McAsey provided context on the importance of ivermectin and de-worming products in the equine care world. She described these medications as being vital when caring for horses and there was a standard of three different chemicals used to de-worm. Horse owners will rotate those three treatments, approximately one every two months because consistent use of one builds tolerance and they must be cycled through to remain effective.
Customers of Rainbow Ag began to reach out to McAsey and management reporting social media content encouraging ivermectin as an alternative treatment for COVID-19 and to expect a run on the product. McAsey said at this point, they have “ran out of product.”
With this run on ivermectin, McAsey expressed concern they would not have IverCare, a specific brand of the horse de-worming paste favored by practitioners of animal husbandry, till December or January.
Ultimately, McAsey fears these trends could result in directives from the State of California to pull ivermectin from their shelves requiring a prescription from a veterinarian to access the drug. Livestock owners have long practiced what McAsey called “backyard animal husbandry” approaching the health care of their animals with a do-it-yourself mentality, hence these sorts of medications’ availability in agricultural supply stores. If ivermectin was to be pulled from the shelves, McAsey expressed concern about the financial burden of seeking a veterinarian for the medications.
An employee at Redway Feed and Garden Supply said they too have seen an increase in the sale of products containing ivermectin. The employee told us the store has experienced an influx of calls regarding their stock of the medication.
Most of these customers actually request a liquid form of ivermectin, possibly similar to this product, but when told Redway Feed and Garden Supply exclusively carries the paste form of the product, the customers “don’t seem interested in that.”
Nathan Nilsen, a fifth-generation co-owner of Eureka agricultural supply Nilsen Company, said currently it is difficult to secure stock of ivermectin due to the increase in demand.
Nilsen recounted speaking with a customer who was purchasing the product asking, “Is this for a horse?” The customer simply replied, “No, it’s for me.”
Regarding concerns for customers ingesting the ivermectin products sold at his store, Nilsen said, “It’s a paste designed for horses, not humans. Only 1.2% of the tube is ivermectin. It’s the other ingredients that could get you in trouble.”
Mendocino County Public Health Officer Dr. Andy Coren spoke to the rise of ivermectin and the medical concerns of using it to treat COVID-19.
Providing the current medical understanding of ivermectin, Dr. Coren explained the drug is used for its anti-parasitic properties in humans and used in the veterinary field for de-worming. He added, when being used to treat humans, ivermectin is often a drug of last resort due to a significant amount of risks associated with using it.
Common side effects of the ivermectin, Dr. Coren said, are “rashes, itching, fever, swollen glands, headaches, muscle aches, dizziness, rapid heartbeat, conjunctivitis, and eye inflammation.” More serious and uncommon side effects include, “hepatitis, bleeding in the eye, vision loss, asthma, a skin reaction in which the skin dies, internal allergic reaction, Steve Johnson’s syndrome, rapid heartbeat, low blood pressure, and seizures.”
As to the rise of ivermectin in the era of COVID-19, Dr. Coren said the drug is sought “out of fear.” He went on to say users of ivermectin “are afraid of COVID, but they are more afraid of the vaccine and they want some protection against COVID.”
Another horse de-worming medication that contains ivermectin available at Rainbow Ag.
Underpinning this push for alternative treatments to COVID-19 is a culture of internet research, and a politicized news media that fuels distrust of institutions like the Federal Drug Administration and the Center for Disease Control.
He specified that the risks assumed by users of ivermectin “far outweigh the risks associated with vaccines.”
Except for claims within “misinformation and disinformation”, Dr. Coren said there is no medical evidence that ivermectin is beneficial when treating COVID-19 nor in its use as prophylactic against the virus.
Dr. Coren did give ground that pharmaceutical companies have historically “pushed things they shouldn’t push” and behaved in a way that would diminish the public’s trust. That being said, he argued that proponents of Ivermectin and other alternative medicines are using this suspicion to discount the totality of the FDA, which he asserts “performs a vital role in protecting the citizens.”
“The effective medicine against COVID is vaccination,” Dr. Coren said, and “the side effects from bleach to ivermectin are extremely high.”
For those that claim the FDA is expediting COVID-19 vaccinations without ensuring their safety, Dr. Coren reminded the public that the agency has “taken a long time to make a decision regarding children’s vaccinations and boosters” gathering research and data to inform their guidance. He also pointed towards the FDA not initially accepting Johnson and Johnson’s vaccine and gathering more data and research before emergency approval.
Dr. Coren’s ultimate recommendation was for anyone hoping to protect themselves from the complications of COVID-19 to get vaccinated: “The only way to avoid this illness is
vaccination. It worked with chickenpox, diphtheria, and tetanus. The COVID-19 vaccine is more effective and safer than any vaccine in history.”
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Parasites and worms are NOT viruses.
Viruses are small obligate intracellular parasites
No. Viruses are particles of DNA. They’re not organisms, they’re not even cells. Parasites are at least single-celled organisms (giardia) to multi-celled organisms such as tapeworms.
A virus is often described as a parasite by virologists. It is not hard to understand why. There are different kinds encyclopedias in the world you know
Sure… and covid is a VIRUS, not a DISEASE.
A pathogenic virus becomes a disease when it infects the host
Sometimes I wonder if there should be a minimum bar for participation .. smh.
CoViD = Corona Virus Disease which, wait for it .. is caused by the Corona Virus SARS-Cov-2
A ‘disease’ is something wrong with your body (or your mind, or a plant or some other organism), often caused by a pathogen like a virus though that’s far from the only potential cause.
Well, look at the bright side. This might just counteract the tendency of humans to devolve into something like the movie Idiocrasy.
Of course viruses are parasitic , do you know the definition?
Viruses do not have a metabolism. They don’t eat. They don’t have a means of locomotion. All they are is a strand of DNA inside a shell made of protein. No mitochondria. No endoplasmic reticulum. No ribosomes. They are nothing like a normal living cell. Nowhere near as complex as a bacterium. All they do is replicate.
😂😂😂if you say so
All of that is obvious. You are trying too hard, doing mental gymnastics. Like I said there are different ways of using language, and different encyclopedias in this world depending on your field of study. You’re not the only person that went to school or studied things
Thank you Kym for allowing people to know that Ivermectin works and is the way we can beat COVID. You’re very brave.
I think someone would be absolutely crazy for taking an untested product [basically untested at treating COVID–there have been some small studies with contradictory results] with dangerous side effects to treat COVID when the vaccine is available and has literally been used effectively by billions of people to prevent COVID per a number of studies.
Taking a tiny dose of prevention which has been proven effective vs a large amount of horse de-wormer which has only a few studies supporting its use and no large [US] medical organizations supporting its use…that’s not understanding the reality and playing the odds.
Untested? Ivermectin has been used by millions if not billions of people already to treat covid, yet you sit here and push Vax on people with serious and deadly side effects. You are part of the problem
Can you link to some solid information supporting that?
https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/Fulltext/2021/08000/Ivermectin_for_Prevention_and_Treatment_of.7.aspx
Studies are ongoing. BUT, at this time, Merck, the company that developed ivermectin, and has the most to gain from it being found to be an effective treatment is still saying not to use it to treat or prevent COVID-19 https://www.merckvetmanual.com/news/editorial/2021/08/30/15/43/do-not-use-ivermectin-to-treat-or-prevent-covid-19. They can be wrong. But they have an economic interest in ivermectin being of value in treating COVID…and they still don’t see the connection.
Kym,
As stated many times here Ivermectin is OFF-PATENT. any company can make it.
Are any of those other companies hawking it as a Covid cure?
Yes, it is off patent but Merck is one of the largest manufacturers.
It’s too cheap. Billions of doses at pennies per dose (that they can’t monopolize) versus 10’s of dollars per dose…
No way Merck could get a kick back or it’s shareholders are vested in a vaccine maker, just no wayyyy.
So true and Merck is going to put out a new drug for covid that is only a few molecules off from ivermectin. This drug will have a patent and cost a ridiculous amount of money. It’s important to note that it doesn’t work as well as ivermectin. Go to the FLCCC and listen to doctors that are treating covid daily. Not to mention ivermectin has an amazing safety protocol so there’s really no lose in taking it. Either it helps and no side effects or it doesn’t and no side effects.
FLCCC? 🤣😂😅🥲
Ivmmeta.com
Ivermectin is off patent. It costs $1 per pill. I bought some online from India for next to nothing. Merck HAS NOTHING to gain.
Manufacturers of off patent medicines still make money from them.
Just not as much…
Absolutely true.
100% evidence that you only get your information from main stream fake news.
Ivermectin is FDA approved, used safely for decades and received the Nobel Prize. You will see the fake news cry, “it’s not FDA approved for the CCP virus”! Duh, because they are in cahoots and providing cover for political and big pharma partners. You’re welcome.
Billions? You have got to be kidding. Please tell me you are joking
4 billion doses administered is the last number I heard. It’s common and effective if you live in Africa. Take a look at the covid epidemic there.
Well, of course it is!
Parasites – Onchocerciasis (also known as River Blindness)
The disease is called river blindness because the blackfly that transmits the infection lives and breeds near fast-flowing streams and rivers, mostly near remote rural villages. The infection can result in visual impairment and sometimes blindness.
Onchocerciasis, or river blindness – CDC
It turns out it has more applications than river blindness.
It kills parasitic organisms. Organisms are composed of living cells. Viruses are not living organisms. They have no metabolism. They don’t eat. Don’t have sex. They have no mitochondria or other organelles that living cells, including bacteria have. All they are is a strand of DNA inside a shell made of protein.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/
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There are few drugs that can seriously lay claim to the title of ‘Wonder drug’, penicillin and aspirin being two that have perhaps had greatest beneficial impact on the health and wellbeing of Mankind. But ivermectin can also be considered alongside those worthy contenders, based on its versatility, safety and the beneficial impact that it has had, and continues to have, worldwide—especially on hundreds of millions of the world’s poorest people.
Today, ivermectin is being increasingly used worldwide to combat other diseases in humans, such as Strongyloidiasis (which infects some 35 million each year), scabies (which causes 300 million cases annually), Pediculosis, Gnathostomiasis and Myiasis—and new and promising properties and uses for ivermectin and other avermectin derivatives are continuing to be found.58) These include activity against another neglected tropical disease, Leishmaniasis.59,60) Of perhaps even greater significance is the evidence that the use of ivermectin has both direct and indirect beneficial impact on improving community health. Studies of long-term treatment with ivermectin to control Onchocerciasis have shown that use of the drug is additionally associated with significant reduction in the prevalence of infection with any soil-transmitted helminth parasites (including Ascaris, Trichuris and hookworm), most or all of which are deemed to be major causes of the morbidity arising from poor childhood nutrition and growth.61) It is also known that the prevalence of head lice is markedly reduced in children taking ivermectin tablets62) and that scabies is markedly reduced in populations taking the drug regularly.63) Above all, ivermectin has proved to be a medicine of choice for the world’s rural poor. In many underprivileged communities throughout the tropics, intestinal worms and parasitic skin diseases are extremely common and associated with significant morbidity. They usually co-exist, with many individuals infected with both ecto- and endoparasites.64,65) Mass treatment of poly-parasitized populations is deemed to be the best means of control and ivermectin is the ideal drug for such interventions. A recent study in Brazil, using locally produced ivermectin, looked at the impact on internal helminthes and parasitic skin diseases.
OK, so where is the clinical test(s) on ivermectin treating viruses? You mentioned various organisms like scabies, internal helminthes, parasitic skin diseases.
these are typical parasites, not viruses or bacteria. Not all pathogenic diseases are considered parasitic. Tapeworms, lung worms, etc, are parasites. Covid is not. You need to get the definition of viruses and parasites correctly or go home.
Where are the clinical tests on ivermectin vs. covid or other viruses?
This is a quote from the NIH, not from me. Ivermectin is very beneficial in many scenarios. Anecdotally it helps treat the coof. Take it or dont. I don’t care.
It’s not a “quote from the NIH”, it’s a quote from a report that was submitted to the National Library of Medicine so that medical researchers could read it for free and laugh at how ridiculously bad it it. The NIH has not endorsed the article or the conclusions it jumps to.
“You need to get the definition of viruses and parasites correctly or go home”
(After a CNN witch-hunt, with teams of forensic investigators, and millions of dollars, every stone unturned, they came to the shocking conclusion that the commenter, ulr, was actually HOME when he posted).
Its a Zinc Ionophore that allows zinc into the cell to fight virus infection. Same thing as Quercitin or Hydroxy.
4 Billion. And on the WHO’s list of essential medicines. How’s that booster shot comin along?
See Marc comment above you
Ivan that is either misinformation or disinformation.
It’s a damn lie
It has been estimated that one in three people in the world has taken Ivermectin. Also, please read the Conclusions on this page:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/
See Conclusions – “The oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified.” How much more do you need?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/
The linked paper is from the FLCCC. I would need a study performed by and/or supported by reputable sources.
From a link on the NIH page at the top of the linked paper.
DisclaimerThis disclaimer relates to PubMed, PubMed Central (PMC), and Bookshelf. These three resources are scientific literature databases offered to the public by the U.S. National Library of Medicine (NLM). NLM is not a publisher, but rather collects, indexes, and archives scientific literature published by other organizations. The presence of any article, book, or document in these databases does not imply an endorsement of, or concurrence with, the contents by NLM, the National Institutes of Health (NIH), or the U.S. Federal Government.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/about/disclaimer/
Wait so do you have a complaint about the way the study was conducted? Are you asserting that the study iss inherently flawed because of your feelings about the publisher?
Scientific publications have to be reviewed by a panel of experts in the field who scrutinize every detail of the experimental design, data processing, statistics, and whether the conclusions drawn are fully supported by the evidence provided.
The publication you believe is an authority is just a database that publishes anything submitted to it with no review. Read the disclaimer at the head of the article. It’s a warning that the information may not be based on valid science. Out in the MAGAverse people just make up whatever “alternative facts” they need to make their argument. Out here in the observable universe evidence is required to establish facts.
There is no valid scientific study that has found ivermectin to be effective against viral infection.
You’ve been had again.
Soooo your complaint with the study is…it doesn’t prove your presumed truth?
This comment section proves that Democrats cannot respond to logic or critical thinking, only to their own propaganda
Well, it seems that some people have so politized a disease that they see anyone who isn’t on their side must be a Democrat. Instead of, you know, people who aren’t swayed by the latest craze in disinformation.
Well said Former. They’re really good at copy and pasting propaganda in place of an actual argument tho.
I’m a ‘leftist’ and I have Ivermectin in my medicine cabinet. I don’t view this as a right left thing and no one should
If you take ivermectin and experience neck or back pain, unexplained sleepiness, red eyes, confusion, shortness of breath, or trouble standing or walking, call 911 right away or go to the nearest emergency room. Other side effects include tiredness, loss of energy, stomach pain, loss of appetite, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, dizziness. Medical News Today
Forget the ER, call your local Veterinarian!
Goodd advice for gene altering jabs, as well.
These are the same side effects of NUMEROUS medications………..
I’ve been eating it for two months. Zero side effects; I feel great. How bout you? Had a D Dimer test yet?
Oh Snap! Play nice.
I’m trying. But most of them are too ignorant to know what a D Dimer test is anyway. And I sincerely don’t wish death on them as they wish on me!
Does it go better with hay or oats?
Yogurt. Can’t even taste it.
If they are stupid enough to take an animal med, they are probably going to wait until the side effects are truly bad before going to admit what they did at the emergency room. What I don’t understand is why if they are going to try ivermectin (I don’t plan to try it myself) why don’t they go to their GP and claim they have pinworm. At least then they would be getting the human version in an appropriate human dosage.
I think someone would be absolutely crazy for taking an untested product with dangerous side effects to treat COVID
This is kinda how we feel about the VACCINE!
Amen
Except that the vaccine is tested for years now
Just crossed a year since the first doses were given to the first clinical trial participants in June of 2020
Proof please.
Long term (5+ years), vetted and peer reviewed by American Front Line Docs.
You can’t provide it — this proof of safety and efficacy does not exist.
It’s a scam you are promoting. I gene altering weapon for purposes other than the wuhan flu.
“Peer reviewed” does not mean what you think it means, and the “American Front Line Docs” are a handful of disgraced quacks.
Proof of safety is that billions of people have been vaccinated over the past year. Very, very, very few people have had adverse reactions to the vaccine. You’re probably going to point at the VAERS “database” now, so I’m going to go ahead and tell you now that literally anyone can make a VAERS report without it being based in reality. I could make a VAERS report right now that the COVID vaccine turned my hair purple and caused me to start speaking French.
Proof of efficacy is that fully vaccinated people are contracting COVID at much, much lower rates than the unvaccinated, and of the small fraction of vaccinated people who do get breakthrough cases, a much smaller percentage of them die than unvaccinated people.
” Very, very, very few people have had adverse reactions to the vaccine.”
Enlighten us all. How many deaths/serious adverse reactions have there been?
YES!👐👏👐👏👐👏👐👏
” I could make a VAERS report right now that the COVID vaccine turned my hair purple and caused me to start speaking French.”
You could do that. It would be a federal crime, but you could do it
A network of Russian marketing companies known for selling dubious nutritional supplements and pushing malware is behind a disinformation campaign to denigrate Western coronavirus vaccines, according to a new RFE/RL investigation. rferl.org
Please, comrade, just select link on below to see how so wrong you are.
http://www.putinsexyhorseyman.ru
Okay, so I was quite amused when the fake website I created in my post above showed up as a link. I’m a bit scared to try it. If someone likes not-so-sexy shirtless senior aged men with saggy tits on horseback then give the link a try and let us know if a naked Putin shows up in front of your fireplace on a Siberian Tiger rug.
The main thing here is that you think Hilary won.
Here we go again
Russia, Russia, Russia
And you talk about other people spreading propaganda and disinformation
Normally vaxs are studied 1 layer of progress after another.
The reason this happened so fast is that all 6 layers were done during near the same period of time.
As in, those phases were overlapped rather than in a string.
As usual, on this subject, you are misinformed
I won’t say you are wrong since I don’t know where your information came from or which vaccine you are referring to, but I will say you are partly incorrect or wholly disingenuous. The mRNA carriers for vaccines have been studied for decades. The new part is the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein addition. Of course, I wouldn’t expect a well respected scientific publication like Nature to meet your standards for scientific rigor and ethics.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w
Do you realize that the Robert Malone exalted in that linked paper is advising against this vaccine?
Really? Can you document that in any way? Isn’t the virus new (novel) as of late 2019? If so, the vaccines against it can’t possibly have been tested for years. I think you are either mistaken or outright lying.
https://speakingofresearch.com/2021/08/27/human-mrna-vaccine-trials-in-the-2010s-a-history-lesson-in-animal-research/
Kym . Really . You are shaking the pom poms so hard for team jab.
We had this discussion already. I provided multiple links to data from early mRNA research and failures . Please don’t make me find them again.
mRNA technology is rife with challenges it was all but abandoned by 2017!! And if not for Covid dollar 💰 signs 🤑 the attention of the vaccine manufacturers would have never been sparked.
Even if we take your supporting document at face value, I have to point out the glaring flaw in that, they were trialed in an oncology setting !
Cancer is not corona virus . AND how- please tell me -do they rule out cancer risk? These were limited -most were very few test subjects- trials. If cancer has already been diagnosed in the test subject there is NO reassurance that malignancies or blood cancers are not a risk is there? I’m uncomfortable with that. And know other people are as well.
It upsets me that you accept this kind of “data” in your link, as adequate, and worse , that you turn around and tell your readers
Rah! Rah! mRNA!! 📣📣📣
A mysterious marketing agency secretly offered to pay social media stars to spread disinformation about Covid-19 vaccines. Their plan failed when the influencers went public about the attempt to recruit them. bbc.com
Got logic? is missing logic
“We had this discussion already. I provided multiple links”
Yes you did and yes you did. I told you you would get no rebuttal then and you won’t get one now. MRNA SARS trials on animals wound up killing all of the animals. Hence why I call them the vaccine cult. Who else could endlessly ignore that and dismiss VAERS completely out of hand?
Hows this: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w
🤸🏽♂️🤸🏽♂️🤸🤸🏿♀️🤸
Give me a “J”!
Give me an “A”!
Give me a “B”!
What’s that spell?
JAB!
Sorry, but the gymnasts was the closest emoji I could find to pom poms or cheerleaders.
While your link is in no way an endorsement for using mRNA at warp speed on a Corona Virus , thumbs up for
humor!
*Once all the pieces came together, “it was like, holy smoke, finally we’ve got a process we can scale”,*
Holy smoke. Ya. Blowing smoke up our collective asses.
Problem is, your lengthy report missed the steep drop off mRNA studies by 2017. https://www.statnews.com/2017/01/10/moderna-trouble-mrna/
No one wanted to volunteer and results were scratchy. I’ve linked this article multiple times and seeing how pro vax pro mRNA anti facts the internet is becoming it will disappear before not to long …
The vast majority of covid deaths currently is unvaccinated people. Ivermectin is poison for worms. SARS-cov-2 is not a worm. It’s not even a living organism. Viruses don’t eat, don’t have sex, don’t have mitochondria or any other organelles that all cellular organisms have. All they are is a strand of DNA inside a shell made of protein.
ALL the ferrets died. They did the animal research.
Not the specific SARS-CoV-2 spike protein simulation, but…
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w
There have been over 5.5 Billion (that’s with a B) doses of COVID-19 vaccine received by people since it was developed. If that’s not testing, I don’t know what is; but I’m sure you’ve “done your own research”.🙄
But you do have a squirt of Invermectrin with your carrot juice.
Just be sure to wear your diaper.
A real vaccine PREVENTS an illness like Polio, Measles, Small Pox, etc.; from occurring…..
The covid “vaccine” does not keep one from getting or spreading the rona…..it’s not a real “vaccine”.
Moreover, the source of much of the misinformation about vaccines comes from an unobvious source: the Russian government’s propaganda apparatus, which cultivates and exploits foreign anti-vaccine people causing palpable harm to Americans and citizens of other Western countries. medecon.org 3/29/21
They target both sides of a debate. The goal being to increase dissension.
Simple “Yes” or “No”….without your Russian paranoia deflection BS.
Does the current covid vaccine keep one from getting or spreading covid?
I’ll wait…..
How is the vaccine efficacy even in question? This has been studied and proven time and time again in all sorts of studies.
Yes, in fact the vaccines DO reduce the likelihood of you getting COVID by an huge margin. Breakthrough infections occur, as with most vaccines, and if you get one you may be infectious especially with Delta, more so than before (so wear a mask, mmmkay?). You almost certainly won’t die from the breakthrough infection though. Unvaccinated your chances of catching the virus AND getting very sick are much higher. Take note .. the ICUs are full of (a) unvaccinated people with COVID, or (b) people suffering from the side effects of the vaccine? Yup.
No vaccine is 100% effective, that’s why we have words like “efficacy” and “breakthrough infections” to talk about it.
Don’t major in the minors
And yet the vaccinated, that were vaccinated to be protected from contracting covid in the first place; are somehow still transmitting covid, to both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated.
Say what….?
Not a good selling selling point to take a jab of a sketchy vaccine, at best…..
Vaccination reduces viral loads among those who do get infected. So, yes, the unvaccinated who carry the virus are a much bigger transmission hazard.
False
The vaccinated are catching COVID at lower rates than the unvaccinated. Thus, they, as a group, are transmitting COVID much less than the unvaccinated as a group.
To really know this, we would have to be testing everybody. It would be more accurate to say the vaccinated are reporting symptoms at a lower rate.
A test that couldn’t be throttled?
We aren’t testing the vaxxed! And until we are testing the vaccinated public broadly we won’t know. It’s all guesswork.
“The vaccinated are catching COVID at lower rates than the unvaccinated.”
Then why are the most vaccinated countries having the highest spikes and what about studies showing the vaccinated with higher viral loads when reinfected?
Crickets?
First, can you show a per capita comparison of vaccination rates and COVID catching? Then are you recognizing that the numbers of those who are vaccinated are disproportionally those that are most vulnerable (for instance more than 82% of those over 65 are vaccinated and effectively 0% of those under 12 the least vulnerable are vaccinated). I’d like to see some facts backing up your assertion.
Read my post again, this time follow the details.
Yes.
Then why the need for booster shots? The first one or two shots don’t seem to keep one from getting or spreading covid, do they?
Yes, the vaccine keeps people from getting COVID, then if someone gets COVID, they are less likely to end up in the hospital, and if they end up in the hospital, they are less likely to end up dead. Roughly 95% of all deaths from COVID are among the unvaccinated.
Bingo.
Bunch of people here are chumps for the Ruskies.
That is surely the one thing true about Russia that’s been claimed by Fed/DNC chatbots In the last five years.
That would be wrong. Some vaccines do prevent infection. Some don’t. And never have.
So based upon recent vaccine results and variant spreads; you would then agree that the covid vaccine is not one of those that prevents infection, or stops the spread.
Anti- vaxxer discovers every American who got the Smallpox vaccine in the 19th century is now dead. The Onion News 9/17/21.
https://www.theonion.com/study-finds-virus-frequently-fooled-by-fake-vaccine-car-1847696696
A new study released Friday by researchers at Johns Hopkins University revealed that the novel coronavirus Covid-19 was frequently fooled by fake vaccine cards. “We found that when presented with a counterfeit vaccination card, Covid-19 was unable to distinguish it from the real thing approximately 7 out of 10 times,” said researcher Sharon Hirschinger, who noted that the study provided “strong and promising evidence” that the falsified records could provide significant protection against the novel coronavirus when presented by unvaccinated individuals gathering at restaurants, concerts, nightclubs. “It’s easily deceived. Just flash your card and the virus won’t know the difference. In terms of reducing the risk of contracting Covid-19 and experiencing its most severe symptoms, including hospitalization and even death, this study confirms that fake vaccination cards are practically the next best thing to getting vaccinated.” At press time, the FDA had granted fake vaccine cards emergency use authorization in the fight against Covid-19.
I wish I didn’t have to worry that some folks will take this as the truth…
Don’t know wether to laugh or cry about that
Not to worry, unconsciously I’m sure some people do.
They wouldn’t be the first ones to get snookered by an Onion article. The Onion had me with an article about the Bloomberg campaign accosting young black men on the streets of New York to tell them what a great president Bloomberg would be (parody of stop-and-frisk under Mayor Bloomberg). Then I considered the source.
That encapsulates the magical thinking of the antivaxxers pretty well.
Covid Vaxxer thinks because gonads of other circle-jerkers haven’t immediately fallen off that a longitudinal study affirming safety and efficacy has been completed.
It is not wholly 1 way or the other.
You are painting over the normal very detailed nuances of science with a billboard sized paint brush.
Effectively blinding yourself to fact and reality.
All vaccines have varying effectivness.
All vaccines may have breakthrough cases.
Not all vaccines completely prevent illness or transmission.
Since before covid these were facts and still are.
You grasp straws fux
Hey (self-edit). Do you think Kym will approve of you calling someone else a nimrod?
A rose by any other name
LOL. One of my great-great grandpas was named Nimrod.
Wasn’t it originally a type of aristocrat in India or Persia? Somwhere in that part of the world. Also a type of British surveillance plane I think.
figures
It is a real vaccine because it stimulates an immune response in your body against Covid. That is the way all vaccines work. If you want to argue that the vaccine isn’t effective enough for you, okay, but saying it’s not a vaccine is not accurate.
Long term 5+ years, peer reviewed by American Front Line docs.
You refuse to undesrtand or are incapable of doing so
Yeah…internet researchers…blech.
Most have no clue what research is.
Or study for that matter.
Wonder how many have ever stepped foot in a library?
How about a college or university library?
All knowledge is NOT public facing on the internet.
Most college level books are NOT printed on the internet.
Exactly. Its so sad to see so many here never had the advantage of science classes, apparently.
(Or maybe they were just out sick that day, never having been, you know vaccinated against polio, smallpox, measles, etc.)
Keep believing Facebook and Carlson if you think they know more than the Worlds health professionals. Keep buying into every whack conspiracy theory there is! It makes you feel like you are better than everyone else, after all, right?
Keep pretending people aren’t laughing at you and starting to hate you for spreading this virus.
Let us all know how that works out for ya.
Waited for this excellent answer for a while! Thank you!
starting to hate you for spreading this virus.
That’s some twisted and naive thinking. {SelfEdit} for that.
“If that’s not testing, I don’t know what is”
You don’t know what testing is. Are these people being monitored for any unusual health events? Are they paired with a demographically matched control group that receives only a placebo injection?
No. The testing was concluded around May of this year for Pfizer/bio n tech and Moderna. Pfizer reported, in a follow up, a 50% reduction in covid mortality (2 in placebo group, 1 in treatment group) and a 7% increase in all cause mortality (14 in placebo group, 15 in treatment group).
You are worried about a vaccine but willing to take a pharmaceutical animal product? Say it out loud maybe it will sink in as total absurdity
Except that the vaccine has been subjected to rigorous double-blind testing to prove that it is both safe and effective against covid-19. Ivermectin, on the other hand, is untested and not recommended by anyone other that right wing crazies on the internet. It’s the second coming of HCQ, the first bogus snake oil recommended by the right wing crazies on the internet.
Except it was unblinded.
The vaccine is NOT untested.
In the entire history of vaccine use all serious side effects have shown up within 6-8wks.
You know I love lots of things about you but I disagree here. The COVID vaccine has gone through the same layers of testing as other vaccines. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/distributing/steps-ensure-safety.html
https://speakingofresearch.com/2021/08/27/human-mrna-vaccine-trials-in-the-2010s-a-history-lesson-in-animal-research/
Deep breath, my friend🥴
like long term studies?
“The recent mRNA vaccines for COVID-19 are the first of their kind, but they weren’t created overnight.” There were animal studies. Then human studies of mRNA vaccinations for years https://speakingofresearch.com/2021/08/27/human-mrna-vaccine-trials-in-the-2010s-a-history-lesson-in-animal-research/
Then in July of 2020, Pfizer began their COVID-19 human trials. So for over a year, the vaccine has been tested–first on tens of thousands of human volunteers– then on hundreds of thousands and now likely on over a billion people.
Yes Kym they have been trying to develope a MRNA vaccine for livestock for a decade. Why do you think they NEVER succeeded in rolling one out?
Kym, the Pfizer and Moderna trials lasted less than a year. They were both ended in the spring of 21 after beginning in summer of 20
In December, vaccines began to be administered to billions of people. The results of those vaccinations are being studied.
They are being observed for sure, that is much different than them being study in a clinical setting with a demographically matched control group.
I, personally, continue to believe that double blind, placebo controlled, clinical trial data is the best way to assess a novel pharmaceutical’s safety and efficacy.
Can you find me a single previous vaccine that underwent less than a year of clinical trials before approval?
This fascinating article from the AMA would answer a lot of your questions. https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/public-health/covid-19-vaccines-dive-deep-emergency-use-authorization Skip down to this section “Why the vaccines are here so fast”
“In explaining how vaccine development—a process that normally takes several years—is being accomplished in less than 12 months, Dr. Marks noted that traditional vaccine development is a “highly de-risked activity.”
By that, Dr. Marks explained, he means that pharmaceutical companies typically try to cut the cost of research and development by spreading out the risk over time, only advancing from one stage to the next only after they know it is likely the product is going to work.
Manufacturing is often advanced the same way, with the ramping up to commercial-scale production occurring near the end of the process in a similar manner.
What companies did with their potential COVID-19 vaccines was “work at risk,” Dr. Marks said, and began producing millions of vaccine doses without knowing for sure whether their product would be approved.
“That actually saved a significant amount time,” he said, adding that eliminating the normal “dead space” between the three phases of the clinical trial also accelerated the pace of development.”
“dead space”
Well now, there’s an ironic word choice.
..”began producing millions of vaccine doses without knowing for sure whether their product would be approved..”
That’s right. In fact they had a contract for 195 billion dollars before they had any authorization. Vials sitting in chilled wharehouses before the trials were barely begun.
That would not be an incentive to fudge the little bit of testing they did do. No . They wouldn’t do that. {Sarcasm}
Truth is that’s WHY they only trialed for symptoms , and not infection. They knew these were not effective at preventing spread. So eliminating “symptoms” was the parameter they tested for. That was the only way to sugar coat the results! I’ve been pointing this out for months. It is beyond ridiculous. Made in the USA means garbage. Like having potentially BILLIONS of asymptomatic carriers is a good thing. 🤷♂️
Rah rah got no fever
Rah rah ain’t feeling down
spread immune escape variants
All over your town
Rah rah
Go boosters!!!
I understand how they produced it so fast. I still don’t consider 9 months of clinical testing sufficient for me to assess the safety of an entirely new class of phatmaceuticals.
I’ll ask again, can you show me any other vaccine in history that was approved for use (not the eua but actual approval) with less than a year of clinical data? maybe the polio vaccine that got stopped after 40 million contaminated doses?
No, I can’t. But then, can you show me any other medicine that has galvanized the world’s scientific community to work together so closely?
In 25 years, the descendants of those that survived this time, will be reading about the people who refused the vaccine with the same incredulity that students today look at those who think the world is flat.
or the way we look at people who held rallies calling AIDS a gift from god for killing gay people.
considering that when the first polio vaccines (and actually most of the vaccines we use today) were developed, scientists didn’t have access to computers, had to do all their math with paper and pencil, had to use manual *everything*, and in some cases didn’t even know the structure or makeup of DNA at the time, there’s really no comparison. The COVID vaccine was developed quickly because it was built on all the prior research on vaccines, immunology, viruses, and DNA from Jenner’s smallpox vaccination through Rosalind Franklin’s DNA xray photo to the first use of recombinant Ebola vaccine in 2013.
No they weren’t .
You are trying to make people believe the “vaccines ” for covid-19 (a virus which wasn’t even on the radar until early 2020) went thru the “same (typically rigorous) layers of testing as other vaccines!!?
That statement and your weak links are complete super sugar-coated BS. The fancy pretend reassurances from vaccine (ventriloquist) dummies tell us they are close enough. They are not even close and they made everything worse! 1year is not 20. Feels like it’s been 20 tho.
Some may come to rue the day they took up their blind allegiance to this “vaccine” cause. Instead of remaining impartial, you’ve taken to making the wildest excuses and praises for this obviously failed “vaccine” effort. It has to be exhausting defending that 24/7. (Except fridays.)
If the big brains who warned us (and were muted and sensored) early on about the vaccine flaws, and the fatal policy failures are right, the worst is yet to come. Buckleup. Might be some tricky u-turns ahead
https://breggin.com/covid-19-and-the-global-predators-resources/
Hiding in plain site
funny how timelines sped up significantly after the discovery of DNA structure, then again after computers became commonplace, and again after molecular cloning was developed. it’s almost as if scientists can build on prior knowledge!
That’s the take away message you got from that graphic ? Because 12 OR 17 OR 20 years is totally the same as 6 months?
The disconnect and high gloss gaslighting is concerning.
It has been tested and proved to lower human population (the real “disease” Bill Gates wants to end)… All the ferrets died in the animal trial.
They didn’t just “die.” The scientists killed them.
Lol 15 up votes. He did say what you thought he said folks!
Anybody who thinks that this substance is a cure for COVID, is completely unstrung…
Coronavirus, well, it’s a virus…
Intestinal Parasites, are organisms with complicated life-cycles, and, it takes a pretty toxic substance to kill them!
IVM, is like taking Chemotherapy to cure hemorrhoids! It’s the wrong treatment, it’s toxic, and, only completely deluded and very stupid people would think that it’s a good way to go…
Only time will tell. We know that people are conditioned to believe what makes them feel safe.
You aren’t safe
Your constant parroting of misinformation undermines everyone’s safety.
Thankfully you aren’t in a decision making position for the populace
Are you a minority?
Do you have any real understanding of the focus of clinical psychology over the past 100 years?
You ever peaked inside the big red book??
I take no joy in understanding what many refuse to acknowledge
There are three current ongoing studies on ivermectin and Covid-19. There are only two ways this will go.
Either ivermectin will show a very modest efficacy as a prophylactic and anti vaxxers will gasp in horror that the government is pushing it. Whereupon they will move on to the next toxic compound sold to them on conspiracy websites.
Or it will be found virtually useless and anti vaxxers will scream about a government conspiracies to lie to them in order to gain political power.
Frankly the government has handled the vaccine thing totally wrong. They should have made it unavailable or very expensive so that conspiracy theorist would be outraged about the government depriving them of safe and effective treatment. Then they would demand it and it would be sold by a million conspiracy websites. Only they wouldn’t call it a “vaccine”. They call it an ancient natural remedy that the whatchamacallit tribe of the far reaches of wherever have known for generations but that the government is suppressing it. Then a hundred thousand anti vaxxers would have serum parties to spite the government.
“Frankly the government has handled the vaccine thing totally wrong.”
Ok, now what if public death, and not public health was the goal?
I would have to say the government is moving along according to plan.
It’s the public that has got the vaccine thing totally wrong
Know the destination, then the journey makes more sense.
Foreign nations have also been accused of spreading false information. The State Department said it has identified campaigns by Russia, Iran and China to spread disinformation about the pandemic in the U.S. Could foreign agents be on here spreading misinformation to confuse and panic the public? We won’t be fooled, we are armed with the truth. Vaccines work. Answer this minority, who won the 94 world series, what is the 35th amendment, how many stars on the U.S. flag?
Do I think there are paid Trolls commenting here? Absolutely.
Kym
Yes? Yeah, sure has repeatedly (and I believe incorrectly) argued that there are paid trolls on this site.
You know quite a lot about foreign interference?
Could be shill bots everywhere.
You are suspect
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/uttar-pradesh-india-announces-state-is-covid-19-free/98350393/
The truth isn’t painful unless your grip on fantasy is without merit✌
Just as I thought, you can’t answer the questions.
That’s the problem with modern liberals , they think foreign agents are the problem. Here’s a little hint. They are all colluding against their citizens. Like George Carlin said, ” it is a club and you ain’t in it.”
Here’s a quick note.
In Slavic accent
Yesterday, I am walking to bridge
“Tiger poop dot com” is definitely a reliable source for information. The more ridiculous the website name, the better!
Money pays for censorship in this world.
Yeah, censorship’s a bitch, ain’t it. I’m glad you agree.
I could only get one of three. Damn, I must be a commie!
Good God man, think of the horses!
It appears that no one here has heard the huge news about the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh, which is the most populous state in India, with 241 million inhabitants. About 2/3 the populace of the US. After a rigorous months-long, state-wide effort using Ivermectin as both treatment and preventative, UP has declared itself covid-free, with a 98.6% recovery rate and 0.01% positivity. As of Sept. 15th there were 199 cases of covid, in a populace 2/3 the size of ours. Let that sink in. They are covid-free. Ivermectin has been taken by one in three people in the world, literally billions, for decades. Its developers won the Nobel Prize for Medicine in 2015. It has shown very exciting promise for being THE anti-viral that may cure Ebola, Warburg and the other terrifying Viral Hemorrhagic Fevers, dengue, Zika, viral meningitis, hepatitis…the list goes on. It is also showing remarkable promise as an anti-cancer drug, working both alone and in tandem with other cancer drugs, and is being used today in cancer treatment protocols all over the globe. The most heartening part of this news is that it appears to act on triple negative breast cancer, which until now has been one of the most dreadful and challenging forms of the disease, with few protocols in place for treatment. Ivermectin has been deemed an “essential drug”, and its cost is a matter of pennies for many places in the world. And it is safer than aspirin. These are my questions – why is this news and this information not being screamed from every newsstand? Why has this wonder drug been made inaccessible in the Western world, even banned in Australia, so that millions are turning to the “pony paste” because they know that it works. Why does the mainstream media continue to vilify it? It is baffling. But not really. Meanwhile, as I write this, Merck is busily revamping and renaming Ivermectin as a “new wonder drug” for covid. Probably be about $10 a tab. https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/lucknow-news/33-districts-in-uttar-pradesh-are-now-covid-free-state-govt-101631267966925.html https://www.christianitydaily.com/articles/13293/20210917/india-s-uttar-pradesh-state-now-covid-free-recovery-rate-up-98-6-because-of-ivermectin.htmlhttps://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout—part-iii-the-lesson-of-kerala/article_ccecb97e-044e-11ec-9112-2b31ae87887a.html
P.S. Even Dr. John Campbell is excited. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2ju5v4TAaQ
or more!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2ju5v4TAaQ
Or they got vaccinated. “Soaring high on vaccination, on Wednesday, UP has achieved the target of vaccinating 9 crore people since the launch of the nationwide vaccination drive in January, which is a record.”
https://www.news18.com/news/india/over-9-05-crore-covid-19-vaccine-doses-administered-in-uttar-pradesh-4211237.html
“Uttar Pradesh on the other hand had kept a weekend lockdown in place since the second wave but has lifted the same in two stages this month given the drastic drop in the cases.” https://www.news18.com/news/india/tale-of-two-states-kerala-uttar-pradesh-paint-a-contrasting-picture-of-covid-19-4127714.html
Or more likely, India being the horrible complex and unwieldy bureaucracy it is, nobody is making real world reports. ““We had no choice as the government data makes little sense,” said Kuldeep Singh Baudh, convenor of the Manch. “Our district administration would have you believe that there are no COVID-19 deaths and certainly even if there were any, they were not due to a lack of medical attention.”” https://m.thewire.in/article/health/uttar-pradesh-covid-19-yogi-adityanath-tweets
The first link says nothing of ivermectin, only vaccinations. The second link did not produce any article for me. At any rate, the claim is that they have vaccinated over 90M people in Uttar Pradesh as of yesterday, not administered ivermectin.
https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/covid-19-uttar-pradesh-becomes-first-state-to-vaccinate-over-9-crore-people-1853285-2021-09-16
Any veterinarian can tell you that ivermectin can cause seizures, particularly in border collies and related breeds of dog.
Anyone who knows about 3rd world diseases knows that Merck has been *giving ivermectin away for free* in Africa for 25 years to combat river blindness, while charging American pet owners for the veterinary forms – they’re making plenty of profit off of Fido, Fluffy, and Flicka as it is. This is actually why they won the Nobel Prize, because of the potential to eliminate river blindness and other *parasitic* diseases.
Merc did not win the Nobel Prize. It was awarded in 2015 to 2 scientists and it was for the discovery of Avermectin not Ivermectin,which is a derivative of Avermectin
Oh, you better not point out how amazing ivermectin has been, people’s heads will explode if they have to do a mental 180. I mean, Colbert was talking shit about it, so it must be bad, right?
Definitely don’t mention the much higher incidence of covid in African countries that weren’t already taking ivermectin, compared to the much lower incidence in countries that were. That won’t compute. Nor should you mention the Israeli study confirming its efficacy, that’ll really cause a short circuit. Truly though, why should anyone care if the masses are getting this wrong? As if anyone around here gave a damn about their health before the pandemic.
You realize this medicine has been widely used in India to treat covid?
According to India Today, a primary news source of that nation, the Indian national health service entered into widespread clinical trials at a time that vaccines were not available. They found Ivermectin to be not beneficial and halted the trials and do not recommend Ivermectin as a preventative or a treatment for Covid. India is vaccinating their people.
Therapeutic Advances
Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines
American Journal of Therapeutics: July/August 2021 – Volume 28 – Issue 4 – p e434-e460
doi: 10.1097/MJT.0000000000001402
AbstractBackground: Repurposed medicines may have a role against the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The antiparasitic ivermectin, with antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties, has now been tested in numerous clinical trials.
Areas of uncertainty: We assessed the efficacy of ivermectin treatment in reducing mortality, in secondary outcomes, and in chemoprophylaxis, among people with, or at high risk of, COVID-19 infection.
Data sources: We searched bibliographic databases up to April 25, 2021. Two review authors sifted for studies, extracted data, and assessed risk of bias. Meta-analyses were conducted and certainty of the evidence was assessed using the GRADE approach and additionally in trial sequential analyses for mortality. Twenty-four randomized controlled trials involving 3406 participants met review inclusion.
Therapeutic Advances: Meta-analysis of 15 trials found that ivermectin reduced risk of death compared with no ivermectin (average risk ratio 0.38, 95% confidence interval 0.19–0.73; n = 2438; I2 = 49%; moderate-certainty evidence). This result was confirmed in a trial sequential analysis using the same DerSimonian–Laird method that underpinned the unadjusted analysis. This was also robust against a trial sequential analysis using the Biggerstaff–Tweedie method. Low-certainty evidence found that ivermectin prophylaxis reduced COVID-19 infection by an average 86% (95% confidence interval 79%–91%). Secondary outcomes provided less certain evidence. Low-certainty evidence suggested that there may be no benefit with ivermectin for “need for mechanical ventilation,” whereas effect estimates for “improvement” and “deterioration” clearly favored ivermectin use. Severe adverse events were rare among treatment trials and evidence of no difference was assessed as low certainty. Evidence on other secondary outcomes was very low certainty.
Conclusions: Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.
INTRODUCTION
https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/Fulltext/2021/08000/Ivermectin_for_Prevention_and_Treatment_of.7.aspx
“The study was done by researchers affiliated with a group that is campaigning for ivermectin to be approved for COVID-19 use, and they did not declare that affiliation in their study. Experts said ivermectin trials on which the review is based were not high quality…
Pooling data from a large number of small, low-quality clinical trials does not magically create one large, high-quality clinical trial,” wrote Gorski, who is also managing editor of Science-Based Medicine, a website that evaluates medical claims…
Gorski also pointed out that the researchers, despite claiming to have no conflicts of interest, are affiliated with BIRD (British Ivermectin Recommendation Development) Group…
BIRD reacted by calling on the journal to take down the meta-analysis or issue a warning about its “incorrect information.” They came, they saw and they retracted .
https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/jun/30/what-know-about-pro-ivermectin-groups-study-toutin/
For all those that don’t grasp the main point of Guest’s above.
The researchers had a CONFLICT OF INTEREST & they HID that fact.
All scientists know that means that the chance of a BIASED outcome is VERY HIGH
Conflict of interest?
How about Regulatory Capture?
https://economicsone.com/2011/05/30/regulatory-capture-and-reckless-endangerment/
Oh and vaccine studies done by big pharma scientists are totally reliable
Thank you. We need more people to help bring to light this flood of misinformation.
The Union health and family welfare ministry of India on Monday revised the Covid-19 treatment guidelines and removed the use of ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and the antiviral drug favipiravir from its list of advised treatment. Hindustan Times 6/7/21
Please see my comment above, regarding Uttar Pradesh declaring itself to be covid-free, thanks to Ivermectin.
33 districts out of 75 in Uttar Pradesh. There are no current known active cases in those 33 districts.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/lucknow-news/33-districts-in-uttar-pradesh-are-now-covid-free-state-govt-101631267966925.html
The Uttar Pradesh minister was actually described as living in a parallel word where no one was dying of covid-19 while lots of people were dying. It is not a reliable reporting agency. So they are perfectly right- they “know” of no cases.
Look again. https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout/article_e3db8f46-f942-11eb-9eea-77d5e2519364.html
The Desert Review, “Imperial Valley News that matters to you”. Yeah, great source for all of your news of the subcontinent! I guess they scooped everyone!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, it’s rough, I admit you do have to search through the icky wads of silent nothingness by the mainstream media to find out how many people are doing okay, it’s such terrible news. How horrible, how dreadful to discover that something might be saving lives, other than the vaccine. But please, go ahead and kill the messenger, that is the fall-back position, after all. I notice you missed attacking Christianity Today. Oops. Don’t worry, surely someone else will do that.
No, I tried to check that link, but it got me nowhere. The point is that the source linked , Desert News in the far right of rural CA is claiming they have news that the major Indian news outlets do not. How is that, as I can guarantee they didn’t send one of their staff to India to verify this information that is actually refuted by the reputable Indian news sources. But go ahead and believe any shit for nothing source that echos your ignorant beliefs. Not that I care if you eat horse dewormer.
The Mormons definitely already have people in India
And with good results used prophylactically.
Widely stopped for lack of efficacy and too common dangerous side effects
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/uttar-pradesh-india-announces-state-is-covid-19-free/98350393/
They stopped it too.
The dangers outweighed the benefits
where o where do you divine that little nugget?
Ivermectin has been safely used for years on billions and billions of people. Quit spewing shit mindlessly please.
“I think someone would be absolutely crazy for taking an untested product with dangerous side effects to treat COVID”
Yeah, us too. That’s why we don’t get vaxxed!
Ivermectin is one of the safest drugs in the WORLD, does NOT have dangerous side effects when used correctly, is very difficult to overdose on even when used incorrectly, and is considered one of your beloved WHO’s most essential medicines. It’s inventors were awarded the Nobel Prize and it has a 25 year track record, UNLIKE your precious vaccines whose efficacy is waning daily, as predicted.
“the vaccine is available and has literally been used effectively by billions of people to prevent COVID per a number of studies.”
More and more of those billions of vaccinated are getting Covid, as predicted, as the virus mutates. 4 Billion people HAVE used Ivermectin safely; more doses of Ivermectin have been administered than this “vaccine”
” vs a large amount of horse de-wormer which has only a few studies supporting its use”
Pretending Ivermectin is just horse dewormer is propaganda and why you are not credible. Large amounts of Ivermectin are not necessary. There is a LOT of anecdotal evidence that Ivermectin works when takin early and it has been around, being used safely for 40 years. The EVIDENCE you ignore is the waning efficacy of the shots which have not been around for 40 months, much less 40 years! Have you gotten a D Dimer test lately?
Thank you for this. The propaganda against Ivermectin is truly awe-inspiring….!
Untested????? That is a lie.
https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/lucknow/uttar-pradesh-government-says-ivermectin-helped-to-keep-deaths-low-7311786/
Well, you are correct that more people than I was aware of are taking Ivermectin. “The Indian Council of Medical Research had advised the use of the drug since as early as April [2020], despite criticism from some experts that the treatment was unproven in its effectiveness and could lead to “preventable morbidity and mortality”. By February 2021, the government had distributed more than 100 million hydroxychloroquine pills.”
However, “While India’s COVID-19 cases have declined from their peak in early May [2021], there is no evidence a “regime” of the drugs hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin are responsible for the fall. The same period also reflects a time when strict regional health controls were in place in many parts of the country and tens of millions of vaccine doses were rolled out to combat a deadly second wave of the virus.” https://www.aap.com.au/no-proof-ivermectin-and-hydroxy-regime-led-to-covid-decline-in-india/
Nothing new under the sun. Kym Kemp runs to the first link that supports her baseless opinion about IVM and considers the debate closed. This is how libs argue. EXAMPLE: The LIE put out by Rolling Stone that claimed Oklahoma hospitals were turning down gunshot victims due to Ivermectin OD’s got propagated by another lazy “journalist” at The HIll, then again by another lazy journalist at Newsweek, and MSNBC, and so on.
Your claim of “dangerous side effects” from Ivermectin is proof that you know nothing about IVM and aren’t interested. Yet you incessantly promote a drug whose long-term effects are unknowable and whose efficacy is diminishing, therefore increasing the risk vs benefit.
IVM is one of the safest drugs in the world and appears to be promising! The NIH is interested:
Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines (nih.gov)
Ivermectin has been shown to inhibit the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in cell cultures.13
Conclusions:Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.
My doc prescribed Ivermectin to me as a course of treatment should I get Covid. And here in Siskiyou, it’s terribly easy to do. Cases are off the hook so happy to know my waning immunity from the J&J I took in March has some back up in the wings…
People need to be more invested in the information they spread, imnsho. Headlines and MSM only serve our masters. Left, right, we’re all being lied to. Who benefits?
Best of luck. From everything I’ve read, MUCH better results are achieved from taking it in advance of getting covid, especially with the Delta variant, and especially if you are in a high risk group..
I would love to begin the protocol for prophylaxis but Ivermectin has been so demonized I don’t think I could get my provider onboard a second time…imagine; preventing doctors from treating patients with the tools at hand~something that’s done constantly with other conditions!
Yes, studies show, Covid19 was prevented in billions of people by a vaccine…
That may be a bit of an oversimplification, and at the same time, quite a stretch.
That’s what a number of studies show… 1… Mine.
Lie—-
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/
https://ivmstatus.com/
You are misleading your community Kym.
At some point, you wont be able to walk down the street without meeting scorn from community members who could have used ivermectin, a cheap, effective treatment for Wuhan flu.
Who are you in cahoots with, and what is the payoff?
covid19criticalcare.com/
If ivermectin is ever shown to be effective, I’ll be happy to say so. But there are not enough studies showing this. AND if you think I’m in “cahoots” and “getting a payoff”…get the fuck off my site. You shouldn’t be supporting a criminal by being here.
If you accuse me without evidence again of a criminal and unethical act. I will ban your ass.
Every day people are losing their minds over people making a personal choice. If we don’t pay attention we’ll be bringing in the third world to our doorstep. Those people are used to death and dying everyday.
It’s a rigged game, always was, always will.
Don’t need a hot mic to hear them break character.
Lot of useless back and forth, what a waste of time
Ivmmeta.com
I’m curious to see what you think. It seems that there is some value to use early in the disease cycle.
Dr. Peter McCullough and Dr. Zelenko both have some variety of early treatment protocols that seem like they’ve worked well. Weird that they don’t get any attention
I don’t think she has much to worry about, as they will either be dead, or won’t be able to breath enough to speak.
FDA rejects Pfizer Biden Booster shots 2 yes 16 no…. I hope you are right about this Kym! God Bless everyone..
PS: looks like they will approve boosters for over 65 year olds.
Ivermectin has been ingested by millions of humans over decades.
The effects are well documented.
The vaccine has been used in humans less than a year.
I’m sorry if you cannot understand why people are hesitant to take an experimental drug, and resistant to mandates completely against individual freedom.
Myself and millions in the US had covid. We are fine. A regiment of HUMAN ivermectin, vitamin D, high dose liposomal C, zinc water and rest reduced my “disease” to a couple days of fever and fatigue.
We have a vaccine for the vulnerable and afraid. It is time to move on with life.
Ivermectin is an anti-parasitic.
NOT an anti-viral.
There is absolutely NO documentation, particularly over decades, to suggest ivermectin is indicated for use against viruses….NONE.
You have absolutely NO idea if ivermectin had any effect on your illness.
Heard of placebo effect?
Or anecdotal info?
There’s this cool thing called the scientific process. It works really well.
Is why you never had smallpox or polio…and maybe measles or diptheria etc
Is also why you can drive and read this text on your screen
The covid vaxs are NOT experimental.
Largest vaccine study in history with 100s of millions of people before it was APPROVED.
Vaccines are for almost everyone. Paticularly to protect the vulnerable.
Please do your part to help protect the vulnerable.
you didn’t look very hard – it has been used as an anti-viral…there’s even descriptions of it’s biological actions (prevents Covid spike entering ACE 2 receptor cells)
but I’m stoned now and don’t feel like doing your work for you…and you haven’t really looked
Seems you didn’t do the work.
Nor has the Clinical research side of the medical community completed anything substantial.
The study you are working off of, the only study, was not a clincal study of Ivermectin use in human bodies.
Is a cell culture study in petri dishes.
The conclusion is very clear that MORE study MAY be promising.
It does not say to go about prescribing Ivermectin.
Also, the methodology of the study is under scrutiny because of irregularities.
There are NO completed Clinical Studies or Trials in humans for anti-viral activity of Ivermectin.
Touting an untested experimental use of any drug as efficacious sans reproducible evidence is reckless at minimum.
Everyone touting this is massively jumping to conclusions.
Petri dish success does not directly translate to complex biological systems.
There is more work to do.
The vaccine has gone through all the necessary steps to reach the touted conclusion.
That conclusion is readily reproducible in humans.
Don’t want to be a guinea pig?
Don’t take ivermectin for anything but the indicated parasites.
For a non experimental response to the viral spread the vaccine is the best option now.
You believe there has only been one, non clinical, study on ivermectin in humans?
“The vaccine has gone through all the necessary steps to reach the touted conclusion.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HA.
Old “observational studies,” without prescreening for preexisting antibodies…
Are we down to about 40% (touted) efficacy now?
Please, please watch Dr. John Campbell’s interview with Dr. Tess Lawrie on You Tube. He is in awe of her abilities as a researcher. He is also enough of a true scientist to admit when he is wrong. And he is thrilled at the possibilities of Ivermectin’s potential uses. For those who keep insisting that an anti-parasitic cannot be useful here, let me remind you that a little blue pill called Viagra was designed as a heart drug before its other applications were discovered. Think about that. If an hour is too long for you, Dr. Campbell has a short half-hour precis where he sums up the information, but the first is well worth watching.
Now, if you are truly stuck on your position, there’s really no point, so you shouldn’t waste your time, go back to confirmation dialogue. I simply cannot understand why people would rather do battle against the concept of a remedy that could save so many, rather than be open to maybe, just maybe, being wrong. The ego is a strange and terrible thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYF8bnmdQfY
Ignorance is a toxic belief
Hello Spam: It is Zinc that is responsible for blocking this very dangerous spike protein from entering the ACE 2 receptor of said cell. Somehow IVM helps Zinc getting into the cell
Ever heard of unethical human experimentation?
“We have a vaccine for the vulnerable and afraid”…and we have horse dewormer for the scared and stupid.
There, I fixed it for you.
“Taking a tiny dose of prevention
which has proven effective vs a large amount of horse dewormer…”
I do know what you mean, Kym, and I totally agree that no one should be taking horse dewormer (that’s for sure), not even a tiny dose.
I know it’s taking what you said a little out of context, but just so there is no confusion on your meaning, to others, it could be misconstrued, as taking a little vs allot of Ivermectin.
Again, I know that is not what you meant, and I totally agree.
You do start your statement with an “I do think someone would be absolutely crazy for taking an untested product…”
Remdesivir doesn’t seem to be doing any good, either.
It does seem to be doing a lot of damage, though.
Damage that is being attributed to the condition it is supposed to be treating, Covid19.
Sometimes taking, or giving, a tested product, as in the case of Remdesivir, is a very bad idea, as well.
As far as vaccination is concerned, Moderna seems to be shaking out to be the most effective choice of vaccines against severe outcomes.
Maybe we should not only discriminate against the people that haven’t made the vaccine choice, and discriminate against the people that have not made the right vaccine choice as well?
Moderna recipients to the front of the line!
The Funkier Pfizerphiles, take a number!
The J&J joked and jested, get back!
Unvaccinated? Just get the Moderna, and you will suddenly be superior to those vaxxed with the other inferior brands.
What were they thinking?
Those that were last, will be the first…
Good things come to those that wait…
I agree with medical authorities that ivermectin should not be taken for Covid, and veterinary medications should not be taken by people.
That said, those of us who believe in rational health care policies based on science must acknowledge that ivermectin is a human medicine that has a good safety profile when used as directed in the package insert.
Ivermectin won the Nobel prize in 2015 for use in humans. covid-19 and it’s accompanying vaccine are less than a year old and we are the test but as long as we’re paying attention to this and not your president bombing innocent children with drones all is well huh?
I’m well aware of ivermectin’s fine qualities. The polio vaccine is also a fine medicine. But it doesn’t cure COVID. At this point, there isn’t a body of evidence supporting ivermectin as a cure for COVID or as a prophylactic. There may be some day. But I have not seen that evidence.
Uh, there’s no evidence that the vaccine cures covid either as a matter of fact there’s a lot of evidence that it does not. Still, you people are trying to force it into other people’s bodies, why? And why not for immigrants or the homeless? And now trying to have people blackballed from society for not sharing your feelings, history shows this to be a dangerous tactic. If you try to take everything from a person for not wanting the vaccine you should hope they’re sick or dying because you’re leaving them very few options for survival And cornered animals can be dangerous.
Vaccines don’t cure disease. They help prevent it.
And I am not trying to force anyone to get the vaccine…I’m trying to engage in a conversation down here in the comment section that allows for the exchange of ideas.
The 2015 Nobel was awarded for the discovery of Avermectin not Ivermectin the difference between ivermectin and avermectin is that ivermectin is a broad-spectrum antiparasitic medication while avermectin is (medicine) any of a class of macrocyclic lactones, produced by streptomyces bacteria, that are used medically to kill parasites wikidiff.com
Half of the 2015 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine was awarded to William C. Campbell and Satoshi Ōmura for discovering avermectin,[3]“the derivatives of which have radically lowered the incidence of river blindness and lymphatic filariasis, as well as showing efficacy against an expanding number of other parasitic diseases.”
What’s the news: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has issued a health advisory warning physicians and the public about the rise in prescriptions for the anti-parasitic drug ivermectin for use in the treatment or prevention of COVID-19. The CDC also cautioned about the risk of severe illness caused by ivermectin, which was seen in increased calls to poison centers ama-assn.org 9/2/21
Pure propaganda.
See the FLCCC for more.
Yeah, cuz Biden was the first Commander in Chief under which military and CIA commanders killed innocent civilians with drones. Talk about willful ignorance!
Build Back Killer
How did you read this article and come up with THIS conclusion? We are so doomed.
There is a misconception here, There is 2 versions of Ivermectin. One is for animals the other is for human, no one should be taking the version for animals. Please go to a doctor and get the correct prescription for the correct ivermectin that is made for human consumption.
Yes, it’s the obvious thing to do, but its distribution is being thwarted. Only a handful of doctors in California are prescribing it, presumably because they are either going along with the idea that it is ineffective, or because they are affiliated with a clinic or hospital that is not allowing them to prescribe it. The Frontline Doctors can prescribe it online, and they are swamped with orders.
It’s easy to get a prescpription through FLCCC……but good luck finding a pharmacy to fill it ………according to the pharmacist I spoke to the wholesale suppliers are not selling to them (he said a similar thing happened with HCQ before)
At least they won’t have worms when they’re dying of COVID!
Ivermectin is not used “for parasites” or “worms” in covid patients. The reason it worked so well to stop the India outbreak is that it is a ZINC ionophore — it allows Zinc to travel through the cell wall.
Now, because Ivermectin makes the cell wall permeable, you don’t want to take it around VAXXINATED individuals, because their prions can pass through your blood brain barrier and make you a zombie too! 🙂
First there are already human designed products that combine zinc and zinc ionospheres. Then there’s the fact that zinc deficiencies are not often found in America anyway. Combined with the fact that too much zinc is toxic. Combine that with the miscellaneous mystery ingredients in paste wormer, anti vaxxer witchcraft will certainly kill some of them. They seem to believe willing to believe anything believe anything as long as it’s from a YouTube guru.
https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(11)62239-8/fulltext
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/common-cold/expert-answers/zinc-for-colds/faq-20057769
Thank you. “let the truth shine on”
You don’t have even the foggiest clue about anything related to biology.
good thing my iq isn’t 145 either.
You Do???????
Amazing how much brain washing has kept people from getting past the noise…
Look up madazapan.
Ray Kurzweil says that by 2030 he thinks that we should have a brain to AI interface.
Makes ya wonder how they plan on doing that.
Jab #1 pineal
Jab#2 solar plexus
Jab #3 heart chakra
Jab $$4 body break down (payoff 4 pharma)
Jab 5 death.
Til death do us part. 😍
https://www.bitchute.com/video/xBirICBXXzAw/
Polished turds are still turds Alb
Nutburger!
“FDA SOUNDLY REJECTS” Booster Plan… Sorry, Mark of the Beast postponed.
All of you vaxxed that shamed us organic readers owe us skeptics and apology… You want us to go down with the ship too, but we have free will.
God Bless the sick, the weary, and the hungry!
It didn’t work in India. The Indian Health Service ran trials , declared Ivermectin to not work in preventing or treating Covid. See indiatimes.in and indiatoday.in
that wouldn’t be false if it was true
The India Times should be congratulating the state of Uttar Pradesh for its victory over covid by means of vaccination coupled with a rigorous state-wide program employing Ivermectin. Unfortunately, there has been some fake news circulating about this.https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout/article_e3db8f46-f942-11eb-9eea-77d5e2519364.html
Uttar Pradesh went on lockdown as cases spiked. That might have something to do with the rapid decline. Not as sensational to those lifting skirts looking for conspiracy but it certainly does drop the infection rates. The started relaxing it at the end of July and still had some restrictions at the end of August.
https://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-uttar-pradesh-unlock-cinema-halls-gyms-to-reopen-with-50-capacity-check-other-guidelines-here-yogi-adityanath-2898926
Garbage
OMFG. This is hilarious.
Can you please provide some documentation for this claim?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFph7-6t34M&t=15169s
yep its a zinc Ionophor like Hydroxychloroquine and Quercetin.
You need to take both. The ionophor is the gun the zinc is the bullet.
Wilber, where’s my worm medicine?
There is so much pandering and big pharma shilling and false information in this article
especially that very last paragraph
my freaking head is spinning
Just so we are clear…Big pharma produces ivermectin.
Let’s also be clear that “Big Pharma” has a clear profit motive to push newer vastly more expensive drugs then ones that have had their patents expire.
That’s the only intelligent remark from an anti-laxer I’ve read.😳
Must have been an accident.🥺
Vaccinations are free to the public and cost around $35.
Treating COVID-19 costs between $51K and $70K if you survive.
Regenoran Stock is soaring because of idiots sucking down bleach and livestock dewormer. Of course you’re all sucking down propaganda from an Australian tax dodger who owns your favorite “news” network along with majority interest in…
Wait for it…
Regenoran, Humana, Blue Cross & WellPoint to name a few.
Have another carrot sucker.
Free to the public, crack me up. So Cowboy ,how much is actually paid for a vaccine and has been given to big pharm corps to come up with a vaccine. Let me guess the government Paid for it all, and where does the government get its money? Think I paid well into the six figures in taxes last year , not sure the vaccine is penciling out to well for my hard working tax paying arse, that northbound fast lane by C/R says it all, gas tax at its best. Free or 35 bucks, crack me up.
Free?
Free of charge.
WHo the do you suppose is paying for big bros ‘free sh*t’?
USA TAXPAYERS
that would be me
for a gene altering
unproven doesnt
work jab
You clearly have no concept of biology or any idea what is required to alter genetic codes.
This isn’t just a little wrong, it’s very drastic how incorrect the gene alteration claim is.
Many people have $500k-$1mil bills after extended ICU stays
We don’t want to bring up a lifetime of idiots sucking down booze, cigarette suckers,..
Follow the money…
Indeed follow the money- social media has made a lot of money for a lot of people. Why people who usually comment about the lies told by “Big Pharma” to make money never apply that idea to conspiracy websites, that unlike pharmacy companies, have no investment in research, manufacturing or anything but a web address. For them it’s all gravy.
“Over the last decade, Dr. Mercola has built a vast operation to push natural health cures, disseminate anti-vaccination content and profit from all of it, said researchers who have studied his network. In 2017, he filed an affidavit claiming his net worth was “in excess of $100 million.”
As his popularity grew, Dr. Mercola began a cycle. It starts with making unproven and sometimes far-fetched health claims, such as that spring mattresses amplify harmful radiation, and then selling products online — from vitamin supplements to organic yogurt — that he promotes as alternative treatments.”
7https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/24/technology/joseph-mercola-coronavirus-misinformation-online.html
Or his tanning beds that he claimed could cure or reduce the chances of getting cancer. He had to pay out millions in refunds for that one.
While you are on the subject.
“Five Things to Know About the Flexner Report
1. Abraham Flexner was not a doctor, but a school teacher and educational theorist from Louisville, Kentucky. In 1910 he published the Medical Education in the United States and Canada, known as the Flexner Report, which elevated the importance of German educational methods in the teaching of medicine.
2. There is a connection between the robber barons and medicine. John Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie, and others saw this as a progression of peddling pharmaceuticals, which began as byproducts of oil refinement.
3. There were no real effective governmental agencies in place monitoring the state of affairs within the medical community, so what Flexner did at the behest of the robber barons, he did so in favor of profits rather than the long-term care of patients. He effectively created a culture that enabled the monetization of medicine.
4. Drugs are created to treat symptoms and only rarely treat the actual cause. Plus, drugs create their own symptoms, sometimes requiring additional drugs to offset their ill effects. We live in a quick-fix culture where we crave immediate gratification.
5. For the most part, medicine has become tone deaf to the oath it claims to uphold — the Hippocratic oath. We believe Flexner paved the way for this overthrow of whole-body health by making scientific research and training alone the only desirable and credible approach to human whttps://www.cancertutor.com/flexner-report/ellness.”
You were saying something about Mercola?
Following the implementation of the Flexner Report the number of black medical school students at Harvard went from 43- to 3.
The report gave the ‘keys to the kingdom” to Big Pharma and it was also a very racist result.
At that time (1910) a black physician was not allowed to treat white patients. Only white doctors were allowed to treat all patients.
Also, a NEW Flexner Report would acknowledge the medical benefits of cannabis because we now have lab testing to prove efficacies.
I did follow the money. In the place where the money ends up, they’re all vaccinated
Of course they are; they’re rich, not stupid!
Oh my how the propagandist can deflect. You are a tool for big pharma Kym. Welcome to the wrong side of history. Your legacy will endure.
It’s all the paste horse wormer…
Funny; I have tablets I picked up from my local pharmacy of Ivermectin.!!!
I can sure bet he wouldn’t fill the script now with all the weight of pHarmaPropaganda bearing down on the Ivermectin theraputic possibilities….killing and maiming yet more.
Why can’t we even try? Why are they keeping life-saving medicine from us? And don’t get me going on vaccinations preventing Covid–look around! Breakthru cases everywhere and Israel is telling us the vaxxed carry just as much of a viral load as the unvaxxed.
ps myself vaxxed in March with J&J–efficacy wearing out as I type. How many experimental jabs will you all take until you start questioning the party line?
Why did you get J&J when it was know to be the inferior vaccine from the beginning?
Ivermectin is about as worthless as the Trump warp speed miracle flu shot , what a joke that administration was but he did get 50 percent of Americans to take his drugs. Funny how people need drugs to make it through life.
tRump never produced a flu shot.
“This is another area where the two viruses differ. COVID-19 survivors report many more long-term effects of the infection than influenza survivors. Lingering symptoms like weakness, shortness of breath, trouble focusing and, in some cases, kidney and heart problems are much more common after COVID-19 than after influenza.
“Mild” COVID-19 illness has been described as “flu-like.” It’s important to remember that the flu is a pretty debilitating disease so “mild” COVID-19 is still a pretty significant disease.”
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2020/no-covid-19-is-not-the-flu
Virus or disease. Pick one.
No.😝
Infectious diseases are disorders caused by organisms — such as bacteria, viruses, fungi or parasites. Many organisms live in and on our bodies. They’re normally harmless or even helpful. But under certain conditions, some organisms may cause disease. Some infectious diseases can be passed from person to person.Apr 7, 2021
Infectious diseases – Symptoms and causes – Mayo Clinic
5 weeks out from a breakthrough infection, minus kidney and heart problems, this has been absolutely the case in our household. My wife has had a very elevated heart rate since covid as well. 5 weeks out, I had to request an additional week off from work to catch up on everything I’ve been unable to do because I can’t focus and lose energy quickly. It’s pretty wild having been very fit, never a smoker, with large lung capacity to being winded after talking on the phone and using an inhaler prescribed to COPD patients 2x/day.
Whatever it is, wherever it came from, this coronavirus is nothing like any flu I’ve experienced.
Take care~
😢
He just insinuated that Covid was no worse than the Flu!!! He also called it the “Wuhan Flu” as well!!!!
50% of anti vaxxers, not of Americans.
In your WILDEST FANTASIES!!!
Just follow the antivaxer herd and get your supply of horse wormer.
And don’t show up at the hospital when you’ve damaged yourself with the stuff.
Call the vet.
Luckily for them even ivermectin paste wormer is unlikely to do more than make them feel bad. Unlike the some of the other antivirals they have latched onto.
Actually, in people who have a weak blood brain barrier, severe sensitivities to insecticides or TBI it could induce some brain damage.
If they are taking horse dewormer on the word of internet charlatans then I would posit they already have brain damage!
This is your brain🥚, this is your brain on horse dewormer 🍳. Just say no!
Pharma is soooooo mad, so are democrats. If y’all think it’s bad practice and hate the right siders taking it then why are we making a discussion about it. Don’t you want everyone taking it to vanish off the earth anyway
“Don’t you want everyone taking it to vanish off the earth anyway”
We are getting vaccinated, wearing masks, practicing physical distancing etc. not only to protect ourselves but to also protect others. Those others include EVERYONE. It is a non-discriminatory protection that these actions provide. The discussion here is clearly to help people best protect themselves because ultimately, regardless of your political opinions or ability to exercise critical thinking skills, you are a fellow life on this earth and we don’t want to see you suffer unnecessarily.
Wait, you can’t speak for all of us! It’s a race to the finish, if climate change or any other apocalypse doesn’t get us first.⏱
No, we want them to live, but stop overloading our hospitals and healthcare workers.
NO< I don’t “want them to disappear off the Earth, just to wise before they they infect others who have little or NO Resistance!!!! I just want them to WISE UP & STFU!!!!
Yes, but it is sooooo much fun! I honestly don’t care if you bath in sheep dip and take a horse dewormer enema; knock yourself out. I’ll still wake up in the morning in my same wonderful life until the day I die, which might be tomorrow for all I know. All I can say is I lived the best life I could and had fun along the way. Now go suck on some horse dewormer and let me get back in line for my booster before the withdrawals get too bad.
“The COVID-19 vaccine is more effective and safer than any vaccine in history.”
Is that scientific fact? I think this guy is blowing smoke.
Safer than any in history, even though we have ZERO long term data about the covid vaccines. Hahah
These people don’t use any level of logic or reasoning they just repeat the script they’ve been giving.
Mr Smith effect?
In the entire history of vaccines all serious side effects have shown up within 6-8wks.
PERIOD
Fake news.. there have been no studies to research the fact that there are myriad diseases and problems now compared to before mass vaccination.. perhaps the vaccines are indeed causing problems that no one has cared to look into because we are obsessed with a quick fix..
Wrong.
There has been NO correlation, much less any causation shown to support your parroted lie.
Facts are reproducible not delusion.
Go ahead…show us some real & credible source that has shown reproducible results.
I dare you…
I’ve been asking for studies demonstrating that the current vaccine regimen produces the best health outcomes. No one has posted any.
I’ve posted two studies that indicate that the current vaccine regimen does not produce the best outcomes. What should we make of that situation? How does that mesh with your insistence that vaccines do not cause harm?
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamadermatology/article-abstract/530581
Serious side effects showing up years after small pox vaccination at the vaccination site.
If you understood how it actually works and that any traces of the vaccine itself are out of your system within a couple of weeks then you wouldn’t have to ask these questions. Let me turn this back on you, Q: do the research.
Mos def a script…the language never varies.
Yep, he should have quit while he was ahead. Those last claims are untenable, and obviously questionable at best. They call into question the validity of everything else that he says. He now has a credibility problem. But I already knew that.
He has repeatedly stated with various Covid19 “updates” that “it’s the unvaccinated that are having a problem with Covid19”.
Like, surprise!
Umm… That wouldn’t be an update…
That would be old news…
What he was concealing during those “updates”,(7/23), was that the VACCINATED were increasingly becoming infected and hospitalized.
That would have been the appropriate update at that time.
But he stayed mum on that, and kept repeating the obvious old news.
Total Buffoonery.
“Safer than any (covid vaccine) on history”
Have to read between the lines 😉
Just look up what joe Rogan did and follow his 2 day recovery plan. Oh wait, we aren’t allowed to believe in real treatments only the ones being pushed by money’s
There is no evidence that the drugs he took had any effect on his symptoms or duration of illness.
He has said himself many times that he is f’ing idiot.
Rich, and not in the hospital from his sources and connections.
no wonder the elite think so little of cleaning up the thentire half dead population.
Mass fluoridation. ..lower iq, pound them with fiction til they can’t think straight.
I’ll take his word for it.
Yeah, Joe Rogan, expert virologist, epidemiologist and doctor. Graduated from the same medical universities as Niki Minaj.
It works, I did it. Cured in 4 days. Don’t believe the bs propaganda pushing Vax for profit at our expense
My daughter, son-in-law, 4-year old grandson, and 1-year old granddaughter had Covid-19 three weeks ago, didn’t take Ivermectin, and were all feeling 100% in 4 days. My son had it earlier this year, no Ivermectin, was ready to go back to work within 5 days. From my study of ivermectin, which includes you and a control group of five, I have concluded that Ivermectin has no effect on outcomes or length of symptoms for Covid-19 infections.
The lesson here: your single anecdotal data point is absolutely worthless.
Thank you for sharing more information supporting that most people do not need to worry about infection with this virus
Eqimax is horse dewormer. Ivermectin is not necessarily horse dewormer. It has been used for decades around the globe to treat parasitic infection in humans.
I do not believe it helps treat or prevent covid-19 but we should be honest in these discussions.
Read the article.
It’s right there.
read the title, its not there. It should say;
“Agricultural Supply Stores in Mendocino and Humboldt Counties Report Increased Sales and Shortages of Equimax, a Horse De-Wormer, That Some Claim Can Be Used to Treat COVID”
Read the first paragraph
COVID is a Virus, not a damned Worm!!!!
Yes its used to treat river blindness. Most common in remote African villages. So if you take it,your good to go in Africa.
It’s used for scabies too. Both are parasitical diseases, not viral.
The problem with ivermectin for virus control is that the level of medication needed to kill virus in vitro is toxic to cells. So at best it might have some prophylactic value to prevent infection (maybe, could be, ) but it certainly is not a treatment.
Yep that’s why people don’t trust anybody. Ivermectin probably doesn’t help fight covid but it’s not just used as a “horse dewormer” and saying it is stupid.
But the over-the-counter version we have in this country is a horse dewormer.
There are no over the counter version of Ivermectin, for humans in the US. But there are prescription preparations of Ivermectin for humans. That is why it is not accurate to call Ivermectin horse dewormer instead of equimax.
Are you confused or stating what has already been covered?
I never claimed that there was an over-the-counter version for humans in the US. The whole reason people are going for horse dewormer is that it’s legal for anyone to purchase at a farm supply store, albeit unsafe for humans.
Ivermectin is the active ingredient, so it is actually partly accurate. Otherwise, it is just hyperbole to conflate the two. This is an internet comment section, so hyperbole is definitely not the worst thing you will find here.
We know the difference between ivermectin tablets intended for humans and dewormer containing ivermectin that is intended for livestock, but apparently many do not or they wouldn’t be taking it as a prophylactic or cure for Covid-19. THAT is “stupid”!
They’re taking it because they can’t get a physician to prescribe the human form.
Glad I got mine from my provider months ago…
Morons are making it hard for me to de-worm my cat. Now I have to pay more and get funny looks from the clerk? You won’t believe doctor’s but you’ll believe Joe Rogan? Idiocracy was a documentary, not a comedy.
Joe Rogan left California.
I totally understand why hollowwood and media has to keep the population living a lie.
Bread and Circus for the masses.
His show is NOTHING BUT Bread and Circus. He’s the main clown.
but its got electrolytes.
The Zimecterin (gold) pictured in the middle of the article in the black box contains praziquantel (whatever drug that is). AVOID this product and any other that contain ANY other drugs other than Ivermectin.
The apple flavored one pictured at the top of the article, made by Durvet, has no other drugs that I’m aware of. Each notch on the plunger contains appx 4.55 mg of Ivermectin= appx 113 mg per container. I highly advise against eating it. Get a prescription (if u can) for human kind. Studies show taking Ivermectin AFTER your infected signifigantly reduce it’s effectiveness. It must be taken EARLY or as a prophylaxis.
I-MASK+ Protocol – FLCCC | Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (covid19criticalcare.com)
It is dispicable that people have been reduced to eating horse paste as many pharmacies refuse to fill prescriptions off label. May they burn in hell.
Yes, please keep posting peer-reviewed studies posted by FLCCC, especially if they originated in the Dominican Republic, or the Democratic Republic of Congo, as I’m told they have the best medical researchers in the world. And go to their website for the very long list of ‘Murican providers who will consult with you online and provide you a prescription for Ivermectin for a small consultation fee. And please do not eat horse paste. Unless you really like apples! I hear it’s actually better than grandma’s apple pie. Yummy! 🐑😂🤣😂🤣
They don’t need a prescription in the Congo or DR. And both of those desperately poor countries are annihilating us in terms of less deaths per million. Post your crying emoji here.
It’s dispicable that people are forced to inject ‘horse paste’ when a safe, effective early treatment for Covid is being shat upon by MSM and pHarma’s minions.
Instead, we’re told to wait at home until we turn blue…and *then* some kind of treatment will happen.
Why o why do “stupid” people resort to horse paste…?
*injest*
fuck
“Instead, we’re told to wait at home until we turn blue…and *then* some kind of treatment will happen.”
It is utterly disgusting. And so are the people advocating that or a never before used “vaccine” are your only choice.
So, Joe Rogan is a horse killer and moron.
1 in 400 Floridians alive @ March 2020 is now dead from Covid.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/florida-surpasses-50-000-coronavirus-deaths-a-quarter-have-come-this-summer-01631829952?siteid=yhoof2
Soon, Florida will be a solid blue state.
Who cares what you think.
Well, that’s one way to flip a state. Are we sure that the right wing of the GOP aren’t really liberals in disguise, 🐺s in 🐑s’ clothing (pun intended – baaaah!)?🤔🤭🤫
Stock Up On Canning Jars FOr Ye Old Apocalypse.
Stupid is as stupid does
yeah like taking a vaccine from a guy who wants depopulation
Funny, people actually believe a horse de-wormer will prevent them from getting a virus. Doctors in India are the believable source. This is a country in which 75% of the population shits in the bushes. I am sure humans in a country with no sewage treatment have worms and maybe think it’s covid.
Funny, people think weed has any medicinal value.
Funny how people think a drug will work based on Google search.
Facts for you.
https://www.prevention.com/health/amp37594991/why-people-think-ivermectin-works-for-covid/
Nothing like denigrating an entire nation in order to score some political points
Just reiterating the results of my web search. I know it’s not medical advice but just as trustworthy.
I’m so good with this. 😂😂
Perhaps it’ll go down easier with a little carrot juice. 🙄
I just wonder if there’s a corresponding increase in Depends sales. 🥺
Could be a real mess in somebody’s truck. Roads around here are rough.
The human formulation of Ivermectin – in the recommended dosages – has been used safely billions of times in the 30-40 years it has been in use and it is considered by the WHO to be one of the indispensable drugs in human medical practice. Unfortunately, at this point, there is no evidence it helps the treatment or prevention of COVID. This is unfortunate because the vaccines available have not been administered to enough people either through conscious decisions or unavailability in many parts of the world. We desperately need an inexpensive, safe drug to treat COVID in the absence of vaccine utilization and availability.
If you can get a vaccine, do it. But if you get COVID, do not use an animal formulation of Ivermectin. Something like the horse paste will not be made to human tolerance specifications. Because large animals are administered large amounts, the active ingredient is likely not mixed in well enough to ensure even distribution in the paste and a human should most definitely not take a horse (or other large animal) quantity of any medication. It is also possible there will be contaminants in a large animal medication which are perfectly safe – for something weighing a thousand pounds or more. For human-sized creatures, not so much.
If you are going to use Ivermectin, use the human version under your doctor’s supervision. Never use the animal paste.
Even a doctor that won’t prescribe it can monitor your health when you use it.
If you can’t be honest with your doctor, it’s time to find another doctor.
Or, conversely, if you have to lie to your doctor you should really reconsider what you are doing.
How much more economical can you get than FREE????
Horse = 1000+ lbs
Human = 200+/- lbs
Horse med = 5-6 times Human med
I just can’t get past the size of the needle. What is that, like a ten penny nail?
It’s got a weight measure on the plunger. That shouldn’t be an issue if they read the package insert. It’s all the other 98% of the other stuff that’s not ivermectin that’s really scary. Even the product in the photo has praziquantel and who knows what the human dose of that is. It will get rid of your tapeworms though.
It’s not mixed well. Doesn’t need to be for 1000 lb animal. Probably won’t kill someone if they hit a pocket of the “good” stuff, maybe, IDK, I mean the chances are PRETTY good, but it might induce brain damage in people with a weak blood brain barrier or who are allergic to many insecticides.
It should be effective for spider mites too 😀
I’ve tried the praziquantel blend too. They give that blend to the immigrants.
https://archive.md/SGvx4
https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com
Don’t just hand ‘em the evidence! Next fucking thing you’re gonna do is send the link to the blueprint. Wait, it’s too complicated, they’ll never understand it. Yay, plans still on!
https://youtu.be/OJpJyPzTcv8
It this point i am convinced that the taxpayers are going to have to pay a heavy price for the large amount of stupid people do stupid shit until they pass, its going to be a long decade or so. change brings change so brace yourself.
Don’t deceive yourself, the tax payer has been footing the bill for our population level stupidity for a loooooong time. And the direction the schools are heading is not a reason to expect that to change
all those wasted vaccine boosters will go in the trash. FDA says no way Jose.
I got Covid and took this the first day I found out and my symptoms were gone in two days
“You found out”? Who told you?
I know that’s not what you said, but I read it that way the first time and it tickled me!
Imagine being so fucking beyond dim that you’d avoid a vaccine (when you literally have a lifetime history of receiving them) that’s so far been proven to be ELEVEN more times more effective at reducing death and serious illness against a very real, savage and raging pandemic- but then deciding you’re better off treating yourself after infection with a horse dewormer instead. I always knew constant cuts to education would have consequences, but honestly how dumb do you have to be to think something that fights parasites will cure a virus? And deciding to forgo the physician and pick up the horse version instead? Even more hilarious is that it’s common knowledge (again maybe I have expected too much of folks) most viruses generally cannot be cured in the first place. I guess if there’s ANY fortunate news in all this is that the very folks this stupid are doing themselves in at pleasantly alarming rates. And calling you “sheep” the whole way to the hospital and/or grave.
WELL stated!!!
It ain’t a vaccine
It’s a gene altering medical device.
You apparently don’t know what a vaccine does, or what gene alteration is.
Apparently you are unfamiliar with power and control. Anyone who can fuck up an Afghanistan drone strike, does not qualify as leadership.
Wow, you have a very short memory about fucked up military strikes, dead civilians, war crimes, etc. And Biden didn’t pull the trigger (if he was even involved in the decision) any more that Trump did when he was Commander in Chief. You wight want to look in the mirror, I think your partisan panties are showing!
Unless they’ve changed it from the Obama years, the drone program required direct approval for each strike from the commander in chief
80 plus billion of us tax payers $ left behind.
There’s nothing from this administration that warrants respect.
Just indictments.
yup
Imagine being so dim and lacking in critical thinking skills that you literally believe the quack Cohen when he says, “The only way to avoid this illness is vaccination. It worked with chickenpox, diphtheria, and tetanus. The COVID-19 vaccine is more effective and safer than any vaccine in history.”
So much BS. I guess some people love to be lied to.
You are not welcome to your own facts…but you are clearly welcome to your own delusion.
tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/uttar-pradesh-india-announces-state-is-covid-19-free/98350393/
“Imagine being so fucking beyond dim that you’d avoid a vaccine (when you literally have a lifetime history of receiving them) that’s so far been proven to be ELEVEN more times more effective at reducing death”
Imagine being so fucking beyond dim that you don’t recognize the difference between the entire history of how vaccines were made and the current mRNA “vaccine” and then calling people dim.
By the way, since the “vaccines” are “11 times more effective” (than something?), how many people have died or been seriously injured by the “vaccine”?
The horse stuff, is different than the human stuff. The horse stuff makes ya poop your pants. What’s worse than having COVID-19? COVID and poop in your pants.
They often go hand in hand, unfortunately. Depends on which symptoms you get most prominently. I guess if you didn’t get the gi symptoms you still could with the horse paste though. 🤣
No poop for me
Posting this summary of scientific research as an alternative to the fear porn propaganda from Big Pharma.
Could you please state where you got it? the url appears to be http://ivrnmeta.com/ but that is not a good link.
It’s ivmmeta. I had to blow up the image all the way to see.
Also, from another website discussing ivmmeta (and others) and the problems with meta (heh, I just realized it’s right in the name) analysis.
https://ebm.bmj.com/content/early/2021/05/26/bmjebm-2021-111678
Different websites (such as https://ivmmeta.com/, https://c19ivermectin.com/, https://tratamientotemprano.org/estudios-ivermectina/, among others) have conducted meta-analyses with ivermectin studies, showing unpublished colourful forest plots which rapidly gained public acknowledgement and were disseminated via social media, without following any methodological or report guidelines. These websites do not include protocol registration with methods, search strategies, inclusion criteria, quality assessment of the included studies nor the certainty of the evidence of the pooled estimates. Prospective registration of systematic reviews with or without meta-analysis protocols is a key feature for providing transparency in the review process and ensuring protection against reporting biases, by revealing differences between the methods or outcomes reported in the published review and those planned in the registered protocol. These websites show pooled estimates suggesting significant benefits with ivermectin, which has resulted in confusion for clinicians, patients and even decision-makers. This is usually a problem when performing meta-analyses which are not based in rigorous systematic reviews, often leading to spread spurious or fallacious findings.36
Thank you for saving me the work of doing that!
You are very welcome!
I just want to mention that I absolutely love the italics and bold options. The others, too, but those two are my favorites.
Cochran Reviews are a highly trusted source for proper metanalysis.
Per their review dated July 28: “Based on the current very low‐ to low‐certainty evidence, we are uncertain about the efficacy and safety of ivermectin used to treat or prevent COVID‐19. The completed studies are small and few are considered high quality. Overall, the reliable evidence available does not support the use of ivermectin for treatment or prevention of COVID‐19 outside of well‐designed randomized trials.”
“Evaluation of ivermectin is continuing in 31 ongoing studies, and we will update this review with their results when they become available. “
https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD015017.pub2/full
Would this be a bad time to ask you to lie about covid vaxxxinez being 97+% effective?
Last fall, Pfizer reported 95% effectiveness for their vaccine. (https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-conclude-phase-3-study-covid-19-vaccine)
Please note, the 95% number was a measurement, and it reflected the real-world conditions that existed prior to November.
At no time did anyone predict that the protective effect of the vaccine would remain at 95% forever.
The vaccine at that time was not tested against the delta variant, which didn’t start spreading widely until December.
The reason we get an influenza vaccine every fall, instead of once in lifetime, is to account for new strains and variants.
Indeed, Pfizer-BioNTech announced in July that they “are developing an updated version of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine that targets the full spike protein of the Delta variant. The first batch of the mRNA for the trial has already been manufactured at BioNTech’s facility in Mainz, Germany. The Companies anticipate the clinical studies to begin in August, subject to regulatory approvals.” (https://investors.biontech.de/news-releases/news-release-details/pfizer-and-biontech-provide-update-booster-program-light-delta)
In the meantime, I got a booster and I was happy to do so.
https://ivmmeta.com/
Thank you
Concerning this meta-analysis, they say:
“While many treatments have some level of efficacy, they do not replace vaccines and other measures to avoid infection. Only 27% of ivermectin studies show zero events in the treatment arm.
Elimination of COVID-19 is a race against viral evolution. No treatment, vaccine, or intervention is 100% available and effective for all current and future variants. All practical, effective, and safe means should be used.”
Many proponents of ivermectin seem to take the position that the currently available vaccines are unnecessary because ivermectin is available.
The meta-analysis authors contradict this view, at least to the point of not saying vaccines are unnecessary (while not specifically endorsing currently available vaccines.)
I’m pro-vaccines (all of them) and I will be pro-ivermectin when it gets approved.
There’s so much stupidity in the room it’s hard to breathe. Times of Israel today Google it has a great bit on Pfizer’s efficacy! Want covid and shitty drawer’s keep taking the worm/parasite medicine. Want to lesson the impact covid could have on your body and the bodies of those you care about then get the double jab ASAP!
Link it if you read it. Otherwise it didn’t happen.
How’s it going in Palestine?
We’re doing 10 jabs, now. Keep up.
Awake yet?
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/san-francisco/photo-shows-mayor-breed-maskless-at-a-san-francisco-nightclub/2659112/
Yea the horse paste is a dumb idea.. I do however know a few people who were prescribed medical grade ivermectin for use in humans to combat their covid infection and it worked, along side some of natural remedies.. buying horse paste at a feed store is just kinda dumb, but talking to your doctor is not
Because someone got better does NOT mean it worked.
It MAY have.
Maybe not.
A few anecdotal cases is far from conclusive data.
Cool third hand reporting.
*McAsey explained. She remembered a mother and daughter coming into the store, purchasing the product, and overhearing the daughter ask her mother as they left, “So, Mommy, are we sick.” The mother reportedly replied, “We’re not sick yet. This is just in case.”*
Memory is usually inaccurate. This is sensationalistic rumors and hearsay.
Matt I know you can do better.
Waaah! Someone made fun of my ignorant belief! And, by the, it’s second-hand, but maybe that’s a side effect of Ivermectin.
Not going to be turning to something called “Redheaded Blackbelt” for medical advice. It’s a shame that Kym allows this on a widely read website, but she has a history of trying to divide people
Yeah. She pretty much lets anyone post comments. That is pretty divisive of her for sure.
But you’ll go to any easily debunked site or social media post and take it as gospel?
That was in response to Dim. Guest, I took your post as sarcasm, at least I hope it was.
FDA voted 16-2 against Boosters.
The Defender Childrens Health
Sept 17 2021
Oregon Senators File Grand Jury Petition Alleging CDC, FDA Violated Federal Law by Inflating COVID Death Data
Two Oregon state senators, representing American citizens with professional expertise in medicine, law, statistics and death certificate reporting, jointly filed a formal petition for a federal grand jury investigation into the CDC’s and FDA’s reporting on COVID deaths.
By
childrenshealthdefense.org/authors/stand-for-health-freedom/” target=”_blank” rel=”noopener nofollow ugc”>Stand for Health Freedom
Let me guess, they are right-wing Trump supporters who also supported Ammon Bundy’s takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, and one of them opened the door of the state capitol for the armed anti-lockdown protesters?
Besides, an Oregon grand jury has no authority to investigate or bring charges against a federal authority. It’s called political grandstanding to win supporters and gain donations.
Actually thats RFK…. You know, Bobby Kennedy’s kid.
Thanks Kym, the comment section on this article is just pure gold.
World Tribune
Report: 30,000 in UK died from Covid within 3 weeks of getting the Covid jab
By Editor Two on September 17, 2021
From the inside. https://www.bitchute.com/video/gigUyK3yLtMU/
On avg 1452 people die every day in England.
In 3wks that’s…wait for it…
30,493
Used 2019 #s.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsregisteredinenglandandwalesseriesdrreferencetables
Alberta, a turd is just a turd.
You also seem to have a little bit of one stuck in your teeth.
So the vaccines and lockdowns did…nothing?
I guess it was Pfizer data that demonstrated no impact on mortality clinically. Surprising to see it reflected in the real world
We’ve been SCAMMED Folks.
On September 12, 2019,
the World Health Organization (WHO)
and the European Commission (EC)
held the first-ever
Global Vaccination
Summit in Brussels.
The long-term objective of the gathering—
which took place just
weeks
before
the pandemic
paralyzed the world—
was to bring “high-level visibility and political endorsement to the topic of vaccination”
and to engage political leaders and leaders from scientific, medical, industry, philanthropic,
social media (Facebook) and civil society
You are part of the scam.
Laying with conartists.
FACEBOO WHO WORLD SUMMIT
SCAM
uncoverdc.us20.list-manage.com/track/click?u=aeca751dc5764068abde7bdb4&id=632d4c7f1e&e=f7744612a1
Maybe it’s Stockholm. ..
Numbnuts.
Ivermectin and COVID-19 Link Roll-Up #1 | American Partisan
Ivermectin | Barnhardt
Your looking at 1cc per 110 pounds… every other day..for 3 days at the start of the COVID or other inflamation virus. HCQ is the same… prevents inflamation..which will help prevent lung “water”… pneumonia…and so forth.
India… central Africa… the equator countries…they take 3mg at church every Sunday for parasites. They also have not had the COVID flares we have had. Is that deficiency in reporting statistics….or have they found the magic bullet? India…look up India Covid..and Iver treatments.
The medicine….it often comes down…not to science…but to Trump hatred. One political side will demonize anything Orange Man said…even..if part of it was true. I suppose the same is true for anything that comes from “Bumbles” the alzheimers presidents face too…even if part of what he says is true.
I have personally done the 3 day Iver cycle twice… been in “a many” ICU hot ward…. non vacced…and have not been sick. I’ve waded in COVID both original ..and the upgraded D variety. Over 100 times… closer to 150 times “hot” exposure.
Take it for what it’s worth I guess… got O + blood type…which is a help…
We hope nobody gets sick. That’s what we hope for.
Norman Greenbaum – Spirit In The Sky -1969 – YouTube
The covid circle jerk on this site is nauseating. If you want the vax, you already have it. If you don’t, no amount of brow beating is going to change it.
Leave it alone and be good neighbors. You’ll bring more into this world with a smile and a kind word than chastising about vax’s and masks.
COVIDCIRCLEJERK.COM
(and a few stories on local fires, weed, and other items)
If you have made up your mind you absolutely MUST use this dewormer, please get a prescription for humans from a human doctor. You can do this without leaving your house either through health and telemedicine apps or by simply calling and speaking to your physician. People have been prescribed ivermectin and Prednisone for the treatment of CoVID and claimed it worked for them, according to recent news articles. Unfortunately, like animal and pet food, animal medications are not as regulated and often have very different formulations,concentrations, and safety standards when compared to the same medicine prescribed for human use. Think, please. I am neither for or against the use of this or any other out of the ordinary medication for the treatment of a potentially deadly virus. However, I think people, under normal circumstances, would never consider taking a dewormer for an animal many ti!we their size. Please make an intelligent decision.
Getting a prescription is easy. Getting a pharmacy to fill it is almost IMPOSSIBLE. Ask me how I know . . .
Front Line Doc’s
Can confirm was in tractor supply today in GL and all they had left was the “blend” they give immigrants. More on the way soon they said.
https://archive.md/SGvx4
this is where we are at folks.
The meme misses “the vital context that refugees are given ivermectin for infections unrelated to the novel coronavirus.” https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-afghanistan-refugees/fact-check-the-u-s-prescribes-ivermectin-to-refugees-for-parasitic-worms-not-covid-19-idUSL1N2Q605Q
I am aware of the reasons they are requiring immigrants to take IVM.
https://archive.md/SGvx4
I linked in above post.
Alex Jones takes it live on air so it must work!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1uY-z3AtaM
Good night folks. Don’t forget to tip your bartender!!!!
The state of Uttar Pradesh in India made ivermectin widely available. The other Indian states did not so much. Look at the differences, it’s not hard to figure out. They of course used the human version, Do Not use animal version, and consult a doctor on dosage. In a few months time everyone will know the truth on ivermectin. It is truly astounding the amount of lies in this world.
Oh well the US did no good studies? You’re right they did not! And it was on purpose. It’s been two years and legit people were saying it from the beginning. Look it up! And use DuckDuckGo not google, because they think you are a puppet on a string
Important to know Google censors results…cuz they sure do.
Well, that’s great. All of them will die like you wanted and then you’ll be happy and safe.
Why no mandates for the influx of people coming here, they aren’t getting jabbed and there is no mandate for them.
This is just one place they are entering, posted by the lefts favorite CNN, so you don’t claim right wing.
What other infections are they spreading among themselves, and next to everyone, that we will be dealing with? WHY is Biden doing this to us, and to them?? Then there are those just jumping the border, not waiting to be processed.
Thousands of migrants — including families, pregnant women and babies — were crowded in the makeshift camp under the Del Rio International Bridge on Friday. They sleep in the dirt, surrounded by growing piles of garbage, exposed to the elements and without much food and water in hopes of being processed by the overwhelmed US Border Patrol.
“These people are desperate … and they’re determined to get here,” said Val Verde County Sheriff Joe Frank Martinez.
The number of migrants — many of them Haitian — assembled in the temporary site has swelled from roughly 400 one week ago to around 13,990 on Friday in a mounting immigration crisis for the Biden administration.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/17/us/texas-del-rio-migrants-bridge/index.html
Our Federal government has wisely decided not to test for the ‘vid because if they did they would be responsible for looking after the infected, providing for their needs while in quarantine and soforth. Our government would prefer the state of Texas covered those bills. On the plus side, even people who aren’t in a position to choose prefer Texas to California. Not just babies, either.
Those people are from Haiti and might potentially vote wrong, so Kamala’s packing them back to their shithole country toot suite.
Oh hell…anything goes I think Ill have some Alpo for dinner washed down with goat replacer formula and Ill take a bath in sheep dip! Then I will take some wormer formulated for a 1500# animal. This should be fun. Whatever hey kids KIBBLE FOR BREAKFAST!!! ❤
It’s funny that people act like Ivermectin is not intended for humans as well as livestock, there is an ivermectin product approved for human consumption, the CDC and Mayo Clinic have information on how people should take the ivermectin pill with a glass of water and it will help to ease certain symptoms. However, it is very easy to overdose on the paste and it is NOT A CURE, it simply alleviates some symptoms. Vaccines are the best way to prevent serious illness.
Tristan –
Truth is known with time….
Ivermectin Dosage Guide + Max Dose, Adjustments – Drugs.com
For many people… the various mRNA jabs are the correct prescription..for prevention.
With not only the science of droplet dispersal…but more importantly..the fear that some people harbor towards catching the ‘rona… masking in close human contact quarters…if that is what Rome is doing… then.. bend a little…do that. A small thing to do..to ease others fears… spread out….
Up here in the Rogue Valley…we had a vac rate of about 50 to 60%…and we had lots of COVID fatalities. Most were older, non vac..and had underlying conditions such as copd, obesity, a syndrome…. diabetic…heart problems… weak to begin with….and the covid killed them.
Most of my own family and friends were/are non vac-ed…have had the COVID…and it was just a hard flu.
Coronavirus Watch – Medford News, Weather, Sports & Breaking News – KDRV
Part of the Oregon non participate in vacs is directly related to the messenger… the Oregon Governor …is not popular in 33 of the 36 ORE counties. They would take death over dealing with her…and that’s the truth of it. She refuses to subjugate the health portion of her duties to a more tolerable spokes person.
Lots of those older and weaker people that died in the Asante and Providence hospital system….could of been saved by simply taking the mRNA vac.
I have a neighbor that is having a hard menopause. Her hormone levels are near zero…and her white blood count is way below minimums.
She should not take an mRNA vaccine…until her white blood cell counts raise to normal…. her doctor thinks the same..but her employer..the State of Oregon….
…they don’t give a shit about her. They just want to jab every body.
100% compliance or death!
33 of the 36 ORE counties.
First *twitch* it’s OR or Oregon. Seeing ORE is charmingly outdated.
Secondly, while I’m not bothering to check that, I get a chuckle out of that broad statement, because there are a shitton of Oregon counties that have very few people in them. Harney, the largest (and 10th largest in the US) has 7300 people in 10,000 plus square miles. Another, Sherman, has less than 1800 people. Wheeler has less than 1500.
The 2nd Congressional district that cover over 2/3rds (closer to 3/4s) of Oregon has something like 700K people. There are more people in the smallest county (under 500 sq. miles) Multnomah, nearly 820,000, than in all the 2nd district.
Angela. The Will a Met valley out votes the rest of Oregon… your correct.
Many of the coast counties are also totally outvoted by Portland, Salem, Corvallis…and Eugene. Eugene is a bit more fractured politically…and Corvallis is surrounded by rural lands…which tend to vote conservative. OSU is a state vassel now… Salem has really pulled the leash on funding/vac restraints.
Linthicum addresses it here:
https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/linthicum/Documents/Prof%20Boghossians%20Mistreatment%20Proves%20Academic%20Freedom%20and%20Honesty%20are%20Dead%20in%20Oregon%E2%80%99s%20Public%20University%20System.pdf
The single federal rep that is rural is Cliff Bentz..who sits in Greg Walden’s old seat. DeFazio is a Clinton-onian Democrat…socialist… a spender. The guy loves the wild lands… which not such a bad thing. Betsy Johnson… a democrat…is probably the most fiscal conservative of the dominate party in Salem legislature. Courtney often puts her in ways and means leadership roles. Kotek… Gov Brown… they are basically Democratic socialists. There are some hard core communists also… gun confiscation people..that are elected reps in Oregon legislature also… some from belief system..some from life experiences.
We have Linthicum, Kim Wallan… and Art Robinson… Dallas Heard..on the south end…that are pure conservative and Old Testament Constitutionalists. Brian Boquist is also rising to that level…
The Two U.S. Constitutions – The Daily Reckoning
Most of other minority republicans bent a little on acid test issues like gun control and so forth in this last session. Columbia county is in a fight with outside NGO’s …over a common vote of the people:
Here We Go Again – Oregon Firearms Federation
I was ORE born..raised..made a living on the Klamath, Rogue and Umpqua drainages basically…. worked for private..and several governmental.
Rural boy. So… tend to be a conservative boy. That’s ok..right?
We are going off topic on Kym’s blog on Ivermictin. We should stay on point. She is gracious enough to provide a place for free discussion..and we should honor that.
USEFULNESS of Topic Ivermectin and Carrageenan to Prevent Contagion of Covid 19 – Full Text View – ClinicalTrials.gov
A Progressive Biologist From Portland Is One of the Nation’s Leading Advocates for Ivermectin
Nice to talk with you… take care.
Lol…never said that. It is the animal form. Many drugs are used across species but require dosage or strength adjustments. Off label use is the issue.
The twisting, comprehension struggles, but, what, well arguments. Society sadly struggles to be satisfied with their never ending search.
Like a serial dater…I need a wife…bemoans it to all…date hundreds…none ever meet the standard…looking their whole life.
Always something new to erase the present…MEH… on to the next.
Never satisfied.