St. Joe’s ICU Full, New COVID Rooms Crafted as Equipment and Staff Shortages Make Situation Desperate, Other Hospitals Facing Similar Situations
One frustrated employee explained, “All the beds are taken. They’re talking about converting the PACU – post anesthesia care unit – into a secondary ICU because people are unvaccinated monsters!”
A nurse told us. “We are doing our best and our team is tired. They are just done.” The hospital is stretched thin to the point of having borrowed beds recently from Santa Rosa, and it recently had to make temporary modifications to rooms for COVID patients just to keep up.
This is unsurprising when taking into account the grim synopsis delivered to the Board of Supervisors last week from Humboldt County’s Public Health Officer Dr. Ian Hoffman. Confirming that the hospital and all others within Humboldt County had been at 100% capacity for “most of the past two weeks”, Hoffman also mentioned that several patients are being flown out of the area for treatment due to a lack of services available in Humboldt. Hoffman’s written update to the board stated in part, that the County’s ICU capacity “continues to be half or more COVID-19 patients, and has thus resulted in cancellation of many needed procedures that were deemed not emergencies… .” Hoffman clarified, “[T]he types of care that become deferred by the hospital during a surge of this type include things such as heart surgeries, cancer surgeries, joint and back surgeries.”
Another worrisome sign Hoffman noted was an increasing “trend toward younger and younger hospitalizations, likely since this is the group with the lowest vaccination rates in our county.”
As the flow of COVID-19 positive patients continues, nurses and staff at the hospital in Eureka are scrambling at times to accommodate the influx, on top of the normally full-throttle daily routine of caregivers at St. Joseph Hospital, the concentrated area where COVID-19 beds were arranged has sprawled out into various departments of the hospital campus. Currently, according to sources working directly with COVID-19 patients, they are putting them wherever there is an open room. It is all hands on deck, including the engineering team, as the COVID cases keep coming.
When we inquired with caregivers about how exactly the patients are being cared for in surge times, the consensus was that the hospital is doing it’s best to comply with Cal-OSHA standards requiring negative pressure airflow and HEPA filtration, effectively isolating patients in regular rooms, that are modified to conform to COVID-19 care standards. As one employee put it, “Those Covid patients are scattered around the hospital like chocolate chips in a cookie. That is unacceptable. We need some designated areas. We need to upstaff to take appropriate care of these patients just because of the time consumption that is involved.”
The staff say they are overwhelmed in their various assignments on a day to day basis. The increased time and use of equipment needed to care for these COVID-19 infected patients is exhausting caregivers as well as resources and beds.“When you have this many patients all at once, all across the County,…there’s no plan that can plan adequately for that. It’s a difficult job, and it’s one that we don’t want to be in…[V]accination could have prevented this.” said Humboldt County’s Public Health Officer Dr. Ian Hoffman today.
Last week, before the ICU reached full capacity, a staff member told us that COVID patients are also in the relatively new IMCU. “They increased the spillover from the ICU into the IMCU, the first three rooms are Covid rooms right now,” they explained… “So it looks like there are six patients in the ICU, but there are three more in the IMCU (Intermediate Care Unit) which is covered by ICU staff.”
When a person comes to the hospital needing COVID-19 care, if they are admitted, depending on the severity of their situation, they may be placed in an ICU isolation room, or in the Progressive Care Unit (PCU), or in the Intermediate Care Unit (IMCU), or in any room available that can be modified by the hospital’s engineering department into an isolation room with negative air flow.
While it is clear that these patients are situated according to their needs, the hospital is struggling to make space, according to multiple sources. One staff member who works with COVID patients regularly explained, “In regards to how they are housing Covid patients now, it’s called the RCU, they took it down back in the end of June, beginning of July and started integrating patients into just regular isolation rooms.”
These hospital-hacked COVID rooms are visible from the parking lot, and some from the street, identifiable because of their plywood installation and circular vent cutout in the window. These are likely occupied due to the current capacity level, but we are told that the windows remain modified for future COVID-19 care, after a patient recovers or (in some cases) expires.
A text received by our reporter from within the ICU confirmed for us Friday, August 20, that all of St. Joseph Hospital’s 12 ICU beds as well as several more in the ‘spillover’ Intermediate Care Unit were occupied with COVID patients. One employee, who says they are frequently stretched thin to the point of having to miss breaks and work overtime, was adamant that an emergency plan needed to be discussed in order to address immediate concerns about patient care and safety. “What is the emergency step plan for this surge?” they asked.
In a virtual Press Conference this morning, Dr. Hoffman confirmed that six patients have been transferred to neighboring area hospitals due to lack of beds available. He also mentioned that the hospital has negotiated a deal with the state to acquire additional staff to assist locally with the ongoing surge of unvaccinated infections.
Hoffman was not able to offer any details as to how many additional nurses or staff would be made available, but indicated he was hopeful that help would be arriving soon. While the struggle continues in real time at the ER in Eureka, Dr. Hoffman noted that the overflow site previously set up at Redwood Acres was dismantled due to lack of staffing available to work the site. Beds must be staffed accordingly, and without personnel, there can be no services provided.
Hoffman told our reporter, “Many many have retired from the stress of this pandemic. The extraordinary toll it takes to care for COVID patients has forced early retirement on many nurses.” He added, “So with this current surge, given the current numbers we’re seeing, we’re competing against – not just our local counties that are surging worse than us, like Del Norte…”
Alluding to a decision to expand ICU capacity locally, Hoffman was hopeful that when additional ER staffing arrives, those additional beds will ease the strain of resources.
At the time of publishing, there are 33 currently hospitalized [updated at 1 p.m.] with COVID in the County, and 11 of those are noted in the ICU. To date, 65 county residents have died from the infection. Between August 7 – 13, Humboldt County added 30 hospitalizations for COVID-19 county-wide, and counted an additional 2 deaths that week. Last week was similar, counting 29 added to hospital beds, and 4 lives lost between August 14 – 22 and three dead in yesterday’s count alone..
California’s hospitalization data shows that St. Joseph Hospital counted 15 COVID-19 patients in ICU care on August 19, 2021, when the ICU hit full capacity in Eureka. Several sources confirmed for the Redheaded Blackbelt that the Emergency Department recently has not been able to process patients in a timely way, at times causing next-day waits for people needing attention, and even turning away people who would otherwise have been admitted for care, but could not be tended to at the time they arrived. One staff member woefully explained that standards of care are simply not able to be met under the current surge circumstances.
We were told, “The staffing situation is so bad right now that there are COVID-positive patients that, ordinarily, if somebody came into the hospital with the symptoms that they have, they would be admitted because that’s what we have to do, but instead because of our bed limitations we are sending people home. We are not meeting the standard of care we have set out for ourselves.”
This was a regrettable situation, but one that would theoretically be addressed within the scope of an emergency step plan, or surge overflow plan. Not only are COVID-positive community members potentially not being treated in hospital due to lack of beds and/or equipment, but non-COVID medical appointments are being canceled or postponed, and non-COVID emergencies are also potentially unable to adequately be addressed for this same reason. The surge in unvaccinated COVID-19 cases is too much for the hospital capacity to bear.
One interviewed employee exclaimed in frustration, “Right now it feels like the wild wild West and people can just do what they want to do. And that’s not OK. This is a hospital! There has to be structure and there has to be plans, and we can’t just keep moving in crisis mode. This is not working.” They went on to describe the influx of COVID patients, and which departments are housing and caring for them. COVID patients are not only in the ICU, they are on the Med-Surg level, also in the progressive care unit, and in the relatively new Intermediate Care Unit (IMCU).
A HOSPITAL CONFORMED TO COVID CARE
Describing how a normal, non-negative pressure hospital room is converted in to a room suitable to meet CAl-OSHA standards for protections when dealing with highly infectious aerosolized disease, one staff member explained, “Basically, what they do when they need to set up a Covid room…[I]f they don’t have one already available- engineering will come in and will seal off the vents that go back into the main hospital. They will open the window fully and attach a plywood wall in the window, and then attach the HEPA vent, and the filtration system is put out the window.”
In a challenging setting, nurses and aides must do what they can with what they have, as staff have adapted to the new, modified work space. “They have these big box filters…[I]t’s filtering the air and they have the window sealed off with the tube going out the window. It’s not a true negative pressure room, but they have a filter in there. Engineering comes in, and they do a great job.”
Another staff member expressed confidence in the team effort to provide safe care, saying, “Engineering is good. They check every room that has regular negative pressure on a regular basis to make sure that the negative airflow is intact.”
In regard to the organization of the high-acuity COVID-19 patients throughout the hospital’s sprawling departments, there were some concerns among staff. One veteran caregiver explained, “Ideally, it is clear that you would want to cohort [group] these patients.”
With many years of experience treating very ill patients with a variety of serious ailments, this expert explained that the industry’s best practices dictate how to care for patients in a hospital setting. “You would want to have one nurse focusing on those Covid-positive patients, whether it be in ICU or a Respiratory Care Unit, Or in the intermediate care unit. That would be best practice because you were working with a highly infectious disease.”
Aspects of care considered with best practices include patient isolation in a negative pressure room, specialized care from the same caregiver in order to limit the exposure to the patients, accompanied by required ventilation and adequate protective measures including PPE for all staff.
Keeping all the COVID patients in one area of the hospital, isolated from the rest of the hospital and the patients staying there, is likely not possible without reorganizing high acuity care units across the hospital campus. Instead of arranging the COVID-19 hospitalizations all together, as a cohort, staff are having to simply put the patients “wherever there’s an available room.”
Seeming resigned to the inevitability of the surge, the staff member told us, “It is so much easier for the hospital to get the patients out of the emergency department if you can just put them wherever there is an empty room.”
One reason there is concern regarding where and how a COVID-19 patient is housed relates to the containment of the aerosolized particles that are floating around in the patient’s hospital room. Typically when a patient like this is hospitalized, they are in a negative pressure room, with an adjoining room for a barrier from the common areas outside the hospital room. With these modified rooms, not all of them have this feature – similar to when entering a dark room, an anteroom is a like a waiting room which ensures a safe airflow buffer zone between the controlled pressurized space and an unclean area, called the hot zone where viral particles are assumed to be present.
“Now that we are putting them in the places that do not have an anteroom, anytime you open the door to that room, you get a little bit of backflow into the hall or whatever, so that is what we call a warm zone,” one staff member told us. “So that’s another negative effect of having them spread throughout the hospital and not just in the respiratory care unit or in rooms that specifically have anterooms.”
This issue is not pervasive, but has raised concerns.
In order to create a safe air flow in the RCU area, doors are positioned to maintain a certain directional air flow in the hallway outside COVID rooms. “They used to have a loose plastic sheeting up and everything and they have since taken that down,” a staff member told us. “So on one side of the hallway they have the doors permanently closed and then on the other side of the hallway one door is open for ventilation. So, when you walk through that door, all the patient doors are closed so it’s just the main hallway you’re walking into.”
However, in some spaces in the hospital, this is not completely possible to achieve, and so there are a few areas that staff are aware that may contain airborne particles. “In places where there is no ante-room and you’re directly accessing the patient’s hot zone, it creates what they call a temporary warm zone in the hallway,” one explained.
Ideally, the air flow space used to treat this level of infection – same as they would if they had an active case of Measles, Tuberculosis or Smallpox – is controlled enough that ‘warm zones’ are mitigated as much as possible toward being ‘cool zones’ where there is little to zero airborne particle of the virus present.
A COMPLEX DOCUMENT FOR EMERGENCIES
When we asked Providence St. Joseph Hospital in Eureka’s Press Communications Director Christian Hill where we might find information regarding emergency overflow or surge plan as it relates to the pandemic, we were told, “It is a complex document that isn’t intended for the public.”
Several employees of the Hospital specifically asked for information on this topic, because it is not available to them, either. California hospitals are required to have a contingency plan for emergency purposes, such as a viral pandemic.
In California, the Department Of Public Health sets standards and regulations for how public hospitals are run, particularly during emergencies such surge events and crisis situations which cause resources to have to be triaged. According to COVID-19: Crisis Care — Resources for California Hospitals, “Notification Requirements” specifically note that AFL 20-91 adds several new notification requirements, including the following: “All facilities must notify their local CDPH district office and local public health department via email that they have adopted and publicly posted (including a link to the posting) one of the following: their own crisis care continuum guidelines, another facility’s guidelines, or the state’s California Crisis Care Continuum Guidelines.”
While we have yet to discover this “publicly posted” hospital emergency surge contingency plan or any other EOP, nor have we been conveniently directed to it by Hill – we cannot confirm it does not exist. We can, however, confirm that local healthcare workers and their respective Union representatives have not been able to acquire this information either, not for a lack of trying.
The document further specifically mandates, “Facilities that need to implement crisis care, including triage of critical care resources, must notify their local public health department and local CDPH district office via email and phone call immediately when initiating crisis care to ensure the state is aware of conditions at the facility.”
This is a directive meant to inform Public Health, so that CDPH in local jurisdictions is aware and able to respond accordingly, in the interest of public safety. This would start turning the wheels of local public health service announcements, press releases and news inquiries, all aiming to inform the public and mitigate the potential effects of whatever emergency had befallen the local hospital.
To determine when it is appropriate for hospitals to adopt what is considered “crisis care” certain factors are expected to be affecting hospital operations. CDPH offers this example, “[I]f a hospital is providing cot-based care or any intensive care unit (ICU) care is provided outside usual intermediate and pre/post op areas, these are indicators that operations are now into crisis care and should trigger a response action.” The protocol and operational directives regarding how to manage frontline care would be included in what is called an Emergency Operations Plan, sometimes also referred to in the healthcare field as an emergency step plan, and would include how to manage a surge such as in a pandemic.
In regards to seeing an Emergency Operations Plan (EOP) from St. Joseph, we are told that there is a surge plan in place. Dr. Hoffman describes the plan as “really designed to handle more than we are even seeing currently.” He added, “We decided to demobilize the ACS due to predictions around future surges and vaccination rates. We felt confident that we would not need it, that we could handle that potential 80-bed surge then in the hospital.”
According to the CDPH, “principles of crisis care must be integrated into Emergency Operations Plans (EOPs) at all levels of health care.” And, if crisis care does become imminent, including triage of critical care resources, those facilities must “notify their local public health department and local CDPH district office via email and phone call immediately when initiating crisis care to ensure the State is aware of conditions at the facility.”
Speaking with nearly a dozen hospital employees, the staffing levels were not the only major concern brought up by disillusioned hospital workers. Most of them reported experiencing a shortage of equipment used for COVID-19 patient respiratory care, and currently, there are no available non-invasive breathing mechanisms left. They are all being used.
So, as one healthcare worker said, “[T]he options for people right now…For COVID patients or anybody experiencing respiratory distress is high flow oxygen or a ventilator so you’re getting intubated with a tube down your throat… with bipap supplies low. Hospitals usually don’t run into all patients in their care requiring a certain equipment item.”
Another caregiver, frequently tasked with care of COVID-19 positive patients, asked, “How is the hospital planning to respond to the lack of equipment? We are out of the most common size of mask used for the noninvasive ventilators. We are not able to get some of the things we need.” This shortage of equipment is further complicated by elective procedures ongoing during the surge, as these require much of the same resources.
CONTINGENCIES FOR COVID CARE
Regarding the reported shortages in equipment, Providence St. Joseph Hospital in Eureka’s Press Communications Director Christian Hill tells us items have been requested, but did not offer specifics. “We have ordered additional equipment and medication to meet the current and future demand,” he explained. “Some has arrived. Others are coming over the next 2 weeks.”
One staff member explained that in the ER, there is a constant struggle to maintain balance, where too few staff members are available for too many incoming emergent needs. “Sometimes the emergency department is so busy people have to wait for the next day to get care.” This employee explains, “Because there’s not enough doctors and nurses – the emergency department only has 20 rooms and a lot of times half of those rooms are occupied with 5150 patients.” (5150 is the name of the Health Code referring to a person who is experiencing mental health issues.)
Elective surgeries that take up acute care resources (like ICU beds) which would otherwise be used for treating COVID patients were not being canceled across the board, according to our sources. Some of these are ongoing according to feedback received from various departments within the hospital, which further stresses the capacity of caregivers to meet the needs of acute care patients like COVID-19 admissions in the ICU or into the Progressive Care Unit, which both house COVID patients. One staff member told us, “So, we’re doing elective surgeries, and we’re sending people home because we don’t have the beds available.”
However, Dr. Hoffman stated on Tuesday that elective surgeries are being cancelled.
The California Nurses Association has taken the position that staffing ratios directly affect patient care in a serious way. The nurses union has lobbied to institute more controls and oversight on staffing procedures for many years, insisting that “allowing hospitals to set staffing levels that are primarily budget driven, while not setting up a system of accountability, has created a threat to patient safety.”
While some caregivers told us they were comfortable with the current level of organization, there were those that felt very uneasy and questioned the protocol. One staff member lamented, saying, “We have covid positive patients in makeshift rooms where we can’t see them from outside the room. It’s all just so unsafe.” While there are efforts by engineering to correct this problem of not being able to oversee a patient apart from donning and doffing to get into the room to check on them, we do not know how soon these adjustments can be accomplished.
One element of help came in the unexpected form of cameras fixed on patients in their beds, as an alternative to having a nurse, aid, or bedsitter attending to the patient at the bedside. According to our sources, these are cameras that are being monitored off site for patients who are altered, fall risks, etc., as well as for COVID-19 patients who are situated in a room which has been modified to accommodate them, which may not have a window allowing a caregiver to view the patient from inside the room. These new cameras are called “telesitters”, and are monitored by staff in Texas. The remote viewing staff in Texas will alert the local nurses of any safety issues that they observe via the telesitting camera. Designed to assist the nurses on duty by keeping an eye on the patient, the room is outfitted with the camera-microphone system which is remotely monitored by a member of staff who will speak to the patient via the device, if needed. A voice from the remote observer directs the patient as needed, in the absence of a caregiver in the room. “Now we have robot cameras watching them,” a staff member described to us. “They have this, like, eyeball camera thing on a stick, and it’s in the room and it’s facing the patient watching them.”Describing this new and somewhat unusual technology, they explained how it works in practice. “If the patient takes their oxygen off or tries to pull out their leads, and wires that monitor their heart rate and all that stuff, if they start pulling anything or IVs or anything, there’s a voice in the camera that says to them, ‘put your mask back on, put your mask back on’, or they will say, ‘sir or madam, lay down don’t get out of bed’… .”
According to one staff member, they then asked a manager, “What happens if the patient is actually endangering themselves?” and were told that in that scenario, an alarm would sound and that staff would all be expected to “drop what we’re doing with our patients and go run and help.”
While the cameras do offer some level of security in a situation where they may otherwise be totally left to their own solitude, this nurse concluded, “It does not prevent a patient from harming themselves, and because our staffing ratios are so low, who’s to say that we would be able to get to that patient before they were able to harm themselves?”
One frontline caregiver told us, as we wrapped up the interview, “Our community must get vaccinated if they hope to return to some semblance of normalcy. These covid admissions are completely preventable and are taking up beds in our hospital.”
Another told us that the situation is untenable due to sheer frustration and fatigue among caregivers. Many are expressing outright anger at those choosing to remain unvaccinated as the hospital copes with ongoing turmoil. They speculated, having seen for themselves what the ER and ICU staff are struggling with, “People are now becoming incapacitated and extremely ill, we’re hearing about whole [households] being in the ICU or in the hospital seeking treatment for Covid because people made “my freedoms” and “America” you know, that kind of choice based on politics and not on science to not get vaccinated, and are draining every resource while they attempt to survive their choices… .”
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The solution is clear–hospitals must practice triage to free up ICU beds for people who did NOT avoid vaccination. If a person chooses not to be treated with a vaccine because they’re “independent”, then comes down sick with Covid, they should be allowed to practice their independence recovering at home. That way there will be emergency care for people who care.
Uh huh
“Unvaccinated Monsters”. Definitely don’t want this person carrying for any of MY loved ones. Thank you all for your service.
Ok ok enough debate, I’ve seen the light! I’m going to get it, and you should too😉
Grow up.
The employee who said : ”…because people are unvaccinated monsters!” needs to grow up.
The anti vax groups are growing ever dangerous and the rhetoric is getting worse. For people claiming the moral high ground you sure aim low.
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Chicken little, I am a gun owner and have been for 70 plus years. Your comment about quit being selfish and go purchase a firearm has no place in this article. Kinda sounds like you want the unvaccinated to shoot themselves. Just a crazy ass comment!!
Re Martin: It’s a crazy ass world too
If the sky starts falling, don’t say I
didn’t warn everyone. and if you
think covid killed a lot of people….
Chicken little, I have had my two vaccine shoots from a needle not a gun. You are right, it is a crazy ass world, and the crazy ass people are making it worse.
I’d just like them to shoot up, with vax in the needle!
As an RN i can tell you the vaccine has NOT been proven but to make the stakeholders exceedingly rich. The game is stacked and the numbers game is a lie. In many countries MOST of the patients having bad outcomes are ALREADY vaxxed. Do REAL research and look elsewhere from sensational media stories.
MARK, god help anybody that gets you for a nurse! I suggest you look elsewhere for a job, maybe taking the bodies from the hospital to the funeral home. I hope someone at the hospital where you work will turn you in, and they will fire your ass pronto!!!!
Playacting is a favorite pastime in these threads.
THANK YOU MARK FOR SHARING THE TRUTH
Ok Mark.
Made up comments are what are being stated. Experts have reported vaccinated infected more often survive. I question your claim you are an RN.
Covid-19 HUSH MONEY: $2.2 Trillion CARES Act coercion
Submitted by
Dr. Annie Buracek
Hospitals were being paid to diagnose Covid. That’s one incentive to keep this thing going.
Dr. Annie Buracek, medical doctor for over 30 years.
Among the CDC admitting the tests are flawed, and more and more doctors speaking the truth, why then is the false narrative pressing on? I think about the financial angle in all of this.
The extra money paid for patients who are admitted; Medicare dollars given to hospitals and doctors for admitting someone with covid19 and if they get on a ventilator; it’s $13,000 for the diagnosis if they are admitted, and $39,000 if they are put on a ventilator.
There is also the CARES Act 2020. Whatever the payment is for that hospitalization, they get 20% more than that if they can attach covid to it.
There is also a lot of money being made locally by doctors, hospitals, clergy, and nursing home administrators, teachers, and the public school system. That is one thing most people don’t realize, and the biggest portion of those payments, and we’re talking billions of dollars nation wide, comes from the CARES Act 2020.
We knew early on that the bulk of the CARES Act 2020 money is not going to everyday people. A sizeable portion is actually going to banks, and on a local level a lot is going to hospitals, doctors, clergy, churches, nursing homes.
Hospitals and doctors, $175 billion dollars was given through CARES Act 2020 in addition to the other little perks. $175 billion given to hospitals and doctors.
And we can assume that money is not doled out quite as freely to any doctor who doesn’t follow the covid protocols.
Most people don’t know that. All you have to do is type in ‘CARES Act 2020 reimbursement’.
You nailed it.
Walk a mile in her shoes, then get back to us…
It’s a monstrous statement, but the level of frustration and impotence in St Joseph’s Staff is getting out of control due to fatigue and the trauma of caring for patients who may well expire anyway due to their own foolishness…
The vaccine is free and very widely available. It will most probably keep you out of St Joe’s Hospital, where you probably know it’s not a good idea to be a patient…
Seniors, get your 3rd vaccine at CVS:
Go to CVS.com, rehister as “immunocompromised” 3rd shot, fill our the questionaire, and you will be boostered right away… It didn’t even take an hour…
Everyone else, go to Safeway or Target or Rite Aid or any one of scores of other places, and get your damn vaccine…
You will be glad you did!
VMG, are you a commercial, stakeholder in Moderna/Pfizer stocks? You sound ridiculous.
Well, if you are a nurse, then get your scrubs out and get back to work…
Nurses are dedicated to healing and service, so what is the problem with you?
Drugs? Fired?
You embarrass yourself and the job.
Especially considering this…
I knew there was a reason for not quitting the cigs, besides not being a quitter. Talk about stuffing money into the tobacco companys’ and government’s pockets.
You might try looking at information from Forbes itself rather the meme from political anti vaxxer sites. “A July report from the Israel Ministry of Health found that Pfizer/BioNTech’s Covid-19 vaccine is just 39% effective in Israel, where the Delta variant is the dominant strain but still provides strong protection against severe illness and hospitalization. According to the report, the vaccines still work very well in preventing severe cases, demonstrating 88% effectiveness against hospitalization and 91% effectiveness against severe illness. ” https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhaseltine/2021/08/11/israels-recent-surge-confirms-we-need-a-multimodal-strategy-to-fight-covid-19/?sh=7a9e4db15b6e
Seems like an appropriate description; They are a deadly risk and are harming people with real emergencies, not one of their own making/selfishness. I assume you will just stay home if you get severe COVID…
Most the staff are monsters lol. Would never go there.
Ok I get it, but don’t stoop to their level.
MARK, god help anybody that gets you for a nurse! I suggest you look elsewhere for a job, maybe taking the bodies from the hospital to the funeral home. I hope someone at the hospital where you work will turn you in, and they will fire your ass pronto!!!!
charlie, are you referring to the nursing staff at St. Joe’s? If so, why do you call them monsters. They are working themselves to death trying so hard to keep up with the patient flow into the hospital. It is enough stress to make anyone jump out a window. PLEASE charlie, cut them some slack, after all they are trying to do God’s work and heal the very sick folks there.
Martin, yes I am refuring to the staff and hospital in general. Lazzy staff,, un sanitary.. complain of low wages so they get lazier. haven’t heard of any jumping out a window.
Ps… they are working against God’s will.
You’re trolling, right?
Yeah for sure. I think the hospital could have prepped better.
Nothing is 100 percent good or bad. The state of our health care system is a bad side effect of capitalism.
Hospital administrators are punished or rewarded based upon how much money the hospital makes in the short term. It is the hospital administrators who determine staffing levels, procedures, and the amount and quality of medical supplies on hand. These money based decisions negatively impact staff’s ability to improve the overall health of patients.
If that comment is the thing of greatest significance to you—in this lengthy article’s description of the appalling and completely avoidable health crisis wrought by antivaxxers in this county—I don’t think the hospital or its staff are going to be too upset if you opt NOT to take your unvaxxed relatives to the hospital when they inevitably get sick.
The unvaxxed are a public nuisance and should be completely shut out of civilized society.
Your attitude isn’t any less dangerous than what you claim to be fighting.
In terms of loss of life, it very clearly is. Grow up.
“Your attitude isn’t any less dangerous than what you claim to be fighting.”
An argument without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Unvaxxed should be required to have a recent (weekly)
negative test before they’re allowed out of their home. They have their own choice – Vax or test – but not an option to put society at risk.
Should you decide to forego hospital treatment for COVID because they hurt your antivax feelings, I’m sure you will not be missed.
An ‘unvaccinated monster’, but have a nice day. I hope people have some appreciation for the stress of day to day struggling for each breath, with many losing their lives. Imagine the frustration of being just a witness to all this destruction and death, let alone a caregiver, all the time knowing that virtually all this suffering and grief is easily preventable. Honor these caregivers by allowing them to be human, to be angry and frustrated. “Definitely don’t want AN UNVACCINATED person carrying for any of MY loved ones!”
Ten years ago, they were talking about a TB epidemic, which is why they bought the fans, tubes and filters…
I thought is was funkadelic then, but seeing what they have done, while they refuse to staff adequately, with the cameras so they can watch “without watching” is very upsetting…
They WILL know when you die, since the monitor will flatline…
St Joseph’s has to be the worst example of Corporate Healthcare in Northern California, and I was never happier than when I told them I was finished working there…
St Joseph’s is like the Roach Hotel… You check in, but you don’t check out.
Please run down to Santa Rosa, Willits even, Greenbrae, Sonoma, Oakland, Sacramento, (not Marysville), Chico etc… They all are short of staff but they arenot doing crazy stuff like this!!
Get your damn vaccine, get it now… Don’t be the fool in the makeshift Negative Airflow room, dying of COVID…
It is becoming less likely that there will by anyone to care for our loved ones. My 22 year old daughter spent months as an ICU nurse slowing the rotting of COVID patients, bagging them, and taking them to the morgue.
Not only did nearly all of her COVID patients die, but the few non-COVID patients she got to treat died because they were prematurely moved to areas of the hospital that lacked adequate staffing and equipment. Why were they prematurely removed from her care? – To make way for more COVID patients!
ICU nurses have at least two patients. During the significant periods of time she spent resuscitating one COVID patient (it was not unusual for them to code multiple times a shift), she had no way of knowing what was going on with the other patient (inside a negative pressure room, you can’t hear anything going on outside of it). And there was also no way for her to know if anyone else had the time to check in on the other patient.
Nurses are human beings. Why do people assume that they can continue to perform well after months spent toiling in this environment?
What happened to the alternate care facility at Redwood Acres? Can they not stand that up again?
https://lostcoastoutpost.com/2020/dec/10/media-avail/
From the article, “While the struggle continues in real time at the ER in Eureka, Dr. Hoffman noted that the overflow site previously set up at Redwood Acres was dismantled due to lack of staffing available to work the site. Beds must be staffed accordingly, and without personnel, there can be no services provided. “
They don’t have enough staff. Staff is getting disgusted and quitting or retiring early. They say they are sick of treating unvaccinated people.
Y’all on your own.
Could some be using the unvaccinated as an excuse to quit or threaten to do so? It seems the hospital had big problems long before the pandemic.
I believe the staff was previously, and even recently, saying it was a management problem. Now it’s just the unvaccinated.
You really have difficulty with reading comprehension don’t you. The issue is the unvaccinated that are getting sick and filling hospital beds because they are selfish and uninformed. The problems are exacerbated when the hospital is operating at more than 100% capacity.
Ever heard of the straw that broke the camel’s back? You’re throwing on whole bales.
But the straw that breaks the camel’s back isn’t really to blame in any sane moral system. The blame would fall to the herdsmen who loaded up their charge so dangerously close to failure. I guess in this case that would be a medical system built not on providing for the best possible health of the community but for the most profitable quarter for their investors?
Think PG and E………
They’re also getting fired for not getting jabbed so there’s that
You know of some St. Joe’s employee who got fired for refusing vaccine? Or are you just kicking dirt?
Not all of them..
They been bitching and quiting before the lamedemic
It’s in the article.
“Hoffman was not able to offer any details as to how many additional nurses or staff would be made available, but indicated he was hopeful that help would be arriving soon. While the struggle continues in real time at the ER in Eureka, Dr. Hoffman noted that the overflow site previously set up at Redwood Acres was dismantled due to lack of staffing available to work the site. Beds must be staffed accordingly, and without personnel, there can be no services provided.
Hoffman told our reporter, “Many many have retired from the stress of this pandemic. The extraordinary toll it takes to care for COVID patients has forced early retirement on many nurses.” He added, “So with this current surge, given the current numbers we’re seeing, we’re competing against – not just our local counties that are surging worse than us, like Del Norte…”
Beds aren’t the problem. They can have a thousand beds but without trained staff to be there; they’re useless. But hey, how about all that freedom we got?? Selfish ass people playing around with other’s health like we got another damn life to live!
Just watch the movie OUTBREAK with Dustin Hoffman filmed in Ferndale and it’s Spot On. Wake up Providence St.Joe its time to pull all the stops and get into Super Emergency mode get corporate on board or fire the incompetent ones immediately.
How is it that after a year and half they haven’t made the plans to deal with this?
Did the hospital administrators get sold on the hope from the govt too and decided not to prepare for the worst?
I don’t think anyone expected that almost half the county would be monsters, to use the term from the article.
Ok thanks for being rational. Obviously persuasion isn’t your strength.
It’s yours, though? You are trying to convince yourself that the problem isn’t lack of staff and the overwhelming patient tsunami of unvaccinated idiots.
It’s a perfect storm.
Doesn’t really matter what you “think”. It is what it is, to quote an asshole we all know…
I think the hospitals should start a non-vaccinated infected persons area where if you come in with Covid and you chose not to get vaccinated then you get put in the temporary side care area with a bunch of other people that you can stare at on ventilators. One big room with whatever hospital beds are left after all the vaccinated get the care they need.
I think they should just close the hospitals and let nature take its course.
Better yet is make one hospital in the county covid free. Then people can get their other health needs net.
Sure wish they’d make an actual Vaccine rather than just changing the definition of Vaccine….Cause this mRNA serum is LESS effective than NOTHING.
Oh boy, Pepe 4/Chan bull crap.
So intelligent…
Some people suxk at health?
This is merely a bio weapon that attacks weak immune systems, and maybe a few unlucky ones.
It’s hard to know if you have a weakened, or compromised immune system from years of poor health management and increased environmental toxicity, or a heavy vaccine schedule that ramped up in the late 80s, early 90s.
Cumulative toxity.
Most people here are failing to recognize why many of their assertions about the vaccine and the virus, are lacking a deeper understanding of health and immunology.
I’m personally sick and tired of listening to people with absolutely no liability for other peoples mistakes and lifestyle choices, think that a vaccine is a solution to health.
So when people start pointing out that unvaccinated are the root cause of all this mess, I suggest we take a harder look, moving forward, at people’s lifestyle choices and health score.
If you are working hard to maintain your health and fitness, you should be given priority over someone who IGNORED health and fitness their whole lives.
Health does not come from big pharmaceutical.
This mandate will backfire on the those lazy, apathetic, and ignorant about prevention as a lifestyle.
Ration cards given to those who don’t meet health expectations.
Total control is on the horizon, and many see the path ahead clear as day.
What about mad river?
I think st Joe is the only place with ICU
But we have Remdesivir which i haven’t heard anyone singing the praises of.
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-bizarre-refusal-to-apply-cost
That’s because the goal is NEVER protect Americans…they want us out of the picture, we are far too expensive to lie to constantly, other groups are far better slaves. But don’t take my word for it….
Are we on #6 yet?
Looks like Australia is at 7.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/100410932
wow wow you even threw in some weird sexism at the end there. nice. are women less vaccinated than men?
To be honest, I don’t think the public can handle the measures truly needed to end this. Vaccinations will not solve this and will at best work on the margins.
Much of the heated rhetoric is because of the hospital situation. Why did the hospital administration not prepare for a pandemic a year and a half into this?
I’ve repeatedly heard that one death is too much when it can be prevented. I get the medical pros are exhausted, but their supporter are now driving down a path more dangerous than the actual virus.
Not just exhausted but quitting. I don’t think they think of it as protest or a walk out, but it has the same effect doesn’t it?
So in order to solve this quitting problem everyone needs to vaccinated?
Maybe if people all got vaccinated years ago then there would not have been quitting problem pre pandemic?
Sorry, but the management issue problem hasn’t been resolved and it predates the pandemic. This well known management issue will also stop people from applying to work there.
What’s the solution to the large management issues?
And what is that? Vaccination will absolutely end the pandemic.
Not the health crisis….pandemic of obesity and lack of fitness intelligence, and the junk food that should be taxed like cigarettes when it has absolutely no positive short or long term benefits to the consumer.
Wake up and take note of the root cause of disease comes down to an absence of strength, vitality and health.
No we must learn the basics of self health 101.
Otherwise you don’t deserve to have a voice in this matter.
“…their supporter are now driving down a path more dangerous than the actual virus.”
Oh, great point.
The Bill of Rights will be eroded if society chooses NOT to continue coddling the most stubbornly ignorant, self-absorbed, dysfunctional, uneducated, and anti-social portion of the population, a portion of the population that continues putting society at-large at risk by undercutting our health-care infrastructure, dragging the economy downward with every fresh outbreak, and continuing to infect social life in this country.
Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, and the other architects of American rights would be outraged that we aren’t giving their toxic and anti-science views yet another hearing.
Your clairvoyance with the dead Founders is impressive. Or maybe you just made it up because you have a doctorate degree and were educated at a level higher than us simple folk.
“We Don’t Understand What’s Really Happening” – The CDC Is Under-Counting ‘Breakthrough’ COVID Cases
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/we-dont-understand-whats-really-happening-cdc-under-counting-breakthrough-covid-cases
I guess they’re not really keeping track of breakthrough cases. Doesn’t make any sense we would have a flu outbreak during the height of the summer just a few months after the jab rollout.
I fear something is rotten in Denmark.
Yup you sure are confused. As I read more rhetoric from folks like you online, the word “jab” is a dead giveaway…. this is someone who feels that their personal “freedom” outweighs the health and wellbeing of the larger community, even if it leads to the death of others. There is a word for that kind of person… sociopath.
Yes, Jab is definitely a dead giveaway.
You know along with Jab comes a load of bullshit.
say no to the prick.
no
I see what you did there 😏
zerohedge
That says it all.
It is a time sensitive treatment. It must be started within 10 days of symptoms showing.
“But giving the drug prophylactically prevents only one hospitalization in 100 patients, he said.”
“Monoclonals “are logistically difficult to get to people,” said Gallagher, the Temple pharmacist. People with mild to moderate symptoms may not seek a coronavirus test for days, he said. After a positive test, they usually talk to their primary-care provider, who refers them to an infusion center or hospital. By the time they get to one, the window of effectiveness may be closing, he said.
At Intermountain Healthcare in Salt Lake City, few patients want an injection in each limb or four in their abdomen, said Brandon Webb, chair of the health system’s covid therapeutics committee. The subcutaneous injections have proved most useful in congregate settings such as nursing homes, where health-care workers offer the therapy to many people at once, he said.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/covid-monoclonal-abbott/2021/08/19/a39a0b5e-0029-11ec-a664-4f6de3e17ff0_story.html
People hospitalized may be made worse with this treatment. So if they are in St. Joe’s it not likely going to be of use.
“Sotrovimab is not authorized for use in patients:
who are hospitalized due to COVID-19, OR
who require oxygen therapy due to COVID-19, OR
who require an increase in baseline oxygen flow rate due to COVID-19 (in those on chronic oxygen therapy due to underlying non-COVID-19 related comorbidity).
Benefit of treatment with sotrovimab has not been observed in patients hospitalized due to COVID‑19. SARS-CoV-2 monoclonal antibodies may be associated with worse clinical outcomes when administered to hospitalized patients with COVID‑19 requiring high flow oxygen or mechanical ventilation.”
https://www.sotrovimab.com/?cc=ps_4FYVU9R0NX1040193&mcm=300000&gclsrc=aw.ds&gclid=CjwKCAjw95yJBhAgEiwAmRrutFljJHTu4UyI_yHbZvlOWy-lStSYK-zca8IN04xSx3Y_9lVoxw1ezxoCxFcQAvD_BwE
Or you could have just got vaccinated. This is not an aspirin.
A long article, for a short solution. Do your part. Get a jab, wear a mask, wash your hands, keep your distance, and live. We’re all in this leaky lifeboat – pull your oar! I depend on you. You depend on me. Our children and elders want to thrive. This isn’t the time to pull a useless political wild card.
Please think about the little ones. Please.
Yep, back to school without vaccines, limited effective masking, and plenty of time indoors.
Sounds throughly scientific! What could go wrong?
The unvaccinated monsters should care for themselves best they can at their homes. Give them a Bible and wish them good luck. It’s wrong to allow their personal choices to adversely impact others.
Unvaccinated monsters was a completely savage remark. And pretty sure it violates the Hippocratic oath. Who is that person? Please don’t let them perform direct patient care.
But running with the premise that unvaccinated monsters should care for themselves best they can at their home, same will then apply to the obese person unnecessarily hogging a bed with their advanced diabetes , heart disease, or CANCER, or the alcoholic selfishly using resources
with their pesky liver failure, blood infections or CANCER, or the lifelong tobacco smoker who never gave a shit about themselves or anyone else enough to quit, with their inevitable cardiovascular diseases or CANCER.
From here forward let’s have all the lifestyle /choice disease or injury victims be seen as monsters!!
Shoe on other foot not so comfortable is it?
Considering someone was actually defending our 80% overweight or obese status it hits close to home for most of us
Maybe the fat fucks can all stay home and nurse their own rotting flesh folds. Or turn their own fat asses over in the bed. Or amputate their own feet when they turn gangrenous from the result of their choices!
Oh, and let’s not forget all the drunk, or at-fault drivers in collisions; leave them on the pavement where they deserve to die.
And aspersions must be cast on all stupid people ( like we are all capable of being) those that lose a round with gravity and fall a great distance, breaking both arms, or legs, or suffer a brain bleed. Should have known better, dummies! Go home and “care for yourselves .”
I guess the beds will be exclusively for the smarty vaxxed, (unless they fit any of the above parameters.)
So who gets the beds? Maybe better to be denied a bed because frankly at the rate they kill ya at the hospital, you have equal, or better odds of surviving by toughing it out at home, with your Bible, under a tree in the orchard, eating only what’s within reach, with some dappled light and healing breezes on you. . .
$$$$ Got logic? $$$$!
Thing is our medical system is sized to handle needs that arise from all those human frailties you list but it’s the covid that’s pushed our hospitals to the breaking point. More widespread vaccinations would relieve the current strain on our care providers
So would more widespread control of all other lifestyle diseases.
This is the problem with this militancy toward the non covid vaccinated, there is no language that can reasonably keep it contained to just this single health care choice. If you choose to assert and support the idea that all is individuals should have their Healthcare choices dictated by a central authority targeting the “public good”, then you need to accept that you will also likely fall under some sort of central health management
Amen
We are lucky to be blessed with 2 wonderful neighbors that work in our overwhelmed ER. What are YOU doing to help them?
Tonight we are going to help in a small way with dinner. I know it isn’t much but these people are SO stressed out and it seems the vast majority of folks can’t understand.
Think of the worst day you have ever had at work and multiply it by 1000x.
Im already vaxxed and you covered dinner, got any suggestions?
Mow their lawn, do their dishes, wash their car. Or maybe, just stop by and say Thank You?
Shasta County is suffering the additional trials of anti-vaxxers on staff at the Shasta Regional Medical Center in Redding – This is an excerpt from of one nurse during an interview:
DC: You said you know that some of your colleagues will lie to get around the state vaccine mandates. How would that work, exactly?
RN: Every coworker that has told me they are not going to get it are all lying about having a religious objection. They’re all helping each other fill out the religious exemption form, discussing how to make it appear like they aren’t lying. They’re claiming to have a religious view that prohibits the COVID vaccine only, not all the other vaccines that they willingly accepted. The hospital is gladly going along with them, and is guaranteeing nobody will have to get it, even without a good reason.
DC: So it sounds as if, what you’re saying is true, that it’s relatively easy for those who refuse to be vaccinated to work around the state mandates by claiming a religious exemption. What’s their main objection to the vaccine? Would you characterize them as anti-vaxxers?
RN: These people aren’t anti-vaxxers, or at least they weren’t until this vaccine came out. They’ve mostly received every other vaccine, including the flu shot every year. In fact, nurses are mandated to get almost a dozen vaccines just to get into nursing school. Apparently, being required to get all those vaccines wasn’t a “violation of their rights” but the COVID vaccine mandate is.
https://anewscafe.com/2021/08/25/redding/redding-nurse-frustrated-by-unvaccinated-colleagues-wholl-lie-to-get-around-state-mandates/
Good write up Kym, grim news, but thank you.
Probably time to ban the religious exemption. Can’t wait to see the fallout from that. Dangerous times ahead.
Freedom of religion is firmly established by our constitution.
Yes, but the path our society is on will kick the bill of rights to the curb.
Thank you for that input. That’s a thought provoking article.
You should get an award Kym. This is tough stuff and you are doing an amazing job of presenting it to the public. Huge gratitude… such powerful and important work. Thank you!
Yes bravo!
Ryan Hutson did the work. I was just the editor.
A couple of studies came out earlier this year, one from MIT and another from Carnegie Mellon, examining vaccine hesitancy. The general conclusion was that vaccine hesitancy is ‘Highly Informed, Scientifically Literate,’ and ‘Sophisticated’. Apparently, the condesending dismissal of those with objections as a bunch of low-brow drooling Trumpists is just not accurate.
An intelligent report about why some staff don’t want the shot might be insightful.
This interview missed the mark.
would you still say that if YOU were the one going to the ER for emergency care for an appendectomy or accident and having to wait until the next day?
This is the problem all along. The entire heal care system was fragile before covid. Now it is worse. I guess the people not getting vaccinated didn’t see NYC, LA, Italy, France turning away non covid emergencies. Nor did they see the photos of dead people in the streets and mass graves in South America.
We have free vaccines. Other countries wish the had them.
Not exactly. Anti vaxxer filters are in full operation on that interpretation. The anti vaxxers were not called intelligent. Just really good at cherry picking their own propaganda to look scientific. This was a study on why science as typically presented didn’t impress anti vaxxers. Turned out they could generate grafts and tables just as well as most scientists even if the contents were nonsenical. It’s just that anti vaxxers could look good and their followers were incapable of seeing the lack of logic and rigor in doing it. Their conclusion “But the authors seem to think the ultimate problem is skeptics deftly using data to mislead social media users. “Well-calibrated, well-funded systems of coordinated disinformation can be particularly dangerous when they are designed to appeal to skeptical people,” they noted. “
Have you ever met a college-educated anti-vaxxer? That’s why this claim is so laughable.
In fact, it is precisely the people most insecure about their intelligence that turn to antivaxx propaganda and other conspiracies because they are trying to overcompensate for this deep insecurity about their intelligence and the true irrelevance of their positions on any given subject.
Just look at this risible claim that vaccination mandates will lead to losses in fundamental freedoms (See Hayforker above). Anyone making such a lazy, desperate claim would be laughed at in a college classroom.
The antixaxxers only keep promoting their nonsense on sites like this because they *don’t* have any contact with the intelligent (as found at college campuses), who would easily poke holes in their absurd claims, non-existent evidence, and missing logic.
“The association between hesitancy and education level follows a U-shaped curve with the highest hesitancy among those least and most educated. People with a master’s degree had the least hesitancy, and the highest hesitancy was among those holding a Ph.D. What’s more, the paper found that in the first five months of 2021, the largest decrease in hesitancy was among the least educated — those with a high school education or less. Meanwhile, hesitancy held constant in the most educated group; by May, those with Ph.Ds were the most hesitant group. So not only are the most educated people most sceptical of taking the Covid vaccine, they are also the least likely the change their minds about it… ” https://unherd.com/thepost/the-most-vaccine-hesitant-education-group-of-all-phds/ The actual paper is linked in the article.
Thanks Kym. That was my point. I know a bunch of tech workers in Bay Area. Super smart and they don’t do vaccines at all. Not sure how many have PhDs, but lots of master degrees for sure.
Thank you for this, Kym. I assure you I’ll set aside time to read this. As someone with a doctorate, Im curious to read this.
But I’m also going to point out something right at the start, in this study’s own terminology: the people I’m targeting in my comment, the usual suspects that lurk in your comment boards, are not “vaccine hesitant.” They are the unmovable fringe group militantly opposed to being vaccinated. They are people who will not budge because their emotive, conspiratorial worldview, which is rooted in deep-seated insecurity. They simply do not know what they do not know, and their absurd beliefs are sometimes a defense-mechanism against their inability to control things. To me, “vaccine-hesitant” means open to reasonable persuasion, over time, and does not describe the militant commenters we see here daily.
But I’ll see if this initial observation matters after I read this.
The part I quoted said that the PHD’s were the most hesitant. I’d be curious to know what degree fields–liberal arts, science, etc their PHDs were in.
“Have you ever met a college-educated anti-vaxxer? That’s why this claim is so laughable.”
Wow that is not a open minded position. Sure not anti-vaccine hesitant. As hesitant would suggest you are open to change.
I went to enough school to know that the more you go the further your view of the world narrows. I see a lot with doctorates and post docs. The increased specialization creates this issue.
You see there is this mythical group of super smart tech workers in the Bay Area who have some of the lowest vaccinations rates in the nation and especially based on income levels. Of course I made that up because you don’t like what I say and you have a doctorate. Oh boy!
Let me guess, my tax money will be used to repay the student loans you accrued in that elitist college classroom that you aren’t willing or able to repay with the job you didn’t get as a result of your (mis)education.
It’s not just mandates, but that’s where we are right now. The trajectory we are on involves far more than this form of coercion.
You can’t see it now, okay, but the verbal attacks and harassment of people leads to far far darker days than the pandemic alone could ever muster.
Maybe take a look at what happens when large swaths of a population look to find a scape goat for their collective problems. Being lied to and then not having the courage to admit it can turbo charge this over heated situation.
Fyi: it’s well known in the Bay Area tech community that vaccines should be avoided. These people make high incomes and are super smart. I guess they will be on the shaming list soon too.
While the group of people most opposed to vaccination is disproportionately white, rural, evangelical Christian and politically conservative, there is also a group who are choosing to wait and see before making a decision. This second group is disproportionately urban, young, Black and Latino and Democrats.
This interview is so obviously staged, and is rife with two bit hearsay. Gimme a break.
It is an “interview” obviously penned by a Godless sot with no awareness of the protections guaranteed by the United States Constitution.
Anyone that would come after someone’s religious beliefs, whatever they may be, is a braindead loser.
Talk about lack of respect for others!
It is a bit over the top, but so is this whole situation.
I think there is a legal problem as well, Seth.
EUA does not allow for employers to intimidate employees into getting the jab.
It’s still a choice. Legally… A religious exemption is not really needed. Might be cheaper than a lawyer though.
“Under the EUA, it is your choice to receive or not receive the vaccine. Should you decide not to receive it, it will not change your standard medical care.” ~fda
Exactly Izzy.
Health care workers can get vaccinated or find an occupation in another industry – their choice.
Ok then no complaints about full ICU capacity.
If someone’s religious objections keep them from fulfilling the requirements for doing a job safely, it’s time for them to get a different job.
I think that article reads like bs. The questions are so leading and the answers so contrived that it seems unbelievable. If taken at face value my first question would be why are so many people who are well educated, at least enough to be nurses hired by a hospital, refusing to get the vaccine? Admittedly not antivaxxers but not wanting this one. What do they know that we don’t? And how is it that some of the nurses at st Joe’s think that people who don’t covid vaccinate are monsters and the unvaccinated are causing early retirement at one hospital, while the unvaccinated staff in Redding are the reason why this anonymous person is considering leaving their job. Maybe St Joe’s should recruit nurses from Redding to help with staffing shortages
Your “personal” choice to not get vaxxed has wide ranging implications.
Nurses, doctors, and hospital staff are being pushed to the brink.
A loved is in a car crash, and is rushed to the hospital where there are no ICU beds left.
One of our immune-comprised citizens cannot get the vaccine and is exposed to the virus while out grocery shopping and ends up deathly sick.
For heaven’s sake, George Washington mandated the smallpox vaccine for anyone serving in the Continental Army. Vaccine mandates literally played a role in securing America’s freedom and good health during the American revolution!!
George Washington would be considered terrorists today. Maybe not the best example. I think he owned slaves too! Super bad!
One man’s terrorist is another’s freedom fighter.
He promoted small pox inoculation to save the revolution. A far riskier order than vaccination.
Military is a different context than civilian as well. The soldiers make different commitments and face different risks
Who are “they”?
Main difference between those vaccines of yesteryear and Covid vaccines? Those were tested for years! Not nine months like this “vaccine”. It was a rushed job and the consequences are still tbd. The first signs of any variant was in December 2020 if I’m not mistaken, so the vaccine y’all got was already behind the mark.
Pfizer’s phase three trial was completed in November 2020. Phase 4 can run after a vaccine is released for general use. The reason this happened so fast was because it was urgent and a huge amount of money and resources were thrown into it. Much more than doing most trials. And the fact that the first ones were engineered to be targeted because there was now existing the technology and protocols to safely do it is what made it possible.
Yes, it is important to learn the specifics of what allowed these vaccines to be developed so quickly before concluding that the vaccines are more dangerous than COVID. Here’s one article about the process: https://www.healthline.com/health-news/heres-how-it-was-possible-to-develop-covid-19-vaccines-so-quickly
That is what they announced in a press release.
According to their submissions to clinicaltrials.gov, the expected completion date is May 2, 2023.
I keep making this point and the answer is they don’t trust it. So, they read 1000s of pages of medical journals to come to this conclusion? No. Just FB
Shouldn’t your name read: anti-anti-vaxxer?
The double x looks way cooler
Yes, many children are not vaccinated against those things, at least 12% of Humboldt kindergarteners are not vaccinated against all of those things
Blessings to the health care workers. I don’t think this is the last wave. The word Freedom should be spelled Freedumb!
If there is such a health worker shortage, why does it make sense to fire the ones who don’t want to take a still experimental treatment.
( Just because the FDA rubber-stamped it does not make it any less experimental)
They have not completed phase 3 trials which were originally set to be finished by 2024.
Because they just hired 28 greenhorns fresh out of CR probably for a song.
Time to get rid of the spendier ones.
This way is semi legit.
I wonder how it’s working out for patient care
Seems obvious.
Why? First are there any who have been fired here? I haven’t heard of any. Second it is not longer “experimental.” And third, when they get sick, they get sicker than they would have had they been vaccinate and would be useless anyway.
We wouldn’t allow Typhoid Mary in our hospitals either.
I dislike the Providence St. Joes beast as much as the next cog, HOWEVER, they are just trying to do the best that they can with the crap hand they have been dealt. If everyone is worrying about the plans and the administration has to spend time and effort to appease all ya’ll then they cannot focus on THE PATIENTS.
Hospital full of covid patients no rooms available.. let’s open schools up and send kids who can’t yet get vaccinated back to in person.. let’s have fairs where we say we have strict policies but then post tons of pictures of our patrons crammed together and not wearing masks. Then there are people who won’t take a vaccine to help avoid getting anyone else sick. Are we really surprised our hospital is full?
If this was such a crisis why the decidedly unscientific approach? Air travel, dining indoors, etc…
Could it be that people aren’t really ready to take the steps needed? And I’m not talking about vaccinations. The real sacrifices that will actually reduce transmission.
I just don’t think everyone is being honest and instead we get lots of half measures, backtracking and now infighting. This ain’t going well and the ICU is just a symptom.
Exactly. People need to stop traveling, going to the bowling alley etc.
50% of Americans are ignorant, selfish and just plain old assholes. Darwin awards for them. Although with covid, their stupidity keeps children with cancer untreated.
Yes. It is true it is hard to do what China or Australia did. In fact impossible in the US. Which is why all there is is vaccination. But when there are those who refuse to do anything at all and spend their time punch holes in the one boar there is… Well here we are.
Really why is it not possible? Why is it impossible? Please elaborate…
15 ICU beds in a county of 130,000. seems a little low, especially a year and a half into pandemic. Pretty sure they got lots of money to handle this already.
It would be interesting if a journalist would asked about what kind of therapeutic treatments are being used
Good question, Questions.
To be fair, they have 23 icu beds..
St. Joe’s and public health studied how to expand beds to meet a covid crisis. They just didn’t think they would need to do a year and a half after the pandemic started. This whole article is about that very thing AND HOW THE NEED COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED.
In Santa Cruz county, population 250,000. We only have 20 ICU beds. So for a community of 130,000 having 15 ICU beds seems reasonable.
How many un-used ICU beds do you recommend for Humboldt county? Say if each ICU bed (and equipment and staff) costs million dollars per year, are you willing to pay for ICU beds only used in a Pandemic?
Sounds like the “unvaccinated Monsters” comment probably came from someone who has been working too many hours days on end and is tired and desperate. Give the caretaker some credit and understand that their life has been disrupted and they keep going to work, leaving their family behind to take care of people who chose to not be vaccinated. I see their point exactly, they are tired, they need a break. Take 10 minutes out of your self important life, get the vaccine and move on.
I think the quote was included to sensationalize the article. It was at the top not buried deep in a long through piece.
Maybe I’m wrong but sure seems to be the result. Just further fanning the flames. Obviously the quote didn’t have to be there and it’s not even attributed to a specific individual.
However if the quote is real and not taken out of context it does reveal a state of mind that’s terrible news.
It is there to show the absolute exhaustion of those who are giving so much. I don’t think it reflects their actual behavior on the ground but to ignore the morale of medical workers during a pandemic is not responsible.
Spelling morale 💕 moral is
a little bit irresponsible too. Now what? No bed? 😆 Luv you Kym!
Ok I still think it sensationalizes the story. Worked some how…look at all the comments.
Here’s my problem with the quote. It’s providing the justification for certain readers who will use it to further their demands for increasing pressure (or whatever’s you want to call it) on those don’t get vaccinated.
The target may shift at some point but the rhetoric is too hot. Some of the most dangerous language I’ve ever heard directed at our fellow citizens. No joke this is super serious.
So…do you only want me to quote those against the vaccine? Or should I only quote those who speak with unicorns and puppy dogs falling out of their mouths?
Or maybe my job is to tell it like it is? and for other people to realize that we’ve quoted multiple medical staff in the last week saying they are so frustrated with non vaccinated people that they want to allow them to suffer the consequences of their actions?
I promise you, if I was doing a story on fat people overwhelming the hospital with their illnesses and a nurse called fat people monsters, I would quote that, too. Our job is to shine a light on what people are saying.
I want to make it clear that I don’t agree with what was said but I think that because of those quotes there’s a number of readers who are starting to realize just how stressed and overwhelmed many medical staff are.
To be clear…it isn’t dangerous that we quoted those frustrated medical staff…it’s dangerous that they are facing such stressful situations that they are throwing caution and compassion to the wind and saying that stuff.
So, in short, if you don’t want to know that dynamite is about to blow, you probably shouldn’t read the news because it is our job to show you the lit fuse.
The article was a long and through piece with red meat served up front.
I’m not saying the quote should not have been printed. I’m fact it’s does have substantial value. Just look at the responses.
I would just say that those who hold important positions/jobs need to watch what they say very carefully. Especially when talking to a reporter…uh, I think I’ll shut up now.
Actually, I prefer knowing the truth about how hostile the people are that are supposed to care for the public.
All of the public, not just the people they agree with.
If they think this is stressful, just think of the medical personnel working in Afghanistan. My understanding is in war zones they try to patch up everyone, not just the people they like, at great risk to their own safety.
They are true heroes.
There is a big difference between a health care professional and a healer.
These medical staff do “patch up everyone, not just the people they like, at great risk to their own safety.” That’s why they are so frustrated with the those who won’t get vaccinated. They are literally risking their lives and the lives of their families who are exposed to them because of folks who end up in the hospital still fearful of the vaccine that could have prevented them ending up there in the first place.
My family members who joined the military expected periods of time where people would be dying all around them. Military deployments last up to 13 months with beginning and end dates. My family members who became non-military medical providers were not trained to go months on end without the resources necessary to save the majority of their patients.
Well on average almost twice as many people die from obesity each day then covid…
Not that I don’t think obesity isn’t a huge problem in our country but…literally in the last year more people died of COVID than of obesity.
“The provisional leading cause-of-death rankings for 2020 indicate that COVID-19 was the third leading cause of death in the US behind heart disease and cancer.” https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778234
That said, let’s work on helping people be healthy in all ways. I’ve lost weight and exercised 8 out of 10 days this month. Have you signed up for the vaccine?
Obesity does contribute to heart disease and cancer.
Aside from a poorly chosen word, unvaccinated should quarantine at home unless they have a recent negative test result. This isn’t a vaccine mandate, it’s a choice to get vaccinated or stay at home to protect society.
No.
H L Mencken,
“The Jews could be put down very plausibly as the most unpleasant race ever heard of. As commonly encountered, they lack many of the qualities that mark the civilized man: courage, dignity, incorruptibility, ease, confidence. They have vanity without pride, voluptuousness without taste, and learning without wisdom. Their fortitude, such as it is, is wasted upon puerile objects, and their charity is mainly a form of display.”
Of blacks, he wrote in September 1943, ″… it is impossible to talk anything resembling discretion or judgment to a colored woman. They are all essentially child-like, and even hard experience does not teach them anything.″
He was also pro Nazi
Interesting guy to quote you have there, Rover
“No” meaning you’re unwilling to help protect your friends, family, and broader society?
This is the first sensible comment for a “non-vaxer” in all the noise.
And it is noise.
Calling me a “monster” or anyone only affirms your lack of human understanding.
What’s your excuses for being alive? Judges and Juries run in your tribe?
Not all of us are cave dwelling troglodytes.
Hard to tell in HumDum without a score card.
I have two medical conditions that say not to do this.
Independent study instead of baroom BS tells me to stay away from all of you.
And I do.
For you and for me. Good luck with that in Fortuna!
I warned people about this mess in Jan. of 2020.
Seriously, the response out of Ferndale was…
“Oh wow man!” “You mean Harry Potter isn’t a real person?”
But hard as I have tried, I have had (2) bouts, now currently with Delta.
Both mild so far. (Thank the stars!)
But until I can put lots of miles between me and this horror, all we can all do is tough it out.
So next time you want to blame someone for all of this folks, go to the source and learn that there are evil people that started this mess.
Start in China, take a left at Afghanistan, and see who are the bad guys still streaming across open borders.
And who is allowing it.
Suckers! :0(
Screw PC and politics.
They taste lousy as left-overs.
It’s like lighting fires in the backcountry of current fires and screaming, “firefighting doesn’t work”.
You do realize that the usfs just recently acknowledged that its last 100 years of fire fighting strategy was a failure and has finally decided to change course, right?
That probably wasn’t the best analogy to prove your point
Providence St. Joseph Health is a deeply corrupt and money-obsessed Catholic organization. A few years ago, I was hired by their Eureka hospital with a princely salary of $112,000 per year. Why? To work with the Adminsitration (all have departed by now) to help them make the hospital work better. After about 4 months, it was crystal clear to me that the executives were all talk, no action, and simple opportunists. Oh, the stories I could tell about that place. I left and consider doing so among the best of career decisions.
Bottom line: The people of the North Coast, after all these years, still have what the California Department of Healthcare Services publicly deems as a hospital near the bottom in the state for quality of care and safety. As always, North Coast peeps pay with their lives.
But remember, the organization is Catholic.
As opposed to Mad River? Want to rely on them?
Good point auntie, our local health care infrastructure is absolute garbage. Is that the fault of “anti-vaxxers ” also?
No but they will be blamed.
Not the fault of. But a commonality with. Fueled by the same ideology- self centered, angry, distrustful, ungrateful, oblivious, instinctively resistent, unwilling to cooperate but very willing to find fault.
What would make a better health care system? For a start an environment that is not so very full of drugs hard and soft that everything revolves around it. Just so that people involved in a demanding field like medicine would not run away as fast as they can. And that enough people can work productively to pay for the burden of those who don’t.
Fueled by the same ideology- self centered, angry, distrustful, ungrateful, oblivious, instinctively resistent, unwilling to cooperate but very willing to find fault.
Brilliant
Wait, who are the “anti-vaxxers ” again auntie? I’m not sure I’ve ever gotten an actual answer out of you, and this comment is a perfect example of why its needed. Now you’re saying that the anti-vaxxers have the same philosophy as the bureaucrats behind our piss poor health care system?
Plus, the way you describe this philosophy (self centered, angry, distrustful, ungrateful, oblivious, instinctively resistent, unwilling to cooperate but very willing to find fault) sounds a lot like you on a bad day.
So please, fill me in, who are these “anti-vaxxers ” that get you hackles up so seriously?
You missed the point:
As long as locals put up with the sleaze and exploitation that the local health care industry, physicians, and other self-interested parties put forth, all will remain the same.
Change for the better is completely possible but to get it, locals would have to commit to actually getting involved, staying involved, and not merely stay silent or complain.
Providence St. Joseph Health and Mad River prefer silence and/or complaining: It keeps the status quo comfortably in place.
Important: don’t get in a car wreck right now, or have a heart attack, stroke, severe broken bone, etc. The hospital will have a hard time dealing with you.
Also, hope we don’t have a major earthquake right now while the hospital is full.
Worse, the Four Horseman.
Hahaha
Yes. With road closures due to fire…we would be up shits creek
The fair will be over this weekend. Let’s see how the county’s decision to let it happen turns out.
Several other group gropes were cancelled but not our fair!
Is group gropes some Trump supported event? It would explain the tic-tac shortage up until recently.
Some of us can’t get the vaccine due to health complications and are made to feel as though we won’t get the proper care because of the bias already created from the propaganda manipulation tactic called OTHERING. It’s a sad day when vaccinated people say the unvaccinated should die because of their choices. I haven’t heard any unvaccinated person say the vaccinated deserve to die or have the multitude of complications arising from the vaccine. We aren’t talking about a handful of conspiracy nuts. We are talking about a large group of people worldwide which include medical professionals. It is not some hairbrained, political charade. Rational, logical, critical thinking people are in opposition. Vaccine horror stories are being suppressed. This isn’t a showcase of people just being anti-vaccer’s. There is a much deeper issue at hand and the name calling and death wishes only perpetuate the problem. Get the jab! Get the jab! <—- what if you were one of the unlucky ones that developed guillian-barre, blood clots, chronic pain, cardiovascular complications, neurological disturbances, debilitating inflammatory response or even death. What then? Would you still be glad you got the injection? This isn’t so simple. Each side sees the other in the same light. It wasn’t that long ago that calling the virus man made was a conspiracy. Now look at the truth unveiled. Countless times truth was brushed aside only to be revealed later. Don’t be so quick to discount a belief system that doesn’t fit in the textbook ideology provided for you. Beware of falling victim to othering and find compassion for all. You could be next and you would want someone to care for your life regardless of what you believed.
Spreading misinformation is why anti vaxxers are so despised. What if you are one of the many more who bought into it and ended up with covid and “guillian-barre, blood clots, chronic pain, cardiovascular complications, neurological disturbances, debilitating inflammatory response or even death” from the disease anyway?
Nice comment compassion.
Second that. 👍
Most all of know the “Some of us can’t get the vaccine due to health complications”. If that’s the stand-alone case, you should have few worries, should not be so affected by general vax pressure as it clearly doesn’t apply to you. But when you go on with “Vaccine horror stories are being suppressed” your providing us an indication of something more, something belief-system oriented that shares the spotlight with online conspiracy misinfo.
Why do we accept being legally required to wear seat belts when less than 100 Americans die in car accidents each day, but not accept our rights to being infringed upon with a vaccination requirement when over 1000 Americans a day (for the past 3 days) have died from COVID?
Are there rare instances of people dying or becoming disabled due to vaccination? Yes.
Are there rare instances where wearing a seat belt results in injury or death? Yes.
In most instances, are you less likely to die or become disabled by COVID if you are vaccinated? Yes.
In most instances, are you less likely to become disabled or die if you are wearing a seat belt? Yes.
The unvaccinated should be denied treatment before vaccinated people have to suffer from triage measures. It’s only fair.
I don’t understand people who are offended by the “unvaccinated monsters” comment. These people are indeed monsters, and are causing suffering for many people beyond their own selfish selves.
if the vaccine worked like a vaccine the vaccinated shouldn’t meed treatment.
You’d think.
Oh keep your bigotry to yourself. Kym, does this sort of baiting meet the rules for deleting? Even an anti vaxx troll is less revolting.
Oh no, hope your bunker is well stocks.
More 4/Chan paranoia. Congrats
Numbers from Humboldt County covid dashboard.
Since beginning of pandemic 6855 total positive tests 5% of population
Total of 316 people admitted to hospital .23% of population
65 deaths reportedly caused by covid
.o47% of population
People age 70 and up account for 60% of positive cases 67% of overall deaths and 54% of overall hospitalizations even though they have over a 80% vaccinated rate.
And would have accounted for many more deaths without vaccination. Another way of putting it is that people under seventy account for 33% of overall deaths and are increasing their share every day. The rate for unvaccinated versus vaccinated hospitalizations is almost 4 times that of vaccinated despite most vulnerable being among the most vaccinated.
And that doesn’t include those who are affected by being squeezed out in hospital space.
Are you saying that people age 70 and up account for 67 percent of the COVID deaths that have occurred since vaccinations began? or does that 67 percent include deaths that occurred before the vaccines were available?
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Why would the vaccinated need to be treated in the local hospital with Covid?
There haven’t been any vaccinated in the hospital with covid in the past few weeks, have there?
They might break a leg? You know as vaccinated people do. No, AA. No one said there were no vaccinated sick with covid. Just less of them. Why are there so many more unvaccinated being treated? What with their natural immunity and all.
What is the protocol for early intervention if someone has tested positive for COVID? Whether they are vaccinated or not? Florida is using regeneron which was given to all the states by the feds! It is cleared for emergency use and has had great success in keeping people out of the hospital. It would be nice if CA would do what Florida is doing which is to set up triage centers where regeneron is readily available. It seems like the plan here is a wait and see approach after a COVID diagnosis which is not working. Public health should take the lead, like in other states and counties and be proactive instead of just telling everyone to get the vaccine as we know that there are many break through infections now! This would help ease the overcrowded conditions and the stress on the staff. St. Joes is always filled to capacity and staff always overwhelmed so I have no idea why no one is talking about therapies that if administered early will help keep people home. I have heard nothing about this issue and Hoffman has never addressed it.
At first I couldn’t believe that there would be such things. But apparently there are. ““Everyone please be careful—whether you are vaccinated or not. My husband (vaccinated, but positive) has been waiting 2+ hours for monoclonal therapy and he says he has never seen people so sick. Moaning, crying, unable to move,” Lopez’s wife, Suzanne said in the post on Reddit” https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/moaning-crying-unable-to-move-viral-photo-shows-covid-19-patients-lying-on-floor-waiting-for-antibody-treatment-in-florida/
How human to think they have immunity from covid until they get sick enough to get scared then want a treatment that requires an IV drip for an hour. Oh well. That’s not a surprise after all but what a waste.
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I have read very positive things about the effectiveness of these treatments from people who received them. They aren’t widely offered because they must be administered by IV which requires staffing (an expense that administrators are rewarded for reducing and looked down upon for increasing). Add to this the American tendency to be reactive, not proactive – Why would we allocate resources to treat someone until their symptoms are bad enough to require treatment? After vaccines became widely available, the focus should have moved to these treatments as they are the second best medical option to preventing ICUs from being overwhelmed.
About vaccine mandates: No one is proposing to make it illegal to not get vaccinated. But, if you walk around naked you’ll probably get arrested. If you feel free, and go to work naked, you’ll most likely get fired. Everyone is infinitely more free to refuse a vaccine than to go naked, that’s true even if going naked is your sincere religious belief. I say, “give me nakedness or give me death!” The Freedom From Clothing Movement is just getting started. Who’s with me? Let your Freedom hang out for all to see and admire. Love your Freedom!
About vaccine mandates: Currently no one is proposing to make it illegal to not get vaccinated. But if you walk around naked you’ll probably get arrested. If you decide to go to work naked, you’ll most likely get fired. Everyone is infinitely more free to refuse a vaccine than to go naked, even if going naked is your sincere held religious belief. I say, “give me nakedness or give me death!” The Freedom From Clothing Movement is just getting started. Show your freedom for all to see and admire. Love your freedom. Who’s with me?
One of the reasons the staffing in the hospital is low, is do to the mandates.
What mandates? Vaccination mandates? Because by the Governors’s order there is the alternative of weekly testing if they really object and it’s not just posturing.
I’m still searching for helpful answers to this problem and the best I can think to do is offer any support possible for the hospital staff. Just letting them know that they are being “Seeing” by our community is a great step in the right direction!
This is likely the worst problem that any nurse currently working has ever seen, hopefully ever will see. Any offering of support is a step in the right direction.
I’m in need of suggestions as well, do you have any?
Well there’s no actual thought process from any of these people. The hospitals wouldn’t be facing Staffing shortages if they didn’t fire everyone because of their belief system.
Who’s been fired for what belief?
150 Health Care Workers at Houston Methodist…..just one example.
Hospitals were insufficiently staffed before the pandemic even began. Far more staff have and will quit because they are burnt out from caring for COVID patients than will quit to avoid getting the vaccine.
It’s all a mess! From the beginning of Covid19 we were told stay six fee away from each other wear a mask wash your hands, we were told our health care system was not strong enough to handle the crisis because everyday crises were enough are ready, Car accidents, heart attacks, gunshot wounds, etc. That was to protect us and that was to protect the healthcare system it was to protect the nurses and doctors the educated they are trained they give their lives to serve others. And then came the conspiracy theories…
Something to at least consider… unherd.com/thepost/bombshell-study-finds-natural-immunity-superior-to-vaccination/
Are you suggesting that spreading COVID around will save more lives than vaccinations?
I laugh when I read how the anti-vax crowd feel somehow persecuted. Yeah, a low % of the vaccinated come on real heavy, saying dumb things like such and such deserves to get the virus, etc. But can’t hold a candle to the anti-vax shit-talkers torching flame. Look, overall most of they anti-vax are Trump supporters and we all know Trump is THE proven shit-talker the world over, mocking people to no end. Y’all who are maga, you know this. So don’t be surprised, and take some responsibility, when after months and months of you bucking covid-safety-measures people get ultra fed up with your clinging to conspiracy and other BS that contributes to a health crises. It does. It has. And most of you are scared of a med that Billions of people the world over are dying to get. Those billions aren’t going “oh, but the big corporations are so …”.
So stop behaving like a privileged baby, using right of free speech to talk BS, something that helps sway the young and ignorant.. Unless you’re looking near 70 or so, you’re not a hippy. And we know you’re not a bonafide freedom fighter (I haven’t met a WWII vet out and about in a little while now). So use your government approved phone to find a gov-backed vax clinic, climb in your government approved vehicle, bring your government provided ID. So easy even Trinity County can do it, sheesh.
I know its bad news when Humboldt is compared to those mountain hicks in Trinity County!
And the Trinity County folk R some of my favorite peeps. And love that place, those forests, mountains, rivers.
My family members who joined the military expected periods of time where people would be dying all around them. Military deployments last up to 13 months with beginning and end dates. My family members who became non-military medical providers were not trained to go months on end without the resources necessary to save the majority of their patients.
SIX NEW DEATHS TODAY!!!!! People please get your vaccine shots or they might be adding your name to the DEATH LIST!!!
For everyone who believes that medical professionals should be able to pick and choose who they help based off of that individual’s decision. I have a question for you to think about, would you condone a doctor refusing to help someone who had unprotected sex and now has AIDS, would you condone a doctor who refuses to perform life-saving measures on someone who decided to drink and drive, what about all the EMTs, firefighters and police officers that constantly have to give people narcan to get them out of an overdose. You don’t have a right to pick and choose. The only picking and choosing you can do is picking a different profession or choosing to walk away. And I’m not saying walk away from the patient I’m saying walk away from the profession. We can’t demonize people for getting a virus everyone’s going to contract eventually, vaccinated or unvaccinated.
Food for thought.
Just tell the local folks that it is crystal methamphetamine rather than a covid vax and they will line up to get it.