Number of COVID Cases Today Breaks Record for Single Day Set Just Five Days Ago; Universal Masking Required Starting Saturday
Woman in mask. [Can Stock Photo]
Eighty-two new cases of COVID-19 have been confirmed in Humboldt County today, the highest single-day count in the county and far exceeding the average daily cases at the height of the pandemic in January. The total number of county residents who have tested positive for the virus now stands at 5,351.
Humboldt County Health Officer Dr. Ian Hoffman will issue a Universal Masking Order to take effect at 12:01 a.m., Saturday, Aug. 7, for all people age two and older regardless of vaccination status.
Under the terms of the order, masking will be required in:
- All indoor public spaces
- Outdoor spaces that are crowded or where people cannot maintain physical distance of six feet or more
- Outdoor public events.
Additionally, masking is recommended but not required in private settings.
Health officials noted today that hospital capacity is nearing its limit in the community, while Humboldt County vaccination rates remain below the statewide average of 63.1%. As of this week, 50.6% of the total county population is fully vaccinated and another 5.9% is partially vaccinated.
Dr. Hoffman said he hoped the universal masking order would reduce hospitalization and case rates and prevent lockdown and closure of businesses and schools. He said the order is made necessary by hospitalization levels, vaccination rates, case rates and the presence of variants and will be reconsidered on an ongoing basis and continuously reevaluated based on these factors.
“We understand the impact this past 18 months has had on all of us,” the doctor said. “We are all exhausted by the pandemic, but our work is not done. We have to work together as a community to bring the spread of COVID-19 under control.”
Dr. Roberta Luskin-Hawk, Chief Executive of St. Joseph Health, Humboldt County commented on the impact of COVID-19 hospitalizations and death in the local community. “People have gotten numb with numbers, but it’s real people. It could be your neighbor,” she said. “The death of someone who is unvaccinated is needless. It’s a tragedy for that person and for the people who love them, but it also has a devastating effect on the health care team because they feel like it didn’t have to happen.”
Eligible residents are urged to get vaccinated as soon as possible. All available vaccines are effective at preventing serious outcomes from COVID-19. Vaccine is available by appointment and to walk-ins at Public Health vaccination clinics located throughout the county, and most local pharmacies also offer COVID-19 vaccines. See the Public Health clinic schedule for the next seven days below, and sign up in advance at MyTurn.ca.gov.
Eureka – Thursday, Aug. 5, from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m.
College of the Redwoods Gym (7351 Tompkins Hill Road)
Pfizer/ModernaMcKinleyville – Friday, Aug. 6, from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m.
Six Rivers Brewery (1300 Central Ave.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson
*$5 voucher toward food and drink for those who get vaccinated at this clinic.McKinleyville – Friday, Aug. 6, from 3 to 6 p.m.
Ace Hardware (2725 Central Ave.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson
*$25 gift card from Ace for those who get vaccinated at this clinic.Eureka – Saturday, Aug. 7, from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m.
North Coast Stand Down (Veterans Memorial Building, 1018 H St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & JohnsonBlue Lake – Sunday, Aug. 8, from 11 a.m. to 1:30 p.m.
Blue Lake Resource Center (111 Greenwood Ave.)
Pfizer/Johnson & JohnsonEureka – Tuesday, Aug. 10, from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m.
Eureka Boat Launch (1701 Waterfront Drive under the Hwy. 255 overpass)
Pfizer/Johnson & JohnsonThe Pfizer vaccine is approved for children as young as 12 years old. Minors must be accompanied by a parent or guardian. The Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines are authorized for those 18 and older. Full protection from the vaccine is achieved two weeks after receiving the second dose of a two-dose series or two weeks after receiving a single-dose vaccine.
To check availability of vaccines at local pharmacies, visit vaccines.gov or text a ZIP code to 438829 to find a participating pharmacy nearby. Most pharmacies allow walk-ins.
View the Humboldt County Data Dashboard online at humboldtgov.org/dashboard, or go to humboldtgov.org/DashboardArchives to download today’s data.
For facial covering recommendations and mandates, go to cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/guidance-for-face-coverings.aspx.
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Yay! Universal Masking! Let’s all go fire up those diesels & have another silly Trump parade.
Hilarious!
I wonder why the CEO of Pfizer hasn’t got the shot yet. Maybe waiting his turn ☺️😉
Don’t you wonder whether that report is true? Or do you just believe anything that fits you anti-vax narrative?
The truth that nobody seems to want to hear is that Covid has never been proven to be a virus and there are cases now that have gone before judges and the defendants have proven in a court of law that Covid DOES NOT EXIST. Case file of Patrick King in Alberta Canada went before a judge and proved Covid has never been isolated as a virus and so therefor does not exist people. Sorry for your fear porn and bowing down and giving into tyranny but what does exist now is spiked proteins due to being injected with a bioweapon. I have stated this many times and Kym refuses to print it for whatever reason. Here is the case and proof.
rumble.com/vkorz0-freedom-fighter-court-victory-ends-masking-shots-quarantine-in-alberta.html
Here is another case and proof in Ireland as well.
eutimes.net/2021/04/breaking-irish-government-admits-covid-19-is-a-fake-hoax-scam-which-does-not-even-exist/
I have joined a world wide lawsuit to stop this whole fiasco and you can too. Here is the link to be on the world wide class action lawsuit.
brighteon.com/7af54f8a-d3d1-433c-aa17-8bea61e2f619
Hopefully Kym will allow people the right to see the truth. Godspeed and good luck everyone.
Seek help now. Really.
Do something real with your life son.
Fuck you for spreading these bullshit lies and Kym for allowing it. You nut jobs need to stop, people are dying.
If the past year and a half is taught me one thing it’s that our “community” is full of assholes like you who revel in the pain and suffering of others. Fuck off.
Oh boy, you have lost it. Hahah all too easy. And it’s Kym’s fault. Hahaha like anyone makes their health decisions based on RHBB! I really like the site and all Kym offers but you’re either a troll or a big baby.
The case in Alberta seems to be being massively misportrayed. From a little poking around it appears that people are assuming the governments claim that the chief health officer has “no material evidence” relevant to the case (seems like a person being charged for attending an “illegal gathering “) meant the health officer has no material evidence about the sars-cov-2 virus. I think they just meant she had no evidence material to whether or not dude was at the gathering.
Also, just looking at the alberta gov website, lots of restrictions were lifted on July 1st. Masking on public transit is planned to be lifted August 16
Wow, great job guest. I researched the links and you are RIGHT. It was proven in Alberta that Covid does not exist. Yikes…..the ramifications are going to be earth shattering. Thanks for the truth.
You know, I looked up Patrick King in Alberta Canada. I’m on the 4th page of google and not one actual Alberta newspaper (online) has reported on it. All the sites are what I’ll politely call “alternative”. The Calgary Herald and the Edmonton Journal neither have anything about anyone named Patrick KIng. Or that Covid doesn’t exist.
Wouldn’t you think that news that big would be in the news? In Alberta (especially Alberta, the Texas of Canada), in Canada, in the US, in the world?
The only article I could find from today is this:
https://calgaryherald.com/pmn/news-pmn/canada-news-pmn/hajdu-pens-letter-to-alberta-asks-for-science-behind-plan-to-lift-covid-rules/wcm/9d557ac3-c022-4c6c-b75f-668c591e1736
Stop reading quack sites.
Google suppresses information, thats what the lawsuit is all about and both cases are real. Go research them on duckduckgo and they all come up under videos. The lawsuit is real too. I looked into it. Wow, I don’t know what to think now.
I will agree with one item here, and that is duckduckgo vs google. Depends on what I’m looking for. It’s no secret, Google admits they track and save your search info to help “predict” what you may be searching for (think: AI). Duckduckgo does neither, so they claim. If I want something unbiased (used loosely here) without skewing future searches, I’ll use duckduckgo. If I want my past searches to aid in a current search, I’ll use Google.
You are the problem!!!! Stop watching Fox News and spreading bullshit!
If it has been sequenced, it has been isolated. It exists. The modern world had its genome a year and a half ago. They are not “spiked proteins” they are the protein spike that accesses your cell through the ACEII receptor. Once your body learns to ID it, it destroys all of it. JFC you are trying to kill members of this community and you do not care how many. “Good luck” my ass.
🦰🥋, Kym, Is this guest an imposter?
I actually think this is a juvenile attempt to discredit me. So clever.
Note the use of the words
“Godspeed”, and “fiasco”.
I have been using those uncommonly used words.
He uses my material in order to pose as if he were me.
And includes quackery and buffoonery. Outrageous.
Please note, we are not one and the same. Especially ☕, 🦰🥋, and Angela Robinson.
If that is what is happening, it’s really twisted.
Demented, even.
I am surprised he is not using my signature emojis, 🤔🧐.
🤔🧐I am the genuine Guest.
Should I be flattered?
Imitation is supposed to be the highest form of flattery.
No thanks. But do take note.
Take note, that an unusually outspoken commenter is not present on this thread….
Take note of the MO to come up with workarounds to the rules to do something questionable, over and over.
Someone that cries constantly about people commenting under different names… and yet, hmm…
Someone is conspicuously absent on this thread…
This is the second time recently I have suspected
the behaviour.
But, mentioning it just makes me sound paranoid.
Posing as me, being extra foolish, as if he was,
the real Guest, instead of whoever he really is, in an attempt to discredit me, is infantile.
It seems as though the ruse has worked on some of you.
Not me. Of course I knew it was not me, and that it was meant to appear to be me.
Kym could confirm it, of only for herself, in order to realize the kind of commenter she is dealing with.
Combining the spouting of totally insincere, complete garbage, while impersonating another, while technically acceptable, could be recognized as signs of sick, twisted, desperate, immature, losers.
🤔🧐Yes,🦰🥋, I said losers.
I will try and make it a point to use my signature emojis
in my comments.😁
Let’s see if the stooping descends to a new low, and the signature emojis are also plagiarized.
🤔🧐I wonder if Kym, (🦰🥋) approves?🤔🧐
Do you like my new emoji combo?
Wait… Epiphany alert!!
🦰
🥋
That’s awesome!!
And that is my signature
material.
🤔🧐,Go ahead, flatter me, plagiarize it.😁😂🤣😂😁
Oh no, the red headed emoji changed when I posted it.
It’s not the same, not as cute,
What happened?
🦰
🥋, Kym,🤔🧐 Imposter “Guest”
@ 10:17 am has posted bullshit made up links.
It’s obvious as legitimate links turn red when posted.
He is sending everyone on bullshit wild goose chases
to satisfy some weird perversion to cause chaos
and upheaval.
He is impersonating me, and even if I switch from “Guest”, the smearing can continue.
Check out the reactions, they are directed towards who people think is me.
It’s not sincere.
It’s devious, and is intended to do harm,
To feverishly stir up those that would oppose your openness, to challenge it’s limits, the recurring theme, the ultimate goal.
You can see if what I say is true, unless it is a different url, and/or email.
But that would not be even necessary, as it doesn’t technically break the rules, except for the creating drama thing.
🤔🧐He sure pissed some people off.🧐🤔
It wasn’t me.
It was dirty.
🤔🧐
Thanks Angela Robinson, that’s a
relief.
He uses Godspeed at the bottom.
He likes to make things just obvious enough.
Have you noticed who is missing on this whole thread?
He is trying to put words in my mouth.
Trying to stir hatred, and steer it towards me.
It’s really strange.
Really strange.
I’m glad that you saw through it.
😁
Don’t worry, at least as far as I go.
There are a few Guests that post here. I didn’t think that was you at all.
Guest, whomever:
Huh. If by chance yer trying to refer to me, I am posting and replying under no other name. Sorry, however, that I take time away, that I don’t, uh, hover suspiciously.
Ahahaha, when is the bullshit gonna stop? You nut cases don’t even care how much you embarrass yourselves. Did you know that people can go on line and learn everything about the vaccine and how it works?
By the way, you’re not changing any minds or giving anyone vaccine remorse.
Your article is the bio weapon. It’s probably an article created in Russia in hopes that US citizens will not get vaccinated and die by the masses, are country’s fall by its failure to control the virus, destroying our economy and Russia’s rise to world power.
It’s so ironic that the anti-mask crowd is also the anti-vax crowd. If you anti-maskers would have gotten the vax we wouldn’t be masking again.
It is also kind of ironic that the anti industry, anti-corporation crowd is the pro forced vaccination crowd…
Not true, but nice attempt at shaming.
Sadly it’s needed…
I guess so huh
Please don’t give them anything to think about. Emotions run the comments not logic.
How can they tell it’s the delta if they can’t tell it apart from the common flu
How come you’re compelled to post absurdities?
The state runs monthly tests sequencing a sampling of positive results. It’s not clear to me if this is done with samples from each county or if it is just some mix of samples from throughout the state. Either way, there is no way for any individual to know if they are carrying any particular variant, it’s all just statistical. I do think that I saw that recent surveys of california results were something like 80%+ delta
Oops, just noticed i wrote monthly, I believe it is actually weekly.
This is a direct result of the actions of the selfish people who comment on this site and the owner who gives them a platform to spread their anti-vax conspiracies and hate.
You should all be ashamed, but sadly seem to have none.
It’s still a experimental drug thank you… But hey keep shaming folks for being cautious. As far as the owner of this site she just allows folks to express their views. Just like yours!
🕯🌳Will you still be saying that if it comes to another lockdown Pharmy?Or will you be on the bandwagon blaming the government for not getting you vaccinated?💉💉🧾
Or on the meat wagon, heading for the morgue.
Hopefully the normal people will not comply to another lockdown only the ones that want free shit. I sure as hell do not I need the government to take care of me
But perhaps the government needs to step in with the people who won’t take the least little care of everyone else around them?
Free shit has nothing to do with wanting to stop the spread, and you know, preventing more lockdowns.
Always with the “freedom” without wanting any of the responsibility. Always.
A recent poll showed that 83% of Americans support mask wearing, though in practice only 51% actually wear them. Still 51% is still a majority. So you might ask yourself who is “normal”.
The sneeze/spit guards at the local buffet are tyranny!
Here is a bit of philosophy for you Angela. Every civilization on this planet has eventually collapsed. At one point in a civilization the “normal” people are the ones that help it function. At certain inflection point in a civilizations history though, the “normal” people become the evil ones or disfunctional ones that cheer said civilization to its demise.
Case in point, the normal German citizens were the ones who championed Germany towards economic superiority but eventually those same normal Germans became the Nazis.
So maybe you should ask yourself if we are at a point in this country that normal still equates to good?
When you have paid taxes for over 50 years there is no such thing as “free shit.” I paid, and paid, and paid. It’s like insurance.
Exactly! I am truly shocked at most people’s attitudes.
I got vaccinated as soon as it was available, but that was MY choice. If I was much younger, or already had Covid, my decision may have been different. It is quite disappointing to see the amount of people that want the government to be able to override our freedoms for a disease that is statistically not all that dangerous to the average person.
There has been so much politicalization and conflicting information about Covid, is it any wonder some people have chosen not to get the shot? Had all our politicians and government agencies been honest and forthright from the beginning, we would not see near as much vaccine hesitancy.
Politicalization of the virus has largely been driven by the same folks who drove polarization of national politics during the last decade or so. They aren’t interested in the truth, just in having their base be more entrenched than ever before so that they can hide their decline in social relevance. Compromise in politics is now a dirty word.
The conflicting information is largely for 2 distinctly different reasons — one is the rapidly evolving science around this virus and the disease it causes while the other is the embracing of fringe, tinfoil-hat conspiracies about the virus that have no scientific rationale or backing to them but which are spread through viral disinformation.
By the way, I fully support personal choice when it comes to the vaccine. I am somewhat less supportive of folks who choose to not get vaccinated and then also choose not to wear masks, social distance, or do any of the other behaviors that might minimize spread.
Right on. Apparently everyone’s a medical expert these days!
Nah, but I can read and there is lots to read!
Problem IS, what is real and what is fake?
Yes!!
God I hope everyone isn’t a medical expert, medical mistakes were the #3 leading cause of death pre pandemic. Killing well over 250,000 people a year. But that has miraculously changed during the pandemic, I was worried there would of been more deaths because the hospitals were overwhelmed, they must of really focused hard…
*Sigh*…the hospitals are so full of COVID patients they are not doing surgeries unless the patient is in imminent danger of death. Nothing has “miraculously changed”, including your susceptibility to misinformation and your glee in spreading it.
So you believe it’s misinformation that hospitals accidentally kill well over 250,000 people a year?
Tim, which side politicized HCQ and Ivermectin? Which side censored any scientist or virologist who dared to claim Covid may have leaked from the Wuhan lab? Which party’s leaders said they would not take a vaccine that was supported by that evil Trump guy? I actually agree with your first paragraph, but I think we are thinking of different people.
Neither ivermectin or HCQ are FDA approved or even given an Emergency Use Authorization for COVID.
I thought the cocaine up here was already cut with cow de-wormer anyway.
They are both FDA approved and have long histories of use. Using for COVID, however, is an ‘off label’ use which is subject to a doctor’s discretion, not further FDA action.
Hello Hugh: There is an article today on RENSE.Com about a double blind study out of Israel that shows people taking Ivermectin had shorter terms of illness. It said you can treat people for $1 a day. What about what some articles were saying about Vit “D”, zinc as having positive effects against this so called virus. Nobody has even isolated this thing yet.
Such things seem to come in a cluster- the covid-as-flu, PCR-test-is-a-lie, the-vaccine-changes-DNA, you’ll-only-die-if-you’re-fat, experimental-drug-not-vaccine, sheeple-who-believe-everything-the-government-tells-you cluster. And it comes with a side of never going to take the vaccine no matter what benefit it gives to the public.
So yes, there’s hostility. Don’t be disingenuous that “it’s a personal choice” issue. It’s a propaganda war. If anti vaxxers where honest about the information they pump out, there would be a lot less hostility because it might just a personal decision for real.
Why don’t you hold the media organizations that have massive megaphones to the same standard as your favorite mythical beast?
Why are we 18+ months in and yet the majority of people still believe that case fatality rate is the same as the infection fatality rate?
Is unfounded skepticism the biggest problem or is it the dominant media players letting people believe that this virus is 5-10x more deadly than it actually is? There’s a lot of false confidence at play in society these days. Choosing to pigeon hole the most obscure and powerless groups (your mythical anti vaxxer is just that) as the biggest problem without saying peep about the lies and falsehoods spread by the most powerful voices is just sad
Thanks that guy in Arcata.
arcataguy – I know several anti-vaxers, they are not a “mythical group”. Furthermore, “…majority of ppl still believe that case fatality rate is the same as the infection fatality rate.” more mythology.
Really? What do you believe the risk of death is from covid?
I continually encounter people who believe it is over 1%
Auntie O cited that 1% number on a comment below. She demonstrates slightly more awareness than the average person that I encounter and she clearly doesn’t understand the difference between CFR and IFR so I’m still thinking most are out to lunch on this stuff. Despite 18 months of wall to wall “information” compliments of the dutiful stewards of responsible media
Everyone does understand the difference. It’s just that people who prefer a lower death rate- like anti vaxxers who keep pushing that covid is no big deal- like to divide the number of deaths by a bigger population. That idea seems to be making the rounds of anti vaxxer sites currently.
The infection rate is an indefinite number based on estimates as to who has been infected but didn’t report it. Another trouble with it is that not only the number of infections are an estimate but the deaths are too because not every death is evaluated for covid either. Anyway, eventually as I said, pretty much everyone has been or will be infected and the infection rate will be less of a guess. Long before that anti vaxxers will have created a new point of assault and infection rates versus case rate will be like VAERS, finances of pharmaceutical companies or suing for damages- just another point to be dragged out that proves little but looms large in the anti vaxxer’s eyes.
I remember that early in the pandemic there were many deaths that were not tested. Whether they are now I don’t know. I suspect like everything else in the US it varies by location and the effort they are willing to put in it.
🤔🧐Why would you be visiting antivaxxer sites?
🤔🧐
So you think that using numbers published by the WHO (0.27%) and the CDC (0.33%) is a devious trick by anti-vaxxers to downplay the severity of covid?
The only proper thing to do is to use arbitrarily derived numbers that you made up (much like we must do with vaers data, since the actual data doesn’t fit your narrative) ?
Sounds like some big science you got their auntie. What else should we ignore from those degenerate anti-vaxxers at world health and the centers for disease control?
Oh, and whats the story with those hundreds of correct studies that prove that the current cdc childhood vaccine schedule produces the best health outcomes? I’m having a devil of a time tracking them down. And now that I know they can’t be relied upon to publish legitimate statistics I’m more skeptical of them than ever before…
I agree that Trump politicized it and it would have been much different if we had a better leader when this went down. As far as the misinformation, I attribute a lot of that to a lack of understanding amongst the medical professionals. Covid caught EVERYONE on their heels, nobody knew anything and the medical community was building plane while flying it.
Yeah I think there’s a saying that goes you have a right to choose that might stand for something else though LOL there’s another nine words that are the scariest I’m from the government and I’m here to help Ronald Reagan
Ronald Reagan was from the government. He was there to help. Rich people.
Hey, look it’s the misinformation that Kym allows to fester in the comments. None of the 3 vaccines approved for emergency use in the US are experimental. Assholes like you continuing to spread lies are literally getting people killed.
You are a disgusting human being and I’m ashamed to be part of the same community. Once again Kym, you are also responsible for allowing this behavior on your site. How many more people will you help kill?
Well, 97% of the current deaths from Covid are among the unvaccinated. Less than 1% have had a reaction to the vaccination. You know, that’s the thing about dead people is their whining and complaining days are over. What’s to understand?
Then why should you give a damn about anti vax.
The vaxxers should be celebrating the death of a mindset you despise.
It’s seems that politix have infected the disdain for freedom of expression.
I would suggest Banning cigarettes, alcohol, and all things that cannot be shown to have any positive health effects.
This is where it’s going.
No freedom to engage in health risking activities for the sake of the greater good
They are all, by any rational use of the word, experimental. Go to clinicaltrial.gov and look up the injections in question. None of them have formally posted results to their ongoing trials. You are hearing literal corporate press releases about preliminary data parroted by public health agencies with zero context and then insisting that is “science”
They are, by literal definition, not experimental. Your lies are killing people and you need to stop.
How are they not experimental? Do you know what that word means? They are actively in phase 3 trials (although Pfizer and Moderna both truncated those experiments unfortunately).
Thanks that guy in Arcata. I think they are trying to get you, whosever opinion they don’t like, banned. Thanks for not taking their bait.
I think Kym is a wonderful human being.
We must have very different definitions of wonderful. Wonderful human beings don’t run websites that spread lies that lead to deaths of people in their community. Including those they claim were friends. Commenters on this site and Kym both have blood on their hands.
Coming to breathe some air near you soon!
Wow TOTS, did you forget your meds today? Not ment as an insult, I’m legitimately concerned…
🧐🤔Jab trigger thingy.
It seems to be going around.😁.
Prove it in a court of law, and get a judge to provide summary judgement and awards damages based on your beliefs.
No justice, no peace.
No liability, no peace.
There’s no chance .
No liability, no trust.
You attitude is part of the problem. Calling names. Living in a black and white world. I am pro vaccine in this case but I distrust anybody so certain of their notions. Many people I’ve talked to who distrust vaccines for their new babies have been yelled at by folks like you.
Tonight August 4, the PFIZER VACCINE WAS APPROVED BY THE FDA! Reported by Lester Holt on NBC NIGHTLY NEWS!
This is not true. Please post a link if you have found one.
Thanks that guy in Arcata. It’s not fully approved.
“Full Approval of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine
May Happen by Labor Day.”
From today.
https://www.fdanews.com/articles/203856-full-approval-of-the-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine-may-happen-by-labor-day
As the world turns ,starring Lester Holt
Breaking News: Lester Holt was created in the same lab as the ronavirus
Marvin Hagler dead
Trumpka Dead
Hank Aaron Dead
Andrew Dice Clay — bells palsey
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/boxing/2021/03/16/marvelous-marvin-haglers-death-reason-not-coronavirus-vaccine-wife/4715277001/
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/01/scicheck-hank-aarons-death-attributed-to-natural-causes/
Trumpka (RIP) is barely cold, but I see the internet denizens are already on the case!
https://pagesix.com/2021/08/06/andrew-dice-clay-diagnosed-with-bells-palsy/
It’s not “an experimental drug”. It’s approved for emergency use. Formal approval requires study over a longer period than the vaccine has been available. Hundreds of millions of people have been vaccinated with only a few cases of potential side effects, which are being investigated. 98% of all new covid cases and deaths are unvaccinated people. This current surge is the fault of people who spread lies about the vaccines which are unfortunately believed by some.
Its “authorized for emergency use”, its not approved at all. Its wonderful that the government is willing to acknowledge that fda approval can be overly onerous and people should have access to experimental medicines, but these are still just that. Its barely more than a year since any humans had ever been injected with any of them
In mendo a week ago it was 99% unvaccinated now it’s 88% seems to be dropping.
Hospitalization was 100% unvaccinated now it’s 95%.
Note that all public health agencies seem to be talking about % deaths and hospitalizations among vaccine recipients against all deaths or hospitalizations since this started 18 months ago. Nevermind that 50% of those happened with 0% vaccination. So you can, at a minimum, double the percent of vaccinated in these stats.
It would take much more complex math to sort out how to weigh the various increasing vaccine rates against levels of vaccinated persons dead or hospitalized.
Either way, more obfuscation from public health. And we’re supposed to be mystified as to why so many people don’t follow gov rules
Not everyone is mystified.
You’re mystified .
You’re reading comprehension could use some work. I am not at all mystified that only half this county has gone along with the pressure to accept the injections.
caution would be staying locked down if you’re not vaccinated. is that what you’re doing? Long term side effects, is that your big concern? let me guess, you’re not a doctor.
Pfizer looks to be approved by early next month. Will you please get vaccinated then? I want you to stay healthy 🙂
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/03/us/politics/pfizer-vaccine-approval.html
The New York Times has been caught printing propaganda for the ccp. The times has taken in millions of dollars to publish pro ccp news. This isn’t the first time in history they have done this sort of stuff
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3945570
you mean for the CIA
“Operation Mockingbird”
as with cointelpro
still ongoing it looks like
I get yer frustration. But too broad a brushstroke, as some folk don’t comment selfish-like. And we live in a relative democracy with a relatively free press – good we have places to share viewpoints and info.
It is with compassion and understanding and a little bit of pressure that we can encourage each other to get vaccinated so we can move forward, not with the kind of hate and frustration people like you are spreading. No one wants to do something they are asked to do when it comes from the type of attitude you and so many others represent. Please reconsider your attitude towards unvaccinated people if you really want them to get vaccinated.
Right on Rayray!😁
I myself would normally agree, as to many common-good subjects. But covid has proved a monster of a thang. Just look at its DAILY leaps and bounds. It is downright insidious if given opportunity to stick its finger in the collective eye. The finger just turned into a claw (Delta, now everywhere). And claw might be one variant away from turning into a mouthful of teeth with an insatiable appetite we can’t fend off until mouth loses steam. I’d hate to see the impacts of that.
Don’t trust anyone here as there’s enough generalized well-enough-sorted info and professional opinion (well-enough-sorted is key) that is available and in digestible (honestly readable) format.
Take care.
Compassion and understanding have failed. I’m done with trying to reason with these people, it’s just a waste of everyone’s time. De-platforming works, stopping the spread of lies and misinformation works. Allowing them to continue leads to more death and suffering.
You literally have an conspiracy nut who refuses to do the right thing saying “right on” to your comment. You won’t change their mind with compassion and understanding.
The time for civility is over, now it’s time to ostracize these assholes who don’t give a shit about the people around them.
Hi Brian!
we’re tired of your shit. Go worship a goat ya dang fascist. I aint taking the mark, praise Jesus.
For the unvaxxed? N99 mask… and sunglasses. and dont go to town. Buy a gas mask. But if you dont want a forcible injection because you aren’t a slave, by all means dont take it.
IF YOU ARENT VAXXED DONT SLIP, but these vaxxed needle rapist commies can suck it.
Preach it brutha bearjoo, preach it!
Is the vaccine fda approved ? The food and drug administration was originally created because of faulty vaccines. It was a brutal process. Im gonna pass until its verified .
Early September. Possibly before Labor Day. That’s the target set by the FDA for full approval.
Angela Robinson,
I just read that as of three day ago, J&J had not yet even applied for full FDA approval.
They pulled their request for accelerated approval on India.
India no longer requires testing in India if the vaccine has foreign approval.
I am not sure if an EAU qualifies for that.
Since they have yet to apply for full FDA approval in the US, and that is what India requires, J&J is out of luck in India, and FDA approval in the US hasn’t even been requested yet, so that is not looking promising either.
Moderna and Pfizer have bother applied for full FDA approval.
I’m not sure if the recent finding that for people fully vaxxed since January the efficacy is now only 16% will affect the approval.
Maybe it should.
How could that not have an affect on rising cases?
I think more attention will be focused on the booster very soon.
The rollout will be in the upper half of the wave. Carefully timed to appear mist effective.
We are not there yet.
Or they would be giving it now.
If they gave it now cases would still go up anyway. Beyond the point the boost could be credited.
And where are you inventing this 16% from?
Bushytails, 16%?
Do your due diligence.
Look for AA’s comments.
AA is the king of the Triple A links.
Always at the cutting edge, where I like to stay.
The very latest info.
Do I really have to find it for you? Just to give you an opportunity to ridicule it and deny it?
You always miss the most recent memos.
End up in Singapore, trying to drag my comments there with you.
Go back on the most recent Covid19 threads.
Start at the bottom and go up. AA’s comment is near the end of the comments.
A day or 2 ago.
Off the top of my head…
Pfizer vaccine, from Israel.
If fully vaccinated;
In January, 16 %, efficacy,
In February, 44%, efficacy,
In March, 69%, efficacy,
In April, 79%, efficacy,
Remaining.
Somehow they figured, 41% overall efficacy.
You find it, if you’re interested, all you did was play games during the last discussion.
You could seem to get from Singapore to Cape Cod.
Or that test numbers matter.
If your only interest is to dispute me, I’m not interested in that, play that game with someone else.
As a side note, I read today that J&J has yet to apply for full FDA approval in the US.
Probably didn’t waste their time applying because they knew it was never going to fly, so why risk a denial?
Watch, J&J will not be FDA approved. Not with this vaccine. Maybe not ever.
And there is a new kid around, Might be a new treatment.
For Singapore, etc.
FabiSpray, nitric oxide nasal spray, anti microbial.
Supposed to reduce vial load.
Check it out.
Lates.
I don’t have time to read the comments on every thread on here – I’m often on the road, or doing other useful things. I don’t think I’ve even looked at the last few covid articles, much less the discussions on them. I usually check in when I have time, then just skim the headlines for news I need when I don’t have time. I don’t get “memos” from anywhere.
So, googling those numbers to find the source, found a preliminary study from israel. It doesn’t look like it’s been peer-reviewed yet, so may have flaws.
I also found another explanation for those numbers – israel’s vaccination system vaccinated the oldest and frailest first, much like ours – so the people who were vaccinated back in january were the ones with the weakest immune systems. This makes determining whether those numbers are a result of the vaccine waning, or a result of different populations being vaccinated at different times, much harder to tell.
The same study also found the vaccine, regardless of when it was given, to be exceptionally effective at preventing severe symptoms and deaths. This suggests that the vaccine losing effectiveness is less likely to be the cause.
A possible confounding factor is unvaccinated populations developing natural immunity, which makes the vaccine look less effective, since you’re comparing infections/outcomes in vaccinated vs unvaccinated people.
The study had a fairly small sample size, and I don’t see any part about how they controlled for selection bias… but the english translation I’m looking at is partial, I think. However, regardless of their translation, when they give a confidence interval of 8.7%-61.2%, the numbers need to be taken with a very, very large grain of salt. That’s the type of CI that implies the data can, at best, be used to suggest where future studies might look, not to draw conclusions from.
However, let’s say the numbers are perfectly accurate, and the cause is indeed the vaccine’s effectiveness waning against the new delta variant. What does this mean? First, the study still shows it be extremely effective at preventing severe symptoms. Second, it means we might need a booster shot, either the same vaccine to boost immunity, or an improved one to specifically target new variants. This is something that has always been considered a possibility. If you want to make it less of a possibility… Get your shot and follow masking, distancing, and other guidelines now.
I posted the link for you under one of you other comments, Bushytails.
The link is also posted by AA in the thread from Tuesday under 124 cases, etc.
It’s the one from Forbes, but like I said I posted it as a reply to one of your comments from
8:00 tonight.
Scroll down from here 60 comments and you will find it.
Goodnight.
It’s weird how it also never occurred to you that some, or all, of the treatment groups could’ve had natural antibodies prior to the vax.
Weirder yet, is how THE SCIENCE isn’t interested in dealing with such baseline selection criteria for their slop billiards/observational studies that you religiously adhere to, without scrutiny.
But, hey, hopefully it doesn’t matter that junk science won’t interfere with vax sales. Besides, you’re doing all that “useful” shit, anyway, and so can’t always be bothered to prepared for your sermons.
You’re full of **it, regurgitating nonsense from bloggers with a weird anti-social agenda. The science is clear. The Pfizer vaccine’s efficacy is 95%. 98% of current covid deaths is in unvaccinated people. Anyone can post anything on the internet (almost). There is no quality control, no fact check. Published reports from medical science undergo a rigorous peer review process where all methods and calculations are double and triple checked to ensure the standards of professional science are met. You are putting more faith in politically afflicted amateurs than in real doctors. My condolences to your family.
Sorry Joe Mota
The ‘science’ is NOT CLEAR.
You are behind the times…lots and lots of breakthru infections…that the CDC for some reason, isn’t at all interested in unless hospitalization or death occurs.
Get up to speed dude.
This is not India.
Pfizer & Moderna are both on the cusp of FDA approval.
If you do not want the jab, cover your face or stay home.
Killing or sickening others is not nice.
But only a small portion of the population even is or can be infected.. you act like everyone has this insidious virus which just isn’t true even if you want it to be
600,000 killed in the US. Currently 58 people a day are dying of covid in Florida. You act like that’s trivial.
Yeah you would think we would start holding the country that killed all those people accountable at some point.
I know about Moderna and Pfizer. They actually applied for FDA approval.
And J&J has not even applied for full FDA approval in the US yet.
Why is that?
If you think vaccinated people don’t spread the virus, you should catch up on the news from the last week.
Are you a Covaxin enthusiast from way back?
This is not Sweden, either.
Damn sure ain’t Norway or Gibraltar.
Nor is it America.
But, I may quote Bowie slightly loosely.
I’m afraid of Americans. I’m afraid of the world. I’m afraid I can’t help it. I’m afraid I can’t…
The FDA approves a lot of really nasty stuff…
True dat!
And then they double back and recall or ban it.
like DDT, A FUCKING MIRACLE!
OR
Thalidomide.
Or
Glyphosate…or
Raptiva, Rezulin, Seldane, Meridia, Accutane, Vioxx Ergamisol, Duract Cylert, Bextra, Lipitor OR Crestor….
ALL FORMER “MIRACLES.”
A third of the drugs the FDA approved between just 2001 and 2010 were involved in some kind of safety event after reaching the market. I expect the same from these franken- vaxs IF they even reach approval.
I’d post a link but lately links seem to get my posts incinerated and prevent me from commenting at all. The censoring is real.
You dig deeper. The list of dangerous or DEADLY formerly approved and touted as gd “miracles” is over 6000 products /medicines.
Scepticism is HEALTHY
Hey now, quit spreading your misinfo! they still approve of the widespread use of glyphosate! they aren’t done poisoning the world yet! Quit yer lyin’!
Tonight, August 4 , the PFIZER VACCINE was APPROVED BY THE FDA reported by NBC NIGHTLY NEWS!
Don’t like what you read here, I have a solution for you, DON’T Read it!!!
I am glad to see someone stand up for the vaccine Trump rushed to get out untested in full and paid for, he never fucked up anything. Rocket scientist I tell ya! All the anti vaccine BS that Biden and Harris spouted on the campaign trail sowing the seeds of doubt and pledging that they would NEVER take the Trump vaccine and telling everyone else to do the same is what has really screwed everything up! Trump vaccines for everyone!
Quit barking at Kym if you don’t even know where the BS all started…
98% of current covid deaths are people who are not vaccinated. The internet is a swamp of misinformation. Pay attention to what real doctors and real medical researchers say, not to unhinged internet bloggers.
Can u prove what you say or just lashing out? As far as I see it’s the rabid jabbers who have unmasked and spread the virus around the country thinking they were protected while all along ignoring the fact that they were never told they won’t get or spread the virus, just that it will keep you from getting really sick. You’d be surprised how many people don’t latch on to the mainstream teeth and swallow what the government and all her arms say to us.. they’ve been lieing for years.. why would they stop now? And I’m not even an anti vaxxer.. just interested in the truth which is hard to come.by
The truth is there for all to see. You just need to be able to read and understand. And the government is us for chrissakes.
Ignore “the government” (whatever you mean by that). Pay attention to medical doctors and medical researchers who know that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are 95% effective at preventing infection and nearly 100% effective at avoiding hospitalization and death. Hundreds of millions of people have taken these vaccines with no serious side effects…only a handful of people have had problems. 98% of current covid deaths are unvaccinated people.
Anti-vaxers are causing this surge and thousands of people in the US will die as a direct result.
They don’t care. Period.
We have met the enemy, and it is SWEDEN!
Emperor Xi Thanks you…. all of you good little dems will live forever in the nice matrix the Chinese have designed for us… whoopee!
Don’t worry, nobody has changed their minds because of their armchair expertise in virology, epidemiology and fear of masks.
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Well maybe as a person who thinks for themselves these items might be considered here.
1. How are the numbers so great, greater than pre vaccination times of the vaccine is not causing the burst in numbers?
2. The masks, social distancing, lockdowns did not work before so why are they supposed to work now?
3. Why are there no other remedies provided by this Dr or health officer aside from tyrant style remedies like masks or vaccines?
4. Who is still being tested as most who are not going to get vaccinated certainly are not out testing themselves daily?
5. Who is testing positive? Vaccinateds or non’s?
6. Why are the hospitals “full”? Are these ALL COVID PATIENTS as this article and this Dr lead us to believe?
7. What other co challenges are these supposed sick people carrying?
8. How can anyone else not have these same questions?
9. How are these tests being done as the CDC has announced the testing program was flawed from the beginning and could not differentiate from a cold, flu or Covid?
10. If these tests did not work then why are they still being used and how does it test for a “variant”?
11. A recent study from England states that this “variant” is passed easier yet is not even as dangerous as the original?
12. 18 months of data show fraud, conspiracies and profiteering have all been the mainframe for this scamdemic. Why are these items constantly left from the discussions while fear and tyranny are the chosen topic jewels?
I would prefer reasonable answers to these questions with valid facts not fear mongering or tyrannical notions as the response.
1) Because before we had masking, social distancing, and lockdowns, which work well. See #2. Also, we have a new mutation of the virus that is more infectious.
2) They did work, and well. Thus, they will likely work now too.
3) Because no other remedies have been found to work.
4) Employees in health care facilities, assisted living facilities, many other workplaces, and people with symptoms. Just like before.
5) Mostly non-vaccinated people, according to nationwide data, although breakthrough infections are higher with delta than previously.
6) They’re full because virtually entirely unvaccinated people are ending up in ICUs.
7) The same “co challenges” as the rest of the population.
8) Because they use their brains.
9) The CDC has not announced that, or anything similar to that, in any way. Anyone saying so is full of shit.
10) The tests do work, and have always worked. We’re detecting variants by gene sequencing positive tests, which also is further confirming tests work.
11) A mutation can be more infectious, less infectious, more dangerous, less dangerous, or something else entirely. Let’s be glad it hasn’t mutated to be more deadly yet.
12) 18 months of conspiracy theories have made such claims. They’re left out from discussions because no one starting discussions believes the crap the conspiracy theorists spew.
Sean – Learn how to read and use Google. Ask how many people have been saved by being vaccinated and following governmental rules around Covid, worldwide.
Hey, Alexa—what’s the most bullshit, biased, slime-anointed, DNC corporatist/fascist, needle-chasing, hive of power-mad vampires who cornered the market for “looking up things?”
Great comments Bushytails. Finally someone using their head for something other than an asshole plug.
Thanks,
Your right Sean, the majority of unvaccinated will never be tested, they could careless about doctors or death. If covid kills them it will because they went to sleep on the couch due to pure exhaustion from working straight thru covid to the end. We are the ones that never stopped through this whole pandemic and keep America rolling. And we will die working hard.
#2…Today- 2,881 New Zealand (total Covid. cases) vs. 5,351 Humboldt Co.(total Covid. cases). 😹 (Be a Kiwi not a Q!🥴)
Stupid questions. Read some actual medical science not some nitwit internet blogger.
One of the last ,er only spaces,where everyone is allowed to comment and still monitored for inappropriate talk.. Yes,I’m vaxxed..so don’t throw that “anti vaxxer ,Trumpster” crap at me. Freedom of Speech used to be popular ” idea” It went a little bit like,” I may disagree with what you say,but I’ll defend your right to say it,with everything I have”. No longer though. Go back to the echo chamber of 12 on Loco for non challenging wokester circle j, er chats. Totalitarianism in the making over yonder.
👍well put
yes Im really tired of self interested corporate nazis too…. they create the virus then create the cure. Meanwhile they break the competition, and the cure is worse than the disease.
Oh absolutely! I come hear to read the comments and decide what medical choices I should make for me and my family. Makes total sense.
Damn. Hey y’all, I’ve got love for you. All of you as human beings. I’m not going to argue about right or wrong or to vax or not to vax, I don’t care about conspiracies.
Whatever the heck someone thinks this Virus is, wherever someone thinks it came from, none of that really matters right now because it’s killing and making people very ill. I want to not wear a mask. I want to use the ticket I won to an event near and dear to my heart. I want to see my coworkers smiling and not so smiling faces when when work starts in a few weeks. I want it all to be done but ITS NOT OVER, so I’m staying home and out of big groups, inside or outside. I’m wearing a dang mask and washing my hands, a lot. Can’t we all do the same? Sacrifice a little comfort and pride for the sake of living?
Amen to that (and I’m not christian, just Chris)
third… dont take the shot for the virus… but dont get the china virus
Ok, but just for 2 weeks though, right?
Thank you sir. Nice to see a bit of sanity now & then ☺
No thanks, but your comments remind me of the Rodney King quote about can’t we all just get along?
What is the confirmed death rate from Covid-19 in Humboldt County now?
My last calculations were 99.996 percent odds in not dying from Covid in Humboldt.
Your math is wrong
Depends on if you’re comparing the death rate to the entire population of humboldt or the death rate to just the people that have tested positive. According to the Humboldt County government informational page our population is 135,558. There has been 5,351 documented cases of covid which is 3.94% of the population. There have been 54 reported deaths which is roughly 1% of documented positive covid cases or .039% of overall population. There have been 240 hospitalizations which makes up 4.48% of positive cases and .177% of overall population. There has only been four deaths of individuals under the age of 60. Underlying health conditions are not disclosed in the publicly available information of the deaths of anybody with covid. I would also add that according to every study done on antibody testing they are finding roughly 80% more people with antibodies then had a documented positive test for covid, which would drastically reduce the percentages of deaths and hospitalizations by population.
So basically if you’re under the age of 60 you probably have a higher likelihood of being struck by lightning then dying from covid-19.
You are correct, even higher chance of winning the lotto if under 40, lamedemic for the young and middle-aged, shear panic for the boomers.
Sheer panic for boomers still hooked on watching too much tv.
135,558 Total population
54 deaths “with” Covid
0.039% chance of death
99.961% recovery rate
I charge $500/hr for common sense training.
I think many of us have come to grips with the frustration at the number of people who genuinely do not give a shit about how many people get seriously ill or die from this disease. They either downplay its seriousness, exaggerate concerns about the vaccine or masks, or buy into wildly illogical fringe comments about COVID, the vaccines, or the people trying get us through it all just so they can justify their selfish behaviors.
Frankly, I shouldn’t be surprised at this. Just look at any number of our other social problems that we’ve also managed to ignore, downplay, and rant against and that continue to grow worse to this day. This divisiveness has been promulgated by those who seek to benefit from division and it works for them. Kind of sad, really, that we’re unable to come together over something as straightforward as limiting the spread of this virus. That does not speak well to our future and dealing with all the other issues at hand.
It works for the globalists!
Heck maybe it’s Newsomes way to use mail in voting in his recall movement?
Thanks, Tim, for this. Yes, sad but no longer surprising.
No thanks actually.
Nope, gotta clear em out! It’s far more humane allowing a disease to run its course than taking depopulation into our own hands.
I guess we could always line up and stand on a grate and push a button, if it turns green we can walk away, if it turns red we are promptly incinerated. Everyone on the planet has to hit the button once.
I’ll take natural selection from a disease though, it usually clears out the less productive and weaker parts of society. Random selection is messy and might take out too many children, babies, and otherwise healthy people.
Yes! Natural selection is so unreasonable, it can’t be natural.
Hmmmm. China has no responsibility here. Of course not… because Nike can’t give up their slave labor that all of you sheep buy, on a daily basis. Pathetic! Be an American and be proud of who you are. Turn off that “Rectangle of Bullshit” you watch every night. Be thankful for what you have.
Great comment! I love that, “Rectangle of Bullshit” and people making money as it flows.
Like Joe Average said, over on Lost Coast, “For the children.”👍👍👍
The National death rate average just started to increase, 5 weeks behind the beginning of this waves surge. That should be encouraging to anyone actually following the science, not just saying the word.
🕯🌳Good 👁 again Mile.💉💉🧾
It’s a sign that the current surge is primarily in younger unvaccinated people who tend to have a lower fatality rate for this virus. Keep in mind that hospitalizations, even among younger patients, is already spiking to levels that are higher than at the peak of the big surge last winter in many areas. This should provide clear evidence that the vaccines are providing significant protection against serious illness and death in older populations which have much higher vaccination rates.
The caveat is that for those in vulnerable populations who are not vaccinated, their risk of serious illness and death is probably higher than it’s ever been before for this virus. And the number of people who will have to deal with long-COVID is about to skyrocket.
Ok, what’s your end game? Zero game is essentially impossible at this point, so what’s your end game? Al o keep hearing is socially distance, wear a mask and get jabbed. Jabbed still spread the virus, other countries would still make variants that obviously get around the jab so ALL the vulnerable are still vulnerable. So what’s your end game? 110 years more of this stupid shit? I’m case you haven’t noticed that is going to happen, the younger generation is becoming full blown apathetic, rightfully so.
Exactly. And then there are those pesky 22 states who are free and their populations are not keeling over dead, there is that pesky place called Sweden with 0 actions against this scamdemic and guess what 0 deaths and 0 cases.
Or you know those pesky super spreader events like lalapalooza, Super Bowls, Hockey games, you know Sturgis, I do 500 and nada. Just makes one scratch there heads in disbelief at how damn gullible people can be when fear is driving into them day and night by the propaganda machine.
Yeah, name those states for me, will you. Look at the Covid maps for fucks sake.
Well the 4 highest mortality rates for covid are new York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island. All of which have had among the strictest government measures in the country.
Lowest are Hawaii (being a small island and hard closing the border proving to be the most successful covid strategy yet again), vermont, Alaska, and Maine . Those other three aren’t noted for their strict countermeasures.
Going up the list there are many states like Utah, Idaho, Wisconsin, Nebraska, etc… on the lower quarter of death rates that definitely were far more lax than California. There’s really scant evidence that any of these interventions have accomplished anything useful
Sweden’s national approach to Covid failed. As of August 5, 2021, 06:46 GMT, Sweden has had 1,102,829 Covid cases with 14,620 deaths. Their cases are climbing.
Eh, sweden is pretty much in the middle globally as far as outcomes and just a bit above the middle as far as europe. Also, their death rate is trending better than most european countries right now. Doesn’t seem like a failure to me. Much less stressful on their population not having kids out of school, not having all socializing shut down. They did better than the US so far
And they’re under 40% vaxxed.
I gave up on the idea of an end game because of the obvious futility of it. It’s a year and a half into this and people are still refusing to do basic shit like mask and social distance or take advantage of a safe and effective vaccine because they are somehow afraid that it might make them look not-macho enough, or not-Republican enough, or not-free-thinker enough.
So I’m going to do what I need to in order to keep myself and the folks I directly interact with as safe as possible and pay attention to what medical science suggests is the best path forward.
And occasionally comment when I think it might help someone make a rational choice. Or when I need to vent some of the frustration I have with the obstinately ill-informed amongst the commentariat.
Your frustration is well founded, do you think anyone’s else isn’t? Take kids for example, they’ve been asked to sacrifice possibly more than any one else, except small business owners, by something that statically speaking doesn’t affect them. I may be many things, but ill informed isn’t one of them. I’ve accepted this is a mathematical equation, you have a part in it just like everyone else. If you intend to play the long game on social distancing, you indeed have a long game ahead of you and I wish you luck. I have children, and for me to do that would be the equivalent of child abuse, by every definition of the term.
I’m sympathetic to anyone who has kids to raise during this pandemic and I don’t envy the disruption and stress you’ve had to deal with.
You may be running a numbers game on COVID-19 but when it comes down to it, it’s the personal impacts that are either devastating or not for the individual. The guy in his 30’s with no pre-existing conditions who recently died probably though he had good statistical odds right up until he didn’t.
The long game on social distancing isn’t a problem for me — it’s pretty much the status quo. I’ve gotten enough social interaction from my regular job to last for a while.
I’m not going to go into the math, I’m not even going to do it, but guesstimate, about 4 or 5 more people in their 30’s will die in humboldt if vaccinations stop, and that is excluding those will natural antibodies, so more like 2. Do you feel that should be enough to stop the other 12,995 or so people in their 30’s from living their life? If so for how long, please be specific, I am open to any realistic options as long as they are realistic
The formerly strong notion of the elders sacrificing for their children is long gone. The most selfish generation in US history is elderly now and they’ve got no problem throwing the rest of us under the bus in an effort to eek out a few more years here
I think you’re making a false premise here — the other 12,995 people can still live their lives, just with some minor adjustments to limit the spread of the disease. All of which are entirely realistic things like wearing a mask indoors while the spread is high, getting vaccinated, and avoiding crowds. I think that’s the part I find so amazing — the unwillingness to do minor things to reduce spread of the virus because they might inconvenience you ever so slightly.
That’s a cheap cop out. If you’re vulnerable stay home. Problem solved. Have some personal accountability instead of expecting every one to cater to you. As the Arcata guy has said, this highlights boomers and Karen’s being selfish. Shutting down businesses and schools are a slight inconvenience to you? Record high deaths of despair? Slight inconvenience? It’s supposed to be worth the price but it is no way shape or fucking form a slight inconvenience. Record transfer of wealth from the working class to the one percent? Slight Inconvenience. Just live my life, tell my kids they can’t approach or play with any other children for coming close to 3 years because your selfish and want everyone to live in a hole with you? No grow up. And it’s people like you that make me not want to wear a mask, and I won’t because of you. How’s that for a slight inconvenience?
That comment was just you throwing a temper tantrum. Be a fucking grown up.
I never wrote that we should close schools or businesses. Just wear a mask indoors when spread is high. It’s not fucking hard, quit acting like it’s some major imposition on your life.
The transfer of wealth has been going on for some time now, that isn’t new or even related to COVID. It’s related to tax laws more than anything else.
It’s been a year and a half since this all started. Not 3 years. Quit exaggerating.
BOOOOM goes the dynamite! Mile for the win.
You said in a later response that you’re just asking for people to mask up during times of high spread. But you say here that you’re really asking for everyone to accept experimental injections and ‘avoid crowds’. I don’t know how you avoid crowds while keeping schools open. It also makes a lot of businesses untenable. Just admit what you are actually asking of people. If you really believe in it, own it.
I’ll go first. I’m asking that people take personal responsibility for their own health and make the choices they believe best serve that goal. I am also asking that people stop living in a la la land where death can be avoided for ever, public policy can not be based on the premise that no one should ever die.
safe and effective euthanasia. Props to the control group. I want to live past 2024
More lockdowns, more listless cattle, more passive wealth for namer.
God, Podesta & Dr. Ms. Jill Biden, please giveth the vaxxx mandates!
You desperately seeking daddy commuters damn sure earned that one (1) taco, hotdog, or pre-rolled marijuana cigarette!
Is it booster time, yet?
*As always, this is not a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold MRNA, RACE, or XMO.
Sverige vibes, VAXBOTS.
namer tried telling you—nicely, for a while.
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It’s to steal the childhood from all the children so when they grow up they will have all the compassion in the world for the elderly who subjected them to that sort of abuse when the elderly are frail and need help.
Same mandate in mendo. All I see are a bunch political posts arguing about who is right. Why not just make the mask mandate effective immediately if it makes such a big difference?
🕯🌳Money take your hands off my stash. 💉💉🧾
I’d imagine it’s to give businesses time to print new signs, etc, and to make sure news outlets have time to get the message out to everyone, so we don’t end up with people who don’t know about the re-masking walking into stores without a mask and then having an employee need to ask them.
I foresee it happening quite a bit anyway, however, by people who did see the news but decided it shouldn’t apply to them…
Nobody really cares this time around, the numbers are out and the flu is bad for our elders just like any other year. But it is starting to wear on most, I don’t see masking lasting, at this point no more are getting vaccines and that crowd could careless if they die of covid.
Excerpt, a shudder of a read the whole article is, from today mild-rightcenter Newsweek:
“The World Health Organization is already keeping an eye on several (variations): Eta, which is now in several countries; Kappa, which arose in India; Iota, which first popped up in New York City—and especially Lambda, which has torn through Peru …”
“It’s going to be very difficult to stop it from happening with masks and social distancing at this point,” says Preeti Malani, a physician and infectious disease researcher and chief health officer at the University of Michigan. “Vaccines are the key, and vaccine hesitancy is the obstacle.”
Not perfect, not 100% definitive, but we use what we currently have in the toolbox. I’m no tool, no paid or unpaid shill, nobody pulls my strings. Just a dude who tries to be reasonable and rational, pay attention, and try to look and cut thru certain chatter. We might be doing everything wrong (current vaccines, the better ones anyway) in the relative end (wherever, whatever, and if-ever as to covid). But …
Life is short. Place yer bets folks. Put down your chips, as we the wheel get spun. But remember: it’s not all about you. I put my bet on mask-vax back in the Spring. Got semi-comfy for a spell ditching the mask in breezy outdoor social settings. No longer. And no regrets, zero, as to vaxxing, side-effects be damned. Ready for my booster when/if available. And I currently plan to jab the next better vax, if and when it makes the seen.
Peace
I will take my 99.9% chance. Hell I would take a 80% chance as I prefer freedom.
Live for it or die for it.
yeah I’m not joining the Borg. If they try to force jab? Im moving to Mexico somewhere on the beach.
Force jabbing a fake vaccine that wears off in 4 months, might kill you, and is proven unsafe and ineffective is an ACT OF WAR.
wake the f up. Or we all have to show our slave papers.
bearjoo, we all know “the Borg” is Star Trek movie villain. So ask yerself, as to Picard and the virus: “What would Picard do?” He’d give a unity speech then try and wipe it out.
But, so, maybe avoid any potential for a forced jab (I hope you mean jab mandate for healthy folk, as opposed to GI Jane holding you down). Mexico could be good, but virus is everywhere.
Slave papers?
Maybe too much reading wutever going on, talking smack with friends, social media, old hippy idealism, wanna-b-outlaw mentality, all mixed together. But I got over it. Sorta.
He probably likes the Red Sox, Celtics and Bruins.
I do today… just not the day before yesterday. Used to live in Hells Kitchen and was a mets guy, but now??????? I LOVE BOSTON!!!!!!
TAKE YOUR SLAVE PAPERS AND SHOVE THEM XI
You wake the fuck up. Do you not know anything about Mexico? They will tell you, like Canada does to go fucking home and stay there.
Mexico is actively welcoming visitors and has been this whole time
Correct ,Mexico would love to see you, very welcoming, went 3 times last year, very nice.
Mexico is awesome. In certain places and times she can be tricky as to the ~1%, having pissing contests over penis length, turf, drug market, et al. Kinda like rural NW CA.
💖☺ thank you. We are in the same camp.
It’s way past time for the mask mandate. It’s time to shut down large events, possibly limit or eliminate indoor dining, certainly for the unvaccinated. The statistics in Humboldt County are the worst they have ever been during the entire pandemic. Alderpoint, where I live, largely escaped the main COVID waves, but we have not escaped this one. A local man just died, and he was not elderly. There are several cases in town, and our vaccination % is quite low. I would think that the death of this unfortunate man would be wake people up to the peril, but the unvaccinated I have spoken with are sticking to it. I’m hoping with all my heart that they do not catch COVID, and if they do that they are not hospitalized. I won’t even be able to visit them if they are. Looks like Alderpoint’s days of good fortune are over. It’s time to get serious.
Yes the dirty unvaxxed should be ostrasized. Way to b ed.
If it wasn’t for these constant reminders to live in fear i might forget that this is not really about a virus. it is about control and pushing the marxist globalist agenda.
Yep, damn those evil globalists trying to control you into not dying or killing others! What evil people!
And he absolutely DOES NOT live in fear, lol.
dont you get it…. you might have been SCAMMMMMMMMED
and now you act like its the unscammed’s fault. Y’all crazy
bearjoo, I think the likes of the Rev. Jimmy Jones said similar at times.
Yep Jim Jones, and it was nice of all those Democrat politicians to prop him up, for votes.
Just check the AVA archives.
As for the jab….
1st, we tried to scare you
Then we tried guilt trips
Then we tried to buy you
Then we tried to bribe you
Then we tried to shame you
Then we tried to scare you again
Then we tried to force you
Now we threaten you and your jobs
Show us your papers
hmmm…. did someone mention Jim Jones?
Farrakan…. and Rizza Islam… Its not just a “right wing” thing…. This is a satan vs god thing.
Dont be a COVIDIOT either…. If you are unvax you are at risk!
Stay safe and dont go to town
Yeah those evil people you all were obsessed with last year, although to be fair yeah sure is still obsessed with the one. I see you guys sure forgot that fascist word quickly.
“You guys sure forgot that fascist word quickly.”
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last year fascism bad… this year fascism good. And watch as they all pile into the stonks at the worst time…. Klaus loves you….
Trump is still very much a part of the GQP. You’re not aware of that? He’s such an embarrassment for them but they still wholeheartedly embrace him.
That he is no longer president is not a reason to never talk about him.
Lol. It’s 2021, not 1921. Not even the russkies, the chinese, Hanoi, nobody but a handful of winger-dingers here and there, smoke much from the Marx/Engles pipe anymore. Theres just too much dope to be sold (J&J anyone?) for that.
83 cases of the flu, is that really a personal best or was it we never tested this much for any flu in the past. I think we all know the answer, keep buying them lotto tickets . This is what happens when billions of people have access to the web every second, everyone is an expert. Maybe pay alittle less attention to the internet and alittle more to your surroundings.
That you continue to not understand that flus and coronaviruses are entirely separate is getting pretty pathetic at this point. Do you start talking about how people actually died of drowning every time you see an article about a motorcycle crash? And I’m sure all those plane crash victims really died of overdoses…
This lamedemic is the Wuhan Flu, fool!
With gain of function funded by your tax dollars in a CCP lab approved and funded by our NIH and your boy Dr. Fauci.
Once again our tax dollars squandered. Gain of function should be killing 80% of us, not less than 2%! Goddamned communist bastards are a bunch of hacks funded by leftist goons in our own government! Fuckers can’t find their ass with both hands if they tried!
Sorry bud, pneumonia falls under the flu category, how many covid deaths were directly related to pneumonia. Are we at 10 percent of the population dead? Are we at 1 percent of 40 year and younger population dead? Lamedemic
🤔🧐Which virus was the backbone?
Folks you may take this as political, not meant to be that way. So the way it went down in mid-June was everybody not vaccinated was suppose to where a mask indoors and outside in groups where you couldn’t separate by 6 feet or more. How many of the unvaccinated did so? I know I was in Costco and way more than half the people were maskless. So taking the number above percentage-wise, some people were not following, not mandates, guidelines.
So the government did not make me get a shot, I chose to. I chose to not wear a mask as soon as I didn’t have to, I hate masks, but i wore them when asked to.
When the first Polio vaccine was rushed out a bunch of people died or were crippled, not good. When the Covid vaccine was rushed out, how many died, how many were crippled? Experimental? Yes Mandated? No.
All I know is because people couldn’t be bothered to follow guidelines, the honor system is out the window and I gotta wear the fucking mask again.
Thanks 49.4
Of course, alcohol, tobacco, sugar, drugs, and all the other things people put inside themselves have absolutely no bearing on this health crisis.
Let’s talk about Gain of function.
LET’S TALK ABOUT the role of government as a proxy for the wealthiest people on the planet to carry out their agendas.
From where I sit, I see people who cannot, for the life of them, recognize the importance of holding their own government accountable.
How would you do that anyway?
Governments have been about the rich having their way since the caveman, nothing new. The founding fathers were not the poor, downtrodden folk. So what are you screaming from the hilltops. I say dduuuhhh. Give the crazy a brownie with no pot, please.
They all suck.
Now that was a political statement.
You’re right on Tony. Those that are wise enough to remember the past such as polio epidemic try their best not to repeat it. We’ve been privileged and spoiled in this country to not know the suffering the rest of the world has endured from epidemics in the last 60+ years. Somehow along the way we’ve forgotten how to do our part as an individual for the betterment of society as a whole.
Ah, wisdom, FogDog.
All the bullshit that USA INC has been exporting over the past 50 plus years is finally coming home to roost.
The 99% better get its act together and start flexing together against corruption and those who seek too much authority over the flock.
“When the Covid vaccine was rushed out, how many died, how many were crippled? ”
Somewhere in the 5-50,000 range possibly dead, no real clear way to know, you could comb through vaers reports and make your own determination and then come up with whatever factor shy of capturing the total story you’re believe the database to be. As of a week ago vaers was reporting about 12,000 deaths possibly related to the vaccine and about 41,000 hospitalizations. 1200 miscarriages too, are those deaths?
Its up for everyone to decide for themselves. It’ll be a while before we get any reliable information. If you aren’t aware, we are in the midst of an emergency declaration under the PREP Act. You can read more about it here;
https://www.phe.gov/Preparedness/legal/prepact/Pages/prepqa.aspx#claim1
All of these injections, tests, ventilators, masks, etc… and their manufacturers are protected from liability because this was a medical emergency. If anyone believes they were harmed by any of these “countermeasures” then they have one year from the injury to file a claim for compensation from the HRSA’s Countermeasure Injury Compensation Program.
Ever heard of it? Not many have. Weird, huh? From a recent interview I heard the gov has not been forthcoming on initial foia requests for the goings on with this Compensation Program. Further foias have allegedly been filed and legal proceedings are likely forth coming. These are administrative proceedings within the Department of Health and Human Services. These are not public legal claims for compensation due to harm.
But I’m sure our government will be transparent. And if not, well I’m sure the media will hold their feet to the fire.
Oh, and there is no end date on the original PREP Act declaration that went into effect Feb 4 2020. However, the qualified immunity extends until October 20, 2024.
So there’s that
Crabs game anyone…!
Not anymore. I went last night for two innings. Only about 1 in 30 were masked up. A lotta folks have just gone extra numb in the head.
To me, it’s like trying to convince someone against their better judgment
It’s the individual who must be In control of their life.
When people who tell complete strangers that they are responsible for anyone else’s health and safety and need to take a product that has ABSOLUTELY NO GUARANTEES, then when people get injured, those people who are injured know exactly who is responsible.
True. And,
– ‘Merican Patriot Patrick Henry (long time ago): “Give me Liberty, or give me death”
– Trump: “Give me Liberty, and give me … your death”
– Others, Out There Today: “Give me Liberty, and give me death … and I’m taking you with me.”
A little heavy handed, sure. But it’s kinda been heading in that direction, metaphorically speaking, the whole Liberty + Virus thing.
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🎼“I’m proud to be Swede-a-holic/
where acleast I ain’t got some selfrighteous, erstwhile hippie—or their stunted, brat spawn—chasing me with a fucking death-needle/
And, I know I’m more than 98% chance not gonna fucking die-ee-eee of some Babylonian bullshit, anyway…”🎼
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(Copyright ‘21, namer)
Weird how your Sweden comments are consistently ignored by the vax zealots huh?
I don’t respond to outright diarrhea, preferring to watch ‘em smear it all over themselves haha.
Yeah, it’s really weird. VAXBOTS must’ve figured Sweden was successfully exterminated a year-and-a-half ago, under a pile of MSM propaganda, once and for all.
*Ceedit to bearjoo (below) for lyrical inspiration—saying, “hippies wouldn’t have taken this.” Apologies, for late mention/previous omission. Our attorneys can work out whatever rights to that verse of the song he wants.
Pfft. Laughable.
Most of the now-local real hippies, ya’know — the back to landers, the diaspora who headed north from the Bay Area and elsewhere in ‘60’s and 70’s — have prolly got the jab (and not just cuz their in their 60’s into their 80’s now).
Most of today’s wann-b-hippy crowd are mutts: a mix of wutever suits them from goot list of ‘ol hippy attributes, two guns, three cars each, four iPhone power cords to stay plugged in (heh).
Today 82 cases out of 441 tests,
18.6% positivity rate.
Yesterday 31out of 208,
14.9% positivity rate.
It still a month and a half after the first shot until you’re considered fully vaccinated.
Good luck out there
It’s 2weeks.
2 weeks after the second shot, not the first. I believe their point is that even if you decide to get vaccinated today, you’re not protected for a month and a half, and on a larger scale, the numbers we see are going to reflect that.
Here you go Bushytails,
the 16% thing from Forbes
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jvchamary/202/7/29/pfizer-covid-19-coronavirus-vaccine-effective-delta-variant/?sh=4546d7b714a0
They said after the FIRST shot, which is correct.
after 10 weeks its 50% effective…. 10 weeks
and after that? Better go back to the dope man or they gonna take your slave papers….
OR? the ferrets died for a reason, and y’all have a couple years left.
Hippies wouldn’t have taken this… man, we are some cowards. Dont worship money. Worship God. The money will come if its his will.
Also, they cant fire you for not taking a science experiment shot… Thats nuremberg code. The mandates are unlawful and your employer knows it.
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Yup, getting vaxxed tomorrow will have zero impact on this wave. Just gotta ride it out with whatever you want to do.
You know what? Go ahead and lock it all back down. I enjoyed no traffic and no lines at the stores. I enjoyed not having to go to any government buildings to pay their bills, it was nice.
Except for all those people in the public sector getting a paycheck while the
Private gets annihilated.
I can’t wait for all those pension funds invested In China, to zero out…see how comfortable yall are with the government cheese.
I’m actually finding normally old stupid Newsweek, which couldn’t keep up with still loser Time Magazine, to have some surprisingly decent, and readable, info-crunch articles on delta covid. All online now – no more paper rag.
Seemingly relevant and fairly current data interspersed with commentary from, brace yerself, actual scientists on the front lines. Read a few articles so far, to break up CDC, WHO, EU blah-blah, and when scientific papers (scientific writing = ugh) start to drive me mental.
Anyone else starting to notice stuff and things or is it just me?
Like how this shit was not nearly as rampant until AFTER vaccination began en masse.
Vaccine effectiveness is dipping far below the 40 percentile across the board. Half of Humboldt county residents are “vaccinated”. Nobody is speaking about natural immunity at all as a line of defense. Everyone locally reporting on the subject of Covid are leaving out the death statistics. You have a .039% chance of death in Humboldt currently. That data is likely grossly inaccurate too. Most likely by 80%+. Technology has been the greatest tool for the ancient divide and conquer technique.
Damn, you’re all gonna die gasping for breath as Trump counts his coin from investments made in the companies we funded for operation Warp Speed. And so many people say Donald J Trump is stupid!
He has set himself up so that he wins whether the vaccines work or not! In the meantime, Biden still slidin’, Pelosi is still hideous, Schumer is still a filthy creep and Harris is as clueless as always.
But none of them give a flying fuck about any of you.
namer’s select market holdings are skyrocketing off VAXBOT politics—while he, himself, remains resolutely Swedish.
But namer still very much likes some of the vaxxer people women.
Now let us stop the debate as NBC NIGHTLY NEWS had Lester Holt report that the PFIZER VACCINE IS NOW APPROVED BY THE FDA!! I am glad since that is the one I had! Now how many of you will get the vaccine is the question? We will keep fighting this virus until you do vaccinate because each variant will become smarter, more complex and harder to fight against or until you anti vaxer’s die which is not what I want! I want us all to be doing what we used to do! Have fun in good weather! Not worrying about kids in hospitals! Choose life!
PFE remains pretty sluggish, though.
Need more VAXBOTS.
Kids in hospitals, how many kids in America have been hospitalized from having covid? 10000 ? Probably not , kids in hospitals, that cracks me up. I gotta get me one of them lotto tickets , I now see why the jackpot is so high, cause the crackpots buying them can’t figure out the odds.
No approval yet, and who cares. Just more misinterpretation, you need to listen to those soap opera’s very carefully.
Link please. I haven’t found where he said FDA approved.
Its not true. I did wonder though, if one of these injections does get approved, will the EUA still stand for the others? Who would take the experimental ones if there was an approved one?
And if they move to mandate the approved one for gov workers, military, etc… does that mean everyone else will just have to wait?
Jk, its obvious everyone interested has gotten their shots. Still interesting to see how things change if one does get approved
Does wearing a mask around your neck count?
Melesa,
Thanks for the cutting edge info.
That’s cool.
As far as the approval, the booster must be getting closer to reality.
It would look funny if the booster rolled out before the original jab approval.
After the report on waning efficacy, I’m not sure what I think about the approval.
On the one hand it doesn’t surprise me,
based on the level of complicity and collaboration already on display.
I think it is an obvious rubber-stamp.
And then part of me is surprised, the part that still trusts that the FDA is
Genuine and totally legit, and actually is on the people’s side. But what choice do they have?
I know one thing, the approval it doesn’t change the vaccine’s makeup. It’s still totally the same.
I’m still not sure what to think about it.
Covid19 is real. If a person decides to get the jabs, should they wait and get the Delta booster, or do we now have to take all 3?
Mus’ haffi tek all a dem jabs, dem!!!
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Jah Jah provide the—whuh, mi seh—licensing agreements, dem, ana di racketeer-influenced corrupt organization for I & I Idren to be de groupies for all de mos revere Babylonian tyrants inna dem tent pon rasclot dedda river festival, yu no seh?
Bless up, needle inna yu arm! Southern Humboldt massive, yu large!
*As always, this is not a recommendation to sell your soul for namer to get rich off your sheepish wanderings. Nor is it an implication that Rod Deal, et al. would have a comment pon di matter involving a wackass/priceless recording—but that would fucking be funnier than most you kids could ever know.
Bless up! 💉🤣
I think melesa misunderstood whatever they saw. I can’t find anything about vaccine approval and you know that shit would be hard to miss. Boosters will likely come under EUA as well. I’m skeptical that fda will approve at all after Pfizer unblinded their clinical trial and offered jib jabs to the placebo group against the fdas wishes.
But I don’t have that much faith in the regulators. I’m sure Mr Gottleib has let his replacement at the fda know how appreciative Pfizer is to be able to hire the expertise of such esteemed civil servants once their tenure is up.
“But the F.D.A.’s unofficial deadline is Labor Day or sooner, according to multiple people familiar with the plan.” https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/03/us/politics/pfizer-vaccine-approval.html
Not that it ever mattered to anti gov or anti vaxxers. It was always just a fake out with them making noises about “experimental” anything. They used the word to cast doubt without ever thinking it was important. And that tells a lot about the dishonesty of their criticism in general.
So melesa is confused. It wasn’t approved last night. There is an unofficial goal of approval by a future date.
And you’re right, these injections aren’t experimental anymore. They stopped the experiment a couple months ago!
AO,
It was the Gov. and the vax companies that labeled the jab experimental, not the un jabbed.
Just because you don’t want to understand the meaning of the word, doesn’t change the meaning.
But how dare people actually believe that experimental means ,…um, experimental.
I get it that in your world it depends on what the meaning of is, is.
FDA is knuckling under to WH pressure so President Sippy Cup can mandate jabs for the military…and more…
If people really want to stop the variant parade they need to stop international (or perhaps all) air travel without a serious quarantine for arrivals. The jet setters (and gain of function researchers?) are far more to blame for where we are today than the un-vaccinated.
BTW, masks do work (though they are not perfect). The ongoing resistance of many people to wearing a mask in public has always struck me as the most petty, pointless and pretend expression of “freedom” imaginable.
Wearing mask sucks ass. Get fucking vaccinated. I’m vaccinated and I will not wear a mask again period. No one is going to enforce this new order. Why should the people that are vaccinated have to go backwards to protect the fucking stupid morons who are not. I don’t give a fuck about them. If I’m asym and spread it to you and you get sick because your not vaccinated then too bad for you. It’s called thinning the heard. Time for the cull to go anyway.
And if you get COVID and pass it to someone vaccinated? Not many of those vaccinated die but it does happen.
Kym, have you applied the same logic to influenza in the past? If not, why not? Is there a certain level of mortality at which point an infectious disease receives this sort of treatment? What is that line? Who determins it?
the CDC decides property rights now… they decide everything. We are slaves.
PS: getting vaccinated just means you are now a lifelong slave of big Pharma….
Id rather be hooked on crack
🤔Yep, once you get the jab, you are on the leash.🧐
That is one of the easy answers that anti vaxxers dismiss. Surely when flu first looms large on public awareness, it got lots of attention because it is full of unknowns. But over the years of chronic seasonal flu, authorities and the public got used to it. Doctors and hospitals have plans of attack, treatments and prevention available. And enough people have been exposed to it over their lifetimes that many more have some resistance to it.
But covid had a huge number of unknowns last year. It is better understood now but there are still a lot of unknowns. No one knows what the next turn will be. Beside, being new, not many had any innate defenses. So it went through the populace like fat through a goose. A lot of people died at the beginning. And, thanks to vaccines, most Americans had little experience with epidemics. There is nothing sinister about the reactions. However anti vaxxers like to spin their conspiracies.
AO,
Your quote “It is better understood now but there are still a lot of unknowns. No one knows what the next turn will be”
Then you go on to pretend YOU know what the next turn will be, what people think, why they think what they do, what their heart and intentions are, and discredit their sources.
My question is, who gives you the right to sit in judgement of what, how and why people believe as they do.
The people who question the jab have just as much right to do so, as you do.
Your declarations are similar to Hillary Clinton declaring everyone who didn’t vote for her is deplorable, a statement that said much more about her, than the people she spoke about.
You do know In Ca. the groups that are the least Jabbed are the Black communities and then the Hispanic. Right?
Her replies have gotten more and more rote and less and less relevant over the weeks. Its been sad to watch. Just a month or so ago she was one of the more interesting posters.
Now she’s busy calling cdc statistics “antivax lies” while pretending that the flu is totally understood…by the cdc.
So auntie, whats the number for you? At what point does a disease warrant a multi-year medical emergency? 0.2%? 0.25%? Less than that?
Bad flu seasons carry an ifr that can creep north of 0.1%, but that includes multiple viruses usually.
Either way, pinning down this number as a society seems wise so we can all operate on the same expectations as far as disease response goes
People die everyday. I did my part. I distanced I locked down I masked hell
I even washed my damn hands. Then I got vaccinated. Now I’m done with Covid. Get vaccinated.
Bummer your vaccine sucks. Admit it and quit trying to force crappy medicine on us. If the small pox or polio vaccine were as safe and effective as the Covid jabs we would still have polio and small pox circulating to this day! Why don’t y’all just admit you took a crap shot and warn the rest of us away from it instead of trying to con us into taking it? Do you want us all to be in the same boat as far as potential side effects?
What are these? Social justice warrior equity jabs?
Gain of function research, class 4 bio weepon labs and lack of transparency, and inadequate accountability
is to blame for moving goalposts, on top of moving our economy off shore.
So much kicking can down the road.
“Far easier to kill a million, than to control a million ”
Trust is broken, please don’t preach to me about skewed results, patented technology, manufactured crisis and an elite who wants China style control.
It’s all upside down and we need to take care of our own lives b4 we can of others what we are unable to do for ourselves.
The current political climate is that any person from anywhere else (on a tourist visa or illegally crossing the border- doesn’t matter) is of more importance than the citizen working and paying taxes.
At least you are capable of grasping that. It shows you have slightly tighter grip on reality than most of the other rabid jabbers on here.
Maybe we should look at the 1.1 MILLION illegal border crossings so far this year. Pretty sure most of them didn’t get out of the Rio Grande dripping wet and head straight to the testing facility.
You mean the 1.1 million illegal immigrants caught illegally crossing the border. Who knows how many have made it through without being caught…
Do you notice the jabbers won’t talk about that, Nope not a peep.
It doesn’t fit in their blame game.
Any reports on how many of them are dying.
Are they dying.
If so how many?
If not why not?
Der spredin sikness and stealin yer jobs…
So only American citizens can spread Covid?
All other countries are immune?
yeah sure.
Ask FOX, they have all your answers.
Yeah, and they even spread it to the UK and 120 plus other countries. Those illegals sure get around.
So the illegal un vaxxed are just fine with you. I thought so.
Some elevators skip a few floors.
maybe some actual information may help you? the amount of crossing this year is only about 20% more than 2019. and in 2019, during trump, most hiked the desert to avoid being caught, so the real numbers during trump are under reported. meanwhile, biden hasn’t changed anything law wise regarding the border.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters
Well, Trump must have handed out all those Biden let us in shirts. Silly Trump.
And I guess Trump was driving the car with the 30 immigrants that crashed this morning and killed 10.
Is there anything you can’t blame Trump for?
do you really think biden handed out those tee shirts that were only aired on FOX news? I would assume the FOX news team handed them out right before they filmed it. the political games played by Murdoch have long term devastating affects worldwide.
Trump is a narcissist, but that has nothing to do with Don Lemon stabbing Chris Cuomo in the back last night on the Cuomo News Network….move over Hillary.
Seems Cuomo is turning out to be worse than Avanatti.
What were you sayin about FOX?
What does Trump being a narcissist have to do with lemon and cuomo?
Oh my, everyone knows Fox News isn’t news, they admitted it themselves. We can thank them for prolonging the epidemic and fomenting hate for immigrants.
And what’s the Biden soppy cup bullshit? Trump can’t even lift a glass to his mouth with one hand, we’ve all seen the bizarre film footage. Fox News is a white Nationalist propaganda outlet, face it. The thrust of the illegal immigrant horror pushed there is white people worried about their upcoming loss of predominance. Dumbass Newt even said so.
So sad, too bad, white folks are going to be the minority within 20 years and that scares the crap out of white Nationalists.
Fear mongering is ALL Fox News is capable of and it works. Lotta suckers out there lapping it up. Yum yum.
“(T)hey admitted it themselves…”
You’re referencing the previously established Rachel Maddow defense, you know that, right?
I have no reason to defend FOX. To bad you can admit the Cuomo bro hoax, and Dons flip flop. Biden has supported Racists for 50 years.
As to the rest of your statement, I hope your heart doesn’t look like your mouth sounds.
Another thing I haven’t figured out yet is how come I don’t see stacks of homeless on the street dead, is it because they all showed up at the vacs clinic? I have yet to see one with a mask, I’m fairly sure that as a whole the homeless population isn’t in the best of health. Be my guess that meth and heroin may be the wonder drug !
If you ingest enough meth and heroin and wash it all down with enough 211’s your body becomes too toxic for Covid to survive.
You’re right, masks do work! According to clinical studies using n95 masks in a sterile environment, on synthetic respiratory systems they are effective at blocking up to 65% of aerosol particulates. We will ignore the fact that the actual virus particles are 150,000 times smaller than aerosol particulates. And virtually no citizens are actually using n95 masks. Or that even the CDC recommends that after touching your mask one time it needs to either be sterilized or disposed of. Also in a randomized studies conducted in Germany they found a 1.8% infection difference between people who were asked to wear masks as opposed to those who were asked not to wear masks. I would leave links to these peer reviewed studies but then my post would be taken down.
Masks make little difference, particularly if they are not n95s. So this is typical govt. preaching to justify its existence. Almost everyone who is going to get the vaccine has been vaccinated so the reality is this virus and its mutations will simply run it’s natural course. If you want to be as safe as possible, limit your social contact.
All this fear.. according to the Humboldt County government controlled website
Population: 135,558
Positive test results: 5,351 or 3.94% of population.
Confirmed deaths: 52 or 1% of confirmed positive cases, or .039% of population.
Number of people hospitalized: 240 or 4.48% of positive cases, or .177% of overall population.
Total deaths of people under the age of 60: 4.
So as of right now in Humboldt county if you’re under the age of 60, the chances of you dying from covid is. .0029% this number drastically reduces to somewhere around the .000096% range if you’ve either been vaccinated or have already caught covid and recovered from it….
That’s saying that people who never gets in car will never have a car accident. Well, duh. Most people will sooner or later get infected just as sooner or later most people get in a car. The real issue is what happens then.
Actually, with the likelihood that the same people get multiple tests, the percentage of people being tested is much smaller than 4%. So the confirmed deaths are likely higher a percentage of the population than you allege. So far the confirmed death rate is about 1.5% in California. The reality is that the rate is lower as many people have covid without being tested. The accepted rate is roughly about 1% considering that. So, once everyone as been infected, there could be over 1,000 deaths here. So far, with the usual Humboldt County time lag, it probably will not get that high. Because treatment is getting better all the time as medicine gets experienced.. Even so, I’d simply rather not get sick.
Driving cars is not contagious the virus is. I made the distinction of age groups, I said anybody below the age of 60. I didn’t allege anything…. Those are mathematical percentages based on the County’s own numbers. And I made the comparison against people with positive cases of covid and the entire population, so I’m not trying to skew the percentage in any way shape or form. That is the percentage as of right now… This kind of attitude is directly leading to vaccine hesitancy… People like you say trust the science, trust the numbers. BUT when you’re actually presented with the numbers you say I’m arbitrarily making them up and to just do what you tell me to because….
According to the cdc, the expected death rate from infection is approximately 0.3 – 0.33%.
Get your facts straight auntie
That is a lie. The vast majority of people on this planet will not come across Covid. Just like with every pandemic. 8 billion people and the vast majority will not even cross paths with Covid. As of this date the total recorded amount of cases of Covid is 200 million worldwide. By the time this is over, over 7 billion people won’t have even crossed paths with it.
Yes exactly! The numbers are staggering! There is absolutely no reason why even a SINGLE person should lose their life over this preventable disease. Please everyone do your part, wear your masks at all times, get vaccinated and get the booster shots as soon as they’re available! Do not be selfish, this is not about you! This is about taking care of your community! We need to follow the rules and accept the new normal of living!
Do none of the reasons that people die of all the other preventable diseases all the time not count for covid?
🤔🧐
“Get vaccinated, and get the booster shots as soon as they’re available! Don’t be selfish, this is not about you”.
🧐🤔
So let’s see, get vaccinated, AND get the boosters, (before others are even vaccinated).
I think I will just let someone else get vaccinated before me, instead of me wanting MINE FIRST. AND the booster FIRST.
Is that being so selfish?😁
That’s what I used to think, too.
But, what we have overlooked is the fact that the total population of “Any Aged” Humboldt, and the total “Any Aged Under 60”
population of Humboldt is very different.
I will estimate 75% of the population of Humboldt is under 60.
101,668.
Now your figure becomes .0039%, instead of .0029%, if 75% is close.
Vaccination fatalities run .0018%.
Two jab doses becomes .0036%
The risk is similar.
But there is more to consider.
This is for comparison only.
Each individual must carefully consider their situation, as there are infinite variables.
My statements are not intended to encourage or discourage the jabs.
There is no, one size fits all, cookie cutter approach, type answer.
Everyone’s situation is different.
God bless.
I checked, 75% of Humboldt County population is under 60.
Exactly 75%, at least that is what the census info says.
Lucky guess.
Folks…….I’m an old man but it sure seems to me that FREEDOM in it’s most seminal form is the really the only one true answer. We need to be free to chose to not wear a mask, to not get the shot and to accept it as a personal choice. The numbers be dammed, humans don’t live forever, death is a bitch but we’ve all got to face it some point. The fact is that those that got the shot are just as capable of carrying it and infecting others as those that didn’t. That is a clear and simple truth. So if you want to mask up and stay home, be my guest but please let other people live life if they chose. It is my belief that we would have already gotten past this if we’d all just been ok with choice and taken care of ourselves. It would have been a shit ton cheaper too. There just seems to be a lot of folks out there that have a hard time dealing with death and it’s inevitability. Healthy people don’t die from this crap….but the compromised do. If you’re compromised act accordingly if you’re not act accordingly. COVID and the reaction of our health professionals, gov’t officials and people has lead me to think we’re a lot closer to the shit hitting that fan than I previously thought. Stay safe and always be prepared.
Would you be pleased if your doctor stayed home to be safe? Or the firemen? Or grocery workers? Just so you could choose not to wear a mask? Seems a disproportionate demand that those who want to avoid infection have to stay home so that those who object don’t have to wear a face mask.
The only way to avoid the virus is to stay away from people. And even that is no certainty considering a large number of wild animals are now testing positive who had no human interaction.
You don’t mind pushing masks, jabs, and staying home for everyone else though, I thought you said masks were no big deal.
I suspect the immigrants and homeless have been buying groceries the whole year and a half.
I would find a different doctor, hire new firemen, and hire new grocery workers. There’s plenty of people who aren’t terrified and are plenty comfortable with either the safety and efficacy of the injections or with their odds of confronting the virus naturally. Just look around you at how people behaved once the state stopped forcing them to act afraid of this virus. Not many masks then, and not many people avoiding busy places.
That was my observation when I was in Laytonville last Monday.
People seemed comfortable with each other. About 1/4 masked.
Enjoying talking to faces instead of Bots. But still keeping respectable distances.
Yep, and its not hard to find businesses that will enforce masking if that is important to you. I’m sure many of our local stores would be happy to accommodate mask lovers with special fully masked hours as well. The impulse to insist that everyone make the same choices you do is a dangerous impulse
hopefully not according to the PCR tests that we have all known to be giving ridiculous amounts of false positives this entire time
it puts the needle under its skin or else it gets the mask again oh the science of the Lambs is beautiful Hannibal fauci is such a hero and good representation of our best and brightest
this whole thing is a false flag enjoy your great reset ladies and gentlemen and enjoy fighting each other especially about whose psychologically superior to the other based on who licks the boots of either side of the Zionist Bolsheviks
I wonder how many have made themselves sick from fear.
18 months of it 24/7 has to take a toll.
A lot, suicide, depression and alcohol and drug abuse has all gone through the roof.
Moderna says you need a booster before winter.
WHO says you can’t have one until the world gets the old jabs, cause of inequity.
WHO says those that want boosters are greedy.
Yep, more chaos and confusion from the experts.
Of course, you believe the experts, right.
Hear that jabbers, you’re greedy.
As opposed to anti vaxxers who are so generously willing to spread disease? To everyone regardless of age, sex or national origin.? Yup. There’s great equality in that.
You don’t have to be vaccinated to have immunities. All Studies have shown natural immunity has a 3% higher effectiveness rate then the vaccine. Yet natural immunities are never discussed in state or federal mandates.
Acquired immunities might be the term you are referring to.
Respectfully.
Also, they might last allot longer than any officials will admit to.
AO
Are you arguing with WHO?
But, But by your own words,they are experts.
Well, except when they don’t agree with you.
“anti vaxxer” don’t spread anything more than anyone else.
Looks like the preventing death part isn’t working so good. 60% of recent deaths in Sonoma were 100% vaccinated .
https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/news/sonoma-county-reported-3-more-covid-19-deaths-bringing-july-spike-to-14/
(2/3 deaths; See how easy it is to skew the data )
Still
3 dead
2 were vaxxed.
Ima stay on team No Jab.
psst
auntie
the vaccinated are getting and spreading Covid…see Israel and the east coast right now~
Furies, Yer playing fast and loose, thus lame, with that post
🤔🧐Actually, the CDC, and Walensky finally admitted it today. Finally, today.
Better late than never.
It’s about time, don’t you think?
Now, how long do you think it will be before everyone gets the message and accepts it?🤔
Context means a lot. If what Furies said does not include the rate or degree the unvaxxed spread, it’s value is limited and can get increasingly distorted if an unwitting soul piles on and and advances with an additional tangent.
🤔🧐Looks like it could be a long, long, time.
Maybe never.🧐🤔
Yeah I think there’s a saying that goes you have a right to choose that might stand for something else though LOL there’s another nine words that are the scariest I’m from the government and I’m here to help Ronald Reagan
Yes acquired naturally, versus acquired by a vaccine. Personally I would think both forms of immunities would be “acquired” immunities considering we’re not born with them;>)
this photo always reminds me of Tiffany Dover.
Where’s Tiffany Dover?
I am not trying to cross you.
Or disagree.
It’s just that I have used the term natural immunity to mean previously exposed, but that is acquired immunity.
Natural immunity would be innate,
we would be born with it.
Atlas may have been right, in a way.
I felt, early on, that a controlled minimum exposure, for all those deemed healthy enough, might have limited the potential for long term damage.
Hind sight is 20/20, but it could have been done much sooner, way before
jabs rolled out, and the variant we would have been exposed to, maybe wasn’t as bad as Delta. It could have been considered.
The thing that may may not be so apparent to everyone, is that Delta’s
Incubation period is more like 2 days as opposed to 5-7 days.
It’s traveling faster.
Not a worse virus, necessarily, but definitely more prolific.
But that should mean it will be over quicker, too.
Sweden is our ongoing control in that question. As it happens, i just checked in on them today. They are sitting near average for death rate globally, a little higher than average for Europe. However their death rate is tending in the opposite direction of Europe and the global average (they’re going down, most others are going up). Another however is that rate of illness is rising faster than average so another death wave could be incoming.
The big unknown data will have to wait a few years when we.can assess financial and mental health and child development trends.
Of course, even with all the data people will still argue for whatever policy matches their relative appraisal of the risk from the virus. Some would sacrifice much for an Australian style zero case policy enforced by hard lockdowns.
Me personally, if take slightly above average death rates in exchange for high performance in the mental health and child development arenas. That’s just me though.
Reuters has a cool tool I just found where you can look at specific countries and see where their metrics sit compared to the world or their continent. Cool for people who like data visualizations
Guess, Delta is definitely a worse virus (but not the worst if Lambda, lota, etc get running strong in States). If you wanna debate degree of worse, Delta, I’ll pass (be a yawner for me and not forward discussion).
All about controlling the American People. CDC don’t have a clue what there doing.
Get vaccinated you do it. And you Democrats then turn and want more.
SCREW YOUR MANDATE
Hmm, looks like you yer trump-red is really finally showing, heh.
People are so concerned about the Delta and Lambda variants that they’re overlooking the Bofa and Ligma variants.
Today (maybe old news by now):
“Experts suggest the U.S. needs a 90% vaccination rate to reach herd immunity, given delta’s keen ability to spread. If that doesn’t happen, Fauci told McClatchy D.C. on Wednesday, the virus will keep spreading through the fall and winter — giving it “ample chance” to develop another, worse variant.”
“There’s evidence that the surge is motivating people to get vaccinated. Louisiana, which has the highest rate of Covid cases per capita, saw the number of people getting vaccinated quadruple in recent weeks.”
Don’t get hung up on source or link. It’s from mainstream rag, ok.
Look, some of ya:
Louisiana, Red State. QUADRUPLE increase in folks vaxxing. And the Governor of Alabama (Red State), for example; couple weeks ago Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey (Repub) issued an impassioned plea for residents of her state to get vaccinated against Covid-19, arguing it was “time to start blaming the unvaccinated folks“. Heavy handed? I dunno, but does it work? Yes. So some southern state holdouts are sure starting to pour into vax clinics. Thaz right, the ‘ol GOP south has gotten its collective Red Butt in gear. Little late in some ways, but every little bit can help.
It’s NOT rocket science. Consensus is broad and deep enough: the better vaxxes help enough, and enough folks helping those vaxxes help enough can slow variant development and spread.
Peanut gallery says …
No thank you. I’ll take my chances of a 97% survival rate without a vaccine.
50 cases, 438 tests 11.4% positivity today.
1 death, in their 50’s.