Mendocino Coast Cafe Owner Doubles Down on Pandemic Defiance Charging Customers $5 to Wear a Mask

Fiddleheads, a Mendocino restaurant encourages patrons not to wear a mask in their cafe. [All photographs provided by Chris Castleman]

Fiddleheads, a Mendocino restaurant encourages patrons not to wear a mask in their cafe. [All photographs provided by Chris Castleman]


Mendocino County is known for its coastlines, cannabis, redwoods, rivers, and now a funky little diner called Fiddleheads. The corner cafe in the seaside town of Mendocino has become famous, some would say infamous, for the owner’s defiance of pandemic protocols. Owner Chris Castleman’s particular brand of rabble-rousing and civil disobedience has been featured in the San Francisco Chronicle, The Hill, and Fox News and has struck a nerve in a nation feeling the tensions of the COVID-19 pandemic.

In the Spring of 2020, Castleman faced fines and citations from Mendocino County regarding masking protocols. In late March 2021, Castleman began his campaign of challenging pandemic protocols by offering a 50% discount to any patron that threw away their facial covering when they entered his restaurant.

The recent media frenzy arose when he doubled down on his defiance by asking patrons who choose to wear a mask to pay a fee of $5.00 to do so. Restaurant policy also dictates that anyone who is bragging about being vaccinated is charged $5.00 as well. The Guardian published an article entitled “‘Waiting to Happen’: the California region where masks are taboo- and cases are rising” examining the rise in COVID-19 cases in Northern California and the cultural trends compelling the rise. Writer Erin McCormick uses Castleman’s Fiddleheads as emblematic of a region that she describes as “one of the most forceful in its pushback against measures such as masks, business restrictions, and vaccine mandates.” Castleman characterized the policies he has enacted in his restaurant as a form of civil disobedience. At the heart of his protest is his concern for the collateral damage from COVID-19 lockdowns including spikes in child abuse, domestic abuse, suicides, and overdoses

Sign in Fiddleheads

Sign hanging in Fiddleheads

Regarding the $5.00 charge for wearing a mask or bragging about being vaccinated, Castleman said all revenue generated is being donated to various charities that support the collateral damage of lockdown that he is concerned about such as domestic violence and child abuse charities.

As one could imagine, Castleman’s tactics have inflamed those concerned with the spread of COVID-19 and gained the respect of the COVID-19 skeptics. Mendocino County Public Health Officer Doctor Andy Coren emphasized that despite Castleman’s restaurant rules, masking is the most accessible, effective, and non-pharmacological intervention available. 

He emphasized that Mendocino County businesses and residents are “in favor of masking.” Dr. Coren expressed concern that Castleman’s coverage in the national and international news could disrupt Mendocino County’s fight against COVID-19. “The more we talk about Castleman, the more attention he gets and he becomes a leader of his ilk,” Dr. Coren explained. “That is one of the hazards of your profession,” he said, referring to the task of reporting the news.  Castleman, however, said since the signs have gone up regarding the mask tax and vaccine-talk fee, “we’ve had the least amount of tension in the room.”

He added, “No one is getting upset. There are like-minded people.” Castleman explained, “The signs are a pretty big middle finger to my community and half of America and it keeps them out.” 

Regarding his cafe’s customer retention in the midst of his defiance, Castleman recognized that many will hold a grudge against him forever. “I’ve talked to people who don’t want to be seen in my café so they won’t be harassed about it,” he told us.

Castleman’s restaurant initially came to the public’s attention when he organized a GoFundMe in June 2020 to help him “hire a lawyer to define our right to stay open and serve our customers.” The GoFundMe characterized Mendocino County’s attempts to enforce pandemic protocols as “3 months of attacks from a small group of activist/bullies and overreaching politicians.”

As the summer dragged on, Castleman chose to close up shop and decided when he came back, he would come back stronger “with a more assertive message.” He traveled around the United States. He said he felt unsafe in Mendocino where people were screaming at his customers and employees, his phone was ringing off the hook, someone rubbed dog feces on his windows, and he was even assaulted by someone in his restaurant. The closure of Fiddleheads and his subsequent travels, Castleman pointed out, were during the Fall/Winter 2020 when cases were surging.

When he reopened in February 2021, Castleman said “we were met with strong community resistance.” Castleman said COVID lockdowns have resulted in a net loss of approximately $400,000 and compromised his small business that had become his life and energy. His recent pandemic defiance has appealed to a COVID-skeptic crowd that have become regulars of the café, but Castleman said that could never make up for the profits lost due to COVID-19. 

The coverage has prompted some out-of-towners to drive upwards of five hours to visit Castleman’s Fiddleheads, he explained. Castleman said these sorts of customers do not make up for the losses his restaurant has endured. When asked what it has been like to receive national media attention, Castleman said, “It’s a blessing.” The coverage has resulted in Castleman being “flooded with hate and my phone is ringing off the hook” and, conversely, “I’m getting a lot of support, too.” Ultimately, Castleman said he would rather the attention be off of him so society could begin to examine “the collateral damage of lockdowns.”

Castleman, true to his pugnacious self, said he decided to embark on his pandemic defiance campaign after reading a statement  from Mendocino County’s 5th District Supervisor Ted Williams when he remarked, “Imagine the good he could do with that energy.” When Castleman read Williams’ words, he simply said, “I’ll take him up on that.”

A business nearby Fiddleheads that preferred to remain anonymous said they try to avoid Castleman because of his “bad reputation.” They said their business cooperates with masking and the pandemic protocols and called Castleman’s approach, “kind of crazy.” Board Director of the Mendocino Coast Chamber of Commerce Ray Alarcon said his body encourages all member businesses to comply with county pandemic protocols. He said that the chamber has partnered with community organizations to distribute masks and sanitizer to interested patrons.  As to the status of Mendocino County’s exploration of Fiddleheads, Mendocino County’s Code Enforcement Supervisor John Burkes told us his department continues to investigate with no specific updates at this time.

UPDATE 7:35 a.m.: Chris Castleman contacted us and wanted to clarify comments regarding the “middle finger” at his community. He wants to emphasize he understand that his actions at Fiddleheads are perceived negatively by many and come with a price, “but that is a price I am willing to pay to stand for something I believe in and get a (national) conversation around the negative side effects of these government restrictions.”

He further clarified that he does not take pleasure in giving the metaphorical “middle finger” to his community, but said “I know that sometimes you have to think outside the box and be a little confrontational to get a conversation started.”

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Emptyheads
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Emptyheads
5 years ago

What an inconsiderate crybaby

Muddy Black Dodge
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Muddy Black Dodge
5 years ago
Reply to  Emptyheads

Lame. Just lame.

I second that, what an inconsiderate crybaby…

DC-10
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DC-10
5 years ago

“The more we talk about Castleman, the more attention he gets and he becomes a leader of his ilk,” Dr. Coren explained as the underlying implication of manipulating the media by a government official would be to the benefit of society.

Most relevant thing I saw in the article. Explosive and telling..

Yep, Mendo
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Yep, Mendo
5 years ago
Reply to  Emptyheads

He’s just an attention whore, and it may get him some publicity… but in the long run he’ll just be that, an attention seeking jerk with a following of jerks… talk about a legacy

Ramsey Gordon
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Ramsey Gordon
5 years ago
Reply to  Emptyheads

I’ve eaten there once…

Call me crazy
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Call me crazy
5 years ago

“No shirt, no shoes, no service.”

https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php

Justin Trudeau admitted that he bought off the media in Canada.

https://youtu.be/K69DWwntf9o

Take note, people, the management class is running circles around your neck.

Mind your own business, and have business to mind.
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Mind your own business, and have business to mind.
5 years ago

The maskies and jab-obsessed need to get over themselves.

Unless you’re my doctor it’s none of your fucking business whether I’ve submitted to an elective, EXPERIMENTAL injection.

Cue:
All the virtue signaling, hypnotized, busy-bodies .

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
5 years ago

Just so you are aware, you were just “virtue-signaling” yourself. As is Castleman.

Muddy Black Dodge
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Muddy Black Dodge
5 years ago

It’s not about you, it’s about the greater good for humanity, you probably were pissed off when you were told there’s no more smoking in restaurants, that you had to wear a seatbelt and that the speed limit on most highways is something that you have to follow…

Meee
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Meee
5 years ago

The greater good….many a dictater has utterd the same words.

The saying freedom is not free has many forms. The right to make your own decision not have the govenment tell me how to live means i can choose to weare a mask or not. It means i can choose to go out and travel or not.

If masks work so well why do they not use them in bio labs insted of respirators?

Also masks have a down side to many. If you have allergies to dust mites your allergin is right in your face all the time. Combine that with copd or asthma and the mask is not harmless. Learn to think on your own insted of drink the govt cool aid.

Jim Brickley
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Jim Brickley
5 years ago

There’s also those helmet laws.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
5 years ago
Reply to  Jim Brickley

Are you comparing helmet LAWS with mask MANDATES? ?

Cranky Old Lady
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Cranky Old Lady
5 years ago

I don’t care about your vax status. I don’t even care if you don’t wear a face mask. BUT… don’t belittle those who have gotten their vaccines and choose to continue to wear masks. It’s not affecting you. It’s not hurting you. And by that, when June 15th comes and all mandates are lifted, no one has a right to question anyone. However, be aware that businesses CAN ask their patrons to mask up and if they do, either trade somewhere else or respectfully comply. If everyone would just take a step back along with a deep breath, we wouldn’t have half the problems we do.

Alan King
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Alan King
5 years ago

Businesses can NOT lawfully mandate ANY policy that violates your rights. Any private business open to the public for commerce is considered a “public accommodation” and is subject to the laws thereof. This includes the wearing or not wearing of hats, masks, religious garb, etc. Denying commercial access for NOT wearing a mask is prohibited by law. Mandates by Executive branch officials are NOT law and CANNOT be lawfully enforced. Any “law” passed by the legislative branch that violates your God given rights is unlawful and can be ignored. Man-made “laws” that violate Natural Law are not law. All beginning law students used to be required to read “The Law” by Frédéric Bastian. It needs to be read and understood by ALL to preserve our natural rights.

Data
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Data
5 years ago

Scientists in Canada claim research proves your wrong – Pfizer’s research data clearly identifies a “shedding” process of the spike proteins, (a known toxin) and therefore the vaccinated can have a negative affect on the unvaccinated. During trials they recommended vaccinated men stay away from breast-feeding women.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/covid-vaccine-spike-protein-travels-from-injection-site-organ-damage/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=9b0b9b9c-6cf1-4252-b15f-4b5da9fb8e42

Don Mata
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Don Mata
5 years ago

WELL said Cranky!!!!

Charlie
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Charlie
5 years ago

A damn good reason to eat somewhere else! Boycott idiocy!

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
5 years ago

At the heart of his protest is his concern for the collateral damage from COVID-19 lockdowns including spikes inchild abuse, domestic abuse,suicides, and overdoses.

@ Matt, Did you ask Castleman if he has a strong history (or any history) of support and donations pre-Covid to groups assisting child abuse victims, abuse victims and overdose victims…..

What does that have to do with anything?
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What does that have to do with anything?
5 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

why?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
5 years ago

All the issues Chris said he is “concerned” about existed pre-Covid.

If he doesn’t have demonstrable proof of ever having helped those causes before, than his excuse for fighting pandemic-measures is even thinner than it is now.

Chris Castleman
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5 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Yes Brian, let’s investigate my lifetime charitable donations. We should start by forming a Fiddleheads Oversight Committee with a $10,000 operations budget. Since we can’t fund it with coronavirus fines (because none have been paid to date) we should divert funds from other parts of the county budget, like mental health services for instance. This is probably the best use of our time and money.

Steve Koch
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Steve Koch
5 years ago

I admire your courage and energy to fight for what you believe in.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve Koch

Second that. ?

VMG
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VMG
5 years ago

I don’t know which is more comical, your damned amusing sign, or the energy you may invest in attempting to converse with the nut-job commentators you will find on this blog!

We don’t normally traipse over your way, but, I would be proud to drag my immunized butt into your establishment, and enjoy a cheeseburger…

Don’t take anyone’s statements too personally, and consider the source…

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
5 years ago

Or, you could simply volunteer to post a pre 2020 donation receipt to a charity involving those you say you’re so concerned about.

I bet you’re making a big stink about “oversight committee” because you have no records of such a donation.

If that’s the case, you’re not really being honest.

Are you?

factpointer
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factpointer
5 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

brian post your last name and your own donations or stfu

Frog
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Frog
5 years ago

Just curious, do you require customers pay for your fiddle food? Because isn’t that just another BS rule?!

Chris Castleman
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5 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Yes, Brian, thanks for asking. I do have a history of supporting those causes, and feel free to reach out to me offline about my charitable contributions and community outreach. My email address can be found on my cafe’s website.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
5 years ago

It would be easy for you to show publicly that you have a history of concern for those groups.

If you can’t post that, you’re whole position is baseless.

If you can show that, then your position is simply childishly thin.

Kym Kemp
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5 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Brian, Please disagree courteously with other commenters.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Sorry Kym.

I see why you think I wasn’t being courteous.

I need to work on my wording.

Chris, without offense, I’m trying to say I haven’t seen your case being made by you.

You are welcome to have this conversation with me.

georgiagrownbutitainthome
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georgiagrownbutitainthome
5 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

I don’t agree with everything Mr. Castle man has done with his business and especially the “middle finger” to his community. I do understand his viewpoint and commend him for bringing up the collateral damages and donating the mask fees towards those damages.

I am a survivor of child abuse at the hands of my own father, multiple episodes of spousal abuse, and a one time overdose (along with surviving after finding my best friend/ love of my life dead of an overdose I could not revive him from.)One of my main concerns during this pandemic has been the isolation and loneliness caused by the lockdowns. There have been many more cases of violence towards others and that includes kids, significant others, and total strangers.

I am also a survivor of being an underpaid and underappreciated teacher in a tiny rural town. School was often the only positive interaction in some of my students lives and where they could find help for the abuse they were suffering from at home. Some of my students or “kids” had multiple family members who were convicted of sexual offenses and I memorized their names and faces on the Megan’s Law website. I encourage everyone to do the same, even if you don’t have kids, to protect yourself and your community.

There are no easy answers or solutions to the damages done from society being in lock down for so long. Donating to the groups or volunteering for the groups handling the survivors of abuse, addiction, and overdoses are just 2 ways each of us can help each other out a little. While I don’t agree 100% with all of Fiddleheads’ owners radical attempts to enact positive change, I commend him for looking at the bigger picture and doing what he can to help others.

Rio
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Rio
5 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Maybe he saw Dr Fauci’s emails from Jan 2020?, and has realized we have all been scammed

4Trinity
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4Trinity
5 years ago
Reply to  Rio

?

nah
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nah
5 years ago

[edit] There’s no way you can produce a single piece of evidence to show that you may contributions to these charities prior to the pandemic.

You’re concerned is entirely for yourself and almost certainly based on crazy conspiracy theories.

Reason
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Reason
5 years ago

The edges of your sunny side up eggs are always burned. Dont order one on a burger. And so are the fries EVERYTIME (heartburn)… The toasted buns were not even toasted …it was warmed bread.

The breakfast sandwich looked like and old sock covered in bad American Cheese.

If youre going to bring attention to a restaurant, make sure your chef can cook. You charge an arm and leg for Freedumb SLOP Burgers.

2nd worst restaurant in Willits

Marc
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Marc
5 years ago
Reply to  Reason

Isn’t his restaurant is in the town of Mendocino, not Willits?

Reason
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Reason
5 years ago
Reply to  Marc

Thanks!

Patriot in Willits
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Patriot in Willits
5 years ago
Reply to  Reason

So, just curious: what do you think worst restaurant in Willits is?

Patriot in Willits
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Patriot in Willits
5 years ago
Reply to  Reason

Just out of curiosity, what did you think was the worst restaurant in Willits?

question?
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question?
5 years ago

Chris, first off I admire your tenacity. I also want to thank you for your ongoing commitment to helping to fund a number of local causes. I can agree with you wholeheartedly on the issues of lockdowns and mandatory masking. I will never agree that taking away liberties or imposing will should take precedent over our constitutional rights as Americans. Add to that the incredible financial and sociological damage that was done by lockdowns and the vast confusion and polarization of the maskless vs the masked. (which by the way was foamneted by Dr Fauci, The CDC, and The WHO along with our local yokals) That being said I don’t understand your position on vaccines? I would never expect anyone to take any type of medication against their will no matter the reason. I also would very much be against having to show some sort of covid passport to shop or travel etc. Full disclosure I am vaccinated. I felt that the risks of contracting covid far outweighed the potential risks involved with the vaccine. That was my choice. Again I wouldn’t ever condescend to tell others what to do. But for many Americans, your patrons, the vaccine has made masking a thing of the past. As a person like yourself who obviously agrees with the personal responsibility doctrine what do you feel “poking” (no pun intended) the vaccinated accomplishes?

All the best to you Mr Castleman I for one would frequent your establishment.

Chris Castleman
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5 years ago
Reply to  question?

Hey, thanks for your support 🙂 I’m not an anti-vaxxer, nor do I poke fun at the vaccinated. The sign at my cafe addresses the issue of people BRAGGING about being vaccinated, which is more recently referred to as “virtue signaling”. It’s annoying at best and can be perceived as peer-pressure (bullying) by some. No one likes a bully, or a bragger. That’s all… if you want a vaccine then that is 100% your choice, and I won’t judge you for it.

joe voter
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joe voter
5 years ago

ignore the libs

Bug on a Windshield
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Bug on a Windshield
5 years ago

Not an anti-vaxxer nor am I vaxxed. I currently wear a mask in businesses and am holding out on the vax simply because I don’t think enough research/time has been put in. But to say you are targeting the vaxxed braggers and then penalize the maskers who are more than likely not vaxxed doesn’t quite hold up.

brent peeck
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brent peeck
5 years ago

Someone who has balls. He will have my business.

Diiiip..ding, ORDER UP!
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Diiiip..ding, ORDER UP!
5 years ago
Reply to  brent peeck

But you wouldn’t want him dipping those balls in in your chowder…it’s funny he’ll fine you for pointing out you don’t need a mask if you got vaccinated. He’s kinda protesting sooo much he forgot the point. Can you imagine a “disobedient” child who screams and yells and flips out so much they run out and get hit by a truck? A restaurant is not the place for a germophile to run. Maybe he should have a machine shop, or work out in the woods!

Chris Castleman
Guest
5 years ago

Sorry, we don’t make chowder. Our specialty is cheeseburgers and fresh cuts fries at the moment. And freedom of choice 🙂

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
5 years ago

You may want to contact the on-line Z-menu folks. They have a picture of your chalkboard menus, showing “Homemade Clam Chowder”, 7.95 a cup.

Chris Castleman
Guest
5 years ago

I have no control over user-posted photos on platforms (google/Yelp) that I don’t own. The last time we had clam chowder was 3 years ago. I appreciate your concern 🙂

rollin
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rollin
5 years ago

Derp!

Freedumb Fries

Kym, not an insult I guess?

Dano
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Dano
5 years ago

Actually, no, you don’t support freedom of choice or speech as you charge people extra for people wearing masks or discussing their vaccination. I understand, but disagree with you not supporting measures to reduce virus spread and deaths However, I do not understand you being against a person’s choice to do what is right for themselves and others. Someone who chooses to wear a mask or discuss their vaccination status has zero effect on you. Actually, they have a positive effect on you because they spend money at your establishment and reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus to you, your employees, and your patrons.

Nick
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Nick
5 years ago
Reply to  brent peeck

Exactly! If people had balls we could have stopped this scamdemic in its tracks. I’ll be stopping to eat every time I go to the city

Reason
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Reason
5 years ago
Reply to  Nick

Youre not exaggerated at all

Dano
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Dano
5 years ago
Reply to  Nick

Give me a break. I guess the 600k deaths in US are fake?

4Trinity
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4Trinity
5 years ago
Reply to  Dano

Pretty much.

“Inflated numbers” would be more accurate though. E.g: Fraud.

Have a gander:

“A death due to COVID-19 is defined for surveillance purposes as a death resulting from a clinically compatible illness . . .” ~who

“In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate as “probable” or “presumed.” ~cdc

“What are the ramifications of such changes to death certificates? (April 2020)

Possibly inflated COVID-19 death counts
Perhaps (unfairly) increased federal aid to areas with inflated COVID-19 deaths
Under-reporting of other causes of death, and resulting lack of attention to appropriate health concerns
Loss of veracity in the persons responsible for completing the death certificates
Loss of trust in a system that has been manipulated
None of these is desirable, and all will cost us in the end.”

https://www.bioethics.net/2020/05/causes-of-death-coding-in-covid-19-pandemic/

Not to mention the bs “test”.

humboldturtle
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humboldturtle
5 years ago
Reply to  brent peeck

Be sure to tip more than $5.

Balls?
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Balls?
5 years ago
Reply to  brent peeck

You’re confusing stupidity for bravery.

rollin
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rollin
5 years ago
Reply to  Balls?

“You’re confusing stupidity for bravery.”

Kym, not an insult I guess?

Don Mata
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Don Mata
5 years ago
Reply to  rollin

It looks like a simple statement of opinion from where I’m sitting!!!!

Yuk on the plate
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Yuk on the plate
5 years ago

Doesn’t mean you can’t order and then put on your mask. Takes a little work eating. As for the food one time was enough for me. If he cut his prices in half I still wouldn’t eat there.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
5 years ago

Tourist trap/tourist prices/tourist quality. Generic.

When I got my vaccinations I was given one of those pins that says “I got the vaccine”. It’s attached to my purse, I forget it’s even there most of the time. Would that qualify as “bragging”?

Chris Castleman
Guest
5 years ago

That would qualify as bragging for sure. Also: a cheeseburger, fries, and a soda for $10 (tax included) is not “tourists prices”. That’s cheaper than the McDonald’s in Fort Bragg.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
5 years ago

As I asked elsewhere, does the same “rule” apply to customers who “brag” about being anti-vaxxers? Are you an anti-vaxxer, or just playing on the internet?

Reason
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Reason
5 years ago

Food cost for burger?
Labor?

10 bucks for meat in between bread, and one pototo, is price gouging, Pal

I like stars
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I like stars
5 years ago
Reply to  Reason

Have you paid the bill at any area restaurant recently? $10 for burger, fries, and drink is a bargain around here.

Marc
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Marc
5 years ago
Reply to  Reason

You do realize he has other costs, right?

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Reason

No, it’s really not.

Mike
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Mike
5 years ago

Did you post it on social media that you got vaccinated? It seems that the current criteria.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Well I posted it here, just now. Which is media with some socializing. Don’t do Twitter or Instagram or whatever it is these days. My FB account is pretty much for leaving messages for my very busy kid.

I’m happy to tell anyone I have been fully vaccinated, that my whole extended family has been (even the Trumpers, for the sake of my mother, the matriarch of the family).

But, is Castleman checking social media for “bragging” now?

Mike
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Mike
5 years ago

Well, seems like you are seriously concerned over a hypothetical situation that will likely never happen, or if youre really curious go to his restaurant and see if you’re fined, then you’d have your concrete answer. I think you should, now I’m curious.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

???

You asked about social media, I answered, with a bit of snark at the end.

Nothing more.

I have no intention of going to Fiddleheads, if I ever make it back to Mendocino (Fort Bragg is as far south as I have been in the last decade, on business. Love that harbor, though).

The guy has been rather dramatic about all of this. Maybe he sincerely believes in it, or has found a niche to attract a certain clientele. It seems obvious that his no bragging rule is one-sided. If he thinks it’s a “teaching” moment, he’s most likely not “reading the room”, so to speak.

To be honest, when I travel, I like to find interesting restaurants that offer things that are local or at least unusual. Though this has led to some “interesting” meals.

One thing, though, as a positive, is that I am reminded of a fun film from the mid-60s. The Russians are Coming, The Russians are Coming!. Filmed at Mendocino and Noyo harbor. I need to see it again. Mendocino 55 years ago.

Mike
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Mike
5 years ago

I imagine the 5$ bragging fine is more about having the sign than actually collecting 5$. Although, years ago I heard of a guy in a coffee shop locally who kicked people out for ordering Starbucks drinks, can’t remember what coffee shop. Some people just love controversy. But the only time a mask is effective while walking to your table is if it’s a outdoor dining area with proper distancing. It’s a complete joke in almost all current restaurants, just a sign they have to have on the door that isn’t enforced. People should speak out against things that are for image and not safety, but I kinda think this guy might enjoy it a little bit too much. I asked my sister, who was a waitress for years about it and she said it should be every restaurants policy to be able to fine a customer if they’re annoying no matter their cause. I imagine if I worked in the service industry I’d agree… I was at diner with a group and one lady returned her cordon bleu because it wasn’t supposed to have creamy sauce. They could of fined her and I’d been okay with it..

VMG
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VMG
5 years ago

Well, free advertising…

I don’t think people should try this elsewhere, and there’s a sign on 101 in Ukiah, reading:

No Mask? $100 fine!

Down in Sonoma, they will throw stuff at you if you are out in public, outside, maskless…

In Sebastopol, a place I will never go again, they were vocally hostile, horns honking, when I walked from a parking lot to a store, before masking up…

In Mendocino, most of the normal rules probably don’t apply, just as in Fort Bragg, which exists in another dimension completely from the rest of California…

Having a restaurant, and being unwilling to follow rules, is not a great policy, but:

Namaste, Castleman, I actually do go to Mendocino, once every 30 years or so…

Hasn’t changed any.

Littlefoot
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Littlefoot
5 years ago
Reply to  VMG

Lol, really? So funny to picture all the hostile dorks with puffy north face jackets and their muffled yells from behind their masks. In the central valley nobody says anything either way. Lots of restaurants don’t require masks, and one brewery has been essentially fully open for months with people shoulder to shoulder maskless. I’m actually amazed people in Humboldt still wear the damn things.

Fred Hamilton
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Fred Hamilton
5 years ago

Power to the people!!!

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
5 years ago
Reply to  Fred Hamilton

People can already remove their masks when seated so how is this a big “power” move? What a waste of so called “power”. He’s a Karen in his own business, what a crack-up.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
5 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

But now people of heard of his cafe. If you go by Trip Advisor, etc, his joint doesn’t even make the top 15 in little Mendocino! How many restaurants are there in Mendocino?

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
5 years ago

And when most tourists see his dumb sign they will walk away.
I haven’t been to Mendocino in a long time, but yeah, just a handful of restaurants.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
5 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Dumb signs , too funny, got me bustin up. I can picture someone saying that while they are walking away kicking rocks out of spite. Too funny

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
5 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

It’s not like his restaurant is the only game in town . 5 minute drive to Fort Bragg for many more restaurant choices. What’s funny is you imagining that people are kicking rocks and mad about not entering his run of the mill restaurant. The imagination is a wonderful thing.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
5 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

It has y’all carrying on like no tomorrow. Apparently he has ruffled so feathers ,whether you admit it or not. Cracks me up.

Triniboldticino
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Triniboldticino
5 years ago

You can’t fix stupid. America is screwed. Good thing these guys weren’t around when polio struck America. Funny how the vaccines and precautions of yesteryear that were of concern to everyone have been politicized and are now a “hoax.” But I think they’ll get the fascist dictatorship that almost happened and they so dearly continue to desire within the next 5-10 years. American democracy is 245 years old this year. I think 250 is the magic number.
The Roman Empire, likewise a democracy, lasted 300 years. We’re not going to break that record.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
5 years ago

How does this relate to polio? Because both have a vaccine?

Just because some vaccines have been good for people it does not mean all vaccines are good for people.

Rex Trevor
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Rex Trevor
5 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

OK, Rover, what vaccines have been PROVEN harmful to people?

nevertrustacop
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nevertrustacop
5 years ago
Reply to  Rex Trevor

the ones that lead to payouts?

https://www.fairwarning.org/2018/12/vaccine-court-pays-billions/

Payouts by the national Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, or VICP, have now topped $4 billion.

A branch of the U.S. Court of Federal Claims, the program has adjudicated vaccine injury and death claims for three decades while rarely drawing much attention.

But the number of petitions has grown in recent years, which has led to an uptick in compensated cases. Roughly $1 billion—one quarter of all outlays paid to petitioners and attorneys—were distributed in just the last four years.

In the most severe cases, injuries blamed on childhood vaccines have included brain damage, paralysis and death. Over the years, 1,286 petitions have claimed that adverse reactions caused death, though it’s unclear from government data how many death claims were accepted as vaccine-related, or how many of the victims were children.

Fisher noted that two-thirds of petitioners who apply for compensation are turned away, which she said departs from the original mandate to assume an injury was caused by a vaccine unless there is a more plausible explanation.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
5 years ago
Reply to  nevertrustacop

“According to the CDC, from 2006 to 2019 over 4 billion doses of covered vaccines were distributed in the U.S. For petitions filed in this time period, 8,161 petitions were adjudicated by the Court, and of those 5,755 were compensated. This means for every 1 million doses of vaccine that were distributed,approximately 1 individual was compensated.

Since 1988, over 24,084 petitions have been filed with the VICP. Over that 30-year time period, 19,784
petitions have been adjudicated, with 8,028 of those determined to be compensable, while 11,756 were
dismissed. Total compensation paid over the life of the program is approximately $4.5 billion.” https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/data/index.html

“Before we had the vaccine, each year in the United States, about 400 to 500 children died of measles and its complications,” Schaffner added. “That’s a stunning fact. When I tell our medical students about that their jaws drop. Listen, people who think the measles was ‘meh, trivial’ are misinformed.” https://www.healthline.com/health-news/life-before-and-after-the-measles-vaccine

“Today, CDC is reporting 971 cases of measles in the United States thus far in 2019. This is the greatest number of cases reported in the U.S. since 1994, when 963 cases were reported for the entire year.

The measles elimination goal, first announced in 1966 and accomplished in 2000, was a monumental task. Before widespread use of the measles vaccine, an estimated 3 to 4 million people got measles each year in the United States, along with an estimated 400 to 500 deaths and 48,000 hospitalizations.” https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2019/p0530-us-measles-2019.html

4Trinity
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4Trinity
5 years ago
Reply to  nevertrustacop

And those are only the ones that come under the radar.

Many in Africa aren’t real happy about all of their newly vaccine-created polio cases.

The wild variety had disappeared.

Oops….

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
5 years ago
Reply to  Rex Trevor

These 4800 people.

“During this time, VAERS received 4,863 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.”

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

I fully endorse a person’s free choice to get whatever vaccines they want or refuse any they choose to. If they work there should be no fear from those who choose not to.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Please. Take some time to read through that and find your top 5 choices for a case likely related to the vaccine.

I saw 90+ year old diabetics who quit taking their meds and stopped eating.

Thanks.

nevertrustacop
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nevertrustacop
5 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

this is called double standards. comorbidities are of utmost importance now?

Mike
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Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  nevertrustacop

To me, and I’m sure someone will imform me of how wrong I am, there seems to be a significant double standard as to what constitutes a covid death and what doesn’t constitute as a vaccine related death, and I understand that with testing for covid the system was “overwhelmed” and they had to error on the side of caution. But if you died for any reason at all and had covid it was considered a covid death, and the word was comorbidities. Which is fine, if that is the standard then that’s the standard. But shouldn’t the same standard apply to every death after the vaccine til the vaccine has fully worked its cycle? If you die one week after getting the vaccine it’s “hey people die all the time” which is true, but they set a standard or precedent with covid and it seems only fair to use it with vaccine related deaths, what would be the arguement against it? You can count deaths any way you want, you just can’t change the logic on how you count them when it suits you

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
5 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

I’m pretty sure I read that for a covid death as well. Maybe they counted the same person twice.

Perhaps they should just stop counting people with comorbidities and every one can be happier with the numbers. So 30k covid deaths.

How many vaccine deaths?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
5 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Do you have a nuetral data packs about masks being “the primary vector” of Covid spread yet?

Kym Kemp
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5 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Ullr, you are too smart not to understand commorbidities play a roll in almost every medical death (as opposed to accidental or homicide). Here read this: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-82862-5

Or just this relevant part:

We performed full body autopsies on 26 patients that had died after SARS-CoV-2 infection and COVID-19 at the Charité University Hospital Berlin, Germany, or at associated teaching hospitals. We systematically evaluated causes of death and pre-existing health conditions. Additionally, clinical records and death certificates were evaluated. We report findings on causes of death and comorbidities of 26 decedents that had clinically presented with severe COVID-19. We found that septic shock and multi organ failure was the most common immediate cause of death, often due to suppurative pulmonary infection. Respiratory failure due to diffuse alveolar damage presented as immediate cause of death in fewer cases. Several comorbidities, such as hypertension, ischemic heart disease, and obesity were present in the vast majority of patients. Our findings reveal that causes of death were directly related to COVID-19 in the majority of decedents, while they appear not to be an immediate result of preexisting health conditions and comorbidities. We therefore suggest that the majority of patients had died of COVID-19 with only contributory implications of preexisting health conditions to the mechanism of death…Our findings reveal that causes of death were directly related to COVID-19 in most cases and not an immediate consequence of preexisting health conditions and comorbidities, i.e. these patients—despite often suffering from severe health conditions—would not have died in the absence of a SARS-CoV-2 infection at the given time point.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
5 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

I wonder what pre-existing conditions cause a person to die from getting a vaccine that millions of other get safely? Every a bad reaction to a vaccine is something that can happen with no vaccination at all.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
5 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

You oughta read some of the VAERS deaths. There are 517 pages to choose from.

“Got the jab, immediated began shivering, vomited and became unresponsive.”

Just coincidence.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
5 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Who might have died from many things other than vaccination. In fact the vaccinated are not holding up their fair share of the recorded deaths in the US which is odd considering that older people are more likely to be vaccinated and more likely to die, vaccinated or not.

“It’s important to note that the CDC has said 11 of the 88 deaths among COVID-19 infected, fully vaccinated people were “asymptomatic or not related to COVID-19.””
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/04/30/fact-check-misleading-claim-deaths-fully-vaccinated-people/4856504001/

Dano
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Dano
5 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

VAERS is NOT a good source for the effects of vaccines.

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Dano

?Too high, or too low??

Auntie ovine
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Auntie ovine
5 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Too unexamined.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
5 years ago
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fishkiller
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fishkiller
5 years ago
Reply to  Dano

Dano, Is there a better souce? seems that VAERS is set up by the govt as THE ONLY source and location to document vaccine adverse events.
The reports are not examined why?

Dano
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Dano
5 years ago
Reply to  fishkiller

The VAERS system is used as a “sentinel” system i.e., identifying potential adverse events related to a vaccine. It isn’t good for actual studies on vaccine efficacy or harm caused by vaccines.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
5 years ago
Reply to  fishkiller

From an article on how the VAERS is used and misused – “The VAERS system uses a version of the “data exhaust” method, a data science approach by which large quantities of rough and even unreliable data are sifted in search of pattern. The individual data points, as the VAERS builders clearly state, have not been verified, are self-reported cases, and are not the point of the VAERS approach. It is an early warning system, not a precise instrument of measure.”

How anti vaxxer site cherry pick cases to make it seem vaccines are the cause of reported deaths- “But, digging into the VAERS database, it was clear “Learn the Risk” had selected young patients with serious health problems. In many cases it was clear the decedent, despite their relatively young age, was a resident of a long-term care facility and most reports listed multiple pre-existing health problems. The patient’s medical history, and list of medications some were taking at the time, were included in most of the VAERS reports, but absent from the list shared in the Facebook post.”
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2021/02/fact-check-list-of-selected-reports-from-vaers-does-not-prove-deaths-were-caused-by-vaccines.html

And therein lies the difference between those concerned with actual safety and the anti vaxxers pushing their agenda by distorting information.

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

A quote from your web link :

“A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines.”

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
5 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

A few are probably not worth the risk but since vaccines go through qualification studies with increasing scrutiny before approval, most vaccines by far are good for the stated results. That said, vaccines do trigger immune responses- that being their whole purpose- and people respond variously to that. It’s a risk but getting a virus infection is much more of a risk, even if it doesn’t seem too dangerous for many at this point.

In regards to covid-19 vaccines, any virus that does long term damage to the heart and/lungs is something to avoid. Covid-19 is that in spades. Viruses like chicken pox and flu or bacteria infections like strep throat can seem to be mild but even then have done damage that shows up decades later from heart conditions to cancer. Due to the erratic range of severity caused by sars-cov-2, I have a feeling it is going to be something that does the same thing. Even people who never felt sick have shown both heart and lung inflamation covid-19.

Luckily the timing was serendipitous to have mRNA research at a point that development of vaccine fast was possible that has a high effectiveness with low side effects. Being that those vaccines use limited foreign proteins to create an immune response, they seem much less likely to have a severe adverse reaction than previous killed or attenuated virus vaccines which introduced all the infective virus’s proteins. The adenovirus one seems more risky to me. Would it be better to have a sterilizing vaccine? Yes. But that is not an option now and by the time it is, if it ever is, most people would have been infected by sars-cov-2 without knowing the long term consequences of it.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
5 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

The Polio vaccine eradicated Polio in the United States, in fact, if memory serves, it’s only found in the border regions of Afghanistan and Pakistan these days.

An interesting thing about Polio. up to 70% of cases were/are completely asymptomatic. About 25% only had/have minor symptoms. But that last 5% leaves a lifetime legacy.

Sound familiar?

The anti-vaxxer “movement” has done serious damage. Because of a lie.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
5 years ago

And Africa.

Thanks to the ever-caring B&MGF (pro-vaxxers).

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
5 years ago

Yep, when you allow corporations to decide policy and buy politicians, when the rich get richer, when the minimum wage hasn’t changed with current costs, when you create a divide and conquer political landscape, when cheating and lying become the norm, when the population is fixated on their phones and celebrities, when White Nationalism rears its ugly head, when education is defunded for over 50 years, when just about every faucet of a persons life is a corporate grab for their money, when the military industrial complex is handed an obscene amount of tax payers money, when a fraudulent professional bullshitter is elected as if he’s gods gift, when equality and justice have to be fought like a war, yeah, this country is going down the tubes. No amount of flag waving is gonna bring it back, it’s too far gone. There is too much that needs fixing and there’s a contingent of citizenry that love the old antiquated status quo even though it’s killing the good old USA.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
5 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Every single thing complained about in that comment is less prevalent than it was 50 years ago. Sorry to see the lack of perfection creates such anger. Too bad that unreasoning, intemperate anger makes creates so much self destructive poison that it impedes progress. In fact it reverses progress.

I personally remember seeing chain gangs in those striped uniforms that are now a cartoon joke breaking rock along highways. I remember seeing public drinking fountains (do they exist anymore?) labeled white and colored. I remember seeing share croppers rickety cabins with dirty, barely clothed, barefoot children playing in the cold with grannies sitting under layers of blankets on the front porch watching them. I remember when fresh produce was hardly available in the winter months at all. I remember when what was called “the usual childhood diseases” swept through schools every year. I remember children in iron leg braces after “recovering” from polio. I remember when malnutrition (not food insecurity or poor diets but actual died of starvation) was a problem in both young and old in parts of the country. I can remember someone being amazed that I had lived in an Asian county because he knew no one who had even lived outside the county. Heck, people couldn’t even make phone calls to foreign places without scheduling a time and paying lots of money per minute. I remember being smacked with a paddle in school along with other students and no one thinking is was unusual. I remember getting smacked on the head with a ruker by a teacher because I lifted my head during school prayer. I remember seeing a river with oily scrum burning on its surface. I can remember being told in high school that I couldn’t sign up to meet a park ranger on career day because the national park service didn’t allow females to be rangers. I remember Senator McCarthy, segregated schools and KKK marches in northern US cities. I remember college riots and protest marches that ended in violence.

A side of perspective would be good to have before assuming some prior golden age that never existed but thinking the US has lost it. And being so utterly pissed off about it.

lol
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lol
5 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

No corporate control over the economy and government is absolutely not less than it was 50 years ago. Ever heard of citizens united?

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
5 years ago
Reply to  lol

It’s called defend the Right no matter how silly you sound. It’s astounding really, the denial. Everything I mentioned is going on right this minute. Auntie Ovine/Guest takes special pride in “correcting” me all the time. I’m her pet peeve. The logic is anything but.

Local Farmer
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Local Farmer
5 years ago
Reply to  lol

Yeah sure nailed it. [edit]

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
5 years ago
Reply to  lol

Ever heard of the Teapot Dome scandal? Bobby Baker? Watergate? Commerce Department Trade Mission scandal? https://www.opensecrets.org/resources/learn/timeline

Marc
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Marc
5 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Thanks Auntie for bringing me some much needed perspective!

Well, for starters
Guest
Well, for starters
5 years ago

the polio vaccine is an actual vaccine the stops people from getting polio. The covid “vaccine” is not an actual vaccine and does not prevent people from getting covid. They are not one in the same.

Cranky Old Lady
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Cranky Old Lady
5 years ago

There are some, who after taking routine childhood vaccines, still contracted the disease. I know. I’ve had the measles twice after being vaccinated. Covid vaccines do have an acceptable rate of efficacy; the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are 95.9% effective at preventing Covid and if one develops a case after being fully vaccinated, reported symptoms are mild. No one has required hospitalization or died after being vaccinated from Covid. I’d say that’s pretty fucking effective.

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago

I’d say that’s not quite true.

Close maybe

From the CDC and and “undercount”and a “snapshot,”only 46 states reported…

Jan 1st to Apr 30, 2021

160 deaths, 706 Covid19 hospitalizations.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
5 years ago

The polio vaccine given in the US is not a sterilizing vaccine. “For example, the inactivated poliovirus vaccine does not produce sterilizing immunity and is 90 percent or more effective. A vaccine can lessen the ability of a pathogen to produce a disease response without sterilizing it. If it does sterilize against a pathogen, it can prevent infection.” https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/501677-what-is-sterilizing-immunity-and-do-we-need-it

“It turns out that the injectable vaccine does not prevent you from getting polio and it does not prevent you from passing the polio infection to someone else. But it does prevent YOU from getting paralyzed.” https://www.quora.com/Can-you-contract-polio-if-youre-vaccinated-against-it

Mind your own business, and have business to mind.
Guest
Mind your own business, and have business to mind.
5 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Stop it.

Polio was basically eradicated from the planet (polio cases have decreased by over 99% since 1988, from an estimated more than 350 000 cases to 22 reported cases in 2017.)

The US has not seen a case since 1979. And infants are given only inactivated oral vaccine .

Canada has stopped immunizing against polio altogether!

Everyone can just stop talking about polio!

Or small pox.

Non sequitur.

The polio vax (and smallpox) provided lifelong immunity.

These mRNA crappy stabs are nothing but a glorified short-acting flu shot with nanotech dressing.

To compare them, in the name of pressuring someone to go all in on this current “vaccine” mania, is ? redonk.

Auntie Ovine
Guest
Auntie Ovine
5 years ago

The miracle of vaccination, huh…

[edit]
Guest
[edit]
5 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Of ACTUAL vaccines. (coupled with satitation /nutritional advances.)
Yes.

Dont be obtuse.

Anyone who compares a single or two dose injection that provides decades of immunity to the recipient and eventual eradication, to the haphazard EXPERIMENTAL mRNA garbage that 6 months after launch they are alreadu cooking up boosters for, is not using critical thinking skills.

Lynn H
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Lynn H
5 years ago

“The polio vax (and smallpox) provided lifelong immunity.”

Not really. I knew someone who got the polio vaccine in the 60s and still got it. The vaccine wasn’t effective for him- a rare case. He was crippled from polio still as an adult. It also seemed to effect his brain. The polio vaccine worked by making enough people immune or mostly resistant to the point of it being faded out. There was real herd “immunity” just because the virus was no longer here.

The Smallpox vaccine may not give lifelong immunity but we may never know because there isn’t any around right now.

Flu shots are certainly vaccines. The covid vaccine is also a vaccine. Yep, it might not have a very long immune response time, but neither does the flu shot. It doesn’t make either “not a vaccine”. And yes, we’ll probably need booster shots, but even without them it should decrease damage done.

Maybe you mean to say the covid vaccine isn’t a very good one? Well, it’s not perfect and maybe will be better much later, but for now it could save someone’s life or just save someone a lot of misery. I’m pretty sure I got covid before it was on the radar and I still have problems breathing because of that. The second time I got it I tested pos for it but 9it was much much milder. Then I got the shots. The shots did give some flu like symptoms- but very mild and very worth it. A small amount of pain and suffering can save a great deal of it later. You probably wouldn’t even miss a day of work with the after-effects of the shots. It’s really not a big deal.

Dano
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Dano
5 years ago

Wrong. I am not sure where you get your misleading info, but both polio and covid vaccines prep your body to deal with the real virus.

Not Quite True
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Not Quite True
5 years ago
Reply to  Dano

Sorry dano, but you are the one who is not correct. You can do your own research.

4Trinity
Guest
4Trinity
5 years ago
Reply to  Dano

The key word is “immunity”.

In the old pre-2020 definition of vaccine anyway.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
5 years ago

How about that anthrax vaccine? I’m right there with you mr. Polio

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
5 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

“This study provides evidence that vaccination against anthrax is not associated with long term disability.” https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22874851/

“Nass says she has been contacted by many people in the military who blame the vaccine for chronic health problems. Most have been women, and most complaints have been symptoms such as chronic fatigue and pain, which are the same symptoms of several chronic diseases common in women such as fibromyalgia and lupus. There is no direct evidence that these symptoms are linked to the vaccine, however.” https://www.webmd.com/drug-medication/news/20011108/controversial-anthrax-vaccine#3

“Among the many speculated causes of Gulf War Syndrome, one promoted strongly by anti-vaccine advocates is that the illness is tied to the compulsory vaccination of roughly 150,000 service men and women deployed during the 1991 Gulf War.” https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/35000-soldiers-dead-anthrax-vaccinations/

Marc
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Marc
5 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Auntie, I think that many veterans of the Gulf War blame the anthrax vaccine because of unexplained symptoms, as you noted, that have come to be called Gulf War Syndrome. We were given the vaccine prior to deployment (not optional) and told it was experimental, though I don’t know for sure. I too started having symptoms of fatigue and muscle and nerve pain within two years of deploying. I don’t know what the cause was, as we were exposed to massive amounts of smoke, ash and a fine mist of unburned oil for days on end. The fires were so extreme that the heat from some could be felt from 1000 feet or more away. And there were so many that from one position I counted over 70 that were visible, but moving a few hundred yards I could then see more that were obscured by the ones I had seen from my previous position. Additionally, we had several chemical alarms go off, though no one showed any signs of chemical weapons exposure at the time. At this point I don’t discount anything as a possible cause, including anything totally unrelated to my deployment.

Thanks for the links, I have bookmarked them and will check them out. And sorry for the long ramble, but this brought up some old feelings and concerns I haven’t had in a long time.

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Marc

The anthrax vaccines had squaelene, an adjudavant they now put in high dose trivalent and quadrivalent flu vaccines specifically for the over 65 crowd.

What’s interesting is the Covid19 IFR chart shows a big increase at the 65 mark.

Is there a connection?

Lynn H
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Lynn H
5 years ago
Reply to  Marc

Also, some of the metal in some of the large shells were made from radioactive material I heard.

Samuel Jackson
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Samuel Jackson
5 years ago

Imagine all the colorful language being used in this article to describe the proprietor being used against anyone else who thinks differently than the powers that be. Yep its the shame game, screw off face diaper wearing fools!

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
5 years ago
Reply to  Samuel Jackson

You’re only shamed if you choose to be.

Marc
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Marc
5 years ago
Reply to  Samuel Jackson

Yet you use colorful language to describe anyone who thinks differently than you. This is the problem, we all have gotten so ensconced in our opinions that we have no empathy for anyone who does not view the world the way we do, nor do we want to listen to and try to understand each other.

cu2morrow
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cu2morrow
5 years ago

counter culture

Mike
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Mike
5 years ago

It is interesting that this man has been doing this for quite some time and the title doesn’t read “Contact Tracing Has Proved Cafe Owners Actions Has Spread Covid” what is he just super lucky instead of a super spreader? No outbreaks or deaths have been traced back to him? Interesting. Is he defying science, or is science refusing to analyze real word data? Or both?

Chris Castleman
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Thank you Mike for pointing out something often overlooked: real scientific data analysis. Not a single case of COVID has ever been traced back to my cafe. And Mendocino’s 5th district (where I am located) has my seen a positive test case since April 21st. There is no pandemic here on the Mendocino Coast at this time.

Cranky Old Lady
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Cranky Old Lady
5 years ago

Maybe that’s because most of your neighbors are mask compliant and have gotten their vaccines? Hmmm? Can you concede even a tiny bit that this might account for the apparent low rate of Covid youre citing?

Maybe???

Chris Castleman
Guest
5 years ago

Then what’s the issue? This was never supposed to be about “saving every life”, just preventing hospitals being overwhelmed. I haven’t caused any outbreaks, period. So regardless of why you think that is true, it still remains the truth that my actions have caused zero outbreaks in our community.

Jesus
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Jesus
5 years ago

[edit] If everyone else behaved as you you do, the situation would be entirely different.

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Jesus

?Jesus is flying under the radar…figures.?

rollin
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rollin
5 years ago
Reply to  Jesus

“Yeah a few people who are massively selfish and ignorant like yourself”

Kym, not an insult i guess

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  rollin

It’s the “a few people”
grouping, that is the radar jammer, in this instance.

And all of a sudden, it’s not technically personal…

It shouldn’t be employed as a tactic to skirt the rules, but, alas, some will stoop that low.

Don Mata
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Don Mata
5 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Evidently, NO, go figger???!!!!

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
5 years ago
Reply to  Don Mata

Yes. No “figger”ing needed.

Meeeelo
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Meeeelo
5 years ago

Chris you are a hero, a sound voice of reason in the midst of insanity. I live in northern Humboldt but I’m planning a Mendocino camping trip and will eat at your restaurant on the way down and on the way back.

I’ve been so disappointed in Humboldt in its compliance to the over reaching government tyranny and lose faith in my community every time I read the comment sections here. The fear porn and propaganda has worked so well, most have lost their ability to think critically at all.

Thank you so much for standing up for our freedoms! A true patriot!

rollin
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rollin
5 years ago
Reply to  Meeeelo

“Thank you so much for standing up for our freedoms! A true patriot!”

Ditto

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
5 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Your bar for “patriotism” is low.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
5 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Doublespeak:

patriotism now equals totalitarianism.

Eh yeah,sure?

Cranky Old Lady
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Cranky Old Lady
5 years ago

I actually agree with one of your points… the lockdown was initially slated to last two weeks in order to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed. However, the spread of the virus was lightning quick and cases climbed exponentially. I don’t agree with states’ mandating business closings, but EVERY locale in the US should have immediately initiated mandatory face masks. If the country had had a compliance rate of at least 90%, I doubt we’d be having this discussion.

Your contention that your stance has resulted in zero outbreaks is suspect. Patrons to your restaurant come from all over; Mendocino is, after all, a tourist trap. Granted, the article states you didn’t reopen until last February, but what about your refusal to comply with closures and mask mandates last spring? I would imagine that few people contracted Covid from your restaurant simply because trade was nearly nonexistent. Otherwise, why would you close? Finally, health departments have been overwhelmed with contract tracing and in some places that continues. The odds that someone may have gotten Covid by mingling with other patrons who were positive for the virus therefore is uncertain.

Still, I fail to understand your continued opposition to customers wearing masks. You would be better respected if you instead advised patrons that harassing others for their choices will not be tolerated. Let the people sort it out.

Mike
Guest
Mike
5 years ago

In a restaurant setting masking from the door to your table is useless, it defys all scientific logic. But, Let me ask you one question, it’s a serious one that I feel is relevant and might shed some light. If you or your workers got covid would you shut down and do the safety protocols til it was all clear, or would you ignore it? I feel your answer could be very important as to how people who are on the fence about this view you, myself included.

Chris Castleman
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Mike — if myself, an employee, recent customer, or vendor was diagnosed (by a physician not a single PCR test) with coronavirus, then absolutely yes, I would 100% shut down and quarantine for a week or so until we are in the clear.

Mike
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Mike
5 years ago

Ok. Thanks for the response. I feel like that adds some needed clarification.

Marc
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Marc
5 years ago

Chris, if what you are referring to as “real scientific data analysis” is that no cases of Covid-19 have been traced back to your restaurant, that is not scientific data analysis, but is merely anecdotal. It could be that there were no actual instances of infection, but it could also be for other reasons, such as no or poor contact tracing (many people refuse to provide information).

Personally, I don’t care what anyone else does. I make my choices based on my beliefs and I don’t infringe on the rights of others. As long as others don’t infringe on my rights then I have no issues with their actions. Personally, I was very cautious due to a suppressed immune system and I got vaccinated as soon as I could. If you choose not to then that is your choice. I do, however, commend you for coming on here and having a rational conversation given all of the vitriol from all sides.

“I GOT MY SHOT! Now, I’d like to place an order. Can you hear me through my mask?”

Now, pleas give me the name of your current preferred charity and I’ll send them my fine payment.

Chris Castleman
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Marc

Marc — We support Project Sanctuary in Mendocino County. You can make donations on their website. Thanks for the support!

rollin
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rollin
5 years ago

“Thank you Mike for pointing out something often overlooked: real scientific data analysis. Not a single case of COVID has ever been traced back to my cafe.”

Yes, thank you Mike. And despite that, not a single comment on here acknowledging that fact. The haters on this thread just keep hating anyway and pretend facts don’t exist; it’s sickening!.

Here is a test that EVERY mask promoter will fail miserably, further proving that there is NO correlation between masks and the spread of covid, yet they will mindlessly continue to try and control your life anyway while cursing you endlessly.

COVID Charts Quiz

Chris, do you have somewhere to donate to your restaurant?

Non-fiction
Guest
Non-fiction
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

He shut down the cafe for 90% of the pandemic shutdown period…
thus no viable data set available…
thus no study possible…
thus NO conclusion can be drawn from the experiment.

Plus, during fall/winter when cases were severely spiking, the local and state contact tracing program was seriously falling apart from overwhelm

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

“He shut down the Cafe for 90% of the pandemic shutdown period…”

That’s a huge data set in itself!

A conclusion is absolutely clear and present!

The foregone conclusion is quite obviously that the chance of spread in his establishment has been eliminated by 90% as an absolutely indisputable matter of fact.

He achieved that at a great cost.

While he was closed he achieved a 100% prevention of disease spread.

Better than any vaccine.

Being closed for 90% of the time, and now being maskless, with 42% of Americans fully vaccinated, plus however many that have recovered from Covid19 and have natural antibodies, I’d say he is doing as well or way better than any vaccine at preventing spread.

And he paid a steep price to protect people.

Cut him some slack.

All I want to know is, is does he serve Pepsi, or Coke.

Yes, everything on the burger, and you damn right I want fries with that! Er, um, please.

$10 bucks did you say?
What’s the catch?

That’s a good deal!

HotCoffee
Guest
HotCoffee
5 years ago
Reply to  Guest

People don’t consider the fact that a business still has expenses while shut down.
Even more expenses when Gavin said they could open, yes, then no , then yes, then no.
People brought their staff back refilled all the food stock they donated while playing the yes/no game.

It will be interesting to see how many survived that.

Chris Castleman
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Guest

We have Pepsi AND coke!! Freedom of choice, baby!!!

4Trinity
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4Trinity
5 years ago

Do you have Pliny The Elder AND Bud light? ?

No Joke
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No Joke
5 years ago

I wonder if he similarly pushes back against the government mandate that *employees must wash hands after using the bathroom* – I’m not willing to get food poisoning to find out.

Chris Castleman
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  No Joke

Contrary to popular belief, we do in fact wash our hands, thanks for asking. But would you be concerned if the government fined you $10,000 if you didn’t wash your hands? Because that’s the conversation I’m interested in having.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
5 years ago

With the issue of Hepatitis A outbreaks on restaurants, I’m inclined to say, yeah.

Edited to add: What do you define as “bragging”? And what is your problem with this alleged “bragging”?

Chris Castleman
Guest
5 years ago

Great! Now we know where we both stand on this important issue. It’s also great to know we stand united in our hand washing advocacy, because no one likes a poopy handshake 🙂

Angela Robinson
Guest
Angela Robinson
5 years ago

I have a question. Would you allow anti-vaxxers to brag about it in your cafe? And why, if yes. What’s the difference.

Chris Castleman
Guest
5 years ago

In my cafe, I allow people to discuss whatever moves them. But just like the real world, there are consequences for our words and actions. That’s my point, and that’s the conversation I’m encouraging: What consequences have ALL of our actions and words had over the past 15 months? I’ll start… my actions with regards to COVID restrictions have resulted in ZERO virus cases being traced back to my establishment. My actions have also resulted in a $10,000 fine and hundreds of thousands of lost revenue. And lastly, my recent actions have raised thousands of dollars for local charities. Okay, now it’s your turn.

Angela Robinson
Guest
Angela Robinson
5 years ago

So, you just said a lot of words to say, “No, I don’t charge anti-vaxxers 5.00 for bragging”.

Why? Goose/gander…seems your “consequences” are very one-sided.

You made a choice, all along, to be anti-masking. And are now trying to martyr yourself because of it.

Just a side note, I am keenly aware and have experience in the tourist restaurant business on the coast (in Oregon). So don’t try to bullsh#t me.

Kym Kemp
Admin
5 years ago

Angela, Please be courteous when disagreeing with others.

Angela Robinson
Guest
Angela Robinson
5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Apologies, Kym.

I do wish he would just say, plainly, whether he allows anti-vaxxers to “brag” in his establishment without the 5.00 penalty.

But you are right. I need to step away.

1st amendment
Guest
1st amendment
5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Nothing wrong with what she said.

Meeeelo
Guest
Meeeelo
5 years ago

I dont understand why anyone is proud of their vaccine anyways.

“Yay look at me, I fell for the propaganda and volunteered myself to be guinea pig for a never tested medical technology to protect me from a non existent threat”

Cranky Old Lady
Guest
Cranky Old Lady
5 years ago

I can understand your animus over the closures of restaurants during the early months of the pandemic, but I don’t understand your continued hostility towards masking. It’s not hurting you. It’s not hurting your business; when I eat out, I can remove my mask as soon as my drinks arrive, before I’ve ordered. So there’s not much point to your continued “protest.”

Again. How does it harm you if someone with a mask on enters your restaurant to eat? Their money is the same as everyone else’s.

Tim
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Tim
5 years ago

Wearing a mask doesn’t harm him in the least, this is strictly a symbolic gesture designed to create media attention for a political point of view.

As long as everyone understands that they can respond appropriately.

The Real Brian
Guest
The Real Brian
5 years ago

You could have also infected no one while not having a $10,000 fine.

I guess in this case, you have to pay to not play, as I’ve considered Covid to be a team sport.

Tim
Guest
Tim
5 years ago

I’d just like to point out that not having any COVID cases traced back to your restaurant doesn’t mean none were spread there, it simply means contact tracing didn’t implicate it. Given the nature of clientele who probably patronized your establishment because of your political statements, I’m not surprised — they probably wouldn’t have gotten tested if they were sick or cooperated with the contact tracing team if they did.

Given the small size of your business it’s unlikely to have been a “super spreader” in any case.

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
5 years ago

That were rejected. The charities refused your donation because it went against the purpose. The reason for donation seemed self serving sorry Chirs…

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
5 years ago

I suspect public health does do inspections including that issue and would close them down until they cooperated. I agree that lockdown restriction have been heavy handed, punitive and less than effective. And could have been handled much better.

Hopefully the sign about charging for mask wearing acts as an alert to those to whom it is important to go elsewhere and those who agree with you are plentiful enough to keep you solvent.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
5 years ago

If you’re concerned about fees and fines, why are you charging them for people who want to stay healthy during a pandemic?

[edit]

Cranky Old Lady
Guest
Cranky Old Lady
5 years ago

But the government isn’t fining anyone for not handwashing to prevent Covid. That’s a straw man argument. Now fining restaurant workers for not washing their hands? Yeah. I can see that and also see that it’s necessary.

well . . .
Guest
well . . .
5 years ago

I would be very concerned if there is no monetary consequence for violating public health laws.

How many of these $10,000 fines have you incurred from your behavior during the pandemic so far?

fishkiller
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fishkiller
5 years ago

Chris, keep up the good work!
I support your pushback to the covid-911 con job.
You’ve got a large set of huevos, I just wish the rest of the population would grow a pair.
You are a man of principle. You have my respect.

rollin
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rollin
5 years ago
Reply to  fishkiller

“You are a man of principle. You have my respect.”

Ditto

Marc
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Marc
5 years ago
Reply to  fishkiller

We all have our mountains that we are willing to die on. Just because my mountain isn’t the same as yours doesn’t mean I am not principled.

[edit]

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
5 years ago
Reply to  Marc

Every one seems to have a different idea of what “ patriotism “ is also.

No Joke
Guest
No Joke
5 years ago

If I were a restaurant worker, I would simply wash my hands after using the restroom every time, instead of handling people’s food with fecal bacteria on my hands, thus avoiding any fines or lawsuits.

Anyone working in a restaurant who doesn’t wash their hands after using the bathroom deserves to be fined, sued, and [edit]

Basic sanitation measures such as handwashing and masking are simply the morally right thing to do.

Denial'sNotARiverInEgypt
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Denial'sNotARiverInEgypt
5 years ago

This is Darwin’s theory in a microcosm: the least capable members of the species are winnowed out, but it takes multiple generations. The infection and death rates among those who haven’t been vaccinated against COVID are as high or higher than ever, but because half the population is now vaccinated, the overall data looks like improvement. It is, if you’ve been vaccinated. Let the anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers (among whom the overlap is likely 95%) continue to refuse and resist — over time, that less capable fraction of the overall population will go the way of the dodo. The only downside is, they will take a lot of innocent people (who for whatever reason haven’t been able to get vaccinated yet) with them.

C. Armstrong
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C. Armstrong
5 years ago

Chris Castleman = Selfish ignorance.

rollin
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rollin
5 years ago
Reply to  C. Armstrong

“Chris Castleman = Selfish ignorance.”

That couldn’t possibly be an insult

Don Mata
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Don Mata
5 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Evidently NO, according to Kym at the very least!!! Her opinion on THAT is the ONLY One that counts!!!!

Taco 36
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Taco 36
5 years ago

I’m going to assume the majority of these liberals don’t believe the fauci email leaks. I’ll also believe that they think *poof* the virus will be over in a few weeks when the government says it is. Hell they probably don’t even see the red flag when the governors offer (our) tax money for a lottery system to try to force the rest of us to get the vaccine.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
5 years ago
Reply to  Taco 36

Believing or not believing Fauci is a career bureaucrat with everything that implies is not a marker of whether a pandemic exists and has killed people. To believe it is all some big plot made up by an organization for world wide domination means having to believe every doctor warning about the disease and every nurse stressed by taking care of hospitalized covid-19 patients is lying. It has been decades since I was able to stretch my ability to believe stuff even more unlikely than the Easter Bunny.

Cranky Old Lady
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Cranky Old Lady
5 years ago
Reply to  Taco 36

What email leaks? The Dr Fauci’s emails sent from his government account were released through a FOIA request with no objections.

Please don’t disseminate false information. Thank you.

Meeeelo
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Meeeelo
5 years ago
Reply to  Taco 36

Right? Fauci himself said masks are ineffective, let’s stop this charade!

Of course people either don’t care or are wilfully ignorant. Too many have placed themselves on pedestals for following arbitrary orders and playing this pandemic pretend game.

What happens when you sit down? covid magically knows not to get you when you’re seated? But as soon as you stand up you’re fair game again?

It’s all a farce. Wake up people!

Dano
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Dano
5 years ago
Reply to  Meeeelo

Wrong. Fauci never said that masks are useless. What is pretend about 600k deaths in US and many more with severe complications?

tym simspson
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tym simspson
5 years ago
Reply to  Meeeelo

Right an the election was stolen from Trump. Whatever.( Q is Putin)

Cranky Old Lady
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Cranky Old Lady
5 years ago
Reply to  Meeeelo

I’ve never heard Dr Fauci say that face masks aren’t effective in preventing disease. That’s a right wing falsehood. What Dr Fauci DID advise at the beginning of the pandemic was for people not to rush out and buy up face masks that were in short supply for front line medical workers at that time. He advised the public to stay home. Hoarding scare supplies at the beginning of the crisis was a huge problem, and still is… reference gasoline hoarding during the cybercrime against Colonial. Not at all necessary but because of fearful and selfish individuals, there were sporadic shortages. Same during this pandemic.

Mike
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Mike
5 years ago

What they’re referring to, fauci email to Sylvia Burwell February 5th 2020. “Masks are really for infected people to prevent them from spreading infection to people who aren’t infected, rather than protecting unifected people from acquiring infection. The typical mask you buy in the store is not really effective at keeping out the virus, which is small enough to pass through the material. It might however provide some slight benefit in keeping out gross droplets if someone sneezes or coughs on you. I do not recommend you wear a mask particularly because you are going to a very low risk location”

Shirley U. Jest
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Shirley U. Jest
5 years ago
Ann Hall
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Ann Hall
5 years ago

Let’s see. I think it would cost me $10.00 to eat at this restaurant. I would feel compelled to mention that I have indeed been vaccinated and boy, does that feel good. And now that I am vaccinated, I no longer have to be as concerned about inadvertently spreading the virus to others as I was previously. You might even say that my vaccination status is itself a mask; one that protects others much better than a fabric mask ever will. WhooHoo! I do appreciate this restaurant owner’s recognition of the increased incidence of child, domestic and drug abuse due to the emergency lockdowns and his support of organizations that help them.

Chris Castleman
Guest
5 years ago

Thanks for your sentiments. About the case rate at my cafe, are you implying that contract tracing is ineffective? I’m confused about which part of the science you disagree with…

HotCoffee
Guest
HotCoffee
5 years ago

I support your right to run your business as you see fit.
It’s not like anyone is being forced to eat there.
Clearly many do.
And thanks for supporting worthy causes.

swedish fish
Guest
swedish fish
5 years ago

so if theres a fine for wearing a mask and a fine for being vaccinated isn’t that contradictory? if you’re vaccinated you don’t need a mask but you are fined for being vaccinated also…it sounds like he just wants to charge more money to be in his gross disease spreading restaurant. why doesn’t public health shut his ass down when he’s admittedly doing things in his restaurant that could spread disease. it shouldn’t matter what illness you are spreading, if you are getting folks sick in your restaurant it needs to be shut down. and also these “constitutionalist” republicans charging money for people exercising their constitutional right to free speech is so ass backwards hypocritical its amazingly stupid. guaranteed i will NEVER eat somewhere that puts my health at risk or violates my rights like that.

Marc
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Marc
5 years ago
Reply to  swedish fish

Point of order, your first amendment right only protects you against government actions.

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

Reality
Guest
Reality
5 years ago

I know of several businesses that never required masks and none have been vaccinated from the start of this right here in humboldt. None of those businesses have been linked to spreading it to anyone and no one that works in those businesses have caught it. Texas has no restrictions, Florida has no restrictions. That’s thousands and thousands of businesses doing the same as Chris at a statewide level. Why aren’t we hearing of a huge outbreak in those states you might ask yourself. On a final note, this doesn’t qualify as a vaccine because it does not prevent you from catching the virus, it did however create several brand new billionaires in this country creating and selling the product. Get the shot if you choose, but don’t wash it down with the koolaid.

dunce
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dunce
5 years ago
Reply to  Reality

According to your definition no vaccine has ever been evicted vaccine since all of them have breakthrough cases.

HotCoffee
Guest
HotCoffee
5 years ago
Reply to  Reality

?

Cranky Old Lady
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Cranky Old Lady
5 years ago
Reply to  Reality

Texas has had a large spike in cases since they eased restrictions… they just don’t report them.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
5 years ago

Really? Care to share your info?

Thanks Reality. ?

robash141
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robash141
5 years ago

Don’t worry dude, Trump will bail you out when your business fails?????????????

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
5 years ago
Reply to  robash141

Trump won’t, but Ole Joe surely will with your tax dollars, that’s if you pay taxes bud. Peace out, the government don’t discriminate.

HotCoffee
Guest
HotCoffee
5 years ago

2nd time I posted today that doesn’t show up with no known broken rules.

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Yep, I posted a comment in response to Bushytails about indiscriminate vaccinations, etc. and it disappeared, too.

fishkiller
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fishkiller
5 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Kym has her finger hovered over the delete button……..itchy trigger finger.

HotCoffee
Guest
HotCoffee
5 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I asked why about 8:30 am, no response.

Kym Kemp
Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

See Rule #15 on the comment rules.

“This website is primarily for getting out news. A commenter may be put on moderation or deleted if, in the eye of the site owner, they create drama or require too much work and get in the way of putting out news.”https://kymkemp.com/2018/05/20/commenting-rules-on-redheaded-blackbelt/

I’ve only got so much time, the comment section is taking too much of my energy. I’m sorry if you don’t agree with me about decisions I make. I may even be wrong but for now, I’m having to limit the energy I put into this in order to focus on the news part.

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Does that mean I got deleted?

Didn’t think I broke any rules either, just tried to respond to bushy

HotCoffee
Guest
HotCoffee
5 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

As far as I can tell I didn’t break rule 15 on either post.
I read it when you posted it.
But clearly it’s your site.
Consider though that we also put in time writing them just to have them disappear into the unknown. Glitch? Deleted? Unknown.

disappointed
Guest
disappointed
5 years ago

I can’t think of a good reason to give him free publicity by mentioning the name of the restaurant over and over. The real story here is investigating why he has not incurred fines or other enforcement action.

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  disappointed

?Fiddlebacks, Fiddlebacks, Fiddlebacks.????☕?

Marc
Guest
Marc
5 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I don’t care what anyone says, THAT’S HILARIOUS!????

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  Marc

?I try,?,
Thanks for noticing…

HotCoffee
Guest
HotCoffee
5 years ago
Reply to  Guest

LOL ?️??

HotCoffee
Guest
HotCoffee
5 years ago
Reply to  disappointed

In Ca. we let people go with pounds of meth, but we have to destroy a legit business for doing what the rest of the country is legally doing. Geezz…Newsom doesn’t even wear a mask at restaurants.
And they call Ca. progressive…..hmm

Chris Castleman
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

AMEN

The Real Brian
Guest
The Real Brian
5 years ago

Chris Castleman said:

But would you be concerned if the government fined you $10,000 if you didn’t wash your hands? Because that’s the conversation I’m interested in having.

https://kymkemp.com/2021/06/03/mendocino-coast-cafe-owner-doubles-down-on-pandemic-defiance-charging-customers-5-to-wear-a-mask/#comment-1354869

But he has that issue figured out quite well in this comment:

But just like the real world, there are consequences for our words and actions.

https://kymkemp.com/2021/06/03/mendocino-coast-cafe-owner-doubles-down-on-pandemic-defiance-charging-customers-5-to-wear-a-mask/#comment-1354919

HotCoffee
Guest
HotCoffee
5 years ago

Seems like a bunch of masked, vaxxed people having a fit because others have a choice.

If being vaxxed and masked is so great, what are you afraid of?
Why get vaxxed and wear a mask if it doesn’t protect you?

If it does protect you why have a hissy fit and try to take down this mans business?

Just plain mean and nasty.

Rattie Norcal
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Rattie Norcal
5 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Just canceled it as a place to eat. Problem solved.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
5 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

So you interpret this as having a choice when told that fees will be added for being vaccinated? Have you no objection to being refused service if you are not vaccinated and choose not to wear a mask? That would be, in your own words, having a “hissy fit” over choice too.

HotCoffee
Guest
HotCoffee
5 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

People are being threatened everywhere for not being vaxxed or masked. Perhaps if the vaxxed get the same treatment they might get a sense of what it’s like.

No Vax or masks, no sports, concerts, shopping, restaurants, etc.
And many charge more for tickets if unvaxxed. I’ve seen up to $1000 more.

Good for the goose as they say.

And it’s not a necessary commodity you at least have an option to go elsewhere..

Someone is finally giving the unmasked a choice.

How many vaxxed with a mask do you really think will be going and paying $5 ?

Chuck U
Guest
Chuck U
5 years ago

I have an opinion.

Rattie Norcal
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Rattie Norcal
5 years ago

If you let him spit on you, you get 10% off the cost of the meal.

onlooker
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onlooker
5 years ago

It comes down to one simple question. Is this business violating health rules or orders? If it is, it should be shut down. Padlocked. The owner has a history of violating health orders. If he violates them now, his license should be rescinded. It’s simple, and there’s no drama about it. Everything else is personal opinion, and you know the old saying about opinions and certain anatomical portions

HotCoffee
Guest
HotCoffee
5 years ago

Off topic, Good news………

AP buries the leed in paragraph 7… HR 1 is dead after Senate Parliamentarian ruling…

This is the biggest story that no one is covering.

HR 1 is now dead. Budget reconciliation can’t be used to codify election fraud.

Below is paragraph 7:

The ongoing talks may take on new importance after Democrats suffered a setback Wednesday in their efforts to attempt to pass this and other Biden priorities on party-line votes. The Senate parliamentarian signaled new limits on how many times Democrats can use the budget reconciliation process that allows a 51-vote threshold, rather than the 60 votes typically needed to advance legislation. In a four-page memo, the parliamentarian made it clear Democrats will likely have only one more opportunity to use the budget process this year, essentially closing the door on a strategy they were eyeing for multiple votes.

Marc
Guest
Marc
5 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Oh, yea! No more worries about Democrats assuring all citizens have those pesky voting rights! Let’s celebrate by passing more state voter suppression laws and trying to overturn that election outcome we don’t like! Election audits for everyone, but only in states or counties that voted for Biden.

HotCoffee
Guest
HotCoffee
5 years ago
Reply to  Marc

We all have known there is voter fraud since Joe Kennedy fixed the votes for John, Even though I’m glad JFK won voter fraud is wrong.
If anyone doesn’t have an ID then pass a law to help them get one…problem solved.
No one said they couldn’t have water in line.
They said a political party could not give them water in line and try to influence their vote.
Open more polling places people shouldn’t have to wait for hours.
Use paper ballots. Everything is being hacked these days.
Stop big tech from tilting the news and censoring one side.
A doctors note can be gotten for the disabled or elderly so they can vote by mail.
Every state needs to clean up their voter roles. DMV made a mess of Ca.’s.
Real and honest solutions can be found.

Instead the lies just keep goin round.

DC-10
Guest
DC-10
5 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Got that right. “Voter suppression” enacted for permanently increasing the validity, or at least exposure of it, at the cost of people need to get their paperwork together like adults..
The side pushing the narrative that their constituents can’t get an ID need to cater to that need, not discarding reasonable legal protections of the process.

Like making crime legal to lower the crime rate.. Same team doing that. It’s progress, folks

I’m 100% for voter ID laws, I’m also 100% for every legal-to-vote individual casting a ballot that is counted.
I think the whole thing is an absolute mess. The greatest tragedy to me is the fact that Russia and China will absolutely not let us create a digital voting system that lets one track their own vote to tabulation..

But they should be working on it anyway, just like working on election security in its current form and working on getting folks an effing ID

Call me crazy
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Call me crazy
5 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

“Even though I’m glad JFK won voter fraud is wrong”.

This is how division creates opportunities for the management class.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
5 years ago
Reply to  Call me crazy

I liked JFK as president, but not how he became POTUS.
Just being honest.

Call me crazy
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Call me crazy
5 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

#metoo

Don Mata
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Don Mata
5 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

What “Voter Fraud” exactly ARE You going off about???? tRump & his hand wringing & RIOT INCITING BULLSHIT, about election fraud that cannot be proven & in fact has been shown REPEATEDLY tobe total & complete BULLSHIT!!!!!!!

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
5 years ago
Reply to  Don Mata

Not exactly. Trump made unverified claims and those responsible for checking generally refused to check. Pointedly, deliberately and continuously. Examination has been scrupulously avoided in fact. Even Trump in the end prefered to avoid real examination. Of course that shuts no one up. The press keeps calling his statements lies and Trump keep implying them. https://time.com/5914377/donald-trump-no-evidence-fraud/

That so many people believed it was true was because of the massive witch hunt that was started immediately after the election from the Democrats lies. Remember the Steele Dossier? Having gone down that road, Democrats were determined to impeach and dug until the best they could come up with was the Ukaine telephone call. The House voted along party lines to impeach and the Senate voted along party lines to dismiss. It was a partisan shit show from start to finish. After that, literally half the country would believe the Democrats capable of any fraud and the other half believed Trump capable of any lie. They both earned those beliefs through their rabid and personal partisanship. Which you seem to find an agreeable way to run a country as it continues in your post.

nevertrustacop
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nevertrustacop
5 years ago

if you wish to live “social distanced” aka social isolation until you die you are free to do so. i think we all know everyone breaks the rules when it suits their needs. it baffles myvmind to think grown adults believe june 15th something magical happens that isnt a reality now. then again those same people believe you can magically avoid a virus in a restaurant as long as you wear any sort of face covering while standing but are free to eat and drink… astounding

Dano
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Dano
5 years ago
Reply to  nevertrustacop

These are misleading statements. It is about reducing exposure in terms of probability and dose. You must not believe in washing your hands, either. I am sure more went into the June 15th date other than it simply being random e.g., estimated number of vaccinated people.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
5 years ago
Reply to  Dano

Newsom’s recall perhaps?

Anybody get that $600 he was trying to buy you with?

Cranky Old Lady
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Cranky Old Lady
5 years ago
Reply to  nevertrustacop

When I’ve been to my favorite local restaurants, they also distance the seating. If I didn’t feel safe, I’d continue to order take out. I’m also a medical professional and am very much aware of effective infection control measures. I believe the establishments I patronize have effective mitigation measures in place.

nevertrustacop
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nevertrustacop
5 years ago

well im glad you feel safe but common sense is what im talking about. as far as i know the box for facemasks still come with the legal disclaimer that they will not protect protect you from virsues or coronaviruses. that disclaimer im sure is not just there to waste ink and take up space. “the jab” that everyone is raving about gives legal immunity to those companies profiting off of the billions of people who trust them. just because its popular to double think doesnt make it truth.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
5 years ago
Reply to  nevertrustacop

?

Gram4
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Gram4
5 years ago

This guy deserves to go out of business. Just because he’s a ****** who doesn’t believe in science doesn’t mean he needs to put the community at risk. I hope people who lost loved ones remember this guy when life goes back to normal. Common sense isn’t very common around here!

Hole in your foot
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Hole in your foot
5 years ago

Beyond lame !! My family loves Mendocino but we got food from that cafe in 2019 and it was not so low quality..and not so good …. why the owner is so obsessed with not following pandemic rules? who knows let’s wonder if he follows county health rules in his kitchen? …seems he Would fit in in well in Texas or somewhere not so progressive as the lovely Mendocino town…. never going shop their again….and I am pretty sure a lot of folks will stop eating their….dude your shooting yourself in the foot….

I like stars
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I like stars
5 years ago

Stop eating their what?

Lori
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Lori
5 years ago

We have a trip planned up there this month. Reservations at a hotel, a restaurant and the rail bikes are already made.

But it doesn’t need to be there. All those things are cancellable. Our tourist dollars will be just a constructive to communities where local businesses aren’t selfish, arrogant asshats. Plenty of lovely places around where folks are better informed and care about other people.

*shrugs*

Canyon oak
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Canyon oak
5 years ago
Reply to  Lori

Yes shrugs.
Maybe the world is not a tourist playground for those with disposable income?

Lynn H
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Lynn H
5 years ago
Reply to  Lori

Eew

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
5 years ago

Fiddlesticks fiddleheads futzing follies force foolish fallacies forward, forgoing full facts for far fetched Freudian function!!!

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago

Fiddlebacks,
fighting forever for freedom, frequently feeding friendly, frugal folks’ faces flavorful, fine fixin’s, & french fries, fearlessly.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
5 years ago
Reply to  Guest

You’re on a roll… 🙂

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Except I Meant to say, “Fiddleheads”.

Chris Castleman
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5 years ago
Reply to  Guest

“Fiddleheads, fighting forever for freedom, frequently feeding friendly, frugal folks’ faces flavorful, fine fixin’s, & french fries, fearlessly.”

This is the most beautiful thing I have ever read.

Rattie Norcal
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Rattie Norcal
5 years ago

Must be heaven for your employees, the poor schmucks.

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago

?Chris Castleman,

Shucks, thanks, it was nothing really…. I’m kind of a word nerd.

I wish your business the best,
And I hope you bounce back quickly from the major setback.

But, I’m still, curious, you got Pepsi’s, or Coke’s? ??.

Chris Castleman
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5 years ago
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We have Pepsi AND coke!! Freedom of choice, baby!!!

Mike
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Mike
5 years ago

I do wonder if the sides would be reversed if a restaraunt fined you 5$ for wearing a MAGA hat?

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Lets not forget Trump helped rush these jabs and there approval.
So that doesn’t make a case for everyone opposed being a Trump supporter.

Rattie Norcal
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Rattie Norcal
5 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Trump took his shots in secret so as not to stir up the looney tooney antivax crowd.

Don Mata
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Don Mata
5 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

“There” where, approval???

Chris Castleman
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5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Who told you about next week’s sign?

Rattie Norcal
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Rattie Norcal
5 years ago

Q says time travel, how Trump will be “reinstated”.

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
5 years ago

Feigning freedom, forgetting fact for falsehoods, Fiddleheads falls far from favor facing fierce fines.

Guest
Guest
Guest
5 years ago

Frankly,
Foes, frantically, fanatically, fettering freemen, federally forbidden, forsaking famously forthright Freemason Franklin, fractures friendships, fuels feuds.

AlphaCentauri
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AlphaCentauri
5 years ago

It’s a private business. Charging people more if they wear masks is his decision. He’s made it clear that he wishes to drive off 50% of his potential customers. I’m sure they appreciate being notified about that before they’ve spent any money there.

However, if he claims the government does not have the right to regulate the activities of restaurants that pose a threat to public health, I don’t even want to know what his kitchen’s refrigerator looks like.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
5 years ago
Reply to  AlphaCentauri

The government has no rights. Those are reserved for the People.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
5 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

It doesn’t need rights. It has powers.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
5 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Powers that We allow.

farley
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farley
5 years ago

Kym, I’m disappointed that you chose to give this [edit] a platform.

Canyon oak
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Canyon oak
5 years ago

Farley, you are lovely in word and deed.
I feel much safer at the co-op, eye smiling at all the other heady registered members that surely share my same values.♥️

Georgiagrownbutitainthome
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Georgiagrownbutitainthome
5 years ago

I don’t agree with everything Mr. Castle man has done with his business and especially the “middle finger” to his community. I do understand his viewpoint and commend him for bringing up the collateral damages and donating the mask fees towards those damages.

I am a survivor of child abuse at the hands of my own father, multiple episodes of spousal abuse, and a one time overdose (along with surviving after finding my best friend/ love of my life dead of an overdose I could not revive him from.)One of my main concerns during this pandemic has been the isolation and loneliness caused by the lockdowns. There have been many more cases of violence towards others and that includes kids, significant others, and total strangers.

I am also a survivor of being an underpaid and underappreciated teacher in a tiny rural town. School was often the only positive interaction in some of my students lives and where they could find help for the abuse they were suffering from at home. Some of my students or “kids” had multiple family members who were convicted of sexual offenses and I memorized their names and faces on the Megan’s Law website. I encourage everyone to do the same, even if you don’t have kids, to protect yourself and your community.

There are no easy answers or solutions to the damages done from society being in lock down for so long. Donating to the groups or volunteering for the groups handling the survivors of abuse, addiction, and overdoses are just 2 ways each of us can help each other out a little. While I don’t agree 100% with all of Fiddleheads’ owners radical attempts to enact positive change, I commend him for looking at the bigger picture and doing what he can to help others

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
5 years ago

?? Georgia

Frog
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Frog
5 years ago

Pretty sure everyone who is brave enough to do so (those with vaccinations could do so with a greater degree of safety) should go in mask free maybe find a maga hat and order a huge meal and even a bunch of food to go too. Then when the bill comes insist having to pay is just another government overreach !
DINE AND DASH TIME!!!!!!

Charles Engel
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Charles Engel
5 years ago

I stopped by at Fiddleheads earlier this morning. I asked to speak to the owner. Chris introduced himself with a smile and attitude that I enjoy interacting with. Two customers were sitting at one of the tables. I told Chris that I wanted to compliment him on his courage. His smile increased as I continued. I acknowledgted that he was also very stupid. The smile decreased in size. I pointed out that stupid people can cause a lot of damage. The customers were paying apt attention. I asked him if he was new to town. Chris informed me that he had recently moved to the Mendocino Coast. He asked me if being a short time resident diminished him in any way. I acknowledged that I have stupid friends that have lived here for decades. I didn’t acknowledge my own stupidity because he didn’t ask. I said something about him being a Trump supporter. He said; “Why do you assume I am a Trumpster”. I said; “It is possible that you are independently stupid”. I thanked him for the conversation as I was leaving. It was therapeutic for me to stop by and acknowledge that he had possibly attained a new plateau for stupidity.

I regret not telling the customers that they were eating at an establishment where the owner believes it is a violation of their Constitutional rights when one is forced to obey public health guidelines.

I recommend that neighbors and visitors stop by and let Chris know what you think of his antics.

4Trinity
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4Trinity
5 years ago
Reply to  Charles Engel

Meanie. Insulting someone in their own establishment and in front of their customers.

I guess I was stupid too for not abandoning my home during the wildfires. Though it also was just a MANDATE.

Guidelines….?

Bug on a Windshield
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Bug on a Windshield
5 years ago

I wonder how the fee shows up on the receipt. I wonder if the BBB would actually allow this practice. If someone working for the state were traveling and stopped there to eat, would the “mask fee” be included in the business travel expense write off?