‘Stop the Steal’ March and Demonstration in Eureka
With flags blowing in the wind, about 40 supporters of President Trump gathered at the Courthouse today to “Stop the Steal.” They believe the presidential election was tampered with and Democrat Joe Biden wrongly declared the winner in spite of numerous organizations, judges, and election officials saying there was no evidence of fraud. [Photos and video by Ryan Hutson]
![Supporters of President Trump gathered at the Humboldt County Courthouse. [Photos and video by Ryan Hutson]](https://kymkemp.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/127856743_236482474499007_9085141430294232310_n.jpg)
Supporters of President Trump gathered at the Humboldt County Courthouse. [Photos and video by Ryan Hutson]
Below is a repost of a video that was posted live of the march.
Driversby provided a mix of supportive honking and rude obscenities though for the most part the honks outweighed the jeers.
At one point there was nearly an accident when a gentleman drew his vehicle to an abrupt stop in front of the Courthouse and honked for about 10 to 15 seconds in the middle of traffic.
![Eugene Womack dressed as Uncle Sam stands on the Courthouse balcony. [Photos and video by Ryan Hutson]](https://kymkemp.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/128098001_192424125774647_4956126187577793606_n-Copy.jpg)
Eugene Womack, Vietnam Veteran dressed as Uncle Sam stood on the Courthouse balcony during the demonstration. [Photos and video by Ryan Hutson]
A protester held a sign supporting demanding the recall of California’s Governor Gavin Newsom.[Photos and video by Ryan Hutson]
Tyler, who was wearing a “My governor is an idiot” t-shirt, said that “under Constitutional law, fraud is fraud. Recounts at this point are unnecessary because a fraud had been committed.” He did not articulate any evidence for fraud. [Today, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals (all appointed by Republicans) dismissed a case challenging the election there. One stated, “Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.” Similar outcomes have come from dozens of other cases filed by the Trump team and their supporters.]
Tyler, a gay supporter of President Trump, held a Pride flag as he stood in front of the Courthouse.
Another protester said, “I accept the outcome [of the election], but I don’t like it…I do support President Trump and I love my country.”
This demonstrator said he accepted the outcome of the election but he didn’t like it.
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It just seems as if they are all so psychotic and fanatical, they have obviously been brainwashed by their television screens. Who would have thought that a old 70’s something millionaire could ever have so much influence over so many brain dead Americans. These people are pitiful and a disgrace to our American Democracy at best.
So only the right are brainwashed but not the left? Good one. That’s a real knee slapper. The left is brainwashed too.
That’s not what they said.
The left didn’t get led to marches and false accusations of fraud when the idiot Trump won the election after losing by 3,000,000 votes in 2016. Now he’s down 8,000,000 votes (and lost the electoral college as well) and the Trumpsters can’t accept reality. This is not a movement, it is a cult of personality.
But they did march and tried to overturn the election for over three years.
They marched because they knew what a shit show the Trump Administration was going to be, they did not March to overturn the election.
They were marching against a fear mongering bigoted elected official.
Keep it straight.
No. Democrats just managed to “nazi” the fact that a 8 years before Donald Trump supposedly invented racist dog whistles, their Empty Pantsuit was blowing racist dog whistles like Charlie Parker on the horn.
https://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/clinton-touts-white-support/
I won’t even bother you with the facts about the three US Citizens that were murdered without even a semblance of Due Process by the Nobel War is Peace Prez, or the fact that your Chocolate Jesus was the first president (that we know of) to establish kill lists with the names of US Citizens to be targeted for elimination with, as they say, “extreme prejudice.”
When Bush imprisoned Jose Padilla in 2002, Democrats made noises as though they were supporters of the Bill of Rights, but not for long. Your entire schtick is out of gas and will eventually be exposed as such.
Spot on La Mouche…
Thanks for convincing me that most Trump followers have a deep seated racism with your little “Chocolate Jesus”
comment. I rest my case! Here is a napkin so you can wipe the dribble from the corners of your mouth…..
Lemme get this straight: It was ‘a steal’, a conspiracy, a fraud. Trump lost by both the popular and electoral vote. The voters, ballots, canvassers, and election officials from coast to coast were in on the conspiracy. Foreign actors, from China to Venezuela, were in on it, as were the makers of the voting machines. Everyone was duped, plain and simple.
Trump says the proof that he didn’t lose was because he clearly should’ve won. The majority of his court cases were thrown out promptly without merit or evidence.
Stolen election? I’m not buying it. But hey, think what you want. Who cares about the facts, anyway? Facts are optional and alternative things nowadays.
These were the same idiots that said Covid was going to be gone after the election. They believe all kinds of crazy shit and the internet makes it worse when all these idiots get together and believe such outlandish lies.
460 illiterate comments, for your enjoyment!
Trump has pissed lies all over your heads for 4 years, but he is about to disappear into the annals outlining the sick history of Billionaire-Land… I’m annoyed that this is the election which just won’t die, and that idiots and their pathetic whining are still being presented as news items by the fourth estate…
Get over it, and instead, watch the geriatric president elect stumble about… Biden is pretty comical, and a great example of what too long in a public-service job can do for you… Couldn’t just stay home, spend the pensions, write a book, no, had to run for president at 78…
Biden is due to clutch his chest, fall over dead, and leave us with a communist [edit] in the white house! Kamela follows a deep tradition of being willing to say anything at all, and she is a long way from representing a forward path for women OR “african descent” humans… Kamela put more black men in prison than any other AG in history, don’t forget, and is pretty well reviled by almost everyone other than her wealthy cronies…
We are once again in the hands of the wrong leaders, and while I really didn’t want Trump to win, Biden is no improvement! Watch as he screws over the seniors, raises taxes, and bumbles around prior to his impending death…
Trumpists, your period of crazy history is over. Time to focus upon something else…
Don’t be too sure.
Trump is a media giant, a first-rate carnival barker and hustler and liar, and garnering more votes than he ever did ever before. No one can win in the populist ratings war by going up against him.
His followers think he’s God. They will do anything for him to win again– or be too afraid to cross him. At a campaign rally a few months back, he remarked he could raise more money than anyone else simply by swapping his favorable executive legislation for their hefty cash donations. You betcha that he’ll work it.
He’ll unfortunately be back with a vengeance, and with a more evil cabal of mindless acolytes and corrupt ‘pay-to play’ players for 2024. Mark my words, the evil isn’t over yet. The beast will just grow fatter and larger in four years– and then be unleashed in ways we’ve never seen before.
Nonsense. His steady diet of McDonald’s Quarter pounders, Coca Cola, beer and chicken-fat will cause him to explode into shards and fragments, like Trumplestiltskin!
Trump is a big jerk, his popularity with the idiots of Northern California aside… He’s too rich, too entitled, WAY too crooked, and much too crazy to be in charge of anything, not even his portfolio of his families ill gotten commercial real-estate and bankrupted companies…
The asshole speaks, and the stupid listen, but he won’t be back, primarily because it just cost too much! But then, Biden, as Obama said, can definitely fuck stuff up! And “Kamela the Commie” is too awful to contemplate… I guess you may be right after all, cause nobody decent wants the job!
Rusty.
From what I’ve heard by people *paying attention*, is that the majority of the evidence that indicates major discrepancies in most common voter metrics, is there are 5 key counties in 5 states that were the obvious misuse of the voter chain of custody took place.
It one thing to believe that Trump, alone, is the mortal enemy of the average person in America, it’s quite another to conflate someone who is more business minded/saavy with a more polished screen friendly political operative.
You may have justified grievances, with Trump, however the majority of political decisions that truly effect you are probably closer to home.
County and State politics are probably a better indicator of what really matters day to day.
If we all stepped back and looked at those things we attach our minds to, many of those issues are within 10, or maybe 50 mile radius from home or work.
Now, for myself, there are things that really affect my day to day life.
Ability to work, and cover my bills, and maybe save for an education for my kids,
Access to healthy food, and time to enjoy the wonderful world of Humboldt country.
If every above is handled, then I can focus on national issues.
Most of the politics are local, and if I’m not mistaken, there is a small microcosm of humans taking advantage of the power structure to forward their families up on the ladder of authority and influence.
Estelle/Michelle/Rex/John Ford/Fleming, and those people who hired to follow local laws,codes,regulations,statutes, etc.
Pay to Play.
“Lead, follow, or get out of the way. “
Tillapkl- “So only the right are brainwashed but not the left? Good one. That’s a real knee slapper. The left is brainwashed too.”
How do you arrive at this conclusion? Volumes of data (a word you should learn) support that this was an absolutely clean election. As for Trump, how is it that republicans willfully refuse to accept decades of DOCUMENTED fraudulent and unethical behavior, to a degree possibly unmatched in the history of this country (without at least going to jail), accompanied by documented psychotic behavior, reviewed and presented by hundreds of professionals, demonstrating a psychiatric profile that most closely matches serial killers (not an exaggeration), demonstrated complete lack of even rudimentary grasp of any factual data, from science to geography to history, demonstrated contempt for American soldiers who gave their all for this country, and a personal disgusting moral behavior? But Republicans, far more than Dems seem to willingly accept lies regarding the vote, without providing the tiniest shred of evidence? Dozens of reviews, many supervised by Republican public servants, have failed and failed to demonstrate all but the tiniest instances of fraud or attempted fraud, and that nearly always by Republicans!
This isn’t thinking. This is knee-jerk idiocy.
Republicans no longer represent liberty and freedom and the American way. Their behavior dangerously resembles fascism as manifest by NAZI Germany in the 1930s. Read your history. Wake up. The only book confirmed to have been in Trump’s possession and he to have likely read in the past, was an annotated copy of Hitler’s 1930s speeches.
Democrats are not perfect, unless alert at all times being subject to the same broad manipulations by the Power Elite as are Republicans, but they today far and away better represent the principles of American democracy and mutual respect. Read the warnings regarding your current behavior by T. Roosevelt, A. Lincoln, D. Eisenhower and others. All respected, some revered, Republican statesmen.
Republicans (not all obviously, but a far too large majority) demonstrate the worst aspects of confirmation bias. Accepting outlandish bombast instead of facts. Amazing. If history is any predictor (and there are copious and graphic examples if you bother to read), this behavior will be the downfall of the United States. And the odds are not in our favor. Nor do I labor under much delusion that explanation will change your bias.
From a 45-year registered Republican veteran, son of a WWII soldier, now Independent.
Did you just make all of that up?
We call that ranting…
Nah he got it straight from CNN
Well said.
Same could be said for those supporting the CHAZ/CHOP in Seattle …
Both sides have their fanatics, make no mistake.
But, yes, people are definitely brainwashed by their teLIEvisions …
We live in REPUBLIC, but only if we can keep it.
“Stupid is as stupid does.” Forrest Gump
Well, it’s certainly sad, pathetic, and heck, just silly!
Trumpers: YOUR MAN LOST!! Get over it!
Trump is the one who stole the office in the first place! His administration was a total failure. Everybody dislikes him!
Really, Biden/Harris is no better, but at least it’s someone different…
March and fuss, scream or shout, Donald Trump is out, out, out…
Maybe. But these our your neighbors and fellow Americans and they have every right to protest…even if they are protesting something as silly as the price of rutabagas in Wyoming. I don’t agree with them and I do not like Trump (or Biden for that matter). I am however fully defending them against the hate and disgusting abuse that has been heaped their way for the last 4 years. Over 70 million people-our fellow Americans- voted for Trump. I know a few! They are not all racists or stupid or whatever the angry DEMs felt comfortable and self-righteous about slinging at them. The hate was not all on Trump’s side, brothers and sisters and I hope we can be decent to each other. I don’t care who started the attacks…we will need to pull together in the future, not glibly insult and demean “the other side” because “our side” is better or more loving or whatever. That is a sad and weak approach and will fail…
👍 and thank you.
Hear, hear.
The overt racism driving Donald Trump’s campaign has its roots in a long tradition of dog whistle GOP politics: Trump stirs old racial hatred, but this time feels different: There is substantial evidence that Trump has encouraged racism and benefitted politically from it.
If these guys wanted to protest that they support the second coming of Hitler, I would disagree and call them idiots, but I would still defend their rights as free Americans to do so! That is what democracy is about, even the complete idiots and morons with low IQ’s have a right to protest their own idiot idiology. We all have a right to think and say what ever we want, this blog that Kym Kenp provides as a service to us all is a perfect example of that freedom. Thank you Kym for providing this community platform, I know of no other blog or news site with such a large following of commentators. Good job Kym Kemp. I know as a former blogger thst it is a love of the heart, a work of passion. You simply could not do this blog if you did not love what you are doing, a true labor of love. A sincere thank you to Kym Kemp!
What racism? Can you cite specific examples of it?
The Central Park 4. Birtherism. Shithole countries. People who know him and say the N word is part of his vocabulary.
Its the central park 5, not 4. Trump called for the death penalty. If you disagree that opinion, that’s fine it’s not racism. Next. These are all conjecture. I asked for specific examples, i.e. links. The birth certificate isn’t racist. He’s questioning the validity of the birth certificate itself. Next. Shit hole countries. Taken out of context like most of the video clips released by msm. Watch the entire clip. Tell me it’s still relevant. Next. What people? When did he say the “n” word? I know the TDS is hard to get over. Come back when you can actually defend your position.
Only people who ‘say the “n” word” are racist?
I don’t know. Ask thetallone. It’s their assumption, not mine. Ive known plenty of people who use the “n” word that aren’t racist and some who are. I think it’s the intent behind it that colors its meaning. Do you agree?
There is tons of evidence.
You want a confession, not evidence.
However, not even the most generally referred to racist groups ever refer to themselves as racist:
“We’re not white supremacists. We believe in our race,” said a man with a Midwestern accent and glasses just hours before a pro-Trump Klan parade in a nearby town. He, like three Klan compatriots, wore a robe and pointed hood and wouldn’t give his full name, in accordance with Klan rules.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kkk-insists-theyre-not-white-supremacists/
Yet no one will own up to being a racist. White supremacists hide behind the “alt-right” euphemism. Mr. Paladino claims his comments about Michelle Obama had “nothing to do with race.” Professional bully Donald Trump and his minions threaten the job of Jemele Hill — a black journalist who dared to call Trump what he is.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinion/op-ed/bs-ed-op-0927-racism-20170926-story.html
And if white on black racism triggers you, then just read this bit about black on white racist Louis Farrakhan:
In 2018, Farrakhan continued his anti-Semitic commentary in public appearances and on Twitter, where he warned his 335,000 followers about “the Satanic Jew.”
In an October 2018 speech marking the 23rd anniversary of the Million Man March, Farrakhan told his followers, “When they talk about Farrakhan, call me a hater, you know how they do – call me an anti-Semite. Stop it, I’m anti-termite!”
https://www.adl.org/education/resources/reports/nation-of-islam-farrakhan-in-his-own-words
Those aren’t quotes from Trump. He has not said anything racist.
That’s your projection on him. I asked for undeniable proof that TRUMP is racist. Neither you nor the msm can prove it but you keep spouting the same BS about “Trump supporters.” Those people aren’t Trump. He has disavowed white supremacy several times, including twice to Chris Wallace in both the 2016 and 2020 presidential debates. Where’s the PROOF inspector Brian? You do understand what actual evidence is, correct? Statements, physical evidence, eyewitness accounts… Not speculation!
No, you asked for a confession.
And you’ll never get one from a racist like Trump.
He’s a coward, not known for being honest.
Yes, the Central Park 5, who were exonerated of any crime and released after the real attacker confessed and his DNA was identified. Trump still, as recently as 2016 insists they were guilty. Was he being racist? Can we find an instance of him taking out a full page NYT ad calling for the death penalty for any white criminals? Not that I know of. Family member Mary Trump publically said that she heard Uncle Don use the n-word and anti-Semitic language regularly, and called him “clearly racist”. While it is true he has disavowed white supremists at times, it took him awhile to get around to it, it was not his first reaction to do so. Regarding Birtherism, again give me an instance of him making a public spectacle of questioning a white person’s birth certificate, as he did for both Obama and Kamala Harris.
It might not be hard evidence that would stand up in court-which is apparently what you want-but you put these things together and it gives you a pretty good picture.
Speculation and inference are not evidence.
True. And actions and first hand accounts are not speculation or inference.
So provide proof of said racist action and first hand accounts.
Already did.
Family member Mary Trump publically said that she heard Uncle Don use the n-word and anti-Semitic language regularly, and called him “clearly racist”.
That is a first-hand account.
There is no evidence…
Your triggered hatred is duly noted. It shows just how angry you are that diversity of opinion exists. In reality it was a fun, relaxed event where likeminded people came together to be in each other’s company and discuss things that people like yourself make sure we never get a chance to discuss anywhere else. We exercised our freedom of speech and freedom of association / assembly. We are EXACTLY what American democracy is about, and even if Trump is not in office, we will not be going away anytime soon. He gave us a voice and we will use it. Deal with it.
Yep I agree. No problem to assemble and protest. Protesting a free and clear election because you don’t agree with the results- that is a bit strange but no one on the left liked it when trump was elected either. (Although the election was accepted as real even though he lost the popular vote by several million!)
Then don’t call the outcome a “steal” and we won’ think you’re nuts. Not liking the outcome is different than promoting garbage about the integrity of our election.
You think you are going to see democrats publish their best selling how to book of 2020?
I assume Donald Trump will be publishing his next book in a trilogy called
Mein Kampf Volume 2
Just Sayin,
They don’t care what you call them or what you think. We are in the pre-bloody Kanas stage (1850) before the shooting war starts. Time to grow meat rabbits and sow veggies and teach your kids the same.
https://hereistheevidence.com/
Yes, your gathering in the name of blithering nonsense is protected free speech. Glad you had a good time.
Just don’t expect to convince anyone.
Nobody can convince anybody. Pick a side or hide, that’s all that’s left to do.
Appears they’re having a better time than the opposition who made hats to replicate their vaginas and screamed at the sky.
Yes, they’re probably more pleasant to be around. It wasn’t long before the pussy movement started turning their vitriol on each other.
We enjoy beer, and invite anybody to come enjoy it with us. We can debate some politics or just enjoy a couple tall ones. We’re quite a bit more pleasant to be around than a lot of people make us out to be.
Just don’t wear your Embrace Violence tshirt to the love fest.
There is no triggered hatred here from me: just stating the obvious that the protestors seem psychotic and brainwashed, very similar to the people who supported Jim Jones and Peoples Temple. They were willing to die for their “cause”. What could possibly be more psychotic?
Mendo,
The left could be that psychotic.
Quote By Bruce Anderson on November 25, 1998
https://www.theava.com/archives/102841
If you’re the kind of person who thinks it’s plausible that AIDS is a government plot to exterminate black people you might also think it’s likely that 20 years ago your tax money was spent on a large-scale experiment to see how American black folks would do on a remote South American homestead run by a white dope fiend. The evidence, however, is that Jones conned and bought his way into Guyana, the race card smoothing the way from Frisco to Georgetown. Race, after all, had made Jones fairly rich and, in a uniquely NorCal way, politically influential with other key race demagogues and pseudo-liberals of the day.
The Examiner, not so incidentally as things would turn out, killed stories on weird doings in Jones’ enterprise because Jones’ interracial congregation, cheered on by San Francisco’s liberal establishment, picketed the Examiner Building as Jones himself threatened to sue for libel. The Examiner caved in. Nothing but accounts of the Rev’s good works could appear in its pages. The truth came out in the now defunct California magazine.
Perhaps we should pause here to salute the Democratic Party of Northern California for their edifying role in the Jonestown murders, not that Jones wasn’t a bipartisan effort from the get-go. The fact is Jones parlayed race, and the liberal votes that go with race, into cash and carry political power. A socialist, even a Christian socialist, would have yelled loud and long about the structural causes of American poverty. Not Jones. Or Dianne Feinstein, Willy Brown, Cecil Williams, or George Moscone. Jones worked them, and they worked Jones.
end quote
By Bruce Anderson on November 25, 1998
https://www.theava.com/archives/102841
You missed the point.
Wooosh.
They were talking about cults and their followers and you twisted it into “Libs were facilitating a cult”.
Seriously, do you scour news sights all day to find editorials that back your beliefs in some way? Where do you find the time?
Actually, YOU missed the point.
Ah, yes, Bruce Anderson, noted liberal basher. Jim Jones’ cult was Christian-based, just sayin’.
Many preachers claim to be Christians that aren’t.
Wolves in sheep’s clothing.
Many golfers claim to be President that aren’t. Liars in Emperor’s clothing in it just for the money.
Mendo, didn’t ya feel the same four years ago ?
Can’t speak for Mendo, but I certainly did.
Trump brought out the very worst of our Nation! Absolutely felt the same four years ago that the “Trump Election Engineers”: Media and Trumps psychiatrists working on his election campaign were definitely involved is a psy-ops campaign using an extremely wealthy TV personality, racism, scape goat-ism that seemed to come straight from the works of the Nazi campaign that Adolf Hitler used to gain power. The scape-goat-ism that all of our problems were because of a particular ethnic people; the illegals and criminal latinos coming across the border” …. straight outta Hitlers rise to power. Then the Trump flags, 2 million distributed, completely reminded me of the Nazi Flags of Germany, No candidate for presidency had ever made up their own flags, then there was the FOX network which became the equivalent of a “Nazi State Broadcast”… right down to the blonde hair blue eyed news “reporters”. The brainwashing across the electronic impulses of light on the HD LED Screens provided the atmosphere for perfect and complete brain washing. The fact that so much of Trumps appeal for most people was based in their deep subconscious hatred and racism which prevails at the core of their upbringing and decision making, they may claim to be non-racists, but at the core of every Trump supporter is deep seated hatred and deep seated racism and resentment as well as deep seated xenophobia against people of other cultures, languages and nationalities.
That’s got to be one of the most deranged screeds I’ve ever read. Trump had campaign flags? Shocking! Blonde, blue-eyed eye candy reporters? Say it ain’t so!
Please explain how an appeal to “deep subconscious hatred and racism” gained Trump more minority support than any Republican since 1960 in 2020.
No explanation needed. He openly courted them with his bigoted bullshit. Are you pretending we weren’t paying attention ?
How is it bigoted? Did you completely misread what thirdeye said? He was talking about minorities! D’oh!
Please supply facts for your post, otherwise it’s merely your TDS opinion…
Well said mendo! Worthless human beings!
So veterans are a disgrace to their country because they think differently than you do, well I sure hope you can find it in your entitled heart to remember if it wasn’t for veterans you wouldn’t be able to say such things. I for one as a vet myself thank you for using your rights so many have fought for and died , regardless of how little you were able to learn while in school, I am certain your entire family is proud of you for being so brave as to type such things on the internet.
Dis-grace -Lack of grace, as in “Trump did not gracefully concede when he lost the board game to President Elect Biden”…. so yeah dis-grace-ful. Or full of disgrace… understand the true definition?
You’re the one who used the word against over 75 million Americans for making a different presidential choice than yours.
Please, Trump and his followers have been calling the “Libs “ names all along. Now your all of a sudden shocked that some people have a few choice words for Trumpers ? Where have you been.? Trump has no respect for civil discourse but the “Libs “ are supposed to?
Wow what doublespeak. Way to flip it! I applaud your Orwellian ways, so powerfully consistent and twisted. The media and your ilk have been calling Trump supporters white supremacists and nazis for 4 years!! Go cry lefty! I love to drink liberal tears! [edit]
Yes, you’re pleasant remarks prove my point. Thank you.
The only people crying right now is Trump and his supporters. You know the tough guy “patriots”😢
We’re merely Patriots…No violence, fires or graffitti…
And no evidence either. Carry on great “patriots”. Stop the steal. Maga 2024. Did I miss any other talking points. Oh yeah when is Powell going to release the “kraken” ?
I am a veteran and I don’t think most veterans have Trump the draft dodgers back. He repeatedly talked crap about POWs as losers if their caught so don’t assume veterans are for trump and his little desk.
I thought the oath is to the Constitution not a person.
“…to accept Joe Biden as our legitimate Chief Executive, we must believe the voters hammered the Democrats in congressional, state, and local elections, yet decided to elect the “leader” of their party president.
We must believe that (Biden) dramatically underperformed among minority voters, yet received 10 million more votes than Barack Obama.
We must believe that virtually all of the reliable election bellwethers were wrong.
We must believe that all of the elections in the swing states were conducted honestly and that the Venezuelan software used to tabulate the votes was secure.
All of this beggars belief. Joe Biden may be inaugurated in January, but he certainly wasn’t elected president.“
https://tennesseestar.com/2020/11/27/commentary-what-we-must-believe-to-believe-biden-won/?fbclid=IwAR22beS8ggrPWRjkmh1ezvdNMZHPRbt-0FrbZ5WGV6GxF9AIojnNacl3fzg
It was reported in well renowned ‘The Tennessee Star‘ a pillar of journalism worldwide. 😂😂🤣
So what don’t you find factual about that statement? Can you provide a counter argument instead of attacking the validity of the messenger?
Don’t let independent journalism cloud the truth!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1327684156340326402
You have to read Tennessee news to see dribble like that…. 🤪🤪🤪
Mendo and Gruest – This commentary was published in many different news sources in America and throughout the world. The Tennessee Star just picked it up. Imagine that, those hicks actually read! I thought they just made shine and sat in trees and played banjoes.
Would you say that “Red-Headed Blackbelt” is a pillar of journalism worldwide? Oh, not really? Well then, we should really just dismiss it as “dribble”, huh.
So much for your elitist smear of a local newspaper. I daresay Pravda and the Pyongyang Times have a wider readership. Jesus, let’s kill the messenger. What a pathetic argument.
And by the way, I believe the word you are reaching for is “drivel”. Dribble is something people do, not read. Maybe more reading on your part is in order.
Your “evidence” is an option piece written by a tax dodge/ deadbeat dad and published on his own personal blog.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Gill
Once again, kill the messenger. You haven’t addressed the article, you have attacked the author.
News Flash: Five studies have just concluded that Wikipedia has a leftist slant. This isn’t news to conservatives, we’ve known it for a long time. Of course, you won’t have heard that, that’s news to you, huh, the MSM won’t have carried that story. Doesn’t it ever feel odd, knowing that your news is so heavily censored? Deliberately keeping you from knowing what is really going on out there? Do you never wake in the night and wonder, What if I’m wrong, and it’s all a huge, well-planned, carefully constructed fiction? And we’re being duped? What if it’s true that it’s all a lie…an Orwellian lie…
I don’t know how you sleep. All that truth buzzing around, gotta shut it up.
So perhaps, for you, censorship is comforting, a nice soft pillow, great ears muffs, nice relaxing eye shades. Happy little sheep, no thought of the day of slaughter approaching. Just keep believing.
All will be well.
Time has a way of waking people up. But for all too many, maybe for all of us, by then it’s too late.
Conjecture is not evidence. Opinion is not evidence. An opinion piece written by a Trump campaign surrogate who didn’t disclose his relationship to the campaign is not evidence. Trump’s allagations have been thrown out of every court they’ve seen.
>”We must believe that (Biden) dramatically underperformed among minority voters, yet received 10 million more votes than Barack Obama. ”
Sorry. Lots of democrats (well, back then) wouldn’t vote for a black.
Neither was Trump. He LOST the election!
Its obvious the democrats fraudulently influenced the election. America has finally made the transition to a third world country. There is nothing psychotic about it.
So obvious. Where’s the evidence?
https://www.scribd.com/document/486105599/Affidavit-of-Dr-Navid-Keshavarz-Nia-Phd#fullscreen&from_embed
This proves the election was rigged.
4 weeks after the election and Trumps lawyers are 1-40 in their lawsuits. You better alert Rudy’s fraud hotline to your discovery.
No it doesn’t.
There is 0 evidence in this Scribd document.
I guess you haven’t read it but saw the link in a Global Research/infowars article.
Pollsters had Joe Biden with a 90% chance of winning the last election, and a 60% chance of sweeping house and senate. Anyone who was paying attention to *good* polling were not surprised that Biden won, but how close it actually was, and how bad democrats did in down ballot races.
“Its obvious”
Show me the proof! Its obvious!
What is obvious is there are proportionately brainwashed people who were so thoroughly indoctrinated by the mass media and Trumps psy-ops program that many will now need counseling and mental health evaluations due to their inability to sense reality from fiction. Living in a complete illusion that Trump won and America is being “taken over” and this is the “end of democracy and the end of the USA” is some pretty heavy thought for the mind to digest…
If you are a Trump Supporter, and you are experiencing any of rhe below symtoms, then you really should seek the help of a trained health care provider or psychiatrist: Are you a Trump Supporter who is experiencing :
Behavioral: social isolation, disorganized behavior, aggression, agitation, compulsive behavior, excitability, hostility, repetitive movements, self-harm, or lack of restraint
Cognitive: thought disorder, delusion, amnesia, belief that an ordinary event has special and personal meaning, belief that thoughts aren’t one’s own, disorientation, mental confusion, slowness in activity, or false belief of superiority
Mood: anger, anxiety, apathy, feeling detached from self, general discontent, loss of interest or pleasure in activities, elevated mood, or inappropriate emotional response
Psychological: hallucination, paranoia, hearing voices, depression, fear, persecutory delusion, or religious delusion
Speech: circumstantial speech, incoherent speech, rapid and frenzied speaking, or speech disorder
Also common: fatigue, impaired motor coordination, lack of emotional response, or memory loss…
These are all signs of onset of schizophrenia , you should seek medical help immediately!
You’re good a rapid fire gaslighting as shown in my post on Jim Jones maybe you need some of the services you recommend to others.
Disease = Dis Ease.
Trumpers on this blog and Loco are EXPERTS at gaslighting. It’s what they do because have little credible arguments. All we hear is- Communism, Socialism, Hunter Biden, it was stolen but we can’t prove it, Hilarys emails, Hunter Biden ( which one of you hilariously contends is going to get Biden impeached) more socialism, more communism, some more Hunter Biden and some more Stolen Election which you, Trump, his band of clown lawyers and sycophants can’t prove in a court of law. 40 times so far.
HotCoffee, don’t waste your breath. I stopped reading at “indoctrinated by the mass media” – I was falling out of my chair. Remember what Einstein said about the infinity of human stupidity. And the Pew Research Center just concluded that liberals are more prone to mental illness, so…can’t fix crazy AND stupid.
https://notthebee.com/article/pew-study-indicates-leftism-is-literally-a-mental-illness-
But pretending that an expert con man, pathological liar, sexual predator, emotionally unfit grifter who begged other countries to help him steal an election is the best person to lead this country doesn’t reveal just a bit mental illness in itself?
Seriously?? The level of denial in just who Donald Trump truly is is astounding.
I’ll just leave this here.
https://zenfounder.com/staying-healthy/the-downside-of-a-high-iq/#:~:text=The%20highly%20intelligent%20have%20also,stress%20response%20in%20the%20body.
I am at ease, smoking a very good Doobie of some Ice Cream Cake & enjoying the daily comedy show here on the Best Blog on the West Coast ; Kym Kemp’s “Redhead Blackbelt”. I find more entertainment here on this blog than in watching television! Thank you Trump followers for hours of laughs and good times. You all very hilarious. I am still waiting for the millions of pages of proof of how Biden and Dems Cheated out poor victim Donald Trump out of the White House. Donald Trump is now a victim and martyr. Poor Donald Trump!
Funny cause cause when I smoke a nice dobbie it doesn’t send me into delusions of fake Psychiatry.
I noticed you didn’t comment on the fact that Jim Jones was supported by Dems that just wanted the votes from the poor, POC and of course their welfare checks after trying to gaslight that it was Republicans.
Well POC have caught on to your shuck and jive.
Just carry on with your BS but…..
Be patient sometimes the truth takes awhile to surface especially when blowhards try so hard to hide it.
Well, at least you came up with something new to blame the Dems for (🤪) besides the old dusty Righty refrain about the Dems creating the KKK.
Hmmmmmm, how long ago was the Jim Jones tragedy, like 50 years ago????? You have anything more recent to rag about?
I’ve never heard a Democrat defend Jim Jones once it was clear his church was a suicide cult. Republicans still LOVE David Koresh, though.
If it is obvious…why can only Trump supporters (and not all of them) see it?
You sure delete a lot of posts. I thought you were supposed to be neutral?
What post of yours is missing?
Why? Because the Democrats won so they must have cheated! How about in the states Chump lost even those Republicans were smart enough to know he was a crappy person and a horrible president! An embarrassment to the party!!
Winning!
Amen!
Waiting for Trump to reveal all the evidence of how Biden and Democrats stole the election.
As we waited 4+ years and counting for Adam Shiffty’s evidence in plain sight.
https://www.scribd.com/document/486105599/Affidavit-of-Dr-Navid-Keshavarz-Nia-Phd#fullscreen&from_embed
This will prove to you that the election was rigged. Biden did not win.
Sorry to go off subject but my sister use to call a Wandering Jew a Peripatetic Gentile…
He’s conjecturing (without any direct evidence of fraud) that in-person voting is unreliable. So why has the Trump campaign been going exclusively after mail-in ballots?
This document has ZERO evidence.
Get a grip.
A quick check on the Google refutes Kim’s claim that the PA. Supreme Court’s justices were appointed by republicans. The justices are elected in a partisan election. 5 as Democrats,1 appointed by the democratic governor and 1 republican.
My apologies Zach, I missed that you were speaking to me here.
Hey Kim,Please fact check this article concerning the Pa. Supreme Court being appointed by republicans.
Zach, my apologies. I incorrectly wrote Pennsylvania Supreme Court. It was actually the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals. “[T]e Third Circuit is a federal appellate court with appellate jurisdiction. It hears appeals from all of the circuit courts within its jurisdiction and its rulings may be appealed to the Supreme Court of the United States.” https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Third_Circuit#:~:text=The%20United%20States%20Court%20of,has%2014%20authorized%20judicial%20posts.
You can read the decision here: https://www2.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/203371np.pdf These are the three judges–“SMITH, Chief Judge, and CHAGARES and BIBAS,” looking here you can see the judges and who they were appointed by. Smith was appointed by George W Bush as was Chagares. Bibas was appointed by Trump. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Third_Circuit
Fanatical? Just remember how we republican Trump supporters have been treated for the last 4 years. Remember the word RESIST. Now you smug Bidenettes are going to start paying $600 a month more in Taxes, because Biden is going to take away your tax breaks given to you by Trump. And we will resist. We will oppose everything this #Not my president Biden tries to do to us. Wait till your gas prices go up because of the no fracking bans. Wait till Iran gets a nuke? So nice to see us take out Iran’s nuke Dr. They or we did it with an unmanned weapon, very cool. And Trump isn’t going anywhere, he will be right in Biden’s and his cronies faces, exposing their failures everyday. You have a job now, wait till Biden and his Bidenettes get done with the economy, soup lines baby. We told you so will be in your face soon, suck it up.
Sigh…the tax cuts that the GOP like to tout for the middle class will sunset out in five years, even as they diminish every year. For the very wealthy, the same tax cuts will not. Isn’t that nice…for the 1% (actually the top fifth get 2/3rds of the benefits)
Not to mention the royal pain in the rear of the new “schedules”….it’s even more paper work than before (self-employed). Ridiculously so, I might add, more than twice the actual paper than before.
As for being treated badly…remember that Trump/Pence “Fu*k Your Feelings” t-shirt? Oh how many times did I hear “Suck it up Buttercup” or was called a snowflake….or that I had a mental disease because I was a lib. It was especially offensive to me, because while they were telling me and mine we weren’t “real Americans”, my son is a serving Marine, a 4th generation one at that, as well as a Democrat. We weren’t “real Americans” because we didn’t support a lying, draft dodging, shady businessman with a long history of failure and connections to criminals.
I still am gobsmacked that ANYONE could not see what a horrible person Trump is. I’ve known it for decades.
Oh, speaking of Trump. He claimed that Obama didn’t win the election in 2012. That Obama didn’t get the popular vote and that the electoral college needed to go. Obama did win the popular vote. But Trump insisted that that election was…wait for it…RIGGED!!!
Of course, in 2016 he also claimed that the Iowa caucus, that Ted Cruz won, was RIGGED and Ted Cruz stole it. And then, when he didn’t win the popular vote, he loved the same electoral college he said should be eliminated 4 years before. But 2016 was RIGGED according to him, even though he won because of the EC.
Fast forward to 2020, it’s RIGGED!!!!! Mail in ballots are RIGGED!!! (except in Utah, of course, where he won). Or that even the Republican Trump supporting Governor of Georgia is now on his sh*t list and part of the “conspiracy”.
Are you seeing the pattern yet?
Me? I’m still waiting with bated breath for those investigators he sent to Hawaii to expose Obama as not being born in the United States.
“I have people that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they’re finding.”
Those “investigators” must have found a nice sandy beach and never come back. (They never existed) He lies (yes, all politicians stretch the truth) all the time. He makes sh*t up all the time. With an ease I found astounding. Though what I find even more astounding is the number of people who buy his lies.
But to quote that T-shirt I mentioned…no, I won’t. But I am enjoying seeing the tables turned. I’ll be honest about that.
Angela,
Best to you and your family.
I love your comments and appreciate your intelligence, experiences and POV.
Thanks for continuing to add them here for others to learn from.
I agree.
Me too
Complete communist coup attempt, we must fight to the death to stop this corrupted election attempt to steal our country. Treason is Treason and their all guilty, democrats, the media all the paid off republican governors.. it is so obvious.. A two year old can see it, but democrats are so full of their own bs, they refuse to see reality and sit in their made up world of false truths.
Humor this response if you will, and please understand that I write this not out of anger, but as a simple question hopeful of a civil and thoughtful response: If you come away with anything from the 2020 Presidential election remember this axiom or childhood phrase, and I hope you understand that it is not my intent to placate you: ‘what goes around comes around‘, and here’s why: If you truly believe that this is a win for the left/democrats you’re mistaken, this is simply a poorly thought out, poorly designed and short sighted attempt to change the outcome of the American majority vote. The only thing that this Terry McCauliff (sic), George Soros Influenced cabal has actually accomplished is the opening of a Pandora’s Box type scenario that can only end in a mutually destroyed republic behind a civil war. But there is more to this, please read on.
Do you – the writer – honestly believe that close to 80 million (if not many more) Americans are just going to sit back and allow for the largest and most egregious election fraud in American history to simply unfold without a response?
Not only was this coup suppressed by 99% of all media platforms, but it was perpetrated with such an overt sloppiness that one has to wonder if the subversive force(s) behind this fraudulent election designed it for those exact results – a civil war.
Again please humor this response further and think out of the box for a moment: there are a great many people, not born in this country, not patriots, who hate what America represents, what it’s accomplished in its short 244-year-old existence, and what lay ahead for this “great experiment”republic that has so greatly flourished and succeeded. There are a faction of people inside and outside of our government that want globalization – one law, one world. However, their desires are for a 2-class system – the ruling elite, and the working class, or the followers.
My question to you is this: do you really want to live in a world that is ruled by a handful of despotic dictators? A world where freedom, individualism, and ambition is subjugated, corralled, and penalized under the pretense of fascism? Or would you rather live in a country where debate, freedom of speech and the right to fair and honest elections are the laws of the land?
This fraudulent election wasn’t simply about the Presidency, if you believe that then you are either short sighted, purposely misinformed, or as you write – “brainwashed”. No, this clear and intentional crime was designed and perpetrated with one endgame in mind: the future of America, torn apart from within and this election was just the opening volley.
History is a powerful tool, look no further than Russia early 20th century, then move forward to the 2020 election, and you will see, not only the future of America, but a massive attempt at globalization that will have catastrophic affects on the world we have accepted and live in as a whole.
Mitch McConnel accepts the election. The Supreme Court with a massive conservative majority accepts the election. Over 50 judges have rejected Trump’s suit. And yet you think the dictator is the person who won the election not the person who is falsely claiming fraud with no evidence that any court will accept or any respectable news organization will back… .?
The evidence is overwhelming against claims of fraud yet you believe that it happened. You can hate globalization and think the vote outcome is wrong but if you believe in facts and evidence…you are going to have to accept that Trump, a polarizing figure at best, lost the election.
So you want to discount all of the poll
Watchers who have come forward with the same claims of voter fraud – in every state contested by the way – just say it never happened because why? Because the media isn’t talking about it? What about the Dominion machines? They were designed to blow back 1 out of every 4 votes Once this “glitch” was identified the vote had to be “checked“ and “verified” by the alleged poll “supervisors“ These supervisors after “investigating” the alleged “glitch” cast the vote as they saw it – WITHOUT supervision. Why not look elsewhere for the proof, you so vehemently deny, than CNN, MSNBC, et al and then maybe you can make a smarter and more informed point. No proof? Really?
I didn’t look to MSNBC or CNN. I very rarely read them. I read the Supreme Court’s refusal to hear the case. I saw Attorney General William Barr (a partisan hack for Trump) declare there was no election fraud. I read of the Team of international observers declare there was no fraud.
I can’t tell you how much I love your responses to these posts, and other posts I’ve read. You’re a very good journalist and the best in Humboldt. We need to support our democratic values and RHBB.
Have you been in the military. If so I salute you. If not do more research
Who pays the taxes for the all the money he is using for his agenda. I was in USAF for awhile. And I am so proud of all of Americans who have served this country in the military . One of the officers in the Air Force No NAME WILL BE GIVEN. He was a fighter pilot in 1969. In 1972 during the Vietnam war. He flew his F4 11,000 miles to Vietnam. He received the distinguished Flying Cross and nine Air Medals. After his travel to Vietnam he returned to the US where he served his country as an Air Force Chaplain where I first met him at Plattsburgh Air Force Base. Now closed. His motto was “What’s really important in life.” The only Air Force Plane was the back section of the plane where I could see the fuel tube as it was slowly dropped the refueling tube on the portal to fuel the fighter jet. I took pictures of the refueling process including the helmets of the two pilots. I used a Kodak camera old but it worked.
It is a great comedy show however! 🤣😅🤣😅🤣😅🤣😅🤣🤧🤪🤪🤪
Stupid Spreader Event..
Said Commander McBragg.
So Republicans want us to believe there were 6 million fake votes cast, most cast in person, set up by some shady group in all 50 states, and so slick that Trumps FBI and Dept of Homeland Security and numerous different state agencies can’t even find any evidence of it? And now that almost all of his lawsuits have been dismissed for lack of evidence or lost, most of his lawyers quit or were fired, that it’s legal and appropriate to cancel entire states election results, and just give him all the electors for those states? When votes get invalidated, the opponent doesn’t just get them automatically…its not how elections work. This is nothing but election interference…why doesn’t he stop obsessing and do his job? Covid vaccine distribution, stimulus checks, small business help from Covid losses…theres a bunch of things he COULD be working on to help Anericans…but no..
Simple math makes it obvious that there are many fraudulent votes.
No, it doesn’t.
See how that works? If you just make a bald assertion but don’t offer any support, then your assertion isn’t taken seriously. Please try to research and offer support for your opinions.
Yeah; every judge, including ones appointed by trump, like judge Brann have concluded that there is no evidence at all of any widespread fraud. These people are the absolute scum at the very bottom of the gene pool.
Scum??? Nice. but we had to hear about Russia for 4 yrs. O and all the other bull shit that our president was accused of over the last 4 yrs.
And proof is what your after all of a sudden.
Since you seem to have forgotten…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_charges_brought_in_the_Special_Counsel_investigation_(2017%E2%80%932019)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_America_News_Network#Russia
Oh, so there were charges for process crimes in response to the bogus investigation.
A “crime” and a “process crime” is a distinction without a difference. Operating as an unregistered foreign agent (spy) and lying under oath are illegal. The democratic “witch hunt,” ran by a Republican, turned up a lot more legit witches than 8 years of Benghazi and Emails.
Conspiricy, obstruction of justice, tax fraud, bank fraud and failing to register as a foreign agent are not “process crimes.”
All over-charges for process crimes and some clearly without foundation.
You don’t know what “process crime” means. The Mueller investigation was looking for Russian influence peddling, fraud, and money laundering and that’s what it found.
3rd eye is in a hard denial stage of Rusdian meddling.
No amount of official bodies on either political spectrum will convince 3rd eye otherwise.
Equally rotten.
https://electionwiz.com/2020/11/28/the-election-from-hell-a-sampling-of-irregularities-and-suspect-events/
Matt Barnyard is a Trump aide. His “evidence” has already gone to court and failed to meet muster, because its nothing but conjecture.
Exactly right Kym!
Even though I truely believe they are brainwashed fools, I would defend their right to peacefully assemble and protest, (even though it is obvious they are suffering from the effects of a psy-ops program which used mass media and psychiatrists to get their support) As free Americans it is each and everyone of our rights to go into the streets, in front of the court houses and protest the amount of cheese mcdonalds uses on their cheese burgers, thats our god given constitutional right
We do have proof. You just don’t want to hear it because it is so obvious. Have you listened to the testimonies of so many people in the hearings at Arizona, Michigan, and Pennsylvania? From people who were on site, saying that this the most fraudulent election that we have ever seen?
Can you please just look past your own bias to see the facts? Instead of reading news from horribly liberal sites that offer NO EVIDENCE THAT THIS WAS A CLEAN ELECTION, please consider looking at other sites that offer statistics, science, and actual common sense, to prove that President Trump indeed won. Why don’t you listen to actual people instead the media? Have you been listening to the CNN tapes that have been released? They knew Biden was not going to win fairly, but of course they covered it up.
If you would please listen to this (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1334001184298905601), the whole way through, it does provide proof that this election was fraudulent. So please stop saying that we have no proof. Because we do.
I’m not trying to be combative, but this is getting ridiculous. Whether you like it or not, we have proof. So a more accurate question is: Exactly how much fraud was there, and because there was fraud on the Democrat Party’s part, should THEY be the ones to concede the election?
“Can you please just look past your own bias to see the facts?”
President Trump’s handpicked Attorney General William Barr stated emphatically, “To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.”
The conservative Wall Street Journal says, “The new litigation follows a string of unsuccessful lawsuits elsewhere and comes after every major battleground state has certified results showing Mr. Biden won the election, leaving Mr. Trump with no known path to reversing the outcome in the courts.” https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-campaign-files-more-election-challenges-in-wisconsin-michigan-11606849219
Yes, I can’t really argue too much with that. I don’t know enough about Mr. Barr to determine whether he is saying this in truth or not. However, we should not overlook the fact that Mr. Biden and Mr. Barr have known each other for a long time. At one time, Mr. Biden praised Mr. Barr, but in 2019, he said that Mr. Barr should resign (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/in-the-1990s-joe-biden-said-william-barr-was-one-of-the-best-attorney-generals/). Mr. Barr has been pretty open about wanting to stay attorney general, so this MAY be a ploy by Mr. Barr to regain Mr. Biden’s favor. Again, that is just a possibility. I can’t say that for certain. Thank you for linking that article for me.
Actually, the lawsuits are not completely unsuccessful. At the state level, yes, they are not doing so well. However, there may be a different ruling if they reach the Supreme Court in time. Honestly, President Trump can keep fighting until December 8th or 14th (I don’t remember the exact date), and even if battleground states certify their votes, he can actually appeal those decisions until the electors send their votes in.
And I’m sorry for being so inflammatory. I had no right to pen that statement when I am biased myself. For that, I would like to apologize.
I appreciate the kindly worded reply. Thank you.
It will certainly be interesting to see how this plays out in the days and months ahead.
Care to fill us in on this simple math ? It is almost 4 weeks since the election, when will all of this fraud/stop the steal be explained?
America at it’s best. Right to free speech and right to protest peacefully. Done today.
Benford’s law is the math. China has a lot riding on a Biden win. So does Iran. The core security officer for the voting machine company claimed trump would not win, he made sure of it on his facebook page. People can argue all they want but the evidence is in, army special forces got the servers in germany. It will take time to go through the courts.
The evidence is in. Yet Trump and his lawyers have lost almost 40 cases in court. When are they going to do the big reveal?
Then you failed math.
Simple minds have simplistic answers. It’s the only level they can understand.
I think you need to re-examine what you deem as “lack of evidence”. Look no further than Dominion, how the machines ‘individual votes ballots’ were designed for failure in order to then be scrutinized. Once those “failed” or questionable votes were “examined”, without oversight mind you, they were then re-cast by the states election monitors – again WITHOUT oversight from GOP monitors. Curious? Isn’t it odd that all of the states in question were bellwether or swing states? There are so many more overt pieces of evidence proving a perpetrated fraud – that you choose to ignore because of your obvious fanatical hatred of the candidate – but what would be the point? What you fail to understand is that 80 million Americans see this for what it is, and this WILL come back to bite all of the libs and dems who have Signed this agreement with the devil. If you think this is a one-off and fraud will never ever happen again, certainly not to their candidate and in their lifetime, well you just wait and see what you’ve so blatantly have signed on for. This is not over, in fact, this is just the beginning of the end of a once great republic. There is no turning back now, so yes,
while the popcorn is popping I’ll lock my doors and hold dear to my 2nd amendment rights, because, as we’ve all witnessed in the last 11 months, the ANTIFA/BLM crowd likes to strike when no one is watching. This time however, the now – extremely angry silent majority – is wide awake [edit]
That theory about Dominion voter fraud comes from QAnon, which has promulgated a series of debunked and frankly embarrassing theories which have not been supported by evidence.
“The Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council Executive Committee and the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council said in a statement that election security officials have no evidence that ballots were changed, deleted or lost by voting systems in the Nov. 3 U.S. election, which they described as “the most secure in American history.“ https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-dominion/fact-check-dominion-is-not-linked-to-smartmatic-antifa-or-venezuela-did-not-switch-u-s-2020-election-votes-in-virginia-and-was-not-subject-to-a-u-s-army-raid-in-germany-idUSKBN2861TB
Shock and awe are in store for everyone who thinks SleepyBiden won. Let the lip[edit] do their fake news videos and how the country will be better without Trump and Make America Great Again. Each time a swing state declares “there was no fraud” in a filed court case, this claim is moved upwards by Trump’s attorneys to finally reach the Supreme Court. This is a well orchestrated chess game by the Republican party and the results will be a decision by the Supreme Court to nullify the election and declare Trump the winner.
The Dominion voting machines, the software/computers in Frankfurt Germany have been seized by the DOD just a few days ago, and the thousands of affidavits (swing states) stating fraud are the proof needed in the courts. Start hiding lib[edit] who caused this fraud-you will be found guily of treason and sedition. 73 million Trumpers are waiting the final verdict by the Supreme Court. We are quiet and know our President Trump won by a avalanche of votes
How much you wanna bet ? When will Powell release the “kraken”? America is waiting on pins and needles. What a bunch of loser “patriots”.
“Start hiding libtards who caused this fraud-you will be found guily of treason and sedition. 73 million Trumpers are waiting the final verdict by the Supreme Court. We are quiet and know our President Trump won by a avalanche of votes” Is this a threat you dumbass? If so take yer ignorant supporters and crawl off to die all cold and alone! 73 would sure help the rest of us live on in a healthy educated trump[edit] free world!! And hurry, my show’s about to start!
Ah, the tolerant left, exhibiting its unity, peace, and love, eh? Not that it clearly matters to you, but those 73 million Americas you’d like to see “crawl off and die in cold and alone” pay an absolute fortune in taxes every year into the system that supports jerks just like you.
Don’t forget Trump supporters own roughly 3 firearms for every .5 biden supporters do
So you are willing to go to war for this clown? He’s just a con man who knows how to control media and play off peoples weaknesses. He will go away like fraudsters before him and we will become a normal nation again. This will be remembered as a sad chapter of American weakness, brought along by the electoral college, which will hopefully go away soon also.
‘They’ve got the guns, but we’ve got the numbers…’ -JIM MORRISON
There may be no choice. The people who value the Constitution are seeing a dangerous rise is in Blue Shirts. The comments here are simoly an indicator of division. I hope you on the left are willing to fight for communist principles.
‘They’ve got the guns, but we’ve got the numbers…’ -JIM MORRISON
Kind of like China where 6.6% of the population controls the other 93.4%. Guess which side has the guns? Hmmmm
Less that 1% own all of the wealth. Yet most Trump supporters think it is them. The 1% know that it’s all too easy to control them.
Yes, they are. That’s how deep the cult following goes.
Absolutely, we will not let socialism stand. Sorry you are a traitor to this country that has more in common with xi or putin. You should’ve thought about the consequences to your actions of demonizing half the country for 4 years and trying to pull a bullshit coup on a sitting president with a bogus russia investigation. This is where we stand. After your commie-elect stole the election and asked for unity you still can’t drop the bulldog act. We are done being nice and will no longer take the high road. Are YOU ready>?
Tough talk. Your guy lost, even after every dirty trick, closing polling places, crippling the mail and on and on. You gonna kill your fellow man over that? Is that what you’re saying?
Are you seriously threatening Democrats with shooting them?? You sound like you’re drunk on orange koolade.
I hope you are on a watch list somewhere.
Do you understand Social Security and Medicare, Medicaid and unemployment benefits are all socialism?
Tough guy here watch out everyone.
Liberalism is not socialism or communism. It is the dominant form of capitalism on the planet. If you’re going to get so worked up over politics that you’re threatening to murder people online, you could at least look these terms up in a dictionary.
AGREE 100% with you 1911! They did it all because they could and now they’re about to find out what 4 years of BS investigations, lies, sedition, and treasonous acts bring about. They asked for it – the Pelosi’s and the Holder’s and the Obama’s and the Schiff’s and the Schumer’s and the Clinton’s, and I could go on and on – and they’re about to see what the once silent majority is really capable of, and it isn’t going to be pretty. They haven’t yet seen what “going low” really means, but they’re about to.
“Go to war for this clown”? Uhhh hello, it’s not about one candidate winning or losing you damn fool, it’s about preserving our once great republic. You can’t just lie and cheat and steal an election because you just don’t like a candidate! That’s not how America was built, nor can she survive a system predicated upon voter fraud!
You’ve all just opened a door that should’ve remained locked and barricaded for so many obvious reasons. Am I for the anarchy that is about to be unleashed against left of left liberal America, hell no! You see I was a first responder at ground zero and remained there for 18, 14-hour days and nights. I was a NYC detective during the 1980’s and 90’s when lawlessness ruled the city. I saw what the Timothy McVee’s are capable of. Do I want to wake that angry beast again? Absolutely not because I’ve seen the horrors that are elicited from the chaos.
So what do the elitist limousine libs and dems do? They defy the law of the land because they can, and what exactly do they think they’ve accomplished behind this poorly planned heist? Winning a lame duck presidential seat? No, they have simply given credence to what is about to happen in, and to – America. Can any of you libs guess what that might be?
Well sit back and get comfortable, because it’s going to be a long and ugly show. Hope you all enjoy what you have created!
If the socialism some seem to want so badly takes hold, perhaps you will get your 73 million dead. Stalin and Mao put up some big numbers of dead.
Seriously? You’re that frightened?
You don’t need to project feelings onto me.
What is it they say about those who don’t know history? Something about being doomed to repeat it?
Yeah, let us know when your doomsday prophecy happens. …
You do understand that the threat of socialism is a Republican talking point, not based in reality, don’t you?
The closest thing to what the democrats are moving towards is a Northern European style democracy, which is much more egalitarian and better for the middle class than the shitshow we have here now. Look at Denmark, Iceland or Sweden if you want to see where the dems are heading. Not Venezuela, which is what the republican press wants to talk about.
So when did Venezuela finally collapse?
UM, when Maduro lost control of the country’s oil.
Sound familiar?
It is based in reality. Please look at the history about Democratic dealings with China: https://libertyhorn.com/democrats-and-communist-china-are-tied-at-the-hip-and-here-is-the-proof/.
Also, HotCoffee is right. One of the principles of Marxism is that if you control the energy, you control the people. Did you know that the government itself won’t be using green energy? It will be using fossil fuels, after we are banned from using them. They don’t care about the environment; they’re politicians that only want power.
Any restrictions that Democrats put on anything will lead to socialism, then communism. Did you know that China still declares itself to be a socialist state? Interesting.
Wikipedia describes the Nordic Model (what Finland, Denmark, etc. adopted) to be “a system of competitive capitalism combined with a large percentage of the population employed by the public sector.” This is not what Democrats want; they are trying to make the government own everything in people’s lives. It is not the same thing at all.
Yeah,sure buddy. Well be waiting for this big reveal that never materializes long after Trump is buried in indictments and lawsuits.
LOL 😂
So in the states that he won, how hard is he fighting for voter fraud and how many lawsuits has he filed in those states?
Exactly. North Carolina was closer than PA, but since tRump won NC everything is a ok. I have never seen a bigger bunch of whiny losers then these rTump apologists. Yet they say they are the real “patriots”.
I wanted Trump to win. Now I think he just needs to get over himself! Its embarrassing!
I am sorry did you look in the mirror in the last four years. I believe you would’ve seen a whiner. Nothing but whining and yelling from Democrats for the last four years.
All Democrats. Stereotype much ?I didn’t whine. Trump beat Clinton fair and square. Clinton’s arrogance had a lot to do with her loss. Trump totally out campaigned her. Now this year Trump lost. It is plain to any sane person IMO.
She did lose but.. popular vote win by three million. That does matter to most people. It’s tough to reconcile three million votes, and say they don’t matter. Wouldn’t you agree? We all know ‘that’s how it works’ but if it were the other way around I wonder what trump voters would have said?
I agree. But a lot of people knew Trump had a good chance of winning because of the electoral college. Most experts knew he would lose the popular and he did. Just like 2020, Trump had no chance of winning the popular vote, yet the outcome was not a done deal because it all came down to the 8-10 swing states. How Trump voters would view a reversal where he wins the popular vote but loses the electoral votes? I have no idea. Based on Trumpers reaction to this year’s election, I can only imagine the “outrage”.
As there should be…Votes should count equally. It’s an outrage that a Wyoming voter has 3 and 1/2 times as much power in an election as a California voter.
Nope
You don’t think every persons vote should be equal? How does that make any sense? Isn’t a democracy majority rule? The last 2 republican presidents have lost the popular vote. This country would be so much better off without the electoral college.
We live in a Constitutional Republic that uses a some democratic processes.
I do not like the idea of a handful of urban area determining who is POTUS. The electoral college is way to spread the capacity of self-determination.
Majority rule is a horrible concept and has no basis in the founding of our country.
“I do not say that democracy has been more pernicious on the whole, and in the long run, than monarchy or aristocracy. Democracy has never been and never can be so durable as aristocracy or monarchy; but while it lasts, it is more bloody than either. … Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. It is in vain to say that democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious, or less avaricious than aristocracy or monarchy. It is not true, in fact, and nowhere appears in history. Those passions are the same in all men, under all forms of simple government, and when unchecked, produce the same effects of fraud, violence, and cruelty. When clear prospects are opened before vanity, pride, avarice, or ambition, for their easy gratification, it is hard for the most considerate philosophers and the most conscientious moralists to resist the temptation. Individuals have conquered themselves. Nations and large bodies of men, never.”
― John Adams, The Letters of John and Abigail Adams
And you think that a man that was given a $200,000 allowance a year as a child, who almost routinely bankrupts small businesses by not paying or underpaying, that has been involved in fraud, and puts small children in cages is an acceptable alternative to democracy?
Why Trump has no bona-fide legal team.
Jared Beck annihilates Trump’s options as being too little too late.
https://79days.news/watch?id=5fc32a9897895a54678d1e4f
“The mainstream media is the voice of the oligarchs”
He’s still trying to understand what happened to seth rich, and Sean lucas.
The deep state runs this country, and everyone here thinks the the political football game should be taken at. face value.
If We the People kept the federal government to their end of the contract and didn’t allow them to violate the 9th and 10th Amendments it would really matter. The federal government is supposed to have very little power.
The danger of democracy where people keep demanding the government do something for them. Once they get used to it you can’t keep them from doing stuff, good or bad.
The founders recognized, from THOUSANDS of years of history, that pure democracies DON’T WORK. Losers ultimately vote to steal from winners and scumbag politicians pay themselves handsomely for said theft which ultimately ends in authoritarianism ALWAYS. Liberals have had an additional 240 years to recognize this phenomenon and yet can’t or refuse to. But is it any surprise, given their inability to recognize the failures of central planning (socialism, communism, fascism) despite it’s ultimate 100% failure rate? No, no surprise. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Your vote counts equally within your state as designated by your state legislature. Your legislature could just pick electors for president (as Pennsylvania is now considering).
It’s the legislature’s choice (the method of selecting electors) pursuant to our federal constitution. There is no such thing as the “popular vote” in the constitutional selection of our USA president.
Some delude themselves that we live in a democracy. We do not.
C’mon, Kym, the general population does not choose the President and Vice-President of the U.S. The Electoral College does. We are a Democratic Republic not a democracy. We have representatives that cast our votes on most important matters. The Electoral College ensures that the State of Wyoming has a voice equal to the State of California. The Electoral College is one of the most brilliant additions to the Constitution. It ensures the heavily populated states don’t drown out the sparsely populated ones.
A voter in Wyoming does not have 3 1/2 times the power as a voter in California because 1 Electoral vote in Wyoming carries as much weight as an Electoral vote in California.
I hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving and thank you for your service to the community. Whichever way you vote, you are a wonderful human being.
Mike, thank you for the kind words. Of course the general population doesn’t choose the President. The Electoral College does.
What I think is that the Electoral College which is supposed to protect us from demagogues, does not do so. Instead, twice in recent times, it actively took a popularly elected person and gave the presidency to someone else. Both, in my opinion, the worst presidents in recent American history. (George W Bush was a decent human being. Donald Trump isn’t even that.)
A California Elector represents the votes of about 500,000 voters. A Wyoming Elector represents around 150,000 voters. That means that my vote is only a 1/3 as powerful as one cast in Wyoming. How does that make sense?
The Electoral College effectively takes away two thirds of my vote (a rural woman in California) and weighs the vote of a what is most likely a man in Wyoming (Wyoming is slightly more male than female) as more valuable. We are not just rural and urban dichotomies. We are male and female. We are black and white. We are Democrat and Republican. We are rich and poor. We are gun owners and gun fearers. We are pro abortion and anti abortion. We are conservationists and developers. We are diverse. To decide that the only dichotomy we as a country will intervene in is the Rural vs the Urban is very strange.
And remember that the rural small states are protected by the Senate. The House roughly represents the voice of the majority of the people (When not gerrymandered the hell out of by the State senates). The President should directly represent the voice of the people.
They dont. They only have a few electoral votes. Kim, I suggest you read the Constitution several times, carefully. The electoral system was designed to give less populous states an equal share of Senate seats, not presidential or house of representative votes. The electoral votes are based upon house representation. Even with that protection, we are still controlled by metropolitan areas. Thus the election results.
I think you misunderstand. The Electoral College is what I am complaining about. I’m concerned about the Senate but not yet ready to jettison the idea that it might provide balance. But the Electoral College is an unacceptable way for a democracy to operate. The only justification is if it was used to keep someone like Trump, an immoral demagogue that managed to fool so many, out of the Whitehouse. But instead it was used to propel him to the Whitehouse.
Kym,Kym, Kym….
Some States did not want to join the Union until they were offered the electoral college vote because they didn’t like the idea that they would no longer have any say over how they would be able to manage their land because the population of the major cities, and their voting power, would continually overwhelm them. If they were to have their Electoral Vote taken away from them they should at least be offered the choice to leave the Union and run their OWN affairs.
There is also a reason why each state was given only two Senators. That was so each state would receive equal representation as an independent state.
Los Angeles has more say over how Humboldt County grows their cannabis than Kym Kemp has. Do you like that? Or do you think that you should have more power of your opinion on how you should grow it?
As much as I abhor politics over what it has done to ALL of us over who we now choose as friends, and how we should treat them, I still think that I am obligated in trying to understand how and why our nation was formed.
I think the Electoral College Vote is important. Wyoming SHOULD have some small, even if ineffective, say in how they run their land. Just consider yourself lucky that California has the electoral college votes that they do have. We control the nation, even though it is not fair.
I don’t think it was wise to choose to group all of california’s Electoral College votes as one group. What would happen if all of those votes should change to Republican? Would we still want them all grouped together?
Politics is indeed like sausage. There are many ingredients that we certainly wouldn’t like, but altogether it can be delicious.
Ernie, Ernie, Ernie…. All that is a wonderful argument for how the Senate works. We have a very powerful Senate. We don’t need a president that is also elected not on the majority of the votes but on the electors each state is allowed to cast. This disenfranchises residents of populated states.
Yes. Ernie, and Kim forgets there would not have been a United States without this concession. As to California, it’s too big. It should be divided. Alternatively, a provincial system like Canada might be better, all with an equal number of electoral votes. Say nine districts just like the federal courts. Then there would be less centralized and more regional government. I’m tired of rule from the east, and having a ridiculous number of elected representatives each adding his own pork to laws and thereby endlessly adding to debt, increasing taxation and creating inflation.
Kym
We have a very powerful Senate because each State has equal representation in the senate. We have a very powerful House of Representatives because it is elected by popular vote. So… we need a fair way to select our President. I don’t like it anymore than you do when the election doesn’t go the way I want it to.
However…. And this is important! Do you really want the cities telling country folks how to run their Lives. Don’t you want to have unpopulated rural areas already living a tough life having some say on the rules that we have to follow, the taxes we have to pay? I could go on, but as you already probably know, most of us don’t like rules that someone else makes for us.
Ernie, do you really want city folks being told what to do by country folks? Much fewer country folks getting to push their will on the majority?
If so, do you also want to protect male voters by giving them a weighted share of votes compared to women just because you identify with males more than you do females and males are in the minority? How about using the Electoral College to protect Republicans from the growing Democrat majority by giving Republicans a weighted vote against Democrats? What about giving gun owners a weighted vote?
The Electoral College could be weighted to do all of those things… Why not give Republican’s, gun-owning males, more power to change laws (or keep them the same) than those who are Democrats, non-gun-owners and those who are women?
That doesn’t seem very fair to me.
Why then give rural states more power over urban centers? Do you think it is fair that country folk get to tell the Urban folk that they have to follow certain laws simply because they have the majority of the power?
In addition, you make the assumption that a person in Wyoming is going to have the same values as a rural Californian. I don’t think it is true. My Idaho relatives and I don’t talk politics for a reason. I trust each person having one vote to better represent the true needs of all people, than I do weighting votes to give residents of one state over three times the voting strength of residents of another.
Nobody likes folks telling them how to run their lives. But I think we can manage to negotiate with the help of the Bill of Rights a fairer country with one person one vote for president than if we allow some folks more power than others.
If you are right, and I see your point, then they should allow the states that were offered electoral votes to join the union to be able to secede, and all the other rural states to secede and to form their own country. There are 15 rural states and of them 11 are Republican governed. If the United States allowed them to secede they could get rid of all those pesky Republican votes and the could rule the U.S. with impunity. WIN, WIN.
Speaking of which, you win. I have never, ever, heard of anyone changing their opinion about politics or religion. So…
Republica States would die without Federal assistance, so the uh would never secede.
There would be extreme poverty and a large percentage of highly uneducated citizens.
The electoral college was invented to protect rural voters.
Many historians believe that the Electoral College was invented to help slave owning states.
“The Electoral College was not mainly designed to balance big states against small states. It certainly did not have that effect: Eight of the first nine presidential elections were won by candidates who were plantation owners from Virginia, then America’s biggest state. Only three candidates from small states have ever been elected president: Zachary Taylor, Franklin Pierce and Bill Clinton.
As James Madison made clear at the Constitutional Convention in 1787 in Philadelphia, the big political divide in America was not between big and small states; it was between North and South and was all about slavery. So, too, was the Electoral College at the founding, both in its original incarnation in 1787 and in the version later created by the 12th Amendment, which was adopted in 1804.
Behind closed doors at the Constitutional Convention, when the idea of direct presidential election was proposed by the Northerner James Wilson, the Southerner James Madison explained why this was a political nonstarter: Slaves couldn’t vote, so the slaveholding South would basically lose every time in a national direct vote. But if slaves could somehow be counted in an indirect system, maybe at a discount (say, three-fifths), well, that might sell in the South. Thus were planted the early seeds of an Electoral College system.” Professor Akhil Amar at Yale Law School
I think Kym’s argument makes way more sense; one person, one vote. Go ahead and secede, if you want to (but I don’t think you really do!) I hope common sense prevails in the upcoming years. The electoral college is what has allowed this whole shitstorm of trumpism to grow these last few years. Let’s put this ugly chapter behind and move forward.
“Many historians believe that the Electoral College was invented to help slave owning states.”
Do you EVER read anything contrary to your own opinion? Answer-No!
https://lawliberty.org/no-the-electoral-college-was-not-about-slavery/
“Yale’s Akhil Reed Amar, who may be the originator of this peculiar reading of the Constitution, cites one remark on one day by one member of the Constitutional Convention. And that remark comes two months before the final Electoral College is debated and settled upon.”
“It’s a thin reed that gets thinner when you realize that Madison was responding to New Jersey’s William Paterson, who spoke immediately before him and endorsed a system of electors. Paterson, you see, was a dedicated opponent of slavery and surely did not propose such a system in order to uphold the institution he was otherwise working to undermine.”
Sigh, rollin, I said many historians, not all historians. But you imply that respected Yale professor Amar is alone in his assertions. He isn’t. Here’s legal expert Kermit Roosevelt,
The Electoral College came about mostly because the drafters of the Constitution couldn’t come up with anything better. It was settled on late in the process, and it built on structures already approved, notoriously including the Three-Fifths Compromise.
The framers considered having Congress select the president, but they decided that would make the president insufficiently independent. And they considered a popular vote, but they rejected that for three main reasons. First, they thought that individual voters might not be sufficiently well-informed. If you had regional candidates, ordinary voters in one part of the country might not know enough about candidates from other areas.
Second, they wanted to account for slaves. In a popular vote, slaves (who, of course, couldn’t vote) would have no effect on the outcome. With electoral votes allocated based on the number of representatives plus senators, slave states got extra power because they got representatives based on their free population plus three-fifths of their enslaved population. So, it tilted the process in their favor.
Third, and related, with a popular vote states would face pressure to expand their franchise. If, say, Virginia decided to allow women to vote, it would double the number of Virginia votes and give itself a greater voice in the process. Then other states might feel pressure to follow suit to keep up. The framers did not want that incentive to loosen voting restrictions.
“We all know ‘that’s how it works’ but if it were the other way around I wonder what trump voters would have said?”
Most wouldn’t have said shit. They understand why we have an electoral college in the first place, they believe in the constitution; liberals do not!
Bullshit
So Trump voters would be ok if Trump won the popular vote by 3 million but lost the electoral vote, He and his followers would be aok with it?
Right.
Typical Bullshit delusional lies.
Or a very distorted reality.
Yeah, if Trump got 9 million more votes and still lost by the same electoral margin, you all would be fine with it then…
Same kind of batshit crazy reverse logic that seems to make perfect sense to Trumpist nutcases that anybody in their right mind is so sick of hearing.
It’s like hearing Trump calling someone a sleaze.
Or saying he won.
Completely backwards.
Snap out of it.
Trump lost by 6 million votes this time and Trumpers somehow don’t believe he lost. To borrow Rollins line Trumpism is a mental disorder.
So is TDS…
I am surprised you would support a system that gives metropolitan areas more control, given your chosen lifestyle. Just look at how under represented we are here,due to gerrymandering based on population.
“Gerrymandering based on population” is like “cheating by following the rules.” Freedom is slavery, ect…
Still waiting for Crimestopper2’s response … *whistling*
This is emblematic of the delusions held by a significant number of US citizens and frankly, there isn’t anything I know of that can dissuade them from these beliefs.
You can even point out that our Constitution doesn’t allow the Supreme Court to award victory in an election, even if there was evidence of fraud — which there very decidedly isn’t. Not one shred of evidence has been put forward that fraud was committed on any scale large enough to swing even the tight races.
It’s actually kind of sad that folks will hold on to these beliefs despite all the evidence to the contrary. Of course, that’s why we have the current COVID surge — people who won’t listen to medical experts giving their best advice aren’t likely to listen to judges either.
Do you clearly know nothing about the Law appropriate evidence is presented to the appropriate court why do you think the public needs to see evidence before it’s presented appropriately and to the right court?? Blockchain Tech doesn’t work Bitcoin is Fake and Water Marks proving legitimate ballots are not new Tech but a story. The QR code you see on paperwork now is all fake as well!! The businessman who builds multi-million dollar structures that takes years of planning guess he’s been golfing and didn’t see the corruption coming in the short 3 years he’s been, President!! Had a friend go to the voting polls in Belmont California and handed his Ballot, they wouldn’t except it and said he needed to use the computer he asked what about my signature they said it was on file in the system then handed him a card to insert into the computer and it said already voted he said but Sir I didn’t vote the Poll worker said here is says you did, his reply why would I wait in the rain this long if I forgot I turned in the Ballot you refused to accept that was in my hand!!! All we can do is wait and say in the end See What Happened!! Debate On
That would make sense if it were Trump supporters. Most of us know Trump marchers can’t read. My entire neighborhood voted for Biden. And guess what……. HE WON!!!
Voters decide elections, not courts. Been that way for 240 years.
Tell that to Al Gore.
Gore actually won, well he had more votes than Bush.
🕯🌳There’s 300 words in the constitution that tell what well happened and who has the final say. 🖖🖖
Sigh Ants,
SCOTUS won’t declare someone president. What they will do is decide a legal question and a state will then send electors to the college based on that decision.
I’m so glad I still live in The Country where I get to choose which experts I believe.
CS2–Wake up and smell the reality. All your nattering does nothing for your position. No one is listening anymore and has moved on to TODAY. I cant believe people are continuing to beat this ridiculous, absurd, unreal narrative. But, you do you, booboo.
[edit] Wait until Trump leaves office and all the news about what Trump stole from the American taxpayers is made public. Most “Americans” will be chanting, “send him to Prison”. We can only hope!!
Your assertion that each list Trump case is elevated is wrong. That is not how it works. Cases determined be “frivolous lawsuits” or “without merit”, are dismissed and do not elevate, and can not be appealed without new evidence. He has provided none, so over 40 of these cases are dead in the water now.
No voting machines have been seized. Anywhere. And there are zero affadavits asserting fraud. Not one has been presented. This is just another out and out lie you Trumpers have been passing around to soften the blow of the landslide loss you suffered. Show proof of this thats not a right wing youtube video..
What about Michael Flynn??? He is the proof of the four year fraud.
Affidavit by an expert claiming massive fraud In all battleground states:
https://www.scribd.com/document/486105599/Affidavit-of-Dr-Navid-Keshavarz-Nia-Phd#fullscreen&from_embed
He seems to think the fraud was perpetrated on electronic voting machines (without any direct evidence, btw.)
Then WHY OH WHY does the Trump admin keep trying to throw out the MAIL-IN VOTES? Electronic voting machines have fuck-all to do with mail-in ballots.
There are hundreds of sworn affidavits asserting election fraud. Turn your channel from CNN.
Affidavits don’t mean shit without SPECIFIC allagations AND EVIDENCE. That is why all of Trump’s lawsuits have been thrown out.
Because Kaylee MacaNinny holds up a ream of supposed affidavits that haven’t been proven to be true yet?
Jesus, quit watching FOX .
What are these people going to do when they realize they have been tricked and lied to by president trump? Will you turn violent and go on a violent rampage. Will u still be claiming this in 2 years…. wake up, you have been fed a lie by mass media. TRUMP LOST, MOVE ON!
Trump is still POTUS, [edit.] Wait your turn.
Thankfully for only 50 more days.
Woe to the Republic.
“This [Trump’s loss] will be shocking and very hard for a lot of people to accept to understand and digest.”
Work on it.
Man! If trump stops real quick all you trumpmonkeys will have brown noses!
Trump has successfully turned the republican party into a cult and that is worrisome. Dude needs to get out of the way and quit trying to overthrow the American government.
His real worry is that he won’t be president any more and won’t be able to pardon himself. That’s when the FBI will go after him. If he leaves the USA, he better find a country that won’t deport him. Russia? North Korea?
Are you kidding? Putin will watch with amusement, he has no further use for Trumpski.
“May the wings of liberty never lose a feather”…America is gambling on Sleep Joe especially those living in a glass bubble.God Bless America
Possibly the most dangerous thing about a con-man like Trump is that it is so difficult for a person to admit, even to —especially to — himself, that he’s been conned by this faker.
You fail to understand the MAGA movement. The movement transcends Trump. It is a movement of working class conservative people who finally have a voice, many for the first time in their lives. I don’t know or even care if this was Trump’s intention. What I DO know is that a whole lot of good people have woken up and realized that they don’t have to just sit quietly and take it as the left steamrolls over them. Whatever good or bad Trump may be, I thank him wholeheartedly for giving wings to so many people who have felt stuck to the ground for so long.
Thank you Elizabeth.
The left here are like jackals.
They were overjoyed at the prospect of trump dying from covid.
The new German brown shirts.
Like jackals ,only dummer, as evidenced by many of the comments here. Gives little hope for the future of our republic. They act like a lynch mob in a western movie. Hearsay and prejudice is their god.
As if the right wasn’t ready to lynch Hillary. And Obama.
The hypocrisy from the Right is palpable.
I thought Covid was fake?
👍🏽
What the MAGA’S fail to realize is that it’s not the left who are their oppressors; it’s the obscenely wealthy, who trample the underclass with no concern. Trump is one of them. As long as y’all are waking up, keep on waking.
Although I refused to listen to it, I understand that during his premature presidential acceptance speech, Joe Biden called for unity with Trump supporters. I remember four years ago President Trump also called for unity with the Democrat Party. I remember the Congressional members of the Democrat Party responded by boycotting his inauguration. I remember how the Democrat party cheated and used the greatest law enforcement institutions of this country to spy on President Trump’s campaign. I remember how the Democrat Party created a fake Russian dossier to try and impeach President Trump. I remember how the speaker of the house ripped up President Trump’s beautiful State of the Union speech on National TV. I remember how the Democrat Party tried to impeach President Trump over a Ukraine phone call. Democrats accused President Trump of pay to play. Come to find out it was really Joe Biden and his son Hunter. I remember how the Democrat Party blamed President Trump over a pandemic that he had nothing to do with. I remember how the Democrat Party actually encouraged rioting and looting of my great United States of America. I remember how the Democrat Party used the media to spread lie after lie about President Trump 24/7. I remember how the Democratic Party stole the election from President Trump. This Trump supporter remembers and will NOT be unifying with the hypocritical Democrat Party any time soon. This conservative will be giving the Biden Administration and democrats the same respect they gave President Trump.
Even assuming that your statements are completely accurate, is Biden or even any close members of his team responsible for those actions? If not, then blaming them for the actions of other Democrats is like me blaming Mitt Romney for President Trump’s actions.
The first efforts to undermine the Trump administration were carried out by the Obama administration. I’m old enough to remember that Biden was the vice president at the time.
Can you give me some examples?
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/509002-more-willful-blindness-by-the-media-on-spying-by-obama-administration
“Documents show Comey briefed President Obama and Vice President Joe Biden on the investigation shortly before the inauguration of Trump. When Comey admitted the communications between Flynn and Russian officials appeared legitimate, Biden reportedly suggested using the Logan Act, a law widely seen as unconstitutional and never been used to successfully convict a single person, as an alternative charge against Flynn. The memo contradicts eventual claims by Biden that he did not know about the Flynn investigation.”
And efforts to undermine Obama’s birthplace and legitimacy were carried out by Birther in Charge Trump.
Where are those lawyers Ullr? Still in Hawaii? Maybe he’s holding that and Hunters child porn together? With the evidence of vote fraud too, perhaps.
Also, did you ever get answers to your Seth Rich malarkey?
“Nuetral”😂😂😂
Wah 😩
Ohh, you mean the sore losers parade? 🤢
Here’s one benefit.
We can now put the last nail in the coffin of stereotyping gays, assuming they are all lefty Democrats. Thanks Tyler. I disagree with you but respect you standing up for your point of view (even if it does sell your trans community allies short. Oppps. I said it. Lol).
I can’t keep up, are we doing election fraud or covid? Because I thought we were all going to die because of thanksgiving, I’m just confused at this point.
I think everyone should go bowling
I tried before we hit purple, but e&o was already closed. 😢
It’s the fraudulent covid election, get it straight
http://recallgavin2020.com/
Excellent. They say the bulk of the middle class has and are leaving Ca. That means only the rich oligarcs and the poor will be left. Said, no conservative could ever win an election again, except maybe from immigrants of people wanting a better life for their families.
What a bunch of idiots.
If you’re ever wondering how sixty million Germans ended up following Adolph Hitler to their ultimate destruction; simply read the comments above.
Propaganda works and cognitive dissonance is real.
For four years the ugly underbelly of American society has been on full display. It’s time to roll that dog over and give it a bath.
Amen to that.
If you read history it can be said that the press was silenced to support Hitler. If anything press has hammered on and on about how bad everything the republicans did for the last four years – very little if nothing positive about Trump only negatives and suppression of speech if not in accordance with democratic/liberal view. However only glowing endorsements of everything democrats did or have done.
Most of the democrats including Pelosi, Biden, and Feinstein are career politicians so if they’ve been there well over 100 years between them how come we still have all these unresolved problems?
As for all these “free” promised programs who do you think will pay for them – don’t whine when you’re taxes skyrocket you voted for that like the healthcare bill – to quote Pelosi “ you have to vote it in to see what’s in it” – do you sign blank check if so I’ll give you my name you can send me one and I’ll fill in the amount and you can figure it out later.
ataloss,
Clearly you’ve been choosing the “news” sources that best support your petty prejudices. Your take on the economy is emblematic of your poor connection to reality. You’re ranting about healthcare blaming people like Biden and Pelosi for Obamacare.
Funny thing, I blame those same people for the lack of universal healthcare and a plethora of other ills. But unlike those who sit drooling over Toni Lauren’s t*ts, I know who owns a substantial portion of Humana, Blue Cross and Merrik. Funny thing, he also owns Fox News.
How does it feel you’ve been suckered into voting for your own eventual bankruptcy from medical bills? Of course you could stand up and demand a few billionaires pay their taxes so the rest of us can go to the doctor, but someone might call you a socialist.
BTW, Jesus gave away healthcare. Yup. Lazarus didn’t have a co-pay and the lepers didn’t have to pony up a deductible. He also fed the hungry without question, tirelessly advocated for the poor and disenfranchised and he even brought a buzz to the party. A regular hippie by all accounts. Then he f**ked with the bankers and a week later he was tacked to a tree.
I studied European history and have lived in several countries some of them very close to socialist rulers. Furthermore not to burst your bubble but I don’t vote because of the laws in this country. I respect the laws that exist including immigrating according to rules. You know the place across the pond that doesn’t tear down/ burn down thing because they represent bad things from the past. The things are meant to teach us not to repeat mistakes.
I as an immigrant pay more taxes in this country and currently work on the COVID-19 frontlines.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Yeah, but you’re a legal immigrant with the wrong opinions so you don’t count.
You probably pay more taxes than Trump. Put that in your pipe and smoke it…
I’d rather some OG, but whatever floats your boat.
The “underbelly” exposed was the authoritarian power brokers who tried to overturn the election for over three years.
What do you call the gerrymandering and voter suppression routinely exercised by the Republicans?
It wasn’t republicans that gerrymandered me into Huffman’s extremely wealthy Marin Counties district.
Well it’s been said, you can’t fix stupid and I see what they were talking about.
How did a candidate who could hardly draw a dozen people to his rallies manage to draw more voters than any candidate in US history? More than Hillary (that makes sense) and more than Obama… really?
It’s not hard to understand, look who he was running against. I’d be willing to bet a third of Biden voters were simply anti-Trump votes.
And with COVID, Biden wasn’t trying to pull people into rallies — most were smarter than to gather into big crowds with a virus floating around.
Maybe, I know that’s an easy rationale, but he drew more support than Obama? That doesn’t make sense… even with the anti-Trump sentiment.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_incredulity#:~:text=Argument%20from%20incredulity%2C%20also%20known,or%20is%20difficult%20to%20imagine.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens%27s_razor
To be honest, I’m having a hard time believing there were 74 million people who would vote FOR Trump. The man has put on such a spectacular display of narcissism, ignorance, hyperbole and lies over the last 4 years that is just baffles me that anyone would vote for him a second time, much less that many people.
So I can appreciate your incredulity about the outcome. But the total number of votes is still only around 67% of registered voters — a near record percentage but still kind of pathetic.
It’s tough being stuck in the middle where you dislike both options.
Ullr, ain’t that the truth
Biden voters were much more conscious of Covid which I know is hard for you to understand but it’s something many people take seriously. Also, for me I’m happy with a pres who isn’t a cult of personality, just a politician who gets things done. I liked Hillary also, for the same reason. Not her personality, but she knew how to be a politician (dirty word)
“Biden voters were much more conscious of Covid which I know is hard for you to understand”
Yes I’m sure the rioting BLM Antifa scum were mostly Trump supporters……and mostly peaceful.
It’s simple. Don’t over think it Ullr.
The vast majority of people voted AGAINST TRUMP, not ‘for’ Biden. The hate for Trump drew out millions who don’t usually vote. Trump, seen as the ‘change’, anti-establishment candidate brought out a huge group of voters too.
Even though Dems will have the White House (and barely Congress) for a while, the problem for the Democrats is that they think they can pull off the Obama trick again with Kamala; thinking that her race and gender will be enough ‘change’ to court voters again in 2024. But people are wiser than that. Trumps success have shown that.
Too bad. They could have had both if Bernie had won. But noooooooooo! He would not support their militarist – corporate loyalties. Sadly, 2024 is looking good for Republicans.
Total presidential votes cast in:
2004 121 million
2008 129.5 million
2012 126 million
2016 129 million
2020 154 million
US population:
292.8 million (2004)
304.1 million (2008)
313.9 million (2012)
323.1 million (2016)
331 million + (2020)
Yup. It doesn’t follow. A 2.5% increase in population between the last 2 elections and a 12% increase in vote totals.
Because people got off their asses to vote like their lives depended on it this time?
On both sides. Trump is braying about his 74 million, but somehow Biden’s 80 million is “suspect”?
Trump got more than 11 million more than last time. Why aren’t people going “Hmmmm” about that one? I’m not. Like I said, people of all persuasions voted, often in spite of efforts to disenfranchise many of them.
You should be glad that so many Americans voted. It hasn’t been this high since 1900. This is a good thing.
I hope that’s the case.
Dude, please leave us joeBeNoddin delusionista alone, Its going to be hard when Trump wins officially in 3 weeks, just before Christmas…
1 for 40 in court so far. Keep dreaming Trumper.
they are called Generation Z. Almost all of them couldn’t vote in 2016. there are 93 million of them and most could have voted in 2020. it will literally be the end of the GOP when they fully vote. like i have said several times before, it is simple math. there are 170 million when you add up the voters below the age of 34. they will change everything.
Yes it does. You vastly underestimate that anti-Trump sentiment.
Vastly.
( Means Bigly)
C’mon, Ullr, that’s easy. I voted Biden and I wouldn’t go to a crowded campaign rally if you paid me. Which people are more likely to vote for Biden–those who are following COVID protocols or those who aren’t? Which are likely to attend a rally sans masks and unworried about social distancing? I’d guess Trump supporters. So…why are Trump rally’s relatively bigger than Biden’s…?
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-crowd-biden-trump-support/fact-check-crowd-size-at-trump-and-biden-events-reflect-campaign-strategy-not-support-idUSKBN27F27Y
Look at the vote totals. Biden versus Obama.
Who was excited about Biden? Nobody. They may have been excited to get Trump out, but nobody was excited to get Biden in.
Biden 80,117,578 votes
Obama (2008) 69,498,516
Obama (2012) 65,915,795
I wasn’t excited about Biden. I don’t want another Corporate Democrat. But better that than the lying embarrassing authoritarian in office. I was willing to donate to Biden to end the evil that separates children from their parents, to see the Paris Accord back on the table, to see science followed instead of whim. There are millions like me, Ullr. Trump revolted us to the depth of our souls.
You do know that Obama built those cages, right?
“There are millions like me”… ok, why didn’t the asses dominate the House elections? Why didn’t they take the Senate?
That should tell you something, then. Enough people were sick to death of Trump, that even thought they voted GOP elsewhere, the pulled the lever for Biden. Trump should take that personally (based on his behavior, he certainly is). Because it was a referendum on him.
One thing this election should teach all sides is that voting makes a difference. Both sides turned out more then ever before. I hope the millions that still sat it out start voting, too.
But they didn’t. A lot more people voted in the presidential election than voted down ballot.
Honest question :
Do you prefer election fraud and a Biden/Harris win or election integrity and a Trunp/Pence win?
I prefer what actually happened. Biden/Harris won the election with integrity.
Your question reminds me of “When did you stop beating your wife”.
Considering I don’t like either option I am as neutral as you’ll find.
The numbers are suspect.
Not to election officials and judges…Ullr, over and over–I think it is 39 times out of 40 (and that was just a minor ruling) but I can’t quickly find a citation—Trump’s team has failed to get judges to believe them. Judges that are Republican. Judges that were appointed by Trump. They all say there is no evidence. Why? Because there isn’t any.
I am totally neutral, but I also believe in massive voter fraud with zero evidence to back it up. Sure buddy.
Also note that in each state that Biden won where there was a senate race, the Democrats won. In each state that Trump won where there was a senate race, the Republicans won. In Georgia where Biden was ahead only 14,000 votes. The Senate races are going to a runoff. The down ballot votes are roughly mirroring the Presidential votes.
Here’s a good article on this: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/11/23/hold-your-fire-dueling-democrats/
And the House votes?
I am as neutral as you’ll find.
😂😂😂😂
Well, if you’re buying that, it makes one person.
Yeezus Ullr, read your coments much?
Trump’s numbers are suspect.
Biden got 80 million votes.
Trump could have only gotten about 50million, all that remained.
The question you should be asking yourself is,”How did Trump pull 25 million votes out of thin air?”.
He cheated like never before and still lost.
Putin padded his shit by 25 million and it still wasn’t enough.
The moral of the story is:
” Never rub Cheetle on your face”.
More likely, Trump cheated but lost anyway.
Cheetos never prosper.
No, they did not. I think you should listen to the hearings in Michigan, Arizona, and Pennsylvania, from people who are actually on site. They saw the fraud happen. President Trump campaigned every day in the last couple of months, one time visiting four states in a single day. Whereas, Mr. Biden did not campaign for the last two weeks before the election, probably because he was confident that it was rigged.
Also, did you know that almost all of Mr. Biden’s policies are technically unconstitutional? Immigration within states, green energy, and medical care are all STATE issues, not issues that the President is given authority over. President Trump has given a lot of authority on matters to the individual states, as he should, while Biden is trying to create a completely centralized government, which is unconstitutional and goes against the American Dream. Also, did you think of the taxing that it will take to put all of his illegal government programs into action? We are struggling enough economically as it is, without him putting us into even more debt. As one of our former Presidents, Calvin Coolidge, quoted, “We cannot improve the condition of the people or reform human nature by intruding the nation into the affairs of the states or despoiling the people of their business.” But that is exactly what Mr. Biden is trying to do to this country. Bottom line, President Trump is trying to actually preserve state’s rights to decide on things for themselves, such as lockdowns. Mr. Biden does not even know he is running for President, and we all know he won’t be running the country. The Democrat Party will.
And here is an article about the massive fraud that happened: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/whistleblowers-post-office-labeled-trump-mail-undeliverable-388-000-ballots-backdated-disappear.
My edit button isn’t showing up, but here’s a reminder of Trump’s M.O. Everyone is always cheating, all the time, according to him. Even fellow Republicans. But only when Trump loses, of course.
A quote from Trump (it was a tweet) regarding his loss to Ted Cruz in Iowa in 2016:
“Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa Caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified,”
Another one from then:
“Ted Cruz didn’t win Iowa, he stole it. That is why all of the polls were so wrong and why he got far more votes than anticipated. Bad!”
Sound familiar?
https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-tweet-about-ted-cruz-committing-fraud-during-2016-iowa-caucuses-resurfaces-senator-backs-1546129
Good one Angela. Nail on the head.
Isn’t it sad that these two were what each party thought was the best representation for them?
When are we going to have candidates that are put on the ballot that’ll actually try to do what’s good for the people instead of trying to stick with their party and have a hidden agenda?
I’m not delighted with Biden. But these are promises he will almost surely follow that I expect to be delighted with:
Rejoin the Paris Climate Accord
Stop the separation of children from parents at the border.
Repair relations with our Allies
Invest $300 Million in community policing programs
Raise the minimum wage to $15 per hour
Do a national COVID testing and trace program with free testing and hire 100,000 contact tracers
Rejoin the World Health Organization
Work towards more health coverage.
Invest in green technologies and create green jobs
Protect the Dreamers
No new taxes.
You can pay for those who lost their job during this shutdown, if you feel like paying more taxes.
Explain to the readers Kim why these children should be with their Parents you break the Law in America you’re separated from your children why should Illegals get special treatment over Americans!! PC 273(a) Child Endangerment
https://kymkemp.com/2020/11/18/five-children-under-four-years-old-found-in-house-receiving-shipments-of-mdma-from-the-netherlands-says-hcdtf/
Many of those who were separated from their children were applying for asylum which is legal–it is not a criminal action. Others were separated for minor infractions that would usually not result in incarceration. (It is only a misdemeanor to cross the border illegally.) Moreover, there were no trials just a presumption of guilt.
In addition, when children are separated from their American parents for criminal reasons, we don’t take them and lose track of where they are. We keep track of them. We don’t kidnap them and redistribute them around the country and lose records of where they are. When parents complete their sentences, they can be reunited with their children.
AND, we don’t hold American citizen children of criminals in cages with foil blankets and feed them badly. Some of the children in these border cages were sick> https://apnews.com/article/a074f375e643408cb9b8d1a5fc5acf6a At least five died.
The asylum claims are bogus. Central Americans do not need to cross the US border to plead for asylum. They are economic migrants.
I would disagree with you. But let’s just say there’s a good chance you are right.
1) There’s a process. Someone needs to be convicted of a crime before being ripped from their children.
2) Crossing the border illegally the first time is a misdemeanor not a felony. It’s roughly comparable to jaywalking. We do not take children from their parents when they jaywalk and we especially don’t do so and lose them in the system so they can’t be reunited with their parents. And we don’t hold the children in prison. And we don’t keep them in unhealthy conditions.
Or…actually we do keep children in cages…but it is absolutely morally wrong.
Open Borders and free 747 tickets from Asia. Yeah America!
That’s not happening and you know it but hey, that dog whistle is still knocking making the rounds.
Actually jaywalking is an infraction, like speeding. Misdemeanors are a more serious crime and are jailable.
Calling an illegal border crossing equivalent to jaywalking because they are both misdemeanors is equivalent to calling simple assault, theft, driving while suspended, or DWI equivalent to jaywalking. Jaywalking is an impulsive act that mainly endangers the perp. Illegal migration is premeditated and sustained effort in furtherance of a crime.
For the first improper entry offense, the person can be fined (as a criminal penalty) amounts ranging from at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325
Jaywalking isn’t an exact comparison. But the penalties as posted in the US law cited above don’t reach the height of littering fines for example. (Note that imprisonment is an option that was rarely used.)
Or some were brought here by coyotes and just left the children after getting into the country since they were not needed anymore.
Or what if parents won’t claim their children because they think the children are better off here, even without them.
Seems traffickers are dismissed like they don’t exist.
I would like to see the numbers on foster children that can’t be accounted for.
It’s an appalling scandal but unlike the migrant children, this was not done intentionally. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/06/18/the-other-missing-children-scandal-thousands-of-lost-american-foster-kids/
If we were as interested in the foster children as were are the immigrant children we would find them and ask them if it was intentional, wouldn’t we? I think many are POC.
Yet I don’t see the same kind of interest or outrage.
Jesus, HC, I can only write about so much and to the best of my knowledge I’ve never covered either on my website’s articles. I’m local coverage not national. That doesn’t mean when we are discussing in the comment section why I think Trump is a terrible president that I can’t blame him for what he is clearly responsible for. And to the best of my knowledge he is not particularly responsible for the Foster care mess. So I don’t blame him for that. However, should you like to provide me the evidence that he is guilty, I promise you I’ll be sure to bring it up.
As to outrage, I’m outraged by a lot of things I’ve never mentioned to you. I just stick to the subject at hand.
Thanks, Kim a lot of people don’t understand this aspect, glad you can educate them! Now you have Passed this test all send you a personal email!
Why do you think trump is authoritarian?
Trump, as do dictators everywhere, insists people take his “facts” as true even over the evidence of their own eyes. Day 1–crowd at the inauguration size–although by any objective standard it wasn’t as large as Obama’s, he insisted it was and insisted that his minions promote his “alternative facts.” He insists on undercutting experts, the media, and anyone who disagrees with him. He sets himself up as almost the sole authority on subjects.
He uses fear of the other (Remember the “invasion” caravan that wasn’t?) He keeps slapping socialism labels on corporate Democrats.
It’s incredibly ridiculous but a large part of his voters appear to fall for his tactics.
He insists on absolute loyalty. And seems to get it frequently. Remember his boast that he “could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody” and not lose any support.
There is a love of authoritarianism in America (probably elsewhere also) but I see it here because I live here. Heck, I have a streak of it myself. America loves its strong father figures–John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, Ronald Reagan etc. Donald Trump tries to emulate that image and many buy into it.
So his rhetoric is authoritarian. Gotcha. That’s understandable. But, usually when you refer to a politician as authoritarian you are referring to his policy. I see no authoritarian policy in his presidency. Unless you do?
Rhetoric is the way movements are carried forward.
Authoritarianism is not a set polital type. There are communist authoritarians and capitalist ones.
I’ll do my best to quickly give you some examples.
In general, authoritarians try to consolidate power (key posts given to family members), to control media (arbitrarily excluding reporters Trump doesn’t like from briefings), to try to stomp out fair elections (See November 2020 election…), to hold on to power for years (Trump tweeted, “…after America has been made GREAT again and I leave the beautiful White House (do you think the people would demand that I stay longer?”, Trump’s retweet of Jerry Falwell tweet, ” I now support reparations-Trump should have 2 yrs added to his 1st term as pay back for time stolen by this corrupt failed coup”, etc.),
Also using “enemy of the people” against any news organization that didn’t print glowing praise of him.
It got so bad that even the US Senate, a couple of years ago, by unanimous consent, passed a resolution that the press was NOT an enemy of the people and that the free press was indispensable.
“Enemy of the people” was a favorite phrase of Stalin. It was so loaded that afterwards, even the Soviet leaders would not use it.
And just very recently Trump called the Georgia Secretary of State, a Republican, who lawfully did his duty…an “enemy of the people”.
And his use of the “fake media” harkens right back to Nazi Germany and Hitler’s “lying press”…
I’m sorry, but I have to agree with him on the “fake news” issues.
Every single one time the media makes a claim, I watch the whole conversation in which their quoting him. Every single time they have made sound bites that are out of context and used to smear his image. That is a fact. They are purposefully misleading the public. To what end, I have no idea.
I don’t know if I’d refer to them as “The enemy of the people,” but his claims of media bias in reporting about him are completely true.
…excepting the most prominant MSM news networks, Fox News and ClearChannel, which never miss a chance to irrationally sing his praises. Fox outcompetes its nearest rival in viewership by almost double. You have the victimhood complex that defines Trump support.
Wow geist, two posts about victimhood in one thread? Seems like you’re projecting a little buddy. Can you offer substance, or is this just name calling? I’m a little out of practice. The playground was a long time ago.
Pretending the national media landscape in uniformly liberal is delusional, dude.
Words are not actions.
Nepotism is a problem everywhere, not just in politics. Trump isn’t stamping out free elections, he’s challenging the validity of the current one. I for one am interested if his claims have merit. There’s obviously a considerable amount of our fellow Americans who do too. Let’s let the courts decide and make their recommendations to the electoral college.
The rest off your comments are speculation. If that’s what you believe, that’s fine; but it doesn’t make it true.
Its not speculatiom that Trump’s lawsuits have ALL been thrown out due to lack of evidence.
Goalposts moved. I see how you debate.
Also, a reminder that Bernie Sanders had large rallies and he didn’t win in 2016 and 2020.
I have no desire to go to a rally. I didn’t before Covid and certainly not afterwards. I decide who I vote for based on their platforms and the like and what I know of them over the years. Rallies are like rock concerts. The fans show up. Others prefer to just listen to the music at home, without the crowd. If for no other reason than the parking sucks! 🙂
With Biden, though, aside from being responsible about Covid, I think a lot of people would have crawled over broken glass to vote against Trump. I know I would have, except I live in Oregon where I can mail it in. Is Biden “exciting”? No. And I like that. I’ve had enough “excitement” these past 4 years.
No kidding. I want to wake up and not rush to the news worrying what civil right, what science, what environmental situation is in danger today?
AMEN to that, Kym.
“Also, a reminder that Bernie Sanders had large rallies and he didn’t win in 2016 and 2020.”
And why was it that Bernie didn’t win? Hillary and the DNC didn’t want him to win perhaps.
Where is that laptop Debbie Wasserman Schultz didn’t want anyone to see? What went on with the Anwan Bros? Why did they have access to all the congress critters accounts and then flee to Pakistan?
Crickets!
Which people are more likely to vote for Biden–those who are following COVID protocols or those who aren’t? Which are likely to attend a rally sans masks and unworried about social distancing? I’d guess Trump supporters.
I disagree and this is why, I do follow Covid protocol and I also voted for Trump. I don’t attend any rally but if you remember back in the local news cycle that there are plenty that did, en mass. I have not seen any report that this group spray painted anything, blocked the street or tried to stop traffic. No window was broken and there was sensible conversation. I don’t think those people back then were exactly Trump supporters. I’d guess that your guess is wrong, although I respect your ability to do so.
“Which people are more likely to vote for Biden–those who are following COVID protocols or those who aren’t?”
Nice try but that bird don’t fly. Which people are more likely to be peacefully protesting in the streets disrupting innocent diners, starting fires, looting and beating people up for having the wrong opinion?
You won’t admit Biden rallies were small by design to limit covid exposure, not like Trump superspreader rallies that made tens of thousands sick with the virus..if Rush or Shapiro or Levine doesnt say it you just won’t believe it, huh? How do you explain the win by over 70 electoral votes? When Trump lost the popular vote last election but won the electoral vote with 306 votes he called it a “huge landslide”..now Biden won by over 5 million popular votes AND got 306 electoral votes…so by Trumps own standards it’s a Huge landslide…
Who decides the election?
Not so sure if you understood the process, so here’s a link.
https://www.loc.gov/wiseguide/oct08/election.html
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Me:🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Omg Ullr.
The anti-masker wonders why the big rally covid denying candidate in a pandemic didn’t win over small rally covid sensitive candidate…. in a pandemic…
Holy shit.
Exactly…..
I’m so glad turmup will be off of my TV and hope completely out of the news He’s the most abrasive ass on TV. Now he’s a washed up big time wrestler /politician. Haha hehes a looser
John Prine- Spanish Pipedream
https://m.youtube.com/watch?index=26&list=PLhrjLxfhlrq0Yvo4L5RShFHB_I2lSbJas&v=OLSGLOLsuTo
As long as Trump draws viewers, be they followers or gawkers, he will be on TV. And if you don’t like what’s on the TV you can always turn it off.
Keep on losing bigly in court. Your team is now 1-39 in losses.
Wait Trumpers don’t believe in facts. If their exulted one says there was massive fraud it must be true. Damn the courts. How could Trump lose he had all those huge rallies, Biden didn’t. It must have been cheating.
Spreader
/spred-er/
noun
a device used for spreading or scattering … over a wide area
– a person who spreads or disseminates
– a bar with a detachable cuff which you can fasten onto wrists, ankles, knees …
– a machine used to distribute manure
– a small dull knife
– a certain soon-to-be ex-President
Kym? He lost… A whopping 40 people showed up to support him. Can the rest of us now ignore him like we do the rest of the losers?
To all trump supporters, how much did Mexico pay for the wall ? Dump the chump trump 2020..
weel see if Biden can pull it off in 2024. I have a feeling Mail in voting which is ripe for fraud gave Biden the advantage he needed. i dont think he will have such luck agains Trump 2024.
Nah, it isn’t. Oregon and other states that soon followed have been doing mail-in ballots for decades now without any problems. Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Utah, and Washington. States that are new to it this year will get even better by 2024.
But didn’t you hear? It’s the Dominion voting machines that are also “suspect”. Or people who stand in line to vote illegally or whatever they can pull out of their rears. I hear that Hugo Chavez stole the election from the grave. Pretty neat trick, seeing as he’s been dead for nearly 8 years. Oh, and Brian Kemp of Georgia is in on it, too! Doesn’t matter that he’s a GOP Trump backing Governor.
Ask yourself why Trump isn’t complaining about the mail-in voting in Utah? Go on, guess.
You don’t think critically.
Focus on the due process of election integrity.
Focus on the chain of command.
Focus on the idea that a private hardware/ software company was responsible for counting the vote.
Focus less on anti Trump, and more on why the Constitution has provisions to provide remedy when the balance of power is used to subvert the will of a trusting public.
That trust has been broken.
The media is not doing anything for the truth, and it shows in the small minded perspective of an emotional, irresponsible, lack of transparency In our election process.
The Constitution provides very important checks and balances.
We would be better served if we understood the historical need to keep the Constitution from being crucified at the expense of our children’s future.
A lot of words, but no clear citation from the actual Constitution.
I am reminded of the Onion headline:
“Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be”
Hold onto 2024 Magats
Biden is hands down the best President America has ever seen!
Thank you voters for inviting this brilliant future!!
Trump is out, Biden is in, and thank God!
With a comely gentleman like Biden, there’s no telling what resilient new global trade agreements He might Manifest as Destiny!!
We need to win the hearts and minds of all the worlds people!
Spread American Democracy to all continents of the globe!
Yes we can!
I just read all the above comments and the interesting thing is with all the political talk not one single comment said one positive thing about why Biden would be a good POTUS.
Joe has signed on with Bernie, AOC and squad, Brennan, University teachers and more are admitted socialists.
Socialism has been tried and lead to death and misery ask Spain, Italy, Venezuela
Cuba, Hong Kong, how many examples do you need?
Businesses that are trying to survive covid- closings are being burned to the ground by terrorists and the left yawns.
Murders in Dem controlled cities has sky rocketed and the dems yawn.
Left politicians mandate rules they don’t follow, the Repubs just tell you outright they won’t comply with mandates.
As the POC used to say where I grew up ” get Real”
So you see, you don’t have to love Trump or be in “his ” cult to not like the left agenda at all.
Where’s Hunter?
You forgot USSR. Stalin was great example of communism be step along the socialism curve. Having some work while others linger and complain to collect monies from e we irking people through taxes – does not and will not work proven time and time again.
Those at top of “food chain” never feel the pain of the common folk. I.e that’s why Pelosi can go to hair salon without restrictions while the rest of us look like a baboons ass and her nephew Gavin can go to dinner with fifty of his closest friends without covid precautions while the rest of us look in in our imposed restrictions.
You seem to have forgotten the huge tax break given to the rich by Trump and his corporate purchased Repub buddies. I guess they weren’t thinking of the “common folk” at all.
You can spout the Communism/ Socialism dog whistles all you like, it doesn’t make them true
The Republicans are closer to a Dictatorship that the Democrats are, hands down. Republican run states are some of the poorest states and suck off of richer Democratic states like California.
With one of his pole dancing girls in DC. Not the one whose baby daddy he is some new one – or maybe he’s lining up interns to interview ala Bill Clinton…( the one who destroyed one young woman’s future)
Just to be clear, the people who “destroyed” a young woman’s future were people like Linda Tripp who betrayed her friendship for political gain.
And people like Kenneth Starr. Who repeatedly threatened her with a 27 year prison sentence if she didn’t cooperate with the Starr investigation. The investigation into a failed land deal that went on for over four years.
C’mon, Angela. Bill Clinton is no angel. He bears a share of what happened to Monica.
Thank you for your honesty.
I was trying to add that, but for some reason when I refresh, my edit function doesn’t show up.
He was/is a cad of the first water. But what happened to Monica Lewinsky was pure politics. She didn’t want her personal life broadcast to the entire world. Kenneth Starr insisted to the point like I said, of threatening her (and her mother, too) with a hefty prison sentence if she didn’t cooperate.
It was so ugly it drove my mother out of the Republican party and she didn’t even like the Clintons.
Kenneth Starr later lost his job as President of Baylor University for covering up the sex scandal involving the Baylor football team. A scandal that involved rape and assault. It would be funny if it wasn’t such rank hypocrisy and so awful.
And being part of the defense for Jeffrey Epstein.
It was ugly. It was hard to stomach but Clinton didn’t impress me either…
Oh no doubt. But he didn’t “destroy” her future. That was the people like Starr and Tripp, who used her to get Clinton on something, anything. When Starr couldn’t dig up any other “dirt” on Clinton, as was his original remit, regarding Whitewater…it took years to find something, anything to go after him with. The country really hasn’t recovered in some ways from that.
What they found, at last, was a tawdry private matter…which in retrospect is moot with the serial reprobate soon to be out of office.
But I hope Hillary kicked his ass. And I wish Monica Lewinsky the best. I always have. I felt terrible for her 20 years ago.
Playing games with witnesses to find something, anything, to go after the President with… sounds a lot like Russiagate. Equally despicable.
I already linked a list of Mueller investigation charges and convictions. “Russiagate” was a witch hunt that caught and convicted dozens of Trumps witches. You are clearly not making arguments in good faith.
So the Starr investigation had merit because Clinton was caught in perjury?
Dozens of Trump “witches” convicted? Dream on.
34 convictions, including legit Russian spies. I’d say that was in the public interest.
That’s what she said…
Why not judge a politician on their politics and not their social life? It’s just a job. They don’t need to be superheroes or anything more than normal flawed humans who do their job like anyone else.
Oval office blow jobs are low on my list of concerns. Maybe Hitler wouldn’t have been so nasty if he got more blow jobs.
Jeffrey Epstein was a friend of the Clintons. Let’s just say he was well connected politically and if he went down so would a lot of other people.
“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” – Donald Trump, 2002
Funny how y’all forget Monica bragged to her friends BEFORE going to DC that she was off to get her “presidential kneepads”
Kindda like Kamala and Willie.
This thread wouldn’t be complete without your obsession with Kamala’s past sex [Edit: lives] but somehow Trump wanting to have sex with his daughter and being a documented sexual predator is always overlooked by you.
I get it , it bugs the sh*t out of you when I point out the truth.
So you find it extraordinary that Kamala had sex with someone ? Someone that she knew? Just trying to understand why Kamala’s former sex life stands out to you but Trumps doesn’t.
Let’s add Edwards from North Carolina to those who called Trump crass and many other sexist names the Democrats have their share of cads that misbehaved while in office. Including the iconic Kennedy’s America’s royalty of sorts – Democrats
And who said anything good about Trump, other than a blanket statement how he is the best President ever?
I bet Joe will get us beck into the foreign wars like Bush / Obama. He’s Part of that same “inside the beltway military industrial complex” ilk.
Glen Greenwald is at least an honest progressive and said that nothing Trump did in 4 years compares to the moral evil of Obama and his wars.
https://reason.com/video/2020/11/25/glenn-greenwald-nothing-trump-did-compares-to-the-moral-evil-of-bushs-and-obamas-wars/
We definately didn’t stop bombing people under Trump.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/28/us-afghanistan-war-bombs-2019
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/trump-have-bombed-yemen-more-than-bush-and-obama-combined-2020-10%3famp
https://www.2lt.com.au/trump-who-vowed-to-end-wars-has-dropped-more-bombs-than-bush-or-obama/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5879354/civilian-deaths-airstrikes-somalia/%3famp=true
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/22/obama-drones-trump-killings-count/
America is Chinas puppet. And now it finally shows ….
What they can’t buy or blackmail, they use fear and force such as Hong Kong.
Republicans did well down ballot and lost the presidency, probably because people in Trump’s own party didn’t vote for him. There is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud and Trump’s lawsuits are all failing because his legal team is presenting zero evidence to back them up, in fact when it comes to court his lawyers aren’t even alleging fraud because bringing frivolous lawsuits can lead to disbarment.
I genuinely don’t understand how so many people can continue to support the blatant lies and trashing our democracy (or republic if you prefer) just so he can continue to fleece his followers for contributions to his legal fund, the majority of which is going to repay his campaign debts.
I would hope that at some point he would put the well being of this country over his own fragile ego and concede, but I am certainly not holding my breath. At what point will his followers come to terms with reality?
Many of you have been misguided and deceived, by our dishonest media, to even consider all Trump supporters as racist and/or supporters of police brutality. It’s completely inaccurate, dishonest and unfair.
Our biased and corrupt media has degraded into nothing more than the propaganda arm, of the Democrat Party. 92% of what’s printed is negative news and outright lies about President Trump vs only 8% positive. They continue to pound Donald Trump and his team, with the most hostile coverage of a president, in TV news history. You are simply not permitted to tell the truth, in the United States. To tell the truth in the American media is a capital offense and may earn you a midnight visit, from the Clinton Cabal…
Here’s an article you may not have seen… October 15, 2020. 4. President Trump was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for a fourth time, for his “endeavors to end the era of endless wars, construct peace … as well as underpin internal cohesion and stability of his country.”. Laura Huhtasaari, a Finnish Parliament member, hailed Trump’s efforts to ‘build peace in the world’ and called for him to receive the honor.
Truth and Honor
You mean that Trump nominated himself for the Nobel Peace Prize for the fourth time. I suspect the Nobel Prize committee get a good laugh out of it each time.
If Obama can keep his after sowing war and misery in Libya and Syria, maybe Trump deserves one more.
Trump definately didn’t stop bombing anyone.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/trump-have-bombed-yemen-more-than-bush-and-obama-combined-2020-10%3famp
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/28/us-afghanistan-war-bombs-2019
https://www.2lt.com.au/trump-who-vowed-to-end-wars-has-dropped-more-bombs-than-bush-or-obama/
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/22/obama-drones-trump-killings-count/
Don’t forget, he never forgets to tell his followers that he won Michigan’s Man of the Year award, when no such award exists.
That Trumpers find this man credible and not just a lying sack of shit is beyond me.
The adults are laughing at you, for you doltish remark…No other US President has ever received four separate nominations, for the Nobel Peace Prize. Take a moment, to ponder that accomplishment.
“For a nomination alone, the barrier to entry is low: all nominations from heads of state or politicians serving at a national level are accepted. University professors, directors of foreign policy institutes, past recipients of a Nobel Prize and members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee are also among those deemed qualified to submit a nomination for the prize. The nominations require no invitation and as long they are entered before 1 February of the qualifying year, they will be accepted.” https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54092960
Relatively easy for anyone to get nominated. Very very hard to get one.
Trump does deserve credit for keeping us out of war (he has done more drone strikes than the drone-lover, Obama, however). With 2 more months of Trump, let’s hope he can continue to keep us from war. If he does that, fine, give him a prize or a medal or a lifetime of free KFC.
Woohoo!
Why is the Constitution such a disposable document to so many people?
I’ve been listening to the mainstream media, and NOTHING about Wisconsin.
Very little about Pennsylvania. ARIZONA, Georgia, etc.
I can’t wait for Hillary Clintons new book to come out.
THE ART OF THE STEAL
What? It’s been non-stop on the news. Especially Georgia and Wisconsin.
And what, in the Constitution, is being disposed of?
I don’t understand what the poster is getting at either, It’s been all over the news. For example:
A federal appeals court on Friday denied the Trump campaign’s effort to revive a federal lawsuit challenging the election results in Pennsylvania, ruling “the claims have no merit.”
A panel of three judges for the Third Circuit Court of Appeals denied the request by the Trump campaign, led by Rudy Giuliani, to amend its lawsuit, which had been previously rejected.
“The Campaign never alleges that any ballot was fraudulent or cast by an illegal voter,” wrote Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee, for the panel. “It never alleges that any defendant treated the Trump campaign or its votes worse than it treated the Biden campaign or its votes. Calling something discrimination does not make it so. The Second Amended Complaint still suffers from these core defects, so granting leave to amend would have been futile.”
“Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here,” the judges added in their opinion.
Those are the facts. Trumpers believe in conspiracy theories and outright lies from their leader. Fraud, fraud, fraud. People went to my “huge” rallies, I couldn’t have lost to “sleepy Joe”. Will Trump be leaving the country on January 20th? At one of his rallies he said he should if he lost to “the worst candidate ever”.
I personally doubt it. Just lie “ 20,002 of his presidency.
It is concerning that so many are willing to buy the blatant lies, and that so many others in the republican party are unwilling to speak out against them.
It genuinely makes me wonder about the future of our country.
A nation divided cannot stand
Too many people
Making too many problems
And not enough love to go around
Can’t you see this is the land of confusion?
😉
I am so tired of the crap thrown around here about the trump rallies …those dumb hill billy´s and scum you all bash our the same people that fought for these freedoms we all enjoy in this country. I think a little respect would go along way! A lot of vets in that crowd today.
The insults were very awesome there was few kids there too.
Instead of driving by stop get out and ask a few questions or give some understanding or feed back…we don´t have to hate and for the last for 12 years I saw our country ripping apart at the seams..friends are not friends no more family wont talk all because of a political affiliation or preference……..I saw many innocent people hurt, killed, shot, stabbed, towns businesses burn down people out work families struggling kids going hungry and schools closed socializing obsolete… and here we are fighting over a protest or rally… the President whoever he is is not the answer we are..respect be kind be different buck the hate the fear and learn…we are all in this country and in this together lets prevail by being kind and thankful..for the generations behind us no matter the difference..
It’s called the great reset.
Get ready for the balkanization of the US.
You think people in Hong Kong deserve the CCP?
Remember Obama’s reset button with Russia…
Well I hope your whistling numbed your lips by now waiting so long for my answer.
There are so many hateful vile troll leftists on this specific article, its a horrible shame you live in the United Stated of America.
Leave and go to a communist country and enjoy its pleasures-which are NONE! You have no idea of what God and Country has given you ,and you still quote the leftist’s lying talking points from the false news spaghetti channels!
In 2018 President Trump passed legislation in place that will nullify an (in fact this) election due to election fraud and international interference. The servers captured by our DOD in Frankfurt are evidence enough to prove fraud and computer algorithum manipulation shifting votes from Trump to Biden whenever necessary to stay ahead of Trump’s surging vote count. Again the thousands of signed affidavits of voter suppressions and ballot counting discrepancies HAS an immense value and strength in court filings either by Trump’s attorneys or by private lawyers. Appeals will move their way upward to the Supreme Court as fast as possible. It will happen!
Enjoy your false Biden who has NOT been officially declared the winner by Congress. AP is not Congress ! He’s just a comedy show right now.
I am proud to see 40+ Republican patriots marching and representing their belief in their President Trump. If it had been advertised better more would have participated.
Voting machine fraud occurred in the Democrat controlled swing states. Fraud is their mantra and is always constant controlling their voting destiny.
Your troll comments of “show me the proof” isn’t warranted except in the judicial court system. It will be provided and these court cases will continue thru December and go until January 19,2021.
This game is in overtime and the Republicans have the ball!! Stand by while the good is yet to come.
You trolls voted for a candidate who endorses full amnesty for 20 million illegals, free health care for all of them (you still have to pay),open borders, full allegiance to COMMUNIST CHINA, higher taxes,full petroleum ban, climate change fanaticism, loss of jobs and more unemployment.
ARE YOU PROUD OF HOW YOU SOLD OUT YOUR COUNTRY????????????
Oh, so proof is coming even though none has been presented in over three weeks since the election? I’m not going to hold my breath.
The proof isn’t going to matter to someone who isn’t well versed in election law and statues, especially when the media has been irresponsible in its coverage.
The Constitution provides a means to correct and present evidence.
I agree that the narrative is complete one sided, and it serves to make it difficult for those who actually might consider the nature of fraud.
All you have is a “narrative.” WHERE’S THE EVIDENCE?
In the JFK files.
“The Loch Ness Monster ate my homework.”
The ignorance of the brainwashed masses to completely ignore a long sordid history of human beings involved in many kinds of conspiracy against their fellow human beings.
Then we have over 200 non stop years of endless wars, and armed conflicts involving blunt force resource acquisition.
Explain to me how real power truly operates?
By issuance of participation medals?
There are plenty of people who recognize human history as the non stop exploitation of the fight or flight genetic disposition within humans.
I guess the safest way to make sense of a chaotic world is to believe whatever Donald Trump says without asking for evidence.
Yeah, don’t hold your breath. Trump is not going to overturn the election.
I’m sure it’s perplexing to Trump that all of his attempts at stealing the election didn’t work. And while he was trying to cheat his way to a second term he planted the seed that it was going to be a “fraudulent election “ and all his followers lock stepped behind him believing him. With Trump there’s always a con, an ulterior motive and no matter how infantile and ludicrous the con his followers blindly follow.
Thank you for speaking your truth to the blind, deaf, and dumb, that represent many on the left.
What I’ve witnessed on this page is extreme vitriol for those who understand the importance of lookin past main stream propaganda.
The challenges to the” breaks in the chain” of command that happened in 5 key counties, in 5 key states.
I hope that some of the more responsible of the leftu bunch might actually venture to look at those people who have witnessed corruption and vote tampering, and have testified to those observations.
It takes courage to set aside your political issues and recognize this election was different In many ways.
Haha, it’s kinda funny but also sad that some people are this disconnected from reality. Obamagate! Durham Report! Hunters Emails! Voter Fraud! Just one conspiracy theory after another.
At what point do you salvage what little dignity you have left and admit you were conned?
They absolutely don’t see it. They bought into the con lock stock and barrel. Why? Being the con that Trump is he played on their fears and in a lot of cases their bigotry. He was going to save suburbia from blacks, save Christmas, encourage WhiteNationalists to act out, etc etc. He , being the least religious person in America even conned the religious right to follow by appointing judges that will vote in their agenda favor.
I’m old enough to have followed Trumps “career” since the 70s. He’s always been a Con, a bigot, a liar, a womanizer, a cheat, a litigator, an arrogant ass. He hasn’t changed a bit. One of the most soulless humans I’ve ever seen.
Crimestopper & rip,
NO PROOF of fraud has been presented by Cheetolini’s attorneys. Judges appointed by republicans have thrown every case but one out of court. NO PROOF. CASES THROWN OUT.
No proof needed. If Dear Leader says it’s so, no matter how ridiculous and false , then it is so.
But the comments against the left, the false narrative that the right is pushing and the misrepresentations of Biden are ok?
Do you actually believe Biden will do this? “You trolls voted for a candidate who endorses full amnesty for 20 million illegals, free health care for all of them (you still have to pay),open borders, full allegiance to COMMUNIST CHINA, higher taxes, full petroleum ban, climate change fanaticism, loss of jobs and more unemployment.”
The “Kraken”, Let’s see if his roar is effective:
https://www.scribd.com/document/486105599/Affidavit-of-Dr-Navid-Keshavarz-Nia-Phd#fullscreen&from_embed
STOP THE STEAL!
“…Cyber-crimes expert Dr. Navid Keshavarz-Nia may be the one to save the election for President Donald Trump.
Dr. Keshavarz-Nia is not a stranger to the mainstream media. In fact The New York Times published a glowing report on Dr. Navid Keshavarz-Nia way back in September writing, “Navid Keshavarz-Nia, those who worked with him said, ‘was always the smartest person in the room.”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/huge-sidney-powell-witness-ny-times-described-always-smartest-person-room-concludes-hundreds-thousands-votes-transferred-trump-biden-battleground-states/?fbclid=IwAR0pT-zHsdTDGBZhGcb_8L_cHol2Y07-yfWv5xJO4sePehyz2huqW8UuAZI
Give it up.
It’s funny, we were supposed to accept Hillary’s defeat but somehow the professional con man was “cheated and stolen from”. It’s sad , but just maybe The majority of Americans were actually sick of his inept administration and voted him out. C’mon, Trump was so desperate and being the Con that he is he even tried to suppress the USPS.
Trump is leaving office and he will be facing so much litigation and lawsuits that his “stolen” election will fade into the past. The whole Trump Criminal Enterprise is in for a world of trouble .
Conjecture is not evidence. Also, he’s complaining about in-person voting but all the Trump lawsuits are attempting to throw out MAIL-IN ballots.
Are you claiming those assertions are evidence?
Dr. Navid Keshavarz-Nia starts his statement by saying he has had no access to official voter data. Thanks, and good night.
yep
“Do you actually believe Biden will do this?”
Why wouldn’t you believe he will do this? Why not take him at his word?
Wow. Just wow. A full on Trump delusionsist. Believes only what Trump tells him to believe, no matter what the truth is. NO “servers” were confiscated, no legitimate affadavits have shown up, not one trump legal case is being elevated to even appeals court, much less Supreme court. ..this person is the exact type of believer that let Hitler take power…
STOP THE STEAL!
Pennsylvania Legislators to consider sending 20 Trump electors to Electoral College.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EDdpk5ldZeI&fbclid=IwAR1-E7azdruNvLMf6tn4PH6BsLU1gD_ECpvOufBvLSjuB3gT-mHUjDoFb4c
That would be a blatant steal.
The hypocrisy, it’s painfully evident.
After calling everyone Snowflakes and “gulping liberal tears” by the gallons, telling liberals to get over it, to move on, to accept Trump he’s the President, to now be pulling this pathetic bullshit when ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF has been presented is something to behold. Look at yourselves. Seriously. You don’t see it, do you? ?
Of course not. You’re in a cult. Whatever your Cult Leader tells you, you blindly believe, no matter how ridiculous. You’re not free thinkers and you certainly aren’t true Patriots no matter how many damn flags you carry around as if it is testament to your love of our country and Democracy.
Trump says jump , you say how high.
Trump says the election was stolen, you blindly believe even though THERE IS NO PROOF.
No court has given Trumps pathetic bid to steal the election from Biden any traction. 40 times.
Do you get it? No, you don’t, because Big Daddy Cult Leader tells you what to think and do. You’re programing was a sweeping success.
You all could use some deprograming.
You voted for someone who can’t tell his wife from his sister.
Can’t speak a full paragraph without offending a POC.
Has to be led off stage by his wife.
Who will be the laughing stock of the world as they eat our lunch.
Has been wrong on every decision he has ever made.
Belongs in a rest home not the WH.
Pathetic.
And you voted for a psychopathic liar. A sexual predator. Trump can’t cobble together two coherent sentences and you know it. He has to be helped down a ramp. He bungled the pandemic response. Oh, and did I mention he’s a chronic liar? Every One of Trumps decisions were A+? How about the awesome obscene tax break for him and his rich buddies. How about he’d like to be dating his daughter? How about Don Jr. go to rehab, his cocaine habit is getting the best of him. Oh, did I mention Trump is a habitual liar? He cozied up to Dictators and shit canned our foreign allies.
He’s a fake Christian. He’s pushing his “stolen election” narrative to ask for money to cover his mounting campaign debt. Cities are lining up to sue for money owed from his clown rally’s because we all know Trump is bad at paying his bills. The only bank left that would give him a loan, Deutch Bank is severing ties because they don’t want to get dragged into the upcoming fraud Indio he’s facing. I could go on forever about Trumps utter failures and unlawful acts but yeah, Sleepy Joe…. Do you actually think we don’t know about Trump?
All that is true and it won’t matter to them.
Notice Hot Coffe will not respond to this.
🕯🌳So who put him at the kids table on Thanksgiving for press conference?
He did.
He thought it would make him and his hands look bigger than when he sat at the resolute desk.
It made him look like he was pulled up to a piano stool for two, sitting on his potty chair that someone shortened the legs on.
When criminal laws are found unconstitutional we throw convicted criminals out of prison. When voting laws are unconstitutional then those votes get thrown out too.
I’m sure you also mean the voter suppression and gerrymandering that the Republicans are so fond of, especially in the south?
What “voting law” are you insinuating is unconstitutional?
It’s right in your face and you still can’t see.
Prove it.
Funny to see the UTTER HYPOCRISY after your cult leader Trump PUBLICLY BEGGED CHINA AND THE UKRANE TO MEDDLE IN OUR ELECTIONS TO HELP HIM.
You don’t see “it” either…
Is that image one of Sydney Powell’s court filings?
Evidence? Other than the orange man says so ?
What is your point? You think you’re proving something? Yes, criminals come in all races and genders. The crimes they commit are atrocities.
Now what’s your point?
Doesn’t fit the media narrative of reporting armed robbery?
What are all those pictures about? If I read the “article” you posted it says there are NO Suspects, then you cut and pasted rando mugshots to the side. If you want to race bait at least have a coherent narrative, loser!
I’m saving my popcorn for when Biden gets impeached for his son’s stupidity. He has ties to overseas interests, through his son, if not himself. The guy is one step away from a pedophile, and has been a joke his whole career. Biden will be shoved aside, and Harris will step up. [edit]
You’re a pedophile. I have lots of evidence and I will release it shortly.
What ever happened to Hunter Bowden’s laptop? Is Giuliani still holding onto all that child porn for safe keeping?
Yep, he’s hiding it in his pants…
(Thank you Borat)😂😂😂😂😂
Threatening to flood the message boards with off-topic copy-pasta because you don’t have a coherent argument? How delusional do you have to be to think that the American media doesn’t focus ENOUGH on violent crime?
Hey I know a bunch of veterans who support the guy you don’t like so take that! They couldn’t be wrong or imperfect so why have an opinion that doesn’t align with theirs? Also they don’t mind me using them as political props to support my feelings. The Russia Investigation yielded 34 guilty pleas, some from his own personal advisors, Trumps election fraud cases have yielded zero. In a few years Trump will admit to conning his supporters so he can get one more minute of TV time in to help pay off his next Bankruptcy. Trump delivered Joe Biden to the Whitehouse by showing us that he can’t handle a sixty minutes interview, or was it the raid in Yemen for a cell phone that a NAVY SEAL died for? Remember that? Week one, Trump describes the botched raid by explaining the delectability of the chocolate cake he ate, while our best men conducted a raid no other administration would touch. Maybe it was the constant bickering or the hush money to Stormy. D that he lied to you and I about? Maybe it was the time he wished Epstiens GF well after she was arrested for child trafficking. Or the Impeachment? IDK.
Why it matters…“the pandemic is effectively over”
With a false presumption that 100% of the population is susceptible to the virus, along with only 7% having been infected, it is the view of SAGE, that “the pandemic has only just begun.” Yeadon clarifies, however, that this is “palpable nonsense.”
Since it is demonstrable that “around 30% of the population had prior immunity,” and if one includes some young children who are “resistant,” 40%, and while considering that the infection rate is “somewhere [in] the mid-20s to low-30s per cent,” this means that around 65 to 72% of the population currently has immunity to COVID-19.
And considering the reality of herd immunity, when susceptibility to a virus falls this low, at around 28 to 35%, “that population can no longer support an expanding outbreak of disease,” and thus the virus “wanes and disappears.”
The USA has the most secure election system in the World. the only way to change someone’s vote or faith in the voting system is by using well placed dis-information, which has to be seeded in the belief’s of the voter many months prior to the election. its is sad to see how easy it was to achieve this on ~30% of the population. Just imagine how badly Trump and the GOP would have lost if the other 80 million Americans actually voted. most of them wanted Bernie.
After every past presidential election it comes out that dead people have voted.
https://www.google.com/search?q=dead+people+voted&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A%2Ccd_max%3A2%2F28%2F2013&tbm=#spf=1606679228825
Maybe that’s not a bad idea.🤔 Make them share the paycheck and have to compromise to achieve policy decision or have alternating dominance on policy decisions to avoid political gridlock. That WOULD be a win/win for everyone. Hell, it might even get rid of this partisan bs most people are so firmly entrenched in. I like how you think!
No rain in sight, real estate moguls paving more open space than ever, everybody bitching about the carnival on TV instead, business as usual wins….again!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd9BP2PkVMQ
Lota Haters, if it weren’t for the consequences of communism, I’d like to see all you haters get your wish. You’re not going to like it!!!
Please explain this “consequences of communism “ with some facts and examples besides just declaring it like it’s true.
Google communism
Absolute nuts reply guy
Remember when Biden told workers to form soviets, seize the means of production and abolish private property? Yeah, me neither. Last time I checked he was a milquetoast neolib with lots of corporate donors and tax policy to the right of Ronald Reagan.
Snort!
Wait that’s not what I heard on Hannity and Newsmax.🤪
I must point out that I spoke with the reporter for this story, who had brought up the Penn court ruling against the charges of fraud. I asked her if she knew that the Penn. legislature had just voted to throw out the election results and begin an investigation, and she did not. I pointed out that there doesn’t seem to be unified opinion within most disputed states about whether there was election fraud, and this happening in Penn. is an example. One can read about this resolution on pennsylvania’s legislature website, where they listed several resolutions they passed and what the constitutional bases were for them.
anyway, apparently she didn’t look that up, cuz she did not mention that little factoid here. And I had even sent her the link to it…..
was it a youtube link?
Someone using a different name sent me an email stating, “so much legal stuff going on i know i cant correct an interview but doing more research there was not another certification block in Pennsylvania what happened was a judge ruled in favor of the mail in voting processes being unconstitutional which could allow for a blocking of electoral votes.” If you have a link to that, it would be interesting. All I can find is about an effort that fizzled. https://www.pennlive.com/elections/2020/11/last-gasp-effort-by-pa-house-republicans-to-involve-state-legislature-in-recall-of-presidential-election-results-fizzle.html
PA did not throw out election results. Just not true..they held a small number of mail in ballots to consider but affirmed all the other ballots while the investigation on those few votes went on. Those were not enough to change PA election returns even if all were given to Trump. Which doesnt happen, by the way. If a ballot gets invalidated, it doesnt just go to the other candidate, it doesnt work that way no matter how bad Trump wants it to..