Deputy Health Officer Dr. Josh Ennis Explains the Alert Level In Humboldt, Talks COVID Hospital Capacity and Latino Essential Workers Exposure
Humboldt County officials have been answering questions since the stay-at-home orders were instituted on a two question per media outlet. The Emergency Operations Center takes the questions, and staff reads them on camera for their response. The resulting video, called a Media Availability, is then provided to news outlets at the end of the day.
Here are some of the main points covered in the July 23rd Media Availability session with a rough transcript of answers from Deputy Public Health Director Dr. Josh Ennis, followed by questions we would have liked to ask in response if appropriate.
Media Question: Level 1 is listed as the “new normal”, but most indicators nationwide suggest the pandemic is far from over. Do you anticipate Humboldt County being at that level 2 status for a considerable amount of time? Or are local trends suggesting a potential move to level 1 in the near future?
Answer by Dr. Ennis:
When we wrote originally, level one being characterized as the new normal, it was kind of a nod that the pandemic isn’t going anywhere anytime soon, and that we can expect things to be different for a long period of time. So that includes all the things we’ve constantly spoken about such as hand hygiene, social distancing, masking. The pandemic is certainly far from over and it’s nearing peak spread across the country. So, we are certainly part of this country, we are part of the state of California, and so I don’t see us moving down any levels anytime in the near future. If anything, I would say it’s a steady march towards escalating the amount of disease, because we’re not in a vacuum. We’re affected by the counties surrounding us. We’re affected by other states. It’s as easy as hopping on an airplane, and so we certainly are not going to be going back to level one, I think, anytime soon as an overall alert level.
2 mins in:
Media Question: The threat level for Humboldt County has remained at a level 2 despite a recent increase in cases, are you able to give the public a better idea of what number of cases would warrant us to move to level 3? Level 4?
Answer by Dr. Ennis:
Yeah, I could give an idea of that but, before we talk even about numbers of cases, I think it’s important to talk about what all is going into this decision tool. This is allowing us to have the ability to systematically and methodically look at the same things day to day, week to week, so that we’re not missing anything. This is a very complex issue, and it’s not as easy as a static snapshot picture in time of how many cases there are, you know, in any given day or any given week.
You know, it might appear very static, but it’s it’s kind of dynamic if you picture, you know, a tub full of water- there’s a faucet with water going in, that’s the new cases, there’s also a drain with water pouring out when people recover, and you know, we can control the flow on potentially both ends- and they’re kind of different things and so the number of new cases is that water coming in. And we call that the ‘disease status’ or/and the ‘epidemiological indicators’ that we’re looking at. You know, on that water going out, that’s the public health side. That’s the ‘commune mitigation’, that’s ‘effectiveness of disease control’ is what we called it in this matrix.
And so that heavily relies on that end of how much testing we have, whether that testing’s giving us a good idea of how much is actually out in the community, and so how much we’re able to contact trace and reliably make a judgment that we’re actually able to chase disease to extinction in these different lines, and so there are a lot of different moving parts.
And we’re looking at both those, and then finally there’s also the healthcare system which is going to be a much lagging setting for evaluating how much disease there is, and so the whole idea is to be far ahead and have some kind of idea of when we can expect numbers to increase in the healthcare setting.
And so getting back to the question about numbers of cases, it’s not as simple as drawing a line between, you know, 10 and 11. It’s looking at the number in the context of everything else, and so in general across these four alert levels, we have kind of a sense of maybe a range of what’s acceptable based upon what’s known about hospitalization rates, based upon what’s known about ventilator rates, and so that’s kind of forming the basis of these ballpark ranges we have in mind. But it’s really one data point in the setting of 10 to 15 other things that we’re trying to look at on a daily basis.
5 mins 5 sec in:
Media Question: Can you explain how transmission of the virus (in addition to number of cases) impacts the overall alert level?
Answer by Dr. Ennis:
Yeah, so, transmission of the virus… I think, would fall into the effectiveness of disease control so as we’ve reported on the website you know we classify based on whether it’s travel related, contact to known case, or its community transmission meaning that we can’t readily identify exactly where the person likely had an exposure. And so community transmission is much more concerning, because it means that there are more cases for every single case that we identify through a test there’s a lot more floating out there. And as that number increases the number of tests just floating out there, we’re going to start picking up more and more as community transmission and so we are looking in particular at how many are attributable to community transmission as part of our ability to suppress this spread of disease.
6 mins 10 sec in:
Media Question: The county is experiencing delays in receiving test results from certain testing methods such as the OptumServe site, does the assessment tool take those delays into account, particularly when it comes to the “Spread of COVID-19 Illness” category?
Answer by Dr. Ennis:
Yeah, so again, the turnaround test- a turnaround time for any given test, if it’s going to be actionable, it needs to have readily access to the testing as well as ready results. And clearly if we’re getting results after someone’s already had their illness, and they’ve already recovered, we’re not going to be able to exercise a whole lot of changing the course of the spread of disease. And so that is something that we take into account as part of the effectiveness of what we’re calling ‘disease control’ and so we look not only at how quick test results are turned around, but we’re also looking at how many we can actually get done across the entire county in any given day. As you could imagine, an outbreak in, for example the jail, would require doing a lot of tests really quickly and so this is something that we’re paying attention to as part of the alert level system. And something that we’ve discussed for months now about how to grow our testing capacity and be able to turn around the test quickly as we do it.
7 mins 45 sec in:
Media Question: Mendocino County and Del Norte County are experiencing large outbreaks – outbreaks large enough to nearly place them on the governor’s watch list. Given the amount of commerce and travel between Humboldt and neighboring counties, shouldn’t the alert assessment tool take into account the current state of the pandemic regionally, rather than just in our own county?
Answer by Dr. Ennis:
Yes. This is actually a fantastic suggestion, and it is something that we have given thought to. While this alert level system is characterized as ‘what’s going on in the ground in our county’ it also acknowledges the fact that we aren’t a vacuum. We’re not an island, and so we have built in some ability to exercise a little bit of dynamic ability to move between alert levels based upon what’s happening around us. And so this is a great example of why you can’t look at any one thing and you need to be looking at many different things, because it’s a very dynamic process and if Mendocino or Del Norte right to the north and south of us are experiencing cases, that water faucet clearly is going to be affected, and so we do pay attention to what’s happening. We also have fairly regular contact with health officers across those two counties as well as the greater northern California region, and so we’re in contact with them, and so we are aware of what’s going on in neighboring counties.
9 mins 20 sec in:
Media Question: Can you give us an idea of if and when you expect the ‘surge’ to hit Humboldt, and what do you anticipate the Fall will look like at local Hospitals with the coming regular flu season on top of the COVID-19 surge escalating locally?
Answer by Dr. Ennis:
Yeah, so harking back to the very beginning of this I presented some models, and these models were kind of more of a scenario tool- meaning that it was a simulation and it’s very different than being able to predict the future. We made a lot of assumptions, and applied it to what we know about our county demographics to try and just demonstrate the magnitude of what we’re dealing with. So, fast forward several months and seeing where we’re at now, you know, if we wanted to quantify a lot of things we’re doing, such as mask or facial covering wearing, hand washing, social distancing- I don’t know that it could put a number of what percent mitigation that equates to as a non-pharmaceutical intervention, which is what those models were really based on. My opinion is that we can certainly expect to see a lot more cases in the Fall and Winter, and it is something we are concerned about as we know that is going to inevitably be right on top of the flu season. Now, whether we’re able to get through it successfully or not- does depend to some degree on how used to this new normal we get to, and so I don’t know that with any definite certainty, that we’re going to have a surge where it’s overwhelming like New York.
I think we’ve had a lot more time to prepare, and so we might just see cases go up, and kind of reach a steady state at some point. I mean, the whole idea though is that we can push it further, we can push it further out as well as further down, and we’re doing a lot of things that continue to do that. And so our surge may actually look more like a kind of a continuous steady stream that is very difficult to manage, but actually manageable within our healthcare system. And our healthcare system is, it is a bit of an island in Humboldt County, and so we know that we are more at risk than say, some of the more urban areas for having a surge, even if it’s small- really have a devastating effect on our ability to care for everyone who needs the care.
12 mins 30 sec in:
Media Question: Looking at the local demographics of people who have contracted COVID, particularly the Latino and Hispanic identifying groups, can you give an estimate of what percentage of those individuals work as essential labor (regardless of the way they contracted it), and can you be specific about what types of jobs that includes for that subset of cases?
Answer by Dr. Ennis:
Yeah, so as far as giving a percentage, I… we are not tracking job information at this time. We are looking to start doing that, and I know the state’s looking to start doing that, so I don’t know that I could give you a number. I could certainly tell you that in general, Latino/Hispanic-identifying groups work in lower-wage jobs, and it is more difficult for them in general to shelter in place as a result. And so locally, what we have seen is that this particular group works more frequently in agriculture, and they also work more frequently in construction, and so they’re inevitably at more risk of exposure to the virus.
I think the point here though, is that we know that both African-Americans as well as the Latino communities suffered disproportionately from COVID-19. They’re hospitalized at higher rates, and the pandemic has brought out long-standing health inequities that are well-accepted amongst the Public Health community. They suffer from high blood pressure, diabetes, heart disease- all with higher amounts, and this is what COVID-19 preys upon. It makes those people with comorbidities much more likely to have severe disease, and so I think we’re putting out the call, and sounding the alarm that we all need to work harder to try and alter the course here.
It’s not about saying any one particular group is being more risky than the other. This is about trying to highlight the health inequities that exist, and and try and do something about them before it’s too late.
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Catch the covid19 and get it over with already. Do not lockdown, do not wear a mask, have a good supply of Mucinex expectorant on hand and get the covid19 now and get it over with. This is shit brained thinkong to think we need to “slow the transmission”. We need to speed up the transmission and get this country, economy and business sector back to producing tangible goods and services. This is no different than other viruses, only difference is the fear that has been digitally flashed into your mind from the TV screen. Nobody has personally seen anything to cause fear, you are being victimized and stressed out by electronic media and brainwashing news anchors like fox news and cnn. Turn off your tv and think for yourself, you have been listening to your TV God for way too long! Dare to think for yourself!
That’s a good point TG.
The original top level decision was to quarantine or let it run. It appears we’re gonna do both. Life of the virus won’t be denied.
The human caused panic and inability to cope, is rising. Deaths locally aren’t.
The media storm you describe, is the only difference between this #19 and the other 5 pandemics I’ve personally witnessed. Who stirred the hornet’s nest?
GloboCap (Global Capitalist) are expert hornet nest stirrers. Stir nest….create choas….steal power, sovereignty, freedom, it’s all about transferring the money and power away from governments which can be held accountable by we the people, and into the hands of the multi national corporations.
Time to get mad as hell and refuse to take it. Know what I mean Mr. Beal?
I’m going to encourage the young and strong to figure out WHO is to blame. I don’t care WHO did this one, because it’s here.
Shall we predict the next pandemic? WHO will do it?
WHO ever it will be, it will absolutely follow the same script.
They own all the production houses, the cinemas, and all we can do is buy popcorn and milkduds, and sit back and choose how we should feel about this Sci Fi , WHo dunit.
You either produce goods or you consume goods.
One side is potentially more powerful if they could figure it out .
I agree– you should get covid 19. Natural Selection is a powerful tool, as we’re seeing in Florida and Texas. While Mucinex would not be my drug of choice, whatever gets you to the other side is great, especially since it’s so cheap. Maybe mix it with some disinfectant to speed the process?
Yea why can’t TV God fear and shelter like their supposed to. Just follow orders like your supposed to and freedom and security will be yours derp. No need to worry about those old pesky legacy systems of person to person interaction I say let’s totally embrace the AI technocracy and be glad that our saviors, the pharmaceutical corporations, come up with that chemical soup so we can inject it into the bodies of our children. What could go wrong.
Great point, the reasoning for postponing to begin with was fear it would overwhelm our Health care system. This is not happening, 98 percent of people have barely any symptoms. Best thing to do is eat vitamins and supplements, unmask and live a normal healthy life, if you catch it, your immune system will be able to respond better if your not in any fear or stress from resorting your life. Live normal, no mask, eat good food, drink good juice, eat good vitamins and supplements along with protein powder. All this fear, and worry about bills and jobs are causing greater health issues. Live it up Summer 2020 is half over, get out of the fear TV box and be here now, look around, do u actually see any corona virus??? I don’t! Television and mass media hypnotization.
Once again he says Blah Blah Blah blah Blah…… lions tigers and bears….. more fear to convince us to be afraid.
I have been trying to catch
Coronavirus everywhere I go, just to get it over with in the convenience of summer… I guess I am a loser since I can not even catch the “deadliest virus in our lifetime”… so many people have caught it and had zero symptoms, they say “I kinda had a sore throat last week…..” too many old people and baby boomers, time to hand the world over to the next generation, these old geezers would rather have us lockdown than and destroy our lives than accept their inevitable fate; they are soon going to die; they believe in Jesus and heaven and all that crap but they are afraid of a virus and afraid to die, it is a signal that their belief in the all seeing eye of prudence is nothing but a Sunday Social game, anyone with a high level of intelligence knows there is no god. Just a bunch of brainwashed fools imho. If your so excited about heaven, then why are u afraid of Corona Virus and dying….. it makes no sense!!! Hypocrites and parasites
Wow. You are ignorant as it gets. And that’s coming from a pretty ignorant person myself……Why are you so concerned about everyone else? Just because people are genuinely concerned for their family and friends makes them hypocrites and parasites???? You really need to check yourself man/woman/…or whatevs you are.
People are not “concerned for their friends and family” …. people are concerned about their attachment to their friend and family, what is the big fear of death? When you die, all your tv propagated fears of corona viris will be over…. people are so faithful in their religions but are afraid of dying…. it really makes no sense. We will all die eventually. What is the fear?
When you watch a loved one tell you
” letting go is much harder than dying”
, you understand how attached we have become to outcome.
Prepare for death and destruction and all that you are afraid of, then you will know what true warriors faced everyday to protect their families and communities from danger.
We were once WARRIORS.
Alert levels are a mechanism to creat fear and emotional imbalance as needed..Just like the color coded terror alerts they started after 9/11. These control freaks want you in fear, so you will willingly accept it when they revoke your freedoms. Shit Kym is already supportive o putting people on ankle monitored house arrest for testing positve for a common ( it is now) infectious disease….
C.J. Hopinks over at the ConsentFactory offers an accurate summary of our current media narrative emergency mind trip….and what it’s all about…hint, it ain’t about saving lives, that’s fer sure. OffGuardian has a pretty good grasp on the situation too.
Yeah, Ron and Rand, they’re my go-to guys for words of wisdom. ???
Do you have a point to make, you know, something with some content, or just more empty statements? I have never mention Ayn Rand, ever…
Damn, not a sheeple in the bunch!!! Hopefully their going extinct. I’m proud of you all.
This virus schtick is getting old. Give it a rest, will you?
Kym;
Can you not tell your readers are sick of your doomsday narrative of the corona virus plandemic scamdemic?
Actually, these stories have an average number of readers as other stories of this type. But if you wanted to persuade me that you and others aren’t interested…don’t click on the stories.
“But if you wanted to persuade me that you and others aren’t interested…don’t click on the stories.”
Love the idea, Kym. Unfortunately that never seems to happen.
It’s so hard to turn away from the circus, because that’s where all the action is.
If we stop commenting on this damn thing, maybe the oxygen can get put back on the real issues this community is facing.
The economic shut down has affected more people.
Or maybe kym has become so brainwashed her mind only thinks about corona virus news these days, I mean,: we really dont need corona virus updates several times a day…. be different than mainstream media, nobody believes or is worried about a virus with less than .02% kill rate. You have really let us all down kym. ITS SAD.
I have a solution. Don’t read the pieces…I read multiple news sources a day but I sure as heck don’t read the sports, fashion, etc. news.
Never mind the naysayers Kym, I know you know what your doing.
Even reading multiple news sources may not help in the bigger picture.
It’s only when we detach ourselves from the incessant need to find meaning in the physical world, can we understand the game we’ve been indoctrinated into.
I was not expecting these types of comments… good to see people are waking up to the fraud. Maybe there is hope, not just hype
“I think it is completely misleading,” said Rachel Eade, a Palm Beach County resident who has been researching the same issue.
“We need to remove those cases that are not COVID exclusive, and we need to be giving people that information,” said Eade, who is one of the plaintiffs suing Palm Beach County for its mask mandate. -end of excerpt.
Thanks for Rachel’s expert opinion. I’m sure she knows more than doctors and scientists. I’m sure you do too, after all, being educated at Alex Jones University and continuing your learning with QAnon’s online classes has given you the intellectual edge to come here and give us the facts.
Same goes for all of the “other” brainiacs posting nonsense here.
I am amused by the local Corona Cranks Club. They all seem to be skeptical of the “mainstream media” take on the virus but think nothing of passing on some dingbat with a web site’s half baked gospel. Luckily they have very little effect on thinking people. I compliment Kym on giving them a therapeutic outlet for their neurosis.
A club with probably two members tops.
Of course, only the doctors on TV and Scientists from the CDC know anything….. good grief, remember how they lied to us about cannabis for over 50 years…. do u really believe those modern day doctors who do not heal and only perform surgeries and dish out pills….. they are doctors not healers, there is a huge difference
Uh…gunshot wounds, and motorcycle accidents causing deaths which are being attributed to Covid is not “crank” or conspiracy, it’s fact. Look it up, the health department in Florida has admitted it….how much brighter does the writing on the wall have to get before you read it? It’s pretty damn blinding as it is ….look up from your myopic gaze sometime.
Are you asserting that bikers and gun owners are dying because the pressure of dealing with COVID? If so what does that have to do with this dialogue? You guys will run with anything.
Stuff like this:
https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fox-35-investigates-questions-raised-after-fatal-motorcycle-crash-listed-as-covid-19-death
Or https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/colorado-health-department-revises-how-it-counts-covid-19-deaths or https://news.bloomberglaw.com/health-law-and-business/coronavirus-deaths-in-u-s-nursing-homes-revised-downward-by-feds or https://www.foxnews.com/us/pa-removes-200-deaths-official-coronavirus-count-questions-mount
You may question the validity of interpreting these changes but that is no reason to belittle people who differ. It could be equally said “you guys will run anything” if it confirms your anger- never questioning anything if it’s bad enough to justify the policy you support . This is not an exact science no matter how unquestioning people are.
No Mr. Kirby. People dying from these unrelated accidents are being labeled as, and becoming statistics of Covid deaths. The same stats (b.s. stats) used to justify the covid lockdown ect, ect. That’s a fact…is that clear enough to avoid misunderstanding?
If what you say is true, can you explain excess mortality rates this year. If COVID is being over reported, then our deaths should be roughly the same as average. But they aren’t in most countries. There are way more deaths than normal. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
Maybe a financial incentive..?
How much do local run down counties get for a covid related death?
As far as I know, no one gets paid for a COVID related death.
Want the real story from a nurse on the front lines in NYC, or is that a threat to your narrative. Ultimately, the truth will prevail.
https://youtu.be/UIDsKdeFOmQ
Not really, its just more hoopla and propaganda for the fearful produced by the corona fear doctor….
Where do you get you tu.be. Is that a dark net site? Put down the cocktail and pay attention.
Mr. Kirby YouTube is one of the most popular and most used video hosting sites ever created. It is not dark net. It’s just a hosting site for videos of all kinds…and millions of people use it every day.
Actually Im just giving you shit Kym, I enjoy this blog and find it entertaining spot to listen and reason with opposing viewpoints. Always love ur response. I agree dont like it dont read it!
You guys are a joke. A bunch of little kids who can’t stand people having an opposing view, and full of misinformation that they joyfully spread around while doing their best to stop someone with a different view expressing theirs. All you little boys have to do is follow Kym’s advice. If it makes you mad that intelligent and aware people are having a discussion about covid, dont click the link. Real simple that even school age children could figure out.
How old are you guys anyway?
Yeah, researcher, I’m with you.
The blissful arrogance seems wasted on the young and unaware, sometimes.
In their defense, ignorance is easy. Knowledge is heavy lifting. The one fact for certain … don’t ask virus survival advise from a young dummy.
When I read dummy I immediately thought of that old commercial where a car driven by a dummy crashes into a wall and the saying is, ‘you could learn alot from a dummy’. Only its not the kind of stuff you want to learn.
In all fairness I have met and worked with absolutely brilliant young people that really are the hope of the future, so it isnt an issue of age. It’s about seeing life as it is and not how we want it to be, and too many young are refusing to see it as it is.
straight from the cdc
Yep, these test were not ever meant to be used as a case by case test, more of a big picture rough view for monitoring the population as a whole. All of the sudden they are taken as word of God. Kim, sorry Kym, even thinks a positive test is reason enough to have people put under ankle monitored house arrest! Descending into the ridiculous we are…and The Blackbelt fully supports it! But hey, she does stand up for free speech, and does not support the cancel culture, so for that much at least, Thank You Kym.
Word.
I think people who test positive and don’t commit themselves to not traveling by public transportation without prior approval…are irresponsible and yes, even, criminal. But we aren’t talking about the rest of their lives. We’re talking at the most 14 days…
Flattening that curve. …
Damn long curve…
Circle jerk kinda curve
STOP GETTING TESTED!!!! The testing mills and doctors are making big money off of Co vid fear and travel restrictions have to be set up again out of town out of state folk are towing in the C-19!