Municipal Advisory Council Developing in Southern Humboldt

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County Planning Director John Ford listening at the MAC organizing meeting [Photo by Kelley Lincoln]

Citizens in Southern Humboldt feel underrepresented at the Board of Supervisors and have determined to employ a Municipal Advisory Council (MAC) to gain more representation. (MACs advise the Board of Supervisors on the wishes and needs to suburban populations in specific unincorporated areas of the County and communicate the thinking and resolutions of the Board to the community.) Tuesday, they met with County staff in Southern Humboldt to explore how they will form their own MAC.

At the meeting, County Planner, Connor McGuigan gave an informal overview of MAC’s. He explained that as the outlying areas between towns become more populated across California, more communities have adopted them as a place to work out a unified message to the Board of Supervisors.

A group of Southern Humboldt business owners and residents have been exploring the opportunity for about a year now.  Christina Huff explains back in 2018 when the economic downturn really slammed Southern Humboldt’s “Main Street” a group came together, called itself a ‘community collaborative’ and generated ideas and began to take action.

“We did a mini-assessment by interviewing 25 different people who we felt reflected diversity and different areas, analyzed those results, brought those folks together,” she explained. “[We] found that the top two issues were beautification of Garberville for economic development purposes and the need for some way to promote community cohesion and civil communication and to have a stronger voice with the county.”

The Business and Visitors Bureau was working with Supervisor Estelle Fennell on the Gateway project and the mural and other beautification projects were getting started.

The community collaborative thought the MAC could be a useful tool to address community cohesion by providing a venue for civil discourse.  MAC meetings are run with the expectations of public government.  The public is formally noticed of meeting agendas. The discussions have rules of order.  And the council members are obligated to follow the Brown Act.

The ‘community collaborative’ focused on what a MAC could look like and created a proposal to take to Supervisor Fennell back in June.  Once the Board had it, County staff was directed to begin the public process of hearing from the public about what format it should take.

What Other Local MACs Look Like:

The language authorizing MACs is generally vague leaving room for communities to make each one serve their specific needs. As outlying areas between incorporated cities becomes increasingly populated, MACs have become a popular tool. It is important to note that their role is limited to an advisory position. They don’t decide, implement, or authorize any policy.

There are six MACs in Mendocino County.  Redwood Valley’s, established in 2016, is being used as a vehicle to organize after the fires and to monitor unpermitted building during the recovery.

The McKinleyville MAC, established in 2014, is a seven member body.  Its members must reside, own property or conduct a business in the greater McKinleyville area.

The MMAC has organized itself to “advise the Planning Commission and board on local community issues.”

McKinleyville is currently using its MAC to develop a ‘town center ordinance.’  The town also recently got a presentation from the Planning Department on its interpretation of the State’s new law allowing residents to build small units in their suburban neighborhoods. They also had a workshop on a ‘town center ordinance.’

Possibilities for SoHum’s MAC:

Humboldt County staff came to the meeting Tuesday in Garberville with the mindset that they would use the template from McKinleyville in Southern Humboldt as well, but a significant minority expressed a desire to further explore the options in a larger community dialogue.

The boundaries of the MAC will likely be approximately the same as the school district.  It needs to be decided whether to designate seats according to service sector (fire, health, business, etc) or to assign them to community areas (town, island mountain, the cove, etc).

Whether to elect Council seats or to have the Board of Supervisors appoint the seats was a point of discussion. One man felt that appointing seats might give power to the Supervisors to limit minority opinions when the community has not reached a natural consensus.

The types of needs and issues that can be addressed also needs to be developed.  Terri Klemetson from Redwoods Rural was keen to see how it can help organizations leverage support and garner easier access to funding streams. Christina Huff wants to see if communication with county departments like safety and public works can be facilitated.

There was a general support for including representation from the most outlying communities.  A man from Palo Verde suggested organizing the geography of the council around the nine local fire departments. And another suggested also asking the communities through the fire departments for the issues that they most urgently would want to use a MAC to address.

Speaking with Planner Connor McGuigan after the meeting, he couldn’t set a date yet, but says he will return after he has incorporated much of the input he received. He highlighted his intention to welcome input from the regional fire districts.

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Willie Caos-mayham
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6 years ago

??Good morning Kelley, Hmmmmmm. ?

Glow In The Dark Humdum
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Glow In The Dark Humdum
6 years ago

Be nice if only property owners could vote on measures that effect property taxes.

Too many people with no skin in the game allowed to vote on things that they should have no say in.

Willie Caos-mayham
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6 years ago

??Point One.??

Boomer Alert
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Boomer Alert
6 years ago

Ok Boomer. So only property owners should have representation and decide they want to pass the buck to renters and workers, like Prop 13, and not pay their fair share by pushing the burden onto others with no say? That’s called Oligarchy. Ownership of property affects everyone, especially with the growing wealth gap, and just cause you own more shouldn’t make you more equal than other farm animals.

Glow In The Dark Humdum
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Glow In The Dark Humdum
6 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Alert

Not allowing those who can’t properly manage finances to purchase a home any say in raising property taxes keeps government in check.
The unwashed types will always vote for free things off the backs of property owners while contributing absolutely nothing to the community except taking from those who have, by teaming up with government to steal.

When America was founded, only those with land had a say, it was better back then.

Liberal trash has been working with the communists to destroy property rights in America and it needs to be dealt with.

Any new measures should be passed on to renters at twice the cost to teach them a lesson.

Renters aren’t truly Americans until they become vested and should be treated like the second class people they are.

Trump For 20/20
Because liberals have no vision!

Central HumCo
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Central HumCo
6 years ago

~hence, this is the way the Freeman’s Charter for the City of Eureka read.
“Qualified elector” is the way it’s worded.

Dave Kirby
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Dave Kirby
6 years ago

Glow..,That’s one of the silliest trolls I’ve seen on this blog. I am a property owner and long time business owner here in Garberville. I think a MAC is a great idea. I worked to pass the Healthcare District parcel tax. I think its important to have a 24 hour E.R. in our community. Having been a realtor it became clear that the good old days when it was almost automatic that a family could count on having a place of their own were over. It is projected that well over half of Americans will never be able to afford a single family home of their own. I will not go into how the loss of our hospital or an ongoing decline in educational opportunity or public services would affect property values and reduce the pool of buyers interested in living here. By the way I totally support Estelle and feel she is doing a great job and will be supporting her reelection.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
6 years ago
Reply to  Dave Kirby

Estelle is well on her way to reducing property values for the families that currently live here, BTW.. Hospitals are crucial..

msknowitall
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msknowitall
6 years ago

As a person who rented her home(s) most of her life, I take strong issue with this statement, which is frequently made by property owners. Renters pay property taxes and parcel taxes, too… through their rent! Renters also pay for utilities that are folded into their rent and any other expenses the owner incurs, such as impact and development fees. It just doesn’t come in an envelope from the count tax collector. In places where rent control rules favor tenants, like San Francisco (at least when I lived there) landlords sell their properties and get out of business. I don’t have any sympathy for this common argument about taxes from property owners.

Glow In The Dark Humdum
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Glow In The Dark Humdum
6 years ago
Reply to  msknowitall

You don’t own property, so your comment above doesn’t matter until you decide to actually purchase something.

I’m thinking that taking a bus in San Francisco may be a better option of a life choice instead of trying to interrupt a conversation of property owners.

b.
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b.
6 years ago

Only criminals can vote on issues of law.
Only business owners can vote on issues affecting business.
Only hunters can vote on wildlife issues.
Only parents can vote on child raising issues.

I am reminded of a statement by Senator Roman Hruska:
“In 1970, Hruska addressed the Senate, urging them to confirm Richard Nixon’s nomination of G. Harrold Carswell to the Supreme Court. Responding to criticism that Carswell had been a mediocre judge, Hruska argued:

‘Even if he were mediocre, there are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren’t they, and a little chance?'”
REPRESENT!!!

Lynn H
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Lynn H
6 years ago

Thank God your opinion on this doesn’t actually matter.

kelley
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kelley
6 years ago

Darkglow: I heard a bigoted man say once, when asked why he then didnt join the kkk or whatever, ‘for the same reason i don’t hit my wife, kick my dog, or generally harm any other creatures I have dominion over.’ You’re the first person since then, and that was decades ago, who has hit that same nerve in my solar plexus. Ouch.

Doggo the commie
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Doggo the commie
6 years ago
Reply to  msknowitall

Msknowital, I agree completely. I am a homeowner who has never had a child in school, why should I pay taxes for that? And yet I do. I am a homeowner who would not go to Garberville hospital on a bet. Why should I pay taxes for that? And yet I do.
Skin in the game? Glow in the dark, what skin are you speaking of? What you say is elitist and selfish and, dare I say it, simply wrong. ☺

B
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B
6 years ago

Are you kidding me? Only landowners should get to vote on tax issues? They should only be white and male too, I suppose? Get outta here with your elitist bs.

Keahi
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Keahi
6 years ago

This seems to be a growing movement. Covelo recently started its own MAC group, to represent greater Round Valley. There are many issues to address, much work ahead, but enthusiasm and commitment are strong.

unrepresented community member
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unrepresented community member
6 years ago

Property owners in Northern Mendocino pay taxes to the Southern Humboldt School District, Jerold Phelps Hospital District and College of the Redwoods whose board voted us out. We are taxed with no representation. Estelle does not represent us. Our Piercy fire district responds to many calls over the County line into Cooks Valley, Richardson Grove, and Twin Trees, because Garberville does not.

yesmeagain
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yesmeagain
6 years ago

The town in which I live (not in Humboldt) also started a MAC. I have some reservations about it but on the whole it’s probably a good thing. My main concern is that it places another layer of government between the individual and the actual decision makers (county supervisors). What if your MAC — after due process, of course! — recommends that the board of supervisors approve Project X — and you disagree? You, as a citizen and resident of your community, are entitled to have equal standing with anyone else; but when the MAC speaks, it’s assumed that “consensus” has been formed and your objections are likely to be summarily dismissed; that is, not taken seriously because supposedly the MAC has already considered your complaints and “developed consensus.” And finally, the MAC in my town is hampered by the fact that almost nobody actually wants to serve on this body, yet they frequently object to the people who are serving and call for “elections” (the MAC council members are appointed by the supes). Moral of the story: If we want a government body to work for us, we have to be ready to take some responsibility AND the flak that goes with it, as well as the glory.

kelley
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kelley
6 years ago
Reply to  yesmeagain

Good insights from experience. Thanks for sharing.

Festus Haggins
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Festus Haggins
6 years ago

From the outside looking in, this is a bunch of dope growers wanting to influence the B.O.S. into making rules to benefit their illegal money making schemes.

Central HumCo
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Central HumCo
6 years ago
Reply to  Festus Haggins

~i think its smoke and mirrors from both sides. One wants to appoint, the other wants to elect. In the end, what matters? Neither side has to do with land juris. -or they wouldn’t be actively pursuing MORE assumed external authority.

DawnI
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DawnI
6 years ago
Reply to  Festus Haggins

Festus Haggins, Knowing several people who have been meeting to bring about this idea in our community, I can’t think of any of them that are “dope growers”. Many of them are business owners or such that think they can bring Southern Humboldt into the 21st century and something more than a “Boom or Bust ” economic based community.

[edit]
Guest
[edit]
6 years ago
Reply to  DawnI

Many of the local businesses owners launder their illegal weed money through their Main Street business’ . That is one of the reasons some of the businesses are claiming their “sales” are down , cause they don’t have as much weed to sell and launder .

Cattle Greatness ??
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Cattle Greatness ??
6 years ago

MAC life . ?

Life is Good
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Life is Good
6 years ago

What Mr. Ford is really thinking is “how many of these people did I send those We think you’re growing weed letters to.”

Lynn H
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Lynn H
6 years ago
Reply to  Life is Good

upvote

Guest
Guest
Guest
6 years ago

Too bad our district 2 supervisor doesn’t represent us effectively. We wouldn’t be having this discussion if she did. I thought one of the most interesting aspects of the meeting was when a disgruntled commenter got upset that a journalist asked a question, aka her job. You rock Kelly, keep up the great work!

Doggo the commie
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Doggo the commie
6 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Nicely and succinctly put, guest.

Rick French
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6 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Good Idea,forming the group.I want to meet with them. I’m running against Estelle,for some very serious lapses in her performance for me,as my. 2nd District Supervisor. Estelle thinks she never has to speak to me over a very serious federal violation. It’s actually on the Planning video when I served the Planning Commission. Nice report from Kelley. Kelly with an E is my neck of the woods.I remain in pro per for my continuing litigation with the county.
Sincerely, RJF

kelley
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kelley
6 years ago
Reply to  Guest

i rambled too long in the set up and fumbled the question. Thanks for backing me up though!

estellesucks
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estellesucks
6 years ago

Estelle buried SoHum and got paid to do so. Always Follow the Money.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
6 years ago

Municipalism is an excellent way to revamp direct bottom up democracy at local levels! ‘Let’s return politics to moral callings of rationality, community, free association.. for people to chart a rational future, and return power to ordinary citizens… Demand canadates that are delegates, instead of back room dealers, and are 100% responsible to thier citizen base, and neighborhood organizations… we have a responsibility to live in harmony with the natural world, while also maintaining individual freedoms… Energize citizens bases to create “fearless cities”’ Summaries of the link.. and lots of positive information!

Debbie Bookchin: Democracy from the Bottom-up Municipalism
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K3npu1U31AU

Central HumCo
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Central HumCo
6 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

~you lost me at bottom up “democracy”.

No amount of warning could have prepared me for that from you, SmallFry :-((

ism – repeat after me “it’s not about the isms”.

Democracy is a government in the hands of men of low birth, no property and unskilled labor. –Aristotle

The tendencies of democracies are, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge and principles of the majority form the tribunal of the appeal. –James Fenimore Cooper (1789-1851).

SmallFry
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SmallFry
6 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Yea, I live to disappoint you here Central! But Just to let you know, In no way, am I your protege or something…

I am just doing me.. that’s what I know..

But I don’t get you in some ways Central…How could you be soo pro constitution and so anti democracy? What’s your trip? You want to be Russia or something? Go back to a Monarchy? You favor dictators?

But talk about disappointment Central. Your Aristotle quote is a disgrace.. You sound a bit lost here Central.. Welcome to the modren age.. or do you wish for true slavery and never ending toga’s?

‘Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.’ Martin Luther King, Jr.

Democracy is “government of, by and for the people”. -Abraham Lincoln

b.
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b.
6 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

I think we all confuse government and governance sometimes. If we do better governance (self -governance has been suggested by a few) we can avoid more government.

I think you are seeing this as an opportunity for better governance by the citizens in cooperation with the government. Central seems to fear the government so much that cooperation with it in any form seems risky. Especially when the government is operating on the margins of or outside of the constitution. I appreciate your optimism and willingness to try. As always, be careful, be clear, be brave; those who govern are sneaky and fickle.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
6 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

Democracy leads to the tyranny of the majority. The Republic was created, very specifically, to counter the various intrusions of tyrants; whether they come as an individual or a mob. It’s not a term that exists in the Constitution, for reason.

“I do not say that democracy has been more pernicious on the whole, and in the long run, than monarchy or aristocracy. Democracy has never been and never can be so durable as aristocracy or monarchy; but while it lasts, it is more bloody than either. … Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. It is in vain to say that democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious, or less avaricious than aristocracy or monarchy. It is not true, in fact, and nowhere appears in history. Those passions are the same in all men, under all forms of simple government, and when unchecked, produce the same effects of fraud, violence, and cruelty. When clear prospects are opened before vanity, pride, avarice, or ambition, for their easy gratification, it is hard for the most considerate philosophers and the most conscientious moralists to resist the temptation. Individuals have conquered themselves. Nations and large bodies of men, never.”

― John Adams, The Letters of John and Abigail Adams

Redwood Dan
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Redwood Dan
6 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

Unfortunately, I think alot of young people are unfamiliar with the natural world let alone how to live in harmony with it, and have a very watered down understanding of individual freedoms. I try to go through life with a positive outlook, but over the last two years I’ve lost alot of faith in humanity.

And I bought a property this summer, so I’ll throw in my 2 cents or vote if I feel like doing so.

Cattle Great ??
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Cattle Great ??
6 years ago

MAC life .? But the powers must be used wisely.

Too much ?
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Too much ?
6 years ago

Meeting of the liberal minds discussing solutions to their social problems without looking in the mirror first. Classic.

Central HumCo
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Central HumCo
6 years ago
Reply to  Too much ?

‘Liberals’ I knew it!

Fndrbndr
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Fndrbndr
6 years ago

Ford looks pissed

For sure
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For sure
6 years ago
Reply to  Fndrbndr

Right- Ford is the picture of Receptivity, ya? Lots of funny captions can be created for this pic…