Panther Gap Road Collapse Declared Local State of Emergency
Press release from the County of Humboldt:
Panther Gap Road became the first major slide in Humboldt County due to the series of storms that hit the coast. What began as a drop out in the roadway has since turned into a hillside slide and a substantial drop in the roadway itself. Portions of the road at post mile 0.50 have dropped 10 feet and huge piles of dirt and trees now cover the roadway. On January 22, Engineers responded to assess the damage and noticed that the hillside was still moving and clearing out the area would be too dangerous. Humboldt County Sheriff WIlliam Honsal has declared the area a Local State of Emergency. This will allow the Humboldt County Engineers to proceed with remediation and reconstruction plans faster. Current plans are to create a bypass trail for residents to either walk out or use side by side ATV’s to travel through the area. Engineers have been out on Panther Gap Road for several days surveying and analyzing a more permanent solution to this closure. Crews will be on Panther Gap Road in the next few days opening up a trail.
Updates on the status of the trail and road will be posted as they become available.
Panther Gap Road drop out on January 22, 2019
Panther Gap Road on January 28. You are looking at the roadway in the lower right hand corner. The roadway has made a substantial drop as trees and debris from the hillside came down a few days later.
Earlier Chapter: Panther Gap Road Closed Due to Slide
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Sure looks like a huge difference in six days. Is there any easy way around it?
No. There’s a possibility of accessing a MUT trail below there (roughly) but it goes through (what at least used to be) a roadless portion of the park, is approximately parallel below Panther Gap road and may be affected by the scope of the slide anyhow. If It’s still a roadless portion of the park in the management plan, It’s not legal to drive a motorized vehicle on it without changing the plan. On the other side, the road either winds easterly and ends at the BLM Gilham Butte protected area (it used to go through to the upper portion of Salmon Creek, but old slides ended that), or winds southerly and ends in the same protected area ( this portion used to go through to Doodyville, but slides ended that), or winds down through the Middle Creek watershed and down to private lands along the Mattole. With access granted across park and private lands, it might be possible to cross the Dry Creek watershed and get back to the Honeydew Road in the Windy Nip area, but that would take a lot of access agreements and a lot of road-connection engineering in winter conditions. Such a bummer. A bunch of folks live in this lovely area. This will be tough.
I like it!
Looks like we are walking from here. East coast has their polar vortex, we have our road sliding vortex. That mess will require so hard work.
road sliding vortex > polar vortex
I think you have that backwards friend. Have you seen what is happening during the polar vortex? Have you seen the count of deaths attributed and growing as a result?
Definitely roadslide vortex < polar vortex except in your little world, oh that’s right, I guess some trees did die in the roadslide. Learn your less than and greater than signs.
If the mud froze it would be easier to drive across.
Once I lived out a half mile of road yet to be rocked and walked five gallon propane tanks to a site.
Then there was a cold spell and the mud froze solid and you could drive on it.
I disagree. In panther gap thr people took great care of our elders. In the cold blast no one did and they died
?And when it was first reported people were making fun of how minor it was. ?
Yeah right!!! So much for THAT theory!!! ;-]]
some big time pot farmer would have had enough money to fix it back in the old days.{go industrial hemp.}
They cant honestly expect us to pack everything in on a goat trail all summer. Get your shit together and get this fixed county. You supes just got finished giving yourself a raise. Its time to prove that you deserve that extra money.
Everyone in the gap should get a complete refund on taxes if this isn’t fixed soon.
Also crews have been there a week and an atv trail is all they came up with? What are they even getting paid for? Standing around all week just to say its dangerous, what a joke.
Everyone in the Gap should pay all their income taxes from when they started farming. Lets go back say 40 years. That should be enough to fix this road.
Almost all county taxes come from sales tax and property taxes. Both of which were driven up by growers and are inescapable no matter how much income they hid.
Very true .. prop tax revenue has to be at an all time high. Maybe that is why the board gave themselves a pay raise??
~brainwashing is going on on a massive scale.
Gave themselves a pay raise. Pfft!
California state Constitution Sec. 7 When the duration of any office is not provided for by this Constitution, it may be declared by law, and if not so declared, such office shall be held during the pleasure of the authority making the appointment; NOR SHALL THE DURATION OF ANY OFFICE NOT FIXED BY THIS CONSTITUTION EVER EXCEED FOUR YEARS. (my emphasis).
Jefferson served two terms as President, leaving office with clean hands – he refused to accept pay for his Public Service. <<That's what Public Service is. Get in, serve, get out. Hence, the ridiculous idea of paying these criminal parasites a pension frosts my _______. Let them pay for their own medical BENEFITS and collect social security like most everyone else does.
How do you feel about retired military getting pensions while still young and other benefits at taxpayer expense. You calling them parasites? Just curious… have you run for office yourself?
~no. I would Never refer to the military as parasites – ever. Let me add here – “We did not raise armies for conquest or glory.” Jefferson. Foreign wars aren’t on the Constitutional menu.
Run for office myself? I stay secluded -don’t know many peeps -just the despots.
Plus, i don’t do codes, regulations, ordinances, or statutes in the Matrix. I have zero, zip, nada use for Attorns practicing a foreign jurisdiction on American soil. The original 13th amendment is alive and well -just not put into use.
It would be a complete 180 if i stepped in – with a lotta help from new friends.
You really seemed like you were doing better for a while last week, but you’re back to matrix-talk and fabricating historical “facts” again. Whatever you were doing last week, whether it was therapy or meds or just getting more sleep, you should do more of that. I’m dead serious.
That doesn’t even make sense.
The military served their entire country and are paid by each state through taxing something of their choice. Calif chose motels and resorts if I remember right.
Gas taxes pay for roads.
Property taxes are unconstitutional.
Those who keep insisting we tax everything under the sun including the sun, keep us too broke to buy gas and splurge on motel rooms. They are the ones who are against the Vets, the Military. The ones who oppose the raising of taxes are for our Vets and our fellow countryman. Without pocket change dangling in our jeans, we have no spare coins to share.
Ever since the politicians started promising Vets, Homeless, Jobless, College attenders, the moon in exchange for the raising of taxes, we have endured more homeless than ever before.
How do YOU feel about retired military getting the shaft while you push higher taxes to give to the politicians who promise the moon and deliver nothing but more misery?
~conditioned programming where the mind and the world meet. The mind settles on accepting a certain overall range of information and space is limited, and that range becomes a person’s reality.
“Those who come after us will have to risk their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to bring back the Republic that this generation has timidly frittered away due to “white guilt” and political correctness . . .” An American Veteran
A 1040 form is for tribute paid to Britain. (IRS Publication 6209).
The tax system is based upon voluntary assessment and payment, not upon distraint.
Flora v US 362 US 145 (1960).
Grace Commission Report: “None of the taxes go to services for the people. Let me point this out now. Your income tax is 100% voluntary and your liquor tax is 100% enforced tax. The situation is as different as night and day. Consequently, the same rules just will not apply.” Dwight D. Eisenhower 1953, testifying at the Sub. Ways & Means Committee.
The FCC, CIA, FBI, NASA and all of the other alphabet gangs were never part of the United States government. Even though the “US Government” held shares of stock in the various Agencies. U.S. V. Strang 254 US 491, Lewis v. US, 680 F.2d, 1239.
Codes, rules, statutes, however labeled, are unconstitutional in the sense that they create a Federal constitution in opposition to the original. The power of arrest, law and jurisdiction of ‘courts,’ rest w/the people. The De Facto Government has no authority other than that voluntarily submitted to by the people of the union States. “There, every man is independent of all laws, except those prescribed by nature. He is not bound by any institutions formed by his fellowmen without his consent.” Cruden v Neale, 2 N.C. 338 (1796) 2 S.E. 70.
There is no use in asking an Attorney about any of the above because: “His first duty is to the courts…not to the client.” U.S.v Franks D.C.N.J. 53F.2d 128. “Clients are also called “wards of the court” in regard to their relationship with their attorneys.” Spilker v. Hansin, 158 F.2d 35, 58U.S.App.D.C. 206. Wards of court. Infants and persons of unsound mind. Davis Committee v. Lonny, 290 Ky. 644, 162 S.W.2d 189, 190.
Did you get that? An Attorney’s first duty is not to you and when you have an Attorney you are either considered insane or an infant. They are your mouthpiece. You are too incompetent to speak (and stand) for your-self.
[edit] Hoover and Kennedy were the only presidents to ever refuse their paychecks. Obama gave MOST of his back to the treasury, not all.
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/fortune/2016/11/14/donald-trump-presidential-salary
Jefferson was so deeply in debt for most of his life, it’s ridiculous to think he would turn down a paycheck. You know as little about history as you do about current politics.
You’re right that there’s brainwashing going on, its right-wing nutjobs on YouTube creating alternate-reality versions of history and tricking you into believing them.
At one point, Jefferson may have had to sell his own children, by his slave(s), to survive economically.
Not happy about it, but you do have to take the good with the bad. Jefferson agonized over slavery as did Washington.
Anybody with five minutes to spare can sum up Trump’s contribution to humanity. That includes coffee and restroom breaks. It’s not going to be pretty. Pretty ugly right now.
Manage your own life and don’t worry so much about others, I’ll bet you and moonbeam, and nuisance are close…just sayin.
Maybe follow your own advice. [edit]
Everyone’s mad at government officials for raising their pay when times are tough — understandably — but it’s illogical to think that eliminating pay raises for elected officials is going to make more money available for public services;, pay raises represent a small thimbleful of money in the giant tank of the county budget, and that’s true all the way up to the federal government. I deeply respect the occasional elected official who decides NOT to take a pay raise when constituents are struggling, but supervisor/congresspersons/whatever have to pay their bills, too. And a county supervisor, let alone a state or federal legislator, works 24/7/365. They can’t walk into a store or a restaurant or go to a social event without being buttonholed by constituents — that’s part of the job. If they’re not representing you well, get active — lobby, protest, vote — run for office yourself.
These are good times.
~Government Officials ? Corporate cronies bleeding from their fingers trying to hold onto their lies.
They work 24/7/365 – yeah, sure. Ever read one of their agendas? We, the People, aren’t on it. How many public meetings have you gone to?
Oh yeah they do make “Declarations” for the homeless, and “Declare” a state of emergency for road repair – big whoop.
For the most part, they bring nothing to the table, add no value to society and do not have any more authority than the ice cream man. Public Theater, nothing more.
?Good point.
Meanwhile we have a local that slaughtered a pig and took soup to every neighbor he could get to. Made it out one day and brought fresh cheeseburgers to all same people. Working on a plan if we get a medical or fire out there too.
Nobody mentioned income tax? Income tax on 280,000 yr x 40 years= 1.68 mil.?? Nobody mentioned also, INCOME TAX GOES TO FED ANYWAY! PLUS Social Securityyy!!! Another 3.4 mil!!!! Them pot grower woulds of had a good retirements!
Taxpayer you have zero clue of how this county operates. They have been collecting tax money on unpermitted structures and have looked the other way for decades. Income tax goes to the feds so I don’t know how it would even help the county in this situation. Way to turn the counties mismanagement of their roads and money into an attack on legal and permitted growers.
Besides all the tax money growers gave the county, what about the huge windfall from all the abatement fines? The county is rolling in grower money right now.
~the County of Humboldt is drowning in unredeemable paper. Let’s not forget the seven incorporated cities; Trinidad, Arcata, Blue Lake, Eureka, Ferndale, Fortuna and Rio -whose City Counsels all turned their heads when the Talking Heads/Attorns put “Countywide” on the Meas. Z Ballot. KNOWING damn good and well that county tax cannot be collected in the incorporated areas of the unincorporated county.
Federal and State money can slosh back to the County through grants, matching funds, FEMA, road building, etc. after decades of FoxRot, every thinks the money is gone and Hillary was a monster, on and on.
Are unpermitted structures taxed? How does that work?
~yes. Do i pay it? No. There’s the Teeter Plan that says if the County of Humboldt ain’t hurtin’ (FAR from it), no delinquent tax sale can take place. Second, i own my home and i didn’t render it for taxation. A few years back, on E.K.’s blog, a posted comment said that sixty some percent (or more, i can’t remember exactly), of the buildings in Humboldt do not have building permits. Third, “In this state” and “in the state” are not the same. Semantic deceit abounds. Fourth, Property taxes are for corporations. Do a Corporate Denial doc. Last time i paid was ’06 or ’07, when i figured it out.
1795 U.S. Supreme Court decision which states in part: “In as much as every government is an artificial person, an abstraction, and a creature of the mind only; a government can interface only with other artificial persons. The imaginary having neither actuality nor substance, is foreclosed from creating and attaining parity with the tangible. The legal manifestation of this is that no government, as well as any law, agency, aspect, court, etc. can concern itself with anything other than corporate, artificial persons and the contracts between them.”
Penhallow v. Doane’s Administrators, S.C.R. 1795, (3 U.S. 54; 1 L.Ed. 57; 3 Dall. 54).
Have you walked it while gunfire erupted around and below you? That was 600 yds of slide moving above and way below you. Those weren’t gunshots but trees being crushed 110 yds down. Dare you to take your baby excavator out there and fix it your own self.
hard situation. The irony here seems to be that the most of us year round residents here are good ole nature heads. Loving the place, dependent on that road…waiting.
You knew it would happwn in your lifetime…
How far from Hwy 101 is this slide?
What would seem like a million miles (and not as the crow flies)
About 15 long, slow, beautiful miles through Humboldt Redwoods State Park, Where Humboldt Redwoods ends going west from 101 on Mattole Road which becomes the “Wildcat” Road. Watch for Redwood Park sign, left turn. Prepare to drop. Mostly private property. only Panther Gap Road is public.
Only part of the road is public. It turns into private property.
Throw some more money at it like Venezuela does, yells the tax hoes. https://twitter.com/PolishPatriotTM/status/1074448969336532992
Kym, you’re okay with HumCo lying through his teeth and Shak calling people hoes, but I get edited for calling them out..
The link you used said Obama gave a “sliver” of his income back. You said “Most”. It seemed unfair to HumCo to accuse them of lying while you hadn’t proved your point.
The distinction between making a personal insult ( ie you’re an idiot, liar, etc ) in a post and making an insult that will pass muster seems to have escaped you. Review Sparkleman’s posts. He manages to insult pretty constantly by placing his insults in proximity of the poster he trolls. It’s clear to everyone that he means to personally the target yet doesn’t get edited. It is a tactic that takes no great intellect to implement.
Funny the smartest person on the board can’t figure that out. 😉
So the only way past the slide is Briceland Rd. to Wilder Ridge or from Ferndale -Petrolia?
Neither routes would be a bypass for this slide for those that live past the slide.
Oh puhleese! Cry me a river! This is what happens when you live way out on Panther Gap Rd and don’t pay taxes for a millenia. Suck it up – it’s the pride of ownership and being a so-called cool outlaw – which no longer exists in these here parts. Adapt and get used to the mainstream mutha-fuckhas or get out! Our brand of capitalism requires that you know how to play a relativly unfair playing field largely based on Your decisions and choices. WAA!
House Slave Always Keeps The Others In Line. Brother slaying brothers… for a mere bit more share of the take.
I am surprised. With all of those many massive industrial grows out there with their delivery trucks beating on that road you would think the county could have foreseen this. I mean…since most of those huge scenes are now permitted you’d think that somewhere in the process the ability of the road would have been appraised. So two thoughts…1) Is the county just selling permits willy-nilly as many as they can so they can collect fees and taxes and really doesn’t care about road stability that serves the community?…2) Does the county not really look at the county roads while selling many huge permits? Are they only focused on private property requirements and upgrades, making permit applicants drop massive funding into upgrades and overhauls that end up in much better infrastructure than what the county requires of itself? Because I’ve seen lots of this- shitty county road leading to beautifully-required private road stuff going on.
Do they do inspections before permitting places at all? Check afterward?
Doubt the biggest grows would generate the kind of of road damage even a moderate log show would. These slides aren’t about traffic they are all about geology. Be it 299 or the Redwood Drive blowout north of Redway. Had nothing to do with what was moving over the road. All the trucks in Humboldt can’t do the damage of a seam of blue clay.
Thanks for pointing that out. I guess this is a seam of blue goo there? Yeah that stuff is a mess! I only jumped on the county because I’ve seen the very expensive upgrades they require of roads and culverts for permit grows…and I’ve seen the county allows their own roads and culverts to not be anywhere near as robust or wide or well-built. Double standards abound with them….But yes- blue goo is the great equalizer around here and we are all merely it’s subjects!
Having been a county planning commissioner more than once got the county to back off on demanding road improvements on projects as simple as a lot split. Usually could get by with a turnout or two to satisfy Cal Fire if you were actually increasing development. I remember one lot split in Salmon Creek where they asked the parties to widen a length of the existing road and an existing bridge where they were actually reducing the density. Turning three parcels into two.
Wonderful blue clay.
I always thought if you could haul it out in bulk and run it through some kind of grinder you could then reload it pulverized and use it to seal new ponds.