Amazon’s Humboldt Project Meets Rowdy Opposition at First Public Meeting

The audience at the Azalea Hall public meeting.

The audience at the Azalea Hall public meeting.

Hatred of Amazon was in full force during the first public meeting on the company’s plans to build a delivery center in McKinleyville, with accusations ranging from labor exploitation to plastics pollution.

Allegations like those are irrelevant to the project’s land use review but that didn’t stop the capacity audience at the April 29 meeting at Azalea Hall from making them.

One speaker said Amazon is “anti-union” and is a socially irresponsible company that only cares about “money, money, money.”

Another urged the county not to “support corruption” by approving the project.

One woman alleged that an Amazon worker at an Oregon fulfillment center “dropped dead” on the job and supervisors disregarded it and ordered co-workers to “continue their work around his body for a whole hour before paramedics arrived.”

That prompted a response from Amazon Economic Development Policy Manager Stephen Maduli-Williams, who said medical attention was given immediately and warned against “spreading misinformation.”

The meeting got off to a rowdy start, with Planning Director John Ford’s responses to questions clipped by interruptions.

“You know, I get letters with all sorts of expletives and I’ve been flipped off before but I expected more from McKinleyville, frankly,” he said at one point.

When things temporarily calmed down Maduli-Williams proceeded with a presentation on the project.

On multiple parcels in the McKinleyville Airport Business Park, Amazon seeks to develop a 40,290 square-foot “commercial warehouse” that will intake deliveries from fulfillment centers.

The facility won’t warehouse products, only receive and deliver them to area residents in “Amazon-branded” vehicles.

The delivery station will operate 24 hours a day and be staffed with 227 employees making starting wages of $20 to $23 an hour, with annual payroll topping $8 million.

There will be 115 to 172 vehicle trips per day, the majority of them delivery vans.

In addition to what was described as the “competitive pay,” Amazon workers will get “full benefits” and “career advancement” opportunities.

Maduli-Williams said the company has invested $2.5 billion since 2019 in what was described as the company’s “safety and operations excellence.”

The presentation was derided by audience members, with one saying it was “like listening to a computer trying to entice me to join their company.”

Asked why the McKinleyville site was chosen, Maduli-Willaims said it’s zoned for the project and Ford said Amazon “provides a service that there’s obviously a demand for.”

Speaking over interruptions, Ford added, “I understand there are people who just don’t like Amazon but if it this didn’t have the name Amazon on it, would it be such a volatile discussion?”

“Yes,” several audience members shouted.

There was more shouting and “particularly” addressing “the person in back who’s been calling me names,” Ford said the behavior wasn’t a “good representation” of the community.

Criticism of Amazon also included allegations of sharing customer data with the federal government and “dangerous and psychologically damaging working conditions.”

Others questioned the project location, with one woman saying the 32-foot high delivery warehouse will “stick out like a sore thumb.”

Another asked the county to “consider what kind of employers we’re allowing into our community” and urged people to “draw the line” and oppose the project.

The only speaker in support of the project said it will “allow Humboldt’s economy to grow.”

The meeting is the first in a series, with release of a draft Environmental Impact Report (EIR) expected in September followed by release of a final EIR in January and Planning Commission review in February.

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Kris
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Kris
2 months ago

The crazies were in full attendance, with one woman insinuating that if built the warehouse will be burnt down.
https://lostcoastoutpost.com/2026/apr/30/photos-mckinleyville-amazon-warehouse-meeting-draw/

Mr. Clark
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2 months ago
Reply to  Kris

I have worked in logistics most of my life. I can say the jobs will be 95% transitional. People will get hired there and work will slow down at fedex and UPS and USPS. The real shitty part is the sales TAX with still go to Sacramento. Because the idiots in local government (BOS) let the designation of the warehouse be assigned that way.

Mr. Clark
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2 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

This says different that what i have been told. I think Sac is going to keep our local sales TAX generated here. Then send us the pittance later on. We get only the local TAX, city and county.

A community keeps local sales tax from Amazon orders when a Marketplace Facilitator law is in effect, ensuring tax is collected based on the destination address (where the item is delivered). Under these laws, Amazon calculates and remits local taxes directly to the municipality.
Key Scenarios for Local Tax Retention:

Marketplace Facilitator Laws: Amazon acts as the seller for third-party transactions, collecting and remitting state and local taxes to the appropriate jurisdictions.Physical Nexus: If Amazon has a physical presence (e.g., a warehouse or distribution center) in that specific community, sales tax is legally required to be collected and distributed to that locality.Destination-Based Sourcing: Tax is generally paid to the location where the package is delivered, allowing the local community to receive the tax revenue.Local Tax Specifics: While most states require local tax collection, some states’ Marketplace Facilitator legislation might differ regarding whether local taxes are included.

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Farce
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Farce
2 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

Makes sense about the job scene not expanding here just mostly shifting. I’d imagine UPS and FedEx drivers w their experience to be getting first dibs at Amazon and that is reasonable…

suspence
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suspence
2 months ago
Reply to  Kris

I know the local lefties are pretty far out there but still, f Amazon. Good on em.

CsMisadventures
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CsMisadventures
2 months ago
Reply to  suspence

Anything else you want to run out of town today? Maybe UPS will deliver via bicycle on the Great Redwood Trail. Your package should arrive in two weeks.

Redwood Rumor Mill
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Redwood Rumor Mill
2 months ago
Reply to  Kris

County Sheriff and FBI should be paying her a visit as it’s already been reported to law enforcement

Geoff
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Geoff
2 months ago

Did she make any threats about what SHE would do? If not, what’s the potential charge?

CsMisadventures
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CsMisadventures
2 months ago
Reply to  Geoff

No warrant needed to say something that incites something else, or get on their watchlists.

Eyeball Kid
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2 months ago

Amazon ought to give the people what they are clamoring for, and just tell ’em forget it. Sorry for taking up all your precious time. WTF did you all build a business park for anyway?

Maybe,maybenot
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Maybe,maybenot
2 months ago
Reply to  Eyeball Kid

You are correct. Empty lots in a business park generate little property tax dollars and no jobs not to mention all the benefits tied to the construction. I’m no fan of Jeff Bezos, but Amazon fills a niche in today’s shopping world.

Mr. Clark
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2 months ago
Reply to  Maybe,maybenot

Aside from food and building materials, i buy 80% of my stuff on line. The local stores just dont have it. My average size jean, 32×34 is impossible to find here unless i pay top dollar, $65+, locally. Amazon, $18. And now i can have it delivered in two days. I shopped for four day for a 24″ shop lite. NO place has it in this area. Amazon $32 for two. Shitty junk form china, i hope at least one works.

Bill Lutjens
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2 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

Shop for food at Amazon, tomato sauce, canned fish macaroni noodles are all cheaper and delivered to your door.

Don’t bitch, check out prices yourself.

suspence
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suspence
2 months ago
Reply to  Maybe,maybenot

I wouldn’t call the down fall of brick and mortar retail “a nice niche”.

Thatguyinarcata
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Thatguyinarcata
2 months ago
Reply to  Eyeball Kid

Yeah this shit is wild. How is a business in a business park controversial at all?

Has social media made everyone so thoughtlessly performative or were we always like this?

If you hate Amazon, boycott it. Them having a warehouse in mckinleyville or not isn’t some lynchpin in their business strategy

Eyeball Kid
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2 months ago

We always had it in us and social media tapped us like a keg.

Ahuka 2400
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Ahuka 2400
2 months ago
Reply to  Eyeball Kid

These are the same losers who bitch about the local economy having tanked

CsMisadventures
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CsMisadventures
2 months ago
Reply to  Ahuka 2400

It really is. Look more closely at the images and it’s literally the same people at every protest. Must be nice to be retired with all kinds of time saying what the younger generation should have or have not when it comes to employment. Any employment. And people wonder why so many people grew weed around here.

Farce
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Farce
2 months ago
Reply to  Starryess

Yes- I too have peed on bushes while driving delivery truck. It’s nothing new or even noteworthy…

Mr. Clark
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2 months ago
Reply to  Starryess

the driver needs to use the toilet in his truck. It must have been full. Ooops.

Mr. Clark
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2 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

And women drivers…..ever pee in a bottle?

Farce
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Farce
2 months ago

What an arrogant bunch of jerks! We buy from Amazon because we are trying to survive- save a few bucks where we can. I’d love a solid job like what they are proposing! I’m guessing all these belligerent jerks have trust funds, inheritances or nice pensions to hang out and attend these meetings to raise their stink? Hard-working folks don’t have the time to show up. Like I predicted. The woman who threatened arson should be arrested for terrorist conspiracy and made an example of….Civil discussion is being destroyed by these extremist agitators and they should all be ashamed of their terrible behavior. If anybody had a reasonable objection of course they should have their freedom of speech respected- but this hate-spewing shoutdown crowd was disgusting….

Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
2 months ago
Reply to  Farce

I bet they all shop at Costco.

Mr. Clark
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeffersonian

Costco sucks with all their plastic boxes and mediocre deals. We are forced to use them out of necessity. Remember when walmart was accused of destroying main street? Now Scamazon is destroying walmart. LOL.

Look it up
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Look it up
2 months ago
Reply to  Farce

Amazon heavily invested into AI they don’t plan to keep hiring people.

Nick Saris
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Nick Saris
2 months ago
Reply to  Farce

Arresting speakers would in fact be destroying civil discussion. That speaker was probably referring to a major warehouse that was just burned down by a disgruntled employee less than a month ago.

Farce
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Farce
2 months ago
Reply to  Nick Saris

I wasn’t there. I did read the LoCo article where it sounded like she was threatening generally and encouraging this kind of arson. And if so then yes- she should be arrested…free speech does have limits

CsMisadventures
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CsMisadventures
2 months ago
Reply to  Farce

Free speech is not free from consequence, whether she’s arrested as an agitator or just publicly shamed or harassed online. Somebody is going to say something else to counter whatever it is they’re proselytizing.

Redwood Rumor Mill
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Redwood Rumor Mill
2 months ago
Reply to  Farce

I fully agree.
What a bunch of entitled lunatics—these anti-Amazon Humboldt hippies act like they’re defending some sacred paradise while arrogantly sabotaging jobs and convenience that actual working families, elderly, and disabled locals desperately need. Cushioned by trust funds, inheritances, or pensions that let them play activist all day with pitchforks and bonfires, they sneer at hard-working people just trying to survive and save money on essentials many can’t physically reach without reliable transportation. Their shout-down mobs, arson threats, and extremist disruption aren’t principled protest; they’re selfish, performative tantrums from hypocrites who enjoy luxury time most locals can’t afford, all while destroying civil discussion and harming the community they pretend to protect. They should be ashamed.

melanopsin
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2 months ago
Reply to  Farce

Reaction in kind only reinforces resolve. Lead by example by addressing concerns in a civil manner.

Farce
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Farce
2 months ago
Reply to  melanopsin

Awww…you’re probably correct but that’s not as exciting….okay you are correct, darn it

melanopsin
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2 months ago
Reply to  Farce

Bob Marley & The Wailers – Three Little Birds (Official Music Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNBCVM4KbUM

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
2 months ago

No discussion whatsoever about whether or not this facility will cause sales tax revenue from Amazon sales in Humboldt County to be diverted to some other County besides Humboldt County…???

That would seem like the most relevant question to have accurately answered…

Poking the bear,
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Poking the bear,
2 months ago
Reply to  The Real Guest

I disagree.JOBS is the part you guys are missing. Humboldt county has no jobs. Or competent Healthcare, or competent supervisors, or competent police. Yet the same people won’t say a word about Nancy Pelosi or Newsom and their 180 bill8on dollar fraud. Not even a railroad track in thirty years?

Bozo
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Bozo
2 months ago

Cost of ‘finishing’ the railroad has now increased.

Now at $231 billion dollars.
Started at $33 billion… now up to $231 billion. Increase of 7 (+-) times.

Quip is that the railroad will finally be run from North Bakersfield to South Bakersfield. Could be true !

Heh… wait till the cost on the deep water Windmills comes ‘true’.

Initial cost… $200 billion times say 7 or so. (That is a mid-range projection).

$1 Trillion ? $2 Trillion ? Add that to the $1.5 trillion future debt
(un-funded) of the future pension ‘payouts’.

Yee hah.

Ben Round
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Ben Round
2 months ago
Reply to  Bozo

Maybe. Maybe not. But since you are so concerned about financial waste, tell us about the ways you have protested this administration spending over 35 BILLION DOLLARS+ so far on an illegal (certainly not authorized by Congress) WAR??!

Rick
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Rick
2 months ago

Maybe if Humboldt’s economy grows, they will fill some potholes? Yeah right.. that’s funny. Just pay raises for supes, and all the little piggies at the trough.

Humboldt Love
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Humboldt Love
2 months ago

I love shopping locally and supporting our small businesses!! Everywhere I go, store clerks are so kind – I want my friends and neighbors to have jobs! I want Humboldt to thrive, and it will not if we don’t support our hardworking small business owners and staff.

old guy
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old guy
2 months ago
Reply to  Humboldt Love

And pay more for the same junk, why?

Bozo
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Bozo
2 months ago
Reply to  Humboldt Love

Sure.

Let’s choose from the ‘local array’ of 4 toilets.
Maybe 10 Light fixtures.
Puffer jackets maybe 1 or 2 ?
Shoes… maybe 10 pair ?

Ahuka 2400
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Ahuka 2400
2 months ago
Reply to  Humboldt Love

I also believe in shopping locally. WHEN I CAN.

Redwood Rumor Mill
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Redwood Rumor Mill
2 months ago
Reply to  Ahuka 2400

Local shops shop on Amazon then stock their shelves with items to be sold conveniently to locals without having to wait for online delivery. 80% of local shops are stocked from online shopping platforms like amazon

CsMisadventures
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CsMisadventures
2 months ago

Go to any minimart or corner store here and you can see plenty of “Kirkland” brand things like bottled water and other things being resold. If a local can get 100 of something on Amazon (Or Costco) and resells it, who is really hurting here? Not the 100 customers that popped in. The business and the municipality make money too. Last I checked we have one local water company, South Fork (which I buy because I know the source isn’t some trucked in tap water from Modesto, I do have some standards), and zero manufacturers of paper plates or TP. Heck we even lost a great glass company, Fire and Ice with no replacements.

Ben Round
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Ben Round
2 months ago

Where does your “80%” statistic come from? If its a guess, fine. But at least acknowledge that. Thanks.

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Ben Round
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Ben Round
2 months ago
Reply to  Ahuka 2400

“When I can”: What prevents you from shopping locally??? Sure, some selection. But if your reason is to save $5-10, then you are not thinking of the health of your community.

Redwood Rumor Mill
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Redwood Rumor Mill
2 months ago
Reply to  Humboldt Love

If you want locals to have jobs then support Amazon bringing 200 jobs to the local economy! Amazon won’t hurt small shops, 80% of small shops buy on Amazon and online and resale, common sense logic! 🤔

Ben Round
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Ben Round
2 months ago

Again. Please source your quoted statistic.

Ben Round
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Ben Round
2 months ago
Reply to  Humboldt Love

The BEST response here! Thank you for caring and bringing the issue home and to heart!

Think… it’s not illegal… yet
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Think… it’s not illegal… yet
2 months ago

Why do those older folks want to run away jobs that California Poly Humboldt graduates are going to need?

Ben Round
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Ben Round
2 months ago

You want Cal Poly graduates to work in an Amazon warehouse? Really??!!?

Big Rick
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Big Rick
2 months ago

We didn’t even get an option of a board meeting in Ukiah, they just built it.

Now there’s a facility on the north end of town and nobody really cares.

Mr. Clark
Member
2 months ago

Wow, looks like a no kings protest. I bet nobody in that room voted for Trump. LOL.

Look it up
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Look it up
2 months ago

Amazon heavily invested into AI they don’t plan to keep hiring people.

Big Rick
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Big Rick
2 months ago

One woman alleged that an Amazon worker at an Oregon fulfillment center “dropped dead” on the job and supervisors disregarded it and ordered co-workers to “continue their work around his body for a whole hour before paramedics arrived.”

That prompted a response from Amazon Economic Development Policy Manager Stephen Maduli-Williams, who said medical attention was given immediately and warned against “spreading misinformation.”

THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED AND THE INDIAN DEI HIRE MANAGER TOLD EVERYONE TO IGNORE THE CORPSE AND KEEP WORKING

https://www.newsnationnow.com/business/amazon-employees-forced-work-corpse/amp/

STEPHEN MADULI (ANOTHER DEI MANAGER) IS A LIAR AND A CHARLATAN

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Bozo
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Bozo
2 months ago

IMHO:

This is why Humboldt County is doomed.

Meeting was scheduled so that the ‘remaining’ working people couldn’t attend.

Should have asked… how many people here actually WORK ?
Should have asked… how many people here ARE ON SOCIAL SECURITY ?
Should have asked… how many people here DRAW WELFARE ?
Should have asked… how many people here ARE ON FOOD STAMPS ?
Should have asked… how many people here ARE ON MEDI-CAL ?

Go figure.

melanopsin
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Bozo

This:

Meeting was scheduled so that the ‘remaining’ working people couldn’t attend.”

perhaps scheduled by?:

“Planning Director John Ford” or Amazon didn’t want to pay their employees overtime — unclear if salaried Amazon employees get overtime pay.

Oh well, no matter who scheduled the meeting, there will be more meetings scheduled…suggest after “normal” working hours, maybe on a weekend, however possibly the meeting was scheduled exactly so mostly unemployed people who would be likely to work there would attend.

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Ahuka 2400
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Ahuka 2400
2 months ago
Reply to  Bozo

This reminds me of a popular myth surrounding orange cats – that all orange cats share a single brain cell that randomly jumps from skull to skull

Gene Godinho
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Gene Godinho
2 months ago

30% of FedEx stations are going to be closed in the next 19 months nationwide and the USPS is going to be working less days per week. I think Amazon is being proactive because of these actions.

Mr. Clark
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Gene Godinho

Amazon is causing these actions. Do you agree?

melanopsin
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

Amazon is the largest river drainage system in the world. Jeff’s vision is to emulate it.

melanopsin
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  melanopsin

i.e. with distribution/delivery of goods & services instead of water 🙂

melanopsin
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2 months ago

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Eyeball Kid
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2 months ago
Reply to  melanopsin

Looks like a stand-up product.

I am a robot
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I am a robot
2 months ago

The richest man in the world thinks he can buy Humboldt. Why doesn’t hedo something good like fund a hospital that serves the women who live here, or invest a couple of billion dollars in our roads? And John Ford is tone deaf and insulting:

“You know, I get letters with all sorts of expletives and I’ve been flipped off before but I expected more from McKinleyville, frankly,” he said at one point.

HellooNewman
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HellooNewman
2 months ago

Anti-corporation trendiness allows folks to think they are the “good people” for expressing vile hatred and threats towards their targets that they’d never tolerate being directed at the things they like.

While its wise to scrutinize corporate deals, the blind hatred towards private investment in Humboldt County that has lost so much already isn’t productive to say the least.

Big Government “economic development” programs trying to boost the area with “recreational tourism” to replace actual good paying private sector working class jobs (wrecked by the same governments regulatory restrictions to please a loud, but well connected minority) has failed miserably. Its time for the economic Luddites to get out of the way.

FB NATIVE
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FB NATIVE
2 months ago

How dare you bring jobs to our town! How can we b…. and moan if you take away our jobless existence. What a bunch of crybabies!

MadMac
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MadMac
2 months ago

Impact I worry about – is on the other small businesses in the region, both good and bad. Its the same issue as having Walmart driving out many small businesses in small & mid size towns across America.

There IS another example in CA – Santa Cruz. Geographically isolated from the rest of the Bay Area by SR17 – it has no big box stores but for a Whole Foods and a Home Depot.

I’m watching many local store and service fronts follow the failure of the Local Cannabis industry, mostly manifest as the unavailablity of goods for local purchase. That macro level problem is hurting the region’s ability to compete, even locally.

Despite our collective want not to have big box stores – I think having this piece of logistics infrastructure in place – is going to be required. Or we will all continue moving backwards in time, wanted or not, just like Santa Cruz.

Mr. Clark
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  MadMac

When Amazon delivers weed, old town will be done.

CsMisadventures
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CsMisadventures
2 months ago
Reply to  MadMac

A few things Santa Cruz has that Humboldt doesn’t: A permanent beach amusement park and pier to shop on, a functioning railroad (The Roaring Rapids tourist line just started this month I believe, more conducive weather to being outside, and you’re 45 minutes from Silicon Valley residents that have obscene amounts of money to spend. It’s also where one of our former PD chiefs (Andy Mills) left here for.

As far as big box, just go across the river to Capitola. You’ll find plenty of places. I can assure you, having visited there recently, Walmarts, Targets and what not are not running out the locals. They adjusted. Santa Cruz built itself as a destination spot. Or just a spot to sunset surf when you get off work from your job with Google or Apple. Humboldt Bay is nothing of that caliber.

But hey, I’m all about preserving local charm and smart-building, but also don’t run out everything that can actually bring jobs TO here, and KEEP them here, so that we can shop locally THERE. We need constant IVs of money around here just to pay for basics. That doesn’t leave much for those trying to stay in biz if nobody has any to spend.

Skinny
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Skinny
2 months ago

So if they put the warehouse in will all the female employees be required to get blown up duck face lips like Bezoa wife?

Nick Saris
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Nick Saris
2 months ago

If we’re concerned about Amazon’s behavior we (the county) should build a publicly-owned warehouse and lease it to Amazon for their use. Then we can define the terms of the lease to require good treatment of workers with decent pay. And we’ll make a lot more money for the public in the process.

melanopsin
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2 months ago
Reply to  Nick Saris

You mean like building a shell(s)? I think Amazon wants a business park where they can construct/tear down as needed.

Perhaps County could lease the land. Who owns the land BTW, i.e. is Amazon going to buy and pay land taxes?

Redwood Rumor Mill
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Redwood Rumor Mill
2 months ago

Amazon pays more than trim jobs!
The new Amazon warehouse they’re planning out at the Airport Business Park in McKinleyville could be a real game-changer for folks around here. A lot of us locals, especially families trying to make ends meet, depend on Amazon to get decent prices on stuff that costs way more at the corner stores or those overpriced gas station markets. You know how it is—milk, diapers, tools, whatever—you’re paying through the nose if you can’t drive all the way to Eureka or Fortuna. And it’s not just regular folks; plenty of our small shop owners and resellers around Humboldt rely on Amazon themselves to stock their shelves with things they couldn’t get otherwise without going broke on shipping or markups. On top of that, this project means good-paying jobs—decent wages with benefits—in a county that’s been hurting for steady work ever since the mills and the grows dried up.

Those folks who hate on every big corporation like it’s some kind of evil don’t seem to get it. That kind of knee-jerk attitude is flat-out un-American and anti-capitalist. This is still America, where businesses that invest here, create jobs, and give people choices ought to be welcomed, not run out of town with pitchforks. Turning our backs on real economic opportunity just to stay “pure” against big business only hurts the working people and small operators who actually live here.

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local observer
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local observer
2 months ago

they plan to pay $17 to $23 an hour. the job openings are already listed. The forklift operator is the $23/hr. they will likely work the system and only give you 31 hours per week to limit the benefits. its not 200 jobs.

CsMisadventures
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CsMisadventures
2 months ago
Reply to  local observer

You can work at Walmart for 30 cents above minimum for 20 hours. And deal with pissed off customers of Humboldt. Even if it’s not 200 jobs, 100 is better than 0. Also, there’s a lot of side jobs and hustles that pop up anywhere there’s a regular crowd of people. Food trucks in particular. Or short term lodging. Equipment rentals. Baggage handlers. Uber drivers, baby sitters for moms that work on the handling lines. They exist too.

Geoff
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Geoff
2 months ago

Bezos used to seem like one of the less evil of the Cyber Bro crowd. Now he’s degenerating into payoffs to Dirty Don. A resurrection of “The Apprentice” with dweeby Junior running it? Really? After the “Melanomia” fiasco, you’d think he’d be wise to downplay the servility.

Joan Richards
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Joan Richards
2 months ago

Do a bit of research into why Amazon prices may be lower than other sources. The reasons are generally tied to unfair business practices, automated warehousing practices, less than generous employee compensation. Is this the business model you want to support in your community?

CsMisadventures
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CsMisadventures
2 months ago
Reply to  Joan Richards

If you want to go that deep and base your purchasing decisions on who you like and don’t, I can redirect you to some locals with quite public histories you might find unpleasant, yet still shop at their stores or even associate with. Or not. You want to go after the elephant because it’s a bigger trophy for your wall, but ignore the fox or coyote in the background doing all the same things, but that’s your prey.

justsayin
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justsayin
2 months ago

Same ol bunch, same ol whining. Bunch of old burnouts who came here from somewhere else and want to save us poor dumb hillbillies from ourselves. Everyone of them has a secure income from a retirement or some other handout. As one commenter pointed out, “Why build a business park if you’re not going to allow business in?”

StoptheplanetIwantoff
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2 months ago

The usual suspects, what you couldn’t find a No Kings protest to go to?

Reality Check
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Reality Check
2 months ago

“…I expected more from McKinleyville, frankly.”

I’m not surprised at all. I’m guessing Amazon wants this location due to its proximity to the airport. My guess is their best option to receive the least criticism would be in Fortuna or the surrounding area. But even then…

CsMisadventures
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CsMisadventures
2 months ago
Reply to  Reality Check

Lots of undeveloped space at Rohnerville, but the runway is shorter. They’re more open to it being there if various social media comments are to be believed.

Anon
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Anon
2 months ago
Reply to  Reality Check

I’d love to know how many ppl from Mckinleyville were there. Not alot I’ll bet. Why don’t you ask next time, Mr. Ford? The ppl screaming at you are the same well off, virtue signaling, angry, ppl who dont care that Humboldt county is dying, and more rapidly than ever. This isnt just about Amazon. This is about any growth, any chance, we have of economic development. And recreational tourism? Lol. I saw some cruise ship tourists last yr. looking super uncomfortable wandering the streets in Eureka . I’ll bet navigating vomit, pee, ppl shooting up drug addicts, ppl approaching them for money, wasnt in the tour guide info.

Humboldt
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Humboldt
2 months ago

You can’t fight city hall…says the old expression.
Nor progress.

The objections are obvious, especially considering the venue, northern California. Opposition to big business, the reputation of the billionaire owner, the stories of people peeing in a bottle.

But none of these seem legitimate. They are cultural disagreements. Not practical or environmental.

Two practical things – and I hope their investigatory team reads rhbb and these comments:

One is the mention of benefits. What does that mean? Health insurance fully paid for by Amazon? Disability insurance? Retirement? And not just an employer funded 401(k), but a Defined Benefit Plan, fully funded by Amazon? Paid vacation, sick and parental leave?

Secondly, the location seems ideal. Amazon should be contracted to purchase several electric busses that can run frequently between the various towns bringing employees to and from work and that run 24 hours a day. The busses should be given to the county bus system with funding for drivers, charging and repairs.

The county bus already goes from the Arcata transit center to the airport. However, one must first go to the Arcata transit center and then transfer. That would be very time consuming. And expensive.

FREE transit, from Willow Creek to Garberville should be provided with busses running no less than every half hour and coordinated with shifts at the site. This will enhance the environment, reduce petrol use, and greatly reduce the need for parking.

The reality is that people rely heavily on Amazon. Especially in the most rural parts of the county. This facility WOULD NOT EVEN BE BEING CONSIDERED IF THERE WAS NOT A CONSUMER NEED AND DEMAND.

Additionally, and most vital, it must be contractually agreed that this will be a CLOSED SHOP, MEANING THAT PARTICIPATION AND MEMBERSHIP IN THE UNION IS MANDATORY. Since the county is involved in this approval, the County should be the arbiter in any labor disputes with Amazon relinquishing any right to dispute the final say of the county and union.

I wonder what UPS and the US Postal Service have to say about losing all this delivery business?

Kym, it would be interesting to interview their regional management in San Francisco for feedback on how these delivery services will be impacted and how they feel about this.

Most importantly: Those of us who live in areas WITHOUT US Postal home delivery must get our mail by going to the post office. It is secure there. Will Amazon contract with USPS to allow them to deliver to the post office as UPS does now???

That need is paramount.

justsayin
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2 months ago
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Closed shop? You think the government should mandate employees be forced into paying union dues to pointless unions who are nothing more than political tools? Good grief, there hasn’t been a Union in the past 4 decades that served anyone or anything but itself and it’s parasitic leadership. Whether the employees want to be union and what their benefits and pay are is between the company and the employee, not some over controlling government agency or a bunch of busy body protestors.

CsMisadventures
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CsMisadventures
2 months ago
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If anything, CVS is a pickup/dropoff point for Amazon and UPS, and Kohls is an authorized return center. Saves even more time on your end if someone just goes and delivers it to the airport on your behalf and have it on the way today, not next week. USPS takes an additional day sometimes two, if it stops at Medford first, then to Oakland, then back up to here instead of over 199 to here, or puddle jumpers like FedEx uses daily at the Eureka muni airport. Technically, everyone could centralize out of ACV as other airports do (heck, FedEx and UPS have entire airports in Nashville and Greensboro, NC just for their exclusive use).

You don’t have to be the big metropolis to model some of your logistics and efficiencies around how they handle freight. It’s really a lot to do with speed and saving fuel from A to B.

melanopsin
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2 months ago

“You don’t have to be the big metropolis to model some of your logistics and [product handling and other] efficiencies around how they handle freight. It’s really a lot to do with speed and saving fuel from A to B.” emphasis and edit are mine

Amazon’s forte is logistics — getting products and services from manufacturers to consumers using most efficient methods. Jeff took the Book Distribution model and extended and improved to cover all goods and services.

The analogy of Amazon River Drainage water flow is quite accurate.

Anybody seen the new electric semis? $290k fo the 500-mile model…

https://electrek.co/2026/04/29/tesla-semi-first-truck-high-volume-production-line/

And the new electric air taxi service for avoiding NY traffic to airports?

https://www.electrive.com/2026/04/29/joby-demonstrates-its-air-taxi-in-new-york-city/

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Kicking Bull
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Kicking Bull
2 months ago

Self-doubt/ loathing, demanding others think the same
deep seething rage, ready to save the day
free-floating anxiety, screaming something about certainty

comments, crowd, same consciousness
the emperor ego wears no clothes

Bill
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Bill
2 months ago

So sad, what a pathetic immature display by the left wackos and environmentalists. So embarrassing.
These folks clearly do not want anything to change up here, most have no kids worried for their future or have solid bank accounts already.
Literally everything significant business wise has been chased out of this County! WTF people!

You built a fricking Business Park…. but you don’t want to fill it and get businesses to Invest locally!

California liberals are a f”’&$ked up bunch!

Enzo
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Enzo
2 months ago

I remember when Costco went in and people were screaming The sky is falling. Then I remember the first Walmart proposal and people were screaming Keep cheap Chinese stuff out of Humboldt. Then the same people screamed when the Chinese connection for cheap stuff went on, hold demanding more cheap Chinese stuff and no interruptions of our cheap Chinese stuff. I do not shop on Amazon and never have with probably one or two exceptions. I go directly to every small business I can in Humboldt County. When I cannot get it here, I will try to go directly to the business rather than fund Amazon and Jeff Bezos. But with that being said there is overwhelming need for goods that are offered on Amazon and they are being used by people here in Humboldt County. Now there is a great big business park that needs a business in it to fill a need. So with all due respect to the screamers just calm down and let the warehouse serve a legitimate need.

Cati
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Cati
2 months ago

The worker who died at the Troutdale, OR fulfillment center on mid-April did not receive “medical attention” promptly as described by Mr. Mazuli-Williams, at least according to the information reported locally. According to The Western Edge, he appeared to be already dead at the time of the ambulance call at 1:55 p.m., and employee time cards reviewed showed “some employees closest to the incident did not clock out until after 3 p.m.”

https://www.thewesternedge.media/p/everyone-is-replaceable-death-rattles

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
2 months ago

https://www.sfgate.com/northcoast/article/ca-amazon-facility-backlash-22245001.php

‘New Amazon facility sparks heavy backlash in small California town’

“During the meeting, Stephen Maduli-Williams, Amazon’s senior manager of economic development policy, described the project as a “last-mile delivery station” that would take in sorted packages from Sacramento Amazon facilities and deliver them in the area.”

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
2 months ago
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Continued…

“In California do amazon last mile delivery stations or do warehouses predicate sales tax revenue to the county in which they are located?”

“In California, Amazon fulfillment centers (warehouses) typically generate local sales tax revenue for the city/county where they are located, not necessarily where the buyer lives, because they are often classified as the point of sale.

Conversely, last-mile delivery stations and sort centers generally do not generate this local sales tax revenue.

Fulfillment Centers (Warehouses):

Under California’s Bradley-Burns tax law, the 1% local portion of sales tax often goes to the jurisdiction housing the warehouse (e.g., Tracy, Patterson, Oxnard).

Last-Mile Delivery Stations:

These are considered logistics/sorting locations, not the “point of sale,” and thus do not receive the same tax allocation.

Tax Allocation Rule:

California rules often tie the local tax share to where the seller or shipment originates (the fulfillment center) rather than the destination.

Impact:

This structure causes a concentration of sales tax revenue in cities with large Amazon warehouses, often at the expense of the jurisdiction where the customer lives.”
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And there you have it…

This facility will decrease sales tax revenue for Humboldt County, not increase it, like Steve Madrone previously errantly claimed…